IRC log for #koha, 2012-04-21

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03:52 dgl-library Hi #koha
04:06 dgl-library @marc 300
04:06 huginn dgl-library: A physical description of the described item, including its extent, dimensions, and such other physical details as a description of any accompanying materials and unit type and size. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,e,f,g,3,6,8]
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04:26 dgl-library I have a question about the OPAC
04:27 dgl-library what do I need to enable to get it up and running? when I go to I get the staff client, but at  I just see a message that says "It works!
04:27 dgl-library This is the default web page for this server.
04:27 dgl-library The web server software is running but no content has been added, yet."
04:29 dgl-library I guess this is one of those RTFM moments...
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05:03 dgl-library @marc 245d
05:03 huginn dgl-library: unknown tag 245d
05:03 dgl-library @marc 245
05:03 huginn dgl-library: The title and statement of responsibility area of the bibliographic description of a work. [a,b,c,f,g,h,k,n,p,s,6,8]
05:07 dgl-library @koha collection
05:07 huginn dgl-library: I've exhausted my database of quotes
05:07 dgl-library @8
05:07 huginn dgl-library: I've exhausted my database of quotes
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05:33 chris_n time to hit the hay
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06:13 cait hi #koha
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06:44 dgl-library Hello #koha
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07:51 drojf good day #koha
08:04 cait hi drojf :)
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09:50 dgl-library hello everybody -- I have a question about copy numbers (i.e. multiple copies of one title)
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09:52 dgl-library If anyone knows... is there a way to get Koha to assign copy numbers automatically? I didn't realize that wasn't happening automatically, so the copy numbers are all blank right now.
09:52 cait dgl-library: sorry, there is no way to do it automatically
09:53 dgl-library cait: oh. wish I were a programmer--I'd contribute a fix to that. thanks for the info.
09:53 cait dgl-library: perhaps you will one day
09:53 dgl-library so when I choose Add Multiple I have to go back and re-edit each item?
09:53 cait hm
09:53 cait have you tried to put a 1 into the first?
09:53 cait some values are updated when you use the add multiple function
09:54 cait like the barcodes
09:55 dgl-library we're gonna try that right now--as an experiment
09:57 dgl-library btw, any idea how to add the copy number to a label? the instructions say "You may include any Koha field or MARC subfield" but I'm not sure where the codes for those Koha fields are listed.
09:59 dgl-library there seem to be codenames for each field.
10:03 cait dgl-library: I thin it's referring to the field in the database
10:03 cait koha database schema
10:03 cait koha database schema?
10:03 cait schema?
10:03 wahanui schema is tracked in git. or found at
10:03 cait ah here
10:03 dgl-library ah--thanks (and to the bot)
10:04 cait look for table items
10:05 dgl-library bingo! "copynumber"
10:05 dgl-library thanks cait. where on the planet are you, btw? we're in India.
10:05 cait Germany :)
10:06 dgl-library dankeschoen (?)
10:11 cait gern geschehen (you are welcome)
10:15 dgl-library results of the experiment: Add Multiple correctly adds consecutive barcode numbers,
10:15 dgl-library but it adds the same copy number to each copy. I would call that a bug.
10:16 cait hm or a missing feature
10:16 cait it's not clever enough
10:16 dgl-library ha ha
10:16 mveron Hi cait
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10:19 dgl-library cait: it seems that Add and Duplicate the consecutive copy number is added automatically, but the barcode must be scanned in
10:20 mveron Hi #koha
10:20 dgl-library hi mveron
10:21 mveron hi dgl-library
10:22 cait dgl-library: perhaps file a bug report
10:22 cait ?
10:22 cait if it's documented someone might provide apatch
10:22 cait and hi mveron :)
10:22 dgl-library right, I should do that.
10:23 cait mveron: down to 7000
10:23 mveron cait: I have some spare time for the translation
10:23 mveron And yes, great wit the 7000
10:23 cait it's tirening
10:24 mveron It is.  It is rainy weather now here in Basel, after two sunny hours. Office weather...
10:25 cait hm still sunny here... perhaps I should go out fast :)
10:25 mveron
10:27 cait oh
10:27 cait that does look like rain later
10:29 mveron So go out now. We were on a nice market at St.Louis
10:30 cait I will
10:30 cait :)
10:31 mveron Enjoy
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10:53 Oak hello my hearties
10:59 mveron Hi Oak
11:32 Oak @wunder konstanz
11:32 huginn Oak: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 13.7°C (1:29 PM CEST on April 21, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady).
11:32 cait yeah, it's still nice :)
11:32 cait hi Oak :)
11:32 Oak :) how is cait?
11:33 cait cait is good
11:33 cait how is Oak?
11:33 Oak goood
11:33 Oak Oak is also good
11:33 wahanui okay, Oak.
11:33 cait :)
11:34 Oak let us all drink water
11:34 Oak cheers
11:37 mveron cait: What do do with wrong spellings in English? - E.g. The transfer sliip is printed...  (intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modul​es/help/tools/
11:38 cait mveron: you can't do anything about it in pootle - would need a patch
11:38 jcamins Translate it correctly into German, and submit a patch correcting the spelling.
11:38 cait I think there is a general bug reort for them somewhere
11:41 mveron Found. It is Bug 7368
11:41 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7368 trivial, P5 - low, ---,, ASSIGNED , General staff client typo omnibus
11:42 cait :)
11:58 chris_n g'moring
11:58 chris_n g'morning even
11:58 mveron Hi chris_n
12:02 cait hi chris_n
13:55 mveron by #koha
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15:36 mib_pcob0g anyone available?
15:40 mib_pcob0g i setup the koha z39.50 server by uncommenting the relevant areas, i also change the id's from publicserver   to testserver, when i use another koha to do a search with ISBN/ISSN it doesnt give any results however if i use the title it will return results
15:41 mib_pcob0g how do i setup the z39.50 to respond to isbn searches
15:43 jcamins mib_pcob0g: unfortunately, if it's not working out of the box, fixing it is going to be non-trivial.
15:44 jcamins It means that the publicserver Zebra configuration is not using the correct attribute for ISBN/ISSN.
15:45 jcamins I'm doing home repair projects today, so I can't offer much help at the moment.
15:45 mib_pcob0g where do i find that configuration
15:45 jcamins UNIMARC or MARC21?
15:45 mib_pcob0g marc21
15:45 jcamins Good.
15:46 jcamins etc/zebradb/marc_defs/marc21/biblios/record.abs.
15:46 jcamins The problem is, you have to figure out which attribute the ISBN and ISSN *should* be indexed as.
15:47 mib_pcob0g hmm ok, i'm going to try figure
15:48 jcamins Attributes are configured in etc/zebradb/biblios/bib1.att.
16:40 mib_pcob0g i cant seem to figure the correct areas for record.abs (att 7    ISBN, att 8    ISSN these from bib1.att) i do see where it references those attributes or numbers it has (# Items Indexes melm 952$0      withdrawn:n,withdrawn:w)  and other similar stuffs but none seem to reference title or so
16:45 jcamins mib_pcob0g: look around melm 245 for the title bits.
16:46 jcamins ISBN should be 020
16:46 jcamins ISSN 022 (I think)
16:46 jcamins The problem is probably attribute numbers, so it may take a bit of fiddling.
16:46 mib_pcob0g hmm ok thx, that in the section that says koha specific...
16:47 mib_pcob0g melm 020$a      ISBN:w,Identifier-standard:w   i see this line at 54
16:52 mib_pcob0g jcamins: would you know what that :w stands for?
16:53 jcamins mib_pcob0g: it's a word index.
16:54 jcamins i.e. keyword.
17:04 mib_pcob0g i noted this for 1 title reference (melm 245$a      Title-cover:w,Title-cover:p,Title​-cover:s,Title:w,Title:p,Title:s) was wondering if Title-cover:w is koha field and the other are other possible fieldnames
17:05 mib_pcob0g melm 245$a      Title-cover: w,Title-cover: p,Title-cover: s,Title:w,Title p,Title: s
17:06 jcamins mib_pcob0g: those are various indexes.
17:06 jcamins They are associated with bib1 attributes.
17:11 mib_pcob0g i see where it is said that its better to run zebradeamon from cli rather than as a deamon but when i remove the deamon and restart, clients dont get search results
17:12 jcamins You shouldn't use zebra*queue* daemon.
17:12 jcamins The zebra daemon is required.
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17:17 mib_nybd4n good day...real quick question
17:17 mib_nybd4n when following the instructions for Koha on Ubuntu, can i not add user Koha and instead use my username?
17:18 jcamins mib_nybd4n: yes you can.
17:18 mib_nybd4n i can simply just swap it out correct?
17:22 jcamins Yes. Everywhere that it says "do something as user koha," do it as your user.
17:22 jcamins In production, though, it's generally a good idea to use a separate user.
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17:25 mib_nybd4n i see...
17:25 mib_nybd4n can you upload pdfs to koha so users can see them and download them?
17:25 jcamins mib_nybd4n: no.
17:26 mib_nybd4n ok thank you for your help
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17:45 Oak \o
17:47 Oak what's up cait ?
17:47 Oak dinner?
17:47 wahanui hmmm... dinner is a good idea.
17:48 Oak oh well
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18:32 librarygeekadam i am installing Koha on Ubuntu with a Lamp server
18:32 librarygeekadam i am working with the zebra database and am getting the following messages
18:33 librarygeekadam i type "/usr/share/koha/bin/ /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon"
18:33 librarygeekadam I get this "File exists"
18:34 librarygeekadam good right...but then on the next command I get this
18:34 librarygeekadam "etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon: file does not exist"
18:34 librarygeekadam i just told me it existed so why is it now saying it does not exist?
18:34 librarygeekadam i appreciate any help anyone can offer
18:37 jcamins librarygeekadam: what are you trying to do?
18:37 librarygeekadam just install koha on a lamp server on ubuntu
18:37 jcamins Where did you get that command from?
18:37 librarygeekadam the directions tell me to "Setup Zebra Server to Automatically..."
18:37 librarygeekadam from the koha-community wiki
18:38 jcamins Okay, you missed a very important part of that.
18:38 librarygeekadam ok
18:38 librarygeekadam which part
18:38 wahanui which part is probably not right for you
18:38 jcamins At the very beginning, you need "sudo ln -s"
18:38 jcamins (followed by a space, followed by the two file names)
18:38 librarygeekadam for the first command?
18:38 librarygeekadam i am using sudo su
18:38 jcamins In that case, you don't need sudo.
18:38 jcamins Just ln -s
18:39 librarygeekadam let me check...
18:39 jcamins I am only responding to what you say... I'm not looking at the instructions.
18:39 librarygeekadam i entered it correcty because I coppied and past
18:40 librarygeekadam the first command "ln -s /usr/share/koha/bin/ /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon"
18:40 librarygeekadam works fine
18:40 jcamins Okay.
18:40 librarygeekadam it tells me the file exists
18:40 librarygeekadam the second command "update-rc.d koha-zebra-daemon defaults"
18:40 librarygeekadam tells me that the file does not exist
18:40 librarygeekadam and its the same file that it told me existed in the previous command
18:41 jcamins I'm not sure, sorry.
18:41 librarygeekadam thats ok
18:41 librarygeekadam just trying to figure out if its a problem or not
18:41 jcamins It may mean that you have to manually start the Zebra server when you restart the server.
18:41 librarygeekadam i have ignored this problem before on install and the install went fine
18:41 jcamins It also might not.
18:41 jcamins I didn't do that command, and Zebra starts up for me automatically.
18:41 librarygeekadam just trying to figure out all the details
18:41 librarygeekadam ok
18:42 librarygeekadam i'll continue on and chalk it up to a bug or something
18:42 librarygeekadam lol
18:42 librarygeekadam thanks for your time
18:43 jcamins Good luck.
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22:59 jurgens Hi, I've recently installed the Koha Live DVD from Vimal Kumar V based on Ubuntu 10..04 LTS and it works great. Will there be another Live CD/DVD based on the next upcoming LTS [Ubuntu 12.04] ?
22:59 jcamins jurgens: that's up to Vimal Kumar.
22:59 jurgens Else, would it be possible to just upgrade the current 10.04 to 12.04 and be confident that koha will still work?
23:00 jurgens I'm relatively new to this, so I apologize for what seems a silly question
23:00 jcamins With the live cd, I have no idea.
23:01 jcamins In general, yes, you can upgrade the operating system.
23:07 jurgens Thanks, thought so. If it doesn't work I can always reinstall and reload the backups!
23:07 jurgens I like the idea of releasing koha along with an LTS version.
23:09 jcamins The community doesn't have the manpower to offer long term support.

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