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whois |
hi all |
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whois |
please help me! |
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mtj |
whois: ok! |
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mtj |
twitter's bookstrap = Koha's next gui framework? :) |
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mtj |
-> http://twitter.github.com/bootstrap/index.html |
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mtj |
and a bunch of additional bootstrap themes, too -> http://bootswatch.com/ |
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cait |
I think oleonard was talking abou tbootstrap to replace yui grid |
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mtj |
owen is a wise man! :) |
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mtj |
its easily the best thing for the job, atm |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
morning matts |
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matts |
hi cait ! |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
morning mbalmer |
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mbalmer |
morning cait, koha |
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cait |
morning francharb |
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cait |
:) |
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francharb |
morning cait |
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francharb |
morning #koha |
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marcelr |
hi koha |
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cait |
morning marcelr :) |
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marcelr |
:-) |
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mbalmer |
is the koha interface to the indexer(s) documented? i.e. how Zebra or Solr is plugged into Koha? |
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cait |
I think there is a page about solr on the wiki |
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cait |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ene_Documentation |
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cait |
and there is a bug now with a poc for solr |
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cait |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]witch_to_Solr_RFC |
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mbalmer |
replacing a zebra with a monster … ;P |
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cait |
I think the goal is to let you choose your monster :) |
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mbalmer |
but the interface seems to be well-defined at first sight |
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magnuse |
nope, not replacing zebra |
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mbalmer |
yes, that makes sense. |
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cait |
mbalmer: you might want to look up the bug, rangi signed off on it and it maybe pushed soon (I hope it will) |
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mbalmer |
well, with a well defined interface from Koha to *A* search engine, it should be well possible to change or add indexers |
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magnuse |
bug8233 |
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magnuse |
bug 8233 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8233 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , New search engine layer - introduce solr without breaking anything else |
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cait |
magnuse: ts, now you were just a second faster than me :) |
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mbalmer |
cait, I don't want to run Solr yet |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
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cait |
mbalmer: not talking about using it, but you can study the nterface |
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mbalmer |
yes. |
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cait |
I only wanted to point out, that there is already an implementation to look at |
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mbalmer |
I put me on the CC list of that bug, thanks for pointing me at it |
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cait |
ok |
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cait |
work time |
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cait |
bbl |
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magnuse |
guess bug 5360 could/should be marked as a duplicate of 8233? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5360 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, NEW , From Zebra to solR |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
maybe not up to date any longer |
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cait |
because we decided not to switch, but have multiple options |
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mbalmer |
magnuse, it's indeed somewhat superseeeded by 8233 |
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mbalmer |
me and some others hope that there will be a third choice, but we are still waiting for the proof of concept. |
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magnuse |
what would the third choice be? |
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mbalmer |
well, if it works, a less ressource hungry indexer that does not need java and indexes automatically |
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mbalmer |
but as I said, I don't know if it will work. |
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magnuse |
ah, got a concrete indexer in mind? |
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mbalmer |
using an SQL database with support functions for bibliographic data. |
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magnuse |
ah, got it |
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mbalmer |
but no one knows yet a) if it works, and b) if it is fast, and c) if it is flexible enough |
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magnuse |
we live in interesting times ;-) |
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mbalmer |
say no more, say no more, .... |
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reiveune |
hello |
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mbalmer |
bonjour reiveune! |
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reiveune |
salut marc :) |
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julian_m |
hello |
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gaetan_B |
hello ! |
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sophie_m |
hi #koha |
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clrh |
hello |
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mtj |
hiya clrh |
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mtj |
mbalmer: the big advantage with solr over... well everything really... is it's many CJK packages |
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paul_p |
good morning #koha |
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mtj |
... and i would be extremely happy to be proved incorrect, too |
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mtj |
bonjour biblibrians |
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mbalmer |
CJK packages? |
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mtj |
go on... google it ;) |
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mbalmer |
ah, chinese and so on. |
07:28 |
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mbalmer |
in german it also means creautzdel-jakob disease... |
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mbalmer |
gotta run, bbl... |
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mtj |
looks like postgres has some cjk support with tsearch2 |
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mtj |
thats some good news! |
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* marcelr |
looking at Can't locate Text/Unaccent.pm in @INC |
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* marcelr |
and Can't load '/usr/local/lib64/perl5/auto/Text/Unaccent/Unaccent.so' for module Text::Unaccent: /usr/local/lib64/perl5/auto/Text/Unaccent/Unaccent.so: failed to map segment from shared object |
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hdl |
I would rather use Text::Undiacritic. |
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hdl |
But that's me. |
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marcelr |
yes, someone else thought differently ;) |
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hdl |
marcelr: apt-get install libtext-unaccent-perl ? |
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marcelr |
it was a selinux error; wrong label on library file |
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marcelr |
thx |
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whois |
hi all |
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whois |
please help me? |
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whois |
Sorry, none of these items can be placed on hold. |
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whois |
while the book was available for loan |
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eythian |
whois: that probably means you don't have the correct holds rules |
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eythian |
often it's things like not having set a maximum number, so it defaults to 0 in the circulation rules. |
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whois |
to eythian: you can login and test: tinphu.no-ip.info |
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eythian |
hello wahanui |
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wahanui |
hola, eythian |
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eythian |
whois: I can't right now, I have a big pile of work to catch up on. However, I'd suggest reviewing your circulation rules relating to holds, that's what the problem is 99% of the time. |
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drojf |
good day #koha |
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kf |
hi #koha |
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drojf |
hi kf :) |
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kf |
hi drojf :) |
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kf |
hi mveron :) |
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marcelr |
hi drojf kf |
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drojf |
hi mveron |
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kf |
hi marcelr :) |
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marcelr |
hi mveron |
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drojf |
wow a wave of german speakers |
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mveron |
hi kf and drojf and marcelr |
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drojf |
hi marcelr |
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marcelr |
german or dutch |
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drojf |
yeah |
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kf |
:) |
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kf |
nice! |
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kf |
oh...only 1123 mails without mailing lists in my inbox |
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mveron |
Wat leuk :-) |
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drojf1 |
hm |
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drojf1 |
network fun again |
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drojf1 |
ah just got a new ip |
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whois |
please guide me how to configure for a book in circulation and can place hold? |
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drojf1 |
whois: have you looked at the documentation? |
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whois |
I am a Vietnam |
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whois |
document the flow of koha 3.8.0 I do not understand |
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whois |
hope you help me with the most concise way |
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whois |
one can not fail, helps me with |
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kf |
whois: I think easiest is starting on the administration page, work down from top to bottom |
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kf |
and check the help pages for the sides, there is a ? in the top corner |
09:07 |
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kf |
also manual? |
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kf |
documentation? |
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wahanui |
documentation is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/ |
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whois |
You can visit my administration: tinphu.no-ip.info: 8080 |
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kf |
whois: sorry, but your eally have to start with some of the documentation |
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kf |
we can't guide you step by step to all configuration |
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drojf |
is there a support company that covers vietnam? |
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drojf |
from the 2% translation i would say no |
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kf |
someone recently started translation |
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kf |
there were mails to the mailing list |
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whois |
the OPAC we translate all, here you see: tinphu.no-ip.info |
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kf |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 24.0°C (12:00 PM CEST on June 18, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Rising). |
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eythian |
@wunder brighton |
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huginn |
eythian: Error: No such location could be found. |
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eythian |
@wunder brighton, uk |
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huginn |
eythian: The current temperature in Brighton, Brighton, United Kingdom is 14.3°C (11:00 AM BST on June 18, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
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eythian |
that's not summer! |
10:15 |
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kf |
heh |
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kf |
it's warm here :) |
10:15 |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 11.0°C (11:50 AM CEST on June 18, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). |
10:15 |
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kf |
and sunny, you are just in the wrong place! |
10:16 |
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kf |
eythian: how is work in brighton? ) |
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* magnuse |
imagines eythian scooting around europe, searching for summer |
10:17 |
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kf |
heh |
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kf |
and now he is not talking to us... ts. |
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lamiette |
hey, Brighton does get sunny and awesome! we've had summer #1 (back in May) and we'll have summer #2 in aug/sept :) |
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kf |
hi lamiette :) |
10:18 |
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eythian |
kf: it's pretty good |
10:18 |
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eythian |
magnuse: that's my plan ;) |
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lamiette |
hi kf |
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magnuse |
eythian: yay! |
10:23 |
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magnuse |
eythian: sis you see this? http://act.yapc.eu/mtmh2012/index.html |
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magnuse |
s/sis/did/ |
10:23 |
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eythian |
magnuse: I did. |
10:24 |
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eythian |
However, the timing is a little bad for me |
10:25 |
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eythian |
http://act.yapc.eu/ye2012/ <-- magnuse, I am hoping to make this though |
10:29 |
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magnuse |
cool |
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drojf |
@wunder berlin, germany |
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huginn |
drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 26.6°C (12:13 PM CEST on June 18, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
10:31 |
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magnuse |
there's your summer, eythian |
10:31 |
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drojf |
so i did not miss this year's week of summer :) |
10:31 |
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eythian |
magnuse: konstanz also looked pretty good, and I'll be going there. |
10:31 |
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eythian |
@wunder marseille |
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huginn |
eythian: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 28.0°C (12:00 PM CEST on June 18, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 28%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
10:31 |
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eythian |
also going there... |
10:31 |
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drojf |
when? :P |
10:31 |
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eythian |
over the course of the next two months |
10:32 |
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drojf |
if summer will last that long… |
10:32 |
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eythian |
hush |
10:32 |
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mtj |
eythian: is there anywhere you *aren't* going in the next 2 months? :p |
10:33 |
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eythian |
not if I can help it :) |
10:34 |
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magnuse |
hehe |
10:34 |
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mtj |
i miss eythian already... :( |
10:34 |
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eythian |
Is hashigo feeling a bit too empty? |
10:36 |
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mtj |
yes, it's nothing without your smiley little face :) |
10:36 |
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eythian |
how creepy :) |
10:38 |
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mtj |
heh, yeah - that was a bit creepy :p |
10:47 |
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kf |
lol |
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Oak |
Ahoy me hearties |
10:48 |
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kf |
hi Oak |
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Oak |
hello kf :) |
10:51 |
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Oak |
kf, does your employer make koha brochures for clients? I need to see some Koha brochures... |
10:51 |
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kf |
we do,... but they are german :) |
10:52 |
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Oak |
that's okay. link please? |
10:52 |
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Oak |
or email... |
10:59 |
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Oak |
i meant german is fine, i'd like to see them. kf, |
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kf |
maybe check some of the english speaking companies too? |
11:01 |
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Oak |
sure... will do. what does [off] mean? |
11:02 |
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Oak |
off topic? |
11:03 |
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kf |
not in the logs :) |
11:03 |
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Oak |
ah |
11:03 |
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kf |
hiding from google |
11:04 |
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Oak |
um, but why? |
11:04 |
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wahanui |
but why are you even looking at backports? |
11:05 |
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Oak |
never mind. will annoy later. |
11:16 |
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* eythian |
notes that when going through the web installer, there are two parts that claim to give you some Z39.50 servers. |
11:17 |
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kf |
wrong description maybe? |
11:17 |
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kf |
the description for the sample libraries is wrong too |
11:17 |
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kf |
there is something mentioned aobut hardcoded library types or something |
11:18 |
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eythian |
yeah |
11:18 |
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eythian |
I didn't know what that was talking about |
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* kf |
volunteers eythian to write a patch :P |
11:18 |
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kf |
hi Viktor! :) |
11:18 |
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* kf |
= Katrin |
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Viktor |
Hi Katrin! Nice to see you |
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kf |
ah, phew, for a second I wondered if I you are the Viktor from Sweden :) |
11:19 |
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Viktor |
I said I´d try to get a little more involved on the IRC :) |
11:19 |
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kf |
and so you do, glad to see you here :) |
11:19 |
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Viktor |
:) |
11:19 |
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Viktor |
Anything new? Did you get well for the hackfest? |
11:20 |
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kf |
ah, it was ok, the first day was not so good, after that mostly ok |
11:20 |
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Viktor |
Nice to hear you did'nt miss the whole thing at least. |
11:21 |
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eythian |
kf: I'll add it to my queue of Things to Do |
11:21 |
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kf |
eythian: that sounds not very promising... if your list is like mine :) |
11:21 |
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kf |
brb |
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eythian |
I think it may be |
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Viktor |
By the way - is there any other place to look for documentation of the circulation rules than the manual? |
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Viktor |
I'm trying to set up some rules that's not the standard "5 bucks / week and item" |
11:24 |
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Viktor |
(it´s the fees I´m having problems with) |
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Viktor |
Welcome Guest365 |
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eythian |
Viktor: you'll have to say what you're trying to do, some things can be done, others can't. |
11:26 |
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Viktor |
Ok - here goes: there's two main set of rules. One set of fine rules for free media and one for paid media. |
11:27 |
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Viktor |
Free media: After a week I want to charge 50 SEK regardless of how many items are late. |
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eythian |
I don't think you can do that kind of thing |
11:27 |
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eythian |
at least, without making a patch ;) |
11:27 |
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Viktor |
But if there are holds on the media (still the free ones) I want to charge from day one they are overdue. |
11:28 |
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Viktor |
Shame, but that is sort of what I started to think myself. |
11:28 |
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Viktor |
Or that I´m just missing obvious things again :) |
11:29 |
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eythian |
I think there's a billion different combinations that people _could_ have for fines, however most people just want the fairly simple defaults. |
11:29 |
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eythian |
It'd require quite an overhaul to allow the more complex stuff. |
11:29 |
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Viktor |
So I might have to look into how much trouble a patch wold be I guess :) |
11:29 |
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eythian |
I think writing something general would be quite hard, but I'd still encourage you to try. |
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eythian |
There may also be a few simple things you can add that'll do what you need. |
11:30 |
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Viktor |
I´d love to learn some Perl - and my goal is to get at least one line of code into Koha this year :) |
11:31 |
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eythian |
good goal :) |
11:31 |
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Viktor |
But I´ll think I´ll have to get some money together to buy the development from my vendor. |
11:31 |
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Viktor |
Yes :) |
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Viktor |
I´ve mostly played with Python lately, but Perl should be doable I guess. But it´s a lot of learning with the whole infrastructure around Koha like server administration. |
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eythian |
yeah, there are a lot of moving parts |
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kf |
back :) |
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kf |
ah fines |
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kf |
libsysguy is working on a rewrite, but I am not sure how far h eis |
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kf |
I think there is a script to do static fines in master now |
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kf |
that might work for the rule you want independent on the number of items |
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kf |
perhaps check bugzilla - I think it was "static fine" or something similar |
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Viktor |
Thanks kf! |
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kf |
but I think there is nothign yet to distinguish between items that are overdue with/without holds |
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kf |
espresso time bbiab |
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Viktor |
Ok, but still I´d guess it´s a lot easier to add that then to write the whole stuff yourself :) |
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kf |
I think maybe talk to libsysguy |
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kf |
heis starting to work on that, so if there is an additional requirement he might be interested |
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matts |
http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6858 |
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huginn |
Bug 6858: normal, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Pushed to Stable , Adds staticfines.pl for static fines processing |
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kf |
there is also something on the wiki about a notice rewrite |
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Viktor |
Looks very promising! |
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Viktor |
Yes - I think it´ll take us close to what we want to do. |
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Viktor |
Thanks again! |
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Viktor |
Which proves (again) that the community is a huge part of Koha :) |
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* jcamins |
supposes that his solution to bug 8264 probably won't make most IE users happy. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8264 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , local cover images not working in IE8 |
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neo_ |
is any document regarding running koha web over https ? |
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Viktor |
Sorry but I don´t have any experience with that. But there are lot´s of people who do know Koha really well here so I hope someone knows. |
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jcamins |
neo_: as far as I know, it's just a matter of turning on HTTPS in your VirtualHost. |
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juan_sieira |
neo_ |
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juan_sieira |
you can see a example here, it's only a virtualhost over 443: http://fer2401.net84.net/ssl |
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neo_ |
so there won't be other issues, right ? |
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neo_ |
yes |
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juan_sieira |
you have to generate your pem files and thats it, similar to other projects |
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neo_ |
yep, thank you juan_sieira and jcamins |
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nengard |
jcamins what is the solution to bug 8264 ? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8264 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , local cover images not working in IE8 |
12:08 |
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nengard |
as much as I hate IE - don't we make an effort to make the OPAC work in as many browsers as possible? |
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jcamins |
nengard: "do without, or pay me to care." |
12:10 |
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nengard |
well that's okay :) |
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nengard |
as long as it's not - we won't fix it :) |
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jcamins |
nengard: nah, I'd be happy to fix it, but local cover images was not something that I was paid to do. |
12:11 |
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nengard |
got it |
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drojf |
nengard: i would not consider IE a browser :P |
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nengard |
I'm with you!! |
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jcamins |
If I knew how to do it off the top of my head, I'd tell you, and you could go fix it. |
12:11 |
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nengard |
but I can't convince paying customers of that |
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drojf |
make them pay more to make it work in IE ;) |
12:12 |
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nengard |
well, it is the OPAC - we make them all use FF for the staff client, but we have no control over their patrons |
12:13 |
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drojf |
ok that's a point |
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drojf |
damn patrons, always a hassle :D |
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nengard |
webinar time ? be back later |
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* jcamins |
still charges more. |
12:14 |
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jcamins |
drojf: to be perfectly honest, I don't mind those clients so much... I would like Koha to work perfectly on IE. |
12:16 |
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drojf |
jcamins: yes it should be browser agnostic and just work for everyone, in theory |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
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drojf |
hi oleonard |
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kylemhall |
I have a couple patches for bug 8110 that need signed-off. It's a blocker level bug. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8110 blocker, P1 - high, ---, savitra.sirohi, Needs Signoff , Fines accruing on closed days |
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wizzyrea |
kylemhall: I may get to that today |
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kylemhall |
wizzyrea: excellent! |
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eythian |
http://www.kogan.com/au/blog/n[…]t-explorer-7-tax/ <-- jcamins |
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jcamins |
Heh. |
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jcamins |
That's the way to do it. |
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oleonard |
I was curious about Bug 8264, but find I can't test it because I can't upload a local cover image |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8264 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , local cover images not working in IE8 |
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marcelr |
Bug 8263 to get the number of sysprefs one down :-) |
12:51 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8263 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Make OPAC stylesheet preferences more consistent |
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jcamins |
oleonard: why can't you upload a local cover image? |
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oleonard |
jcamins: Uh oh, looks like that's an IE problem too. |
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oleonard |
After clicking "upload file" IE reloads the page but doesn't show the option to say whether it's a single image, etc. |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
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jcamins |
oleonard: I suggest uploading with a web browser, then testing the OPAC with IE. |
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drojf |
lol |
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jcamins |
drojf: what? Like the way I smoothly suggested a web browser for uploading? :) |
12:58 |
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drojf |
i do :) |
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oleonard |
FWIW, IE9 looks the same as FF, but not quite right: The local cover image with the "no cover image" box below it. |
12:59 |
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oleonard |
nengard's screenshot looks like a javascript problem, but I don't have IE8 to test with |
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jcamins |
oleonard: I would be willing to bet that IE8 has issues with Google Books covers too, since the local cover image Javascript is shamelessly copy-and-pasted. |
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magnuse |
Oak |
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Oak |
magnuse |
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Oak |
:) |
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magnuse |
yay! |
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schuster |
Are the ISBN 10 - 13 searches working in 3. 6.5? for some reason it is only bringing up exact and not checking for both. |
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jcamins |
schuster: I didn't think there was any implementation of the proposed ISBN 10/13 conversion. |
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jcamins |
I can tell you that won't be going into 3.6.x if it is implemented, though. |
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jcamins |
Too much chance of it breaking things. |
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schuster |
Can you tell if this is a required module? Business::ISBN ? it shows when I look at PERL Dependencies, but I am not seeing that on my current install. |
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jcamins |
Yes it is. |
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schuster |
So what do people "match" on when loading MARC records? |
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eythian |
if you wanted to show title and subtitle in overdue notices, how would you go about it? |
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jcamins |
schuster: lots of places use ISBN. |
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eythian |
I'm thinking of hacking a 'biblio.fulltitle' into the notices template |
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schuster |
But if they don't match exactly it doesn't match - 10 /13 problem. |
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eythian |
because there's no db field for subtitle, and no way to express logic to make it look good even if there were. |
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jcamins |
schuster: that is correct. If you are using OCLC, I prefer OCLC number. |
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jcamins |
But I am in a very small minority. |
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* drojf |
just had a loading time of ~11 seconds for the opac page on the raspberry pi with plack |
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drojf |
i see tiny libraries coming |
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eythian |
libraries for mice! |
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schuster |
We do not use OCLC. I thought this was working in an earlier version - Way back in 3.0 we had done development on this and I thought it had made it to general community code... |
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drojf |
eythian: with tiny books on cheese |
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jcamins |
schuster: the feature was not in 3.2. |
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jcamins |
(but could conceivably have been included in 3.0 but not master, I suppose) |
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oleonard |
schuster: Was there a bug in Bugzilla for it? |
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oleonard |
Hm, okay looks like this power outage is going to outlast my UPS. |
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oleonard |
Back later I hope. |
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tcohen |
mornin' #koha |
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Viktor |
Morning :) |
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magnuse |
hiya tcohen and Viktor |
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Viktor |
(or good evening as I´d call it where i am) |
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Viktor |
:) |
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tcohen |
where Viktor? :-D |
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Viktor |
Sweden. |
13:42 |
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Viktor |
You? |
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wahanui |
You are our ladybug cait or free to add the features you need.. just saying.. |
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jcamins |
wahanui: forget you |
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wahanui |
jcamins: I forgot you |
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jcamins |
You? |
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tcohen |
Cordoba, Argentina |
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Viktor |
Hi magnuse |
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drojf |
Viktor: <4pm is evening already in sweden? |
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Viktor |
Yep - going home soon :) |
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Viktor |
But I have to write some mail for magnuse first |
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jcamins |
Right, that's it, I'm moving to Sweden! |
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jcamins |
:) |
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Viktor |
:) |
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Viktor |
It´s cold, but your'e quite welcome to move here :) |
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magnuse |
hehe |
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drojf |
there is not much koha in sweden as of yet, right? |
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drojf |
so plenty of libraries for everyone ;) |
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Viktor |
drojf No sadly not, but it´s picking up speed a bit I think. |
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magnuse |
where i used to work we worked 8am-3pm in summer (3 months) and 8am-3.45pm for the rest of the year |
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magnuse |
Viktor is doing a great job on fixing that drojf :-) |
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Viktor |
That's good magnuse |
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Viktor |
:) |
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drojf |
Viktor: are you librarian/libtechnician or vendor? |
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Viktor |
It struck me that I should provide you with a "we have to afford at least this or it's no go" with the signs magnuse |
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Viktor |
drojf I'm with the Regional development council in Halland (a region of Sweden) |
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Viktor |
Started out as nerd who became librarian. |
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drojf |
nice :) |
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Viktor |
Now I'm working with all the stuff that libraries dont have time to think about. Like control of the code. |
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Viktor |
And you? |
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drojf |
i work at a special library at humboldt university in berlin |
13:51 |
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drojf |
more the techside, like you |
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Viktor |
Nice :) |
13:51 |
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Viktor |
How long have you been on Koha? (if you are) |
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drojf |
we are not live yet. ugly old database to import |
13:53 |
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Viktor |
Sound like "fun" |
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drojf |
heh |
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Viktor |
Migration can be a pain I understand. |
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Viktor |
The one I've done so far was easy - they had no circulation going :) |
13:54 |
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drojf |
yes, our data is weirdly structured. or not structured at all :D |
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Viktor |
What system are you using today? |
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drojf |
some selfbuilt filemaker thing that somebody made to replace the old paper catalogue years ago |
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Viktor |
I see. We have a academic library here running a Filemaker system they built themselves here. |
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magnuse |
that *does* sound like fun ;-) |
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kf |
dpavlin: is your plack presentationonline somewhere? :) |
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Viktor |
It´s called "ProBib" |
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drojf |
Viktor: tell them to use koha ;) |
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drojf |
kf: from kohacon? it is, somewhere |
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drojf |
no they did not do plack there |
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drojf |
heh |
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drojf |
confused |
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wahanui |
confused is "Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?" |
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tcohen |
bug 8251 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8251 critical, P1 - high, ---, koha, Signed Off , Patrons are systematically debarred at checkin |
14:00 |
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dpavlin |
kf: I don't think I had *presentation* I showed plack and performance wiki page, and all info should be there somewhere |
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tcohen |
is there a list of bugs that need atention so 3.8.x becomes stable? |
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jcamins |
tcohen: there's a list called FIXME NOW. |
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Viktor |
I'll certainly ask them :) They have taken an interest in Koha, but I don't think they are up for throwing out their custom system just like that. They built a lot of other internal workflow into it. |
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jcamins |
http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]d=1&list_id=33480 |
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drojf |
Viktor: but it's probably all stuff you can do with koha, only differently i suppose? |
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kf |
drojf: didn't you meet viktor in edi? |
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drojf |
no must have missed him |
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drojf |
too many new people for my little brain |
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drojf |
can i upload a png to the wiki? |
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drojf |
dpavlin: http://i.imgur.com/wmIrf.png \o/ |
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Viktor |
KohaCon was great - but I didn't either get to know everybody. But the group photo was a good idea. Let's med remember many names and faces. |
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asaurat1 |
I remember you, Viktor =) |
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asaurat1 |
(I think so) |
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asaurat1 |
you're from Sweden ? |
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mbalmer |
bbl.. |
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drojf |
asaurat: easy for you, you did not need to learn the names of all the people from your company ;) |
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asaurat |
loll |
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Viktor |
Yep! asaurat :) |
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dpavlin |
drojf: You can upload attachment to wiki, I manage to insert image into performance page. |
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kf |
dpavlin: heya :) |
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kf |
slides for plack? |
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magnuse |
Viktor: did you talk to people at kohacon about the digital signs? |
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kf |
want to show my sysadmin :) |
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dpavlin |
kf: I don't think I had *presentation* I showed plack and performance wiki page, and all info should be there somewhere |
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drojf |
dpavlin: ok, but i will write up plack on raspberry pi somewhen later, need to get some sun first. |
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dpavlin |
kf: http://blog.rot13.org/koha/koha-plack-debug.ogv is overview of development tools which are in state of flux, and not yet in upstream |
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jcamins |
dpavlin: have you looked at C4::Context? |
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vfernandes |
hi Koha community... there is any UNIMARC plugins for 100$a authority? |
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dpavlin |
jcamins: yap. I have half-baked Koha which replaces memoize and memcache with chi variants, but that's probably not what you are asking... |
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jcamins |
It seems to me that we could make Plack start up a lot more efficiently if we didn't have that horrible BEGIN { } block and ->new() getting called every time the file is used. |
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dpavlin |
jcamins: but that would change our cgi compatibility up to some point, right? |
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jcamins |
dpavlin: no, just check whether we need to call ->new() prior to calling it. |
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jcamins |
I might be misunderstanding how it works, but I think that Plack is recreating the Context object every time it opens a new page, just like CGI. |
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jcamins |
(not necessarily for every request, but for every page) |
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Viktor |
Bye - see you another day. Got to go home. |
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kf |
dpavlin: I thnk you showed some pictures... |
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dpavlin |
jcamins: I agree. Will have to see what I can do wile preserving CGI compatibility |
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* dpavlin |
leaves his keyboard to go to coffee with sister, sorry. BRB |
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* jcamins |
thinks that leaving one's keyboard is an excellent idea. |
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* magnuse |
leaves his keyboard to make dinner |
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* drojf |
leaves his keyboard to see the sun :) |
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drojf |
a lot of unattended keyboards in #koha |
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* wajasu |
attends to his keyboard |
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* wajasu |
waits as remove_items_from _biblioitems is run ......................... |
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* kf |
is downloading debian |
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jcamins |
kf: oh? |
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eythian |
can anyone tell me what the UNIMARC title and subtitle fields are (245$a and $b in MARC21) |
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tcohen |
anyone can explain the nature of bug 8071, i'm willing to test the patch but not sure haw to do it |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8071 blocker, P1 - high, ---, henridamien.laurent, Needs Signoff , link beween bib and authorities with the authid |
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* wajasu |
rebuild zebra index |
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kf |
jcamins: new vb for koha dev at work :) |
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kf |
eythian: I think maybe 200 |
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kf |
unimarc documenation? |
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kf |
unimarc? |
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wahanui |
hmmm... unimarc is http://www.ifla.org/en/publica[…]ted-documentation |
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kf |
tcohen: I asked the same question on the bug :( |
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tcohen |
yeah, i know |
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tcohen |
maybe hdl? |
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eythian |
oh goodie, a pdf |
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jcamins |
Yay! |
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jcamins |
eythian: 200$something |
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eythian |
jcamins: yeah, 200$a is title, but I can't see an equivalent for 245$b |
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vfernandes |
200$a title... 200$e subtitle |
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eythian |
"Other Title Information" ... sounds plausible, I'll go with that. |
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eythian |
thanks vfernandes |
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vfernandes |
anyone can help me with this: there is any UNIMARC plugins for 100$a authority? |
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jcamins |
vfernandes: no idea, sorry. |
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* tcohen |
re-reads his previous posts, and belives he has to abandon coffee for a few days. English getting worse! |
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vfernandes |
thanks anyway jcamins :) |
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kf |
vfernandes: I thought there was one - does it not show up in the plugin list |
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kf |
? |
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kf |
ah, authority, I think I am confusing with bibliographic :( |
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vfernandes |
for biblio there one... but the 100$a in the authorities are completely different of the biblio :/ |
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jcamins |
vfernandes: hdl would know, probably. |
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jcamins |
Or francharb. |
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wahanui |
francharb falls asleep easily at sea. Don't believe me? Just ask Brooke. |
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jcamins |
Uhhh... what? |
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kf |
jcamins: stories from India I think |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
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ropuch |
Good morning :) |
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jcamins |
paul_p: did my answer on bug 6557 clarify? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6557 normal, P3, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , biblioitems.totalissues unused |
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paul_p |
hi jcamins, nope i'm a little bit late pushing those days :\ |
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jcamins |
paul_p: that's okay. I just want to make sure that my reasoning makes sense. |
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kf |
ropuch: hi :) |
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jcamins |
(to you... I know it makes sense to me;) |
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ropuch |
Hello kf [; |
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ropuch |
I've just installed 3.8 (highest version used so far was 3.4) |
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ropuch |
I was little suprised by the look of intranet home page |
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jcamins |
ropuch: yes, one of the features in 3.8 was a redesigned staff client. |
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kf |
ropuch: it's still koha, no worries .) |
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clrh |
rangi: thanks for 8233 - so important for us :) |
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kf |
rangi++ clrh++ :) |
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hdl |
tcohen: the problem comes from BNF biblio records and authorities. They add $9 " 0 " in elements linked to authorities. |
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hdl |
And then, when authorities are linked and displayed... |
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hdl |
the $9 gets the user to authority "0" |
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hdl |
So this is a bad behaviour. And quite anoying. |
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hdl |
jcamins: vfernandes mmm no 100$a plugin for authority that I know of... |
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hdl |
vfernandes: same for UNIMARC leader btw |
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vfernandes |
thanks hdl |
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* wajasu |
upgraded from v3.1 to v3.8, works ok. |
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neo_ |
hi |
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wahanui |
que tal, neo_ |
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neo_ |
i have encountered some error , trying to configure ssl for koha |
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wizzyrea |
bug 8233 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8233 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , New search engine layer - introduce solr without breaking anything else |
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neo_ |
i think some rewrite rule error |
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wizzyrea |
ooh crlh++ rangi++ |
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pastebot |
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wajasu |
i am able to use sshfs from debian to mount my host OS koha git clone. so i patch/code in my host with all my tools, and run the koha web app in dev mode no problem. |
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jcamins |
wajasu: yeah, I've been thinking I might adopt that method, too. |
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mtj |
yeah, its how i'm doing it too... |
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wajasu |
i did a perl Makefile.PL dev environemnt with no problem from my VM. |
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wajasu |
ok. we have quorum. |
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mtj |
i was getting lots of 'VM disk is too small' errors too |
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wajasu |
i put a colorized bash prompt for git, and it tells me if i have changed things in my branch, and reports the brnch i am in. |
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jcamins |
mtj: I have /home on a separate virtual disk. |
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mtj |
jcamins: yep, thats the one :) |
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wajasu |
i used -oidmap=user,uid=1000,Ciphers=arcfour |
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wajasu |
so whn i change the branch on my hostOS (or separate VM in your case), i can skip through patch environments. |
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wajasu |
i was able to build the koha-common deb package too. |
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jcamins |
Did you find a way to deal with the fakeroot? |
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wajasu |
i must have |
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jcamins |
I guess that means you're not sure what it was? :) |
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eythian |
fakeroot has issues when mounted over some network filesystems |
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jcamins |
eythian: yeah, we discovered that. |
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eythian |
I can't run it on NFS, for example |
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eythian |
that's why pdebuild is handy, it uses a chroot to build in. |
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jcamins |
Apparently wajasu managed to do it on his system, though. |
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wajasu |
i added koha ALL=(ALL) ALL just under the one for root in /etc/sudoers and things ran through. To get some root capability |
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wajasu |
i ran as koha user |
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eythian |
yeah, I do the sudo thing too |
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eythian |
oh, I also add nopasswd: |
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eythian |
(for my dev environment) |
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wajasu |
i hadn't done the no password thing yet. |
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pastebot |
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neo_ |
that is a working config for koha ssl |
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wajasu |
but i bumped my VM to 5G. |
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jcamins |
neo_: I'm impressed that you got Koha working under CentOS in the first place! |
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jcamins |
neo++ |
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neo_ |
yes jcamins , with your help of course |
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neo_ |
now i am going to implement in the production server |
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wajasu |
i had to build with the fakeroot in /tmp i think. let me try again. |
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kf |
eythian: are you still working? |
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eythian |
yep |
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kf |
@wunder Konstanz |
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kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 30.0°C (6:00 PM CEST on June 18, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 21%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Falling). |
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koha_pune |
hello all, I wanna fetch title, author from items table where borrower number is = 1 however I am not able to see any relationship btw items and borrowes table... I saw some forums joining table issues, statistics however no data maitained in those tables... any tips |
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jcamins |
sql reports library? |
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wahanui |
it has been said that sql reports library is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]L_Reports_Library |
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jcamins |
^^ you should look there |
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koha_pune |
okay...lets have a look |
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drojf |
@wunder berlin, germany |
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drojf: The current temperature in Berlin, Germany is 33.2°C (6:00 PM CEST on June 18, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 20%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Falling). |
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drojf |
thunderstorm coming up |
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koha_pune |
guys, in the section 'List of all items currently borrowed from another library' we can see that they join PK and FK from table 'issues' |
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koha_pune |
now the question would be |
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koha_pune |
what if there is no data maintained in the issues table ? |
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koha_pune |
any workaround to that |
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koha_pune |
??? |
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jcamins |
No, if you don't have any issues, you don't have any issues. |
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koha_pune |
I m not talkin about having issues... |
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drojf |
heh |
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koha_pune |
there can be no issues always in some situation |
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koha_pune |
the idea is to get data |
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koha_pune |
related to items and borrowers |
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koha_pune |
and not related to issues... |
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drojf |
"title, author from items table where borrower number is = 1" |
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drojf |
how should there be a situation like this without issues? |
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jcamins |
koha_pune: there is no relationship between items and borrowers. |
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jcamins |
Borrowers = people who borrow books (or catalog them) |
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koha_pune |
why it would be ? |
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koha_pune |
yep |
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koha_pune |
right |
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koha_pune |
however in my case |
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jcamins |
Items = physical books in a collection. |
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koha_pune |
3 people r cataloging |
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koha_pune |
almost 100entries per day per user |
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wizzyrea |
the first question? |
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wahanui |
"What are you trying to do?" "What is the goal?" or "What problem are you experiencing?" |
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koha_pune |
and issues are not reflecting the same |
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koha_pune |
the aim is to get data |
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koha_pune |
related to borrowers and items |
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koha_pune |
I saw the PK and FK maitain |
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koha_pune |
btw issues and items |
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jcamins |
koha_pune: what data do you want? |
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koha_pune |
now my 3 guys |
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koha_pune |
data like |
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koha_pune |
lets make it simple |
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koha_pune |
title and author only |
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koha_pune |
and as u advised |
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koha_pune |
I fired the query given on wiki |
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koha_pune |
to the table |
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jcamins |
Title and author of *what*? |
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wizzyrea |
bbiab |
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koha_pune |
under table items joined with bbiab |
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jcamins |
koha_pune: there is no title and author information associated with titems. |
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jcamins |
*items |
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koha_pune |
I know that |
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koha_pune |
and after joining with biblio and biblioitems |
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koha_pune |
we can get it - right |
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jcamins |
That information is in biblio. It is easy to get that out. The question you have to ask now is which records would you like the author and title of? |
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koha_pune |
assume that I m borrower 1 who r cataloing 10 entry per day |
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jcamins |
You've mentioned borrowernumber, but that has nothing to do with biblio records, really. But I presume you don't just want a list of all titles and authors. |
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jcamins |
So you want a list of all books cataloged by a particular user? |
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koha_pune |
now I want to fetch the title and author |
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koha_pune |
yes |
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koha_pune |
=> I want a list of all books cataloged by a particular user? |
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jcamins |
Okay, that's a very different question from what you asked originally. :) |
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koha_pune |
oh sorry ffor the misunderstaning |
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jcamins |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]dded_by_cataloger |
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koha_pune |
thanks |
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koha_pune |
lookin at it |
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jcamins |
Note that you do have to have the cataloguing log turned on. |
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koha_pune |
okay jcamins |
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koha_pune |
that helped me ;) |
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koha_pune |
i m tryin now |
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koha_pune |
thanks |
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jcamins |
You're welcome. I just needed to understand what you wanted to do. :) |
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drojf |
i did not know there is a violet stage after the red stage for storm warnings. but we have one now |
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eythian |
Just wait until you have a plaid warning |
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* jcamins |
is not entirely sure whether you are joking or not about the plaid warning, because unfortunately that does sound like something a government would come up with. |
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drojf |
lol eythian |
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kf |
time to go to a biergarten ;) |
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kf |
bye all! |
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drojf |
oh-oh getting really dark. nice that this starts now AFTER i took a long walk in the sun :) |
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eythian |
http://youtu.be/mk7VWcuVOf0 <-- jcamins |
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jcamins |
Hehe. |
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koha_pune |
@jcamins |
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huginn |
koha_pune: I suck |
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koha_pune |
hey there is 2 Titles added by cataloger |
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koha_pune |
the one give me count => this one I knew |
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koha_pune |
the other should give me the title, author |
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koha_pune |
right ? |
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jcamins |
koha_pune: instead of selecting COUNT(whatever) select "biblio.title, biblio.author" |
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koha_pune |
k |
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nengard |
can anyone test bug 8110 so that we can get that very important fix in to 3.8.2 (hopefully) |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8110 blocker, P1 - high, ---, savitra.sirohi, Needs Signoff , Fines accruing on closed days |
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koha_pune |
not returning data as the table action_logs dont have title and author |
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koha_pune |
we shall join it with biblio table but on which base of PK, FK |
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koha_pune |
here is my query |
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koha_pune |
SELECT biblio.title, biblio.author FROM action_logs WHERE module='CATALOGUING' AND user=<<Borrower number>> AND info!='item' AND action='ADD' |
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wizzyrea |
I signed off of it, however, I'd like to see a signoff with a positive functional test. |
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wizzyrea |
(the test plan indeed came back correct) |
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jcamins |
Is anyone around who is running Windows? |
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jcamins |
Preferably XP? |
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eythian |
And will admit to it? |
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jcamins |
eythian: yes, that would help too. |
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drojf |
lol |
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jcamins |
If you PM me, I will not out you. |
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drojf |
i have a virtual machine with xp. i think it still works |
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jcamins |
drojf: I'm trying to figure out with XP has nslookup. |
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jcamins |
*if |
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drojf |
it says it has some problem but starts up. wait a minute |
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eythian |
jcamins: I think that it does |
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drojf |
yes it does |
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jcamins |
eythian: I think so too, but instructing a non-computer illiterate to use nslookup means I have to be sure of the command. |
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jcamins |
*not-computer literate user |
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eythian |
fair enough |
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wajasu |
when building the deb packages, i did: pbuilder create --othermiror 'deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha squeeze main' --mirror http://ftp.debian.org/debian |
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jcamins |
drojf: does the command `nslookup demo.cplibraries.com` return useful information? |
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jcamins |
IP address, specifically. |
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drojf |
maybe, but the machine has no internet :D |
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jcamins |
drojf: ah. |
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jcamins |
drojf: nslookup localhost? |
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wahanui |
I can't find that machine name |
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eythian |
nslookup google.com |
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wahanui |
google.com is 74.125.227.142 |
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jcamins |
Whoah! |
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jcamins |
That's awesome! |
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drojf |
heh |
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eythian |
except that it forces a reconnect |
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jcamins |
eythian: well, yeah. |
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drojf |
jcamins: network bridging seems not to work with the vm anymore. i disabled that at some point because i wanted xp not to phone home. but it doesn't work now that it is enabled anyway |
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jcamins |
drojf: well, you can just try to resolve localhost. I'm just trying to make sure that the command I'm giving is at least somewhat correct. |
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wizzyrea |
jcamins http://www.microsoft.com/resou[…]kup.mspx?mfr=true |
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* wizzyrea |
consults the manual |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: thanks. |
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wizzyrea |
>.> yw |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: silly me, I thought when I looked for nslookup on Microsoft's site, I'd get instructions for something other than Windows 7. |
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* wizzyrea |
runs around shouting "I'm helping!" |
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drojf |
i get the same response regardless of what i write. default servers are not available, server unknown, address 127.0.0.1 |
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* wizzyrea |
guesses you have undefined DNS on your VM |
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drojf |
wizzyrea: yes network does not work at all here. it is supposed to be that way, just strange that i cannot change it back :D |
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jcamins |
drojf: you have a real OS for the host? |
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wizzyrea |
oh, quick check |
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drojf |
jcamins: the host is debian |
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wizzyrea |
google koha - are we ranked again? |
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jcamins |
drojf: it's a security feature. |
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wizzyrea |
my tests indicate so but google knows what I'm looking for |
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wizzyrea |
in my tests it's #2 |
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jcamins |
My tests agree. |
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* wizzyrea |
cheers |
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wizzyrea |
that's better than it was before the relevancy changes |
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wizzyrea |
we used to be 5-6 |
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wizzyrea |
of course, that's *after* they nuked us out of the results completely. |
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wizzyrea |
so that's a positive recovery. |
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* drojf |
likes http://duckduckgo.com/Koha_(software) |
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drojf |
unfortunately we are only #2 without disambiguation. doesn't make any sense |
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jcamins |
There was a bug to do with the first result on the second page of OPAC search results. |
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jcamins |
Bug 7894. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7894 blocker, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Broken detail page for first link on page 2 from search result page in OPAC |
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koha_pune |
hi all |
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koha_pune |
I I want a list of all books cataloged by a particular user |
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wizzyrea |
did you try this one? http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ed_by_cataloger_2 |
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wizzyrea |
oh never mind. not exactly what you are looking for |
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wizzyrea |
wait can't you do this through the logging interface? |
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wizzyrea |
tools -> log viewer |
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wizzyrea |
put the librarian's borrowernumber in "librarian", module "catalog," action "add: |
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wizzyrea |
info "biblio" |
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koha_pune |
hi wizzyrea |
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wizzyrea |
that will give you a list of biblionumbers |
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koha_pune |
already tried the above query but not filtering borrowernumber |
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koha_pune |
the second tought didnt work too :( |
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koha_pune |
i got No log found for Bibliographic Record . |
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jcamins |
koha_pune: that means you don't have logging turned on. |
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koha_pune |
ohh is it |
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koha_pune |
how to turn it on ? |
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jcamins |
manual? |
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wahanui |
somebody said manual was at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation |
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jcamins |
^^ if you look in the manual in the administration section, it will talk about the CataloguingLog syspref. |
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wizzyrea |
select biblio.title, biblio.author, biblio.biblionumber from biblio left join action_logs on (biblio.biblionumber = action_logs.object) where action_logs.user='19'; if you had logging on this would work |
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wizzyrea |
shows all items |
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wizzyrea |
even better: select biblio.title, biblio.author, biblio.biblionumber from biblio left join action_logs on (biblio.biblionumber = action_logs.object) where action_logs.user='19' and module='CATALOGUING' and info = 'biblio'; |
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koha_pune |
@jcamins and wizzyre yep you both are right |
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huginn |
koha_pune: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
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koha_pune |
logging is turned off :( |
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jcamins |
koha_pune: in IRC, you can just use nick: rather than @nick |
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koha_pune |
action_logs.object are not updated at all |
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wizzyrea |
bummer. That's the only place the cataloger's ID is recorded. |
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koha_pune |
hmmm...it sucks |
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koha_pune |
I havent configured it |
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wizzyrea |
*shrug* that's what logging is for. |
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drojf |
on the plus side… you don't have to worry about how to get the info *hides* |
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koha_pune |
now...after enablin logs...would the data already entered will be afftected ? |
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koha_pune |
is there a risk ? |
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koha_pune |
for the previous data ? |
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wizzyrea |
how would it know who did it? |
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wizzyrea |
(no) |
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koha_pune |
okay |
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jcamins |
Hmmm... I think that query might have something to do with pazpar2/ |
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jcamins |
*? |
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jcamins |
(on the mailing list) |
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koha_pune |
guys, i m Home › Administration › System Preferences |
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koha_pune |
and confirming that CataloguingLog is on Log status |
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koha_pune |
one sec |
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* jcamins |
giggles. |
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jcamins |
Neo = Mr. Anderson. :) |
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koha_pune |
jcamins |
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koha_pune |
thanks man |
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koha_pune |
it worked ;) |
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koha_pune |
thanks wizzyrea |
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koha_pune |
ur query is perfect ;) |
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koha_pune |
good night guys |
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* tomascohen |
is preparing the field to test patches for bug 8110 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8110 blocker, P1 - high, ---, kyle.m.hall, Signed Off , Fines accruing on closed days |
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jcamins |
tcohen++ |
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jcamins |
tomascohen++ |
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jcamins |
What's with the new nick? |
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* jcamins |
was confused. |
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jcamins |
;) |
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tcohen |
this is weird, i've changed to 'tomascohen' in the UI so it shows 'tcohen' in the IRC |
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tcohen |
quassel irc client malfinction |
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rangi |
Morning |
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wahanui |
Morning is probably a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast. |
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rangi |
tcohen: I haven't tested the fix for bug 8110 yet but my fear is by fixing it for us style dates its now broken for others. I'm most likely wrong |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8110 blocker, P1 - high, ---, kyle.m.hall, Signed Off , Fines accruing on closed days |
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tcohen |
i'm trying to imagine haw to test it |
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tcohen |
how |
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rangi |
*nod* |
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rangi |
I think would have to insert some lines in issues that would cause a fine today |
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rangi |
Then mark today a holiday |
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rangi |
And run the cronjob |
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rangi |
And try with different date format sysprefs |
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rangi |
Not easy to test |
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tcohen |
the thing is, due dates are calculated on checkout |
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jcamins |
Is it possible to do @array = sort @array? |
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jcamins |
(and have it work!) |
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rangi |
Yeah but unfortunately can just run sql updates to change them tcohen |
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rangi |
Hmm fortunately even |
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rangi |
Depends what's in the array jcamins |
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jcamins |
rangi: just strings. |
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rangi |
Should work |
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rangi |
U might want to specify cmp |
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rangi |
So it does nice string comparisons |
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rangi |
Ok. Gotta feed kids bbiab |
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* jcamins |
prefers baking bread in the oven. |
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jcamins |
(to the stovetop) |
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mbalmer |
if you have strange or complicated MARC files, I am interested. in getting a copy... |
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drojf |
what would make a MARC file strange or complicated? |
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drojf |
more than normal i mean |
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mbalmer |
different languages etc. |
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cait |
mbalmer: remind me tomorrow maybe? |
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cait |
I can point you to some interesting ones |
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cait |
if hebrew is interesting you could download a few records from hfjs.bsz-bw.de |
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cait |
search for something like dvd |
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jcamins |
If vaguely non-standard compliant records qualify, any Arabic record in NYU's catalog should do. |
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cait |
searching in hebrew works too, but bit more difficult to do :) |
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cait |
evening jared |
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mbalmer |
I am really interested in strange MARC records to stress test the marc datatype in PostgreSQL |
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jcamins |
Drat. I can't figure out how to iterate through a regular array in T::T. |
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jcamins |
Afternoon, cait. |
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rangi |
For loop |
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rangi |
Or you could do a while loop |
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cait |
use a loop! |
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cait |
sorry :) |
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cait |
:P |
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jcamins |
rangi: I can make them work with arrays of hashes, but not so much with arrays of strings. |
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rangi |
Should be the same arrayref.$i |
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drojf |
good morning rangi |
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* cait |
waves at drojf |
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drojf |
hi cait |
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rangi |
Heya drojf |
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wizzyrea |
yes, please double check that fines dev, functional testing is going to be hard. |
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wizzyrea |
or hard-ish |
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jcamins |
Oh, silly autovivification. |
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jcamins |
[% dbfile %] won't say "hey you idiot, the variable is misspelled!" |
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mbalmer |
missspelled |
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drojf |
rangi: is there a diminutive of koha? |
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mbalmer |
koha.i |
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mbalmer |
kohalino |
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drojf |
i mean in maori ;) |
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cait |
a small gift? |
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rangi |
Iti is small |
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rangi |
Koha iti |
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rangi |
jcamins you can make it do that |
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rangi |
Strict mode |
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jcamins |
Hm. |
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* jcamins |
may start doing that while developing. |
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rangi |
Good idea |
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rangi |
Ok my stop bbiab |
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cait |
morning kathryn |
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cait |
hi querty |
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kathryn |
hiya cait. I just finished cleaning chicken soup out of my bag :S |
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cait |
oh no :( |
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bag |
oh no |
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kathryn |
yech! |
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cait |
well, at least it was not cream |
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kathryn |
Hi bag :) |
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cait |
cream makes your bag stink cheesy |
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cait |
forever |
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kathryn |
oh true, i can confirm there was no dairy in it |
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cait |
... found out the hard way |
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bag |
I am not stink cheese ;) |
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cait |
haven't met you yet ;) |
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kathryn |
hehe |
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cait |
only joking of course :) |
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cait |
brb |
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jcamins |
Yay! |
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jcamins |
I have an initial implementation for bug 8268! |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8268 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Koha should offer way to backup entire db |
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kathryn |
hey jcamins that's pretty awesome |
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rangi |
back |
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mtj |
morning #koha |
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rangi |
hi mtj |
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cait |
back too :) |
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cait |
night :) |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: bug 8268 is ready for your sign off! |
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jcamins |
:D |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8268 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Koha should offer way to backup entire db |
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rangi |
yay! |
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jcamins |
rangi: or yours. |
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jcamins |
kathryn: or yours! I in no way intended to imply you weren't permitted to sign off! |
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rangi |
heh |
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jcamins |
^^ the same goes for everyone. |
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rangi |
is it sandbox testable? |
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jcamins |
rangi: no. |
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rangi |
db changes eh? |
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jcamins |
No, the paranoid sysadmin in me made it so that you have to enable the feature in koha-conf.xml. |
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rangi |
ah right |
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rangi |
i might get a chance tonight, hopefully someone beats me to it |
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kathryn |
jcamins : ) encouragement accepted! |
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* wizzyrea |
is feeling signoff shy |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: awww. It's not that scary! |
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jcamins |
Well, other than the commit message. |
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* jcamins |
will grant it's kind of a scary message. |
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drojf |
good night #koha |
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