Time Nick Message 03:52 dgl-library Hi #koha 04:06 dgl-library @marc 300 04:06 huginn dgl-library: A physical description of the described item, including its extent, dimensions, and such other physical details as a description of any accompanying materials and unit type and size. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,e,f,g,3,6,8] 04:26 dgl-library I have a question about the OPAC 04:27 dgl-library what do I need to enable to get it up and running? when I go to 192.168.2.4:8080 I get the staff client, but at 192.168.2.4 I just see a message that says "It works! 04:27 dgl-library This is the default web page for this server. 04:27 dgl-library The web server software is running but no content has been added, yet." 04:29 dgl-library I guess this is one of those RTFM moments... 05:03 dgl-library @marc 245d 05:03 huginn dgl-library: unknown tag 245d 05:03 dgl-library @marc 245 05:03 huginn dgl-library: The title and statement of responsibility area of the bibliographic description of a work. [a,b,c,f,g,h,k,n,p,s,6,8] 05:07 dgl-library @koha collection 05:07 huginn dgl-library: I've exhausted my database of quotes 05:07 dgl-library @8 05:07 huginn dgl-library: I've exhausted my database of quotes 05:33 chris_n time to hit the hay 06:13 cait hi #koha 06:44 dgl-library Hello #koha 07:51 drojf good day #koha 08:04 cait hi drojf :) 09:50 dgl-library hello everybody -- I have a question about copy numbers (i.e. multiple copies of one title) 09:52 dgl-library If anyone knows... is there a way to get Koha to assign copy numbers automatically? I didn't realize that wasn't happening automatically, so the copy numbers are all blank right now. 09:52 cait dgl-library: sorry, there is no way to do it automatically 09:53 dgl-library cait: oh. wish I were a programmer--I'd contribute a fix to that. thanks for the info. 09:53 cait dgl-library: perhaps you will one day 09:53 dgl-library so when I choose Add Multiple I have to go back and re-edit each item? 09:53 cait hm 09:53 cait have you tried to put a 1 into the first? 09:53 cait some values are updated when you use the add multiple function 09:54 cait like the barcodes 09:55 dgl-library we're gonna try that right now--as an experiment 09:57 dgl-library btw, any idea how to add the copy number to a label? the instructions say "You may include any Koha field or MARC subfield" but I'm not sure where the codes for those Koha fields are listed. 09:59 dgl-library there seem to be codenames for each field. 10:03 cait dgl-library: I thin it's referring to the field in the database 10:03 cait koha database schema 10:03 cait koha database schema? 10:03 cait schema? 10:03 wahanui schema is tracked in git. or found at http://schema.koha-community.org 10:03 cait ah here 10:03 dgl-library ah--thanks (and to the bot) 10:04 cait look for table items 10:05 dgl-library bingo! "copynumber" 10:05 dgl-library thanks cait. where on the planet are you, btw? we're in India. 10:05 cait Germany :) 10:06 dgl-library dankeschoen (?) 10:11 cait gern geschehen (you are welcome) 10:15 dgl-library results of the experiment: Add Multiple correctly adds consecutive barcode numbers, 10:15 dgl-library but it adds the same copy number to each copy. I would call that a bug. 10:16 cait hm or a missing feature 10:16 cait it's not clever enough 10:16 dgl-library ha ha 10:16 mveron Hi cait 10:19 dgl-library cait: it seems that Add and Duplicate the consecutive copy number is added automatically, but the barcode must be scanned in 10:20 mveron Hi #koha 10:20 dgl-library hi mveron 10:21 mveron hi dgl-library 10:22 cait dgl-library: perhaps file a bug report 10:22 cait ? 10:22 cait if it's documented someone might provide apatch 10:22 cait and hi mveron :) 10:22 dgl-library right, I should do that. 10:23 cait mveron: down to 7000 10:23 mveron cait: I have some spare time for the translation 10:23 mveron And yes, great wit the 7000 10:23 cait it's tirening 10:24 mveron It is. It is rainy weather now here in Basel, after two sunny hours. Office weather... 10:25 cait hm still sunny here... perhaps I should go out fast :) 10:25 mveron http://meteo.search.ch/prognosis 10:27 cait oh 10:27 cait that does look like rain later 10:29 mveron So go out now. We were on a nice market at St.Louis 10:30 cait I will 10:30 cait :) 10:31 mveron Enjoy 10:53 Oak hello my hearties 10:59 mveron Hi Oak 11:32 Oak @wunder konstanz 11:32 huginn Oak: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 13.7°C (1:29 PM CEST on April 21, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady). 11:32 cait yeah, it's still nice :) 11:32 cait hi Oak :) 11:32 Oak :) how is cait? 11:33 cait cait is good 11:33 cait how is Oak? 11:33 Oak goood 11:33 Oak Oak is also good 11:33 wahanui okay, Oak. 11:33 cait :) 11:34 Oak let us all drink water 11:34 Oak cheers 11:37 mveron cait: What do do with wrong spellings in English? - E.g. The transfer sliip is printed... (intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/help/tools/letter.tt:154) 11:38 cait mveron: you can't do anything about it in pootle - would need a patch 11:38 jcamins Translate it correctly into German, and submit a patch correcting the spelling. 11:38 cait I think there is a general bug reort for them somewhere 11:41 mveron Found. It is Bug 7368 11:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7368 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , General staff client typo omnibus 11:42 cait :) 11:58 chris_n g'moring 11:58 chris_n g'morning even 11:58 mveron Hi chris_n 12:02 cait hi chris_n 13:55 mveron by #koha 15:36 mib_pcob0g anyone available? 15:40 mib_pcob0g i setup the koha z39.50 server by uncommenting the relevant areas, i also change the id's from publicserver to testserver, when i use another koha to do a search with ISBN/ISSN it doesnt give any results however if i use the title it will return results 15:41 mib_pcob0g how do i setup the z39.50 to respond to isbn searches 15:43 jcamins mib_pcob0g: unfortunately, if it's not working out of the box, fixing it is going to be non-trivial. 15:44 jcamins It means that the publicserver Zebra configuration is not using the correct attribute for ISBN/ISSN. 15:45 jcamins I'm doing home repair projects today, so I can't offer much help at the moment. 15:45 mib_pcob0g where do i find that configuration 15:45 jcamins UNIMARC or MARC21? 15:45 mib_pcob0g marc21 15:45 jcamins Good. 15:46 jcamins etc/zebradb/marc_defs/marc21/biblios/record.abs. 15:46 jcamins The problem is, you have to figure out which attribute the ISBN and ISSN *should* be indexed as. 15:47 mib_pcob0g hmm ok, i'm going to try figure 15:48 jcamins Attributes are configured in etc/zebradb/biblios/bib1.att. 16:40 mib_pcob0g i cant seem to figure the correct areas for record.abs (att 7 ISBN, att 8 ISSN these from bib1.att) i do see where it references those attributes or numbers it has (# Items Indexes melm 952$0 withdrawn:n,withdrawn:w) and other similar stuffs but none seem to reference title or so 16:45 jcamins mib_pcob0g: look around melm 245 for the title bits. 16:46 jcamins ISBN should be 020 16:46 jcamins ISSN 022 (I think) 16:46 jcamins The problem is probably attribute numbers, so it may take a bit of fiddling. 16:46 mib_pcob0g hmm ok thx, that in the section that says koha specific... 16:47 mib_pcob0g melm 020$a ISBN:w,Identifier-standard:w i see this line at 54 16:52 mib_pcob0g jcamins: would you know what that :w stands for? 16:53 jcamins mib_pcob0g: it's a word index. 16:54 jcamins i.e. keyword. 17:04 mib_pcob0g i noted this for 1 title reference (melm 245$a Title-cover:w,Title-cover:p,Title-cover:s,Title:w,Title:p,Title:s) was wondering if Title-cover:w is koha field and the other are other possible fieldnames 17:05 mib_pcob0g melm 245$a Title-cover: w,Title-cover: p,Title-cover: s,Title:w,Title p,Title: s 17:06 jcamins mib_pcob0g: those are various indexes. 17:06 jcamins They are associated with bib1 attributes. 17:11 mib_pcob0g i see where it is said that its better to run zebradeamon from cli rather than as a deamon but when i remove the deamon and restart, clients dont get search results 17:12 jcamins You shouldn't use zebra*queue* daemon. 17:12 jcamins The zebra daemon is required. 17:17 mib_nybd4n good day...real quick question 17:17 mib_nybd4n when following the instructions for Koha on Ubuntu, can i not add user Koha and instead use my username? 17:18 jcamins mib_nybd4n: yes you can. 17:18 mib_nybd4n i can simply just swap it out correct? 17:22 jcamins Yes. Everywhere that it says "do something as user koha," do it as your user. 17:22 jcamins In production, though, it's generally a good idea to use a separate user. 17:25 mib_nybd4n i see... 17:25 mib_nybd4n can you upload pdfs to koha so users can see them and download them? 17:25 jcamins mib_nybd4n: no. 17:26 mib_nybd4n ok thank you for your help 17:45 Oak \o 17:47 Oak what's up cait ? 17:47 Oak dinner? 17:47 wahanui hmmm... dinner is a good idea. 17:48 Oak oh well 18:32 librarygeekadam i am installing Koha on Ubuntu with a Lamp server 18:32 librarygeekadam i am working with the zebra database and am getting the following messages 18:33 librarygeekadam i type "/usr/share/koha/bin/koha-zebra-ctl.sh /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon" 18:33 librarygeekadam I get this "File exists" 18:34 librarygeekadam good right...but then on the next command I get this 18:34 librarygeekadam "etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon: file does not exist" 18:34 librarygeekadam i just told me it existed so why is it now saying it does not exist? 18:34 librarygeekadam i appreciate any help anyone can offer 18:37 jcamins librarygeekadam: what are you trying to do? 18:37 librarygeekadam just install koha on a lamp server on ubuntu 18:37 jcamins Where did you get that command from? 18:37 librarygeekadam the directions tell me to "Setup Zebra Server to Automatically..." 18:37 librarygeekadam from the koha-community wiki 18:38 jcamins Okay, you missed a very important part of that. 18:38 librarygeekadam ok 18:38 librarygeekadam which part 18:38 wahanui which part is probably not right for you 18:38 jcamins At the very beginning, you need "sudo ln -s" 18:38 jcamins (followed by a space, followed by the two file names) 18:38 librarygeekadam for the first command? 18:38 librarygeekadam i am using sudo su 18:38 jcamins In that case, you don't need sudo. 18:38 jcamins Just ln -s 18:39 librarygeekadam let me check... 18:39 jcamins I am only responding to what you say... I'm not looking at the instructions. 18:39 librarygeekadam i entered it correcty because I coppied and past 18:40 librarygeekadam the first command "ln -s /usr/share/koha/bin/koha-zebra-ctl.sh /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon" 18:40 librarygeekadam works fine 18:40 jcamins Okay. 18:40 librarygeekadam it tells me the file exists 18:40 librarygeekadam the second command "update-rc.d koha-zebra-daemon defaults" 18:40 librarygeekadam tells me that the file does not exist 18:40 librarygeekadam and its the same file that it told me existed in the previous command 18:41 jcamins I'm not sure, sorry. 18:41 librarygeekadam thats ok 18:41 librarygeekadam just trying to figure out if its a problem or not 18:41 jcamins It may mean that you have to manually start the Zebra server when you restart the server. 18:41 librarygeekadam i have ignored this problem before on install and the install went fine 18:41 jcamins It also might not. 18:41 jcamins I didn't do that command, and Zebra starts up for me automatically. 18:41 librarygeekadam just trying to figure out all the details 18:41 librarygeekadam ok 18:42 librarygeekadam i'll continue on and chalk it up to a bug or something 18:42 librarygeekadam lol 18:42 librarygeekadam thanks for your time 18:43 jcamins Good luck. 22:59 jurgens Hi, I've recently installed the Koha Live DVD from Vimal Kumar V based on Ubuntu 10..04 LTS and it works great. Will there be another Live CD/DVD based on the next upcoming LTS [Ubuntu 12.04] ? 22:59 jcamins jurgens: that's up to Vimal Kumar. 22:59 jurgens Else, would it be possible to just upgrade the current 10.04 to 12.04 and be confident that koha will still work? 23:00 jurgens I'm relatively new to this, so I apologize for what seems a silly question 23:00 jcamins With the live cd, I have no idea. 23:01 jcamins In general, yes, you can upgrade the operating system. 23:07 jurgens Thanks, thought so. If it doesn't work I can always reinstall and reload the backups! 23:07 jurgens I like the idea of releasing koha along with an LTS version. 23:09 jcamins The community doesn't have the manpower to offer long term support.