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wajasu |
v3.8.0 - when i import a biblio via z3950 server (LOC) i usually have to specifiy the the koha item type. (usually book), but isn't that sor t of detail in the marc record? and doesn't koha leverage that? maybe a mapping of marc type to koha item type at timport? or am i missing something? |
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talljoy |
yes, the item type is buried in the marc, but the import tool does not look for it. Koha stores an itemtype in the 942$c field at the bibliorecord level. |
| 00:45 |
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talljoy |
i can see the value of leveraging that information as you say. Koha refers to that marc leader item type in some of it's displays which can be a tad annoying if the type is different from what the library calls it |
| 00:47 |
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wajasu |
that leader 06 position? maybe its too ambiguous. but then we would need a column in the item type table, which might already be there since i didn't look, that enables such a rule at import. |
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wajasu |
i'll scan the bug db to see if this has been suggested in the past. |
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wajasu |
here is something related http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4814 |
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huginn |
Bug 4814: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Item Type (MARC952 $c) not self-populating from imported OCLC bib |
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talljoy |
that's close, but refers more to the item level itemtype not populating. |
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talljoy |
i wonder if there is a reason that the 006 item type is not utilized. curious. |
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wajasu |
i'll bring it up during the work week. it could at least default when the tab is selected. |
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jcamins_away |
wajasu: talljoy: no, you cannot derive 942$c from the bib record. |
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jcamins_away |
It's a common misconception that item format as described by 006/008 is related to 942$c. |
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* jcamins_away |
wanders off. |
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jcamins_away |
If the two coincide for your data, you could do some sort of batch update, but it would not be general enough to include in Koha's import functionality. |
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wajasu |
well, there you have it then. |
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mib_tvzb2t |
hi |
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mib_tvzb2t |
someone there ? |
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* cait |
waves |
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cait |
mle_imac: back at video editing? |
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* magnuse |
waves |
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cait |
hi magnuse :) |
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magnuse |
guten morgen cait |
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cait |
working on a sunday? |
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magnuse |
yeah, trying to get some things done |
| 08:07 |
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magnuse |
you too? |
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cait |
yeah |
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cait |
some testing :) |
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Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.8.1, 3.6.5 and 3.4.8 Now Available | Koha Community Website - http://www.koha-community.org/ | http://paste.koha-community.org | General IRC Meeting 18 July 2012 at 10:00 UTC+0 |
| 08:11 |
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mbalmer |
morning |
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magnuse |
hiya mbalmer |
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cait |
hi mbalmer |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #56 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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magnuse |
3.8.2 nb-NO opac 100% translated! |
| 08:40 |
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rangi |
yay1 |
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rangi |
! even |
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cait |
yay!! |
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cait |
which reminds me... |
| 08:41 |
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cait |
but it's so boring! |
| 08:59 |
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magnuse |
the opac was quick - 15 strings at most |
| 09:00 |
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magnuse |
but yes, translating is not the most fun... |
| 09:00 |
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magnuse |
rangi: would you say 3.8.2 will be ready for production? |
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rangi |
nope |
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rangi |
id wait for 3.8.3 there are still problems with the calendar/holidays as well as a problem with fines |
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rangi |
fines are now calculated on return .. as well as with the cron job and seem to be doubling up, i think the calculate on return should be a syspref, and it should be made impossible to double up |
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magnuse |
hm, none of my customers use fines |
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rangi |
and there's nothing worse than charging peopel the wrong amount |
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magnuse |
yeah, that sux |
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rangi |
the calendar one would get you too |
| 09:06 |
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rangi |
it ignores holidays |
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magnuse |
not sure any of mine use that either |
| 09:06 |
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rangi |
you migth be ok then |
| 09:08 |
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magnuse |
guess i better upgrade my test install and give it a spin... |
| 09:08 |
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rangi |
:) |
| 09:10 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.8.x build #56: SUCCESS in 51 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.8.x/56/ |
| 09:10 |
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jenkins_koha |
Chris Cormack: Revert "Bug 7444: Update circ/circulation.pl to use KohaDates TT Plugin" |
| 09:10 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7444 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Use T::T date plugin to display dates omnibus |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #57 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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magnuse |
they will all be in holiday mode soon too :-) |
| 09:11 |
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magnuse |
\o/ success! |
| 09:11 |
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rangi |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3fd920d677fe18da1 |
| 09:11 |
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rangi |
you can see whats in 3.8.2 ( a few more might sneak in before release but not many) |
| 09:13 |
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rangi |
there are still some blockers/criticals |
| 09:15 |
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rangi |
bug 8253 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8253 blocker, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Fine doubling |
| 09:15 |
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rangi |
bug 8243 |
| 09:15 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8243 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , calendar being ignored |
| 09:15 |
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rangi |
bug 8110 |
| 09:15 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8110 blocker, P1 - high, ---, savitra.sirohi, In Discussion , Fines accruing on closed days |
| 09:15 |
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rangi |
all need to be fixed before i could use 3.8.x anywhere |
| 09:18 |
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rangi |
http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]NOW&list_id=33398 |
| 09:18 |
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rangi |
does that work? |
| 09:22 |
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cait |
nope |
| 09:25 |
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magnuse |
"There is no saved search named 'FIXME NOW'. " |
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* magnuse |
wanders off to breakfast |
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cait |
breakfast, now? |
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cait |
:P |
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rangi |
does that search show now? |
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cait |
no :( |
| 09:45 |
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cait |
really, bugzilla should make that easier |
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* slef |
wanders back from breakfast |
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cait |
hi slef |
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slef |
hi cait |
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mbalmer |
hi slef... |
| 09:49 |
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mbalmer |
see privmsg... |
| 09:51 |
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slef |
hi mbalmer, can't we talk about that in public? |
| 09:51 |
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mbalmer |
sure. |
| 09:51 |
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mbalmer |
I was asking slef about the availability of a vectorized Koha logo. |
| 09:52 |
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slef |
We will have one used on our banners and will publish it as soon as we've paid the designer. |
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slef |
I think there may be an earlier one around, used on Calyx's banner, but I need to email Irma to ask. |
| 09:54 |
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slef |
I think it's worth having that on the record :) |
| 09:54 |
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slef |
So we don't end up with maybe a third one being bought... |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.8.x build #57: SUCCESS in 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.8.x/57/ |
| 10:00 |
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jenkins_koha |
kyle: Bug 6141 - html glitches causing problems to translator - 3.8.x |
| 10:00 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6141 minor, P3, ---, frederic, Pushed to Stable , html glitches causing problems to translator |
| 10:00 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #58 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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slef |
emailed Irma |
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mbalmer |
thx! |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6875] de-nesting C4 packages <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6875> / [Bug 6536] Z3950 Enhancements: SRU targets, MARC conversion, additional XSLT processing <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6536> / [Bug 7127] Templates must be valid XHTML <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7127> |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.8.x build #58: SUCCESS in 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.8.x/58/ |
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jenkins_koha |
Chris Cormack: First cut of the 3.8.2 release notes |
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drojf |
ping dpavlin |
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slef |
@seen dpavlin |
| 12:31 |
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huginn |
slef: dpavlin was last seen in #koha 18 hours, 24 minutes, and 29 seconds ago: <dpavlin> drojf1: depending on arch a bit, but yes for 1 process. |
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cait |
hi drojf :) |
| 12:33 |
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cait |
hi slef |
| 12:33 |
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slef |
err hello again cait |
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drojf |
hi cait and slef |
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jcamins_mib |
cait++ # because in my little netsplit portion of the channel there is no one recording the karma I gave her earlier for testing |
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cait |
oh? |
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cait |
thx :) |
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cait |
still problems with your network? |
| 13:54 |
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jcamins_mib |
Nope. OFTC this time. |
| 13:55 |
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jcamins_mib |
gmcharlt, cjh, me, and jeff are all by ourselves. |
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cait |
interesting |
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* jcamins_away |
figures out how to reconnect to the non-split server. |
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jcamins_away |
magnuse: FWIW, I'm not considering 3.8 until 3.8.4. |
| 14:03 |
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jcamins_away |
Those features I require are backported to 3.6.x. |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
yeah, we will go with 3.6.x for now |
| 14:04 |
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cait |
until 3.8 is more stable in circ |
| 14:11 |
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neo__ |
hi |
| 14:12 |
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neo__ |
i am trying to install koha-3.8.1 |
| 14:12 |
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neo__ |
while running perl Makefile.PL , i am getting one error |
| 14:12 |
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neo__ |
unable to locate Koha configuration file koha-conf.xml at /usr/local/src/koha-3.8.1/C4/Context.pm line 360. |
| 14:12 |
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neo__ |
any idea ? |
| 14:17 |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
are you trying to update or trying to do a new installation? |
| 14:20 |
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jcamins_away |
neo__: you can ignore that error if you are doing a new installation. |
| 14:21 |
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cait |
jcamins++ :) |
| 14:21 |
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neo__ |
yes, i am doing a new installation |
| 14:21 |
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jcamins_away |
That reminds me. |
| 14:21 |
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jcamins_away |
I need to report a bug on how C4::Context handles itself. |
| 14:21 |
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neo__ |
ok |
| 14:22 |
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neo__ |
but in my test machine there is no error like this , now i am doing in a production machine |
| 14:28 |
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jcamins_away |
neo__: that's because you already installed Koha once? |
| 14:28 |
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jcamins_away |
(on the test machine) |
| 14:29 |
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neo__ |
yes, jcamins_away , i did it several times , by removing and dropping the database |
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jcamins_away |
neo__: yes, the *very* first time you installed Koha, you would've gotten that error message. |
| 14:30 |
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jcamins_away |
It's completely harmless. |
| 14:31 |
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neo__ |
ohh... cool , |
| 14:31 |
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neo__ |
thanks... jcamins_away |
| 14:31 |
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jcamins_away |
You're welcome. |
| 14:31 |
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jcamins_away |
Actually, I'm surprised this doesn't cause a problem for Plack. |
| 14:32 |
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neo__ |
ok |
| 14:32 |
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jcamins_away |
neo__: you can ignore my musings on the subject. Everything will work fine for you. |
| 14:32 |
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neo__ |
ok... , :) |
| 14:35 |
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* jcamins_away |
is just contemplating the reasons underlying the error, and what they say about how things are done in Koha. |
| 14:35 |
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* jcamins_away |
wonders whether Plack has access to anything more useful than environment variables. |
| 14:35 |
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cait |
hm |
| 14:36 |
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jcamins |
A pity dpavlin isn't around. |
| 14:36 |
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cait |
dpavlin |
| 14:36 |
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cait |
we can make his computer beep maybe :) |
| 14:36 |
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jcamins |
Other than, obviously, the fact that it's Sunday and he should go out and do something fun. |
| 14:36 |
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cait |
I think you could drop him an email |
| 14:36 |
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cait |
is is most of time logged in, but doesn't check too often on the channel |
| 14:36 |
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jcamins |
Yes, but not knowing the right terms would make it a hard to understand e-mail. |
| 14:37 |
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jcamins |
"I was wondering whether Plack has a doohickey that would allow us to use set_context without a KOHA_CONF environment variable." |
| 14:37 |
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cait |
ask him to drop by sometimes to talk about...X? :) |
| 14:37 |
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cait |
huh? |
| 14:40 |
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jcamins |
That was my point. |
| 14:58 |
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drojf |
jcamins: is there a gpg key for your 3.6 repository? |
| 15:01 |
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drojf |
sorry, i'm just blind |
| 15:01 |
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drojf |
found it |
| 15:32 |
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jcamins |
drojf: also, eythian said the oldstable distribution on debian.k-c.org is suitable for production use now. |
| 15:38 |
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drojf |
jcamins: i asked for my notes on the koha installation on raspberry pi where i used your repo. i should probably use oldstable for the wiki article then, but i dont know if there are the same problems that i had with 3.8 from k-c |
| 15:39 |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
| 15:39 |
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jcamins |
There shouldn't be. |
| 15:39 |
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jcamins |
The packages should be pretty much identical. |
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drojf |
ok |
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cait |
grrrrrr. |
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drojf |
i probably missed some things that i did not wrote down but anyway http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_a_Raspberry_Pi |
| 16:22 |
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drojf |
s/wrote/write |
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slef |
cait: /ctcp dpavlin PAGE ;-) |
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cait |
hm? |
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drojf |
cait: what are you angry about? |
| 16:30 |
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cait |
bugs |
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* cait |
files another bug report and sighs |
| 16:40 |
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cait |
bug 8259 |
| 16:40 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8259 major, P2, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , No longer possible to have multiple serial notices |
| 16:41 |
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cait |
args. |
| 16:47 |
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cait |
ok |
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cait |
mistested |
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cait |
I should stop |
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jcamins |
Quinoa cakes = inspired |
| 18:43 |
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cait |
took apart my laptop and now I am missing one screw :( |
| 18:43 |
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cait |
like always |
| 18:43 |
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cait |
grr. |
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jcamins |
Isn't it usually an *extra* screw? |
| 18:51 |
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drojf |
that's ikea ;) |
| 18:51 |
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cait |
heh |
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cait |
yeah, quite sure they tricked me somewhere |
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rangi |
Morning |
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jcamins |
Morning. |
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cait |
morning :) |
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* jcamins |
scratches his head and rereads the instructions for loading a bobbin into the sewing machine. |
| 19:35 |
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jcamins |
Do they *try* to make it hard to understand? |
| 19:36 |
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cait |
I don't even understand what you want to do |
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* jcamins |
either! |
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jcamins |
http://www.singerco.com/sewing[…]n-insert-top-load |
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rangi |
I have a laurel for that |
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jcamins |
cait: did you attach a patch to the wrong bug? 7392 vs 7302? |
| 19:37 |
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cait |
wuit posible |
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cait |
I was missing one right now |
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rangi |
Hehe |
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rangi |
The downside of git bz |
| 19:38 |
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rangi |
Very easy to do that |
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cait |
jcamins: thx :) |
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cait |
7392 should have been 7302 |
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jcamins |
I did it! I think. |
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jcamins |
The bobbin is now in the sewing machine. |
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* rangi |
is hanging out for a flat white |
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cait |
first queston |
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cait |
first question? |
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cait |
oh |
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cait |
first question? |
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cait |
wahanui? |
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cait |
seems we are missing a bot here |
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cait |
jcamins: what are you trying to do? |
| 19:42 |
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jcamins |
He's probably still on the other server. |
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jcamins |
cait: fix the timing in this sewing machine. |
| 19:43 |
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rangi |
@later tell eythian can use restart wahanui please |
| 19:43 |
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huginn |
rangi: The operation succeeded. |
| 19:45 |
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rangi |
I resized my linode to get more disk space which needed a reboot |
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rangi |
New kernel too |
| 19:46 |
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rangi |
@wunder nzwn |
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huginn |
rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0°C (7:00 AM NZST on June 18, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 20.1°C (9:45 PM CEST on June 17, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
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rangi |
Nice day today |
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rangi |
My stop bbiab |
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jcamins |
Okay... when there's no cloth, the sewing machine seems to do fine. |
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jcamins |
It's hard to tell, because it's not like it's stitching anything. |
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jcamins |
Okay, I managed to recreate the problem with the sewing machine turned off, and no fabric blocking my view. |
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jcamins |
This is good progress. :) |
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rangi |
back |
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cait |
morning kathryn |
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kathryn |
good morning cait! |
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kathryn |
and hi all :) |
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* jcamins |
removes a piece from the sewing machine. |
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cait |
be careful, don't loose any screws |
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rangi |
heh |
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jcamins |
cait: or end up with extras. |
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cait |
heh |
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rangi |
hmm lots to catch up on |
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* jcamins |
reads about how sewing machines work. |
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cait |
jcamins: I guess there is no guarantee on it? |
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cait |
ok |
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cait |
with indybranches |
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cait |
I should not be able to make a basket belong to another branch.. right? |
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jcamins |
cait: nope. It's out of warrantee, and it breaks if Shari ever goes more than a week without using it. |
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jcamins |
That is correct. |
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jcamins |
We'll be replacing it, I think. |
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wajasu |
http://savage.net.au/Perl/html[…]or.beginners.html |
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jcamins |
So when I have the tension high enough for the stitches to work, the thread gets caught underneath the feed dogs. |
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rangi |
jcamins: oh speaking of Shari .. 184! http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0d677fe18da1#l612 |
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jcamins |
Also, the tension does not appear to go up or down in any consistent way when I turn the tension dial. |
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jcamins |
rangi: yeah, I showed her. :) |
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rangi |
sweet :) |
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