Time  Nick         Message
22:27 JoeLib001    Well, that's two, but really one. :-)
22:26 JoeLib001    Do I need an item associated with the record?
22:26 JoeLib001    Do I have to have a subscription?
22:26 JoeLib001    I have gone through the painful process of cataloging each of our 1200+ titles and am trying to figure out where I need to put the holdings information.
22:25 JoeLib001    I have a question about serials and holdings.
22:24 JoeLib001    Hello. :-)
22:15 kathryn      morning :  )
20:42 wizzyrea     ok nothing really important :)
20:41 cait         jcamins working on 3.6.5 :)
20:41 wizzyrea     I guess
20:41 wizzyrea     oh, tons of stuff pushed today
20:40 wahanui      logs is http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/
20:40 wizzyrea     logs?
20:40 wizzyrea     guess I'll have to read the logs
20:40 cait         wasn't me
20:39 wizzyrea     I saw my name was highlighted but it went off of my scrollback
20:39 wizzyrea     ya
20:38 cait         so silent here
20:38 cait         hey wizzyrea :)
20:37 wizzyrea     well that doesn't happen often
20:13 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7387 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Add Template::Toolkit plugin to allow caching of includes
20:13 cait         bug 7387
20:13 rangi        You could cache it so logic not repeated every time
20:12 cait         but I can find that plugin for you oleonard
20:12 cait         I am not sure I can follow :)
20:12 rangi        Yeah look up my caching plugin too
20:12 cait         ok
20:11 oleonard     If my page needs to add another CSS include it puts it out of optimal sequence with regard to the other CSS files
20:10 oleonard     I'm wondering if we can do some CSS/script optimization by consolidating things at the template level in some cases
20:09 * oleonard   will look
20:09 cait         oleonard: what are you trying to do? it osunds interesting :)
20:09 rangi        I think they will do it
20:09 rangi        In the tt man pages online
20:09 rangi        Look up process and block oleonard
20:08 jcamins      "Please stop that lunatic from automatically updating bugzilla!"
20:08 oleonard     I'm not sure how to explain it well, but I'm wondering if I can define something in T:T (a block?) at the top of a template or in an include and then add something to it later in the template and have it render all in one go
20:07 rangi        What's up Owen?
20:05 rangi        Only slightly just arrived in Levin all day meetings today
20:05 oleonard     rangi around?
20:04 jcamins      Sorry 'bout that.
20:04 jcamins      Whoops. I may have updated a few bugs twice.
20:04 cait         hi #koha
20:02 jcamins      Woohoo!
19:34 slef         ISDN
19:34 jcamins      slef: good.
19:33 slef         jcamins: It Still Does Nothing
19:32 jcamins      However, the output was entirely unexpected, so I worried briefly that it might've done stuff anyway.
19:32 * thd        needs to depart.
19:31 jcamins      Right now it doesn't actually do any updating.
19:31 * jcamins    is trying to write a script to automate part of the buzilla updating.
19:31 slef         spam?
19:29 jcamins      No Bugzilla spam.
19:29 jcamins      Good.
19:29 jcamins      Well, that was not the expected result.
19:28 jcamins      Ah.
19:28 slef         Up
19:27 slef         Typical ICI FU
19:27 slef         dict.org searches VERA if you need I think
19:27 * jcamins    isn't sure what TICIFU means. It'll come to him.
19:26 * thd        understands very few IRC abbreviations including the last two.
19:26 slef         the same source
19:25 slef         jcamins: I think it is from he samesource as TICIFU
19:21 jcamins      I like it.
19:21 * jcamins    had never heard that abbreviation before.
19:21 thd          I have had favourable information about the relative isolation of some economies in Oceania.
19:21 * slef       JFDIs
19:21 * slef       notes he said that 10mins ago
19:20 * slef       ponders dinner
19:20 thd          Most of the world is in recession and maybe for some time.
19:20 thd          I have found that the City University of New York often charges its own staff to host a venue.
19:19 slef         thd: we should maybe try to avoid hosting in a country in recession in future ... how's that crystal ball polishing up? ;-)
19:18 slef         thd: UK libraries and universities often even charge their own staff for hosting events now, although usually at lower rates than the public.
19:16 francharb    ;)
19:16 francharb    oleonard, hopefully
19:14 oleonard     Is this: http://screencast.com/t/Xl1F0YyG8M an improvement over this: http://screencast.com/t/qEzqGGoJ5tbd ?
19:13 thd          I suggest listing the estimated budget shortfall in additional requests for sponsorship.
19:11 thd          I know that free venue hosting can sometimes be difficult, even for an event proposed by a professor at the same institution.
19:10 thd          On the issue of funding, I understand that it was probably not an option, however, future conferences should be well advised to reduce costs by obtaining an institutional partner to provide free hosting for the conference venue.
19:09 * slef       goes in search of food before editing the schedule again.
19:08 slef         [off] /msg me if you want to know more.
19:08 thd          For the public record, I have been visiting the doctor rather than ignoring some low level infections which can spike unpleasently.
19:08 slef         [off] I just keep on taking the tablets.
19:07 slef         [off] whereas me, I'm chronically ill and generally don't mention it on the record.
19:07 thd          [off] OK
19:06 slef         [off] I just think it's for him to say that on the public record if he wishes.
19:06 slef         [off] but I believe he is still ill.
19:06 thd          Oh, I am pleased that he is in good health again :)
19:05 slef         thd: I was meaning that he might not be back from his appointments earlierin the day.
19:05 huginn       Log:            http://meetings.koha-community.org/2012/koha.2012-05-09-18.01.log.html
19:05 huginn       Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2012/koha.2012-05-09-18.01.txt
19:05 huginn       Minutes:        http://meetings.koha-community.org/2012/koha.2012-05-09-18.01.html
19:05 huginn       Meeting ended Wed May  9 19:05:13 2012 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
19:05 slef         #endmeeting
19:05 thd          Is mle still sick?
19:04 slef         #info Next Meeting Wed 16 May 2012 19:00 UTC - slef may be travelling and he is unsure if mle will be back in time, so can someone offer to chair, please?
19:04 thd          I consider the benefit to be very widely dispersed but my experience from past organising is that very few people are often willing or able to pay enough for a benefit which they do not expect that they need to pay.
19:04 slef         #topic Next Meeting
19:03 jcamins      +1
19:03 slef         ok, noted. Shall we move on to next meeting and close?
19:03 thd          My statement there was speculative.
19:02 slef         I'm not sure I agree with that.
19:02 thd          The principle sponsors are also probably the principle financial beneficiaries of the conference activity.
19:02 slef         if we need to
19:01 thd          Maybe those who double their sponsorship could have a special gold star where their logos are listed.
19:01 thd          You can at least offer to mention the gratitude of the host to sponsors who doubled or whatever their scheduled sponsorship level to help the conference meet the budget.
19:00 slef         ok, so 1. approach those who haven't yet donated; 2. if still short, approach existing sponsors?
18:59 thd          I would put the idea out that you would like to encourage that if sufficient additional sponsorship is not forthcoming.
18:59 slef         ok, noted
18:58 thd          As difficult as it may be, I think that you may need to appeal to already existing sponsors to add additional funds by as much as an equal amount to what they had paid already.
18:56 slef            3
18:56 thd          How many have been obtained?
18:56 slef         £500
18:56 thd          How much were the premium sponsorships?
18:55 slef         you've got 1 minute
18:55 thd          Phone call over.
18:55 thd          One moment.
18:55 slef         I'm taking silence as consent, in the circumstances.
18:54 slef         thd: can I ask that we discuss this in ordinary IRC another time?
18:53 thd          One moment on telephone.
18:53 slef         thd: any more?
18:52 slef         we're pretty sure there will be such recordings, one way or another
18:52 slef         good idea!
18:52 slef         #idea mentioning the sponsor names in the official recordings of the conference presentations
18:51 thd          One thing which I can think of is mentioning the sponsor names in at least the official recordings of the conference presentations.
18:50 * jcamins    cannot.
18:49 slef         I meant
18:49 slef         I've not checked them all but I can't think of one immediately where that isn't the case. Can anyone?
18:49 slef         I've not checked them all but I can't think of one immediately. Can anyone?
18:48 thd          Does everyone have their names in the form of a logo such that the logos would immediately be understood to those previously unfamiliar with the logos?
18:47 slef         http://koha-community.org/kohacon12/sponsors/ is the website presentation
18:46 slef         not quite sure what you mean?
18:46 thd          Does the logo imply name listed as major sponsor in non-image format?
18:43 slef         * The opportunity to place an insert in the conference pack or flyers on seats
18:43 slef         * Your logo on a poster at the conference
18:43 slef         * Your logo on the conference website
18:43 slef         * A paragraph of text in the conference programme
18:43 slef         * Your organisation’s logo in the conference programme
18:43 thd          What inducements have been offered to the highest level of sponsorship?
18:43 slef         What do you want to know? But please don't be offended if I don't want to answer in public immediately for commercial reasons.
18:42 slef         ok, over to you thd! ;)
18:42 slef         #topic Sponsorship
18:42 thd          Yes, moving on.
18:42 thd          Maybe you do mean 'contradict' in some manner.
18:42 slef         ok, moving on
18:42 slef         just seems good to keep them some space
18:41 slef         also they're both workers for vendors
18:41 slef         "I'm going to cover what both libraries and developers should know about getting from a proprietary ILS to Koha, and some gotchas that always happen along the way." and "This paper introduces a list of 10 migration heuristics designed to provide readers with a variety of strategies and tools for completing successful data migrations."
18:41 thd          I think I have the sense of what you mean now.
18:41 thd          I think that you mean another word than 'contradict'.
18:40 thd          How would they contradict one another?
18:40 slef         thd: also whoever speaks second may suffer migration fatigue among the audience
18:40 slef         thd: I think it's a bit mean to put talks that could contradict each other too close together on the schedule.
18:39 thd          slef:  Do you mean by 'mean', too much technical discussion back to back?
18:39 slef         shall we move on/back to funding?
18:38 slef         thd: as I think migrating wants to be early, but it's mean to put it too near 10 migration heuristics
18:37 slef         thd: if I were to move migrating to a morning.
18:37 thd          slef: If you were to do what?
18:37 slef         thd: slots waiting for reviewed papers are  Tue 1400, Wed 1000, Thu 1130
18:36 slef         thd: if I were to do that, I'd swap Wed and Thu mornings and put it in the free slot alongside SRU.
18:36 nengard      okay I need to step out, let me know if/how I can help via email ttyl
18:36 wahanui      those are good.
18:36 thd          Where are those?
18:36 thd          slef: You had said that there are empty slots.
18:35 nengard      :)
18:35 slef         #agreed to shuffle Tuesday and Thursday afternoons
18:35 thd          I might move migrating to one of the morning slots.
18:34 * nengard    was totally confused
18:34 nengard      oh! jcamins is Mr. Videolink?
18:34 slef         ok, I'll shuffle those two afternoons about a bit after the meeting
18:34 jcamins      slef: that's why I'm providing a non-remote version.
18:34 thd          I think with moving Freedom+Community, Organisation to the beginning it seems well balanced.
18:34 slef         ;)
18:33 * slef       looks at Mr Videolink over there
18:33 nengard      Go for it
18:33 nengard      LOL
18:33 slef         nengard: also, be warned that I may move you forwards in the schedule as a quick fix for anyone who causes me problems ;-)
18:32 slef         thd: right, I think we're on the same page. Anything glaringly misplaced to you?
18:31 nengard      I'm a pro :)
18:31 slef         nengard: I thought if anyone can cope with it...
18:31 nengard      yuppers
18:31 slef         nengard: can you cope with adapting your talk on the fly to reference the other talks as examples of what you're describing? ;-)
18:31 thd          Yes, mixed but with the introductory presentations at least weighted towards the front of the schedule.
18:30 nengard      okey dokey - keep it as it is and avoid any headaches :)
18:30 slef         thd: that would suggest to keep it mixed up, then.
18:29 gaetan_B     nengard: oh... that's practical, i guess i should have looked there first ;) thanks !
18:29 slef         what koha-community does, rather
18:29 slef         nengard: I thought it was nice to put what Koha does in context with the proper names and all.
18:29 nengard      in an FAQ in an appendix
18:29 nengard      gaetan_B it's in the manual :)
18:29 slef         I'm agnostic about when to schedule it.
18:29 nengard      so do you need my second talk at all?
18:29 gaetan_B     hmmm, can someone tell me what are the different possible values for reserves.found and what they mean ?
18:28 nengard      right
18:28 slef         well, All About People and Using Sandboxes are introducing people to FOSS without using the words
18:28 nengard      if that helps
18:28 nengard      intro to opensource is not techie - it's very librarian-oriented
18:28 slef         I don't cope well with Tuesday starts ;)
18:28 slef         Wed 1130, Tue 1030ish
18:28 nengard      I'm seriously not too fussed about it either way, was just wondering if I introduce people to open source on day 3 if it fits
18:28 slef         arrrgh
18:27 thd          I think at the last couple of meetings the issue was raised about not having too many non-librarian oriented technical presentations in one day.
18:27 slef         BLDS journey (Mon 1030ish) is too
18:27 slef         10 Heuristics (Tue 1130) is also about migrating
18:27 nengard      having similar content on one day makes it so that the day has a "theme"
18:27 nengard      i think there are arguments for both ways
18:26 slef         is it better to have similar content on the same day, or mix it up a bit?
18:26 thd          Migrating should perhaps also come relatively early.
18:26 nengard      and i think it fits
18:26 slef         basically, the question is this:
18:26 nengard      also makes sense
18:26 slef         if you see what I mean
18:26 slef         Or maybe move Thu 1400 -> Tue 1400, Tue 1400 -> Wed 1400, Wed 1400 -> Thu 1400
18:25 nengard      works for me
18:25 slef         That's the obvious move
18:25 slef         Swap it with Migrating+spare (Tue 1400)?
18:25 nengard      so ? migrating?
18:24 slef         I'd like to keep Freedom and Community with Organisation, so it needs a 90min block, whereas installs/analytics is a 60min block
18:24 nengard      although installing is an intro type thing too
18:24 nengard      maybe swap with installs/analytics?
18:23 thd          nengard++
18:23 nengard      it doesn't fit with the schedule the way it is, and I don't mind talking when you have me, just wondering about the content
18:22 nengard      I'm wondering if an intro to what open source is should come in day 1?
18:22 slef         OK - any other feedback on the schedule?
18:21 nengard      :)
18:21 slef         but that's just trivia really
18:21 slef         nengard: I think you're one of four presenters appearing twice, but the other three are short talks or conference+hackfest.
18:20 nengard      no prob, I understand now
18:20 jcamins      Oh, Wednesday, too.
18:20 slef         look under Timings and Abstracts
18:20 slef         I should have remerged the papers list
18:20 nengard      oh! twice :) okey dokey - that sounds more like KohaCon to me :) hehe
18:20 jcamins      nengard: on Thursday.
18:19 slef         oh that's stale sorry
18:19 nengard      it says my talk was in review
18:19 slef         nengard: Thu 14:00 Freedom and Community
18:19 nengard      K - I was reading the list at the top
18:19 slef         nengard: Wed 16:00 Koha Training
18:19 nengard      Weds afternoon maybe?
18:19 slef         nengard: you should be. Let me find you.
18:19 slef         so they'll fit in the sessions at Tue 1400, Wed 1000, Thu 1130
18:18 nengard      am I reading this right? I'm not speaking? (not complaining .. just asking)
18:17 slef         There are also a few slots with space, as reviewers asked for changes in a few papers
18:17 slef         I was going a bit word-blind by the time I finished it
18:17 slef         Are there any obvious mistakes?
18:17 slef         But hopefully that gives an idea of what will be on when.
18:16 slef         I've shortened the names. I need to restructure the table to get the full names in without it becoming messy.
18:16 slef         first draft of the timings
18:16 slef         #link http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon12_Schedule#Timings
18:16 slef         http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon12_Schedule#Timings
18:16 slef         cool
18:16 slef         if that's OK?
18:15 thd          OK
18:15 slef         we'll come back to it
18:15 thd          Can we stay with funding a little more?
18:15 slef         that's the basic hire cost I think
18:15 slef         thd: £960 off the top of my head.
18:15 thd          How much of the total cost is securing the venue?
18:15 slef         #topic Scheduling
18:14 slef         ok, seems like a good point to...
18:14 Oak          night
18:14 slef         nengard: it may not be the final schedule, but more info on the talks than currently on the main website.
18:13 nengard      thd well slef did just ask for help on that :)
18:13 nengard      I did post the conference to a few sites already
18:13 slef         thd: suggestions? I fear we can only just deliver what we have offered Full Monty sponsors already.
18:13 thd          nengard: the next topic will cover http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon12_Schedule
18:13 nengard      I can email the lists I'm on to announce the conference if that's what you mean - I can even link to a schedule of events if we have one ready
18:12 nengard      slef what do you mean by conference schedule? The final schedule? or just that we're having a conference and when and where etc?
18:12 thd          Is there anything which might be offered as an additional encouragement for the principal existing sponsors?  Of course, they should not need an additional inducement.
18:12 slef         #help could people repost the announcement of the conference schedule to more mailing lists, social networks and websites?
18:12 slef         #help could someone do an emailmerge to ask for more sponsorships?
18:11 slef         sorry... four council meetings yesterday... not at my most coherent today
18:11 slef         that is, what the difference is between forecast and actual costs
18:10 slef         thd: somewhere between 1100 and 1500 short, depending on where in our forecast certain things are.
18:09 nengard      thanks
18:09 slef         nengard: yes, but the list is currently internal in the co-op. I think it's 46 excluding hosts.
18:08 thd          How short is the current sponsorship from the projected cost?
18:08 nengard      is there a list somewhere of how many (who) are registered?
18:08 slef         thd: might you have spare time to do a mailmerge?
18:07 slef         thd: yes, I have a spreadsheet of names and email addresses.
18:06 thd          slef: Do you have a list of candidates to pester?
18:06 slef         And can anyone help to announce the conference schedule after the meeting or tomorrow?
18:06 slef         but we're still a bit tight on sponsorship. Does anyone have a spare hour or two to help pester people?
18:05 slef         we've had a couple more registrations and a couple more sponsors in the last week
18:05 slef         I think mle_ is testing the internet connection any day now.
18:04 slef         I'll cover scheduling in the next topic
18:04 nengard      Woo hoo
18:04 slef         #info It's one month today!
18:04 slef         #topic Roadmap to KohaCon2012
18:04 slef         cool
18:03 bag          #info Brendan Gallagher ByWater Solutions
18:03 nengard      #info Nicole C. Engard, ByWater Solutions
18:03 jwagner      #info Jane Wagner, LibLime/PTFS
18:02 jcamins      #info Jared Camins-Esakov, C & P Bibliography Services
18:02 slef         #info MJ Ray, software.coop (support service provider, England)
18:02 thd          #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City
18:02 slef         Please, introduce yourself by starting with #info like wahanui just did.
18:01 wahanui      #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient
18:01 slef         #topic Introductions
18:01 huginn       Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic.
18:01 huginn       Meeting started Wed May  9 18:01:41 2012 UTC.  The chair is slef. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
18:01 wahanui      if there is a meeting then Brooke must want me
18:01 slef         #startmeeting
18:01 nengard      hehe
18:01 jwagner      I guess, if I can be of any help
18:01 * jcamins    isn't, but he'll pretend. :)
18:00 slef         anyone here for kohacon IRC meeting?
18:00 wahanui      hi, slef
18:00 slef         hi
18:00 nengard      you're the ones listed with access on the wiki :)
18:00 nengard      rangi wizzyrea gmcharlt bugs.k-c is down
17:59 jcamins      It's on the wiki.
17:59 nengard      hosts that?
17:59 nengard      who manages that?
17:58 jcamins      nengard: seems to be down, yes.
17:58 nengard      okay ? bugs.k-c is down
17:56 nengard      is bugs.k-c down?
17:37 mib_1z43xy   the FAQ helped me solve it, thanks very much!
17:33 jenkins_koha robin: Bug 7824 - [3.6.x] show the first name correctly in the OPAC user update screen
17:33 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.6.x build #46: SUCCESS in 43 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.6.x/46/
17:17 mib_1z43xy   btw, i followed INSTALL.Debian guide
17:16 mib_1z43xy   i'll check out the faq
17:16 mib_1z43xy   its install, ldzebra
17:15 mib_1z43xy   i installed all sample data durinf install and then added 5 additional marc21 records and still can't get any results from the opac search page
17:15 jcamins      ^^ you'll want to read that document. It is *very* unlikely that the problem you are encountering is a result of the package installation, unless the problem is that Zebra hasn't been installed at all.
17:15 wahanui      searching faq is, like, at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/
17:15 jcamins      searching faq?
17:14 mib_1z43xy   thanks but i did try to ignore it and the result i have now is that i .... i don't think indexing is working
17:13 jcamins      gmcharlt: thanks!
17:13 gmcharlt     jcamins: done
17:13 jcamins      It's also safe to ignore that error, which is what I do.
17:12 jcamins      mib_1z43xy: if you're on a recent version of Ubuntu, you don't need to install the GPG signatures.
17:12 mib_1z43xy   any ideas what i need to do?
17:11 mib_1z43xy   i've apt-key del Indexdata then added it again with the same result when updated
17:10 mib_1z43xy   i've downloaded it several times with the same result
17:10 mib_1z43xy   this is from http://ftp.indexdata.dk/bedian/indexdata.asc file
17:09 mib_1z43xy   were invalid
17:09 mib_1z43xy   I keep getting a error when doing "apt-get update"    GPG error the following signatures wew invalid ...
17:07 huginn       jcamins: The operation succeeded.
17:07 jcamins      @later tell magnuse Should bug 7537 have been pushed to 3.6.x? I can revert it if you want me to, but I need to know soon.
17:06 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7537 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, RESOLVED FIXED, Implement TraceCompleteSubfields, TraceSubjectSubdivisions and UseICU for NORMARC XSLT
17:06 jcamins      magnus_afk: should bug 7537 have been pushed to 3.6.x?
17:01 oleonard     Under what conditions does a user's CGISESSID change? Is it tied to the session controlled by the "timeout" system pref?
16:59 jcamins      I think maybe I need to use WWW::Mechanize to automate marking things as pushed to stable.
16:49 jenkins_koha Starting build #46 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
16:46 slef         back in 75mins for kohacon12 meeting
16:46 jcamins      My script had a typo.
16:46 jcamins      gmcharlt: any chance you could delete the 3.6.x-rmaint/testing branch?
16:46 wahanui      RMaint are rangi and jcamins
16:46 slef         RMaint?
16:46 slef         jcamins: oic. I can never remember so I go
16:45 jcamins      slef: I'm RMaint.
16:45 jcamins      Sorry folks.
16:45 evyugi       k, ill try that
16:45 slef         jcamins: I didn't know you had write access to it!
16:45 jcamins      I just screwed up the git repo.
16:45 jcamins      Bah.
16:44 oleonard     slef: I think the latest release is the newest LTS
16:44 slef         evyugi: see jcamins
16:44 jcamins      evyugi: if you are already running into problems with installation, you are almost certainly better off using the packages.
16:44 slef         oleonard: is that the latest LTS?
16:44 jcamins      However, the packages are much easier.
16:44 oleonard     INSTALL.ubuntu.lucid is for 10.04 LTS
16:44 evyugi       is there one for 11.10?
16:43 slef         evyugi: I think fixing is better than wiping, but it's up to you.
16:43 slef         wow, INSTALL.ubuntu is for 9.04
16:43 huginn       evyugi: I suck
16:43 evyugi       @slef should i uninstall everything and restart? i'm still new to all this
16:41 mib_1z43xy   I saw the same message yesterday on my first-time install, i found that i had the wrong database name, koha instead of what I made it kohadb
16:41 slef         oh yeah, packages are good too
16:40 wahanui      it has been said that packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian
16:40 jcamins      packages?
16:40 slef         yep, just in the top folder
16:40 jcamins      evyugi: if you are using Ubuntu 11.10, you should use the packages.
16:40 evyugi       oh, that in the tar right?
16:40 slef         the wiki might not
16:40 slef         the INSTALL file will match the version you downloaded
16:40 evyugi       wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/koha_on_ubuntu
16:40 slef         use INSTALL.ubuntu not the wiki
16:40 slef         oh no
16:39 slef         have you checked that it can connect with mysql?
16:39 jcamins      evyugi: which wiki guide?
16:39 evyugi       yes i have
16:39 slef         evyugi: have you created a kohaadmin user in your mysql?
16:39 evyugi       ok, if that convinent too
16:39 slef         please don't ask for pm... the answers should be shared
16:39 evyugi       please pm me if u can help
16:38 evyugi       BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/mainpage.pl line 25.
16:38 evyugi       Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/mainpage.pl line 25.
16:38 evyugi       BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Auth.pm line 33.
16:38 evyugi       Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Auth.pm line 33.
16:38 evyugi       Access denied for user 'kohaadmin'@'localhost' (using password: YES) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 730.
16:38 evyugi       i'm using the wiki guide, and at the last step to configure koha via admin page, and getting this software errors:Software error:
16:38 slef         could do with some rewriting, but you get the idea
16:37 jcamins      Ooh, that's a good one.
16:37 slef         jcamins: see wahanui ;)
16:37 jcamins      slef: yes?
16:37 jcamins      Oh yeah, that's a great one too.
16:37 wahanui      just ask, don't ask if you can ask and if the right people are not here, they won't answer or you can use huginn's @later to leave a message
16:37 slef         jcamins: meta-question?
16:36 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5184 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Upgrade jQuery to the latest version
16:36 wahanui      bug 5184 is the priority
16:36 slef         bug 5184?
16:35 oleonard     And 5184!
16:35 jcamins      paul_p: when will you be doing your next round of pushing to master? I'm very much looking forward to bugs 7248 and 7249 being pushed.
16:33 jcamins      evyugi: if you have a specific question, you should just go ahead and ask. Anyone who can help will do so.
16:31 evyugi       hi, I just started installing koha on ubuntu 11.10 and am very new to all this, are there anyone that can offer me some assistance?
16:09 francharb    hi
16:03 jcamins      I think so, yes.
16:02 chris_n      hmm... does that make sense?
16:02 chris_n      well, I have added a "check-all" option which preserves whatever comes up checked by default when unchecked
16:01 chris_n      bye
16:01 kf           bye all :)
16:01 kf           ok, now I go!
16:01 kf           good point :)
16:01 kf           somewhere?
16:01 kf           perhaps has the names of the sql files?
16:01 kf           hm yes
16:01 kf           ah
16:01 chris_n      so somewhere it has to know
16:01 chris_n      no, I think there is code on the backend to discern because the mandatory foo comes up checked by default
16:00 kf           mandatory is before optional in the alphabet :)
16:00 kf           yeah, I meant when you name the folder not mandatory, but something else
16:00 chris_n      ie. things under the "mandatory" header are indeed mandatory... at least in en
16:00 chris_n      it sorts them correctly afaict
16:00 kf           yes, but where do you tell it what is mandatory?
15:59 kf           so not easy to fix
15:59 chris_n      so the question is: should mandatory things not have the option of being unchecked?
15:59 kf           and I think it's listing them alphabetically? and whatever you put there will work (.txt + .sql file)
15:59 chris_n      kf: right
15:58 kf           that's why some languages have different names for the directories
15:58 kf           for example it pulls the label from the folder name
15:58 kf           chris_n: perhaps because it's not knowig that it's mandatory
15:55 jcamins      Agreed.
15:55 chris_n      it seems sort of counter productive to the entire hope of a working installation
15:55 jcamins      chris_n: I have no idea, but I have wondered about that in the past.
15:54 chris_n      can someone remind me why we permit the unchecking of "mandatory" data in webinstaller?
15:43 jcamins      slef: probably not.
15:43 slef         guessing that's not a valid registration then...
15:43 slef
15:43 slef         Hackfest (9-11 June 2012):      -
15:43 slef         Conference (5-7 June 2012):     -
15:43 slef         ----------------------Attendance Details------------------
15:42 jcamins      You know, a better solution for topissues would probably be to use the reports webservice.
15:36 kf           probably key is to not assume a mapping, but have the code check for it each time
15:36 paul_p       kf = as I said, many libraries are using this configuration safely here. But I agree we will have to double check any update in this area !
15:36 slef         jcamins: can you put "(remote presentation)" or similar on the abstract on the wiki please?
15:36 kf           it's only it feels wrong to me still perhaps :)
15:35 kf           paul_p: not talking about topissues, but perhaps other places
15:35 kf           paul_p: I agree, but I am not sure cheating the configuration this way will not cause you more headache in the future
15:34 jcamins      slef: I'll use Skype or some other video conferencing program if all works, but I'm also going to write the paper in advance and send it to someone who will be at KohaCon, so that we have a backup plan for when technology undoubtedly fails us.
15:34 paul_p       kf well, just fixing opac-topissues for this particular case is easy. Rewrite everything is ... well ... too big...
15:34 kf           paul_p: thinking if you can fix it that it works with oyur setup and other configurations it will always be an improvement over what it's doing now :)
15:34 kf           paul_p: I think doing it right would require lots more work - I mean making it flexible enough to have this mix of item leel and biblio level work in all cases - but as it's broken now anyway, we will need it fixed oen way or the other
15:34 slef         jcamins: remind me, are you presenting over videolink?
15:33 slef         oh right... no I didn't move that one around too much
15:32 jcamins      "But my patrons need more information!"
15:32 slef         I think I started off with it there (guessing at timezone) but probably moved it 3 times since.
15:32 slef         jcamins: which one was yours? :)
15:32 jcamins      I forgot to ask you to do that.
15:32 jcamins      slef: thanks for scheduling my talk at the end of the day.
15:31 kf           I also think the combination of item-level_itypes activated + forcing it to use a biblio level value is probably going to be bad
15:30 slef         http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon12_Schedule#Timings first draft posted
15:30 paul_p       yep
15:30 kf           well everyone using more than one search otpion and having top issues activated :)
15:30 paul_p       so, it's broken for everyone !
15:30 kf           yeah
15:29 paul_p       mmm... you're right, we will probably have a problem here (and everybody will, because the code says : $if (advanced_search_types eq 'ccode')
15:29 paul_p       kf = I don't want to add a new feature ! just fix opac-topissues to handle properly this configuration.
15:29 kf           so how is it going to choose?
15:29 kf           you can have itemtypes, locations and collections searchable at the same time now
15:28 kf           uhoh
15:28 kf           because advancedsearchtype is no longer a single value
15:28 kf           and it's even mroe complicated
15:28 kf           with a new feature added
15:28 kf           and it's going to explode in another place next time
15:27 kf           I think it's changing something in a way that it was never designed to do, and in a way that will not be obvious or logical
15:26 kf           not sure how to explain what I mean, trying to find words
15:26 kf           hm
15:26 paul_p       kf = bend the rules ?
15:25 kf           paul_p: because the proposed fix will bend the rules
15:25 kf           paul_p: and that is why I say it "feels wrong"
15:25 oleonard     But if in general itemtypes+ccodes are not enough to solve everyone's problems then what do we need to add?
15:25 paul_p       (and do the JOIN accordingly)
15:25 * paul_p     feel a bugfix will be needed, something like "if syspref is ccode, then check if ccode is attached to items.ccode or biblioitems.itemtype"
15:25 oleonard     Well if opac-topissues is all this is about then re-write it since it's such a mess
15:24 paul_p       oleonard = itemtypes or ccode, depending on your setyp. And it really works well already. Except for opac-topissues.
15:23 oleonard     What would you use a new biblio-level document type for?
15:22 paul_p       oleonard = the material type designation can be in 200$b, but that's used in BNF records, and sometimes/often, libraries want a different value, like "printed material" for BNF being "book", "children book", "fiction book" for the library. So we usually put it in a X9X field
15:21 oleonard     Is there no UNIMARC material type designation? That sounds like what you're talking about paul_p
15:19 kf           ok, I might agree that the naming is unfortunate and perhaps we needed something else - but it's done now :) and I always thought it was intended that you could have circulation rules on biblio level (although it does not make sense for academic libraries here)
15:18 paul_p       in Koha 2.x = biblioitems.itemtypes = material type AND issuing rule applied.
15:18 paul_p       (biblioitems => biblio level)
15:18 paul_p       kf = so in fact, you agree with me ;-) (in Koha 1.x and 2.x the "document type" was in biblioitems.itemtypes. It has been introduced at item level to have different issuing rules)
15:18 kf           and they like the small icons that are generated using the marc21 fields (with the exception that there is one buggy combination I have to track down sometime)
15:17 kf           and put everything else they want for search into collections and locations
15:17 kf           paul_p: I see itemtypes not as ITEMtypes... I always tell the libraries to treat them as loan types
15:16 paul_p       but that's another topic, and probably almost impossible to change now.
15:16 slef         I am going mad with this schedule
15:16 kf           paul_p: I don't think I fully agree - I think the naming is perhaps wrong, but ideally the itemtype should come from the marc21/unimarc record
15:16 slef         what are the best slots at a conference? Opening each half-day?
15:16 kf           paul_p: hmm
15:15 paul_p       I think the itemtype should always have been for ... the item type, and something else should have been introduced for issuing rules that differ from itemtypes. Now we have itemtypes for item type or issuing rules, and the item type is sometimes in authorised values. Having icons added into authorised_values is a symptom that there is something wrong. With the QA we have now, it would not make his way into Koha (at least with me as RM !)
15:14 jcamins      paul_p: opac-topissues is certainly horrifying.
15:14 reiveune1    bye
15:13 kf           paul_p: define all this? :)
15:12 paul_p       kf = well, I've a long lasting feeling that there's a mess with all this code...
15:09 paul_p       slef of course
15:09 kf           paul_p: I can see some reasons to do it... but I think the code is not made for it
15:09 paul_p       s/UNIMARC addicts/UNIMARC addict french libraries customers of BibLibre/
15:09 slef         paul_p: can I have a word?
15:08 paul_p       oleonard = some UNIMARC addicts have (but, as you know, frenchies are always complaining ;-) )
15:07 oleonard     For us item type and ccode are *usually* redundant and no one has complained : http://search.myacpl.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=48473
15:06 kf           and there used to be bugs if it was empty (with holds) but I think they are fixed now
15:06 kf           becaus this way it will appear as default on the item form
15:05 paul_p       oleonard I think both.
15:05 kf           paul_p: I set it to the mostly used itemtype by default
15:05 paul_p       kf = so for you bibliotems.itemtypes is always empty ?
15:05 oleonard     paul_p: What is objectionable about that redundancy? Data entry? the appearance in the OPAC?
15:05 kf           not only to reflect the type of item... so they might be different for each item
15:05 kf           or can use them different
15:05 kf           paul_p: that's the same here - but I think people are using ccodes different
15:04 paul_p       (at least in UNIMARC, if one is a book and one a large-print book, then it's supposed to be a different biblio)
15:04 wahanui      kf: I forgot which
15:04 kf           forget which
15:04 kf           items are local, bibliographic records are central (from the union catalog, same for all)
15:04 paul_p       oleonard = because if the library has 5 items of this document, then they all are books and it's useless to store 5 times items.ccode='book'
15:04 wahanui      okay, kf.
15:04 kf           which is also necessary because of the union catalog situation
15:03 kf           we do it all on item level
15:03 kf           I think the biblio itemtype is not something I have seen in other ils so far, so noone ever requested it
15:03 oleonard     paul_p: Why not items.itype ='NOCHECKOUT' or 'NORMAL' and items.ccode = 'book' ?
15:03 kf           I think I would use a different field, but it will not hlep your problem here
15:03 paul_p       kf = how could you setup Koha then ?
15:02 paul_p       well items.ccode field is empty
15:02 kf           paul_p: I still think this sounds like a bad idea
15:02 paul_p       and ccode is empty
15:02 paul_p       to = biblioitems.itemtype = 'book' and items.itype ='NOCHECKOUT' or 'NORMAL'
15:01 paul_p       (1 that can't be issued, 3 that can)
15:01 paul_p       kf = because we have many libraries that have a different issuingrule for a given biblio (1 that can't be issued, and 3 that can't), but that's a book, so they don't want to record it 3 times -at item level-
15:01 kf           paul_p: the reasoning for exchanging ccode and itemtypes
15:01 kf           paul_p: I understand they are doing it, I only don't understand why
15:01 jcamins      paul_p: how do you have itemlevel itypes set?
15:00 paul_p       and many libraries supported by us are doing that.
15:00 kf           and why not use itemtypes if you want ccode to act like itemtype?
15:00 paul_p       kf = not at all.
15:00 kf           doesn't it break circulation in other places?
15:00 paul_p       this ccode thing is really a pain... (error in implementation)
14:59 kf           paul_p: but why would one want to do that?
14:59 paul_p       jcamins = yes, ccode CAN be stored in biblioitems.itemtype. Just connect your ccode authorised_values to the field that uses biblioitems.itemtypes, and it works like a charm ! (except for opac-topissues)
14:58 jcamins      paul_p: ccode isn't stored at biblio level. It's itemtype that can be biblio- or item-level.
14:58 * kf         hands ysou a cookie and puts a pillow on the desk
14:58 jcamins      Yes please!
14:57 * jcamins    slams his head on the desk repeatedly, trying to dislodge the horrifying SQL from his cranium.
14:57 kf           jcamins: are you blind now? want a cookie?
14:57 kf           jcamins: yes, that's what I am saying - it should not work. It's probably configured that way someohow... but the code does not know
14:57 jcamins      Don't look at the source of opac-topissues.pl!
14:57 jcamins      Let this be a warning to you all!
14:56 * jcamins    gouges his eyes out.
14:56 jcamins      Oh my.
14:55 oleonard     Most checked out items
14:55 jcamins      What does opac-topissues do?
14:55 jcamins      itype can be at biblio-level, not ccode.
14:54 jcamins      ccode isn't stored at biblio level.
14:54 kf           ccode at biblio level? I don't think this should work
14:53 kf           ah no paul
14:50 chris_n      jcamins++
14:50 wahanui      unimarc is http://www.ifla.org/en/publications/unimarc-formats-and-related-documentation
14:50 jcamins      unimarc?
14:49 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7977 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Signed Off , Add a "Quote-of-the-day" feature to the OPAC homepage
14:49 jcamins      Bug 7977 is signed off.
14:48 chris_n      for module tests it probably makes sense to import the entire shebang
14:48 chris_n      by adding ':DEFAULT' to qw() you get @EXPORT and whatever else you choose there
14:47 * jcamins    did not know that either.
14:47 chris_n      I did not know that 'use foo qw()' imports *only* the subs mentioned in qw() omitting @EXPORT
14:46 jcamins      Squashed.
14:45 chris_n      that will ensure that future tests of C4::Koha work as well
14:45 * chris_n    just learned something about importing functions which he did not know before
14:45 chris_n      ok, squash that one into Koha.t as well
14:45 * oleonard   grumbles about not being able to specify a remote image for a collection code
14:44 jcamins      chris_n: standing by.
14:43 chris_n      jcamins: stand by for a further fixup for Koha.t
14:38 jcamins      Okay, that fixed it.
14:37 jcamins      Well, reposting.
14:37 chris_n      cool
14:36 jcamins      I'll be reordering them anyway.
14:36 chris_n      the problem stemmed from the way I was ref'ing the sub
14:36 chris_n      you can squash... otherwise I'll have to reorder the bug attachments... :P
14:35 chris_n      jcamins: I've attached the fix to 7977
14:32 jcamins      You can either attach a follow-up, which I'll squash into the test patch, or replace the test patch.
14:31 chris_n      fixing now
14:26 jcamins      I have the same thing happening, now that I've updated Test::Simple.
14:24 chris_n      first pass fails a test while an immediate second pass passes
14:24 chris_n      I'll need to check on that one
14:24 pastebot     "chris_n" at 63.162.197.228 pasted "Test weirdness" (47 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/391
14:23 * chris_n    does find an anomaly
14:23 jcamins      Yup. That fixed it.
14:23 jcamins      I will try installing a new version.
14:22 jcamins      I have an old version of Test::More, probably.
14:21 chris_n      my new "check all" button on the framework/sample data page makes installing test data a breeze
14:19 chris_n      it runs fine here... I'll do a fresh install and check again
14:19 jcamins      Nope.
14:17 jcamins      Something to do with DBI, I think.
14:17 pastebot     "jcamins" at 24.193.130.86 pasted "chris_n: error from unit test" (21 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/390
14:16 chris_n      ?
14:14 jcamins      subtest doesn't work.
14:14 chris_n      but can be very useful in other cases as well
14:14 chris_n      in this case it averts other date-related failures
14:13 * chris_n    wrestles webinstaller into submission
14:13 jcamins      Ah.
14:13 chris_n      if you don't have it those tests will be skipped
14:12 chris_n      in order to allow regexps in testing deep data structures
14:11 jcamins      chris_n: why do we need Test::Deep?
14:10 jcamins      Oh, it's not necessary.
14:10 * oleonard   offers jcamins a torch
14:09 jcamins      How do you destroy mysql statement handles?
14:08 jcamins      Okay, destructive is the way to go.
14:08 jcamins      Oh, but there could be multiple quotes with a timestamp of today.
14:05 * chris_n    cheers jcamins on
14:05 jcamins      That's a better idea.
14:05 jcamins      Or we could even stash the date.
14:05 jcamins      This is slightly more destructive, but if you're running unit tests on an active installation, you clearly don't mind.
14:05 jcamins      chris_n: not really. We do that with a lot of the other tests already.
14:04 jcamins      I will try this idea. Hold on.
14:03 * chris_n    likes *always* passing tests
14:03 kf           oleonard: yes, there seems to be a problem - magnuse reported that too :( I had not much time to test recently
14:03 chris_n      however, we can do that if that is what folks feel needs to be done
14:03 chris_n      probably, but isn't munging the sample data to ensure the test passes akin to cheating the test?
14:02 oleonard     "Use of uninitialized value $key in hash element at /usr/share/perl5/Locale/PO.pm line 472, <IN> line 89328."
14:02 jcamins      chris_n: couldn't you set any quotes with a timestamp of today to a timestamp of 0 for the tests?
14:02 chris_n      the problem stems from the sample data having a timestamp of 0
14:02 oleonard     kf: I just noticed I got 100s of lines of errors when I ran the translation script
14:01 jcamins      chris_n: oh, no way to specify the date.
14:00 asaurat      kf: ok you're welcome =)
14:00 chris_n      jcamins: the real problem there is that tomorrow never gets here :-)
13:59 kf           asaurat: bug is confirmed :) but thank you! asaurat++
13:59 chris_n      lol
13:59 chris_n      but I'm very open to other options
13:59 jcamins      chris_n: what about testing tomorrow?
13:59 kf           and thx again :) oleonard++
13:59 kf           8062
13:59 chris_n      afaict
13:59 chris_n      sadly there is no other way to check the choose by date aspect
13:59 jcamins      I'll add a SKIP to this test for sign off.
13:58 oleonard     I can update it. Which number?
13:58 jcamins      I'll sign off anyway.
13:58 jcamins      Eh.
13:58 jcamins      chris_n: but all the tests other than this one work when I'm signing off.
13:58 kf           or will you?
13:58 kf           oleonard: you tested on master? then I will update the bug accordingly - which language? :)
13:58 chris_n      which is why they are optional :-)
13:58 chris_n      jcamins: sorry, but that's the nature of the beast... anything other than pure sample data will break db_dependent tests
13:58 kf           but yes, that's what I expected
13:58 kf           eew
13:57 oleonard     No subject, no message body
13:57 oleonard     No, I just now remembered my translation process finished
13:57 kf           oleonard++
13:57 jcamins      chris_n: I don't like that viewing the OPAC causes the tests to break.
13:57 kf           did I miss your message?
13:57 * chris_n    goes back to hammering webinstaller
13:57 kf           oleonard: oh! thx!
13:57 kf           I could only confirm up to 3.6.4
13:57 oleonard     kf: Confirmed in master
13:57 asaurat      ok
13:57 kf           checking it's broken in master too
13:56 asaurat      kf: ah, but there is no patch, what do you need ?
13:56 oleonard     Melding sendt!
13:56 jcamins      Yes, I have an installation which is just the sample data.
13:56 chris_n      jcamins: db_dependent tests are only designed to pass on pure sample data
13:56 kf           asaurat: it needs a working translation and mail working :)
13:56 jcamins      chris_n: oh, you meant sample data in general.
13:55 asaurat      kf: ok
13:55 chris_n      all db_dependent tests will fail once the sample data is changed
13:55 jcamins      I run the unit tests every time I test anything.
13:55 * chris_n    also figured that unit tests are designed to be run in conjunction w/the installer
13:55 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8062 critical, P5 - low, ---, frederic, NEW , Cart email broken for non english templates
13:55 kf           asaurat: can you help me with soomething? I am looking for someone to test bug 8062 on master
13:55 jcamins      *that's not so good.
13:54 jcamins      chris_n: tjat
13:54 chris_n      there's just no way around it
13:54 jcamins      chris_n: oh, oops.
13:54 kf           oh
13:54 chris_n      once the timestamp fields are updated in the sample data, the test will fail on that field
13:54 chris_n      jcamins: make sure you run them on a very fresh install... as in one you have not accessed opac in yet
13:53 jcamins      chris_n: running the unit tests now.
13:50 chris_n      oleonard: all unicorns revert to mice after midnight
13:50 asaurat      and eventually flew on a flying poney like everyday -_-
13:50 kf           lol
13:49 asaurat      but then I woke up
13:49 asaurat      I did!
13:49 chris_n      lol
13:48 oleonard     I don't know chris_n, I didn't fly to work today on a unicorn :P
13:48 jcamins      All looks good to me.
13:48 chris_n      so I think that's it :)
13:47 chris_n      I've addressed most all of owen's points
13:47 chris_n      coherent instructions/help
13:47 chris_n      basic functionality
13:47 chris_n      jcamins: not that I can think of
13:46 jcamins      Is there anything additional I should be checking?
13:46 jcamins      chris_n: 7977 looks good to me.
13:39 chris_n      some sort of weird caching foo going on here which makes it hard to debug
13:38 kf           chris_n: wizzyrea has a wiki page with ideas :)
13:38 jcamins      chris_n++
13:38 jcamins      Woohoo!
13:38 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7977 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Needs Signoff , Add a "Quote-of-the-day" feature to the OPAC homepage
13:38 kf           bug 7977
13:38 * chris_n    threatens webinstaller with a re-write
13:38 jcamins      :D
13:38 jcamins      $ git qa 7977
13:27 chris_n      ctl-f5 rather
13:27 * chris_n    wonders why the webinstaller templates have the privilege of ignoring shift-F5
13:26 * libsysguy  is at work and is still doing homework
13:25 * kf         is at work, so can't do accounting now
13:25 kf           oleonard: you have those too? :)
13:25 jcamins      Hehe.
13:25 oleonard     No problem. I'm avoiding my Accounting homework.
13:24 kf           thx a lot!
13:24 kf           jcamins++ oleonard++ :)
13:23 kf           there are too - it's not easy! :)
13:23 oleonard     I figured it had an N in it anyway ;)
13:23 kf           it would be great if you could check
13:23 kf           nb-NO :)
13:23 * oleonard   realizes his fr-FR templates might be out of date
13:22 oleonard     nn-NO?
13:21 kf           hm.
13:20 kf           is the french po file complete? is it the same for norwegian?
13:19 kf           oleonard: it used to be translatable
13:19 oleonard     It's an unfortunate omission
13:18 kf           I think something in the trnaslations process is breaking it... not the po files, but something else
13:18 kf           oleonard: well, that's an explanation
13:17 oleonard     Oh, because the template isn't translated :P
13:16 kf           oh weird!
13:16 oleonard     Yes, although it's not in French :|
13:16 kf           and the mail looks right?
13:16 oleonard     So anyway, I was able to send a cart from the French templates
13:16 Guest1047    exim?
13:15 * chris_n    runs out of ideas
13:15 wahanui      chris_n: I forgot email
13:15 chris_n      forget email
13:15 wahanui      email is postfix
13:15 chris_n      email?
13:15 chris_n      email is postfix
13:14 chris_n      email?
13:08 oleonard     Oh, I guess the short answer is "install postfix"
13:07 kf           oleonard: I don't know one :(
13:04 druthb       I'm headin' out for a hike back to the hotel, then dinner.   See y'all soonly.
13:04 oleonard     Is there an Idiot's Guide to getting Ubuntu set up to send emails?
13:03 oleonard     I was testing the cart and discovered that I don't have email sending working in my relatively new VM
12:59 jcamins      chris_n: agreed.
12:55 * chris_n    thinks the webinstaller interface is a nightmare on the backside
12:55 jcamins      I will see if e-mail works for me.
12:55 chris_n      :)
12:54 kf           chris_n++ for trying and learning about translations :)
12:54 * chris_n    's sandbox is generally in a state of disarray atm
12:54 jcamins      Oh.
12:54 chris_n      sorry :-(
12:54 kf           chris_n has an email problem - so I am searching for another volunteer :)
12:54 jcamins      kf: chris_n is working on that. :)
12:53 kf           jcamins: and if you could test the cart it woudl be great :) or someone else on master
12:50 kf           what I did needs to be rewritten- and I lost the script I had ... so perhaps we should file a bug
12:50 kf           as I said
12:50 kf           yeah
12:50 jcamins      True.
12:50 jcamins      Might as well make it easier, right?
12:49 jcamins      If someone wants to use one of those languages, before the po file gets included in a release, they *have* to download it.
12:48 kf           and you might not want that
12:48 kf           because it will overwrite the 'released' po files
12:48 kf           yeah, I only say you have to be cautious
12:47 jcamins      kf: the reason I would accept it for 3.6.x is that there are some languages which are only just starting to get translated.
12:46 kf           it will work most of the time, but it can happen that you end up with untranslated things
12:46 kf              4
12:46 kf           so say you are running a 3.6.3 - you can't use the file for 3.6.
12:45 kf           the po files on pootle get updated constantly
12:45 kf           jcamins: another problem is, that the po files outdate
12:45 kf           but it shoudl not be too hard to write another script?
12:45 kf           and I have no idea where it is currently... which is also annoying
12:44 kf           not really submittable :)
12:44 jcamins      kf++ # for sharing this script
12:44 kf           with hardcoded paths and all
12:44 kf           honestly it was the first bash script I ever wrote
12:44 jcamins      Did you file a bug and submit it?
12:44 kf           only no idea on which vm it lives currently..
12:44 jcamins      I would accept a script like that into 3.6.x.
12:44 kf           I wrote a batch script for that
12:44 kf           oh
12:43 chris_n      hi gmcharlt
12:43 jcamins      A script for fetching updated po files from pootle.
12:43 kf           hm?
12:43 jcamins      kf: you know what we need?
12:43 * kyleh      wonders why [% USE KohaDates %] isn't just placed in a universal include file, rather than each template individually.
12:42 kf           the file from pootle shoudl work fine, but in master it's broken until the next big release *sigh*
12:42 kf           but my own fault
12:42 kf           it annoys me endlessly
12:42 kf           I missed fredericd's deadline by a few hours :(
12:42 chris_n      nb-NO appears to work fine at this point
12:42 kf           fatal errors in po files...
12:42 chris_n      it appears that attempting to install de-DE will cause early-morning distress :)
12:41 * kf         is worried now
12:41 chris_n      fixed
12:40 gmcharlt     good morning
12:40 chris_n      its really broke now
12:40 chris_n      ouch
12:39 jcamins      Translation works fine on 3.6-testing.
12:39 jcamins      kf: I'm testing 8061.
12:38 kf           fr-FR should probably work too
12:38 kf           evil bug :(
12:38 kf           jcamins: thx!
12:38 jcamins      I'm on 3.6-testing. I'll let you know how it goes.
12:38 kf           say perl translate install nb-NO
12:38 jcamins      chris_n: that's bad.
12:37 druthb       the 3.8/master Arabic file is *thoroughly* broken.  Don't know about other langs.
12:37 chris_n      ./translate install de-DE
12:37 kf           is only german not working?
12:37 kf           hmm
12:37 chris_n      yes
12:37 kf           ?
12:37 kf           chris_n: did you executei t in the misc/translator directory
12:37 * chris_n    is running master
12:37 chris_n      sadly that does not work
12:37 jcamins      chris_n: for 3.2, it's just perl translate install ar-Arab
12:37 jcamins      chris_n: you're looking at the instructions for 3.0.6.
12:37 kf           any other questions? and thx everyone who is trying to confirm my bug against master!
12:36 * kf         has finished reading back now :)
12:36 kf           there is a zip file download link on the review tab
12:36 kf           ah right
12:36 jcamins      chris_n: yeah, scroll up.
12:36 kf           chris_n: perhaps don't try de-DE:( po files are borked in master
12:36 jcamins      chris_n: uhhh... I'm 75% sure that's wrong.
12:35 jcamins      kf: druthb knew how to download a new po file. :)
12:35 chris_n      http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Installation_of_additional_languages_for_OPAC_and_INTRANET_staff_client#Adding_additional_languages_after_installing_Koha_on_your_server
12:35 chris_n      ahh
12:35 kf           jcamins: here, kinda
12:35 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8061 major, P5 - low, ---, ruth, Needs Signoff , Koha's templates do not cope well with right-to-left languages
12:35 jcamins      You did the translate install step?
12:34 jcamins      chris_n: no, bug 8061.
12:34 chris_n      when running webinstaller
12:34 chris_n      Template process failed: file error - /home/cnighswonger/Repositories/koha.3.2.labels/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/de-DE/modules/installer/step1.tt
12:34 chris_n      jcamins: there must be something missing...
12:33 oleonard     Any time mib_yh2146
12:33 mib_yh2146   Thanks oleonard
12:33 mib_yh2146   ah, got it then should better have koha real one
12:32 oleonard     Liblime Koha is a fork which is only supported by one company
12:32 oleonard     Koha is the real open source project with 100s of contributors
12:32 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8062 critical, P5 - low, ---, frederic, NEW , Cart email broken for non english templates
12:32 chris_n      jcamins: are you testing bug 8062 also?
12:32 mib_yh2146   i am kinda newbee  to it , what's diff b/w two ?
12:32 jcamins      chris_n: in just a moment I'll run into the same problem you have, so we'll troubleshoot it together. :)
12:31 jcamins      +1
12:31 chris_n      +1
12:31 oleonard     mib_yh2146: I suggest you drop Liblime Koha and get real Koha http://www.koha-community.org/
12:31 oleonard     Sorry mib_yh2146 this channel is for talking about Koha, not Liblime Koha
12:31 chris_n      when translate says "Koha directories hierarchy for de-DE must be created first" what have I failed to do?
12:30 mib_yh2146   hello all , i am try to install  liblime_koha-4.08.23 on fedora 14
12:26 oleonard     Hi everyone
12:26 jcamins      kf: around?
12:26 * chris_n    greets oleonard
11:54 huginn       chris_n: The operation succeeded.
11:54 chris_n      @later tell sekjal arghhh
10:57 Amit_Gupta   heya kf
10:54 kf           someone around who can test something on current master for me? needs working email!
10:00 wahanui      fredericd is, like, translation manager for 3.8
10:00 Amit_Gupta   heya fredericd
10:00 samuel       only one, i can send you my conf by email, if you want
09:59 fredericd    samuel: strange. Don't you have 2 Koha DB, and your koha-conf.xml file pointing to the wrong DB?
09:56 samuel       yes
09:55 fredericd    even in language_descriptions?
09:53 samuel       yes
09:51 kf           you shoudl always have the tables, as they are in kohastructure, but you might not have the correct sample data
09:51 kf           samuel: do they have content?
09:49 samuel       fredericd: i've the following tables: language_descriptions                  | | language_rfc4646_to_iso639             | | language_script_bidi                   | | language_script_mapping                | | language_subtag_registry
09:48 kf           perhaps you didn't check the language/bidi support when running through the web installer?
09:48 kf           oh
09:47 fredericd    samuel: In you MySQL DB, do you have language_* tables?
09:46 kf           because all your errors seem language related
09:46 kf           samuel: was wondering if it's something with the language chooser - installed languages vs. languages in the system preference and so on
09:45 wahanui      which language is "nb" ?
09:45 samuel       kf: which language?
09:42 kf           samuel: perhaps thelanguage chooser acting up again? :(
09:42 druthb       :)
09:42 Oak          hello druthb :) electricity... here comes and goes
09:41 druthb       hi, Oak. :)
09:33 samuel       3.07.00.049
09:32 samuel       me too, don't worry
09:30 kf           which version are you looking at?
09:30 kf           not sure what's going wrong there
09:30 kf           at work
09:30 kf           sorry samuel
08:57 samuel       'koha.language_descriptions' doesn't exist at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Languages.pm line 345
08:56 samuel       after "'koha.systempreferences' doesn't exist at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 542."
08:56 samuel       when i look at the log, it's always the same error "'koha.language_descriptions' doesn't exist at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Languages.pm line 339."
08:55 samuel       kf: yes, without any problems
08:55 kf           samuel: have you run the web installer?
08:45 samuel       i logout, i come back in 5 minutes
08:43 mib_d83t3c   Thanks, it's a dev installation.
08:42 samuel       for me, it's a package, as we are in a period of test. When  i look at the log , i see ": Table 'koha.systempreferences' doesn't exist ......"
08:41 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8061 major, P5 - low, ---, ruth, NEW , Koha's templates do not cope well with right-to-left languages
08:41 druthb       gonna be attaching my first patch on Bug 8061 momentarily.  :D
08:38 kf           mib_d83t3c: check the release notes for guidance - what kind of installation did you do? (packages, dev, standard?)
08:37 samuel       i'll check it
08:37 samuel       yes, it's in /var/logs/koha/koha-error.log
08:35 mimi         thanks, let me check
08:35 kf           they are probably stored in /var/logs/...
08:34 kf           you have to access them on your server and can't do it from within Koha
08:34 kf           mimi: the error logs are text files - it depends a bit on your setup where they are
08:30 mib_d83t3c   i'm looking for an upgrade guide from 3.6 to 3.8 ?
08:30 samuel       it's an import by z39.50
08:30 mimi         its suggesting i check the error on the logs. where can i view them?
08:29 mimi         am unable to create a patron cards using the patron card creator
08:29 slef         samuel: most likely a corrupt record. Where did the details come from?
08:25 samuel       something strange for me this morning: when i want to add  a book, i've the following error "Can't call method "subfield" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 2919."
08:24 samuel       hello everybody!
08:18 mimi         hi, am trying to create cards using card creator and in the batch creation this is the error am getting(WARNING: The database returned an error while saving batch 0. Please have your system administrator check the error log for details.) where can i access this log
08:06 druthb       Amman, Jordan.  :D
08:05 hdl          druthb: really where are you ?
08:05 druthb       it's after 11 AM here, hdl.  :)  I'm not in my usual timezone.
08:04 hdl          druthb: up early....
08:03 druthb       o/
07:35 wahanui      what's up, reiveune
07:35 reiveune     hello
07:27 Oak          :)
07:27 kf           thx Oak :)
07:27 Oak          welcome back kf
07:26 kf           hi matts
07:26 kf           hm only 340 mails after 3 days vacation..
07:26 matts        hello #koha !
07:23 kf           hi paul_p and hi #koha
07:22 paul_p       hello #koha
07:01 Amit_Gupta   heya wahanui, asaurat
07:01 wahanui      niihau, asaurat
07:01 asaurat      hi
06:52 cait         brb
06:50 wahanui      niihau, julian_m
06:50 julian_m     salut
06:46 cait         magnuse: yes
06:40 Oak          magnuse
06:40 magnuse      Oak
06:35 Oak          Ahoy me hearties
06:30 magnuse      cait: back to work today?
06:29 magnuse      bonjour cait and alex_a
06:28 alex_a       hi cait
06:27 cait         hi alex_a
06:18 alex_a       bonjour koha
06:18 cait         morning all
06:18 cait         :)
06:14 magnuse      hehe crazy people :-)
06:13 wahanui      I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS!
06:13 bag          rangi?
06:13 magnuse      yay
06:13 bag          or
06:13 wahanui      DeM KraZy NutZ!!
06:13 bag          mtj?
06:13 bag          my favorite is still mtj?
06:13 magnuse      :-)
06:13 bag          YAY
06:13 wahanui      I LIKE BASEBALL
06:13 bag          hmm.. bag?
06:12 magnuse      hiya bag
06:12 wahanui      it has been said that magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza.
06:12 bag          heya magnuse
06:10 magnuse      kia ora #koha!
04:12 ronald       hi koha I tried restoring the sql file from koha 3.4 to koha 3.6 but I got this error ' ERROR 1005 (HY000) at line 3282: Can't create table 'koha_siche.letter' (errno: 150) ' . Anybody knows what it is?
03:28 Amit_Gupta   heya bag
02:33 rangi        :)
02:29 libsysguy    actually I shouldn't say that…im really not that worried heh
02:29 libsysguy    thanks, I'll need it
02:28 rangi        ahh good luck
02:28 libsysguy    one tomorrow and one friday
02:28 libsysguy    this week, had my first one today
02:28 rangi        oh are finals soon?
02:28 libsysguy    this also makes for good finals studying music fwiw
02:25 rangi        :)
02:25 libsysguy    is this for my upcoming project
02:24 rangi        libsysguy: http://grooveshark.com/#!/playlist/Koha+Hacking/8190140
02:24 rangi        jcamins_away: the 690 thing worked perfectly thanks
02:22 libsysguy    makes sense
02:22 rangi        currently the plugin uses format_date .. but it means we only have to do it in one place
02:21 libsysguy    I knew I had been seeing format_date less and less but I didn't know what the alternative was
02:19 rangi        and the date formatted in the teemplate
02:19 libsysguy    rangi++
02:19 rangi        $_->{datereviewed} = format_date($_->{datereviewed}); that line should be fixed
02:18 rangi        http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines#Displaying_dates
02:18 rangi        you can fail it and point at
02:17 * libsysguy  apologizes
02:17 rangi        it shouldnt do that
02:17 rangi        oh yeah
02:17 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8035 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Signed Off , bibs with comments show an error in opac
02:17 libsysguy    bug 8035
02:17 wahanui      which patch are we talking about?
02:17 rangi        which patch?
02:16 libsysguy    dang it now i feel the need to go back and fail that patch
02:16 libsysguy    ahh
02:12 rangi        that currently uses format_date ... so when we have a replacement, it will need to use that
02:11 jcamins      libsysguy: use the T::T filter for formatting dates.
01:57 rangi        :)
01:57 libsysguy    challenge accepted :p
01:57 libsysguy    so Dates needs created
01:56 rangi        *nod*
01:56 libsysguy    ok, I saw a DateUtils in there but it said in the doc that it was basically just there to hold things in place during the transition
01:56 rangi        but thats just a guess
01:56 rangi        probably Koha::Dates::format_date() and using hte datetime stuff
01:54 libsysguy    ok cool
01:54 rangi        afaik nothing yet
01:53 libsysguy    i didn't know if there was already something in place or not
01:53 libsysguy    ok
01:53 rangi        must admit havent thought about it much
01:53 libsysguy    do you know the correct course of action for replacing the format_date() function
01:53 rangi        yep thats the plan
01:52 libsysguy    so I know we are trying to phase out C4::Dates right?
01:52 rangi        yup
01:52 libsysguy    rangi around?
01:16 libsysguy    later jcamins
01:15 jcamins      Shari's home, so I think I'll go rest on my laurels having successfully updated 3.6.x.
01:14 chris_n      huginn++
01:06 libsysguy    man huginn must be really tired
01:05 rangi        heh
01:05 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7924 major, P1 - high, ---, magnus, Signed Off , Fix handling of command line arguments in koha-remove
01:05 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8020 normal, P4, ---, robin, Pushed to Stable , Prepare debian packages for 3.8 release
01:05 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7831 minor, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , In neworderempty budget drop down budgets should appear in a rational order
01:05 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7940 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Placing a hold on a single item from the staff cart causes errors
01:05 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7838 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Add sort-string-utf.chr for Ukrainian and Russian
01:05 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7935 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, RESOLVED FIXED, Introduce sys pref to control 'browse results' in OPAC
01:05 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7893 critical, P1 - high, ---, mjr, Pushed to Master , Missing build-dependency on libdatetime-format-dateparse-perl and libreadonly-perl
01:05 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6701 normal, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , language on timeout system preference is wrong
01:05 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7758 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Koha allowing LOST items to check out without alert
01:05 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7445 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Clicking on a tag gives "Language ... does not exist"
01:05 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7143 enhancement, P3, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , Bug for tracking changes to the about page
01:05 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7482 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , overdues report downloads without names
01:05 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7876 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Add ids to divs and spans with ids in opac-user.tt
01:04 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7858 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Missing packages from install_misc/ubuntu.packages
01:04 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7888 minor, P4, ---, wizzyrea, Pushed to Master , Permission for "change password" button in circ toolbar should be "borrowers" instead of "staffaccess"
01:04 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7866 minor, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Master , Rank not used in Z39.50 search page
01:04 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1662 normal, P3, ---, katrin.fischer, RESOLVED FIXED, Is there a difference between Full and Simplified for Serials History
01:04 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6434 normal, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Many changes for Ukrainian and Russian sql-tables
01:04 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7617 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Authority search results should optionally be sorted by system order
01:04 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7537 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, RESOLVED FIXED, Implement TraceCompleteSubfields, TraceSubjectSubdivisions and UseICU for NORMARC XSLT
01:04 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7436 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Set itemtypes.rentalcharge = 0 in sample data for nb-NO and de-DE
01:04 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4819 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Add ID attribute to certain areas of OPAC so jquery can be used to hide them
01:04 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7485 critical, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Cannot edit barcode on Fast Add
01:04 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7695 normal, P5 - low, ---, frederic, RESOLVED FIXED, Boolean operator AND in XSLT gets translated
01:04 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7837 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , nb-NO z3950servers.sql misses column names
01:04 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7727 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, RESOLVED FIXED, NORMARC XSLT OPAC detail view shows double tabs
01:04 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7761 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gaetan.boisson, Pushed to Master , cleaning up empty declarations from staff-global.css
01:04 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7702 minor, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Test for C4::Heading::MARC21 should only run under MARC21
01:04 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7780 normal, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , fix translator tool verbosity
01:04 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7760 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Add ids and classes to every staff page to help with customizaton
01:04 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7590 normal, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Cataloging authorities search result page is broken
01:04 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5841 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Routing slip not displaying publication date
01:04 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6125 normal, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Master , Plugin for date acquired does not work on ACQ framework
01:04 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5482 normal, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Master , Translation problem in guided reports - Item field names
01:04 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5180 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Autocomplete broken on overdues report
01:04 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Update 3.6.x release notes template
01:04 jenkins_koha * magnus: Bug 7924 - Fix handling of command line arguments in koha-remove
01:04 jenkins_koha * robin: Bug 8020 [3.8.x/MASTER] - update changelogs to get to 3.8
01:04 jenkins_koha * colin.campbell: Bug 7831 : Sort budgets for selection in new order
01:04 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 7940 - Placing a hold on a single item from the staff cart causes errors
01:04 jenkins_koha * serhijdubyk: Bug 7838 - Add sort-string-utf.chr for Ukrainian and Russian
01:04 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Updating euskara and french translation teams
01:04 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 7935 follow-up: Update DBRev
01:04 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7738 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, RESOLVED FIXED, "Display more constraints" in subfield configuraton is not properly translatable
01:04 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7935: Introduce sys pref to control 'browse results' in OPAC
01:04 jenkins_koha * robin: Bug 7893 - add package dependencies
01:04 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7746 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, RESOLVED FIXED, In staff 'No public lists.' is not translatable
01:04 jenkins_koha * dpavlin: Bug 6701 - login timeout is in seconds
01:04 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 7758 - Koha allowing LOST items to check out without alert
01:04 jenkins_koha * magnus: Bug 7445 - Clicking on a tag gives "Language ... does not exist"
01:04 jenkins_koha * tajoli: Bug 7143: Italian translation teams
01:04 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7482: overdues report downloads without names
01:04 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 7876 - Add ids to divs and spans with ids in opac-user.tt
01:04 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7858 - Missing packages from install_misc/ubuntu.packages
01:04 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7753 minor, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Master , when displaying serials, library name should be showed and not code
01:04 jenkins_koha * wizzyrea: Bug 7888 - Permission for "change password" button in circ toolbar should be "borrowers" instead of "staffaccess"
01:04 jenkins_koha * adrien.saurat: Bug 7866: z39.50 search list ordered by rank
01:04 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7700 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Cart's more details view shows identity numbers
01:04 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 1662: Is there a difference between Full and Simplified for Serials History
01:04 jenkins_koha * serhijdubyk: Bug 6434 - Ukrainian and Russian MARC sql-tables
01:04 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 7617: Sort authority results by authid
01:04 jenkins_koha * magnus: Bug 7537 - Implement TraceCompleteSubfields, TraceSubjectSubdivisions and UseICU for NORMARC XSLT
01:04 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7581 major, P3, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Holds not working in OPAC in singlebranchmode
01:04 jenkins_koha * magnus: Bug 7436 - Set itemtypes.rentalcharge = 0 in sample data for nb-NO and de-DE
01:04 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 4819: Add ids to OPAC detail page
01:04 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 7485 - Cannot edit barcode on Fast Add
01:04 jenkins_koha * magnus: Bug 7695 - Change boolean operator from "and" to "AND"
01:04 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7597 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , fines not recording the right info in the stats table
01:04 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7092 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Complete-subfield searches TraceCompleteSubfields syspref not working correctly
01:04 jenkins_koha * magnus: Bug 7837 - nb-NO z3950servers.sql misses column names
01:04 jenkins_koha * magnus: Bug 7727 - NORMARC XSLT OPAC detail view shows double tabs
01:04 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7760: More ids and classes for the staff interface
01:04 jenkins_koha * gaetan.boisson: Bug 7761 - cleaning up empty declarations from staff-global.css
01:03 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7734 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, RESOLVED FIXED, NO_LIBRARY_SET should be translatable
01:03 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7749 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, RESOLVED FIXED, Not all OKs on the start page are translatable
01:03 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 7702: [SIGNED-OFF] MARC21 heading tests should not run under UNIMARC
01:03 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 7780: make silent/verbose flag for translation installing
01:03 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5657 normal, P3, ---, januszop, Pushed to Master , biblio records update fails when updating multiple authorities linked with the same biblio
01:03 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7760 - Add ids and classes to every staff page to help with customization (reports, ...)
01:03 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7760 - Add ids and classes to every staff page to help with customization (patroncard, labels)
01:03 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7724 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Tests requiring Zebra should be skipped if Zebra isn't set up
01:03 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4976 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Status of item returned with process_koc.pl is empty in Intranet
01:03 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7760 - Add ids and classes to every staff page to help with customization (tools)
01:03 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7760: Add ids and classes to every staff page to help with customization (serials)
01:03 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7670 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , make required fields red in additem.pl
01:03 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7656 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, Pushed to Master , "undefined" pop-up message when putting hold on reference item
01:03 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7760 - Add ids and classes to every staff page to help with customization (patrons)
01:03 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7760 - Add ids and classes to every staff page to help with customizaton (lists, suggestion, z39.50)
01:03 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7760 - Add ids and classes to every staff page to help with customizaton (circulation)
01:03 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7760 - Add ids and classes to every staff page to help with customizaton (cataloguing)
01:03 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7618 minor, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , HTML special characters break result table and incorrectly show SQL in Run This Report
01:03 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7760 - Add ids and classes to every staff page to help with customizaton (catalog)
01:03 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7760: Add ids and classes to every staff page to help with customizaton (batch, error)
01:03 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7644 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Invalid markup in staff client language chooser
01:03 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7760: Add ids and classes to every staff page to help with customizaton (cart)
01:03 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7760: Add unique ids and a module class to all administration pages
01:03 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7760: Add unique ids and a module class to all authorities pages
01:03 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7760: Add unique ids and a module class to all acquisitions pages
01:03 jenkins_koha * f.demians: SIGNED-OFF Bug 7590 Cataloging authorities search result page is broken
01:03 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 5841: Routing slip not displaying publication date
01:03 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5749 normal, P4, ---, stephane.delaune, Pushed to Master , The display of borrower adresses composed of streetnumber, streettype and address is broken
01:03 jenkins_koha * adrien.saurat: Bug 6125: repairs dateaccessioned plugin
01:03 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 5482 [Follow up] Translation problem in guided reports - Item field names
01:03 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7699 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Restricted until datepicker broken
01:03 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 5482: Update colums.def file
01:03 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 5482 - Translation problem in guided reports - Item field names
01:03 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7609 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Improving links to find analytics and volumes when using UseControlnumber
01:03 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 5180: FIX autocomplete on overdues report
01:03 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7738: "Display more constraints' in subfield configuraiton is not properly translatable
01:03 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3216 normal, P2, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , UNIMARC author facets
01:03 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7746: "No Public Lists." not translatable.
01:03 jenkins_koha * adrien.saurat: Bug 7753: serials-home displays library name instead of code
01:03 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7700: Cart's more details view shows identity numbers
01:03 jenkins_koha * maxime.pelletier: Bug 7581: Singlebranchmode was always 0 causing the branch to be null and the reservations in the OPAC not to work in singlebranchmode.
01:03 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 7597 - Part 5 - Remove my from $branch, which was masking previous declaration
01:03 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 7597 - Part 4 - Change C4::Acounts::WriteOff to WriteOffFee
01:03 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7665 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Bibs with no ISBN's show broken images for covers when using Syndetics cover images.
01:03 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 7597 - Part 3 - fines not recording the right info in the stats table
01:03 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 7597 - Part 2 - move sub writeoff to C4::Accounts
01:03 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7636 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , error when trying to email cart when opacuserlogin set to don't allow
01:03 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 7597 - Part 1 - fines not recording the right info in the stats table
01:03 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 7092 follow-up: Update DBRev
01:03 jenkins_koha * magnus: Bug 7092 - Complete-subfield searches TraceCompleteSubfields syspref not working correctly
01:03 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7734: NO_LIBRARY_SET should be translatable
01:03 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7645 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , System preferences editor save button obscured by language chooser
01:03 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7749: Not all OKs on the start page are translatable
01:03 jenkins_koha * januszop: Bug 5657: Changes made to sub merge to eliminate errors occuring when updating bibio records in batch (after updating multiple authority records)
01:03 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7631 critical, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Self checkout renewal fails because of reference to non-existent subroutine in sco-main.pl
01:03 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: welcome gaetan, you're 179th !
01:03 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 7724: Skip Linker test if Zebra isn't set up
01:03 jcamins      Success!
01:03 jenkins_koha * srdjan: bug_7140: Added item description to complement icon to search result and biblio detail pages
01:03 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 4976 - Status of item returned with process_koc.pl is empty in Intranet
01:03 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7670 - make required fields red
01:03 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 7656 - "undefined" pop-up message when putting hold on reference item
01:03 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: welcome David Cook, you're 178th
01:03 jenkins_koha * dcook: Bug 7618 Escape HTML special characters for SQL displayed above results in Report module
01:03 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6488 critical, P2, ---, srdjan, RESOLVED FIXED, opachiddenitems not working in master
01:03 jenkins_koha * m.de.rooy: 7368 Typo in cart_to_shelf
01:03 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7644 - Invalid markup in staff client language chooser
01:03 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7629 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Update sco.css to include CSS Gradients and prevent error upon missing background image file.
01:03 jcamins      Yay!
01:03 jenkins_koha * stephane.delaune: Bug 5749 Fix borrower address display in intranet
01:03 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 7699: Restricted until datepicker broken
01:03 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7609: Improving links to find analytics and volumes when using UseControlnumber (MARC21)
01:03 jenkins_koha * f.demians: Bug 3216: UNIMARC author facets
01:03 jenkins_koha * wizzyrea: Bug 7665 - Bibs with no ISBN's show broken images for covers when using Syndetics cover images
01:03 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7271 normal, P3, ---, wizzyrea, Pushed to Master , Revert getitems default sort to homebranch instead of holding branch
01:03 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7493 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Deleting a record with comments breaks "Recent Comments"
01:03 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7636 - error when trying to email cart when opacuserlogin set to don't allow
01:03 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7645 - System preferences editor save button obscured by language chooser
01:03 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7631 - Self checkout renewal fails because of reference to non-existent subroutine in sco-main.pl
01:03 jenkins_koha * srdjan: Bug 6488: Display OPAC search result count conditional to OpacHiddenItems syspref
01:03 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7629 - Update sco.css to include CSS Gradients and prevent error upon missing background image file
01:03 jenkins_koha * wizzyrea: Bug 7271 - change sort in items.pm to sort by home library instead of holding branch
01:03 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Authority matching algorithm improvements
01:03 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 7493 follow-up: Update DBRev
01:02 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7493 [REVISED] Deleting a record with comments breaks "Recent Comments"
01:02 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 7284 follow-up: Update DBRev
01:02 jenkins_koha * mjr: bug 7284: fix package build problem, move BEGIN into new
01:02 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 7284: Authority matching improvements
01:02 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.6.x build #45: SUCCESS in 43 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.6.x/45/
00:37 jcamins      chris_n: thanks!
00:36 chris_n      jcamins: pushed
00:35 chris_n      jcamins: thanks
00:34 chris_n      'evening
00:26 jcamins      Interesting.
00:25 rangi        http://theory.github.com/mytap/ <-- not for this purpose but interesting nonetheless
00:25 jcamins      i.e. after running through the install, I have a database.
00:24 rangi        mytap
00:24 jcamins      I want to test that the installer works.
00:24 jcamins      But I'm not trying to set up a system that is 100% functional.
00:24 rangi        *nod*
00:24 jcamins      The problem with my release test script is that it requires MySQL to be configured.
00:23 rangi        you can use it where it makes sense, and ignore it where it doesnt
00:23 rangi        like a lot of ORM
00:23 rangi        its not an all or nothing thing
00:23 rangi        the nice thing with DBIx::Class is
00:22 rangi        Test::DBIx::Class
00:22 jcamins      That was my thought.
00:22 jcamins      Mwahahahahaha! (that was an evil laugh)
00:22 rangi        you could do some nice TAP type testing too, without a real db
00:21 rangi        theoretically yes
00:21 jcamins      rangi: if we used DBIx::Class, could we theoretically install Koha using sqlite?
00:20 jenkins_koha Use '!jenkins help' to get help!
00:20 jenkins_koha jcamins did you mean me? Unknown command 'if'
00:20 jcamins      jenkins_koha: if 3.6.x does not build successfully, I shall be very put out.
00:19 jenkins_koha Starting build #45 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
00:13 rangi        thanks
00:13 jcamins      I may have already told you that.
00:13 jcamins      rangi: there are scripts you might find useful in my github repository: https://github.com/jcamins/release-tools
00:11 huginn       jcamins: The operation succeeded.
00:11 jcamins      @later tell chris_n I pushed an updated version of the get_bugs.pl script to my Github repo.
00:10 jcamins      Yes.
00:09 jcamins      Maybe.
00:09 jcamins      3.6.x has been updated.