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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha folk. |
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wajasu |
ok. got my kvm script to build debiansqueeze+koha, and now i did a git clone and am wiring up the environment, whilst reusing the PERL5LIB. My staf admin interface works fine. The opac complained about GetDailyQuote is not exported by the C4::Koha module. Maybe its just because I pulled from the master. |
| 01:11 |
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* mtompset |
shrugs, "I don't know." |
| 01:17 |
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wajasu |
i'll try an pull a stable release tag. |
| 01:18 |
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mtompset |
I would try to "grep -l GetDailyQuote `find .`" in your koha install. |
| 01:19 |
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mtompset |
And then figure out by looking at the code in the modules listed. |
| 01:36 |
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mtompset |
any success, wajasu? |
| 01:43 |
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wajasu |
running cpan to get two perl modules |
| 01:44 |
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mtompset |
which two? |
| 01:44 |
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wajasu |
DateTime::Format:MySQL and DateTime::TimeZone |
| 01:45 |
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mtompset |
Are you sure there isn't a package for the first one? |
| 01:45 |
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mtompset |
I did an install attempt under Ubuntu. |
| 01:45 |
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mtompset |
I did an "aptitude search datetime-format-mysql" |
| 01:45 |
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mtompset |
and it found it. |
| 01:46 |
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mtompset |
perhaps a similar search "aptitude search datetime-timezone" might find the second. |
| 01:46 |
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wajasu |
oh yeah. i forgot. i was literraly following INSTALL.debian (should have searched). |
| 01:47 |
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mtompset |
Don't worry about it. I've done that before too. :) |
| 01:48 |
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mtompset |
I did mention ubuntu expressly in a bug report I put up recently. |
| 01:48 |
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mtompset |
bug 8192 |
| 01:48 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8192 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Update libraries and Missing library in install_misc/ubuntu.packages |
| 01:49 |
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mtompset |
the missing library is the first one you mentioned: DateTime::Format::MySQL |
| 01:52 |
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wajasu |
"GetDailyQuote" is not exported by the C4::Koha module |
| 01:52 |
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wajasu |
Can't continue after import errors at /kohaclone/opac/opac-main.pl line 26 |
| 01:52 |
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wajasu |
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /kohaclone/opac/opac-main.pl line 26. |
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wajasu |
maybe i have the /etc/koha/apache2/apache-shared.conf not mapped correctly for opac |
| 01:57 |
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mtompset |
No, I don't think so. |
| 01:58 |
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wajasu |
i need to do Makefile.PL and follow the INSTALL.debian (got to get my KOHA_CONF and defined as well. |
| 01:58 |
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mtompset |
But this is probably a newer feature. |
| 01:58 |
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wajasu |
i've just done a git pull. and edited the apache stuff. |
| 01:58 |
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wajasu |
the staff interface worked. |
| 01:58 |
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mtompset |
Ah, so you haven't finished the setup steps... |
| 01:59 |
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mtompset |
Probably a good idea to finish them first before trying to debug. :) |
| 02:00 |
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wajasu |
yes. i will have to do this tomorrow with a fresh generated VM and follow the install steps. :) thx |
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mtompset |
What VM package are you using? |
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mtompset |
For my testing purposes, I have a windows box with VirtualBox running. |
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wajasu |
i wrote a shell script that i run that uses libvirt. it grabs the debian netinst iso, and a cdrom install using a debian preseeding file, which also installs koha-common, and configures its all. now I am adding a git dev environment to it for patches. libvirt will be able to generate qcow2, vmdk, lvm, kvm based images. |
| 02:08 |
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wajasu |
it only took 5 minutes to run in my /dev/shm /tmp directory. (really just waited while grabbing stuff from repos). its a good way to document what it takes. maybe it can be web hosted later and folks can generate different images. my host machine is archlinux. |
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Oak |
kia ora #koha |
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mtompset |
interesting. Hi, Oak. |
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Oak |
Hello mtompset :) |
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mtompset |
@wunder MNL |
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huginn` |
mtompset: The current temperature in Manila, Philippines is 30.0°C (10:00 AM PHT on June 07, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 26.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). |
| 02:49 |
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mtompset |
where are the irc logs? |
| 02:49 |
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wahanui |
the irc logs are http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/ |
| 02:50 |
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mtompset |
Thank you, wahanui. |
| 02:50 |
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wahanui |
mtompset: sure thing |
| 03:07 |
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* mtompset |
is taking a short 15 minute break. |
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* mtompset |
waves to #koha folks. |
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mtompset |
topic? |
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wahanui |
topic is wrong. :) |
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mtompset |
wahanui forget topic |
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wahanui |
mtompset: I forgot topic |
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mtompset |
topic? |
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bencahill |
G'night guys, I'm going to unplug because of the storm here. :) |
| 03:43 |
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mtompset |
Good night, bencahill. |
| 03:44 |
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bencahill |
mtompset: Hey, I'm just now trying out Sublime Text (just heard of it), and it's awesome! You should give it a try. :P |
| 03:45 |
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* bencahill |
feels crazy for somewhat ditching vim so fast, but this is out of this world. |
| 03:45 |
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mtompset |
What is Sublime Text? |
| 03:45 |
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mtompset |
And editor? |
| 03:45 |
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bencahill |
Yup |
| 03:45 |
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mtompset |
Why install a non-default editor? |
| 03:45 |
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mtompset |
Less installs = good. |
| 03:46 |
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bencahill |
mtompset: Eh, vim is on-default on this distro (arch) |
| 03:46 |
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bencahill |
mtompset: And yes, vi/vim has that awesome advantage, and I'll still use it for a lot of things. |
| 03:47 |
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mtompset |
really?! what editor is installed by default on arch linux? |
| 03:47 |
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bencahill |
mtompset: vi |
| 03:47 |
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bencahill |
s/on-default/n&/ |
| 03:48 |
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mtompset |
What's wrong with plain vi? |
| 03:48 |
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bencahill |
Um, no syntax highlighting, for one. |
| 03:48 |
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mtompset |
BAH! If you can't see the syntax, you need glasses. :P |
| 03:48 |
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bencahill |
I'm sure there are a lot of other things I like in vim that vi doesn't have. Not that I'm saying vi by itself isn't awesome. ;) |
| 03:49 |
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* bencahill |
actually likes pretty colors, even though he does use a tiling wm with no window borders. Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, eh? |
| 03:50 |
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bencahill |
But anyway, g'night...I'm just excited. :) |
| 03:50 |
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mtompset |
When I was in University, emacs was the rage. |
| 03:50 |
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mtompset |
Okay... have a good night, bencahill. :) |
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bencahill |
:) |
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mtompset |
@wunder EDI |
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huginn` |
mtompset: The current temperature in Dalgety Bay, United Kingdom is 10.7°C (6:15 AM BST on June 07, 2012). Conditions: Fog. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Steady). |
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cait |
morning mtompset |
| 05:29 |
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mtompset |
Hi, Cait. |
| 05:30 |
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mtompset |
It's afternoon here. But you're at #kohacon, so it's morning there. :) |
| 05:32 |
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mtompset |
Strange... no bug reports of CCL parsing error? |
| 05:37 |
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cait |
bbiab |
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* mtompset |
nods. |
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* mtompset |
smirks, "Yes, a bit is much longer than 10 minutes." |
| 06:53 |
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mtompset |
what is a bit? |
| 06:53 |
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wahanui |
somebody said a bit was unset, but it's still stuck at the bottom. |
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reiveune |
hello |
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wahanui |
bonjour, reiveune |
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mtompset |
Bonjour. :) |
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mtompset |
@wunder EDI |
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huginn` |
mtompset: The current temperature in Dalgety Bay, United Kingdom is 10.6°C (7:45 AM BST on June 07, 2012). Conditions: Fog. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Steady). |
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mtompset |
96% humidity?! |
| 06:56 |
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mtompset |
@wunder MNL |
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huginn` |
mtompset: The current temperature in Ninoy Aquino Inter-National Airport, Philippines is 28.0°C (2:00 PM PHT on June 07, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 27.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Falling). |
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mtompset |
Wait a second... that time is wrong. |
| 06:58 |
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mtompset |
It's nearly 3PM. |
| 06:59 |
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mtompset |
Oh, the data was an hour ago. |
| 07:00 |
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* mtompset |
thinks he needs to take an afternoon nap. |
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matts |
hi ! |
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mtompset |
Hi, matts. |
| 08:16 |
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mtompset |
It's been rather empty so far today. |
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matts |
It's 9 AM here :) |
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mtompset |
It's 4:16PM here. |
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mtompset |
@wunder EDI |
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huginn` |
mtompset: The current temperature in Dalgety Bay, United Kingdom is 12.2°C (9:15 AM BST on June 07, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Steady). |
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mtompset |
@wunder MNL |
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huginn` |
mtompset: The current temperature in Manila, Philippines is 29.0°C (4:00 PM PHT on June 07, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 26.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady). |
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Oak |
@wunder islamabad |
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huginn` |
Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 35.0°C (1:00 PM PKT on June 07, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 25%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:31 |
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cait |
heya Oak :) |
| 08:31 |
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Oak |
o hello cait :) what are you doing? |
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cait |
still trying to wake up :) |
| 08:31 |
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nengard |
ditto |
| 08:32 |
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Oak |
huh? waking up late today? |
| 08:32 |
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cait |
we are at the conference site... only a bit tired :) |
| 08:32 |
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cait |
short night |
| 08:33 |
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rangi |
nengard: you have bureacrat permissions on the wiki eh? |
| 08:33 |
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nengard |
what does that mean? |
| 08:33 |
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Oak |
hmm |
| 08:33 |
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nengard |
I don't think I do ? but maybe |
| 08:34 |
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nengard |
I know I can delete pages - I can see the users list but don't see a way to approve/reject members .... |
| 08:34 |
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rangi |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]&group=bureaucrat |
| 08:34 |
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nengard |
oh ?. hehe |
| 08:35 |
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rangi |
so somehow you can elevate permissions, if you figure out how could you make me one too please :) |
| 08:35 |
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nengard |
hmmmm |
| 08:35 |
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nengard |
okay let me poke around |
| 08:35 |
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nengard |
user Chris is a an admin - or are you Chrisc |
| 08:38 |
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rangi |
umm one of them, and yeah i am admin, but only bureaucrat can do user permissions apparently |
| 08:38 |
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nengard |
rangi it's done |
| 08:38 |
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nengard |
for both |
| 08:39 |
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nengard |
I had no idea I had those special powers :) |
| 08:39 |
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rangi |
yay thanks |
| 08:39 |
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cait |
nengard: superlibrarian powers? ;) |
| 08:39 |
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nengard |
yuppers :) |
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cait |
bonjour paul_p :) |
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paul_p |
hi cait |
| 08:43 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, people. |
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mbalmer |
ola |
| 08:44 |
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mtompset |
Does this mean someone might be able to fix my wiki access? |
| 08:44 |
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cait |
we are trying... but I think we got stuck again |
| 08:44 |
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mtompset |
:) |
| 08:48 |
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mtompset |
Well, I do appreciate the efforts. |
| 08:49 |
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mtompset |
I did send an email to gmcharlt. |
| 08:49 |
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mtompset |
(his email address is on a couple of the bug reports I made) |
| 08:49 |
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mtompset |
I did mark the email read-receipt. |
| 08:49 |
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mle |
morning |
| 08:49 |
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mtompset |
But frequently people click 'no'. :( |
| 08:50 |
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rangi |
mle: i need to say thanks again for organising last night |
| 08:50 |
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cait |
hi mle :) |
| 08:50 |
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rangi |
it was fantastic |
| 08:50 |
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cait |
yeah, it was awesome |
| 08:50 |
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cait |
and thx for helping me find the right cider :) |
| 08:50 |
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mtompset |
alcoholic or non? |
| 08:50 |
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mtompset |
hard or not? |
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mtompset |
which is the right one? |
| 08:53 |
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slef |
blurgh |
| 08:53 |
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mle |
rangi ty it was my pleasure. i will forever remember the waving arms of kohacon12. ;) |
| 08:53 |
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rangi |
hehe |
| 08:53 |
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cait |
mtompset: I don't know which it was, but it was good |
| 08:53 |
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mle |
hi cait. |
| 08:54 |
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slef |
I was worried. We did not cover ourselves in singing glory before |
| 08:54 |
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rangi |
at kohacon10 |
| 08:54 |
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rangi |
:) |
| 08:54 |
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cait |
true |
| 08:54 |
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mle |
hope everyone is feelimg chipper this morning! i was tempted to do something energisimg with you all this morning! |
| 08:54 |
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cait |
you should have... |
| 08:54 |
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cait |
:) |
| 08:54 |
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cait |
there is still the hackfest... :) |
| 08:54 |
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slef |
yeah some blodger was meaning to teach us a song and slept |
| 08:55 |
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rangi |
hehe |
| 08:55 |
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cait |
who could that have been... |
| 08:55 |
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slef |
shall we ask mle to boot up hackfest? |
| 08:55 |
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cait |
what's your definition of "boot up"? |
| 08:55 |
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mtompset |
get started? |
| 08:56 |
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slef |
something energising in the mornings |
| 08:56 |
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mbalmer |
dancing the highland flinge? |
| 08:56 |
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slef |
mbalmer: ITYM flange |
| 08:56 |
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cait |
moin drojf |
| 08:56 |
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mle |
caber tossing workshop! |
| 08:56 |
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drojf |
hi #koha |
| 08:56 |
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mbalmer |
that dance folks do because of the little moskitos.. |
| 08:57 |
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mtompset |
ITYM? |
| 08:57 |
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cait |
mtompset: thx for asking that :) |
| 08:57 |
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drojf |
omg i was fast with my presentation. i hope you could understand anything |
| 08:57 |
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mbalmer |
i thing you mean |
| 08:57 |
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slef |
wahanui: ITYM is I Think You Mean |
| 08:57 |
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wahanui |
OK, slef. |
| 08:57 |
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drojf |
nice to put a timer and then don'tr look at it :D |
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cait |
heh |
| 08:57 |
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cait |
you will see the sme happening with me in wildau ;) |
| 08:57 |
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mtompset |
suatnk! :P |
| 08:58 |
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slef |
drojf: clock at the bck shows wrong time |
| 08:58 |
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mtompset |
stop using acronyms that nobody knows. ;) |
| 08:58 |
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mbalmer |
itym, i'm the young man! |
| 08:58 |
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drojf |
slef: i had a stop watch running. took 11 minutes, took 20 at the hotel ^^ |
| 08:58 |
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slef |
back |
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rangi |
drojf: it was good :) |
| 08:58 |
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slef |
typing is hard on mini keyboard |
| 08:59 |
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drojf |
rangi: thanks :) |
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drojf |
slef: where to put the presentation for the rest of the world? |
| 08:59 |
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slef |
drojf: wiki |
| 08:59 |
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mtompset |
This conversation made me think of: http://youtu.be/wvsboPUjrGc |
| 08:59 |
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cait |
i think you can link from your abstract on the wiki |
| 08:59 |
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drojf |
ah ok |
| 08:59 |
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* slef |
hides from mtompset |
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cait |
mtompset: we have t obe nice to slef |
| 09:00 |
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cait |
mtompset: he has to suffer doing all the organisation |
| 09:00 |
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slef |
I wish I could give mtompset wiki access |
| 09:00 |
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cait |
we all do... |
| 09:00 |
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slef |
but I would just fail to find time |
| 09:00 |
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mtompset |
Hey, you guys are trying. I very much appreciate that. |
| 09:00 |
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cait |
lol |
| 09:00 |
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slef |
I am very trying! |
| 09:00 |
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cait |
I dropped gmcharlt a mail too some days ago |
| 09:01 |
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cait |
no answer yet |
| 09:01 |
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cait |
perhaps we should try thd |
| 09:01 |
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mtompset |
From what I can tell in the IRC logs... I missed him by 3 minutes! |
| 09:01 |
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mtompset |
How frustrating. |
| 09:02 |
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* gmcharlt |
pops in -- not just a matter of unblocking email, going to need to figure out a way to deal with mediawiki's laxity |
| 09:02 |
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gmcharlt |
as we were in danger of getting k-c.org on spam blocks |
| 09:02 |
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slef |
can we special case approve mtompset account please? |
| 09:02 |
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* mtompset |
smiles, "Okay... I can relax now. :)" |
| 09:02 |
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cait |
hi gmcharlt |
| 09:03 |
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cait |
yes, perhaps some people could be given permission to activate user accounts? |
| 09:03 |
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mtompset |
A lot of places have a "Are you human?" box that you need to check. |
| 09:03 |
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cait |
that could work until we get a real solution again |
| 09:03 |
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mtompset |
And then some even have a simple "What is 3+4?" box. |
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slef |
bulk deleting unapproveds and switching to lots of ppl allowed to approve. maybe from irv |
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gmcharlt |
mtompset: whcih the bots have defeated |
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slef |
irc |
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gmcharlt |
slef: I agree, it's gonig to have to be manual approval |
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gmcharlt |
mtompset: what user account did you register? |
| 09:04 |
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slef |
I hate "are you human?" because most of them say I am not |
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cait |
lol |
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mtompset |
mtompset hotmail.com |
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mtompset |
I did send you an email @gmail. |
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slef |
what am I? chopped liver? |
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* slef |
rants off to his mailbox |
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gmcharlt |
mtompset: yes, I mean, what username did you assign yourself? |
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gmcharlt |
nm, found it |
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cait |
gmcharlt++ |
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mtompset |
mtompset |
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wahanui |
rumour has it mtompset is taking off |
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mtompset |
wahanui forget mtompset |
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wahanui |
mtompset: I forgot mtompset |
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gmcharlt |
wahanui: forget mtompset |
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wahanui |
gmcharlt, I didn't have anything matching mtompset |
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* mtompset |
laughs, "Great minds think alike." |
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mtompset |
What if there was an email address to which a blank message with "Register Me" as a subject line would generate the confirmation email after the user registered? Bots don't send empty emails, and they don't know the subject line, though they'd likely get the email address. |
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medmondson |
¬¬ |
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mtompset |
Are those shifty eyes? |
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medmondson |
yup |
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gmcharlt |
mtompset: ok, I think we're set up - please try registering your account again |
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mtompset |
registering? |
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mtompset |
So request? |
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gmcharlt |
yes |
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slef |
lee just made everyone close their laptops |
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slef |
so there's only the phonies like me still here |
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mtompset |
Arg! A bio of 50 words. |
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slef |
awrite about getting a login?;) |
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medmondson |
salut alex_a |
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gmcharlt |
mtompset: bio requirement removed |
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alex_a |
bonjour medmondson |
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slef |
are ppl on phones or breaking lee's rule? |
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mtompset |
Okay... it says and email has been sent to me... |
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mtompset |
Nice randomization on the math question. |
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gmcharlt |
mtompset: ok, I've approved the account -- please see if you can log in now |
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mtompset |
Hmm... no password is set... did it ask? |
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mtompset |
I must have done something wrong. |
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mtompset |
It said the username is the same as my Real Name. |
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mtompset |
but I don't think it asked for a password. |
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gmcharlt |
mtompset: hmm - I've set one for you, then |
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cait |
hi Joubu :) |
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Joubu |
hi #koha |
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Joubu |
hi cait :) |
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mtompset |
Hello all. |
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slef |
and now we've stopped torturing lee, people are allowed their laptops back |
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drojf |
heh |
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rangi |
she |
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rangi |
's brave :) |
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cait |
yep she is :) |
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slef |
hmmm you're not going to like the main answer in my talk then |
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slef |
ohhh this is going to go really badly |
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slef |
all those comments against monoliths |
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slef |
eeeeek I've misread the mood of the room |
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cait |
slef: ??? |
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slef |
cait: my talk has a Big Idea in the middle of it |
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slef |
I think people will hate it now. |
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cait |
you suggest that all libaries start using ebsco? |
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slef |
Oh well. I will walk off a cliff in front of you all. |
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slef |
No, worse. |
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cait |
uhoh |
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cait |
we all go into worldcat? |
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slef |
that is closer |
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cait |
better pack a parachute ;) |
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drojf |
lol |
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medmondson |
make sure that the camera batteries are full before your talk slef ;) |
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slef |
I think I will spend lunch time reading arguments against worldcat |
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drojf |
i vote for exlibris aleph for everybody. our university library approves :/ |
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slef |
to see if I will fall foul of the same complaints. |
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slef |
medmondson: I have 90mins to recharge them before me. |
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slef |
rangi: may I steal your TMs? |
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rangi |
go for it :) |
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slef |
I have also put "Former koha.org webmaster" in my biog |
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rangi |
heh |
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slef |
I think that is accurate, isn't it? |
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rangi |
it's entirely accurate |
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medmondson |
some folk werea asking about visiting edinburgh hacklab. Tonight is coffee and code night from about 7.30. I have sent an email to the list, to alert them to our presence, but will be suprised if we get a reply. for those that want the info: http://edinburghhacklab.com/events/ |
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mtompset |
How did you get the red underline? |
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mtompset |
gmcharlt++ |
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mtompset |
I have wiki access! YAY! |
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rangi |
medmondson: http://edinburghliterarypubtour.co.uk/ <-- this looks cheesy but fun |
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rangi |
hmm Joubu is trying to win the wine signing off patches! |
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slef |
is that starting early? |
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rangi |
yep :) |
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paul_p |
rangi = FYI = usually, from wed to friday, clrh team -joubu, julian_m and matts work for the community |
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medmondson |
rangi: Some are quite fun apparently. |
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medmondson |
rangi: it reminds me.. I was going to recommend... |
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medmondson |
http://www.realmarykingsclose.com/ |
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Joubu |
rangi: The patch was already signed-off, I updated the status. I cheated :) |
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slef |
medmondson: I think S went there yesterday. Pretty good but tour was overbooked (22) and even fully-booked (20) is a bit more than some rooms hold (maybe 15). Still interesting though. |
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rangi |
i was thinking to maybe do a highlands tour tomorrow http://www.highlandexperience.[…]s.asp?txtTour=171 |
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cait |
monsters mountains and massacres - sounds like fun :) |
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rangi |
41 pound, which is alright for me, but maybe too much for some? |
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cait |
I think would be ok for me, the nessi hunter tour is not included i think, but I would like to do it again |
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slef |
you all got your SRU questions ready? |
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rangi |
yup |
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rangi |
well eythian does |
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slef |
Scream and Run Urway |
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slef |
maybe only works in my accent |
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rangi |
heh |
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slef |
that will be more on my talk I think, once I make my suggestion |
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slef |
will you applaud or boo when I say "LibLime was right"? |
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cait |
it depends on how you explain that |
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cait |
I think |
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slef |
anyone find marcelr's library on LibraryThing? |
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paul_p |
not really clear what is included in http://www.highlandexperience.[…]s.asp?txtTour=171, or I couldn't find where it's described... |
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cait |
paul_p: read the left column down |
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paul_p |
cait = OK, we take the bus. But will there be a guide ? which language ? audio-guide in french ? lunch included for the price ? where the bus start in EDI ? |
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cait |
hm i think we came by the bus stop this morning |
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cait |
i haven't taken the tour before, I think they advertised tours in different languages, so there might be french |
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medmondson |
west highland line is truly wonderful. (go over the famous 'Harry Potter' viaduct) http://www.scotlandsforme.com/[…]raction.php?id=79 |
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rangi |
oooh |
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pastebot |
"hdl" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "clrh: rpn2solr avec sru enabled" (27 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/434 |
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nengard |
#koha folks - my mom sent me a text asking me to send you all her love :) |
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clrh |
thx hdl :) |
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rangi |
paul_p: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]i?format=advanced |
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rangi |
can you try a search in french now? |
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rangi |
or any french speaker |
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paul_p |
rangi = much better, except the "Maintenant" ( in the Entre le: field) must be removed or you get no results |
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drojf |
rangi: the highlands tour sounds nice, but does it say somewhere how long it actually takes? |
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Oak |
thank you nengard ! |
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paul_p |
it's at the wrong place = in english it's "between ______ AND Now" while in french it's "between Maintenant and _______" |
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paul_p |
drojf = on the right "start 8AM, back around 7PM" |
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drojf |
ah, i'm just blind, thanks |
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drojf |
we would be able to see nessy… |
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rangi |
8am to 7.30pm drojf |
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rangi |
(there are a few different ones tho, shorter and longer) |
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rangi |
paul_p: ahh ill take that out |
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cait |
varying in prices too |
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eythian |
rangi: the literary pub tour started at 7.30 didn't it? |
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rangi |
i think so |
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mbalmer |
literary pub tour? |
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eythian |
I think it's a pub crawl with a pretence of culture. Exactly my sort of thing! |
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matts |
^^ |
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mbalmer |
tonight? |
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wahanui |
tonight is probably 23rd :) |
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eythian |
Not sure. |
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cait |
forget nonight |
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cait |
forget tonight |
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wahanui |
cait: I forgot tonight |
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drojf |
hm if tour starts at 8am i would not get any breakfast |
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rangi |
i have the brochure for the pub tour by me |
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mbalmer |
so pub stroll tomorrow night? |
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cait |
drojf: grab something on the way? ask for a lunchpack? ;) |
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eythian |
http://www.edinburghliterarypu[…]k/pub_details.php <-- every night |
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medmondson |
pubs on Friday night will be very busy |
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mbalmer |
I see |
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drojf |
cait: they can pack the cooked breakfast :D |
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mtompset |
Wow, that was a serioud read to catch up. |
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mtompset |
serious... |
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cait |
i am sure they can... |
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rangi |
paul_p: is the default removed now? |
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paul_p |
rangi = yes, it work fine now ! |
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eythian |
> Did you know that Edinburgh has more pubs per square mile than any other city in Europe? |
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eythian |
excellent! |
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drojf |
<3 edinburgh |
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clrh |
rangi: today the layer provides ability to plug whatever you want - the purpose now is not really solr but adapting/refactoring zebra part - I hope I'll take time to explain during hackfest :) |
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cait |
clrh: :) |
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rangi |
w00t |
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rangi |
clrh++ |
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mtompset |
refactoring? |
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wahanui |
refactoring is not rewriting it is abstracting. |
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cait |
clrh++ :) |
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clrh |
stefano++ too happy to see his work |
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rangi |
clrh: that sounds really great |
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rangi |
yes |
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rangi |
stefano++ |
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mtompset |
So, providing a friendlier API? |
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cait |
lunch break here |
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cait |
we will be back :) |
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clrh |
mtompset: sorry I don't know you, are you in edimbourg? |
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clrh |
api exists it can be enhanced (<- can I say that?) |
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clrh |
we'll have lunch, see you |
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medmondson |
pub: http://www.beerintheevening.co[…]gda_Bar/Edinburgh very close to teviot and one of the cheapest in Edinburgh. very popular with real locals |
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medmondson |
s/'real locals'/my friends |
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mtompset |
No, I am not. |
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mtompset |
Sorry for a slow reply. |
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mtompset |
A friendlier API on top of the existing one. |
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mtompset |
Hey, jcamins. |
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wahanui |
jcamins is probably an outstanding cook, well-traveled and brilliant, trying to think of a solution, or the wizard that forges queries in the deep fires of zebra or an authorities expert |
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mtompset |
mtompset |
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wahanui |
you are not. |
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mtompset |
wahanui |
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wahanui |
mtompset? |
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mtompset |
wahanui? |
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wahanui |
mtompset? |
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mtompset |
slef? |
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wahanui |
slef is not at home so please email kohacon12 AT software.coop instead |
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jcamins |
mtompset? |
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wahanui |
i guess mtompset is not. |
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jcamins |
wahanui? |
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wahanui |
yes, jcamins? |
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jcamins |
Huh. "Wahanui" used to have a response like "wahanui is little yet. He needs to learn more. :)" |
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mtompset |
How is it that you got such a colourful descriptor, jcamins? |
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jcamins |
mtompset: it used to be a lot more colorful. |
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mtompset |
jcamins? |
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wahanui |
jcamins is an outstanding cook, well-traveled and brilliant, trying to think of a solution, or the wizard that forges queries in the deep fires of zebra or an authorities expert |
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* jcamins |
looks for an example. |
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mtompset |
who would want to forge queries in the deep fires of zebra? |
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pastebot |
"jcamins" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "What wahanui used to know about me" (1 line) at http://paste.koha-community.org/435 |
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jcamins |
mtompset: I can't say I'd like to, but I don't really have much of a choice. |
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jcamins |
;) |
| 11:54 |
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mtompset |
okay, that makes sense. |
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mtompset |
On a positive note... I got wiki access today! |
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jcamins |
I think cait did the "jcamins is an outstanding cook," then various people added the other bits, and I revised it to use commas instead of ". or" a few months ago. |
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jcamins |
Yay! |
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mtompset |
I've already added a slew of discussion notes to the koha on ubuntu page. |
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mtompset |
I figured since I've never edited a page, I'll let someone else do that. |
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jcamins |
No, you should go ahead and edit the pages. :) |
| 11:57 |
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jcamins |
It's very easy. |
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mtompset |
I'm worried about busting ir. |
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mtompset |
it |
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jcamins |
You won't. |
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jcamins |
And, if you accidentally screw things up, the change can be reverted. |
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medmondson |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Be_bold |
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jcamins |
Exactly. |
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mtompset |
I can't seem to get that link to work, medmondson. |
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mtompset |
Is there a back up somewhere? |
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jcamins |
mtompset: I will summarize: "Be bold and edit those wiki pages!: |
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jcamins |
*" |
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medmondson |
hmm I wonder what is wrong with that URL |
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jcamins |
It worked for me. |
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mtompset |
I get timeout errors. |
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medmondson |
well its a common wiki principle |
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medmondson |
be bold, revert is easy |
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medmondson |
the wikipedia URL is a bit too wikipedia specific anyhow |
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mtompset |
okay... I'm editing... it's just that maybe someone has a love of unp over tar -xvf |
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mtompset |
This is scary... so much change in a single edit. |
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rangi |
jcamins: apparently sip is not working :( can you phone in? or would irc work for questions |
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rangi |
we can put it on the big screen |
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rangi |
and relay questions to you |
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jcamins |
I can phone in. |
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jcamins |
Or at least try. :) |
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jcamins |
If not, IRC will work just fine too. |
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jcamins |
I'll just need the phone-in number. |
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rangi |
jcamins: eythian is just checking his plan, he thinks he might have cheap international calling |
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rangi |
(we bought O2 simcards) |
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rangi |
so potentially we could call you too |
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jcamins |
I have a calling card which I can combine with VoIP for absurdly low rates. :) |
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rangi |
ahh sweet |
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clrh |
is there a place to share the slides? wiki? |
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rangi |
yep, people have been linking them to their abstracts/talks there |
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cait |
clrh: yep - the wiki woudl be good, on the page with the abstracts |
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eythian |
can we upload to the wiki? |
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* eythian |
finds out |
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rangi |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ohaCon12_Schedule |
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cait |
eythian: I think we should be able to, nicole linked her abstracts in, not sure how she did it |
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eythian |
You can attach files in the wiki, use the "media files" button. |
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eythian |
at least, I think it's working... |
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mtompset |
GAH! |
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mtompset |
My login timed out, and all my lovely edits were lost. |
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jcamins |
mtompset: if you hit back quickly, you may not have lost them. |
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mtompset |
Yes, this means I have Wiki access. :) |
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mtompset |
Wasn't fast enough. |
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mtompset |
:( |
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mtompset |
Okay, smaller edits. |
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mtompset |
So this doesn't happen again. |
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mtompset |
Good thing a large section was in the discussion page. :) |
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mtompset |
ARG! Let's try again... editing the wiki is a pain. |
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eythian |
hmm, I appear to not be able to attach the file. |
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eythian |
it just sites there trying to upload forever |
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clrh |
cait: here ? http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ohaCon12_Schedule ok |
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cait |
yes |
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cait |
hope the uploading works, if not, we will try to figure out something else |
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* eythian |
will just link from somewhere else |
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mtompset |
AH! I hit the wrong key and logged out. |
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eythian |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]igrating_to_Koha_.2860_min.29 <-- my slides are linked from here now |
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cait |
thx eythian - eythian++ |
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cait |
and ++ for all other speakers linking their slides :) |
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cait |
rangi+ |
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cait |
rangi++ even |
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rangi |
hmm? |
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mtompset |
Okay... calmer.... wiki edits are ugly, but made it there. |
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cait |
rangi: linking your presentations |
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rangi |
ahh |
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jwagner |
slef or cait, can you link my presentation? |
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cait |
do you have a link to the slides? |
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jwagner |
slef asked me to put it online last week, so it's at http://www.koha.org/library/re[…]DoWhenTheySay.pdf |
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slef |
I'm about to present. Paralysed by fear, as always before I do anything in public |
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cait |
you will do fine |
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cait |
eat some chocolate :P |
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rangi |
you'll be fine |
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cait |
ok, that was mean |
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dpavlin |
slef: don't worry, you are among frineds here :-) |
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slef |
cait: you'll be forcing me chocolate after this! |
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cait |
slef: hm? |
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eythian |
/msg dpavlin you've got the mean songs memorised? |
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cait |
jwagner: it's done, please check it works |
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cait |
slef: perhaps we should get and store all slides somewhere - itwould be nice to have all files in the same place somewhere |
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jwagner |
cait, looks fine, thanks |
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eythian |
cait: ideally you'd upload them to the wiki |
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eythian |
it's just not working for some reason |
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eythian |
(for me, anyway) |
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cait |
I think brooke reported that in the past but were not able to replicate |
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jwagner |
I noticed the other day that the schedule on the wiki wasn't the same as on k-c.org -- which one is the "final" version? |
| 13:21 |
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cait |
ah, there should be no schedule on the wiki now |
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cait |
I removed it because both tables got out of sync with changes being made |
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cait |
I am going to give uploading files another try |
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dpavlin |
eythian: I'm not sure I know what wean songs you are refering to? From yesteday? |
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drojf |
cait: seen http://fudgehouse.co.uk/ ? |
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wahanui |
I haven't seen 'http://fudgehouse.co.uk/', drojf |
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eythian |
dpavlin: for singing when slef is presen...never mind, explaining a joke kills it :) |
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jcamins |
TIRTMI! |
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jcamins |
Ohhh. |
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jcamins |
Yeah, that's a good shop. |
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jcamins |
They used to have little samples out. :) |
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slef |
everyone ask lots |
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dpavlin |
eythian: I though that mumble, mumble, grrr, grrr sounds should be enough :-) |
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slef |
you have 35mins to fill |
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slef |
store place good idea |
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drojf |
slef: you've been an excellent host/ presenter so far, don't worry, all will be fine |
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slef |
drojf: awww you're so kind |
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slef |
cmon, 30mins more |
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slef |
get me out of talking |
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jwagner |
slef, There Is No Escape |
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slef |
jwagner: phone in with a q for gbenga |
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jwagner |
? |
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slef |
(joke...it is not wired in just now) |
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drojf |
eythian: your latex file would give less errors if there were the graphics too ;) |
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slef |
if ppl ask 30mins of questions, we run out of time for me |
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jwagner |
You'll do fine :-) |
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drojf |
slef: we will stay longer for you, don't worry :P |
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cait |
ok |
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cait |
I can upload pdf files to the wiki |
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cait |
going to try eythian's presentation next |
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marcelr |
pdf works, ppt does not |
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dpavlin |
start singing, now! |
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eythian |
drojf: yeah, but there's really not much point in including the graphics, most of it is company logo stuff |
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drojf |
eythian: yeah just saw that. company and koha logo |
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drojf |
for the bullets |
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eythian |
yeah |
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* mtompset |
cringes at the mention of LaTeX. |
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* libsysguy |
was reading the devel email about scoreboard and wonders how many kittens sekjal and the rest of the QA team have killed |
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drojf |
mtompset: why is that? |
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cait |
ok |
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cait |
uploading files works - please don't check categories! |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: there's a saved search for Failed QA. |
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cait |
I think that might be the problem |
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cait |
don't check categories when uploading files |
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eythian |
mtompset: are you some kind of heathen perhaps? |
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* sekjal |
is actually Dothraki for 'killer of kittens' |
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libsysguy |
touche sekjal |
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marcelr |
libsysguy: you really should hate cats before joining qa team ;) |
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rangi |
hehe |
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jcamins |
Pixel says you're all heathens, and now he's going to hide in a corner. |
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mtompset |
LaTeX is not user friendly. |
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marcelr |
heathens? |
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mtompset |
Powerful. |
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mtompset |
Useful. |
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drojf |
mtompset: i'm a user, it's friendly to me |
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jcamins |
marcelr: yes, you hate cats. |
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drojf |
way more friendly than a word processor ;) |
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mtompset |
When did you first interact with it? |
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jcamins |
mtompset: *TeX* is user-unfriendly. LaTeX isn't too bad. |
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* jcamins |
doesn't do TeX. |
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drojf |
a few years ago |
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mtompset |
I had bad experiences from the 90's. :P |
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drojf |
i bet word processors were even worse then :P |
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mtompset |
I'm sure GUI front-ends have improved. |
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mtompset |
Imagine having to deal with it in a text-only hand-code environment. |
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mtompset |
Unless you know it well, it's ugly. |
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mtompset |
Though, I'll still use it for generating PDF output. ;) |
| 13:45 |
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mtompset |
Back to wiki edit's before I lose them again. |
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jcamins |
Only seven bugs left to report and assign to myself. |
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mtompset |
isn't that a conflict of interest? ;) |
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jcamins |
mtompset: nah, it's a conflict of interest if I try to claim that my testing is sufficient to conclude that the fixes resolve the bugs. |
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clrh |
rfc++ for a start for documenting feature and test cases (before push) cc nengard |
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rangi |
favourite slide so far |
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eythian |
mtompset: I wrote it in vim, also not user friendly. |
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jcamins |
We report bugs/enhancements for things we're working on so that people know what's going on. |
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jcamins |
clrh: yes, I'll be posting the detailed RFC to the wiki. |
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talljoy |
these sci fi references are over my head rangi |
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eythian |
but both are very fast and efficient, which is what I cared about. |
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jcamins |
Ooh, sci fi references? :) |
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rangi |
thats boba fett, a bounty hunter :) |
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talljoy |
is that a dalek, starwars or startrek |
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rangi |
starwars |
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jcamins |
However, I use bug numbers for tracking. |
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talljoy |
lol...oh. i should have recognized from the boys lego sets. |
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cait |
heh |
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schuster |
What a day yesterday was I hope today will be more successful! In moving back to community things have been a little bumpy on our own. |
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schuster |
I've had issues mainly with the indexer sucking up disk space... But I did a test search in Staff and it works, but when I do a test search in Pac I get no items found. any suggestions? |
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jcamins |
faq? |
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wahanui |
rumour has it faq is found at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/ |
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jcamins |
^^ there is a question about that problem. :) |
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jcamins |
I think it's opachiddenitems. |
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cait |
schuster: which index tool are you using? |
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schuster |
zebra. |
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eythian |
or opacsuppresssomething |
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mtompset |
dalek is from Dr. Who, talljoy. |
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schuster |
When I look in the Koha_opac_error_log I see this - opac-search.pl: accept_language(x,y) called with no clientPreferences (x). at /home/koha/kohaclone//C4/Templates.pm line 331 |
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mtompset |
I have a bunch of those flooding my logs too. |
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schuster |
something about language? but I see that double // in front of the C4 which makes me concerned. |
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jcamins |
schuster: you may need to clear your cookies. |
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schuster |
mmm chocolate ones... Ok will try. |
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mtompset |
Though, it's for the staff client. |
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schuster |
Why would you have those errors in koha-opac-error_log from staff client? |
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mtompset |
no, the accept_language(x,y) mess. |
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mtompset |
its in my koha-error_log |
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mtompset |
I remember tracing it down. |
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mtompset |
but I forget what it was. |
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mtompset |
too mant late nights. |
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wizzyrea |
patch or it didn't happen ;) |
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mtompset |
^mant^many^ |
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jcamins |
Hm. I think I may add a "C & P Authorities Improvements" meta-bug. |
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schuster |
So I turned on the language piece in I8L or whatever that tab is and now get this error - opac-search.pl: Use of uninitialized value $lang in string eq at /home/koha/kohaclone//C4/Templates.pm line 336. |
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schuster |
But where do I select the language? |
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samuel |
hi everybody |
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mtompset |
What version are you running, Schuster? |
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wizzyrea |
hi samuel |
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wizzyrea |
the second question? |
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wahanui |
the second question is "What is the exact error message?" |
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wizzyrea |
the third question? |
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wahanui |
somebody said the third question was "What version of Koha are you using?" http://koha-community.org/faq/[…]ion-koha-running/ |
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schuster |
3.06.05 |
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mtompset |
the first question? |
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wahanui |
"What are you trying to do?" "What is the goal?" or "What problem are you experiencing?" |
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mtompset |
That's three questions. :P |
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eythian |
they have "or" |
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* wizzyrea |
waves at eythian |
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* wizzyrea |
grins |
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schuster |
3.06.04.000 - actually |
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schuster |
Even though I downloaded from the website 3.06.05??? |
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jcamins |
schuster: 3.6.5 was up. |
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jcamins |
Still is. |
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jcamins |
Odd. |
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* jcamins |
will check what's in there. |
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wizzyrea |
perhaps bug 7874? |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7874 minor, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Stable , Templates::get_language generates lots of not defined warnings |
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jcamins |
It's 3.6.5. |
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wizzyrea |
the patch for that is in 3.6.5, but schuster says he has 3.6.4 |
| 14:33 |
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wizzyrea |
or the version is reporting 3.6.4 |
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schuster |
OK step back jcamins wins!!! Evidently in the upgrade it changed the default from Don't Hide to Hide! |
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schuster |
OpacSupression... |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: no, I mean, the file labeled 3.6.5 is, in fact, 3.6.5. |
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schuster |
whew... |
| 14:34 |
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wizzyrea |
! that doesn't seem right schuster. |
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jcamins |
So you might want to re-download 3.6.5, and upgrade to that right away. |
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schuster |
On May 25th I downloaded 3.6.5 from the website and what my about is saying I have 3.6.4 |
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jcamins |
schuster: okay, that's weird... |
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wizzyrea |
link wrong maybe? |
| 14:35 |
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jcamins |
Yeah, I think so. |
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schuster |
OK - well I'm in the middle of my migration to community and have had a few headaches along the way... So I will "redownload" 3.6.5 soon once I can show it is up and running! |
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wizzyrea |
hm looks ok |
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wizzyrea |
i wonder if schuster downloaded it in that magic moment in between when the file was uploaded and the link was changed |
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schuster |
I downloaded the 3.06.05.tar.gz version. |
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wizzyrea |
i.e. coincidence of timing |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: yeah, that would make sense. |
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schuster |
My luck of course... |
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wizzyrea |
do you still have the file? |
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schuster |
Ah let me look |
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schuster |
yes I do what do you want to know about it? |
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wizzyrea |
it says 3.06.05? |
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wizzyrea |
.tar.gz? |
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schuster |
yep - koha-3.06.05.tar.gz |
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wizzyrea |
ok that's odd |
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mtompset |
Why is that odd? |
| 14:43 |
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wizzyrea |
because his install reports it's 3.6.4 |
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mtompset |
the unpacked directory and the installed directory aren't the same on a standard installation. |
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wizzyrea |
yes, thanks. I'm making some assumptions that the upgrade itself was completed correctly |
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jcamins |
mtompset: yeah, but if you installed from the 3.6.5 tgz, you should end up with the same version. |
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wizzyrea |
since he said he upgraded it |
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wizzyrea |
it could be that the upgrade itself wasn't completed correctly, and that's why there is a discrepancy |
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SJeffery |
Can anyone confirm that the 008 date fields are NOT used for a general search, but is used when performing an advanced search by date? |
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jcamins |
SJeffery: that is correct. |
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jcamins |
C4::Search-- |
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rangi |
jcamins: people are coming back in |
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jcamins |
Not long now. The recorded bit is about ten minutes, and then I'll call in for questions. |
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rangi |
so i think we will be starting in a few |
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clrh |
do you use the term "lis" for library and information science ? I was looking for a name for a twitter list for people related to ils libraries and job related |
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rangi |
yep, that seems to be the common one clrh |
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clrh |
great! |
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SJeffery |
Is there documentation on which MARC fields are searched by each search box/method? |
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jcamins |
SJeffery: there is an out of date table. |
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jcamins |
Somewhere... |
| 14:52 |
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SJeffery |
Out of date? *prods nicole* |
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jcamins |
http://manual.koha-community.o[…]xes.html#id605897 |
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jcamins |
See, what we really need is something that will automatically generate a listing. |
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jcamins |
That would be a prime example of something that the GRS-1 configuration files do not lend themselves to. |
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jcamins |
DOM, on the other hand, will make that easy. |
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mtompset |
Actually, would the install/upgrade fail if there were missing dependencies? |
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schuster |
I would swear it gave me the report that 3.6.5 was complete, but it is working and I need it "semi" stable before I do ANYTHING to it again... It has been a rough 3 days. |
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mtompset |
I'm curious as to the output of ./koha_perl_deps.pl -m |
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jcamins |
mtompset: nope. |
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eythian |
jcamins: you're almost on :) |
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jcamins |
Yay! |
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mtompset |
AS opposed to being off. ;) |
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jcamins |
I should warn you there are about two and a half seconds of silence at the beginning of the presentation. |
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jcamins |
I couldn't tell if it was recording. |
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pastebot |
"samuel" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "ldap, problems of mapping" (25 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/436 |
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jcamins |
I also apologize if I talked too fast. |
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eythian |
jcamins: slef says thanks for that, it lets him move the video on the screen |
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eythian |
also that your slides will probably get changed at all the wrong moments :) |
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jcamins |
eythian: that's okay. |
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mtompset |
Well, I'm off. Sounds like I'll miss some fun. |
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cait |
jcamins: you are being announced now |
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* mtompset |
waves bye. |
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cait |
*applause* |
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eythian |
huh, so that's what jcamins looks like... |
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cait |
video is on |
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* eythian |
should pay attention to this |
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eythian |
given I'm always asking about it |
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drojf |
now that i know how to do it i get several presentations about it |
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drojf |
:P |
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* chris_n |
cheers jcamins |
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SJeffery |
Is there a live stream of this anywhere? |
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* cait |
cheers too |
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drojf |
SJeffery: don't think so |
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jcamins |
SJeffery: there is not. However, my presentation is easy to see. |
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drojf |
you will be able to download it later i guess |
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cait |
SJeffery: I think the recordings will be available after the conference |
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jcamins |
I'm e-mailing you the links. |
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rangi |
its going well |
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jcamins |
I kept it very short since I'm about the last presentation on the last day. I figure I can answer as many questions as people have, but I didn't want to push it. |
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jcamins |
SJeffery: I just sent you the links to my presentation, which actually comes in two parts thanks to my impatience with video editing. |
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jcamins |
I think the MPG should play fine with Windows Media Player. |
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SJeffery |
Works:) |
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jcamins |
Errr, it sounds like some of the middle slides are missing. |
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jcamins |
Sorry about that. |
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jcamins |
I think the missing ones were mostly charts of things to think about. |
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jcamins |
I'll upload those a bit later. |
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mbalmer |
re-ola |
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* SJeffery |
just noticed that secontrolnumber is off....that explains a few things |
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cait |
*applause* |
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cait |
time for questions |
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* jcamins |
dials in. |
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rangi |
thanks jcamins |
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rangi |
that was really good |
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jcamins |
My pleasure. |
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david_ |
*virtual applause* |
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marcelr |
jcamins++ |
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cait |
yep it was |
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eythian |
jcamins: I hope you'll like your video and slides from the wiki |
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cait |
jcamins++ |
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eythian |
it'd be handy to send to people asking about it |
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eythian |
*link |
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jcamins |
eythian: yeah. |
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jcamins |
I had some issues with transcoding, so I didn't manage to upload the files to their final resting place yet. |
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eythian |
ah right |
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jcamins |
tajoli++ # for sending me a copy of his presentation. |
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paul_p |
drupal-opac URL = http://drupal.org/node/1570804 |
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cait |
debian packages? |
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wahanui |
debian packages are at debian.koha-community.org |
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cait |
packages? |
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wahanui |
somebody said packages was at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
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jcamins |
Bug 8212 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8212 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Omnibus bug report for C & P authority developments |
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talljoy1 |
jcamins. good presentation. I liked the funny pause in the middle. And no worries, we heard every word. ;-) |
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jcamins |
talljoy1: I realized after getting through the first part that I wasn't actually sure if I'd managed to record it. |
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jcamins |
So I stopped it to check. |
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jcamins |
Then I couldn't figure out how to resume recording. |
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jcamins |
So I just started a new clip. |
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talljoy1 |
whatever works, right? |
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rangi |
cait: https://launchpad.net/~chris-b[…]/3.8.x-dailybuild |
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cait |
thx |
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* jcamins |
munches on a couple of German biscotti. |
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* talljoy1 |
looks for biscotti <.< >.> |
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jcamins |
clrh: around? |
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marcelr |
1,5m before me; listening :-) |
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clrh |
jcamins: yep! |
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jcamins |
marcelr: oh, I thought I was the very last presentation. Guess I got confused. |
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jcamins |
clrh: I wanted to let you know that as part of bug 7417 and bug 8211 I'll be doing more clean up of C4::Search, moving things over to Koha::Search::Engine. |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7417 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, NEW , Include alternate forms from authorities in bibliographic searches |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8211 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Add "subject (broader)," "subject (narrower)," and "subject (related)" options for search |
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jcamins |
Oops, need to adjust 7417 to ASSIGNED. |
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clrh |
jcamins: great, I have to share last works we done with you and others at hackfest |
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mbalmer |
biblibre++ for the Drupal module! |
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clrh |
juste "moving" can be not suffisant |
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clrh |
suffisant = enougth(sorry) |
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jcamins |
clrh: sufficient is an English word too. :) |
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jcamins |
clrh: I'm not *just* moving. |
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clrh |
:) |
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jcamins |
In order to move code to Koha::Search, it has to be cleaned up a lot, or it won't work in its new home. |
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clrh |
jcamins: ++ |
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clrh |
clean clean ;) |
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jcamins |
I am not entirely rewriting C4::Search, but better to have somewhat icky (but not as icky as what we have now!) code in Koha:: and the ability to introduce solr, than wait until someone has the time to entirely rewrite the Zebra interface. |
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clrh |
ô icky new word for me :) |
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wizzyrea |
so when you need to explain the internet to people, you can use this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?f[…]ded&v=WwyJGzZmBe8 |
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jcamins |
clrh: disgusting/ugly/bad. |
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clrh |
yep I saw |
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clrh |
but why cleaning it into Koha:: and not C4:: for the moment? |
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eythian |
http://www.amazon.com/Story-Ab[…]ack/dp/0140502416 <-- wizzyrea, also this book |
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wizzyrea |
:P |
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jcamins |
clrh: because we want to separate the code. |
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marcelr |
kohacon12 closed |
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rangi |
now we have to figure out what we are doing tonight |
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jcamins |
clrh: we could create a C4::Search::Engine* but that would just make things even messier, and wouldn't reduce circular dependencies. |
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wizzyrea |
pubs! |
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mbalmer |
pubs |
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mbalmer |
more pubs |
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wizzyrea |
maybe some pubs. |
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clrh |
yes but if you write into Koha:: you/we will maybe have to rewrite it |
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jcamins |
clrh: if I write into C4, it'll still have to be rewritten. |
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SJeffery |
jcamins: Very nice presentation |
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jcamins |
clrh: my goal is to have things work, improve the quality of the code, and get solr into 3.12, if not 3.10. |
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jcamins |
SJeffery: thanks. |
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jcamins |
clrh: I have funding to do some work now. I think it's better to do it right from the start. |
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jcamins |
If we use C4::Search::Engine, that means we'll have to use C4::Search. |
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jcamins |
Which means that we will have to load the entire C4:: menagerie every time we want to do a search. |
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jcamins |
I'd rather clean up some code as part of this project, but if you're planning on doing all the refactoring, I can leave it as it is in C4. ;) |
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jcamins |
(I mean, not you personally, that would be too much... just if you had a plan for it all) |
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Joubu |
Drink for me at pubs ! |
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Joubu |
bye |
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jcamins |
Enjoy the pubbing. :) |
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hdl1 |
jcamins: any RFC link for C&P devs ? |
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jcamins |
hdl1: not yet. I'll be sending them out shortly. |
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jcamins |
Well, probably tomorrow. |
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clrh |
(sorry jcamins I am talking with Stefano) |
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jcamins |
clrh: no problem. :) |
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clrh |
ok jcamins I read |
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clrh |
I will share you the result of hackfest :) |
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clrh |
we will drink and eat and |
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clrh |
have a good evening |
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jcamins |
ENjoy. |
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jcamins |
*Enjoy |
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slef |
ta jcamins_away |
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Morthland |
Is there a way to add a font to the patron card creator? |
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SJeffery |
Did anyone ever get around to arrange a Koha users gathering at ALA? |
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slef |
SJeffery: is ALA now? |
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SJeffery |
It starts about the 21st |
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rangi |
Thanks slef |
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slef |
rangi: np. did you want the o2 leaflet too? |
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slef |
rangi: lucky you stuck it to something with your number on ;) |
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rangi |
Yeah! |
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slef |
SJeffery: ah then I've not seen nothing yet |
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mle |
back to teviot soon. anupne there? |
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mle |
slef where are you at? ia anyone about |
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SJeffery |
Maybe we could get one of the vendors to organize it? *prods bywater* |
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slef |
mle: soory no... doctors may contain nuts |
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slef |
SJeffery: I think we distracted bywater with kohacon12. Try asking NateC when he says hi or use @later tell NateC whatever |
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slef |
SJeffery: why don't the users organise users meetups? |
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* slef |
is ignorant co-op worker |
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SJeffery |
For the usual reason: lack of time/ability/desire to organize it :) |
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slef |
sooo if there is not enough desire, why would a vendor...? |
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wizzyrea |
if you have no desire to organize it why would anyone attend? |
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SJeffery |
On the part of the individual, not the collective group...someone always has to spend the time |
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slef |
so club together, hire a vendor to organise it? |
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slef |
else you all just pay more for them to gamble |
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slef |
and get less say about the meeting |
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* wizzyrea |
is not going to ALA this year |
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SJeffery |
I can put something together in the next few days...probably something along the lines of "get together this or that room/location and chat about Koha" |
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slef |
but I don't know... all these library confs seem like they overcharge vendors who then just overcharge libraries... |
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SJeffery |
so true |
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* wizzyrea |
would probably find a restaurant and enjoy talking about koha with food and booze. |
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slef |
ah so is there no charge from ALA for the meetup? |
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mle |
anyone still in town? |
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SJeffery |
IIRC ala is something like $10k/booth |
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slef |
mle: probably |
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wizzyrea |
slef: not if you do the meetup in the hallway track :P |
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SJeffery |
Right, I was thinking something informal to just allow people to get together and hang out |
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* mle |
wonders where |
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wahanui |
wonders is it is too early on Sunday for Koha db questions? lol |
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slef |
I have rangi's number but I'm sure he is doing a beer tour starting at the beehive (?) 1930 and they maxed out the number of free places |
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mle |
slef ty for taking the eusa laptop |
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* mle |
goes home |
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slef |
mle: tried the doctors? |
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slef |
I think the hard part is in town AND online |
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slef |
wahanui: it is far too early on Sunday |
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wahanui |
...but it is confusing for someone to be working on a bug and the assignee field is either wrong or blank... |
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wizzyrea |
forget it |
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wahanui |
wizzyrea: I forgot it |
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slef |
wahanui: I don't care! |
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wahanui |
slef: sorry... |
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slef |
wizzyrea: you brain surgeon you |
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bag |
yup ALA charges if you want a meeting room |
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bag |
I won't be attending ALA.. |
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bag |
The best way is to have a meetup at a pub ;) |
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slef |
mle: soooo... I suggested the koha vendors needed to merge or form a cartel... and they laughed at me :/ |
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bag |
There is some money left over from Kudos conference - That vtl was thinking about using to have a little get together (but I don't know the status of that) |
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bag |
schuster may have a better idea on that too |
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slef |
bag: and then you have to charge libraries more and then libraries have to cut costs and close branches and fire librarians... and who is ALA meant to be helping exactly? |
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mle |
just laughed or did you manage to ellicita reason? |
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bag |
I agree slef |
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bag |
seems to be helping themselves (ALA that is) |
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slef |
mle: just laughed at that bit... but we got reactions later |
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slef |
bag: librarians, please take control of your association? |
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bag |
PLEASE |
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slef |
it's very tempting to say that loudly... but also damaging to one's own business :( |
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mle |
slef it needs to be said/suggested in a low threatening manner |
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slef |
mle: yeah I'm as subtle as a molotov |
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bag |
I don't totally agree… we're not like other vendors - librarians are the star… ALA was great to attend when I worked the circ desk, etc… |
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bag |
but now you've summed it up well… more librarian control ;) |
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mle |
bag: ok how to get there? |
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slef |
I guess there are pro managers at ALA |
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bag |
ALA has pro managers (field officers I think they are called)…. Most of the round tables and actual talks/programs are mostly librarian run.. |
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bag |
BUT ALA does have a bottomline number they need to keep up ;) |
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wizzyrea |
I'm sure running the conference itself isn't cheap. |
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slef |
wizzyrea: who knows? Do ALA members see the conference budget afterwards? |
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slef |
or any summary of it, more likely |
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slef |
you don't need to know that someone paid £10 for a last-minute box of paperclips because they were lost in transit |
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wizzyrea |
don't get me wrong I'm not defending it |
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mle |
i reckon we could do a green version in a big tent and make it fun, green and cheap. |
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slef |
you do need to know how much the conference is taking out of libraries |
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slef |
mle: kohacon 2022? |
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mle |
no silly hotel costs |
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slef |
mle: silly heater costs? Have you seen the weather outside? |
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* slef |
waits for the gag about slef and hot air... |
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mle |
http://www.greenandaway.org/pa[…]fm?pageid=ga-home |
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* slef |
is happily disappointed |
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jwagner |
slef, wait for it.... |
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slef |
so who runs ALA? Librarians or officers? |
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mle |
i met investment banker who was raving about a connference he went to at green and awY. he had never slept i a tent before |
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slef |
yeah not sure I have since I was 7... I should not be so negative |
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mle |
quote they even had shpwers in a tent. |
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mle |
anyhow... bbl |
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wizzyrea |
http://www.ala.org/aboutala/mi[…]onhistory/history |
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slef |
tata |
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wizzyrea |
haha |
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wizzyrea |
The aim of the Association, in that resolution, was "to enable librarians to do their present work more easily and at less expense." |
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wizzyrea |
ohh kayyy |
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slef |
is that glamping |
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slef |
wizzyrea: yeah and in reality? ;) |
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mleaway |
uberglamping |
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wizzyrea |
"to give librarians a chance to look and feel important in the presence of their peers?" |
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slef |
wizzyrea: I can point to co-ops that say one thing and maybe do another |
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* wizzyrea |
is a terrible cynic |
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wizzyrea |
anyway bye ;) |
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slef |
ok ttfn wizzyrea |
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wajasu |
when doing a git dev install, for v3.08.01 i get DateTime::TimeZone 1.26 module required, and I have 1.20. What is the best what to get the 1.26 version? cpan? or deb pkg from? |
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wajasu |
i did a git -b my381 v3.08.01 to hopefully be alligned with debian squeeze. i already have the koha-common pkg installed. |
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libsysguy |
how did you install it the first time wajasu? |
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wajasu |
i build a virgin debian vm. i installed apt-get install koha-common and editing and things worked. now i did a git clone, and want to do perl Makefile.PL |
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wajasu |
makefile.PL reports that I need 1.26. I used the debian netinst ISO. |
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wajasu |
should i had the debian wheezy repo and do apt-cache libdatetime-perl then apt-get install libdatetime-perl=1.26 (or 1.46)? |
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wajasu |
or should i add the squeeze-dev repo? |
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wajasu |
squuze-dev is technically pre wheezy i think. |
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wizzyrea |
you can't apt-get install libdatetime-timezone-perl |
| 20:21 |
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wizzyrea |
oh nm you said it's got a version mismatch |
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wajasu |
yeah |
| 20:26 |
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wajasu |
i just wonder what repo has version 1.26 and why my git -b my381 v3.08.01 working branch requires it to build. |
| 20:26 |
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dpavlin |
I'm running on squeeze using DateTime::TimeZone 1.20 |
| 20:27 |
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wizzyrea |
yea, same |
| 20:27 |
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wizzyrea |
typo maybe? |
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dpavlin |
http://cpansearch.perl.org/src[…]Zone-1.46/Changes doesn't list anything which I should be warried about between 1.20 and 1.26 ;-) |
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dpavlin |
It's hard to say. Dependecy was introduced in Bug 5549 together with bunch of others... |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, chris, Pushed to Stable , Hourly Loans |
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* dpavlin |
hm! It seems that commit message (which I got using git blame C4/Installer/PerlDependencies.pm) references wrong bug... |
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dpavlin |
Anyhow, I would probably decreate version to 1.20 to make squeeze happy (see git show c82d114f) |
| 20:35 |
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dpavlin |
s/decreate/decrease/ |
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wajasu |
i'll go that route. |
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wizzyrea |
imagemagick? |
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wizzyrea |
graphicsmagick? |
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wahanui |
graphicsmagick is, like, avaliable in package form for the following Operating Systems: Version 1.1.11 in Lenny, 1.3.12 in Squeeze, 1.3.5 in Sid and Ubuntu Lucid. Regarding the update message, all Koha functions still work even if you only have Version 1.1.11 |
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wizzyrea |
see, there's a version mismatch here too, but everything still works |
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wizzyrea |
and there was a bit of an outrage over lowering the versoin. |
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wizzyrea |
version. |
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wahanui |
hmmm... version is wrong |
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wizzyrea |
forget version |
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wahanui |
wizzyrea: I forgot version |
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schuster |
I have a question about zebraindexing... I've been doing some work with it now for 3 days and realized today that it was spinning a bunch of lines as it "sort/merges" |
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pastebot |
"schuster" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Is this indicitive of a memory type leak?" (17 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/437 |
| 20:41 |
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schuster |
I think last night when it died I thought it was disc space, but I was only at 80% - today in watching this I had a TON of these lines... |
| 20:42 |
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schuster |
I'm on Version 3.06.04 ... |
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dpavlin |
schuster: do you have anything useful in /var/log/koha/*/zebra-error.log ? |
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schuster |
let me check |
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schuster |
nothing but "stopping" messages which would be normal. |
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dpavlin |
strange. kill all processes and hope that you won't run out of disk space again. zebra does need quite a bit of space to do full reindex... |
| 21:06 |
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dpavlin |
and once it dies it can produce a lot of hanging processes since we run incremental update via cron. |
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schuster |
the koha-zebradaemon-output.log has 109661 lines of warn ir_session (exception) |
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schuster |
I thought originally it was disk, but then today I saw all of these "Zebra" fatal messages when I did ps -ef pages among pages as noted in the paste... |
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schuster |
Luckily my index of 277,000 bibs actually completed today so we can move forward with community otherwise my tail was on the line and my boss was ready to.... |
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schuster |
I didn't have problems with this during my testing on 3.06.00.14... 3.06.05 has been my nemisis so far but we LOVE the features. |
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wizzyrea |
schuster did you turn off the zebraqueue cron when you did your indexing? |
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wizzyrea |
maybe the extras are your backed up zebraqueue cronjobs |
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schuster |
No I didn't so ??? maybe... The install instructions though don't say anything about that and what was in the list are like 5-10 every minute. |
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wajasu |
has anyone seen this before after perl makefile.PL, make,make test, make install, then /etc/init.d.apache2 restart --> |
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wajasu |
apache2: Syntax error on line 230 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Syntax error on line 32 of /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/koha: E |
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wajasu |
xpected </cql2rpn>/root/koha-dev/etc/zebradb/pqf.properties</cql2rpn> but saw </server> |
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mgeist |
Whoot! quitting time. Cyall on the morrow. |
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wajasu |
my bad i symbolicly linked the wrong file. koha-conf.xml instead of koha-httpd.conf |
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wajasu |
tab completion was not my friend that time |
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slef |
ah so? |
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wahanui |
rumour has it ah so is there no charge from ALA for the meetup |
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wajasu |
ok. my git env is setup using /root/koha-dev and /root/kohaclone but i get forbidden! You don't have permission to access / on this server |
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slef |
wajasu: check your apache configs, particularly <Directory ...> sections. You may find it easier to try again in /home somewhere. |
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wajasu |
ok |
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slef |
many webserver setups are cautious about serving from /root or /etc or /usr because they often contain sensitive files |
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slef |
you can reconfigure it, but maybe it is a bad idea... |
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wajasu |
just as quick to start again. should i be running as a " koha" user account? or such? thats what might be missing from the INSTALL instructions. |
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slef |
well some user not used for another purpose, I think |
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slef |
you may be right that INSTALL assumes people create a new login for a new web app... not strictly necessary but maybe a good idea |
| 22:03 |
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wajasu |
i always used to get in trouble with perms and zebra. we will see this time around. |
| 22:05 |
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slef |
oh that is easily done... not too hard to fix with some chown commands... or make much worse |
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slef |
is there a reason you are not installing the koha-common*deb packages? |
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wajasu |
i did successfully with a noninteractive shell script that builds a kvm image. no i am adding git dev support for patch support. |
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wajasu |
s/no/now/ |
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slef |
oh right |
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wajasu |
i'm trying to align with the apache-shared stuff. (i.e. reuse the mysql/apache stuff. |
| 22:16 |
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atmanning |
can anyone point me to a faq or instructions about why I see zero items added when I import MARC records? Here's my output: Number of records added973 Number of records updated0 Number of records ignored0 Number of items added0 Number of items ignored because of duplicate barcode0 |
| 22:16 |
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atmanning |
this is a fresh install on Debian squeeze, Koha v 3.8 (koha-commons via apt-get) |
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wajasu |
have you run the zebra indexer? |
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atmanning |
I thought the import was supposed to add the items... does this mean my imported marc records are showing zero items? |
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wajasu |
or if its in cron, wait until it runs? |
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atmanning |
where is the indexer found? |
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atmanning |
nothing found under /var/spool/cron/crontab |
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wajasu |
there is a section in INSTALL.debian than mentions how to set it up. |
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atmanning |
i followed this guide: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_Debian_Squeeze where do I find those install instructions? |
| 22:20 |
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wajasu |
did you install koha-common or koha? |
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atmanning |
koha-common per the wiki instructions |
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slef |
blurgh, I must sleep soon, but where did the MARC records come from and do they have 952 tags? |
| 22:22 |
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atmanning |
pulled them out of a working Winnebago library system. I don't have a clue about the tags. I saw some things about a MARC editor that I suppose I could read through - I'd be happy with a mysql query to update an item count somewhere... |
| 22:23 |
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slef |
yeah you probably need to make the Koha holdings tags |
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atmanning |
did a MARC export of 900 records |
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slef |
there is a sort-of standard for holdings info in tag 852 but I think it is deprecated and koha uses tag 952 anyway |
| 22:24 |
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slef |
let me get you the layout of tag 952... then I must sleep |
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slef |
@marc 952 |
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wahanui |
The 952 field is used by Koha to store item data in MARC21 and is described at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_fields_%289xx%29 |
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huginn` |
slef: unknown tag 952 |
| 22:24 |
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atmanning |
I'd like to try that zebra index thing... looking for it in /usr/share/koha/bin/?? |
| 22:25 |
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wajasu |
i wrote a program way back, that added one item per in the 952 prior to import, as well as set other things. |
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slef |
and I am sorry but it is not as simple as a mysql query... you need items added through the Koha API somehow... and updating the MARC before import is probably the simplest |
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slef |
(I think adding an item updates 2 or maybe more tables, plus gets sent to the zebra indexing server) |
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atmanning |
I was afraid of that... I think I found the index thing under migration tools --- that seems like an illogical place if it supposed to run all the time |
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slef |
there is an inglorious historical reason for it... but I think it is in the INSTALL instructions |
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atmanning |
I still haven't found those instructions.... grrr... |
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slef |
errr |
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slef |
did you install from the debian package or the tar.gz? |
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mtj |
atmanning: ./INSTALL.debian |
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mtj |
atmanning: cron files are in /etc/cron.d |
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atmanning |
debian package via apt-get koha-commons ... looking for those crons... |
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mtj |
cat /etc/cron.d/koha-common |
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slef |
if it is the debian package, it will (should) do the INSTALL steps for you |
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mtj |
$ dpkg -L koha-common | grep cron.d |
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atmanning |
those crons are there.... I'll check for logs next - thanks for the help... gotta go eat before I starve to death |
| 22:33 |
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mtj |
$ koha-rebuild-zebra your-koha |
| 22:35 |
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atmanning |
what's the best way to confirm whether items have been added to my catalog? |
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slef |
is the problem lack of items or lack of all search resutls? |
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slef |
look up something with an item available in the catalogue? |
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atmanning |
grr.. did a report on catalog statistics - zero items.... I think I'll go back to the MARC records and check that 952 field |
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atmanning |
lack of items and lack of search results too... the koha-rebuild-zebra script didn't complain |
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* slef |
falls asleep...bbl |
| 22:44 |
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mtj |
atmanning: theres 2 basic parts to your problem... |
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mtj |
1) is your zebrasrv process running? |
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mtj |
2) did your zebraidx work successfully? |
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mtj |
well, and a 3rd part too... |
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mtj |
3) did your marc records import successfully |
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mtj |
. |
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atmanning |
yes, yes, and yes but Marc results (above) show all processed but no items added - I manually added items but I would rather set the item count to 1 on all records for the import |
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mtj |
... if your marc records didnt import ok, then the searching or indexing of those non-existent records wont work, either :) |
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atmanning |
It looks like I have to find a way to edit the MARC redords and put a 1 in the 952 tag somehow... |
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mtj |
your winnebago marc records dont yet contain the needed $952 item-level fields, for koha |
| 22:51 |
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mtj |
yes, you need to create correct $952 info for your records *before* import into Koha |
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atmanning |
that sounds right ... I was hoping the import would set the item count to 1 .. |
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atmanning |
now to figure out how to batch modify my marc export file... any pointers? |
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mtj |
nope, Koha will not auto-magically create items for your itemless marc records |
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atmanning |
looks like I'll have to figure out how to get the marc edit to do a search and insert |
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mtj |
i use perl for that task , some people use a win32 app called marc-edit |
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jcamins_away |
atmanning: koha-rebuild-zebra will only complain if the records are corrupted, and it takes talent to import corrupt records. |
| 22:55 |
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wajasu |
i wrote a program in java to do this for me. i also had isbn records in my legacy library db, and queried a list of z3950 servers to get more biblio info. i'm going to have to contrib that one day. |
| 22:56 |
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wajasu |
it took two days to query servers for just 1500 records, since the servers seemed throttled ;) |
| 22:57 |
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wajasu |
i mean 15000 records. |
| 22:58 |
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wajasu |
what about bulkmarcimport.pl |
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mtj |
youknow... a really nice project would be marc2koha.pl script - that converted many other ILS marc records to koha's $952 format |
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mtj |
$ marc2koha.pl --source-format=winnebago --input=winny.mrc --output=koha.mrc |
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mtj |
$ marc2koha.pl --source-format=dynix --input=winny.mrc --output=koha.mrc |
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mtj |
etc... |
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jcamins_away |
druthb's migration toolbox? |
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jcamins_away |
druthb's migration toolbox is amazing |
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jcamins_away |
druthb's migration toolbox is also https://www.gitorious.org/koha-toolbox/ |
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wahanui |
okay, jcamins_away. |
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jcamins_away |
druthb's migration toolbox? |
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wahanui |
druthb's migration toolbox is, like, amazing or https://www.gitorious.org/koha-toolbox/ |
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wajasu |
yeah. i coded it in java 3 years ago. it read all the records into a hsql database, and allowed sql queries and matched to z3950 servers, and other smarts like utf8 normalization. |
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wajasu |
good to know there is another solution |
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mtj |
jcamins_away: nice! |
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mtompset |
Hello, #koha. :) |
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mtj |
catalyst's csv2marc.pl would be a great start, then add some feature to create a new mapping via a yaml file? |
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jcamins_away |
mtj: I prefer druthb's scripts... they're a lot more flexible. |
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mtj |
$ marc2koha.pl --mapping-file=dynix.yaml --input=dynix.mrc --output=koha.mrc |
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mtompset |
What's being discussed? |
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mtj |
jcamins_away: more flexible than the csv2marc.pl script...? |
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jcamins_away |
mtj: that's what I find, yeah. |
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mtj |
see - a general koha2marc.pl script would help newcomers to koha solve a big problem.... |
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jcamins_away |
mtj: agreed. |
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mtj |
(as atmanning has just demonstrated to us) |
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jcamins_away |
mtj: I was thinking maybe we should be able to import using the CSV profiles feature. |
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mtj |
hmm, what is that? |
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wahanui |
well, that is maybe broken |
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mtompset |
wahanui forget that |
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wahanui |
mtompset: I forgot that |
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jcamins_away |
CSV profiles? Look in the administration section. |
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mtj |
ah, gotcha :) |
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mtj |
atmanning: can you paste a winnebago marc record please? -> http://paste.koha-community.org/ |
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jcamins_away |
cait-m_! What are you doing up?!? |
