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Judit: afternoon |
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:)afternoon? you already left? |
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jcamins_away |
Sorry. |
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jcamins_away |
Phone keyboard. |
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rangi |
heh |
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rangi |
yeah, they can be tricky to use |
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git.k-c.org really slow for anyone else? |
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really slow/down? |
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both the website and the git clone are fine for me |
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jcamins_away |
chilts: thanks. |
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rangi |
hmm slow for me |
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rangi |
but up |
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cait |
morning #koha |
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Oak |
kia ora #koha |
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cait |
hi Oak |
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Oak |
Ahoy cait |
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eythian |
hello |
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cait |
hello :) |
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Oak |
hello :) |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
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cait |
hi alex_a |
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cait |
next week! :D |
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cait |
bbl |
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julian_m |
hi #koha |
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Joubu |
hi all |
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marcelr |
hello koha |
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slef |
hello |
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wahanui |
what's up, slef |
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slef |
wahanui: up is the sky |
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wahanui |
OK, slef. |
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Oak |
\o |
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kf |
good morning #koha |
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Oak |
good morning kf :) |
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marcelr |
hi kf Oak |
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francharb |
hi |
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Oak |
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magnuse |
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magnuse |
yay! ;-) |
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Oak |
:-) |
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marcelr |
hi magnuse francharb |
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magnuse |
hiya marcelr |
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Oak_ |
electricity playing hide and seek |
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magnuse |
sounds like fun... ;-) |
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Oak_ |
it is :) |
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Oak_ |
how do i give myself credit for the Koha deployment and customization I did... in footer area of my opac? what words do I use? |
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Oak_ |
like, Deployed by --- or Implemented by --- ? or what? any ideas? or should I add a 'Credits' link in footer and add names of all the people who helped me. that sound better actually. |
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hdl |
oak there is an opaccredits sys pref iirc |
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hdl |
But you also could add something to the about page. |
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paul_p |
good morning #koha |
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Oak_ |
hmm |
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hdl |
it is not something we usually do. |
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Oak_ |
yes, probably because you all have jobs... and this is my MLIS project, and it would be better if people knew who did the work? no? |
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Oak_ |
i mean i don't have a library job at the moment |
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hdl |
Oak_: at the time Paul and I worked, we worked as consultants. |
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Oak_ |
hmm :) |
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Oak_ |
okay |
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rangi |
evening |
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Oak_ |
evening rangi |
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magnuse |
kia ora rangi |
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stuartyeates |
rangi: thanks for the hints earlier today. we're having another crack at picking an LMS in October |
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rangi |
excellent |
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rangi |
happy to do a demo/presentation any time if that would be useful |
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stuartyeates |
last interation they decided that all the real offerings were vaporware, but everyone else seems to be heading in the alma direction |
| 08:00 |
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stuartyeates |
from what i can tell we'll looking for a 100% hosted outsourced solution |
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rangi |
ah yep |
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rangi |
totally doable :) |
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stuartyeates |
but i'm only seeing one part of the consortia, so that may not be an accurate description of the state of play |
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rangi |
right |
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rangi |
ill ask david up at waikato too |
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slef |
If Paypal do their worst, any ideas how we can collect the donations from the USA without them? Wire transfers are very expensive, even US-US which I could set up. |
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rangi |
cheques work, they just take a long long time to clear |
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slef |
mailing cheques internationally? Yeah, that's true |
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slef |
We've done that from the far east in the past. |
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rangi |
yep, laurels parents have done that to us before too |
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slef |
What about NZ? Can you wire transfer to UK or use e-wallets or are we begging paper cheques from there too? |
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* slef |
sulks at paypal |
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* magnuse |
thinks slef is too lenient |
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rangi |
naw we can do etransfers |
| 08:06 |
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rangi |
they do charge like a wounded bull for it |
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rangi |
however, i could talk to work, it might be that we can somehow use catalyst eu |
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rangi |
ie, get catalyst nz, to transfer to catalyst eu in the uk, and get it to you from there |
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rangi |
im assuming of course that we must have to do money transfers to them from time to time |
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slef |
rangi: if needed, do you think you or catalyst could collect the other NZ donations into it? And any idea what ballpark the transfer charge is? |
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rangi |
probably, and no idea |
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rangi |
david from catalyst eu will be at the conference so we can have a chat and figure it out |
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slef |
just in case anyone cares, international transfers in the UK are under £10 and US is $20-$40... bizarrely, I'm pretty sure transfers from most of the EU to us cost nothing as long as they're sent in Euros, thanks to the EU |
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slef |
rangi: if you have free domestic transfers, I can probably get access to an NZ bank account pretty simply. |
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rangi |
wouldnt be free, but in the region of 20cents |
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stuartyeates |
slef: the NZ-EU situation has changed in the last month, we've been dropped from an approved list |
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stuartyeates |
apparently it's too easy to set up a company here electronically and so people have been using us as money laudering transit point |
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rangi |
yay us! |
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asaurat |
it's business time! |
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slef |
stuartyeates: Great. And the reaction is to make the banking system more secure by stopping everyone being able to use it for anything. |
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slef |
asaurat: lazy. I've been here 80mins already. |
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slef |
;) |
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asaurat |
i was talking about the NZ ;) |
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slef |
stuartyeates: I've a nice sideline using the co-op to campaign for relaxing banking security... although I'm not doing that with paypal because I think I have too much money and not enough time there. |
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slef |
every so often I get bored with writing perl and then I write something like map { $column->{$headings->[$_]} = $_ } (0..@{$headings}); and smile when it works. |
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drojf |
good day #koha |
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slef |
hi |
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drojf |
hi slef. do you know if there is an acta demonstration in edinburgh on 9.6.? i think it's a global (european) action day |
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slef |
drojf: last I saw, the nearest was Glasgow about 1h away by train. There is a google map linked from their facebook page if you want to check it and let me know ;) |
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slef |
Glasgow is a bit far for a lunchtime trip |
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drojf |
just looking for something non-facebookish ;) |
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slef |
the facebook page was public-viewable |
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slef |
EDRI.org may have links too |
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drojf |
glasgow and london on the related google map |
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drojf |
what does it take to register a demonstration in uk? ;) |
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drojf |
Glasgow 9. 6. 2012 12:00--20:00 in UTC+01 |
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drojf |
i doubt there will really be people for 8 hours |
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slef |
I don't know what it takes to register a demonstration here. I've never registered one ;-) |
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slef |
I suspect whether there will be people for 8 hours depends on what the police do... |
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drojf |
54 people going according to fb. if we have a public anti acta hackfest day we woudl be 38 already ;) |
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drojf |
54. wow. either uk folks are really not interested in acta or don't use facebook for that. |
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slef |
yeah fb doesn't seem the natural place to organise against surveillance |
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slef |
or they're distracted by the monarchy going "ooh look at the pretty things, have some holiday, good peasants" |
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drojf |
heh. i never understood why they all use fb for that but it lead to 10000 people in berlin at -17° the last time i went so i try to accept it anyway |
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drojf |
found a different google map at edri which has 10 uk events. not all is lost ;) |
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slef |
any in Edinburgh? |
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drojf |
unfortunately not https://maps.google.com/maps/m[…].452056,67.631836 |
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* drojf |
tries to pull zioha out of the revolving door |
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slef |
drojf: shame. Any "how to do a UK demo" and any volunteers to organise it? |
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jcamins_away |
slef: are you doing something with authorities? |
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slef |
jcamins: no more than usual. In what way? |
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jcamins |
slef: your example of how to keep Perl interesting looked like it might be a modification of C4::Heading. |
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slef |
jcamins: ah no, I'm loading a CSV into the items table with a perl script and the C4 API |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
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slef |
$headings is the first line of the CSV of course |
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slef |
biab |
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drojf |
slef: http://www.yourrights.org.uk/y[…]rotest/index.html looks promising, i'll have a closer look later |
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BobB |
hi slef |
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BobB |
@later tell slef BobB cannot organise the band for KohaCon - members are dispersed on relevant nights. Sorry. |
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huginn` |
BobB: The operation succeeded. |
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slef |
BobB: OK, thanks for trying. I'll make a note. |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
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paul_p |
jcamins = sandbox2.sql.gz on contrib/global/sandbox has been upgraded to 3.8.0 and his size reduced to 5k biblio (instead of 20k) |
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jcamins |
paul_p: did you push the changes to add sign off? |
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paul_p |
jcamins yep |
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jcamins |
:) |
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jcamins |
paul_p++ |
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paul_p |
jcamins = just in case= I just pushed another patch (with doc and a commented line that should not be= |
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paul_p |
) |
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umer |
Hi, every one. i am new to this channel and KOHA as well. i have understood many things regarding koha and still in the phase of learning. |
| 12:58 |
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umer |
i need a bit of ur help |
| 13:00 |
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umer |
how can we import data from some excel file into koha. i know how to import patrons, i do have idea how to import catalogs and items. but if my data is like (petron abc has item xyz issued from library) |
| 13:00 |
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umer |
a complete excel file of this data |
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umer |
any idea? |
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jcamins |
umer: you will have to convert the file into MARC. |
| 13:04 |
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umer |
no.. i have marc files, it has data related to records and items. i have imported the items and records into koha. this is working fine. |
| 13:04 |
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umer |
now what i want to do is, there was an old system, which has information like which book was issued to which patron and is still not checked in, which patron has how much fines etc |
| 13:04 |
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jcamins |
Oh, I see. You mean *just* circulation data. |
| 13:05 |
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umer |
yes yes you got it right |
| 13:05 |
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umer |
just circulation data |
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jcamins |
You'll probably need to write a script to read the data from the spreadsheet and insert it directly into the Koha database. |
| 13:05 |
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jcamins |
Koha migration toolbox? |
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jcamins |
Koha migration toolbox is https://www.gitorious.org/koha-toolbox/ |
| 13:06 |
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jcamins |
^^ that might be useful. It has scripts for a lot of migration tasks. |
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umer |
ahhan.. okay.. i ll look into it. thanks a lot |
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umer |
ok one more thing. by default koha provides the functionality of calculating fines base upon days. is there some way that we could calculate fines on hourly basis? |
| 13:15 |
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jcamins |
umer: that feature was added in version 3.8. |
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umer |
oh.. i am using 3.02. is there some way that i can update it to the latest one? |
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jcamins |
If you look in INSTALL.debian, it has instructions for upgrading. |
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umer |
ok.. thankyou |
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jcamins |
oleonard: do you know of a way to produce a box with a caption-y looking thing outside of a form? |
| 13:18 |
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jcamins |
I know about fieldset and legend, but the box in question contains only text. |
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oleonard |
What's the context? |
| 13:19 |
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jcamins |
Authority notes. |
| 13:19 |
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jcamins |
I want to set them off a little bit from the rest of the text. |
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oleonard |
jcamins: I don't think there is an existing model for that yet, so you can do what you think works best |
| 13:22 |
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oleonard |
If it's instructions for a form we sometimes offset it on the right, like on the list add page |
| 13:22 |
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jcamins |
Actually, what might be better is to set up a tabbed bit, and then just have one tab. |
| 13:22 |
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oleonard |
Not that that looks great. |
| 13:22 |
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jcamins |
That makes it more like the bib details. |
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* oleonard |
doesn't understand |
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jcamins |
I am designing a details view for authorities. |
| 13:23 |
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oleonard |
But that reminds me to be grumpy about Bug 8170 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8170 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , 5XX fields get hidden under Title notes |
| 13:23 |
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oleonard |
5XX fields aren't hidden there, they just GO THERE. |
| 13:23 |
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jcamins |
Why? |
| 13:23 |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
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oleonard |
You could just as easily argue that the MARC view is "hidden" because there's a separate link for it |
| 13:24 |
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* jcamins |
was going to file a bug saying that the MARC view is hidden. |
| 13:24 |
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umer |
couldnt find INSTALL.debian .. could u please guide me the path to this file |
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oleonard |
umer it's in the root directory of your Koha installation |
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jcamins |
umer: it should be in the root directory, but you can also find it online here: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]32474469d;hb=HEAD |
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umer |
couldnt find it in root. thanks for the link |
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jcamins |
Hm. the tabber is removing the <ul> and <li> elements, and not doing anything else. |
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wizzyrea |
I think you said "root" and he thought "/" |
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wizzyrea |
and good morning |
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oleonard |
"You had me at root" |
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oleonard |
"In that I stopped reading after that" |
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jcamins |
Okay, it's no longer removing the <ul> and <li> tags. |
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jcamins |
That's progress. |
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oleonard |
jcamins: You're trying to do the tabs plugin? |
| 13:47 |
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jcamins |
Yes. |
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oleonard |
I'd be happy to check the markup if that would help |
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wizzyrea |
oh there's a new zebra version |
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jcamins |
Before I show it to you, I think I'd better check that I'm not making any embarrassing mistakes in it. |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: yeah, I saw that. |
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oleonard |
jcamins: That's usually the problem ;) |
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jcamins |
... like the one I just found. |
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wizzyrea |
3 whole changes. They are ambitious. |
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jcamins |
lol |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: presumably there are more differences? |
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jcamins |
I _did_ think that very thing, though. |
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wizzyrea |
um, thre are only 3 listed in the email |
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wizzyrea |
Increase max size of indexing term from 256 to 512. |
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wizzyrea |
Fix buffer overrun for terms using ICU normalization. |
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wizzyrea |
Fix problem in dictionary due to increase max size of term. |
| 13:51 |
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jcamins |
I know. I saw the e-mail. |
| 13:51 |
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wizzyrea |
that's it |
| 13:51 |
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wizzyrea |
oh that was for everyone else :P |
| 13:51 |
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jcamins |
And thought "is that really all they did?" |
| 13:51 |
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jcamins |
But then I decided they probably did more and just didn't feel like writing release notes. |
| 13:51 |
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wizzyrea |
or they didn't, and zebra is just that awesome |
| 13:51 |
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wizzyrea |
and bug free. |
| 13:52 |
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jcamins |
Heh. |
| 13:53 |
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jcamins |
Odd... the javascript doesn't seem to be showing up. |
| 13:54 |
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jcamins |
Mystery solved. |
| 13:54 |
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jcamins |
Misplaced IF. |
| 13:55 |
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jcamins |
It is now working. :) |
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Oak |
jcamins++ |
| 14:06 |
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wizzyrea |
well here's your mad scheme of the day |
| 14:06 |
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wizzyrea |
"anybody ever tried to use SIP authentication with WordPress?" |
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* wizzyrea |
ducks |
| 14:06 |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: why? |
| 14:07 |
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wizzyrea |
so that you can have patron only password protected areas of your website |
| 14:07 |
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wizzyrea |
for say, databases. |
| 14:07 |
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wizzyrea |
and keep only one username |
| 14:07 |
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jcamins |
Interesting. |
| 14:07 |
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wizzyrea |
actually, it would be cool if you could make Koha an OpenID endpoint |
| 14:07 |
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wizzyrea |
then you could just use OpenID |
| 14:08 |
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wizzyrea |
that solution would require no further work on WordPress. |
| 14:08 |
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jcamins |
That would make sense. |
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magnuse |
openid++ |
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* jcamins |
thinks Myshkin approves as well. |
| 14:35 |
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jcamins |
Especially if it openid is a code word for "tummy scratching." |
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magnuse |
isn't it? |
| 14:41 |
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jcamins |
Must be. |
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jcamins |
He's asleep in his box top (with a tissue paper mattress... what a spoiled cat), and every few minutes he wakes up enough to very theatrically roll around on his back and look at me accusingly before nodding off again. |
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Oak |
funny |
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jcamins |
liw: around? |
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clrh_ |
? |
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mtompset |
Hello? |
| 15:25 |
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oleonard |
Hi mtompset do you have a question? |
| 15:26 |
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mtompset |
I thought that perhaps an interactive community might have a better chance at pointing me to SAML 2.0 integration with Koha. :) |
| 15:26 |
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mtompset |
I found a thread on some mailing list from March. |
| 15:27 |
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mtompset |
But other than that, nothing seems to be out there. |
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jcamins |
mtompset: a quick wikipedia search on SAML suggests that any work there is on it would be in BibLibre's work on shibboleth, but I've certainly never heard of it before. |
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mtompset |
I also found Dobrica Pavlinušić's blog. |
| 15:29 |
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mtompset |
I suspect that is dpavlin_away right now. |
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kf |
I think jcamins is right, biblibre said there were working on shibboleth integration with Koha. |
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jcamins |
mtompset: dpavlin may know something about it, then. |
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kf |
they were... |
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mtompset |
Is there any ETAs? |
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kf |
ETA? |
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jcamins |
mtompset: no. |
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jcamins |
Estimated Time of Arrival. |
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jcamins |
clrh: you don't have a schedule for shibboleth integration, do you? |
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mtompset |
Well, dpavlin's blog http://blog.rot13.org/2011/06/[…]-perl-webapp.html |
| 15:30 |
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mtompset |
points at pieces, but I'm not sure I understand how the patchwork works. |
| 15:32 |
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jcamins |
Since I have no idea what SAML is (even after skimming Wikipedia), I can't really help you, sorry. |
| 15:32 |
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jcamins |
It might be worth sending an e-mail to koha-devel. |
| 15:32 |
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mtompset |
It's an protocol definition of how to authenticate and give access to services. At least that's my take on it. |
| 15:32 |
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jcamins |
That way when dpavlin isn't away he can respond. :) |
| 15:34 |
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mtompset |
Or I could leave a message on their blog. I just don't like signing in and subscribing to things left right and center. :) |
| 15:34 |
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kf |
mtompset: when you are working with Koha the mailing list is a must have :) |
| 15:35 |
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clrh |
jcamins: we did a first work and I am waiting for customer test installation to validate it |
| 15:35 |
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mtompset |
actually, the wiki was good enough for our base install. |
| 15:36 |
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clrh |
but I remmeber it was a really "hard thing" to setup architecture (sysop ionfrastructure !?) don't know the god work |
| 15:36 |
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clrh |
jcamins: will I see you at edimbourg? |
| 15:36 |
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jcamins |
mtompset: installing Koha is one thing. Doing development with it is something else. |
| 15:36 |
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jcamins |
clrh: unfortunately not. :( |
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jcamins |
I'll be presenting via the Internet. |
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mtompset |
tell me about it, jcamins. :) |
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clrh |
snif ok I will remember that I have to tell you when we will submit a patch |
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jcamins |
clrh: mtompset was wondering about it. I'll see the update to Bugzilla. :) |
| 15:37 |
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jcamins |
mtompset: actually, developing with Koha is pretty easy. |
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jcamins |
But you do need to subscribe to the mailing lists. |
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* kf |
joins clrh in sniffing |
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kf |
clrh: I wish too jcamins would be there |
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clrh |
for me snif is like "crying" / be sad |
| 15:38 |
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clrh |
ook kf you have the same meaning |
| 15:38 |
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mtompset |
okay... on main page... where is the "yes, bombard me with lots of mail that I'll mostly mark as read"? |
| 15:39 |
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jcamins |
Support. |
| 15:39 |
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wahanui |
i think support is found at http://koha-community.org/support/ |
| 15:39 |
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jcamins |
mailing lists? |
| 15:39 |
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wahanui |
mailing lists are at http://koha-community.org/supp[…]ha-mailing-lists/ |
| 15:39 |
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jcamins |
^^ there we go. :) |
| 15:39 |
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mtompset |
At least one question got answered. ;) |
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kf |
mtompset: where are you located? |
| 15:40 |
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mtompset |
PH |
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mtompset |
And you? |
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kf |
Germany |
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* jcamins |
is from the US- New York. |
| 15:41 |
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kf |
which version did you install? |
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mtompset |
3.6.3 |
| 15:41 |
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mtompset |
Though I patched the login with 3.6.4 |
| 15:42 |
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mtompset |
Tweaked a bunch of styling things. |
| 15:42 |
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jcamins |
mtompset: you know, you could just upgrade the entire system. |
| 15:42 |
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mtompset |
To make it "fit" our things. |
| 15:42 |
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jcamins |
version control with git? |
| 15:42 |
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jcamins |
koha version control? |
| 15:42 |
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jcamins |
git? |
| 15:42 |
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wahanui |
i guess git is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Control_Using_Git |
| 15:42 |
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jcamins |
There we go. |
| 15:42 |
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jcamins |
You might want to read that document if you haven't already. |
| 15:42 |
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kf |
mtompset: yes, updating to 3.6.5 would make sense |
| 15:42 |
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mtompset |
Nah, because that would bust the style things. :P |
| 15:43 |
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kf |
if it's already annoying with such a small update, you will run into major problems later |
| 15:43 |
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oleonard |
Actually using version control is for *not* busting style things |
| 15:43 |
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kf |
there are lots of options to style things without making updating a pain |
| 15:43 |
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mtompset |
I had to edit existing files. |
| 15:43 |
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kf |
not sure what you did, but it might be worth doing some research to save lot sof time and nerves later on |
| 15:44 |
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kf |
mtompset: I was afraid you woudl say that - but it's never a good idea |
| 15:44 |
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mtompset |
Though I did like the ability to add CSS'. |
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kf |
in my opinion |
| 15:44 |
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mtompset |
I documented my tweaks. |
| 15:44 |
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mtompset |
So if we do upgrade, it shouldn't be too hard. |
| 15:45 |
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oleonard |
With version control you have the possibility of having git automatically merge your customizations upon upgrade |
| 15:46 |
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mtompset |
Haven't used git before, nor koha, nor a lot of the technologies involved in this beautiful mess. :) |
| 15:46 |
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jcamins |
mtompset: never too late to learn. |
| 15:47 |
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mtompset |
I'd like to keep my learning curve less acute. :) |
| 15:47 |
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jcamins |
In that case, learn to use git. |
| 15:47 |
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jcamins |
You'll learn real fast how painful upgrades can be if you really want shibboleth. |
| 15:48 |
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kf |
mtompset: we really not try to make this hard for you - we try to tell you how it will be easier |
| 15:48 |
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mtompset |
I'm also looking at zxid |
| 15:48 |
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jcamins |
(the earliest release that could possibly have shibboleth would be 3.10... you'll have forgotten what tweaks you made, and the Koha files will have changed greatly in between 3.6.3 and 3.10) |
| 15:49 |
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kf |
I think you could perhaps use CAS |
| 15:49 |
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kf |
and it might be that you can get it indirectly working with shibboleth that way but not sure |
| 15:50 |
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mtompset |
No... CAS isn't an option. |
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kf |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C[…]ntication_Service |
| 15:50 |
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mtompset |
I've been told that SAML 2.0 is it, and there is no discussion. |
| 15:50 |
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mtompset |
I won't forget the tweaks. |
| 15:50 |
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mtompset |
1) /usr/share/koha/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/css/login.css 2) /usr/share/koha/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/includes/doc-head-close.inc 3) /usr/share/koha/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/includes/header.inc 4) /usr/share/koha/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/lib/yui/reset-fonts-grids.css 5) /usr/share/koha/intranet/htdocs/intran |
| 15:51 |
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jcamins |
Well, all I can say is, good luck. |
| 15:51 |
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mtompset |
and I have the tweaks listed in detail in a file. |
| 15:51 |
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mtompset |
That's also why I'm in the midst of setting up 3.8.1 in a VM. |
| 15:52 |
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mtompset |
That will give me an idea of how much those particular files have changed. |
| 15:55 |
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mtompset |
losing blood sugar subscribing to all these lists... ;) |
| 15:55 |
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oleonard |
mtompset: Why change reset-fonts-grids.css when you can override it with a custom stylesheet? |
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mtompset |
I would... if I knew where to easily. |
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mtompset |
I wanted it done quickly. :P |
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oleonard |
intranetstylesheet system preference, or IntranetUserCSS system preference |
| 15:57 |
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oleonard |
Quickly now will turn into time-consuming later. |
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mtompset |
Perhaps... so you are saying that if I put my tweak from the reset-grids.css into the stylesheet that I set up with those system preferences, it will over-ride it? |
| 15:58 |
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oleonard |
yes |
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mtompset |
Because it seemed like some of those sheet were overriding what i was putting into my custom sheet. |
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mtompset |
I'll try cleaning that up... |
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mtompset |
See if it works... later. |
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oleonard |
use the intranetcolorstylesheet if your stylesheet is on your Koha server. use intranetstylesheet if it's at another URL. use IntranetUserCSS if you want the CSS embedded on each page |
| 16:01 |
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mtompset |
Okay... this is useful info... now how to save it somewhere to look at.... today. :) |
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gaetan_B |
bye ! |
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mtompset |
Bye. :) |
| 16:03 |
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mtompset |
Okay... does anyone here know about the mess that is Zebra? |
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jcamins |
mtompset: "Know" is kind of a strong word. |
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mtompset |
I'm trying to figure out why certain options aren't behaving as expected... perhaps I don't understand the queue or something. |
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mtompset |
I add an item |
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mtompset |
-b -a... doesn't show up. |
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mtompset |
-b -a -r... does show up. |
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mtompset |
Delete an item... |
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mtompset |
-b -a -z doesn't remove |
| 16:05 |
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jcamins |
searching faq? |
| 16:05 |
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wahanui |
searching faq is probably at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/ |
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mtompset |
-b -a -r does remove. |
| 16:05 |
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jcamins |
You should take a look in that document. It's probably a permissions issue. |
| 16:05 |
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mtompset |
I read the documentation... it is drastically lacking explanation. |
| 16:06 |
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kf |
patches to the documentation are welcome |
| 16:06 |
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jcamins |
You followed the troubleshooting steps that describe this exact problem? |
| 16:06 |
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mtompset |
give me the URL... I probably did. |
| 16:06 |
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jcamins |
I just did. |
| 16:07 |
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jcamins |
Third question from the end. |
| 16:07 |
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mtompset |
environment variables are fine. |
| 16:08 |
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mtompset |
it is running as the koha user |
| 16:08 |
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mtompset |
right there... what directory permissions? |
| 16:09 |
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jcamins |
Everything must be owned by your Koha user. |
| 16:09 |
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jcamins |
/var/lib/koha/* |
| 16:10 |
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mtompset |
yep, it is. |
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mtompset |
how do I know I'm not running the zebraqueue daemon? |
| 16:10 |
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jcamins |
Did you start it? |
| 16:10 |
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jcamins |
ps ax | grep zeb |
| 16:11 |
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jcamins |
If you see anything that looks like zebraqueue, you are. |
| 16:11 |
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mtompset |
3224 ? Ss 0:00 daemon --name=koha-zebra-ctl.kohadata --errlog=/var/log/koha/koha-zebradaemon.err --stdout=/var/log/koha/koha-zebradaemon.log --output=/var/log/koha/koha-zebradaemon-output.log --verbose=1 --respawn --delay=30 --user=koha koha -- /usr/bin/zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml 3226 ? S 0:00 /usr/bin/zebr |
| 16:11 |
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mtompset |
nothing with a que in it. |
| 16:12 |
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jcamins |
Okay, that's correct. |
| 16:13 |
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jcamins |
How did you install Koha, out of curiosity? |
| 16:13 |
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mtompset |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/Koha_on_Ubuntu |
| 16:14 |
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mtompset |
I read about the zebraqueue being flaky so chose the crontab way of doing it. |
| 16:14 |
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liw |
jcamins, you called? |
| 16:14 |
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mtompset |
sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -v –full `/usr/sbin/koha-list` |
| 16:14 |
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mtompset |
That's in the DEBIAN scripts. |
| 16:15 |
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mtompset |
the script remaps -full to -b -a -r |
| 16:16 |
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jcamins |
liw: yes, I'm trying to make a metapackage, and I was wondering if there was any way to have a metapackage with a changelog. It seems like when I add a changelog, it requires a rules file, and I don't want to install anything. |
| 16:16 |
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jcamins |
mtompset: so you used packages? |
| 16:17 |
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mtompset |
yep... wget the latest. |
| 16:17 |
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mtompset |
Which seems to be ancient now. :) |
| 16:17 |
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jcamins |
There are frequent updates. |
| 16:17 |
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liw |
jcamins, I've used empty packages as metapackages, which means there's no files in them, except /usr/share/doc/$PACKAGE/copyright and changelog.gz |
| 16:17 |
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jcamins |
So in order to rebuild Zebra you are running `sudo koha-rebuild-zebra koha`? |
| 16:18 |
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jcamins |
liw: do you have an example debian/rules file? |
| 16:18 |
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jcamins |
(for that) |
| 16:18 |
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mtompset |
No... I'm running UBUNTU. :) |
| 16:19 |
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mtompset |
rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -r |
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mtompset |
/usr |
| 16:19 |
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mtompset |
AH! I had to // |
| 16:19 |
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jcamins |
mtompset: okay, then why were you running koha-rebuild-zebra? |
| 16:19 |
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liw |
jcamins, "bzr branch http://code.liw.fi/env-liw/bzr/trunk/ env-liw.trunk" should give you something that works for me |
| 16:19 |
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mtompset |
/usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/ |
| 16:20 |
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mtompset |
I'm not... |
| 16:20 |
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mtompset |
I'm saying the instructions in the FAQ are debian biased. |
| 16:20 |
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mtompset |
And that I read the script |
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jcamins |
mtompset: okay. |
| 16:20 |
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mtompset |
and that it remaps -full to ... |
| 16:20 |
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mtompset |
/usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -r |
| 16:20 |
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jcamins |
Right. -b -a -r is correct. |
| 16:21 |
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mtompset |
But -r is a FULL reindex. |
| 16:21 |
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jcamins |
liw: thanks! |
| 16:21 |
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mtompset |
Isn't -z supposed to be a partial reindex? |
| 16:22 |
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mtompset |
If I add something, shouldn't that get into the zebraqueue somehow, so that -z would pick it up? |
| 16:22 |
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jcamins |
Yes. |
| 16:22 |
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mtompset |
I'm not talking importing a batch, I'm talking manually adding. |
| 16:23 |
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jcamins |
Right. |
| 16:23 |
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mtompset |
Okay.... so it isn't. |
| 16:23 |
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mtompset |
How do I determine where the failure is? |
| 16:23 |
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jcamins |
You can check in the zebraqueue table, try and figure out when done is being set to 1. |
| 16:24 |
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mtompset |
Hmm... co-ordinate with the user an add entry... watch the zebraqueue table. |
| 16:25 |
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mtompset |
oh sucky! |
| 16:25 |
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mtompset |
I see some error logs. |
| 16:26 |
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mtompset |
Oops... should have included the referer part... |
| 16:26 |
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mtompset |
NOT. |
| 16:27 |
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jcamins |
You missed a few steps. |
| 16:27 |
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jcamins |
And, what version of Ubuntu? |
| 16:27 |
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jcamins |
mtompset: you are missing some dependencies. |
| 16:27 |
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jcamins |
Run koha_perl_deps.pl -m |
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mtompset |
I don't think so... |
| 16:27 |
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mtompset |
I did a grep for use on the pl scripts and did a mass install. |
| 16:28 |
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mtompset |
I also did the dep check script. |
| 16:28 |
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jcamins |
And it said you had everything? |
| 16:28 |
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kf |
it looks like you are missing lingua snowball |
| 16:28 |
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kf |
or whatever that is called correctly |
| 16:28 |
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jcamins |
I think Lingua::Stem::Snowball is there, but one of its dependencies is missing. |
| 16:29 |
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mtompset |
Line 55 is part of the new() method. |
| 16:32 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #739 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 16:33 |
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mtompset |
C4::Search requires the snowball |
| 16:37 |
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mtompset |
I think I'll debug the problem later. |
| 16:38 |
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mtompset |
I think Snowball is being called with an undef parameter, and that causes things to get evil, because there are no undef checks. |
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wizzyrea |
weird, I run it on ubuntu and I don't have this problem |
| 16:41 |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8159: Fix error in kohastructure.sql <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3ca51cf9082ef4254> / Bug 7747 [FOLLOW-UP] Replace YUI autocomplete with jQueryUI <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]50d71940d160b5819> / Bug 7747 - Replace YUI autocomplete with jQueryUI <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]=koha.git;a=commi |
| 16:41 |
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wizzyrea |
but then again i have all of my dependencies. |
| 16:42 |
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slef |
I've been staring at this too long. When someone says classification number, is that items.fullcallnumber in Koha or something else? |
| 16:42 |
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wizzyrea |
did you check more -> about -> then click the "perl modules" tab |
| 16:42 |
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wizzyrea |
do you have anything missing? |
| 16:42 |
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jcamins |
slef: it depends, but *probably* something else. |
| 16:43 |
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slef |
jcamins: what would be your favourite bet? |
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jcamins |
I'd guess 082$a. |
| 16:44 |
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slef |
@marc 082 a |
| 16:44 |
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huginn` |
slef: Classification number (Repeatable) |
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slef |
heh |
| 16:44 |
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jcamins |
Of course, it could be that they're using those as the fullcallnumber, too. |
| 16:44 |
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slef |
ok let me go look at what went in there before... thanks jcamins |
| 16:44 |
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jcamins |
You're welcome. |
| 16:44 |
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slef |
no they don't look like fullcallnumber to me... I'm trying to figure out what to put in fullcallnumber too |
| 16:45 |
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jcamins |
What do the number look like? |
| 16:46 |
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mtompset |
What's the difference between bold items and non-bold items, wizzyrea? |
| 16:46 |
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slef |
hehe. Examples include "371.9144 TOW" and "Reading age 6-9yrs. Interest level 7-10yrs" |
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wizzyrea |
I think required for koha use, and required for specific function |
| 16:46 |
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wizzyrea |
for example |
| 16:46 |
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slef |
mbalmer? |
| 16:46 |
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wahanui |
mbalmer is DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS!!!!! |
| 16:46 |
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slef |
mbalmer: was I talking to you about SIP a while ago? |
| 16:47 |
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mbalmer |
slef, yes? |
| 16:47 |
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mbalmer |
yes! |
| 16:47 |
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wizzyrea |
SMS::Send, you don't need for normal koha operation |
| 16:47 |
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mbalmer |
I will be in Edinburgh next week |
| 16:47 |
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wizzyrea |
it's not bold. |
| 16:47 |
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jcamins |
slef: okay, that's fullcallnumber. |
| 16:47 |
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mbalmer |
and wahanui is wrong. that one is ballmer, with to l |
| 16:48 |
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slef |
mbalmer: do you want to take an hour or two out to do a sip3 teleconference with 3M? |
| 16:48 |
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mtompset |
Okay... |
| 16:48 |
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mtompset |
So what version of Lingua::Stem::Snowball do you have? |
| 16:48 |
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mbalmer |
sure. in edinburgh of before? |
| 16:48 |
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wizzyrea |
.0952 |
| 16:48 |
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jcamins |
slef: that's probably fullcallnumber, and you need to extract the numeric bit to stick in 082$a. |
| 16:49 |
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mtompset |
As do I... I noticed it uses Carp and Exporter. |
| 16:49 |
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mtompset |
Do you know what versions you have of those? |
| 16:49 |
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wizzyrea |
basically, if it's red and says "not installed" |
| 16:49 |
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wizzyrea |
then you have a problem. |
| 16:49 |
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mtompset |
All mine are black. |
| 16:50 |
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mtompset |
Most are bold. |
| 16:50 |
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mtompset |
Can you tell me your versions of Carp and Exporter? |
| 16:51 |
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mtompset |
Because line 55 has $self->_derive_stemmer |
| 16:51 |
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mtompset |
And I can't find the definition of _derive_stemmer in the snowball. |
| 16:51 |
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mtompset |
So, I figure it must be in Carp or Exporter |
| 16:51 |
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slef |
mbalmer: it'd be in edinburgh. I can forward you the invitation email. It's something silly like 3pm on the 5th June. |
| 16:51 |
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slef |
mbalmer: I can't do it for various reasons, but I didn't know if it would interest you. No worries if you would rather pay attention to conference. |
| 16:51 |
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slef |
mbalmer: message me your email address if you'd like me to forward it. |
| 16:51 |
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slef |
jcamins: yummy :-/ |
| 16:51 |
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wizzyrea |
http://screencast.com/t/iXqTjlSF |
| 16:52 |
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slef |
jcamins: of course, the list of biblionumber and these classifications is yet another file... |
| 16:52 |
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mtompset |
Carp and Exporter aren't listed there. |
| 16:52 |
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mtompset |
You have to look manually. |
| 16:53 |
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jcamins |
slef: awesome! |
| 16:53 |
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mbalmer |
slef, I will only join the event on june 6, so june 5 3pm I think I could attend from .ch. 3pm which timezone? |
| 16:53 |
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wizzyrea |
CGI::Carp is |
| 16:54 |
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mtompset |
not CGI::Carp |
| 16:54 |
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wizzyrea |
then it's not listed |
| 16:54 |
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mtompset |
Snowball says Carp and Exporter. |
| 16:54 |
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wizzyrea |
sounds like you've got it all figured out. |
| 16:54 |
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slef |
mbalmer: 3pm UK I think. The email gives it in US Eastern IIRC. |
| 16:54 |
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mtompset |
That's why i'm asking you what versions you have. |
| 16:55 |
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mtompset |
Perhaps newer versions break it. |
| 16:55 |
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mbalmer |
slef, that sounds like I could be available. Thanks for letting me know about it, btw! |
| 16:56 |
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wizzyrea |
lingua probably has it's own dependencies that you are missing. they might not be listed in the koha dependencies. |
| 16:57 |
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mtompset |
Yes.... and they are Carp and Exporter. |
| 16:57 |
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mtompset |
I'm looking at the code. |
| 16:57 |
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mtompset |
I would like to know what versions you have. |
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| 17:02 |
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mtompset |
Well, I'm off. |
| 17:02 |
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mtompset |
Thanks for the help and suggestions. |
| 17:02 |
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mtompset |
Too bad it didn't solve everything, but it gave me some ideas. |
| 17:05 |
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oleonard |
mtompset: I have a standard install of Ubuntu 12.04 and a by-the-book installation of Koha and I don't have a problem with Snowball. This suggests a problem with dependencies on your machine. |
| 17:08 |
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mtompset |
I agree. |
| 17:08 |
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mtompset |
But finding them is going to be a pain. |
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mtompset |
I don't want to reinstall from scratch. |
| 17:09 |
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mtompset |
Not when the system is being used to get the data current before going live. |
| 17:09 |
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mtompset |
Anyways... have a good day (24 hour period) everyone. |
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slef |
"Your PayPal Account Access Has Been Restored" |
| 17:13 |
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schuster |
wizzyrea_away you back? |
| 17:14 |
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jcamins |
Woohoo! |
| 17:14 |
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* jcamins |
throws a Paypal party. |
| 17:15 |
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slef |
jcamins: TimeWorked: 262 minutes |
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* liw |
runs: gedit obnam-1.0-announcement.mdwn |
| 17:17 |
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liw |
egh, sorry, wrong channel |
| 17:18 |
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jcamins |
Ooh, obnam 1.0 is released? Cool! |
| 17:18 |
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liw |
jcamins, not until tomorrow, I just want to draft the announcement now |
| 17:18 |
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* Oak |
googles obnam |
| 17:19 |
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kf |
slef: yay! |
| 17:19 |
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Oak |
slef++ |
| 17:19 |
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Oak |
stop sulking now |
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* Oak |
gives slef ice cream |
| 17:20 |
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slef |
Oak: when we get the money out... |
| 17:21 |
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Oak |
ah yes |
| 17:21 |
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slef |
I don't think that was a scam email but... ;) |
| 17:21 |
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Oak |
let's put the ice cream back in the fridge then |
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Oak |
:) hm |
| 17:21 |
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slef |
I'll do that in a mo |
| 17:22 |
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kf |
slef++ :) |
| 17:23 |
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Oak |
kf time to go home |
| 17:24 |
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kf |
I know, but still have to do some things |
| 17:24 |
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Oak |
things will never end, you know |
| 17:25 |
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jcamins |
kf: Oak is right about that. |
| 17:25 |
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kf |
2 weeks vacation starting next week |
| 17:25 |
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Oak |
:) |
| 17:25 |
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Oak |
fine, you win |
| 17:25 |
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mbalmer |
woa |
| 17:26 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #739: UNSTABLE in 53 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/739/ |
| 17:26 |
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jenkins_koha |
* kyle: Bug 8140 - [SIGNED-OFF] Error when exporting label xml |
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jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Bug 7747 - Replace YUI autocomplete with jQueryUI |
| 17:26 |
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jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Bug 7747 [FOLLOW-UP] Replace YUI autocomplete with jQueryUI |
| 17:26 |
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jenkins_koha |
* jcamins: Bug 8159: Fix error in kohastructure.sql |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8140 blocker, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Error when exporting label xml |
| 17:26 |
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mbalmer |
is that deserved, kf ;) ? |
| 17:26 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7747 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Replace YUI autocomplete with jQueryUI |
| 17:26 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8159 critical, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Error in kohastructure.sql |
| 17:27 |
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jcamins |
What do you mean, Jenkins build became unstable? |
| 17:28 |
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kf |
mbalmer: deserved or not, I need one :) |
| 17:28 |
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mbalmer |
heh...;) |
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* magnuse |
discovers "prove -m -Q --formatter=TAP::Formatter::HTML" |
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kf |
magnuse: what does that do? |
| 17:45 |
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Oak |
kf it sends people home who work too much |
| 17:45 |
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magnuse |
kf: formatts the output of prove nicely as an html page |
| 17:46 |
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Oak |
and that too |
| 17:46 |
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Oak |
of course |
| 17:48 |
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kf |
lol |
| 17:48 |
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kf |
Oak++ .) |
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Oak |
:) |
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mtompset |
I couldn't sleep knowing there was a bug. |
| 18:00 |
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mtompset |
I found it! |
| 18:00 |
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mtompset |
There's a typo in addbooks.pl |
| 18:01 |
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mtompset |
Hello? |
| 18:01 |
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mtompset |
Is there where I mail one of the lists and tell them about it? |
| 18:02 |
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jcamins |
Well, first you have to confirm that it hasn't already been fixed. |
| 18:02 |
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jwagner |
Check bugzilla to be sure it hasn't already been reported, and then create a bug report for it |
| 18:02 |
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jwagner |
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/ |
| 18:02 |
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jcamins |
If it hasn't been, you report a bug for it. |
| 18:05 |
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mtompset |
I've got 3.8.1 -- 3.8.5 is the most current? |
| 18:05 |
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jcamins |
3.8.1 is the most current on the 3.8.x line, and 3.6.5 is the most current on the 3.6.x line. |
| 18:05 |
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jcamins |
mtompset: weren't you on 3.6.3 about an hour ago? |
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wizzyrea_away |
schuster - back now |
| 18:05 |
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mtompset |
I have two versions. |
| 18:05 |
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mtompset |
3.6.3 is the one being used. |
| 18:06 |
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mtompset |
I checked 3.8.1 which I'm tinkering with on the side. |
| 18:06 |
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mtompset |
They both have the same bug |
| 18:07 |
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mtompset |
To think a tiny \ can make a big difference! |
| 18:07 |
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mtompset |
If you go to Cataloguing. |
| 18:07 |
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mtompset |
Then do a search. |
| 18:08 |
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mtompset |
You will trigger the error in the error log. |
| 18:08 |
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mtompset |
But all the other searches don't trigger the error. |
| 18:08 |
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mtompset |
Only the search from Cataloguing. |
| 18:08 |
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wizzyrea |
wait what's the actual problem |
| 18:09 |
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wizzyrea |
the first question? |
| 18:09 |
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wahanui |
"What are you trying to do?" "What is the goal?" or "What problem are you experiencing?" |
| 18:09 |
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mtompset |
No apparent problem. |
| 18:09 |
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mtompset |
My goal is to stop error messages from filling the error log. |
| 18:09 |
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wizzyrea |
oh, that's noble. |
| 18:09 |
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wizzyrea |
(seriously :)) |
| 18:09 |
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mtompset |
Because the search appears to work for the end user. |
| 18:10 |
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mtompset |
buildQuery(\@operators,\@operands,\@indexes,@limits,\@sort_by,undef,undef); |
| 18:10 |
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mtompset |
See the @limits? There's no \ on it. |
| 18:11 |
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mtompset |
my @operands = $operands ? @$operands : (); my @limits = $limits ? @$limits : (); my @sort_by = $sort_by ? @$sort_by : (); |
| 18:11 |
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* wizzyrea |
checks that on her 3.9 system… sec |
| 18:11 |
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mtompset |
Looks ugly, but as you can see the buildQuert code treats indexes, limits, and sort_by the same. |
| 18:12 |
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mtompset |
buildQuery... |
| 18:12 |
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jcamins |
mtompset: buildQuery is a rather horrifying routine, alas. |
| 18:12 |
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wizzyrea |
what was the error you were seeing |
| 18:12 |
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mtompset |
The snowball one. |
| 18:12 |
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* wizzyrea |
does not get that one |
| 18:13 |
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wizzyrea |
I do however get this one: [Thu May 31 13:25:02 2012] [error] [client 192.168.1.137] [Thu May 31 13:25:02 2012] addbooks.pl: Illegal date specified (year = 2007, month = 7, day = 00) at /home/liz/kohaclone/C4/Search.pm line 1656, referer: http://koha-staff.lan.nekls.or[…]guing/addbooks.pl |
| 18:13 |
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wizzyrea |
but the search works. |
| 18:13 |
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wizzyrea |
that *could* be bad data. |
| 18:14 |
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mtompset |
Really? Maybe they fixed it in a later version. |
| 18:14 |
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wizzyrea |
well this is juuuuust beyond 3.8.1 |
| 18:14 |
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wizzyrea |
I highly doubt it. |
| 18:14 |
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mtompset |
I'll bug report it. |
| 18:14 |
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wizzyrea |
probably the best plan |
| 18:14 |
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mtompset |
I did a search for addbooks.pl |
| 18:14 |
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mtompset |
Saw only 7 bugs. |
| 18:15 |
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wizzyrea |
mm, try cataloging search |
| 18:15 |
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wizzyrea |
too. |
| 18:16 |
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mtompset |
Okay.... I guess the person might not have narrowed it down to addbooks.pl |
| 18:17 |
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wizzyrea |
probably not - we get all levels of users reporting bugs. |
| 18:17 |
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wizzyrea |
(it is both glorious and occasionally frustrating) |
| 18:17 |
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wizzyrea |
but we deal :) |
| 18:17 |
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slef |
@query Illegal date specified |
| 18:17 |
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huginn` |
slef: No results for "Illegal date specified." |
| 18:18 |
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wizzyrea |
interestingly, i also get this one; [Thu May 31 13:31:15 2012] [error] [client 192.168.1.137] [Thu May 31 13:31:15 2012] addbooks.pl: Use of uninitialized value in numeric eq (==) at /home/liz/kohaclone/C4/XSLT.pm line 249., referer: http://koha-staff.lan.nekls.or[…].pl?q=addbooks.pl |
| 18:18 |
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wizzyrea |
not even the same thing! |
| 18:18 |
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wizzyrea |
and the other error didn't recur. |
| 18:19 |
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mtompset |
Which probably ties to the same bug... |
| 18:19 |
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wizzyrea |
different query |
| 18:19 |
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slef |
@query Use of uninitialized value in numeric eq |
| 18:19 |
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huginn` |
slef: No results for "Use of uninitialized value in numeric eq." |
| 18:19 |
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slef |
huginn`: you're a bit useless today. |
| 18:19 |
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huginn` |
slef: downloading the Perl source |
| 18:21 |
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mtompset |
wizzyrea, could you take a look at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/cataloguing/addbooks.pl and tell me if there is a \ on the @limits? |
| 18:21 |
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wizzyrea |
yep |
| 18:21 |
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mtompset |
line 75 |
| 18:22 |
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wizzyrea |
no slash |
| 18:22 |
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jcamins |
Bah. I stuck the apt repo on an old VPS, and apparently a lot of people (including me) decided to hit it at the same time, bringing it down. |
| 18:23 |
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wizzyrea |
putting it in doesn't make the error go away |
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slef |
mtompset: line 1038 of /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Search.pm does suggest it should have a \ I think |
| 18:24 |
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jcamins |
Oh, it certainly needs the \. |
| 18:25 |
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slef |
mtompset: without it, the rest of the parameters to buildQuery will be ignored IIRC |
| 18:25 |
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mtompset |
It will dereference incorrectly. |
| 18:26 |
|
mtompset |
Perhaps... |
| 18:26 |
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mtompset |
Anyways... |
| 18:26 |
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mtompset |
It solves one thing, but not what I was hoping for yet. |
| 18:28 |
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Oak |
but still |
| 18:28 |
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Oak |
mtompset++ |
| 18:28 |
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Oak |
jcamins, is it up now? |
| 18:29 |
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mtompset |
Oh sucky! I have to register for bugzilla too?! |
| 18:29 |
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kf |
yes |
| 18:29 |
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kf |
bye all :) |
| 18:29 |
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Oak |
finally |
| 18:29 |
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jcamins |
Oak: it was briefly. |
| 18:29 |
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Oak |
bye kf |
| 18:29 |
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jcamins |
Then I think it went back down. |
| 18:29 |
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wizzyrea |
later kf |
| 18:29 |
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kf |
Oak: :P |
| 18:29 |
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Oak |
hmm. |
| 18:30 |
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| 18:30 |
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wizzyrea |
I'm really wondering if these errors, at least the date one |
| 18:30 |
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wizzyrea |
I think it's bad data. |
| 18:30 |
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wizzyrea |
bc it only happens on one specific query. |
| 18:31 |
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wizzyrea |
yep, I found the offending record. |
| 18:31 |
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wizzyrea |
also - jcamins- this may interest you |
| 18:31 |
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wizzyrea |
[Thu May 31 13:42:11 2012] [error] [client 192.168.1.137] [Thu May 31 13:42:11 2012] detail.pl: Use of uninitialized value $countanalytics in numeric gt (>) at /home/liz/kohaclone/catalogue/detail.pl line 256., referer: http://koha-staff.lan.nekls.or[…]?biblionumber=915 |
| 18:32 |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: a patch was submitted for that. |
| 18:32 |
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wizzyrea |
k |
| 18:32 |
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wizzyrea |
just checking. |
| 18:32 |
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Oak |
me go now. sleep time. |
| 18:32 |
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Oak |
wizzyrea++ |
| 18:32 |
|
Oak |
jcamins++ |
| 18:34 |
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wizzyrea |
pf I didn't do anything |
| 18:34 |
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slef |
wahanui: manual |
| 18:34 |
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wahanui |
manual is at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation |
| 18:37 |
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mtompset |
is wahanui a bot? |
| 18:38 |
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jcamins |
Yup. |
| 18:38 |
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mtompset |
Bug 8172 added. :) |
| 18:38 |
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wizzyrea |
a pretty clever one. |
| 18:38 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8172 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Missing dereference marker for buildQuery parameter in addbooks.pl |
| 18:41 |
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mtompset |
Is huginn` a bot too? |
| 18:41 |
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sekjal |
yup |
| 18:42 |
|
* sekjal |
is coding in a bar again… everyone watch out! |
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wizzyrea |
LOOKOUT |
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slef |
sekjal: | is a pipe, not a bar |
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slef |
wahanui: bots? |
| 18:43 |
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wahanui |
bots are listed at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars |
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slef |
wahanui: ta |
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wahanui |
slef: i'm not following you... |
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slef |
wahanui: thank you |
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wahanui |
slef: sure thing |
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slef |
wahanui: como Nicholas Cage en Leaving Las Vegas... |
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wahanui |
slef: what? |
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slef |
wahanui: idiot |
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wahanui |
slef: huh? |
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slef |
wahanui: die! |
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wahanui |
errrrgh arrrrgh stop it that tickles a bit! |
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magnuse |
lol |
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wizzyrea |
he's almost sentient. |
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jcamins |
#introduction |
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jcamins |
#introductions |
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jcamins |
#topic Introductions |
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wahanui |
#info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient |
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jcamins |
^^ see. |
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wizzyrea |
oh, no almost about it. :) |
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sekjal |
does anyone recall the latest verdict on management of Lists belonging to deleted users? |
| 18:52 |
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sekjal |
I believe they can only be dealt with by the Koha root user… is that true? |
| 18:53 |
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jcamins |
sekjal: right now, yes. |
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sekjal |
great, thanks jcamins |
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jcamins |
sekjal: marcelr's been fixing the list permissions slowly but surely to fix that, though. |
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sekjal |
working on bug 8164, and that's one of the areas where testing will be needed |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8164 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Replace IFNULL() with COALESCE() in all database calls |
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mtompset |
Goodbye, everyone. Talk with you later. |
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sekjal |
argh! Why is there a Unicode character for "pile of poo", but not for a shopping cart?! |
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jcamins |
lol |
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cait |
lobby? |
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mbalmer |
its the same. |
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sekjal |
… is "Save to your lists" broken on opac-detail.pl ? |
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sekjal |
I'm getting a 404 |
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jcamins |
sekjal: it wasn't when I tested marcelr's patch yesterdayish. |
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sekjal |
hmmm… could just by my config, I suppose |
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sekjal |
I'm on a pretty stark test DB |
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sekjal |
hmmm… it's not the most recent change to opac-addbybiblionumber.pl |
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jcamins |
sekjal: I'm not sure if the patch was pushed. |
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jcamins |
(yet) |
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sekjal |
not yet |
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sekjal |
there was one circ March 22 |
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sekjal |
that's not it |
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sekjal |
ah, well. time to go |
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sekjal |
later, all! |
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rangi |
Morning |
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cait |
morning rangi :) |
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wizzyrea |
peeps - please remember to check on your stuff in failed qa |
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wizzyrea |
there's lots of good stuff in there that needs to get in |
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rangi |
Can u mail koha-devel |
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rangi |
I suspect this is the choir in here :) |
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wizzyrea |
yes. I will do that |
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rangi |
Thanks |
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wajasu |
i'm working on a script that builds a libvirt based vm (kvm in my case) for debiansqueeze. as long as you have a bridge already configured to the internet, it will build debiansqueeze(standard+mysql-server+mysql-client+web-server) with no prompts using a preseed.cfg. I'm going to add koha's deb, and later git. the image can be reused as a base image, or hopefully for one-off patch work. |
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wizzyrea |
oo, cool. |
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cait |
wizzyrea++ :) |
| 19:53 |
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wizzyrea |
what?! |
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wizzyrea |
what'd I do |
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cait |
write a good mail? :) |
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wajasu |
then maybe one could grab the image, boot it, sync with git master, make fix, test, make git commit, run a kohapatch script to prepare the patch and instruct on how to a) push to bug report, b) send to list serv, etc, also, a script could pull and patch the vm just like sandbox.pl does. |
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cait |
having a lovely signature? "I geek koha"? being awesome? |
| 19:56 |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
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wizzyrea |
well thank you :) |
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rangi |
wasaju++ |
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rangi |
slef: around? |
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slef |
rangi: momentarily, bbi30 after that |
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rangi |
Get my email? |
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slef |
rangi: get my reply? |
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slef |
(oonly just sent) |
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rangi |
Cool will look |
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rangi |
Sweet ill email them back when I get to work thanks |
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rangi |
morning kathryn |
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kathryn |
morning rangi :) |
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kathryn |
and morning all |
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Elay |
Wow. I'm finally here. Sorry for the interruption. |
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rangi |
heya Elay :) |
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rangi |
Elay = lenora .. say hi everyone who is still awake :) |
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* rangi |
is chris c |
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Elay |
I'm at the StreamNet Library, Portland, Oregon, U.S. |
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jcamins |
Hi Elay. |
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rangi |
now you are on irc, you can join us for meetings and stuff in the future if you want too :) |
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Elay |
what, participate? |
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rangi |
hehe |
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rangi |
it's a crazy concept! |
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Elay |
Can I just say that I LOVE Koha? |
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cait |
hi Elay |
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rangi |
you can stay then :) |
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cait |
and morning kathryn |
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cait |
:) |
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Elay |
And now, I want to learn to code so I can play even more... |
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Elay |
Hi, cait & jcamins |
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rangi |
got your email Elay |
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Elay |
My family all code in various languages, except Perl. |
| 20:37 |
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Elay |
So, I'm really just giving in. Resistance is futile. |
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rangi |
so the file you want to look at is C4/Templates.pm |
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Elay |
Hm. |
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rangi |
now the trick is, you use windows eh? |
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rangi |
hmm darn owen has gone home |
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Elay |
I've got putty. |
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rangi |
ohh cool |
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Elay |
My tech support person is weaning me off Windows to linux |
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rangi |
good person |
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Elay |
Trick is to get to where I need to be |
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rangi |
friends don't let friends use proprietary software ;-) |
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Elay |
Love that. I'm putting that on my favorite quotes. |
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rangi |
so, do you know if on your linux box that you can connect to with putty, if there is a git checkout of koha? |
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* kathryn |
waves at cait :) |
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Elay |
I connect to my server via Putty |
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rangi |
cool |
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Elay |
so, question is, I have command prompt, how to I get to directory (DOS days are so far gone) |
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Elay |
I know that ages me. |
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rangi |
so we could edit the patch in situ on the server, but then a plague of sysadmins would reign fire down on me for telling you to do that |
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rangi |
rain |
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rangi |
even |
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rangi |
Elay: cd |
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Elay |
so would my sysadmin |
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rangi |
cd /where/i/want/to/go |
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Elay |
ls gives me nothing, so I have no directories? |
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Elay |
dir gives me |
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rangi |
ls |
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Elay |
bin dev etc initrd.img lost+found mnt proc sbin srv temp var |
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rangi |
not dir |
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Elay |
boot Docs home lib media opt root selinux sys usr vmlinuz |
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rangi |
well dir might work if someone has been nice to you, and aliased it :) |
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rangi |
what user to do you login as? |
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Elay |
whatever sysadmin gave me |
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rangi |
ahh |
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Elay |
damn, I'm lame |
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rangi |
type |
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rangi |
whoami |
| 20:44 |
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rangi |
then |
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rangi |
pwd |
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rangi |
pwd will tell where you are |
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Elay |
oftl |
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Elay |
at /home/oftl |
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Elay |
Can I download the software to a local drive rather than trying to retrieve from server? |
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rangi |
yep |
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rangi |
thats why i was wanting to see if owen was around, he uses git in windows .. i don't know how to do that im afraid |
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jcamins |
rangi: he does? |
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jcamins |
He's a saint! |
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rangi |
well maybe not anymore, he did once tho |
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Elay |
can't I put in a partition and split my drive for a linux side or is that way too hard? |
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rangi |
oh, you could put a linux virtualmachine on |
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rangi |
thats what a lot of people do |
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rangi |
chris_n: do you do that? |
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rangi |
im pretty much useless for anything to do with windows im afraid |
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rangi |
actually cait does i think |
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cait |
I do what? :) |
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cait |
we are using windows at work, so I have a virtualbox with koha there |
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rangi |
have a linux virtual machine on linux |
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jcamins |
I'd recommend Virtualbox. |
| 20:51 |
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rangi |
that |
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jcamins |
That's how cait does it. |
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cait |
well... if cait is not messing it up... like she did yesterday :( |
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cait |
but that was my fault, it used to work pretty nicely |
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rangi |
https://www.virtualbox.org/ |
| 20:52 |
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* jcamins |
successfully created a Koha test AMI for himself. |
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Elay |
Windows hosts? |
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cait |
windows is the host |
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cait |
and linux will be the guest :) |
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Elay |
Gotcha |
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jcamins |
The problem is probably Ubuntu 12.04, not user error. |
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jcamins |
Unfortunately, that's the extent of my wisdom. |
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rangi |
annoying |
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jcamins |
Yeah. I can't really offer that as "advice" on the mailing list. |
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Elay |
Whoops. VirtualMachine cut off some of my connections on install. |
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rangi |
helpful of it :) |
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cait |
ah sorry, I should have warned you |
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Elay |
eh, one of those things |
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cait |
next you should download your linux of choice |
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Elay |
debian.org? |
| 21:21 |
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jcamins |
Yes. |
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jcamins |
Debian is a very good choice. |
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cait |
I was using ubuntu in the past, but I think debian would be a good choice |
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rangi |
debian squeeze would be mine |
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* jcamins |
is on an anti-Ubuntu kick. |
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cait |
as I have to start over again anyway... I might try debian too :) |
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Elay |
I think sysadmin prefers debian squeeze as welll |
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rangi |
squeeze is rock solid |
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* jcamins |
has been setting up Squeeze servers all day. |
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jcamins |
We're on number... six? Seven? I last cont. |
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jcamins |
*count |
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wizzyrea |
has anyone ever gotten the SIP tests to run? |
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wizzyrea |
I'm trying to get them to, but I am failing. Miserably. |
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Elay |
i386? |
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wizzyrea |
is the target computer 32 bit or 64? |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: I have, but I don't remember what I did. |
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wizzyrea |
curses. |
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Elay |
xp |
| 21:26 |
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wizzyrea |
that means it's me. |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: it took a lot of work. |
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Elay |
lame, argh, I have fallen so far behind the friggin' curve |
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jcamins |
Elay: how much memory does it have? |
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Elay |
RAM is 3072 |
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Elay |
hard drive is 150 GB |
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jcamins |
Elay: in that case you might as well go with i386. |
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Elay |
oh, good. I guessed right! |
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* jcamins |
always uses amd64, but your computer is old enough that it might not be 64-bit. |
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Elay |
is 2 yo. But can't upgrade until 3. |
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jcamins |
And it's running XP? I thought XP was a 9yo OS. |
| 21:29 |
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jcamins |
Anyway, i386 will work just fine. :) |
| 21:30 |
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* jcamins |
hasn't used Windows in a very, very long time. |
| 21:30 |
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jcamins |
Probably got XP confused with something else. |
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rangi |
jcamins: vista sucked so much |
| 21:30 |
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rangi |
lots of ppl just stayed with xp |
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wizzyrea |
^^ |
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Elay |
I skipped right over Vista. |
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rangi |
yeah xp, until windows 7 |
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Elay |
But got DH a computer with it, partially as revenge |
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Elay |
Was very cruel, I know |
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rangi |
pretty much every IT dept i know did that |
| 21:31 |
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Elay |
cuz I broke my home laptop and now have to share his computer. |
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rangi |
:) |
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* wizzyrea |
imagines elay rubbing his/her hands together evilly |
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Elay |
karma sucks |
| 21:31 |
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wahanui |
sucks has neutral karma |
| 21:31 |
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Elay |
her |
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rangi |
i install linux on every computer i touch, fair warning if we ever meet at kohacon again :) |
| 21:32 |
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wizzyrea |
excellent, we can practice our evil laughs together. |
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Elay |
will already be done on my new laptop |
| 21:33 |
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* jcamins |
restores a 2.8GB Koha database. |
| 21:33 |
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Elay |
so, while we're waiting for download...should I go large (17") or smaller for new laptop? |
| 21:34 |
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Elay |
Have an android tablet already. Yes, I have bought into the Don't Be Evil Empire. |
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wizzyrea |
what are you going to use it for? |
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Elay |
website development |
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Elay |
coding if I ever get to learn Perl... |
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wizzyrea |
get a middle sized one. |
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wizzyrea |
travel a lot/ |
| 21:34 |
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wizzyrea |
? |
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Elay |
yes, but generally won't be doing much web or code while traveling |
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Elay |
so have tablet for travel. |
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wizzyrea |
so this laptop, will it sit on your lap much? |
| 21:35 |
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Elay |
all the time, have a very comfy recliner |
| 21:35 |
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wizzyrea |
get a middle sized one. |
| 21:35 |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
14 or 15 |
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wahanui |
15 |
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rangi |
get a zareason.com one |
| 21:36 |
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rangi |
:) |
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ibeardslee |
oh, and they have an NZ company now |
| 21:36 |
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rangi |
they do :) |
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jcamins |
Ooh. They have 16GB laptops. |
| 21:37 |
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rangi |
eythian has one jcamins |
| 21:38 |
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rangi |
mine is only a paltry 8GB |
| 21:38 |
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rangi |
i really like it tho |
| 21:38 |
|
* jcamins |
has 8GB in his laptop. |
| 21:38 |
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* wizzyrea |
too |
| 21:38 |
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jcamins |
Don't get me wrong, I'm very happy with the laptop. |
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jcamins |
But, there are days. |
| 21:38 |
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rangi |
i have https://zareason.com/shop/Alto-3880.html |
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rangi |
with debian squeeze and 8 gig |
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jcamins |
Like today. When I have 67MB of RAM free. |
| 21:38 |
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rangi |
its very nice |
| 21:39 |
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* cait |
has 8 too |
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jcamins |
(and 3GB swapped out, darn it) |
| 21:39 |
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jcamins |
Okay, but do they sell to the US? |
| 21:39 |
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ibeardslee |
yes |
| 21:39 |
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jcamins |
(not that I'm buying a laptop, I'm just curious) |
| 21:40 |
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jcamins |
Their website is a bit too minimalistic for my taste. |
| 21:40 |
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ibeardslee |
rangi and I are just excited that they are setting up shop in NZ, so we can now buy linux laptops |
| 21:40 |
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jcamins |
Oh, they're based in Berkeley. |
| 21:40 |
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Elay |
ok, Debian is done downloading |
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jcamins |
Wow. Their prices are kind of remarkable. |
| 21:44 |
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Elay |
What kind of disk do I want to create? |
| 21:44 |
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Elay |
VDI, VMDK, VHD, HDD |
| 21:45 |
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cait |
I think I used what was suggested, but someone might have better advice |
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jcamins |
I just use the default. |
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* jcamins |
realizes that he should have put home on a different volume. |
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jcamins |
Too late, of course. |
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Elay |
ok. time for me to go for today |
| 21:54 |
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Elay |
will work on the virtual machine later |
| 21:55 |
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rangi |
cool |
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rangi |
oh hey |
| 22:08 |
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rangi |
david nind is editing the wiki |
| 22:08 |
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rangi |
so it must be working for new users again |
| 22:08 |
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rangi |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ase_Announcements <-- good idea |
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jcamins |
Hey, is there any reason that Plack couldn't be chrooted? It seems to me that the web server does not need access to any (Koha-specific) files other than koha-conf.xml and /usr/share/koha. |
| 22:20 |
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cjh |
it would also need access to all the perl modules, but otherwise I cant think of any reason why not |
| 22:21 |
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rangi |
yeah chrooted should work |
| 22:23 |
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jcamins |
Seems to me like that might be a good idea. |
| 22:23 |
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rangi |
its not a bad idea |
| 22:27 |
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slef |
yengh... what do I need to send speakers? File formats, screen size, a link to the programme and a see-you-soon? |
| 22:29 |
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rangi |
yeah sounds good |
| 22:29 |
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rangi |
slef: mine is just html/javascript so should work on anything |
| 22:30 |
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rangi |
ill have my laptop, but am happy to just transfer it to the presentation machine too |
| 22:33 |
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* jcamins |
will probably record a video, so that there's a handout of sorts. |
| 22:34 |
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cjh |
are the presentations being recorded? |
| 22:37 |
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slef |
cjh: yes but no promises yet on quality, sadly |
| 22:37 |
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cjh |
worst case having access to the slides would work as well |
| 22:38 |
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slef |
if we can get the wifi up and there's enough power, I may be able to stream live |
| 22:39 |
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cjh |
so I can watch the presentations in my sleep ) |
| 22:39 |
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cjh |
that should |
| 22:39 |
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cjh |
sorry a bird is typing on my keyboard... that should've been a :) |
| 22:39 |
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slef |
http://bambuser.com/channel/mjray |
| 22:39 |
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slef |
is where it would be |
| 22:40 |
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cjh |
thanks :) |
| 22:40 |
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slef |
hey, it may all be different |
| 22:40 |
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slef |
I may be misleading you, getting my lies in early |
| 22:43 |
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eythian |
I'll probably be plugging my laptop in, especially for the hackfest part. |
| 22:43 |
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eythian |
I assume we'll have wifi for that, otherwise things won't work so well. |
| 22:44 |
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* eythian |
needs to write the hackfest part still |
| 22:44 |
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rangi |
oh yeah i meant just the kohacon bit |
| 22:44 |
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rangi |
and yeah me too |
| 22:44 |
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eythian |
I think that'll be today and tomorrow. |
| 22:47 |
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rangi |
actually i need to rejig my main talk a bit |
| 22:47 |
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eythian |
Mine needs review, as it's been a few days since I finished it. |
| 22:47 |
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eythian |
So I need to look at it fresh |
| 22:53 |
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slef |
I'm worried that we'll be bugfixing the wifi but it wouldn't be the first conference that's happened at. |
| 22:54 |
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slef |
but that's just me looking on the dark side again. |
| 22:54 |
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rangi |
:) worst comes to worst I can tether |
| 22:55 |
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slef |
it irritates me when I have to tether because the wifi is so obnoxious |
| 22:55 |
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slef |
but it happens a lot |
| 22:55 |
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rangi |
*nod* |
| 22:55 |
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slef |
it's like where I'm sat now |
| 22:56 |
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rangi |
holy crap |
| 22:56 |
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rangi |
how long has the save bar floated in the marc editor? |
| 22:56 |
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slef |
I'm on 3G dongle because it's cheaper than the wifi :-/ |
| 22:56 |
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rangi |
that's awesome! |
| 22:56 |
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slef |
since the blue 3.8 UI changes I think |
| 22:56 |
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* rangi |
likes |
| 22:56 |
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rangi |
having to scroll back to the top was a pet peeve |
| 22:57 |
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jcamins |
rangi: no, much longer. |
| 22:58 |
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slef |
page down pages down more than a page, though... not a big problem in the marc editor though, as most people don |
| 22:58 |
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slef |
t jump through that fast. |
| 22:58 |
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slef |
because the bit obscured by the floating bar isn't taken off of page-down distance by firefox |
| 22:59 |
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eythian |
definitely in 3.6 |
| 22:59 |
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eythian |
slef: what sort of data plans will a prepay SIM card have there? |
| 23:00 |
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jcamins |
eythian: any chance I could persuade you to set up an oldstable dist during the hackfest? :) |
| 23:00 |
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eythian |
jcamins: it seems like a plausible thing for me to do :) |
| 23:00 |
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eythian |
also larsw will be there to help me :) |
| 23:00 |
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eythian |
liw rather |
| 23:01 |
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jcamins |
:) |
| 23:02 |
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rangi |
speaking of which, after i have had a refresher of his tutorial i plan to run one here |
| 23:03 |
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eythian |
cool |
| 23:04 |
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jcamins |
I _really_ want that one to be recorded. |
| 23:04 |
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rangi |
:) |
| 23:04 |
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eythian |
jcamins: you could just come to Edinburgh you know. It's not far from where you are. |
| 23:04 |
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eythian |
relatively speaking. |
| 23:04 |
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eythian |
It's the same hemisphere even |
| 23:05 |
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jcamins |
lol |
| 23:10 |
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rangi |
bug 8171 confuses me |
| 23:10 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8171 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Improper escaping of quotes during z39.50 queries leads to potential malicious code execution |
| 23:11 |
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slef |
eythian: prepay for data only or in a phone? |
| 23:12 |
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eythian |
slef: phone |
| 23:12 |
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slef |
eythian: no clue, sorry. Have you tried the link on the wiki? If it doesn't help, I can ask around. |
| 23:12 |
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slef |
wahanui: kohacon12? |
| 23:12 |
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wahanui |
kohacon12 is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ategory:KohaCon12 or Conference Tue 5 June 2012 to Thu 7th, Hackfest Sat 9th June-Mon 11th June |
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slef |
eythian: it's on the summary page |
| 23:13 |
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eythian |
slef: no, it's OK. I was just wondering if you knew off the top of your head |
| 23:13 |
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eythian |
rangi: that bug is totally wrong |
| 23:13 |
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eythian |
I think the person doesn't know perl. |
| 23:13 |
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eythian |
(well, the quotes not working thing may be correct, but the rest of it not so much) |
| 23:13 |
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rangi |
yeah |
| 23:14 |
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slef |
eythian: looks like £10/Gb if you do it right, similar to prepay data-only, actually. |
| 23:14 |
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rangi |
updating now |
| 23:14 |
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slef |
(o2 web bolt-on) |
| 23:15 |
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eythian |
slef: that sounds ideal |
| 23:15 |
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slef |
http://www.o2.co.uk/tariffs/payandgo "The Works" |
| 23:15 |
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eythian |
more expensive than what I pay here, oddly enough :) |
| 23:16 |
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slef |
for prepay? |
| 23:16 |
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eythian |
but not terribly so |
| 23:16 |
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eythian |
not for prepay |
| 23:16 |
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eythian |
I have some bizarre non-stop promo plan |
| 23:16 |
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slef |
you get gouged on prepay |
| 23:16 |
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rangi |
yeah we sure do |
| 23:16 |
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eythian |
3GB/mo for NZ$40 |
| 23:16 |
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eythian |
near enough to £20 |
| 23:16 |
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slef |
heh I meant in the UK but never mind |
| 23:16 |
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eythian |
but it's not supposed to exist |
| 23:20 |
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slef |
coo... looks like o2 and 3 are cheapest... interesting to know |
| 23:21 |
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slef |
I think for customer service vodafone = t-mobile > o2 > 3 > orange |
| 23:22 |
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slef |
hmmm Tesco £7.50 for 1Gb for one month |
| 23:22 |
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slef |
but they're a bad company |
| 23:23 |
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slef |
Tescopoly.org - Every Little Hurts |
| 23:24 |
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slef |
bbl |
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