| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:09 |
|
jcamins |
3.6.x has been updated. |
| 00:09 |
|
jcamins |
Maybe. |
| 00:10 |
|
jcamins |
Yes. |
| 00:10 |
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melia left #koha |
| 00:11 |
|
jcamins |
@later tell chris_n I pushed an updated version of the get_bugs.pl script to my Github repo. |
| 00:11 |
|
huginn |
jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
| 00:13 |
|
jcamins |
rangi: there are scripts you might find useful in my github repository: https://github.com/jcamins/release-tools |
| 00:13 |
|
jcamins |
I may have already told you that. |
| 00:13 |
|
rangi |
thanks |
| 00:15 |
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JesseM joined #koha |
| 00:19 |
|
jenkins_koha |
Starting build #45 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 00:20 |
|
jcamins |
jenkins_koha: if 3.6.x does not build successfully, I shall be very put out. |
| 00:20 |
|
jenkins_koha |
jcamins did you mean me? Unknown command 'if' |
| 00:20 |
|
jenkins_koha |
Use '!jenkins help' to get help! |
| 00:21 |
|
jcamins |
rangi: if we used DBIx::Class, could we theoretically install Koha using sqlite? |
| 00:21 |
|
rangi |
theoretically yes |
| 00:22 |
|
rangi |
you could do some nice TAP type testing too, without a real db |
| 00:22 |
|
jcamins |
Mwahahahahaha! (that was an evil laugh) |
| 00:22 |
|
jcamins |
That was my thought. |
| 00:22 |
|
rangi |
Test::DBIx::Class |
| 00:23 |
|
rangi |
the nice thing with DBIx::Class is |
| 00:23 |
|
rangi |
its not an all or nothing thing |
| 00:23 |
|
rangi |
like a lot of ORM |
| 00:23 |
|
rangi |
you can use it where it makes sense, and ignore it where it doesnt |
| 00:24 |
|
jcamins |
The problem with my release test script is that it requires MySQL to be configured. |
| 00:24 |
|
rangi |
*nod* |
| 00:24 |
|
jcamins |
But I'm not trying to set up a system that is 100% functional. |
| 00:24 |
|
jcamins |
I want to test that the installer works. |
| 00:24 |
|
rangi |
mytap |
| 00:25 |
|
jcamins |
i.e. after running through the install, I have a database. |
| 00:25 |
|
rangi |
http://theory.github.com/mytap/ <-- not for this purpose but interesting nonetheless |
| 00:26 |
|
jcamins |
Interesting. |
| 00:34 |
|
chris_n |
'evening |
| 00:35 |
|
chris_n |
jcamins: thanks |
| 00:36 |
|
chris_n |
jcamins: pushed |
| 00:37 |
|
jcamins |
chris_n: thanks! |
| 01:02 |
|
jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.6.x build #45: SUCCESS in 43 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.6.x/45/ |
| 01:02 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* jcamins: Bug 7284: Authority matching improvements |
| 01:02 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* mjr: bug 7284: fix package build problem, move BEGIN into new |
| 01:02 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* jcamins: Bug 7284 follow-up: Update DBRev |
| 01:02 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Bug 7493 [REVISED] Deleting a record with comments breaks "Recent Comments" |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* jcamins: Bug 7493 follow-up: Update DBRev |
| 01:03 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Authority matching algorithm improvements |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* wizzyrea: Bug 7271 - change sort in items.pm to sort by home library instead of holding branch |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Bug 7629 - Update sco.css to include CSS Gradients and prevent error upon missing background image file |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* srdjan: Bug 6488: Display OPAC search result count conditional to OpacHiddenItems syspref |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Bug 7631 - Self checkout renewal fails because of reference to non-existent subroutine in sco-main.pl |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Bug 7645 - System preferences editor save button obscured by language chooser |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Bug 7636 - error when trying to email cart when opacuserlogin set to don't allow |
| 01:03 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7493 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Deleting a record with comments breaks "Recent Comments" |
| 01:03 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7271 normal, P3, ---, wizzyrea, Pushed to Master , Revert getitems default sort to homebranch instead of holding branch |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* wizzyrea: Bug 7665 - Bibs with no ISBN's show broken images for covers when using Syndetics cover images |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* f.demians: Bug 3216: UNIMARC author facets |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7609: Improving links to find analytics and volumes when using UseControlnumber (MARC21) |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* jcamins: Bug 7699: Restricted until datepicker broken |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* stephane.delaune: Bug 5749 Fix borrower address display in intranet |
| 01:03 |
|
jcamins |
Yay! |
| 01:03 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7629 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Update sco.css to include CSS Gradients and prevent error upon missing background image file. |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Bug 7644 - Invalid markup in staff client language chooser |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* m.de.rooy: 7368 Typo in cart_to_shelf |
| 01:03 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6488 critical, P2, ---, srdjan, RESOLVED FIXED, opachiddenitems not working in master |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* dcook: Bug 7618 Escape HTML special characters for SQL displayed above results in Report module |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* paul.poulain: welcome David Cook, you're 178th |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* kyle: Bug 7656 - "undefined" pop-up message when putting hold on reference item |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Bug 7670 - make required fields red |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* kyle: Bug 4976 - Status of item returned with process_koc.pl is empty in Intranet |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* srdjan: bug_7140: Added item description to complement icon to search result and biblio detail pages |
| 01:03 |
|
jcamins |
Success! |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* jcamins: Bug 7724: Skip Linker test if Zebra isn't set up |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* paul.poulain: welcome gaetan, you're 179th ! |
| 01:03 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7631 critical, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Self checkout renewal fails because of reference to non-existent subroutine in sco-main.pl |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* januszop: Bug 5657: Changes made to sub merge to eliminate errors occuring when updating bibio records in batch (after updating multiple authority records) |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7749: Not all OKs on the start page are translatable |
| 01:03 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7645 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , System preferences editor save button obscured by language chooser |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7734: NO_LIBRARY_SET should be translatable |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* magnus: Bug 7092 - Complete-subfield searches TraceCompleteSubfields syspref not working correctly |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* jcamins: Bug 7092 follow-up: Update DBRev |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* kyle: Bug 7597 - Part 1 - fines not recording the right info in the stats table |
| 01:03 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7636 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , error when trying to email cart when opacuserlogin set to don't allow |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* kyle: Bug 7597 - Part 2 - move sub writeoff to C4::Accounts |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* kyle: Bug 7597 - Part 3 - fines not recording the right info in the stats table |
| 01:03 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7665 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Bibs with no ISBN's show broken images for covers when using Syndetics cover images. |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* kyle: Bug 7597 - Part 4 - Change C4::Acounts::WriteOff to WriteOffFee |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* kyle: Bug 7597 - Part 5 - Remove my from $branch, which was masking previous declaration |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* maxime.pelletier: Bug 7581: Singlebranchmode was always 0 causing the branch to be null and the reservations in the OPAC not to work in singlebranchmode. |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7700: Cart's more details view shows identity numbers |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* adrien.saurat: Bug 7753: serials-home displays library name instead of code |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7746: "No Public Lists." not translatable. |
| 01:03 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3216 normal, P2, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , UNIMARC author facets |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7738: "Display more constraints' in subfield configuraiton is not properly translatable |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* jonathan.druart: Bug 5180: FIX autocomplete on overdues report |
| 01:03 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7609 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Improving links to find analytics and volumes when using UseControlnumber |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Bug 5482 - Translation problem in guided reports - Item field names |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 5482: Update colums.def file |
| 01:03 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7699 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Restricted until datepicker broken |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Bug 5482 [Follow up] Translation problem in guided reports - Item field names |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* adrien.saurat: Bug 6125: repairs dateaccessioned plugin |
| 01:03 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5749 normal, P4, ---, stephane.delaune, Pushed to Master , The display of borrower adresses composed of streetnumber, streettype and address is broken |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 5841: Routing slip not displaying publication date |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* f.demians: SIGNED-OFF Bug 7590 Cataloging authorities search result page is broken |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7760: Add unique ids and a module class to all acquisitions pages |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7760: Add unique ids and a module class to all authorities pages |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7760: Add unique ids and a module class to all administration pages |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7760: Add ids and classes to every staff page to help with customizaton (cart) |
| 01:03 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7644 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Invalid markup in staff client language chooser |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7760: Add ids and classes to every staff page to help with customizaton (batch, error) |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7760 - Add ids and classes to every staff page to help with customizaton (catalog) |
| 01:03 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7618 minor, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , HTML special characters break result table and incorrectly show SQL in Run This Report |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7760 - Add ids and classes to every staff page to help with customizaton (cataloguing) |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7760 - Add ids and classes to every staff page to help with customizaton (circulation) |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7760 - Add ids and classes to every staff page to help with customizaton (lists, suggestion, z39.50) |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7760 - Add ids and classes to every staff page to help with customization (patrons) |
| 01:03 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7656 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, Pushed to Master , "undefined" pop-up message when putting hold on reference item |
| 01:03 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7670 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , make required fields red in additem.pl |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7760: Add ids and classes to every staff page to help with customization (serials) |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7760 - Add ids and classes to every staff page to help with customization (tools) |
| 01:03 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4976 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Status of item returned with process_koc.pl is empty in Intranet |
| 01:03 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7724 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Tests requiring Zebra should be skipped if Zebra isn't set up |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7760 - Add ids and classes to every staff page to help with customization (patroncard, labels) |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7760 - Add ids and classes to every staff page to help with customization (reports, ...) |
| 01:03 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5657 normal, P3, ---, januszop, Pushed to Master , biblio records update fails when updating multiple authorities linked with the same biblio |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* paul.poulain: Bug 7780: make silent/verbose flag for translation installing |
| 01:03 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* jcamins: Bug 7702: [SIGNED-OFF] MARC21 heading tests should not run under UNIMARC |
| 01:03 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7749 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, RESOLVED FIXED, Not all OKs on the start page are translatable |
| 01:03 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7734 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, RESOLVED FIXED, NO_LIBRARY_SET should be translatable |
| 01:04 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* gaetan.boisson: Bug 7761 - cleaning up empty declarations from staff-global.css |
| 01:04 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7760: More ids and classes for the staff interface |
| 01:04 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* magnus: Bug 7727 - NORMARC XSLT OPAC detail view shows double tabs |
| 01:04 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* magnus: Bug 7837 - nb-NO z3950servers.sql misses column names |
| 01:04 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7092 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Complete-subfield searches TraceCompleteSubfields syspref not working correctly |
| 01:04 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7597 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , fines not recording the right info in the stats table |
| 01:04 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* magnus: Bug 7695 - Change boolean operator from "and" to "AND" |
| 01:04 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* kyle: Bug 7485 - Cannot edit barcode on Fast Add |
| 01:04 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 4819: Add ids to OPAC detail page |
| 01:04 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* magnus: Bug 7436 - Set itemtypes.rentalcharge = 0 in sample data for nb-NO and de-DE |
| 01:04 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7581 major, P3, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Holds not working in OPAC in singlebranchmode |
| 01:04 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* magnus: Bug 7537 - Implement TraceCompleteSubfields, TraceSubjectSubdivisions and UseICU for NORMARC XSLT |
| 01:04 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* jcamins: Bug 7617: Sort authority results by authid |
| 01:04 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* serhijdubyk: Bug 6434 - Ukrainian and Russian MARC sql-tables |
| 01:04 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 1662: Is there a difference between Full and Simplified for Serials History |
| 01:04 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7700 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Cart's more details view shows identity numbers |
| 01:04 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* adrien.saurat: Bug 7866: z39.50 search list ordered by rank |
| 01:04 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* wizzyrea: Bug 7888 - Permission for "change password" button in circ toolbar should be "borrowers" instead of "staffaccess" |
| 01:04 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7753 minor, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Master , when displaying serials, library name should be showed and not code |
| 01:04 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Bug 7858 - Missing packages from install_misc/ubuntu.packages |
| 01:04 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* kyle: Bug 7876 - Add ids to divs and spans with ids in opac-user.tt |
| 01:04 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7482: overdues report downloads without names |
| 01:04 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* tajoli: Bug 7143: Italian translation teams |
| 01:04 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* magnus: Bug 7445 - Clicking on a tag gives "Language ... does not exist" |
| 01:04 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* kyle: Bug 7758 - Koha allowing LOST items to check out without alert |
| 01:04 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* dpavlin: Bug 6701 - login timeout is in seconds |
| 01:04 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7746 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, RESOLVED FIXED, In staff 'No public lists.' is not translatable |
| 01:04 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* robin: Bug 7893 - add package dependencies |
| 01:04 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7935: Introduce sys pref to control 'browse results' in OPAC |
| 01:04 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7738 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, RESOLVED FIXED, "Display more constraints" in subfield configuraton is not properly translatable |
| 01:04 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* jcamins: Bug 7935 follow-up: Update DBRev |
| 01:04 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* paul.poulain: Updating euskara and french translation teams |
| 01:04 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* serhijdubyk: Bug 7838 - Add sort-string-utf.chr for Ukrainian and Russian |
| 01:04 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* kyle: Bug 7940 - Placing a hold on a single item from the staff cart causes errors |
| 01:04 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* colin.campbell: Bug 7831 : Sort budgets for selection in new order |
| 01:04 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* robin: Bug 8020 [3.8.x/MASTER] - update changelogs to get to 3.8 |
| 01:04 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* magnus: Bug 7924 - Fix handling of command line arguments in koha-remove |
| 01:04 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* jcamins: Update 3.6.x release notes template |
| 01:04 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5180 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Autocomplete broken on overdues report |
| 01:04 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5482 normal, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Master , Translation problem in guided reports - Item field names |
| 01:04 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6125 normal, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Master , Plugin for date acquired does not work on ACQ framework |
| 01:04 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5841 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Routing slip not displaying publication date |
| 01:04 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7590 normal, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Cataloging authorities search result page is broken |
| 01:04 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7760 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Add ids and classes to every staff page to help with customizaton |
| 01:04 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7780 normal, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , fix translator tool verbosity |
| 01:04 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7702 minor, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Test for C4::Heading::MARC21 should only run under MARC21 |
| 01:04 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7761 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gaetan.boisson, Pushed to Master , cleaning up empty declarations from staff-global.css |
| 01:04 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7727 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, RESOLVED FIXED, NORMARC XSLT OPAC detail view shows double tabs |
| 01:04 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7837 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , nb-NO z3950servers.sql misses column names |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7695 normal, P5 - low, ---, frederic, RESOLVED FIXED, Boolean operator AND in XSLT gets translated |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7485 critical, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Cannot edit barcode on Fast Add |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4819 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Add ID attribute to certain areas of OPAC so jquery can be used to hide them |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7436 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Set itemtypes.rentalcharge = 0 in sample data for nb-NO and de-DE |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7537 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, RESOLVED FIXED, Implement TraceCompleteSubfields, TraceSubjectSubdivisions and UseICU for NORMARC XSLT |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7617 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Authority search results should optionally be sorted by system order |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6434 normal, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Many changes for Ukrainian and Russian sql-tables |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1662 normal, P3, ---, katrin.fischer, RESOLVED FIXED, Is there a difference between Full and Simplified for Serials History |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7866 minor, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Master , Rank not used in Z39.50 search page |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7888 minor, P4, ---, wizzyrea, Pushed to Master , Permission for "change password" button in circ toolbar should be "borrowers" instead of "staffaccess" |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7858 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Missing packages from install_misc/ubuntu.packages |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7876 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Add ids to divs and spans with ids in opac-user.tt |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7482 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , overdues report downloads without names |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7143 enhancement, P3, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , Bug for tracking changes to the about page |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7445 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Clicking on a tag gives "Language ... does not exist" |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7758 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Koha allowing LOST items to check out without alert |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6701 normal, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , language on timeout system preference is wrong |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7893 critical, P1 - high, ---, mjr, Pushed to Master , Missing build-dependency on libdatetime-format-dateparse-perl and libreadonly-perl |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7935 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, RESOLVED FIXED, Introduce sys pref to control 'browse results' in OPAC |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7838 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Add sort-string-utf.chr for Ukrainian and Russian |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7940 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Placing a hold on a single item from the staff cart causes errors |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7831 minor, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , In neworderempty budget drop down budgets should appear in a rational order |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8020 normal, P4, ---, robin, Pushed to Stable , Prepare debian packages for 3.8 release |
| 01:05 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7924 major, P1 - high, ---, magnus, Signed Off , Fix handling of command line arguments in koha-remove |
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rangi |
heh |
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libsysguy |
man huginn must be really tired |
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chris_n |
huginn++ |
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jcamins |
Shari's home, so I think I'll go rest on my laurels having successfully updated 3.6.x. |
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libsysguy |
later jcamins |
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libsysguy |
rangi around? |
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rangi |
yup |
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libsysguy |
so I know we are trying to phase out C4::Dates right? |
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rangi |
yep thats the plan |
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libsysguy |
do you know the correct course of action for replacing the format_date() function |
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rangi |
must admit havent thought about it much |
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libsysguy |
ok |
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libsysguy |
i didn't know if there was already something in place or not |
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rangi |
afaik nothing yet |
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libsysguy |
ok cool |
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rangi |
probably Koha::Dates::format_date() and using hte datetime stuff |
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rangi |
but thats just a guess |
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libsysguy |
ok, I saw a DateUtils in there but it said in the doc that it was basically just there to hold things in place during the transition |
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rangi |
*nod* |
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libsysguy |
so Dates needs created |
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libsysguy |
challenge accepted :p |
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rangi |
:) |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: use the T::T filter for formatting dates. |
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rangi |
that currently uses format_date ... so when we have a replacement, it will need to use that |
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libsysguy |
ahh |
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libsysguy |
dang it now i feel the need to go back and fail that patch |
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rangi |
which patch? |
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wahanui |
which patch are we talking about? |
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libsysguy |
bug 8035 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8035 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Signed Off , bibs with comments show an error in opac |
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rangi |
oh yeah |
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rangi |
it shouldnt do that |
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* libsysguy |
apologizes |
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rangi |
you can fail it and point at |
| 02:18 |
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rangi |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]#Displaying_dates |
| 02:19 |
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rangi |
$_->{datereviewed} = format_date($_->{datereviewed}); that line should be fixed |
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libsysguy |
rangi++ |
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rangi |
and the date formatted in the teemplate |
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libsysguy |
I knew I had been seeing format_date less and less but I didn't know what the alternative was |
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rangi |
currently the plugin uses format_date .. but it means we only have to do it in one place |
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libsysguy |
makes sense |
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rangi |
jcamins_away: the 690 thing worked perfectly thanks |
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rangi |
libsysguy: http://grooveshark.com/#!/play[…]a+Hacking/8190140 |
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libsysguy |
is this for my upcoming project |
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rangi |
:) |
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libsysguy |
this also makes for good finals studying music fwiw |
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rangi |
oh are finals soon? |
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libsysguy |
this week, had my first one today |
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libsysguy |
one tomorrow and one friday |
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rangi |
ahh good luck |
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libsysguy |
thanks, I'll need it |
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libsysguy |
actually I shouldn't say that…im really not that worried heh |
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rangi |
:) |
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Amit_Gupta |
heya bag |
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ronald |
hi koha I tried restoring the sql file from koha 3.4 to koha 3.6 but I got this error ' ERROR 1005 (HY000) at line 3282: Can't create table 'koha_siche.letter' (errno: 150) ' . Anybody knows what it is? |
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magnuse |
kia ora #koha! |
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bag |
heya magnuse |
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wahanui |
it has been said that magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza. |
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magnuse |
hiya bag |
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bag |
hmm.. bag? |
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wahanui |
I LIKE BASEBALL |
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bag |
YAY |
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magnuse |
:-) |
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bag |
my favorite is still mtj? |
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bag |
mtj? |
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wahanui |
DeM KraZy NutZ!! |
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bag |
or |
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magnuse |
yay |
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bag |
rangi? |
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wahanui |
I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS! |
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magnuse |
hehe crazy people :-) |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
morning all |
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alex_a |
bonjour koha |
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cait |
hi alex_a |
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alex_a |
hi cait |
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magnuse |
bonjour cait and alex_a |
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magnuse |
cait: back to work today? |
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Oak |
Ahoy me hearties |
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magnuse |
Oak |
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Oak |
magnuse |
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cait |
magnuse: yes |
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julian_m |
salut |
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wahanui |
niihau, julian_m |
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cait |
brb |
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asaurat |
hi |
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wahanui |
niihau, asaurat |
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Amit_Gupta |
heya wahanui, asaurat |
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paul_p |
hello #koha |
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kf |
hi paul_p and hi #koha |
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matts |
hello #koha ! |
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kf |
hm only 340 mails after 3 days vacation.. |
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kf |
hi matts |
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Oak |
welcome back kf |
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kf |
thx Oak :) |
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Oak |
:) |
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reiveune |
hello |
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wahanui |
what's up, reiveune |
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druthb |
o/ |
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hdl |
druthb: up early.... |
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druthb |
it's after 11 AM here, hdl. :) I'm not in my usual timezone. |
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hdl |
druthb: really where are you ? |
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druthb |
Amman, Jordan. :D |
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mimi |
hi, am trying to create cards using card creator and in the batch creation this is the error am getting(WARNING: The database returned an error while saving batch 0. Please have your system administrator check the error log for details.) where can i access this log |
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samuel |
hello everybody! |
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samuel |
something strange for me this morning: when i want to add a book, i've the following error "Can't call method "subfield" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 2919." |
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slef |
samuel: most likely a corrupt record. Where did the details come from? |
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mimi |
am unable to create a patron cards using the patron card creator |
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mimi |
its suggesting i check the error on the logs. where can i view them? |
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samuel |
it's an import by z39.50 |
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mib_d83t3c |
i'm looking for an upgrade guide from 3.6 to 3.8 ? |
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kf |
mimi: the error logs are text files - it depends a bit on your setup where they are |
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kf |
you have to access them on your server and can't do it from within Koha |
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kf |
they are probably stored in /var/logs/... |
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mimi |
thanks, let me check |
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samuel |
yes, it's in /var/logs/koha/koha-error.log |
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samuel |
i'll check it |
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kf |
mib_d83t3c: check the release notes for guidance - what kind of installation did you do? (packages, dev, standard?) |
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druthb |
gonna be attaching my first patch on Bug 8061 momentarily. :D |
| 08:41 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8061 major, P5 - low, ---, ruth, NEW , Koha's templates do not cope well with right-to-left languages |
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samuel |
for me, it's a package, as we are in a period of test. When i look at the log , i see ": Table 'koha.systempreferences' doesn't exist ......" |
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mib_d83t3c |
Thanks, it's a dev installation. |
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samuel |
i logout, i come back in 5 minutes |
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kf |
samuel: have you run the web installer? |
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samuel |
kf: yes, without any problems |
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samuel |
when i look at the log, it's always the same error "'koha.language_descriptions' doesn't exist at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Languages.pm line 339." |
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samuel |
after "'koha.systempreferences' doesn't exist at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 542." |
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samuel |
'koha.language_descriptions' doesn't exist at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Languages.pm line 345 |
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kf |
sorry samuel |
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kf |
at work |
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kf |
not sure what's going wrong there |
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kf |
which version are you looking at? |
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samuel |
me too, don't worry |
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samuel |
3.07.00.049 |
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druthb |
hi, Oak. :) |
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Oak |
hello druthb :) electricity... here comes and goes |
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druthb |
:) |
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kf |
samuel: perhaps thelanguage chooser acting up again? :( |
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samuel |
kf: which language? |
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wahanui |
which language is "nb" ? |
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kf |
samuel: was wondering if it's something with the language chooser - installed languages vs. languages in the system preference and so on |
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kf |
because all your errors seem language related |
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fredericd |
samuel: In you MySQL DB, do you have language_* tables? |
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kf |
oh |
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kf |
perhaps you didn't check the language/bidi support when running through the web installer? |
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samuel |
fredericd: i've the following tables: language_descriptions | | language_rfc4646_to_iso639 | | language_script_bidi | | language_script_mapping | | language_subtag_registry |
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kf |
samuel: do they have content? |
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kf |
you shoudl always have the tables, as they are in kohastructure, but you might not have the correct sample data |
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samuel |
yes |
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fredericd |
even in language_descriptions? |
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samuel |
yes |
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fredericd |
samuel: strange. Don't you have 2 Koha DB, and your koha-conf.xml file pointing to the wrong DB? |
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samuel |
only one, i can send you my conf by email, if you want |
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Amit_Gupta |
heya fredericd |
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wahanui |
fredericd is, like, translation manager for 3.8 |
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kf |
someone around who can test something on current master for me? needs working email! |
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Amit_Gupta |
heya kf |
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chris_n |
@later tell sekjal arghhh |
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huginn |
chris_n: The operation succeeded. |
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* chris_n |
greets oleonard |
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jcamins |
kf: around? |
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oleonard |
Hi everyone |
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mib_yh2146 |
hello all , i am try to install liblime_koha-4.08.23 on fedora 14 |
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chris_n |
when translate says "Koha directories hierarchy for de-DE must be created first" what have I failed to do? |
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oleonard |
Sorry mib_yh2146 this channel is for talking about Koha, not Liblime Koha |
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oleonard |
mib_yh2146: I suggest you drop Liblime Koha and get real Koha http://www.koha-community.org/ |
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chris_n |
+1 |
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jcamins |
+1 |
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jcamins |
chris_n: in just a moment I'll run into the same problem you have, so we'll troubleshoot it together. :) |
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mib_yh2146 |
i am kinda newbee to it , what's diff b/w two ? |
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chris_n |
jcamins: are you testing bug 8062 also? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8062 critical, P5 - low, ---, frederic, NEW , Cart email broken for non english templates |
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oleonard |
Koha is the real open source project with 100s of contributors |
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oleonard |
Liblime Koha is a fork which is only supported by one company |
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mib_yh2146 |
ah, got it then should better have koha real one |
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mib_yh2146 |
Thanks oleonard |
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oleonard |
Any time mib_yh2146 |
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chris_n |
jcamins: there must be something missing... |
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chris_n |
Template process failed: file error - /home/cnighswonger/Repositories/koha.3.2.labels/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/de-DE/modules/installer/step1.tt |
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chris_n |
when running webinstaller |
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jcamins |
chris_n: no, bug 8061. |
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jcamins |
You did the translate install step? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8061 major, P5 - low, ---, ruth, Needs Signoff , Koha's templates do not cope well with right-to-left languages |
| 12:35 |
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kf |
jcamins: here, kinda |
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chris_n |
ahh |
| 12:35 |
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chris_n |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ha_on_your_server |
| 12:35 |
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jcamins |
kf: druthb knew how to download a new po file. :) |
| 12:36 |
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jcamins |
chris_n: uhhh... I'm 75% sure that's wrong. |
| 12:36 |
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kf |
chris_n: perhaps don't try de-DE:( po files are borked in master |
| 12:36 |
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jcamins |
chris_n: yeah, scroll up. |
| 12:36 |
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kf |
ah right |
| 12:36 |
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kf |
there is a zip file download link on the review tab |
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* kf |
has finished reading back now :) |
| 12:37 |
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kf |
any other questions? and thx everyone who is trying to confirm my bug against master! |
| 12:37 |
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jcamins |
chris_n: you're looking at the instructions for 3.0.6. |
| 12:37 |
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jcamins |
chris_n: for 3.2, it's just perl translate install ar-Arab |
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chris_n |
sadly that does not work |
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* chris_n |
is running master |
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kf |
chris_n: did you executei t in the misc/translator directory |
| 12:37 |
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kf |
? |
| 12:37 |
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chris_n |
yes |
| 12:37 |
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kf |
hmm |
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kf |
is only german not working? |
| 12:37 |
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chris_n |
./translate install de-DE |
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druthb |
the 3.8/master Arabic file is *thoroughly* broken. Don't know about other langs. |
| 12:38 |
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jcamins |
chris_n: that's bad. |
| 12:38 |
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kf |
say perl translate install nb-NO |
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jcamins |
I'm on 3.6-testing. I'll let you know how it goes. |
| 12:38 |
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kf |
jcamins: thx! |
| 12:38 |
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kf |
evil bug :( |
| 12:38 |
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kf |
fr-FR should probably work too |
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jcamins |
kf: I'm testing 8061. |
| 12:39 |
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jcamins |
Translation works fine on 3.6-testing. |
| 12:40 |
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chris_n |
ouch |
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chris_n |
its really broke now |
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gmcharlt |
good morning |
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chris_n |
fixed |
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* kf |
is worried now |
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chris_n |
it appears that attempting to install de-DE will cause early-morning distress :) |
| 12:42 |
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kf |
fatal errors in po files... |
| 12:42 |
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chris_n |
nb-NO appears to work fine at this point |
| 12:42 |
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kf |
I missed fredericd's deadline by a few hours :( |
| 12:42 |
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kf |
it annoys me endlessly |
| 12:42 |
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kf |
but my own fault |
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kf |
the file from pootle shoudl work fine, but in master it's broken until the next big release *sigh* |
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* kyleh |
wonders why [% USE KohaDates %] isn't just placed in a universal include file, rather than each template individually. |
| 12:43 |
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jcamins |
kf: you know what we need? |
| 12:43 |
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kf |
hm? |
| 12:43 |
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jcamins |
A script for fetching updated po files from pootle. |
| 12:43 |
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chris_n |
hi gmcharlt |
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kf |
oh |
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kf |
I wrote a batch script for that |
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jcamins |
I would accept a script like that into 3.6.x. |
| 12:44 |
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kf |
only no idea on which vm it lives currently.. |
| 12:44 |
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jcamins |
Did you file a bug and submit it? |
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kf |
honestly it was the first bash script I ever wrote |
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kf |
with hardcoded paths and all |
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jcamins |
kf++ # for sharing this script |
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kf |
not really submittable :) |
| 12:45 |
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kf |
and I have no idea where it is currently... which is also annoying |
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kf |
but it shoudl not be too hard to write another script? |
| 12:45 |
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kf |
jcamins: another problem is, that the po files outdate |
| 12:45 |
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kf |
the po files on pootle get updated constantly |
| 12:46 |
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kf |
so say you are running a 3.6.3 - you can't use the file for 3.6. |
| 12:46 |
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kf |
4 |
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kf |
it will work most of the time, but it can happen that you end up with untranslated things |
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jcamins |
kf: the reason I would accept it for 3.6.x is that there are some languages which are only just starting to get translated. |
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kf |
yeah, I only say you have to be cautious |
| 12:48 |
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kf |
because it will overwrite the 'released' po files |
| 12:48 |
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kf |
and you might not want that |
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jcamins |
If someone wants to use one of those languages, before the po file gets included in a release, they *have* to download it. |
| 12:50 |
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jcamins |
Might as well make it easier, right? |
| 12:50 |
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jcamins |
True. |
| 12:50 |
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kf |
yeah |
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kf |
as I said |
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kf |
what I did needs to be rewritten- and I lost the script I had ... so perhaps we should file a bug |
| 12:53 |
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kf |
jcamins: and if you could test the cart it woudl be great :) or someone else on master |
| 12:54 |
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jcamins |
kf: chris_n is working on that. :) |
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kf |
chris_n has an email problem - so I am searching for another volunteer :) |
| 12:54 |
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chris_n |
sorry :-( |
| 12:54 |
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jcamins |
Oh. |
| 12:54 |
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* chris_n |
's sandbox is generally in a state of disarray atm |
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kf |
chris_n++ for trying and learning about translations :) |
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chris_n |
:) |
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jcamins |
I will see if e-mail works for me. |
| 12:55 |
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* chris_n |
thinks the webinstaller interface is a nightmare on the backside |
| 12:59 |
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jcamins |
chris_n: agreed. |
| 13:03 |
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oleonard |
I was testing the cart and discovered that I don't have email sending working in my relatively new VM |
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oleonard |
Is there an Idiot's Guide to getting Ubuntu set up to send emails? |
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druthb |
I'm headin' out for a hike back to the hotel, then dinner. See y'all soonly. |
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kf |
oleonard: I don't know one :( |
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oleonard |
Oh, I guess the short answer is "install postfix" |
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chris_n |
email? |
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chris_n |
email is postfix |
| 13:15 |
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chris_n |
email? |
| 13:15 |
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wahanui |
email is postfix |
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chris_n |
forget email |
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wahanui |
chris_n: I forgot email |
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* chris_n |
runs out of ideas |
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Guest1047 |
exim? |
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oleonard |
So anyway, I was able to send a cart from the French templates |
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kf |
and the mail looks right? |
| 13:16 |
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oleonard |
Yes, although it's not in French :| |
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kf |
oh weird! |
| 13:17 |
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oleonard |
Oh, because the template isn't translated :P |
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kf |
oleonard: well, that's an explanation |
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kf |
I think something in the trnaslations process is breaking it... not the po files, but something else |
| 13:19 |
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oleonard |
It's an unfortunate omission |
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kf |
oleonard: it used to be translatable |
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kf |
is the french po file complete? is it the same for norwegian? |
| 13:21 |
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kf |
hm. |
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oleonard |
nn-NO? |
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* oleonard |
realizes his fr-FR templates might be out of date |
| 13:23 |
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kf |
nb-NO :) |
| 13:23 |
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kf |
it would be great if you could check |
| 13:23 |
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oleonard |
I figured it had an N in it anyway ;) |
| 13:23 |
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kf |
there are too - it's not easy! :) |
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kf |
jcamins++ oleonard++ :) |
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kf |
thx a lot! |
| 13:25 |
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oleonard |
No problem. I'm avoiding my Accounting homework. |
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jcamins |
Hehe. |
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kf |
oleonard: you have those too? :) |
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|
* kf |
is at work, so can't do accounting now |
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* libsysguy |
is at work and is still doing homework |
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* chris_n |
wonders why the webinstaller templates have the privilege of ignoring shift-F5 |
| 13:27 |
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chris_n |
ctl-f5 rather |
| 13:38 |
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jcamins |
$ git qa 7977 |
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jcamins |
:D |
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* chris_n |
threatens webinstaller with a re-write |
| 13:38 |
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kf |
bug 7977 |
| 13:38 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7977 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Needs Signoff , Add a "Quote-of-the-day" feature to the OPAC homepage |
| 13:38 |
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jcamins |
Woohoo! |
| 13:38 |
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jcamins |
chris_n++ |
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kf |
chris_n: wizzyrea has a wiki page with ideas :) |
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chris_n |
some sort of weird caching foo going on here which makes it hard to debug |
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jcamins |
chris_n: 7977 looks good to me. |
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jcamins |
Is there anything additional I should be checking? |
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chris_n |
jcamins: not that I can think of |
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chris_n |
basic functionality |
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chris_n |
coherent instructions/help |
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chris_n |
I've addressed most all of owen's points |
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chris_n |
so I think that's it :) |
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jcamins |
All looks good to me. |
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oleonard |
I don't know chris_n, I didn't fly to work today on a unicorn :P |
| 13:49 |
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chris_n |
lol |
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asaurat |
I did! |
| 13:49 |
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asaurat |
but then I woke up |
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kf |
lol |
| 13:50 |
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asaurat |
and eventually flew on a flying poney like everyday -_- |
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chris_n |
oleonard: all unicorns revert to mice after midnight |
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jcamins |
chris_n: running the unit tests now. |
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chris_n |
jcamins: make sure you run them on a very fresh install... as in one you have not accessed opac in yet |
| 13:54 |
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chris_n |
once the timestamp fields are updated in the sample data, the test will fail on that field |
| 13:54 |
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kf |
oh |
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jcamins |
chris_n: oh, oops. |
| 13:54 |
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chris_n |
there's just no way around it |
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jcamins |
chris_n: tjat |
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jcamins |
*that's not so good. |
| 13:55 |
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kf |
asaurat: can you help me with soomething? I am looking for someone to test bug 8062 on master |
| 13:55 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8062 critical, P5 - low, ---, frederic, NEW , Cart email broken for non english templates |
| 13:55 |
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* chris_n |
also figured that unit tests are designed to be run in conjunction w/the installer |
| 13:55 |
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jcamins |
I run the unit tests every time I test anything. |
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chris_n |
all db_dependent tests will fail once the sample data is changed |
| 13:55 |
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asaurat |
kf: ok |
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jcamins |
chris_n: oh, you meant sample data in general. |
| 13:56 |
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kf |
asaurat: it needs a working translation and mail working :) |
| 13:56 |
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chris_n |
jcamins: db_dependent tests are only designed to pass on pure sample data |
| 13:56 |
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jcamins |
Yes, I have an installation which is just the sample data. |
| 13:56 |
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oleonard |
Melding sendt! |
| 13:56 |
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asaurat |
kf: ah, but there is no patch, what do you need ? |
| 13:57 |
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kf |
checking it's broken in master too |
| 13:57 |
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asaurat |
ok |
| 13:57 |
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oleonard |
kf: Confirmed in master |
| 13:57 |
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kf |
I could only confirm up to 3.6.4 |
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kf |
oleonard: oh! thx! |
| 13:57 |
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* chris_n |
goes back to hammering webinstaller |
| 13:57 |
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kf |
did I miss your message? |
| 13:57 |
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jcamins |
chris_n: I don't like that viewing the OPAC causes the tests to break. |
| 13:57 |
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kf |
oleonard++ |
| 13:57 |
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oleonard |
No, I just now remembered my translation process finished |
| 13:57 |
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oleonard |
No subject, no message body |
| 13:58 |
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kf |
eew |
| 13:58 |
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kf |
but yes, that's what I expected |
| 13:58 |
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chris_n |
jcamins: sorry, but that's the nature of the beast... anything other than pure sample data will break db_dependent tests |
| 13:58 |
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chris_n |
which is why they are optional :-) |
| 13:58 |
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kf |
oleonard: you tested on master? then I will update the bug accordingly - which language? :) |
| 13:58 |
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kf |
or will you? |
| 13:58 |
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jcamins |
chris_n: but all the tests other than this one work when I'm signing off. |
| 13:58 |
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jcamins |
Eh. |
| 13:58 |
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jcamins |
I'll sign off anyway. |
| 13:58 |
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oleonard |
I can update it. Which number? |
| 13:59 |
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jcamins |
I'll add a SKIP to this test for sign off. |
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chris_n |
sadly there is no other way to check the choose by date aspect |
| 13:59 |
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chris_n |
afaict |
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kf |
8062 |
| 13:59 |
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kf |
and thx again :) oleonard++ |
| 13:59 |
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jcamins |
chris_n: what about testing tomorrow? |
| 13:59 |
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chris_n |
but I'm very open to other options |
| 13:59 |
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chris_n |
lol |
| 13:59 |
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kf |
asaurat: bug is confirmed :) but thank you! asaurat++ |
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chris_n |
jcamins: the real problem there is that tomorrow never gets here :-) |
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asaurat |
kf: ok you're welcome =) |
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jcamins |
chris_n: oh, no way to specify the date. |
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oleonard |
kf: I just noticed I got 100s of lines of errors when I ran the translation script |
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chris_n |
the problem stems from the sample data having a timestamp of 0 |
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jcamins |
chris_n: couldn't you set any quotes with a timestamp of today to a timestamp of 0 for the tests? |
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oleonard |
"Use of uninitialized value $key in hash element at /usr/share/perl5/Locale/PO.pm line 472, <IN> line 89328." |
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chris_n |
probably, but isn't munging the sample data to ensure the test passes akin to cheating the test? |
| 14:03 |
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chris_n |
however, we can do that if that is what folks feel needs to be done |
| 14:03 |
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kf |
oleonard: yes, there seems to be a problem - magnuse reported that too :( I had not much time to test recently |
| 14:03 |
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* chris_n |
likes *always* passing tests |
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jcamins |
I will try this idea. Hold on. |
| 14:05 |
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jcamins |
chris_n: not really. We do that with a lot of the other tests already. |
| 14:05 |
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jcamins |
This is slightly more destructive, but if you're running unit tests on an active installation, you clearly don't mind. |
| 14:05 |
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jcamins |
Or we could even stash the date. |
| 14:05 |
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jcamins |
That's a better idea. |
| 14:05 |
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* chris_n |
cheers jcamins on |
| 14:08 |
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jcamins |
Oh, but there could be multiple quotes with a timestamp of today. |
| 14:08 |
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jcamins |
Okay, destructive is the way to go. |
| 14:09 |
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jcamins |
How do you destroy mysql statement handles? |
| 14:10 |
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* oleonard |
offers jcamins a torch |
| 14:10 |
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jcamins |
Oh, it's not necessary. |
| 14:11 |
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jcamins |
chris_n: why do we need Test::Deep? |
| 14:12 |
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chris_n |
in order to allow regexps in testing deep data structures |
| 14:13 |
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chris_n |
if you don't have it those tests will be skipped |
| 14:13 |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
| 14:13 |
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* chris_n |
wrestles webinstaller into submission |
| 14:14 |
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chris_n |
in this case it averts other date-related failures |
| 14:14 |
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chris_n |
but can be very useful in other cases as well |
| 14:14 |
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jcamins |
subtest doesn't work. |
| 14:16 |
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chris_n |
? |
| 14:17 |
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pastebot |
"jcamins" at 24.193.130.86 pasted "chris_n: error from unit test" (21 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/390 |
| 14:17 |
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jcamins |
Something to do with DBI, I think. |
| 14:19 |
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jcamins |
Nope. |
| 14:19 |
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chris_n |
it runs fine here... I'll do a fresh install and check again |
| 14:21 |
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chris_n |
my new "check all" button on the framework/sample data page makes installing test data a breeze |
| 14:22 |
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jcamins |
I have an old version of Test::More, probably. |
| 14:23 |
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jcamins |
I will try installing a new version. |
| 14:23 |
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jcamins |
Yup. That fixed it. |
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* chris_n |
does find an anomaly |
| 14:24 |
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pastebot |
"chris_n" at 63.162.197.228 pasted "Test weirdness" (47 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/391 |
| 14:24 |
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chris_n |
I'll need to check on that one |
| 14:24 |
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chris_n |
first pass fails a test while an immediate second pass passes |
| 14:26 |
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jcamins |
I have the same thing happening, now that I've updated Test::Simple. |
| 14:31 |
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chris_n |
fixing now |
| 14:32 |
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jcamins |
You can either attach a follow-up, which I'll squash into the test patch, or replace the test patch. |
| 14:35 |
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chris_n |
jcamins: I've attached the fix to 7977 |
| 14:36 |
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chris_n |
you can squash... otherwise I'll have to reorder the bug attachments... :P |
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chris_n |
the problem stemmed from the way I was ref'ing the sub |
| 14:36 |
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jcamins |
I'll be reordering them anyway. |
| 14:37 |
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chris_n |
cool |
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jcamins |
Well, reposting. |
| 14:38 |
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jcamins |
Okay, that fixed it. |
| 14:43 |
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chris_n |
jcamins: stand by for a further fixup for Koha.t |
| 14:44 |
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jcamins |
chris_n: standing by. |
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* oleonard |
grumbles about not being able to specify a remote image for a collection code |
| 14:45 |
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chris_n |
ok, squash that one into Koha.t as well |
| 14:45 |
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* chris_n |
just learned something about importing functions which he did not know before |
| 14:45 |
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chris_n |
that will ensure that future tests of C4::Koha work as well |
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jcamins |
Squashed. |
| 14:47 |
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chris_n |
I did not know that 'use foo qw()' imports *only* the subs mentioned in qw() omitting @EXPORT |
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* jcamins |
did not know that either. |
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chris_n |
by adding ':DEFAULT' to qw() you get @EXPORT and whatever else you choose there |
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chris_n |
for module tests it probably makes sense to import the entire shebang |
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jcamins |
Bug 7977 is signed off. |
| 14:49 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7977 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Signed Off , Add a "Quote-of-the-day" feature to the OPAC homepage |
| 14:50 |
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jcamins |
unimarc? |
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wahanui |
unimarc is http://www.ifla.org/en/publica[…]ted-documentation |
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chris_n |
jcamins++ |
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kf |
ah no paul |
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kf |
ccode at biblio level? I don't think this should work |
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jcamins |
ccode isn't stored at biblio level. |
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jcamins |
itype can be at biblio-level, not ccode. |
| 14:55 |
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jcamins |
What does opac-topissues do? |
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oleonard |
Most checked out items |
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jcamins |
Oh my. |
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* jcamins |
gouges his eyes out. |
| 14:57 |
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jcamins |
Let this be a warning to you all! |
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jcamins |
Don't look at the source of opac-topissues.pl! |
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kf |
jcamins: yes, that's what I am saying - it should not work. It's probably configured that way someohow... but the code does not know |
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kf |
jcamins: are you blind now? want a cookie? |
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* jcamins |
slams his head on the desk repeatedly, trying to dislodge the horrifying SQL from his cranium. |
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jcamins |
Yes please! |
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* kf |
hands ysou a cookie and puts a pillow on the desk |
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jcamins |
paul_p: ccode isn't stored at biblio level. It's itemtype that can be biblio- or item-level. |
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paul_p |
jcamins = yes, ccode CAN be stored in biblioitems.itemtype. Just connect your ccode authorised_values to the field that uses biblioitems.itemtypes, and it works like a charm ! (except for opac-topissues) |
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kf |
paul_p: but why would one want to do that? |
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paul_p |
this ccode thing is really a pain... (error in implementation) |
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kf |
doesn't it break circulation in other places? |
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paul_p |
kf = not at all. |
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kf |
and why not use itemtypes if you want ccode to act like itemtype? |
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paul_p |
and many libraries supported by us are doing that. |
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jcamins |
paul_p: how do you have itemlevel itypes set? |
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kf |
paul_p: I understand they are doing it, I only don't understand why |
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kf |
paul_p: the reasoning for exchanging ccode and itemtypes |
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paul_p |
kf = because we have many libraries that have a different issuingrule for a given biblio (1 that can't be issued, and 3 that can't), but that's a book, so they don't want to record it 3 times -at item level- |
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paul_p |
(1 that can't be issued, 3 that can) |
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paul_p |
to = biblioitems.itemtype = 'book' and items.itype ='NOCHECKOUT' or 'NORMAL' |
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paul_p |
and ccode is empty |
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kf |
paul_p: I still think this sounds like a bad idea |
| 15:02 |
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paul_p |
well items.ccode field is empty |
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paul_p |
kf = how could you setup Koha then ? |
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kf |
I think I would use a different field, but it will not hlep your problem here |
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oleonard |
paul_p: Why not items.itype ='NOCHECKOUT' or 'NORMAL' and items.ccode = 'book' ? |
| 15:03 |
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kf |
I think the biblio itemtype is not something I have seen in other ils so far, so noone ever requested it |
| 15:03 |
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kf |
we do it all on item level |
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kf |
which is also necessary because of the union catalog situation |
| 15:04 |
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wahanui |
okay, kf. |
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paul_p |
oleonard = because if the library has 5 items of this document, then they all are books and it's useless to store 5 times items.ccode='book' |
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kf |
items are local, bibliographic records are central (from the union catalog, same for all) |
| 15:04 |
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kf |
forget which |
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wahanui |
kf: I forgot which |
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paul_p |
(at least in UNIMARC, if one is a book and one a large-print book, then it's supposed to be a different biblio) |
| 15:05 |
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kf |
paul_p: that's the same here - but I think people are using ccodes different |
| 15:05 |
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kf |
or can use them different |
| 15:05 |
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kf |
not only to reflect the type of item... so they might be different for each item |
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oleonard |
paul_p: What is objectionable about that redundancy? Data entry? the appearance in the OPAC? |
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paul_p |
kf = so for you bibliotems.itemtypes is always empty ? |
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kf |
paul_p: I set it to the mostly used itemtype by default |
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paul_p |
oleonard I think both. |
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kf |
becaus this way it will appear as default on the item form |
| 15:06 |
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kf |
and there used to be bugs if it was empty (with holds) but I think they are fixed now |
| 15:07 |
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oleonard |
For us item type and ccode are *usually* redundant and no one has complained : http://search.myacpl.org/cgi-b[…]iblionumber=48473 |
| 15:08 |
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paul_p |
oleonard = some UNIMARC addicts have (but, as you know, frenchies are always complaining ;-) ) |
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slef |
paul_p: can I have a word? |
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paul_p |
s/UNIMARC addicts/UNIMARC addict french libraries customers of BibLibre/ |
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kf |
paul_p: I can see some reasons to do it... but I think the code is not made for it |
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paul_p |
slef of course |
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paul_p |
kf = well, I've a long lasting feeling that there's a mess with all this code... |
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kf |
paul_p: define all this? :) |
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reiveune1 |
bye |
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jcamins |
paul_p: opac-topissues is certainly horrifying. |
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paul_p |
I think the itemtype should always have been for ... the item type, and something else should have been introduced for issuing rules that differ from itemtypes. Now we have itemtypes for item type or issuing rules, and the item type is sometimes in authorised values. Having icons added into authorised_values is a symptom that there is something wrong. With the QA we have now, it would not make his way into Koha (at least with me as RM !) |
| 15:16 |
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kf |
paul_p: hmm |
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slef |
what are the best slots at a conference? Opening each half-day? |
| 15:16 |
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kf |
paul_p: I don't think I fully agree - I think the naming is perhaps wrong, but ideally the itemtype should come from the marc21/unimarc record |
| 15:16 |
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slef |
I am going mad with this schedule |
| 15:16 |
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paul_p |
but that's another topic, and probably almost impossible to change now. |
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kf |
paul_p: I see itemtypes not as ITEMtypes... I always tell the libraries to treat them as loan types |
| 15:17 |
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kf |
and put everything else they want for search into collections and locations |
| 15:18 |
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kf |
and they like the small icons that are generated using the marc21 fields (with the exception that there is one buggy combination I have to track down sometime) |
| 15:18 |
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paul_p |
kf = so in fact, you agree with me ;-) (in Koha 1.x and 2.x the "document type" was in biblioitems.itemtypes. It has been introduced at item level to have different issuing rules) |
| 15:18 |
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paul_p |
(biblioitems => biblio level) |
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paul_p |
in Koha 2.x = biblioitems.itemtypes = material type AND issuing rule applied. |
| 15:19 |
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kf |
ok, I might agree that the naming is unfortunate and perhaps we needed something else - but it's done now :) and I always thought it was intended that you could have circulation rules on biblio level (although it does not make sense for academic libraries here) |
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oleonard |
Is there no UNIMARC material type designation? That sounds like what you're talking about paul_p |
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paul_p |
oleonard = the material type designation can be in 200$b, but that's used in BNF records, and sometimes/often, libraries want a different value, like "printed material" for BNF being "book", "children book", "fiction book" for the library. So we usually put it in a X9X field |
| 15:23 |
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oleonard |
What would you use a new biblio-level document type for? |
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paul_p |
oleonard = itemtypes or ccode, depending on your setyp. And it really works well already. Except for opac-topissues. |
| 15:25 |
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oleonard |
Well if opac-topissues is all this is about then re-write it since it's such a mess |
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* paul_p |
feel a bugfix will be needed, something like "if syspref is ccode, then check if ccode is attached to items.ccode or biblioitems.itemtype" |
| 15:25 |
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paul_p |
(and do the JOIN accordingly) |
| 15:25 |
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oleonard |
But if in general itemtypes+ccodes are not enough to solve everyone's problems then what do we need to add? |
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kf |
paul_p: and that is why I say it "feels wrong" |
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kf |
paul_p: because the proposed fix will bend the rules |
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paul_p |
kf = bend the rules ? |
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kf |
hm |
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kf |
not sure how to explain what I mean, trying to find words |
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kf |
I think it's changing something in a way that it was never designed to do, and in a way that will not be obvious or logical |
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kf |
and it's going to explode in another place next time |
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kf |
with a new feature added |
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kf |
and it's even mroe complicated |
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kf |
because advancedsearchtype is no longer a single value |
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kf |
uhoh |
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kf |
you can have itemtypes, locations and collections searchable at the same time now |
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kf |
so how is it going to choose? |
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paul_p |
kf = I don't want to add a new feature ! just fix opac-topissues to handle properly this configuration. |
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paul_p |
mmm... you're right, we will probably have a problem here (and everybody will, because the code says : $if (advanced_search_types eq 'ccode') |
| 15:30 |
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kf |
yeah |
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paul_p |
so, it's broken for everyone ! |
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kf |
well everyone using more than one search otpion and having top issues activated :) |
| 15:30 |
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paul_p |
yep |
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slef |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_Schedule#Timings first draft posted |
| 15:31 |
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kf |
I also think the combination of item-level_itypes activated + forcing it to use a biblio level value is probably going to be bad |
| 15:32 |
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jcamins |
slef: thanks for scheduling my talk at the end of the day. |
| 15:32 |
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jcamins |
I forgot to ask you to do that. |
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slef |
jcamins: which one was yours? :) |
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slef |
I think I started off with it there (guessing at timezone) but probably moved it 3 times since. |
| 15:32 |
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jcamins |
"But my patrons need more information!" |
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| 15:33 |
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slef |
oh right... no I didn't move that one around too much |
| 15:34 |
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slef |
jcamins: remind me, are you presenting over videolink? |
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kf |
paul_p: I think doing it right would require lots more work - I mean making it flexible enough to have this mix of item leel and biblio level work in all cases - but as it's broken now anyway, we will need it fixed oen way or the other |
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kf |
paul_p: thinking if you can fix it that it works with oyur setup and other configurations it will always be an improvement over what it's doing now :) |
| 15:34 |
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paul_p |
kf well, just fixing opac-topissues for this particular case is easy. Rewrite everything is ... well ... too big... |
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jcamins |
slef: I'll use Skype or some other video conferencing program if all works, but I'm also going to write the paper in advance and send it to someone who will be at KohaCon, so that we have a backup plan for when technology undoubtedly fails us. |
| 15:35 |
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kf |
paul_p: I agree, but I am not sure cheating the configuration this way will not cause you more headache in the future |
| 15:35 |
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kf |
paul_p: not talking about topissues, but perhaps other places |
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kf |
it's only it feels wrong to me still perhaps :) |
| 15:36 |
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slef |
jcamins: can you put "(remote presentation)" or similar on the abstract on the wiki please? |
| 15:36 |
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paul_p |
kf = as I said, many libraries are using this configuration safely here. But I agree we will have to double check any update in this area ! |
| 15:36 |
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kf |
probably key is to not assume a mapping, but have the code check for it each time |
| 15:42 |
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jcamins |
You know, a better solution for topissues would probably be to use the reports webservice. |
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slef |
----------------------Attendance Details------------------ |
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slef |
Conference (5-7 June 2012): - |
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slef |
Hackfest (9-11 June 2012): - |
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slef |
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slef |
guessing that's not a valid registration then... |
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jcamins |
slef: probably not. |
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chris_n |
can someone remind me why we permit the unchecking of "mandatory" data in webinstaller? |
| 15:55 |
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jcamins |
chris_n: I have no idea, but I have wondered about that in the past. |
| 15:55 |
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chris_n |
it seems sort of counter productive to the entire hope of a working installation |
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jcamins |
Agreed. |
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kf |
chris_n: perhaps because it's not knowig that it's mandatory |
| 15:58 |
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kf |
for example it pulls the label from the folder name |
| 15:58 |
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kf |
that's why some languages have different names for the directories |
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chris_n |
kf: right |
| 15:59 |
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kf |
and I think it's listing them alphabetically? and whatever you put there will work (.txt + .sql file) |
| 15:59 |
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chris_n |
so the question is: should mandatory things not have the option of being unchecked? |
| 15:59 |
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kf |
so not easy to fix |
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kf |
yes, but where do you tell it what is mandatory? |
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chris_n |
it sorts them correctly afaict |
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chris_n |
ie. things under the "mandatory" header are indeed mandatory... at least in en |
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kf |
yeah, I meant when you name the folder not mandatory, but something else |
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kf |
mandatory is before optional in the alphabet :) |
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chris_n |
no, I think there is code on the backend to discern because the mandatory foo comes up checked by default |
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chris_n |
so somewhere it has to know |
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kf |
ah |
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kf |
hm yes |
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kf |
perhaps has the names of the sql files? |
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kf |
somewhere? |
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kf |
good point :) |
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kf |
ok, now I go! |
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kf |
bye all :) |
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chris_n |
bye |
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chris_n |
well, I have added a "check-all" option which preserves whatever comes up checked by default when unchecked |
| 16:02 |
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chris_n |
hmm... does that make sense? |
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jcamins |
I think so, yes. |
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francharb |
hi |
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evyugi |
hi, I just started installing koha on ubuntu 11.10 and am very new to all this, are there anyone that can offer me some assistance? |
| 16:33 |
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jcamins |
evyugi: if you have a specific question, you should just go ahead and ask. Anyone who can help will do so. |
| 16:35 |
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jcamins |
paul_p: when will you be doing your next round of pushing to master? I'm very much looking forward to bugs 7248 and 7249 being pushed. |
| 16:35 |
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oleonard |
And 5184! |
| 16:36 |
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slef |
bug 5184? |
| 16:36 |
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wahanui |
bug 5184 is the priority |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5184 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Upgrade jQuery to the latest version |
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slef |
jcamins: meta-question? |
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wahanui |
just ask, don't ask if you can ask and if the right people are not here, they won't answer or you can use huginn's @later to leave a message |
| 16:37 |
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jcamins |
Oh yeah, that's a great one too. |
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jcamins |
slef: yes? |
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slef |
jcamins: see wahanui ;) |
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jcamins |
Ooh, that's a good one. |
| 16:38 |
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slef |
could do with some rewriting, but you get the idea |
| 16:38 |
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evyugi |
i'm using the wiki guide, and at the last step to configure koha via admin page, and getting this software errors:Software error: |
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evyugi |
Access denied for user 'kohaadmin'@'localhost' (using password: YES) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 730. |
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evyugi |
Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Auth.pm line 33. |
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evyugi |
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Auth.pm line 33. |
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evyugi |
Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/mainpage.pl line 25. |
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evyugi |
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/mainpage.pl line 25. |
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evyugi |
please pm me if u can help |
| 16:39 |
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slef |
please don't ask for pm... the answers should be shared |
| 16:39 |
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evyugi |
ok, if that convinent too |
| 16:39 |
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slef |
evyugi: have you created a kohaadmin user in your mysql? |
| 16:39 |
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evyugi |
yes i have |
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jcamins |
evyugi: which wiki guide? |
| 16:39 |
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slef |
have you checked that it can connect with mysql? |
| 16:40 |
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slef |
oh no |
| 16:40 |
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slef |
use INSTALL.ubuntu not the wiki |
| 16:40 |
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evyugi |
wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/koha_on_ubuntu |
| 16:40 |
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slef |
the INSTALL file will match the version you downloaded |
| 16:40 |
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slef |
the wiki might not |
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evyugi |
oh, that in the tar right? |
| 16:40 |
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jcamins |
evyugi: if you are using Ubuntu 11.10, you should use the packages. |
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slef |
yep, just in the top folder |
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jcamins |
packages? |
| 16:40 |
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wahanui |
it has been said that packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 16:41 |
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slef |
oh yeah, packages are good too |
| 16:41 |
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mib_1z43xy |
I saw the same message yesterday on my first-time install, i found that i had the wrong database name, koha instead of what I made it kohadb |
| 16:43 |
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evyugi |
@slef should i uninstall everything and restart? i'm still new to all this |
| 16:43 |
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huginn |
evyugi: I suck |
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slef |
wow, INSTALL.ubuntu is for 9.04 |
| 16:43 |
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slef |
evyugi: I think fixing is better than wiping, but it's up to you. |
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evyugi |
is there one for 11.10? |
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oleonard |
INSTALL.ubuntu.lucid is for 10.04 LTS |
| 16:44 |
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jcamins |
However, the packages are much easier. |
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slef |
oleonard: is that the latest LTS? |
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jcamins |
evyugi: if you are already running into problems with installation, you are almost certainly better off using the packages. |
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slef |
evyugi: see jcamins |
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oleonard |
slef: I think the latest release is the newest LTS |
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jcamins |
Bah. |
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jcamins |
I just screwed up the git repo. |
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slef |
jcamins: I didn't know you had write access to it! |
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evyugi |
k, ill try that |
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jcamins |
Sorry folks. |
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jcamins |
slef: I'm RMaint. |
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slef |
jcamins: oic. I can never remember so I go |
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slef |
RMaint? |
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wahanui |
RMaint are rangi and jcamins |
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jcamins |
gmcharlt: any chance you could delete the 3.6.x-rmaint/testing branch? |
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jcamins |
My script had a typo. |
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slef |
back in 75mins for kohacon12 meeting |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #46 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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jcamins |
I think maybe I need to use WWW::Mechanize to automate marking things as pushed to stable. |
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oleonard |
Under what conditions does a user's CGISESSID change? Is it tied to the session controlled by the "timeout" system pref? |
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jcamins |
magnus_afk: should bug 7537 have been pushed to 3.6.x? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7537 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, RESOLVED FIXED, Implement TraceCompleteSubfields, TraceSubjectSubdivisions and UseICU for NORMARC XSLT |
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jcamins |
@later tell magnuse Should bug 7537 have been pushed to 3.6.x? I can revert it if you want me to, but I need to know soon. |
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huginn |
jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
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mib_1z43xy |
I keep getting a error when doing "apt-get update" GPG error the following signatures wew invalid ... |
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mib_1z43xy |
were invalid |
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mib_1z43xy |
this is from http://ftp.indexdata.dk/bedian/indexdata.asc file |
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mib_1z43xy |
i've downloaded it several times with the same result |
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mib_1z43xy |
i've apt-key del Indexdata then added it again with the same result when updated |
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mib_1z43xy |
any ideas what i need to do? |
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jcamins |
mib_1z43xy: if you're on a recent version of Ubuntu, you don't need to install the GPG signatures. |
| 17:13 |
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jcamins |
It's also safe to ignore that error, which is what I do. |
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gmcharlt |
jcamins: done |
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jcamins |
gmcharlt: thanks! |
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mib_1z43xy |
thanks but i did try to ignore it and the result i have now is that i .... i don't think indexing is working |
| 17:15 |
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jcamins |
searching faq? |
| 17:15 |
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wahanui |
searching faq is, like, at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/ |
| 17:15 |
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jcamins |
^^ you'll want to read that document. It is *very* unlikely that the problem you are encountering is a result of the package installation, unless the problem is that Zebra hasn't been installed at all. |
| 17:15 |
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mib_1z43xy |
i installed all sample data durinf install and then added 5 additional marc21 records and still can't get any results from the opac search page |
| 17:16 |
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mib_1z43xy |
its install, ldzebra |
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mib_1z43xy |
i'll check out the faq |
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mib_1z43xy |
btw, i followed INSTALL.Debian guide |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.6.x build #46: SUCCESS in 43 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.6.x/46/ |
| 17:33 |
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jenkins_koha |
robin: Bug 7824 - [3.6.x] show the first name correctly in the OPAC user update screen |
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mib_1z43xy |
the FAQ helped me solve it, thanks very much! |
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nengard |
is bugs.k-c down? |
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nengard |
okay ? bugs.k-c is down |
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jcamins |
nengard: seems to be down, yes. |
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nengard |
who manages that? |
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nengard |
hosts that? |
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jcamins |
It's on the wiki. |
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nengard |
rangi wizzyrea gmcharlt bugs.k-c is down |
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nengard |
you're the ones listed with access on the wiki :) |
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slef |
hi |
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wahanui |
hi, slef |
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slef |
anyone here for kohacon IRC meeting? |
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* jcamins |
isn't, but he'll pretend. :) |
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jwagner |
I guess, if I can be of any help |
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nengard |
hehe |
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slef |
#startmeeting |
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wahanui |
if there is a meeting then Brooke must want me |
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huginn |
Meeting started Wed May 9 18:01:41 2012 UTC. The chair is slef. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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huginn |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. |
| 18:01 |
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slef |
#topic Introductions |
| 18:01 |
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wahanui |
#info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient |
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Topic for #koha is now Introductions |
| 18:02 |
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slef |
Please, introduce yourself by starting with #info like wahanui just did. |
| 18:02 |
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thd |
#info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City |
| 18:02 |
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slef |
#info MJ Ray, software.coop (support service provider, England) |
| 18:02 |
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jcamins |
#info Jared Camins-Esakov, C & P Bibliography Services |
| 18:03 |
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jwagner |
#info Jane Wagner, LibLime/PTFS |
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nengard |
#info Nicole C. Engard, ByWater Solutions |
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bag |
#info Brendan Gallagher ByWater Solutions |
| 18:04 |
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slef |
cool |
| 18:04 |
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slef |
#topic Roadmap to KohaCon2012 |
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Topic for #koha is now Roadmap to KohaCon2012 |
| 18:04 |
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slef |
#info It's one month today! |
| 18:04 |
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nengard |
Woo hoo |
| 18:04 |
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slef |
I'll cover scheduling in the next topic |
| 18:05 |
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slef |
I think mle_ is testing the internet connection any day now. |
| 18:05 |
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slef |
we've had a couple more registrations and a couple more sponsors in the last week |
| 18:06 |
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slef |
but we're still a bit tight on sponsorship. Does anyone have a spare hour or two to help pester people? |
| 18:06 |
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slef |
And can anyone help to announce the conference schedule after the meeting or tomorrow? |
| 18:06 |
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thd |
slef: Do you have a list of candidates to pester? |
| 18:07 |
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slef |
thd: yes, I have a spreadsheet of names and email addresses. |
| 18:08 |
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slef |
thd: might you have spare time to do a mailmerge? |
| 18:08 |
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nengard |
is there a list somewhere of how many (who) are registered? |
| 18:08 |
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thd |
How short is the current sponsorship from the projected cost? |
| 18:09 |
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slef |
nengard: yes, but the list is currently internal in the co-op. I think it's 46 excluding hosts. |
| 18:09 |
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nengard |
thanks |
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slef |
thd: somewhere between 1100 and 1500 short, depending on where in our forecast certain things are. |
| 18:11 |
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slef |
that is, what the difference is between forecast and actual costs |
| 18:11 |
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slef |
sorry... four council meetings yesterday... not at my most coherent today |
| 18:12 |
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slef |
#help could someone do an emailmerge to ask for more sponsorships? |
| 18:12 |
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slef |
#help could people repost the announcement of the conference schedule to more mailing lists, social networks and websites? |
| 18:12 |
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thd |
Is there anything which might be offered as an additional encouragement for the principal existing sponsors? Of course, they should not need an additional inducement. |
| 18:12 |
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nengard |
slef what do you mean by conference schedule? The final schedule? or just that we're having a conference and when and where etc? |
| 18:13 |
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nengard |
I can email the lists I'm on to announce the conference if that's what you mean - I can even link to a schedule of events if we have one ready |
| 18:13 |
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thd |
nengard: the next topic will cover http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ohaCon12_Schedule |
| 18:13 |
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slef |
thd: suggestions? I fear we can only just deliver what we have offered Full Monty sponsors already. |
| 18:13 |
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nengard |
I did post the conference to a few sites already |
| 18:13 |
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nengard |
thd well slef did just ask for help on that :) |
| 18:14 |
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slef |
nengard: it may not be the final schedule, but more info on the talks than currently on the main website. |
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Oak |
night |
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slef |
ok, seems like a good point to... |
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slef |
#topic Scheduling |
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thd |
How much of the total cost is securing the venue? |
| 18:15 |
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Topic for #koha is now Scheduling |
| 18:15 |
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slef |
thd: £960 off the top of my head. |
| 18:15 |
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slef |
that's the basic hire cost I think |
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thd |
Can we stay with funding a little more? |
| 18:15 |
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slef |
we'll come back to it |
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thd |
OK |
| 18:16 |
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slef |
if that's OK? |
| 18:16 |
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slef |
cool |
| 18:16 |
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slef |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_Schedule#Timings |
| 18:16 |
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slef |
#link http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_Schedule#Timings |
| 18:16 |
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slef |
first draft of the timings |
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slef |
I've shortened the names. I need to restructure the table to get the full names in without it becoming messy. |
| 18:17 |
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slef |
But hopefully that gives an idea of what will be on when. |
| 18:17 |
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slef |
Are there any obvious mistakes? |
| 18:17 |
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slef |
I was going a bit word-blind by the time I finished it |
| 18:17 |
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slef |
There are also a few slots with space, as reviewers asked for changes in a few papers |
| 18:18 |
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nengard |
am I reading this right? I'm not speaking? (not complaining .. just asking) |
| 18:19 |
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slef |
so they'll fit in the sessions at Tue 1400, Wed 1000, Thu 1130 |
| 18:19 |
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slef |
nengard: you should be. Let me find you. |
| 18:19 |
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nengard |
Weds afternoon maybe? |
| 18:19 |
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slef |
nengard: Wed 16:00 Koha Training |
| 18:19 |
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nengard |
K - I was reading the list at the top |
| 18:19 |
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slef |
nengard: Thu 14:00 Freedom and Community |
| 18:19 |
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nengard |
it says my talk was in review |
| 18:19 |
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slef |
oh that's stale sorry |
| 18:20 |
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jcamins |
nengard: on Thursday. |
| 18:20 |
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nengard |
oh! twice :) okey dokey - that sounds more like KohaCon to me :) hehe |
| 18:20 |
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slef |
I should have remerged the papers list |
| 18:20 |
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slef |
look under Timings and Abstracts |
| 18:20 |
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jcamins |
Oh, Wednesday, too. |
| 18:20 |
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nengard |
no prob, I understand now |
| 18:21 |
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slef |
nengard: I think you're one of four presenters appearing twice, but the other three are short talks or conference+hackfest. |
| 18:21 |
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slef |
but that's just trivia really |
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nengard |
:) |
| 18:22 |
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slef |
OK - any other feedback on the schedule? |
| 18:22 |
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nengard |
I'm wondering if an intro to what open source is should come in day 1? |
| 18:23 |
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nengard |
it doesn't fit with the schedule the way it is, and I don't mind talking when you have me, just wondering about the content |
| 18:23 |
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thd |
nengard++ |
| 18:24 |
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nengard |
maybe swap with installs/analytics? |
| 18:24 |
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nengard |
although installing is an intro type thing too |
| 18:24 |
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slef |
I'd like to keep Freedom and Community with Organisation, so it needs a 90min block, whereas installs/analytics is a 60min block |
| 18:25 |
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nengard |
so ? migrating? |
| 18:25 |
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slef |
Swap it with Migrating+spare (Tue 1400)? |
| 18:25 |
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slef |
That's the obvious move |
| 18:25 |
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nengard |
works for me |
| 18:26 |
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slef |
Or maybe move Thu 1400 -> Tue 1400, Tue 1400 -> Wed 1400, Wed 1400 -> Thu 1400 |
| 18:26 |
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slef |
if you see what I mean |
| 18:26 |
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nengard |
also makes sense |
| 18:26 |
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slef |
basically, the question is this: |
| 18:26 |
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nengard |
and i think it fits |
| 18:26 |
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thd |
Migrating should perhaps also come relatively early. |
| 18:26 |
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slef |
is it better to have similar content on the same day, or mix it up a bit? |
| 18:27 |
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nengard |
i think there are arguments for both ways |
| 18:27 |
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nengard |
having similar content on one day makes it so that the day has a "theme" |
| 18:27 |
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slef |
10 Heuristics (Tue 1130) is also about migrating |
| 18:27 |
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slef |
BLDS journey (Mon 1030ish) is too |
| 18:27 |
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thd |
I think at the last couple of meetings the issue was raised about not having too many non-librarian oriented technical presentations in one day. |
| 18:28 |
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slef |
arrrgh |
| 18:28 |
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nengard |
I'm seriously not too fussed about it either way, was just wondering if I introduce people to open source on day 3 if it fits |
| 18:28 |
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slef |
Wed 1130, Tue 1030ish |
| 18:28 |
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slef |
I don't cope well with Tuesday starts ;) |
| 18:28 |
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nengard |
intro to opensource is not techie - it's very librarian-oriented |
| 18:28 |
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nengard |
if that helps |
| 18:28 |
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slef |
well, All About People and Using Sandboxes are introducing people to FOSS without using the words |
| 18:28 |
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nengard |
right |
| 18:29 |
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gaetan_B |
hmmm, can someone tell me what are the different possible values for reserves.found and what they mean ? |
| 18:29 |
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nengard |
so do you need my second talk at all? |
| 18:29 |
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slef |
I'm agnostic about when to schedule it. |
| 18:29 |
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nengard |
gaetan_B it's in the manual :) |
| 18:29 |
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nengard |
in an FAQ in an appendix |
| 18:29 |
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slef |
nengard: I thought it was nice to put what Koha does in context with the proper names and all. |
| 18:29 |
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slef |
what koha-community does, rather |
| 18:29 |
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gaetan_B |
nengard: oh... that's practical, i guess i should have looked there first ;) thanks ! |
| 18:30 |
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slef |
thd: that would suggest to keep it mixed up, then. |
| 18:30 |
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nengard |
okey dokey - keep it as it is and avoid any headaches :) |
| 18:31 |
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thd |
Yes, mixed but with the introductory presentations at least weighted towards the front of the schedule. |
| 18:31 |
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slef |
nengard: can you cope with adapting your talk on the fly to reference the other talks as examples of what you're describing? ;-) |
| 18:31 |
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nengard |
yuppers |
| 18:31 |
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slef |
nengard: I thought if anyone can cope with it... |
| 18:31 |
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nengard |
I'm a pro :) |
| 18:32 |
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slef |
thd: right, I think we're on the same page. Anything glaringly misplaced to you? |
| 18:33 |
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slef |
nengard: also, be warned that I may move you forwards in the schedule as a quick fix for anyone who causes me problems ;-) |
| 18:33 |
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nengard |
LOL |
| 18:33 |
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nengard |
Go for it |
| 18:33 |
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* slef |
looks at Mr Videolink over there |
| 18:34 |
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slef |
;) |
| 18:34 |
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thd |
I think with moving Freedom+Community, Organisation to the beginning it seems well balanced. |
| 18:34 |
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jcamins |
slef: that's why I'm providing a non-remote version. |
| 18:34 |
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slef |
ok, I'll shuffle those two afternoons about a bit after the meeting |
| 18:34 |
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nengard |
oh! jcamins is Mr. Videolink? |
| 18:34 |
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* nengard |
was totally confused |
| 18:35 |
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thd |
I might move migrating to one of the morning slots. |
| 18:35 |
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slef |
#agreed to shuffle Tuesday and Thursday afternoons |
| 18:35 |
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nengard |
:) |
| 18:36 |
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thd |
slef: You had said that there are empty slots. |
| 18:36 |
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thd |
Where are those? |
| 18:36 |
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wahanui |
those are good. |
| 18:36 |
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nengard |
okay I need to step out, let me know if/how I can help via email ttyl |
| 18:36 |
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slef |
thd: if I were to do that, I'd swap Wed and Thu mornings and put it in the free slot alongside SRU. |
| 18:37 |
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slef |
thd: slots waiting for reviewed papers are Tue 1400, Wed 1000, Thu 1130 |
| 18:37 |
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thd |
slef: If you were to do what? |
| 18:37 |
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slef |
thd: if I were to move migrating to a morning. |
| 18:38 |
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slef |
thd: as I think migrating wants to be early, but it's mean to put it too near 10 migration heuristics |
| 18:39 |
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slef |
shall we move on/back to funding? |
| 18:39 |
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thd |
slef: Do you mean by 'mean', too much technical discussion back to back? |
| 18:40 |
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slef |
thd: I think it's a bit mean to put talks that could contradict each other too close together on the schedule. |
| 18:40 |
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slef |
thd: also whoever speaks second may suffer migration fatigue among the audience |
| 18:40 |
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thd |
How would they contradict one another? |
| 18:41 |
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thd |
I think that you mean another word than 'contradict'. |
| 18:41 |
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thd |
I think I have the sense of what you mean now. |
| 18:41 |
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slef |
"I'm going to cover what both libraries and developers should know about getting from a proprietary ILS to Koha, and some gotchas that always happen along the way." and "This paper introduces a list of 10 migration heuristics designed to provide readers with a variety of strategies and tools for completing successful data migrations." |
| 18:41 |
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slef |
also they're both workers for vendors |
| 18:42 |
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slef |
just seems good to keep them some space |
| 18:42 |
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slef |
ok, moving on |
| 18:42 |
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thd |
Maybe you do mean 'contradict' in some manner. |
| 18:42 |
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thd |
Yes, moving on. |
| 18:42 |
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slef |
#topic Sponsorship |
| 18:42 |
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Topic for #koha is now Sponsorship |
| 18:42 |
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slef |
ok, over to you thd! ;) |
| 18:43 |
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| 18:43 |
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slef |
What do you want to know? But please don't be offended if I don't want to answer in public immediately for commercial reasons. |
| 18:43 |
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thd |
What inducements have been offered to the highest level of sponsorship? |
| 18:43 |
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slef |
* Your organisation’s logo in the conference programme |
| 18:43 |
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slef |
* A paragraph of text in the conference programme |
| 18:43 |
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slef |
* Your logo on the conference website |
| 18:43 |
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slef |
* Your logo on a poster at the conference |
| 18:43 |
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slef |
* The opportunity to place an insert in the conference pack or flyers on seats |
| 18:46 |
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thd |
Does the logo imply name listed as major sponsor in non-image format? |
| 18:46 |
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slef |
not quite sure what you mean? |
| 18:47 |
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slef |
http://koha-community.org/kohacon12/sponsors/ is the website presentation |
| 18:48 |
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thd |
Does everyone have their names in the form of a logo such that the logos would immediately be understood to those previously unfamiliar with the logos? |
| 18:49 |
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slef |
I've not checked them all but I can't think of one immediately. Can anyone? |
| 18:49 |
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slef |
I've not checked them all but I can't think of one immediately where that isn't the case. Can anyone? |
| 18:49 |
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slef |
I meant |
| 18:50 |
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* jcamins |
cannot. |
| 18:51 |
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thd |
One thing which I can think of is mentioning the sponsor names in at least the official recordings of the conference presentations. |
| 18:52 |
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slef |
#idea mentioning the sponsor names in the official recordings of the conference presentations |
| 18:52 |
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slef |
good idea! |
| 18:52 |
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slef |
we're pretty sure there will be such recordings, one way or another |
| 18:53 |
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slef |
thd: any more? |
| 18:53 |
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thd |
One moment on telephone. |
| 18:54 |
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slef |
thd: can I ask that we discuss this in ordinary IRC another time? |
| 18:55 |
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slef |
I'm taking silence as consent, in the circumstances. |
| 18:55 |
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thd |
One moment. |
| 18:55 |
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thd |
Phone call over. |
| 18:55 |
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slef |
you've got 1 minute |
| 18:56 |
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thd |
How much were the premium sponsorships? |
| 18:56 |
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slef |
£500 |
| 18:56 |
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thd |
How many have been obtained? |
| 18:56 |
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slef |
3 |
| 18:58 |
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thd |
As difficult as it may be, I think that you may need to appeal to already existing sponsors to add additional funds by as much as an equal amount to what they had paid already. |
| 18:59 |
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slef |
ok, noted |
| 18:59 |
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thd |
I would put the idea out that you would like to encourage that if sufficient additional sponsorship is not forthcoming. |
| 19:00 |
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slef |
ok, so 1. approach those who haven't yet donated; 2. if still short, approach existing sponsors? |
| 19:01 |
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thd |
You can at least offer to mention the gratitude of the host to sponsors who doubled or whatever their scheduled sponsorship level to help the conference meet the budget. |
| 19:01 |
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thd |
Maybe those who double their sponsorship could have a special gold star where their logos are listed. |
| 19:02 |
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slef |
if we need to |
| 19:02 |
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thd |
The principle sponsors are also probably the principle financial beneficiaries of the conference activity. |
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slef |
I'm not sure I agree with that. |
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thd |
My statement there was speculative. |
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slef |
ok, noted. Shall we move on to next meeting and close? |
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jcamins |
+1 |
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slef |
#topic Next Meeting |
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thd |
I consider the benefit to be very widely dispersed but my experience from past organising is that very few people are often willing or able to pay enough for a benefit which they do not expect that they need to pay. |
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slef |
#info Next Meeting Wed 16 May 2012 19:00 UTC - slef may be travelling and he is unsure if mle will be back in time, so can someone offer to chair, please? |
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thd |
Is mle still sick? |
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slef |
#endmeeting |
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Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.8.0, 3.6.4 and 3.4.8 Now Available | Koha Community Website - http://www.koha-community.org/ | General IRC meeting, 13 June 2012 at 18:00 UTC+0 |
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huginn |
Meeting ended Wed May 9 19:05:13 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
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huginn |
Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-05-09-18.01.html |
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huginn |
Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]2-05-09-18.01.txt |
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huginn |
Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]09-18.01.log.html |
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slef |
thd: I was meaning that he might not be back from his appointments earlierin the day. |
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thd |
Oh, I am pleased that he is in good health again :) |
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thd |
For the public record, I have been visiting the doctor rather than ignoring some low level infections which can spike unpleasently. |
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* slef |
goes in search of food before editing the schedule again. |
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thd |
On the issue of funding, I understand that it was probably not an option, however, future conferences should be well advised to reduce costs by obtaining an institutional partner to provide free hosting for the conference venue. |
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thd |
I know that free venue hosting can sometimes be difficult, even for an event proposed by a professor at the same institution. |
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thd |
I suggest listing the estimated budget shortfall in additional requests for sponsorship. |
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oleonard |
Is this: http://screencast.com/t/Xl1F0YyG8M an improvement over this: http://screencast.com/t/qEzqGGoJ5tbd ? |
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francharb |
oleonard, hopefully |
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francharb |
;) |
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slef |
thd: UK libraries and universities often even charge their own staff for hosting events now, although usually at lower rates than the public. |
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slef |
thd: we should maybe try to avoid hosting in a country in recession in future ... how's that crystal ball polishing up? ;-) |
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thd |
I have found that the City University of New York often charges its own staff to host a venue. |
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thd |
Most of the world is in recession and maybe for some time. |
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* slef |
ponders dinner |
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* slef |
notes he said that 10mins ago |
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* slef |
JFDIs |
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thd |
I have had favourable information about the relative isolation of some economies in Oceania. |
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* jcamins |
had never heard that abbreviation before. |
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jcamins |
I like it. |
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slef |
jcamins: I think it is from he samesource as TICIFU |
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slef |
the same source |
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* thd |
understands very few IRC abbreviations including the last two. |
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* jcamins |
isn't sure what TICIFU means. It'll come to him. |
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slef |
dict.org searches VERA if you need I think |
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slef |
Typical ICI FU |
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slef |
Up |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
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jcamins |
Well, that was not the expected result. |
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jcamins |
Good. |
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jcamins |
No Bugzilla spam. |
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slef |
spam? |
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is trying to write a script to automate part of the buzilla updating. |
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jcamins |
Right now it doesn't actually do any updating. |
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* thd |
needs to depart. |
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jcamins |
However, the output was entirely unexpected, so I worried briefly that it might've done stuff anyway. |
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slef |
jcamins: It Still Does Nothing |
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jcamins |
slef: good. |
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slef |
ISDN |
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jcamins |
Woohoo! |
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cait |
hi #koha |
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jcamins |
Whoops. I may have updated a few bugs twice. |
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jcamins |
Sorry 'bout that. |
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oleonard |
rangi around? |
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rangi |
Only slightly just arrived in Levin all day meetings today |
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rangi |
What's up Owen? |
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oleonard |
I'm not sure how to explain it well, but I'm wondering if I can define something in T:T (a block?) at the top of a template or in an include and then add something to it later in the template and have it render all in one go |
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jcamins |
"Please stop that lunatic from automatically updating bugzilla!" |
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rangi |
Look up process and block oleonard |
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rangi |
In the tt man pages online |
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rangi |
I think they will do it |
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cait |
oleonard: what are you trying to do? it osunds interesting :) |
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* oleonard |
will look |
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oleonard |
I'm wondering if we can do some CSS/script optimization by consolidating things at the template level in some cases |
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oleonard |
If my page needs to add another CSS include it puts it out of optimal sequence with regard to the other CSS files |
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cait |
ok |
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rangi |
Yeah look up my caching plugin too |
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cait |
I am not sure I can follow :) |
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cait |
but I can find that plugin for you oleonard |
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rangi |
You could cache it so logic not repeated every time |
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cait |
bug 7387 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7387 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Add Template::Toolkit plugin to allow caching of includes |
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wizzyrea |
well that doesn't happen often |
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cait |
hey wizzyrea :) |
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cait |
so silent here |
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wizzyrea |
ya |
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wizzyrea |
I saw my name was highlighted but it went off of my scrollback |
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cait |
wasn't me |
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wizzyrea |
guess I'll have to read the logs |
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wizzyrea |
logs? |
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wahanui |
logs is http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/ |
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wizzyrea |
oh, tons of stuff pushed today |
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wizzyrea |
I guess |
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cait |
jcamins working on 3.6.5 :) |
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wizzyrea |
ok nothing really important :) |
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kathryn |
morning : ) |
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JoeLib001 |
Hello. :-) |
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JoeLib001 |
I have a question about serials and holdings. |
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JoeLib001 |
I have gone through the painful process of cataloging each of our 1200+ titles and am trying to figure out where I need to put the holdings information. |
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JoeLib001 |
Do I have to have a subscription? |
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JoeLib001 |
Do I need an item associated with the record? |
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JoeLib001 |
Well, that's two, but really one. :-) |
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