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cait-m_ |
just git home |
| 00:02 |
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mtompset |
git home? |
| 00:02 |
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mtompset |
You didn't stay for the hackfest? |
| 00:03 |
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cait-m_ |
got bsck to the hotel |
| 00:03 |
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mtompset |
nevermind... I'm still waking up. |
| 00:03 |
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cait-m_ |
sorry late and typing on phone |
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* mtompset |
does a quick system shutdown/sleep. |
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drojf |
hi everybody, hope you are sleeping (the edinburgh people) :P |
| 01:04 |
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drojf |
that worked out ok … |
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papa |
blem). |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
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druthb |
o/ |
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* mtompset |
waves back at druthb. |
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mtompset |
Has anyone here used named sites, rather than port numbers to distinguish OPAC vs. Staff Client? |
| 04:43 |
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mtj |
yes, its very common |
| 04:44 |
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mtj |
the .deb packages do it by default, afaik |
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| 04:57 |
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mtompset |
really? |
| 04:57 |
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mtompset |
I had to tweak my koha-httpd.conf file to get it to work for me. |
| 04:57 |
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mtompset |
of course, I'm using Ubuntu. |
| 04:58 |
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mtompset |
mtj, do you have it set up that way? |
| 05:01 |
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mtj |
yeah, sometimes... |
| 05:04 |
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mtompset |
the rewrite rules didn't quite work without explicit referencing the site name. |
| 05:04 |
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mtompset |
I'm just wondering if I did it an ugly way, or if there is something better. |
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Oak |
kia ora #koha |
| 05:11 |
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mtompset |
Hello, Oak. |
| 05:12 |
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Oak |
hello mtompset :) |
| 05:12 |
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Oak |
did you see the pictures of KohaCon? |
| 05:12 |
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Oak |
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nengard/ |
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mtompset |
Looks mildly interesting... but I'm trying to clean up my styling of the koha pages... I did it quick and dirty, instead of clean and right. :) |
| 05:17 |
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Oak |
link? |
| 05:17 |
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wahanui |
link is right, but the website is gone, apparently |
| 05:18 |
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mtompset |
link for what? |
| 05:20 |
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Oak |
your koha installation? |
| 05:21 |
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mtompset |
Sorry... it isn't public yet. ;) |
| 05:24 |
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mtompset |
This is the STAFF client that I styled. |
| 05:26 |
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Oak |
ah isee |
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Oak |
OKAY |
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mtompset |
Hmm... I think my styling instructions that I wrote for the OPAC side were incomplete. :( |
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mtompset |
DOH! Old CSS file. |
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vkm |
hello all |
| 05:52 |
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vkm |
how can i set up postfix to send auto emails via gmail account |
| 05:53 |
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mtompset |
if you ever find the answer... please let me know. :) |
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mtompset |
I tried to get any kind of external email working for a couple days, and gave up. |
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mtompset |
Thankfully, our host provider has a working relay agent I was able to use. |
| 05:55 |
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vkm |
please tell me how to setup email for koha and adition software requirment |
| 05:57 |
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mtompset |
I don't know. |
| 05:57 |
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mtompset |
This was external to koha, so I haven't tried to integrate with koha. |
| 05:57 |
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mtompset |
Sorry. :( |
| 05:58 |
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vkm |
kk |
| 06:00 |
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mtompset |
Are you using Debian? |
| 06:00 |
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mtompset |
Perhaps you will find some useful information on the Wiki. |
| 06:01 |
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mtompset |
Wiki? |
| 06:01 |
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wahanui |
i guess Wiki is http://wiki.koha-community.org |
| 06:02 |
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vkm |
i am using ubuntu |
| 06:12 |
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mtompset |
desktop or server? |
| 06:14 |
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mtompset |
I've had difficulty with server... I have yet to try desktop. |
| 06:14 |
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vkm |
desktop |
| 06:14 |
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mtompset |
Well, I guess you answered my pondering. :( |
| 06:14 |
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vkm |
using desktop on ibm server machine |
| 06:15 |
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mtompset |
that isn't really the problem.. the problem is configuration. |
| 06:15 |
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vkm |
do u know |
| 06:15 |
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mtompset |
And I don't know how to get sending mail working on an ubuntu machine yet. |
| 06:16 |
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mtompset |
Sorry. :( |
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mtompset |
If you wait another couple hours, you may find a bunch of people on who may be able to help. |
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mtompset |
Hello, KMLC. |
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reiveune |
hello |
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rangi |
hello :) |
| 06:48 |
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mtompset |
Hello, reiveune. |
| 06:48 |
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mtompset |
Hello, rangi. |
| 06:48 |
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reiveune |
hi :) |
| 06:49 |
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KMLC |
hi.. i have 3 staff simultaneously cataloguing.. i need to generate a daily report where i can monitor how many books each staff has catalogued as well as get a list of the books that they have entered individually |
| 06:50 |
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rangi |
KMLC: what version of koha? 3.8.x or 3.6.x |
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rangi |
either way if you go to systempreferences and turn on the cataloguing logging it will save that information for you |
| 06:51 |
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KMLC |
3.6 |
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* mtompset |
grumbles, "I was right... login.css over-rides the added staff-global-tweak.css I set the system preference to." |
| 06:55 |
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KMLC |
the cataloguing logging is on.. but how do i retrieve the data\ |
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rangi |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]dded_by_cataloger |
| 07:00 |
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rangi |
you can add a date criteria to that and you would get the count |
| 07:03 |
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mtompset |
How is it that the OPAC client has a way to put a nice banner at the top of each page, but the staff client doesn't? |
| 07:03 |
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KMLC |
titles added by the cataloguer only gives me a count, i need a list too to check the quality of the entries |
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| 07:07 |
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rangi |
hi eythian |
| 07:07 |
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bag |
heya rangi and eythian |
| 07:07 |
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wahanui |
rangi and eythian are not around - you would have to ask them |
| 07:07 |
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bag |
heh |
| 07:07 |
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rangi |
eythian: http://www.edinburghtour.com/o[…]sh-subtitles.html it runs every 20 mins, hop on/hop off, multilingual .. might be something to do? |
| 07:08 |
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rangi |
(goes to the castle, national museum etc) |
| 07:08 |
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bag |
ah rangi that looks sick ;) |
| 07:08 |
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rangi |
heya bag :) |
| 07:08 |
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bag |
I'd ride that |
| 07:08 |
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rangi |
eythian: after a nice big scottish breakfast :) |
| 07:09 |
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bag |
go scotch tasting ;) |
| 07:09 |
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bag |
rangi: how's the conference having a good time? |
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bag |
morning cait |
| 07:10 |
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rangi |
conf was great, today is the day between, and yep once i got luggage it was all good |
| 07:11 |
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bag |
how many days without luggage? |
| 07:11 |
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rangi |
40ish ppl for hackfest starting tomorrow, so that's awesome |
| 07:11 |
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bag |
sweet |
| 07:11 |
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bag |
go PLACK! |
| 07:11 |
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bag |
heh |
| 07:11 |
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rangi |
was only the first day, but 2 days travel before that |
| 07:11 |
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bag |
(shitty) |
| 07:11 |
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rangi |
cait / reiveune: http://www.edinburghtour.com/o[…]sh-subtitles.html |
| 07:12 |
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mtompset |
2 days travel?! |
| 07:12 |
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reiveune |
I'm jealous :-p |
| 07:13 |
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mtompset |
What were your stop overs, rangi? |
| 07:13 |
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bag |
3 days without clothes :( |
| 07:13 |
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mtompset |
without CLEAN clothes. |
| 07:13 |
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rangi |
stopped for 3 hours in singapore, 3 in london |
| 07:13 |
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| 07:13 |
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rangi |
2 in auckland |
| 07:14 |
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rangi |
about 27 hours of being in planes, 9-10 in airports |
| 07:14 |
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mtompset |
GAH! Too many stop-overs... that's why it was two days. |
| 07:15 |
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rangi |
well the bulk of it was flying it is a long way |
| 07:15 |
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mtompset |
Is that the shortest route? |
| 07:16 |
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mtompset |
I don't see why you couldn't have flown through the US. |
| 07:16 |
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rangi |
takes about as long, and you need a transit visa |
| 07:16 |
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mtompset |
Oh, sucky transit visa mess. |
| 07:16 |
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rangi |
13.5 flight from auckland to LA |
| 07:16 |
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bag |
go LA! |
| 07:16 |
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bag |
well go SBA |
| 07:16 |
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* cait |
waves |
| 07:17 |
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cait |
still sleepy :) |
| 07:17 |
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mtompset |
So, how is it that we can have a nice banner for OPAC, but not the staff client? |
| 07:18 |
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mtompset |
OPACheader. |
| 07:18 |
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mtompset |
But no Staffheader? |
| 07:19 |
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Oak |
hello cait :) |
| 07:19 |
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mtompset |
Or at least a nice header for the login screen. |
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| 07:21 |
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rangi |
wb eythian and good morning marcelr |
| 07:21 |
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marcelr |
hi rangi |
| 07:22 |
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eythian |
Hi. Has a plan been planned yet? |
| 07:22 |
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rangi |
im leaning towards http://www.edinburghtour.com/o[…]sh-subtitles.html |
| 07:23 |
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rangi |
its a hop on hop off, multilingual, buses ever 20 mins |
| 07:23 |
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bag |
eythian: go scotch tasting ;) |
| 07:23 |
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rangi |
but ppl are still just waking up |
| 07:23 |
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mtompset |
@wunder EDI |
| 07:23 |
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huginn` |
mtompset: The current temperature in Dalgety Bay, United Kingdom is 11.7°C (8:15 AM BST on June 08, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.18 in 988 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:24 |
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mtompset |
Ah, I see. I keep forgetting the timezone difference. :) |
| 07:25 |
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eythian |
bag: sounds like a hop on/off tour could be combined with whiskey tasting quite feasibly :) |
| 07:26 |
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rangi |
eythian: last bus is 5.40pm |
| 07:26 |
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rangi |
so yeah, easily i think |
| 07:27 |
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bag |
oh man I'm on the next plane - doing the bus touristica and sipping whiskey with eythian and rangi - That's too much too miss |
| 07:27 |
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rangi |
hehe |
| 07:28 |
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slef |
@wunder Edinburgh, United Kingdom |
| 07:28 |
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huginn` |
slef: The current temperature in Edinburgh Airport, United Kingdom is 13.0°C (8:20 AM BST on June 08, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.18 in 988 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:28 |
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rangi |
i hope kyle pops up on irc |
| 07:28 |
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bag |
hey john brice came with him too right? |
| 07:28 |
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rangi |
the biblibrans were planning to hop on round 9, and martin |
| 07:28 |
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rangi |
yep |
| 07:28 |
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slef |
bag: can we report your absence as a bug to bywater? Miss you |
| 07:28 |
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bag |
morning slef |
| 07:29 |
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slef |
rangi: if anyone needs anything kohacon-related today... |
| 07:29 |
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bag |
well it's less than two weeks for Baby Dragon's arrival (good excuse ;) ) |
| 07:29 |
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rangi |
talk to the hand? |
| 07:29 |
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bag |
talk to the fist |
| 07:29 |
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slef |
I'm up a volcano with no mobile phone coverage so call the co-op ;) |
| 07:29 |
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rangi |
hehe cool |
| 07:30 |
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slef |
enjoy the day... bbl |
| 07:30 |
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mtompset |
how did the presentation go, slef? |
| 07:30 |
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rangi |
thanks, you too |
| 07:30 |
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bag |
eythian: I want to see a good picture of you and rangi tasting some scotch ;) |
| 07:31 |
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bag |
@later tell druthb HAPPY BIRTHDAY! |
| 07:31 |
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huginn` |
bag: The operation succeeded. |
| 07:31 |
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KMLC |
hi .. can anyone help me with my query on reports |
| 07:32 |
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KMLC |
I have 3 staff simultaneously cataloguing.. i need to generate a daily report where i can monitor how many books each staff has catalogued as well as get a list of the books that they have entered individually |
| 07:32 |
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bag |
schema? |
| 07:32 |
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wahanui |
somebody said schema was tracked in git. or found at http://schema.koha-community.org |
| 07:32 |
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| 07:33 |
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eythian |
bag: vicarious drinking, eh? |
| 07:33 |
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bag |
no kidding.. I feel like I'm egging you all on |
| 07:33 |
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eythian |
Heh |
| 07:33 |
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paul_p |
KMLC = you should activate cataloguing logging in syspref and build a query with action_logs table |
| 07:33 |
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rangi |
ahh there is paul_p :) |
| 07:33 |
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mib_xa7kh2 |
hello everybody..i cant access my koha is there any method to restore it.. |
| 07:33 |
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bag |
morning pastebot |
| 07:34 |
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bag |
HA |
| 07:34 |
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mtompset |
his logging is on. :) |
| 07:34 |
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bag |
morning paul_p |
| 07:34 |
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KMLC |
paul = cataloguing logging is on = can u help with building a query |
| 07:34 |
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mtompset |
when you say, "Can't access?" What sort of errors do you get? |
| 07:35 |
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paul_p |
hi bag. Any (good) news ? |
| 07:35 |
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paul_p |
'morning rangi. |
| 07:35 |
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bag |
not yet - but very close |
| 07:35 |
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paul_p |
edinburghtour.com is a good idea. |
| 07:36 |
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slef |
mtompset: no idea. got some ppl talking |
| 07:36 |
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rangi |
mtompset: it was good, funny, thought provoking |
| 07:36 |
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slef |
paul_p: did you bring a projector? |
| 07:36 |
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paul_p |
slef = nope :( |
| 07:36 |
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mtompset |
So, what was the thing that you thought everyone would hate? |
| 07:37 |
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slef |
paul_p: ok np. I will bring ours |
| 07:37 |
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slef |
mtompset: I suggested locking down the community and merging the support companies |
| 07:38 |
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mtompset |
the companies might not like it, but it has merit as an idea. :) |
| 07:38 |
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slef |
mtompset: I was not serious |
| 07:38 |
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slef |
it is not possible |
| 07:38 |
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paul_p |
KMLC, try SELECT substr(timestamp,10,0),user,count(*) FROM action_logs WHERE module='CATALOGUING' and action='ADDING' GROUP BY substr(timestamp,10,0),user |
| 07:39 |
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mtompset |
It's still an interesting idea to ponder. ;) |
| 07:39 |
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Oak |
like world dominance |
| 07:39 |
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rangi |
yep, monopolies always work out great for end users |
| 07:39 |
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mtompset |
if the end-users are the monopoly, they do. :P |
| 07:40 |
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paul_p |
KMLC, try SELECT substr(timestamp,10,0),user,count(*) FROM action_logs WHERE module='CATALOGUING' and action='ADD' GROUP BY substr(timestamp,10,0),user |
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Joubu |
hi |
| 07:40 |
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wahanui |
salut, Joubu |
| 07:41 |
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Oak |
nengard++ |
| 07:41 |
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slef |
ok now I really get breakfast before they stop serving. mtompset: nengard posted some commentary, videos later |
| 07:41 |
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Oak |
for uploading the photos |
| 07:41 |
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slef |
bbml |
| 07:44 |
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mib_xa7kh2 |
pls cant access koha..i'm getting unable to connect to destination.. |
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| 07:48 |
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rangi |
bus starts at waverly bridge (where the big station is) thats where you can buy tickets |
| 07:48 |
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bag |
all right - good night everyone |
| 07:48 |
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bag |
be well |
| 07:49 |
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rangi |
night bag, sleep well |
| 07:50 |
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eythian |
Cya bag |
| 07:51 |
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mtompset |
Is your server running? |
| 07:52 |
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mtompset |
unable to connect to destination could be the result of several things. |
| 07:52 |
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mtompset |
server is powered off. |
| 07:52 |
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mtompset |
cable to server is unplugged. |
| 07:52 |
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KMLC |
paul = it throws an error |
| 07:52 |
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paul_p |
KMLC = which one ? |
| 07:52 |
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paul_p |
KMLC for me it works, just tested |
| 07:53 |
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paul_p |
rangi = about the bus trip, do you have a plan (time,...) ? |
| 07:54 |
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paul_p |
rangi = biblibre is about to go out for breakfast |
| 07:54 |
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rangi |
should we say meet at waverly at 11? |
| 07:54 |
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paul_p |
we should I don't know, but we could, for sure ;-) |
| 07:54 |
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rangi |
it goes every 20 mins, and takes 1 hour to do the loop, so taht should give us plenty of time |
| 07:55 |
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paul_p |
yep. |
| 07:55 |
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rangi |
to get on and off |
| 07:55 |
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KMLC |
paul = when i try to save the sql it says error 1 |
| 07:55 |
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rangi |
ok, lets say that is the plan :) |
| 07:55 |
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paul_p |
rangi = where is waverly ? |
| 07:55 |
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| 07:55 |
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rangi |
paul_p: on that page, if you download the pdf |
| 07:55 |
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rangi |
http://www.edinburghtour.com/o[…]sh-subtitles.html |
| 07:55 |
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rangi |
it has a nice map |
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francharb |
hi all |
| 07:56 |
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rangi |
waverly is the big train station |
| 07:56 |
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rangi |
i think maybe you went there on the bus from the airport? |
| 07:57 |
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cait |
it's 2 stations from where they got out |
| 07:57 |
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rangi |
ahh |
| 07:57 |
|
* mtompset |
shrugs, "Was I wrong to ask the person to make sure the server was powered on and had a cable plugged in?" |
| 07:57 |
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rangi |
mtompset: nope was a good question |
| 07:58 |
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paul_p |
OK, rangi, see you in 2 hours at waverly then |
| 07:58 |
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mtompset |
I remember spending 15 minutes trying to debug something similar, and it was something that simple. |
| 07:58 |
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rangi |
excellent!, if anyone sees any one else like martin, let them know too |
| 07:58 |
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rangi |
please |
| 07:58 |
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mtompset |
Today I spent 5, because I forgot my SSH port number. :) |
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eythian |
I suppose I should get out of bed and have breakfast then... |
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rangi |
eythia / cait : want to get some breakfast soonish? |
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rangi |
eythian even |
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eythian |
Yeah in 15-20 mins or so. |
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rangi |
i thought maybe where we went yesterday, or something like that |
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eythian |
Not a bad idea. |
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rangi |
cool, lobby in 20? |
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cait |
I will take a bit longer |
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cait |
my hair is still wet and no hair dryer here |
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rangi |
ok, lobby in 30? |
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cait |
k |
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rangi |
ahh, well we have plenty of time |
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mtompset |
With a humidity over 90% supposedly, a hair dryer is kind of important. :) |
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eythian |
rangi / cait: I'm in the lobby now. |
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mtompset |
Are you using your phone to irc chat? |
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eythian |
Yeah |
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mtompset |
What kind of phone, and what application? |
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eythian |
AndChat on android. |
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* eythian |
disconnects to save battery. |
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Oak_ |
@later tell cait http://web.nmsu.edu/~aero/ET28[…]ent_2/HatFanB.jpg |
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huginn` |
Oak_: The operation succeeded. |
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mtompset |
hat? |
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wahanui |
hat is probably supposed to protect you from environmental events, not cause them like that one might |
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mtompset |
Well, I'm feeling the need to collapse. Long day. |
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mtompset |
See you later, Oak. |
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mtompset |
Oak_. :) |
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mveron |
Hi #koha in Edinburgh and all over the world |
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rangi |
Hi mveron we are doing the bus tour round the city |
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mveron |
marjana: Hi, mbalmer and mveron are New Amphon at the conference site. Wlan works. |
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mbalmer |
morning |
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marijana |
morning mbalmer |
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mbalmer |
are you at the university, marijana? |
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marijana |
we are still at the hotel, but will come |
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marijana |
so wireless works at the university? |
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mbalmer |
I am sitting in the new amphon cafe (the big one) on the balcony with mveron |
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mbalmer |
yes, wireless works like a charm |
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marijana |
great :) |
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medmondson |
morning |
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medmondson |
(do we need coffee deliverd for the hackfest) |
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mbalmer |
the bars here serve good coffee, so... |
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medmondson |
ah yes |
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mbalmer |
so, is anyone else in edinburg who did not go the highlands-in-rain tour? |
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medmondson |
11:41 < mbalmer> so, is anyone else in edinburg who did not go the highlands-in-rain tour? |
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medmondson |
lol |
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medmondson |
Teviot bookings manager needs to be reminded how to spell koha |
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medmondson |
"KahaCon 12 Conference" |
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medmondson |
... Amphian will NOT be open on Sunday (Library bar) will be open from 12 noon |
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medmondson |
So I think I will order coffee for Sunday monring |
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medmondson |
coffee ordered for Sunday morning at 10ish |
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druthb |
o/ |
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medmondson |
\o |
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mtompset |
Hello, #koha. |
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mtompset |
I guess oleonard isn't here? |
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mtompset |
@later tell oleonard I tried the CSS over-riding idea, but reset-fonts-grids (or whatever it is) isn't over-ridden by the CSS set to replace staff-global.css |
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mtompset: The operation succeeded. |
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jcamins_away |
o/ |
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marcelr |
hi |
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wahanui |
hello, marcelr |
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* druthb |
perks up. |
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druthb |
jcamins! |
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wahanui |
hmmm... jcamins is an outstanding cook, well-traveled and brilliant, trying to think of a solution, or the wizard that forges queries in the deep fires of zebra or an authorities expert |
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druthb |
! |
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druthb |
fancy meeting you here. |
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* jcamins |
gives druthb a funny look from across the table. |
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druthb |
:P |
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* druthb |
is allowed some silliness today---erm. more silliness than usual. She is a crazy ol' lady, after all. |
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Topic for #koha is now Happy birthday druthb! |
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druthb |
! |
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* wajasu |
continues configuring git based dev environment against a debian package install whilst reusing a koha_biblio db and zebra server. |
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marcelr |
sekjal around? |
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sekjal |
marcelr: mostly |
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marcelr |
hi ian; what is status of bug 6557 ? |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6557 normal, P3, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , biblioitems.totalissues unused |
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marcelr |
sekjal you made a comment on the bug but is still on Signed off? |
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sekjal |
marcelr: it's really solid code. I was deciding whether or not the inefficiency noted was worth blocking QA... |
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sekjal |
I think I've come down on the side of "it's okay" |
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marcelr |
we could just suggest follow up? |
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sekjal |
sure |
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marcelr |
shall i have a look too? |
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sekjal |
the more eyes, the better |
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marcelr |
ok will look and change status |
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sekjal |
ok. adding a comment, and assigning to you for QA |
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mbalmer |
ola |
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sekjal |
hi, mbalmer |
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medmondson |
ola where are you at mbalmer? |
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mbalmer |
still the students bar |
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medmondson |
good cheap coffee : ) |
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mbalmer |
and some kohaistas ;) |
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* slef |
wanders around the parliament |
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slef |
we should have one of these in England |
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medmondson |
i might come over to Teviot |
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medmondson |
the scottish parliament is a joke. |
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medmondson |
(liek the edinburgh trams) |
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medmondson |
a farce of a construction project and very badly built |
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slef |
ok we're off again... bbml |
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slef |
ah |
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slef |
well yeah the building's a bit odd |
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jcamins |
I guess in hindsight I shouldn't have offered an update-at-circ option. |
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slef |
bbml |
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jcamins |
I figured it was easy enough to be worth adding for very small libraries. |
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medmondson |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S[…]Building#Problems |
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sekjal |
jcamins: it's syspref controllable, with a clear warning |
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sekjal |
choices++ |
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jcamins |
sekjal: my reasoning was that a 10k volume reserve collection could have popularity changing as often as several times a day. |
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sekjal |
I look forward to it all being handled with DOM |
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jcamins |
Me too! |
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marcelr |
jcamins: when we have 1000 prefs, we should put something on top of it :-) |
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jcamins |
marcelr: yeah, we do have rather a lot of sysprefs. However, I don't really see a way around it. |
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marcelr |
i understand |
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sekjal |
so long as they're organized and searchable.... |
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jcamins |
The way to fix the performance issue, of course, is to make Koha::Record::Biblio and Koha::Record::Item more sensible, with only a single call to retrieve record data. |
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marcelr |
yeah |
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* jcamins |
is hoping to do some of that with the big authority developments coming up. |
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marcelr |
jcamins++ for that |
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jcamins |
I would *love* to kill off C4::AuthoritiesMarc and replace it with Koha::Record::Authority, Koha::Search::*, and Koha::Something::Authorities |
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marcelr |
jcamins++ for solid code in 6557 too |
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marcelr |
and well documented test plans! |
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* wajasu |
gets his git env running in a virtual machine, sharing the debian install (perl deps + apache + mysql database) as a separately enabled site. |
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marcelr |
jcamins: here comes the but... did you see what happened with the third patch on report 6557? |
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* wajasu |
wonders if i should just enable it but have it run at different ports 90/9090 |
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marcelr |
squashed? |
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jcamins |
marcelr: whoops! I'll obsolete the other two. |
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jcamins |
Actually, I don't like the subject on the squashed one. |
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marcelr |
give me the new name |
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jcamins |
I think "Record bib popularity in totalissues" makes sense. |
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marcelr |
ok i will copy that |
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jcamins |
Thanks. |
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wajasu |
when i ran the kohaclone git dev environment, it seemed to create my virtualhost at 127.0.1.1:8080. so i just made it *:8080 so my NameVirualHost *:8080 would match. |
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wajasu |
when one installs make for debian for the dev environment, does one usually install build-essential? |
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wajasu |
my vm with standard debian + koha-common + git kohaclone + build-essential is about 2.6GB Those .po translations add up. |
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wajasu |
i'm wondering if i have my koha git repo in my host OS, then maybe I can just mount it in the guest os with sshfs or such to keep my vm's lighter.. |
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jcamins |
wajasu: that would work, yes. |
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wajasu |
so when i ran my git dev setup, i chose to resuse my koha database previously set up. |
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wajasu |
i hit the staff interface, and the webinstaller came up. and i had to step through the steps again. |
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* wajasu |
wonder if there is a way to prevent that, since it would have been done during my original databse install. |
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wizzytab |
hi |
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jcamins_away |
tab? |
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wahanui |
tab is under advanced otpions |
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jcamins_away |
Hehe. |
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jcamins_away |
Oh, tablet. |
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druthb |
hi, wizzytab. :) |
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wizzytab |
heyas |
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jcamins_away |
Hello. |
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schuster |
So where is the syspref to set a "Max duedate"? |
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jcamins_away |
schuster: there aren't global duedates anymore. You set it in the circ rules. |
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mleaway |
anyone still in teviot? |
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schuster |
Ah thanks.. |
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marcelr |
yes some folks still are |
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mleaway |
marcelr thanks then i will come by soon |
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* wajasu |
wonders if as far as git devel goes. is this workflow possible? mount git kohaclone repo in a vm, running as koha-patchNNNN user with working branch selected as kohapatchNNNN such that each user gets a consistent environment. logging in as a different koha-patchNNNN user would give a new context/git branch. of course only one branch/env could be worked on at a time. |
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wajasu |
to save repeated git clone. |
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hdl1 |
wajasu: investigate git clone -l |
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jcamins_away |
wajasu: yes, but why would you use different users? |
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jcamins_away |
Alternatively, use git clone -l from your central clone. |
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jcamins_away |
(but then you wouldn't be able to use sshfs, since I don't think hardlinks are possible via sshfs) |
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wajasu |
is the idea with git, that i can just git pull to get new changes, ad infinitum? and just do git -b mybranch v3.08.01 or such? |
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jcamins_away |
Hmmm... |
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jcamins_away |
Where's pastebot? |
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jcamins_away |
http://paste.koha-community.org/438 |
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jcamins_away |
wajasu: that was for you. |
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jcamins_away |
wajasu: exactly, you can have as many branches as you want in git, and update whenever you want. |
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wajasu |
i have this nice vm script (generates vm environments. kvm, lxc, squeeze, wheezy, whatever. but if i configure it so that i can maintain one host os based git repo, but mounted in the vm, i can save space in the vm's and generate git dev users per patch that i can fix/test with. |
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jcamins_away |
I'm not sure why you'd want to do that. |
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jcamins_away |
If they're all sharing the same database, you can only edit things with one at a time. |
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wajasu |
i have it sharing the same database, yes in the vm. I can also koha-create other databases in the vm. |
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wajasu |
do you just git clone every time you set up an working patch dev environment? or just periodically git pull, and create branches? as the pastebin looks like |
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jcamins_away |
wajasu: actually, I do something even better... |
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jcamins_away |
http://paste.koha-community.org/439 |
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jcamins_away |
wajasu: I use git aliases to handle all the branch making for me. |
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jcamins_away |
Don't use the git tr. |
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jcamins_away |
I ended up writing a large script to handle that. |
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wajasu |
nice. |
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jcamins_away |
(rdb = resolve database) |
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wajasu |
no hardlinks huh. i'll look into a local git clone instead of hitting koha-community too much. |
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jcamins_away |
wajasu: yeah, *much* better. |
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jcamins_away |
wajasu: hardlinks are good too, if you really want separate kohaclones. |
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wajasu |
if i clone the koha-comminity (2GB). then clone locally from that (call it myclone). can i git pull from the koha-community git repo later from myclone? |
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wajasu |
i.e. change my upstream git repo? |
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wajasu |
if gits repo is immutable that is? |
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wajasu |
might need to ask that on git channel |
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dpavlin |
yap. |
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wajasu |
i love git |
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dpavlin |
just git add remove upstream git://git.koha-community.org/koha.git |
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dpavlin |
and then: git pull upstream master (or git fetch upstream ; git merge upstream/master) |
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mleaway |
so i found the koha enclave! |
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wajasu |
you made my day jcamins and dpavlin |
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dpavlin |
"upstream" is arbitrary name of remote which you can change |
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dpavlin |
argh! git add *remote* upstream git://git.koha-community.org/koha.git |
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wajasu |
so git is bidirectional in a sense |
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dpavlin |
wajasu: you will have to thank git developers, not us ;-) |
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reiveune |
bye |
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wajasu |
well then, i'll make my vm creation script git pull from a configurable repo (could be my local one with a git daemon), and periodically git pull/fetch/ my local one. then my vm's will pul from that. |
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* druthb |
hugs cait-m_ |
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cait-m_ |
hey |
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cait-m_ |
and bye - trying to get some rest :-) |
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marcelr |
hi cait |
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* mleaway |
waves from the bus |
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mleaway |
good to meet you marcelr |
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marcelr |
bye mleaway do not miss your bus stop |
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mleaway |
: ) |
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mbalmer |
doctors pub, anyone? |
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mbalmer |
or any other pub, fwiw.. (as long it is in edinburgo) |
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mbalmer |
no one to join me and mveron? |
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* sekjal |
totally would, but is on the wrong side of the Atlantic... also at work |
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mbalmer |
heh, excuses, excuses .. ;P |
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* mveron |
Is on the way to doctors pub... |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
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dpavlin |
druthb: happy birtday! |
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druthb |
Thanks, dpavlin! :) |
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dpavlin |
birthday... of course... But it was longish day :-) |
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mtompset |
Happy Birthday, druthb. |
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druthb |
:) Thanks. |
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mtompset |
Are either of you familiar with configuring apache such that the name directs to OPAC or staff client on the server? |
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druthb |
yep. Just use NameVirtualHost *:80, then in each of your <VirtualHost *:80> stanzas, use a different ServerName value. |
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mtompset |
Okay... but what about the rewrite rules? |
| 16:54 |
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mtompset |
I had to expressly put the name into them. |
| 16:54 |
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mtompset |
Is that correct? |
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druthb |
If you're using the default koha-conf.httpd file, you won't need to change the Rewrites. |
| 16:55 |
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mtompset |
I tried it without changing the rewrites, and it didn't work. |
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druthb |
(In other words, *do* use the default file, and change only the ServerName and VirtualHost directives. Strongly recommend.) It should...are there other sites on the server? |
| 16:55 |
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mtompset |
Well, the default: It works! |
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druthb |
remove that, with a2dissite default, then restart apache. |
| 16:56 |
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druthb |
it may be 000-default |
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mtompset |
The other mess.... |
| 16:57 |
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mtompset |
the VM that is the koha server.... |
| 16:57 |
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mtompset |
is sitting being a VM that is a proxy redirect server... |
| 16:58 |
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mtompset |
^begin^behind^ |
| 16:58 |
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mtompset |
Anys... I'll start with the simpler problem.. :) |
| 16:59 |
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mtompset |
Booting my local koha VM. :) |
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druthb |
:) |
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mtompset |
I had to make the same changes even without a proxy redirect. |
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mtompset |
I tweaked my Windows 7 hosts to include library and library-admin |
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mtompset |
(OPAC and Staff Clients respectively) |
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mtompset |
I then tweaked my Ubuntu hosts to include them as well. |
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druthb |
yeah, I've done that stunt--putting them in the hosts file as 127.0.0.1, then setting up port forwarding on the Virtualbox interfaces. |
| 17:02 |
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mtompset |
My VM sits on my network in bridged adapter mode. |
| 17:02 |
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mtompset |
I actually have a network IP address. :) |
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druthb |
coolness. |
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wahanui |
coolness is a factor way the hell down your list, though it's on there. The ability to do your editing in your Editor Of Choice instead of that wonky one in WP was a big selling point, as was being able to version-control the whole site with git, and automate the upload. So far, I'm happy as a clam with this. I've got about another hours's work, and it'll be ready for me to throw WP overboard. |
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druthb |
shup, wahanui. |
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wahanui |
druthb: sorry... |
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mtompset |
I wish I had a more powerful machine. |
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mtompset |
I'm running this on my netbook. |
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* mtompset |
wonders if his VM is booting. |
| 17:06 |
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mtompset |
I hate the black start ups. |
| 17:07 |
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mtompset |
So, what timezone are you in? |
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druthb |
Central US. |
| 17:07 |
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mtompset |
There was a power failure here. It's 1AM. |
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mtompset |
@wunder MNL |
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huginn` |
mtompset: The current temperature in Loyola Heights, Quezon City, Philippines is 24.9°C (1:06 AM PHT on June 09, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 255%. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). |
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druthb |
@wunder 66046 |
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huginn` |
druthb: The current temperature in Jeff's Weather Lab, Lawrence, Kansas is 27.8°C (12:07 PM CDT on June 08, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 20%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Falling). |
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mtompset |
Much nicer humidity. :) |
| 17:09 |
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mtompset |
I rebooted the VM ... this time it looks like it is booting. |
| 17:09 |
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druthb |
well, yes. Bone-dry here, lately; haven't had any rain at all in a couple of weeks. |
| 17:10 |
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mtompset |
I have a few friends near Kansas City, MO. |
| 17:10 |
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mtompset |
Interesting cross-state border town. :) |
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sekjal |
@wunder 01003 |
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huginn` |
sekjal: The current temperature in Computer Science Bldg - University of Massachusetts, Amherst, Massachusetts is 25.2°C (1:10 PM EDT on June 08, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.85 in 1011 hPa (Falling). |
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mtompset |
Just confirming IP address is the same. |
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mtompset |
That's the problem with DHCP... I didn't choose a static for this. |
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mtompset |
Okay... working... |
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mtompset |
SSH'ing in... |
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* druthb |
runs to grab some lunch. |
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bag |
@wunder 93109 |
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huginn` |
bag: The current temperature in K6LCM-Westside/Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 20.3°C (10:15 AM PDT on June 08, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1012 hPa (Rising). |
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mtompset |
Okay... looking at my /etc/koha/koha-httpd.conf |
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mtompset |
Hello, bag and sekjal. |
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bag |
morning |
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mtompset |
literally for me. :) |
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mtompset |
@wunder MNL |
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huginn` |
mtompset: The current temperature in Loyola Heights, Quezon City, Philippines is 25.6°C (1:10 AM PHT on June 09, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 24.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). |
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sekjal |
hi, mtompset |
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mtompset |
http://mibpaste.com/AcAyD6 |
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mtompset |
I have two <VirtualHost *:80> sections |
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mbalmer |
Hi from doctors pub... |
| 17:20 |
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mtompset |
Hmm.... should they be <VirtualHost library:80> and <VirtualHost library-admin:80>? |
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druthb_lunching |
no. They should be the same as the NameVirtualHost command, *:80. The ServerName directives must be different. |
| 17:20 |
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mtompset |
They are. |
| 17:21 |
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mtompset |
Now, I'll undo the rewrites, as shown in my paste above. |
| 17:21 |
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mtompset |
and restart apache. |
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druthb_lunching |
If you've got the NameVirtualHost/VirtualHost/ServerName directives right, and *if* (the bigger if) you have networking all okay on the VM--about which I cannot help much--then it should Just Work with the default rewrites. |
| 17:22 |
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mbalmer |
The conferenc wifi is amazing, works even in the pub (which is not on the campus, btw) |
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mtompset |
I've changed it to the default rewrites. |
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mtompset |
I'm restarting apache. |
| 17:28 |
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mtompset |
Interesting. |
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mtompset |
It works. |
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mtompset |
I suppose being behing a proxy VM makes things get mangled enough that the default rules don't work. |
| 17:29 |
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mtompset |
^behing^behind^ |
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mtompset |
How far is it away, mblamer? |
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mbalmer |
dunno, momtpset |
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mbalmer |
Maybe 100-200 yards more |
| 17:31 |
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mtompset |
100 yards = 300 feet = the n standard. |
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mtompset |
(newer versions, that is) |
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eythian |
it's not conference wifi, it's uni wifi I think |
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eythian |
so there'll be access points all over the uni |
| 17:42 |
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mtompset |
Are you any good at CSS, eythian? |
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gmcharlt |
@quote random |
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huginn` |
gmcharlt: Quote #58: "<jdavidb> I prefer killing bugs, not kitties." (added by gmcharlt at 04:38 PM, February 17, 2010) |
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slef |
zplut |
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mtompset |
What is zplut? |
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slef |
it was a bit wet and blowy up that hill |
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slef |
splat but more so |
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slef |
and on a phone keyboard |
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mtompset |
Okay, I get it. |
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eythian |
mtompset: not especially. |
| 17:49 |
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eythian |
I usually spend a large amount of time making things work |
| 17:49 |
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mtompset |
Me too. |
| 17:50 |
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mtompset |
Let's say I want to make a 8 pixel blue border (have a nice graphic) around my koha pages... is there an easy way to do that? |
| 17:57 |
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eythian |
probably |
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eythian |
my easy way of doing that sort of thing is to ask one of our design team :) |
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cait |
heh |
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mtompset |
Nice, but that doesn't work for me. |
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* Oak |
waves |
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mtompset |
Hey, Oak. |
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Oak |
Ahoy mtompset |
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mtompset |
Also, let's make this tougher... |
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Oak |
cait! hello. |
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mtompset |
It's for the STAFF client. |
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Oak |
OKAY |
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mtompset |
Yes, hello, cait. |
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mtompset |
It would seem customization of OPAC is much easier than the Staff client. |
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mtompset |
What time is it there, Oak? It seems like it would be drastically after hours. |
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Oak |
23:08 :) |
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Oak |
what time it is in your world? |
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mtompset |
2:10AM. |
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mtompset |
There was a power failure a couple hours ago. Woke up as a result. |
| 18:15 |
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mtompset |
I figured my north american koha folks might be able to help me with things. :) |
| 18:18 |
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mtompset |
I'm taking off. |
| 18:18 |
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mtompset |
Perhaps you should too, Oak. ;) |
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* mtompset |
waves bye. |
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* drojf |
peeks in from his bed |
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drojf |
happy birthday, druthb |
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cait |
lol |
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cait |
everyone hiding in bed now? |
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drojf |
heh. are you? |
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cait |
took a nap, feeling better |
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cait |
and there is not really a desk in here to put the laptop on |
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drojf |
nice. i begin to fear that now that i am finally in bed i am too tired to sleep |
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drojf |
i would like my sweets from the asian restaurant now |
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drojf |
should have packed some |
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cait |
heh |
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drojf |
too lazy to get up and go to tesco :( |
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cait |
ah |
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cait |
do you know how long the supermarkets are open here? |
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cait |
I was thinking about some juice and crackers |
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drojf |
did you see that one of our busses drove along the fudge shop? |
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cait |
ah no, didn't notice that |
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drojf |
i think tesco is open until 23 here |
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drojf |
http://fudgehouse.co.uk/ |
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drojf |
could use that now |
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drojf |
dpavlin: i have added the Search.pm line to your example on http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ng_Zebra_indexing. i will put up the configuration examples for my talk somewhen during hackfest |
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SJeffery |
Does Koha currently have the ability to handle items that contain multiple items (each with their own separate bib records)? |
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sekjal |
SJeffery: so, a biblio would have items, and those items would in turn be composed of other biblios? |
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SJeffery |
Hmm, not sure we are thinking the same thing. I have always heard it referred to as "bound with". So you have two monographs (bulletin #'s 12 and 13) that someone bound together in the past. |
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sekjal |
ah, okay, so two biblios need to point to the same item record |
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sekjal |
I *think* you can do that with analytics... but you'd need a third biblio |
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sekjal |
the two biblios (12 and 13) would point to a third (12 + 13 together) that would have the item in question |
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sekjal |
I'm not sure if the current Analytics implementation is complete enough to handle that yet, but the spec I wrote for it would allow for such. The actually two-volume item would be allowed to 'pass through' to both biblios |
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SJeffery |
Well crud. ok. I will submit an enhancement bug for it. |
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SJeffery |
It really should not be handled at the biblio level (other than a link to the other items it is bound with)...would need to happen on the item level |
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SJeffery |
sekjal: Do you have a link to the spec? I am not sure I have seen that one. |
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SJeffery |
<--The only person more obsessed about analytics than Jared |
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sekjal |
it's been overwritten by the Analytics spec that OSS Labs did... but here's the historical link: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]upport&oldid=1174 |
| 19:24 |
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SJeffery |
ok, yeah, I have seen that one. Depending on how analytics support looks in August and what is in the pipeline I am going to try to spec out and fund a bunch of improvements to analytics. |
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sekjal |
great! |
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schuster |
I'm looking at the Adding item process and "In Processing Center" When we add them manually it says that but when we load them say from a disk it doesn't. What else do we need to do for them to come up in processing center? |
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sekjal |
schuster: I think you'd need to set the shelving location to PROC on the imported items. The real shelving location gets stashed in permanent_location, I think |
| 19:35 |
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sekjal |
problem is, permanent_location isn't mapped to MARC at all |
| 19:49 |
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drojf |
SJeffery: do you mean a horizontal relationship between items of different biblios? like item1.1 (belonging to biblio1) is related to ("bound with" in your case) item2.1 (belonging to biblio2)? |
| 19:50 |
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SJeffery |
Yes. The trick is that they both have the exact same barcode. |
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drojf |
we do horizontal relations locally in with field 777, but on the biblio level by linking to the control number. but that won't help you then i guess |
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SJeffery |
Seems to be a feature that is just plain missing. I doubt that non-academic libraries run into the issue so that would explain its lack. |
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sekjal |
the data structure is also such that linking an item to multiple biblios would require a massive restructuring of core tables |
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cait-m_ |
i think you could perhaps misuse easyanalytics foe that |
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cait-m_ |
the item goes on the record of the first work |
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cait-m_ |
and then link |
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cait-m_ |
we are talking about thongs being bkund together? |
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SJeffery |
Yes. |
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SJeffery |
*shakes fist at person (long deceased) who thought binding USGS bulletins together was a good idea* |
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cait-m_ |
what one of or,libraries does is |
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cait-m_ |
creating dummy items |
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cait-m_ |
with a link to the actual item rdcord in the item note |
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cait-m_ |
sorry for tips |
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cait-m_ |
typos |
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cait-m_ |
on phone |
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SJeffery |
Is it a sign when you make a typo when writing the word typos? |
| 20:06 |
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cait-m_ |
mean phone |
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cait-m_ |
ok |
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cait-m_ |
sleep |
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drojf |
is "one seventh of a bag contains" a valid uk measure or the most arbitrary way to print a small number of calories on a bag of sweets? |
| 20:09 |
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cait-m_ |
bye all |
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SJeffery |
I do not see any bugs in for this, can someone confirm before I write it all out? |
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drojf |
goodnight cait-m_ |
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cait-m_ |
thx drojf |
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drojf |
SJeffery: confirm what exactly? |
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SJeffery |
That there is no bug (enhancement) currently in for the bound-with function? I can't find anything under that name but someone else might refer to it using a different tern. |
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drojf |
ah. sorry, im tired and slow right now :D i'll try a search. i looked at all bugs regarding linking a while ago and at that time there was nothing like that |
| 20:16 |
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SJeffery |
This is my first Koha bug report and dont want it to be some sort of dupe. |
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sekjal |
time for the weekend to begin! have a good one, #koha! best wishes to all hackfesters |
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drojf |
dont find anything on linking items, but maybe too tired ;) |
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SJeffery |
Thanks for the effort:) |
| 20:36 |
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SJeffery |
Bug 8214 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8214 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Create a bound with function |
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aihsuser2 |
Hey, I'm trying to register my koha server with oai and it failed the validation tests. Anyone know what a proper config for them might look like? |
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gmcharlt |
aihsuser2: did OAI give you informatino about the specific validation errors? |
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aihsuser2 |
yes their email reads : Unfortunately your repository did not validate at version 2.0 of the OAI-PMH |
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aihsuser2 |
according to our OAI protocol conformance tester. The errors received during |
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aihsuser2 |
testing are listed below. |
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aihsuser2 |
[1] Failed to extract any setSpec elements from ListSets but did not find an |
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aihsuser2 |
exception message. If sets are not supported by the repository then the |
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aihsuser2 |
ListSets response must be the noSetHierarchy error. See |
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aihsuser2 |
[http://www.openarchives.org/OA[…]ocol.htm#ListSets]. |
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aihsuser2 |
[2] The response to the ListIdentifiers verb with metadataPrefix oai_dc |
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aihsuser2 |
contained no identifiers. Without at least one identifier, we cannot proceed |
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aihsuser2 |
with the validation tests. |
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aihsuser2 |
No identifiers in response to ListIdentifiers. Without an identifier we cannot |
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aihsuser2 |
proceed with validation tests. |
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SJeffery |
So if there is an enhancement that we want to take care of, do you just take care of it and push it, or do you RFC each one no matter how small? |
| 21:09 |
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aihsuser2 |
the more comprehensive test suite http://re.cs.uct.ac.za/ seems to think the errors are in the xml schema |
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aihsuser2 |
you can see the full test results if you enter my server name  http://184.168.74.53:82/cgi-bin/koha/oai.pl into http://re.cs.uct.ac.za/ |
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SJeffery |
I think everyone is either at the conference or traveling right now |
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gmcharlt |
aihsuser2: do you have any OAI sets defined via the relevant admin page? |
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aihsuser2 |
nope |
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aihsuser2 |
what would an easy set (all) look like? |
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gmcharlt |
aihsuser2: eh, prbably something like (in the set definition) 245 subfield a = .* |
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* gmcharlt |
notes that there is in fact a bug here, seemingly -- if no sets are defined in Koha, there is a way for it to say so in a compliant fashion |
| 21:31 |
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gmcharlt |
it's just not doing it |
| 21:36 |
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aihsuser2 |
tried that, still shows errors in XML, |
| 21:36 |
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aihsuser2 |
maybe a bug report/feature request is on order |
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aihsuser2 |
*in |
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eythian |
@later tell cait http://ubuntuone.com/53mDgWqf1nsqtr7XHlxVfk <-- rangi / cait |
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huginn` |
eythian: The operation succeeded. |
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drojf |
i knew it was a good idea to refuse to stand behind that thing :D |
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atmanning |
hey there folks - I've got a quick question regarding the rebuild-zebra.pl script - why is it configured to run every 5 minutes? This seems crazy with a large amount of books |
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drojf |
atmanning: people want to see stuff they catalogue show up in the opac quickly |
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drojf |
you can run rebuild less often if you dont catalogue much |
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drojf |
or dont mind your stuff showing up later |
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drojf |
paul_p: sandbox 10 configuration is missing, there is a koha 404 message instead http://pro.test10.biblibre.com[…]n/koha/sandbox.pl |
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atmanning |
regarding rebuild - I'm finding that it takes about 30 minutes on a virtual machine guest Debian squeeze Koha 3.8 with 135000 book records, which isn't a very large library. Is there a faq that lists the system requirements? My 5-year old server with 2 Gig memory on a 2.4 GHz dual core cannot keep up it seems. I disabled the cron entry while importing.... |
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atmanning |
Anybody running Koha on an Amazon s3 instance? Seems like a nice way to try it out. |
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mtj |
yes, many people... |
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slef |
@later tell sjeffrey seems like enh bugs are vital at the moment and rfcs somewhat optional. Expect new advice on that sometime soon |
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huginn` |
slef: The operation succeeded. |
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slef |
atmanning: the 5-min rebuild is only new items (-z), not everything |
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slef |
atmanning: tajoli has a bug fix to bring back the old zebraqueuedaemon (runs only on demand) too |
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slef |
atmanning: there is no faq on it but occasional anecdotes on server sizes are posted to the list. If you'd like more, ask. |
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slef |
maybe tcohen not tajoli |
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slef |
@query zebra queue daemon |
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huginn` |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6590 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, juan.sieira, Failed QA , Removing hyphens from isbn and issn when cataloging a biblio |
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slef |
@query zebraqueue daemon |
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huginn` |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6435 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , False "no items" in search results [intranet] |
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huginn` |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6590 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, juan.sieira, Failed QA , Removing hyphens from isbn and issn when cataloging a biblio |
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slef |
@query zebraqueue_daemon |
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huginn` |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7170 normal, P3, ---, paul.poulain, REOPENED , Remove use of XML::Simple |
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huginn` |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2505 major, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED , enable Perl warnings in all modules and scripts |
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huginn` |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6590 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, juan.sieira, Failed QA , Removing hyphens from isbn and issn when cataloging a biblio |
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slef |
huginn`: you suck |
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huginn` |
slef: downloading the Perl source |
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slef |
@query zebra-queue-daemon |
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huginn` |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6590 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, juan.sieira, Failed QA , Removing hyphens from isbn and issn when cataloging a biblio |
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slef |
bbl |
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wajasu |
ok. i got my vm working, where if found a sshfs that supports hardlinks, so i could mount my host OS kohaclone workspace. i did a perl Makefile,make,make install. i just need to get my sshf mounted for apache to see. makes my kvm's smaller |
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wajasu |
had to grab a sshfs with hardlink support from http://www.miek.nl/s/87bbb3faf5/ |
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atmanning |
after I finish this latest import I'll see how long it takes with the -z option Debian squeeze is noticeably faster than Ubuntu and the apt-get install koha-commons saved me lots of frustration with cpan and missing dependencies too. |
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wajasu |
koha-commons ++ |
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* liw |
is ill and won't be able to come to the hackfest during the weekend (this sucks) |
