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jcamins_away |
BSES: yes. Turn on TraceAllSubfields in Searching. |
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rangi |
(thats in system preferences, under administration) |
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BSES |
found it! Thank you so much - I should read the entire manual shouldn't I? :) |
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libsysguy |
later #koha |
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mib_82cyha |
Hi |
04:11 |
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mib_82cyha |
Heloo |
04:12 |
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mib_82cyha |
I have an issue with koha, its always XML |
04:12 |
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mib_82cyha |
it always fails the package XML::RSS |
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Mahesh |
Hello Good Morning |
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mib_f4svf6 |
hello |
04:36 |
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mib_f4svf6 |
I have an issue with perl package XML::RSS |
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mib_f4svf6 |
hello |
04:41 |
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cait |
hi mib_f4svf6 |
04:41 |
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cait |
hi #koha |
04:52 |
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mib_f4svf6 |
have an issue with perl package error XML::RSS while installing |
04:53 |
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mib_f4svf6 |
hi cait |
04:54 |
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mib_f4svf6 |
error message is Test Summary Report ------------------- t/1.0-generate.t (Wstat: 2048 Tests: 25 Failed: 8) Failed tests: 16-18, 21-25 Non-zero exit status: 8 t/2.0-generate.t (Wstat: 2048 Tests: 29 Failed: 8) Failed tests: 16-18, 24-28 Non-zero exit status: 8 t/test-generated-items.t (Wstat: 65280 Tests: 174 Failed: 0) |
04:57 |
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cait |
mib_f4svf6: which version are you trying to install? |
04:59 |
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mib_f4svf6 |
hi cait ;; koha version koha-3.06.04 and operating system open suse 12.1 |
04:59 |
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cait |
hm I am not sure why the tests fail |
04:59 |
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cait |
it might be ok to continue |
05:00 |
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mib_f4svf6 |
all other packages are installed sucessfully |
05:00 |
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mib_f4svf6 |
and i had compile the packages |
05:01 |
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mib_f4svf6 |
while trying in browser its showing the package error |
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Oak |
kia ora #koha |
05:23 |
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Oak |
hello miss cait. |
05:23 |
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cait |
hi Oak |
05:23 |
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cait |
sorry mib_f4svf6 not sure how to fix it |
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Amit_Gupta |
heya bag |
05:31 |
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mib_f4svf6 |
Failed test 'Parsed ./t/generated/1.0-generated.xml' # at t/1.0-generate.t line 118. # got: ' |
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reiveune |
hello |
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alex_away |
hello! |
06:47 |
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cait |
bonjour alex_away |
06:47 |
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cait |
hi reiveune :) |
06:47 |
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reiveune |
hi cait :) |
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cait |
ok, have to run - bbl |
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Joubu |
hi |
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kf |
hi #koha |
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kf |
hi asaurat :) |
07:50 |
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asaurat |
hi !! :) |
07:53 |
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kf |
:) |
08:05 |
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rangi |
evening |
08:05 |
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kf |
evening :) |
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08:33 |
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mbalmer |
paul_p++ |
08:34 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #699 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
08:36 |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7785: Remove unused function columns() which uses a MySQLism. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]fc9895fdd601a5f11> |
08:36 |
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rangi |
no longer worried about the logs? |
08:46 |
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rangi |
@wunder nzwn |
08:46 |
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huginn |
rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0°C (8:00 PM NZST on April 05, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Rising). |
08:46 |
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rangi |
@wunder edinburgh,uk |
08:46 |
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huginn |
rangi: The current temperature in Edinburgh, United Kingdom is 4.0°C (9:45 AM BST on April 05, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). |
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09:00 |
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Oak |
i don't know if my last message went through? |
09:00 |
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Oak |
copy pasting: how important is it to set-up and use the Acquisition module? I mean, if I am skipping it altogether, can it come back and haunt me later? If yes then under what conditions? |
09:00 |
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rangi |
nope |
09:00 |
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rangi |
you can totally not use it, and at any time start to use it |
09:01 |
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Oak |
okay good. |
09:01 |
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Oak |
thank you! |
09:01 |
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rangi |
no worries |
09:01 |
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slef |
hi all |
09:01 |
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slef |
magnus_away: thanks for the signoff |
09:01 |
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rangi |
heya slef |
09:01 |
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slef |
eythian: failed QA? Really? :( |
09:02 |
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Oak |
hello slef |
09:02 |
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rangi |
heh, he replaced it with one that did all the dependencies, but yes he could have just followed up |
09:05 |
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eythian |
slef: well, I wasn't sure how long it'd take me to make a replacement, so I figured that I'd mark it that while I did one. |
09:05 |
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eythian |
turned out to be quick, so I added that. |
09:05 |
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eythian |
it would have been harder to make a follow up, as it's all generated by scripts anyway |
09:06 |
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rangi |
you not still at work eythian ? |
09:07 |
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slef |
eythian: I added only the ones necessary to make the build work. I thought you must have a reason for not listing everything. Something like a debian/HACKING might be useful. |
09:07 |
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rangi |
hmm that really didn't need not in there |
09:07 |
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eythian |
no, finishing up by eating my lunch as dinner (forgot it was a pizza day) and don't yet have a microwave to reheat it at home. |
09:08 |
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eythian |
slef: ah, no. The script walks through all the declared dependencies and adds them. If it shows them, they almost always should be added. |
09:08 |
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eythian |
you're right, a file explaining that would be good. |
09:09 |
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slef |
eythian: what script? |
09:09 |
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wahanui |
script is, like, here, take it, pretty it up, use it ;) |
09:09 |
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eythian |
slef: debian/update-control |
09:09 |
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slef |
eythian: doh, should have spotted that one |
09:10 |
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eythian |
it actually needs a bit of work when I get the chance, there are some deps not in debian that it freaks out about a bit |
09:10 |
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eythian |
(in sid, not in squeeze I think) |
09:11 |
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09:12 |
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slef |
aaaaag bug 2780 mailbombed me |
09:12 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2780 minor, P3, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Capitalize strings consistently |
09:12 |
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slef |
another drawback of lots-of-little-patches |
09:22 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #699: SUCCESS in 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/699/ |
09:22 |
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jenkins_koha |
marc: Bug 7785: Remove unused function columns() which uses a MySQLism. |
09:22 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7785 trivial, P5 - low, ---, marc, Pushed to Master , Unnecessary MySQL-ism: C4::Members columns() |
09:26 |
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slef |
rangi: what's your view on running that git gc command that fredericd suggests? |
09:28 |
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rangi |
id have to test it doesn't do anything weird |
09:28 |
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rangi |
git gc is fine |
09:29 |
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rangi |
i need to read up on what --prune=now does |
09:29 |
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rangi |
probably when im more sober |
09:29 |
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rangi |
ahhh |
09:29 |
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rangi |
git gc does prune 2 weeks ago by default |
09:30 |
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rangi |
so yeah its harmless i thnk |
09:34 |
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slef |
rangi: paul_p just reported it's a memory and cpu hog |
09:34 |
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slef |
but if you can get through that, it looks fine |
09:35 |
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rangi |
well thats the --aggressive bit |
09:35 |
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rangi |
that works the machine hard |
09:35 |
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slef |
wahanui: irc log? |
09:35 |
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wahanui |
i think irc log is at http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/ |
09:36 |
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rangi |
logs? |
09:36 |
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wahanui |
logs is http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/ |
09:36 |
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slef |
errr, which to use? |
09:36 |
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rangi |
same machine but nicer url |
09:36 |
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rangi |
its both my computer here at home |
09:36 |
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slef |
wahanui: forget irc log |
09:36 |
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wahanui |
slef: I forgot irc log |
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dpavlin_ |
rangi: awake again :-) |
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kf |
hi dpavlin_ :) |
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dpavlin_ |
Did you noticed that Samuel erased himself from Translation Manager role? http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]diff=0&oldid=7303 |
11:46 |
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Culiforge |
Could someone offer some assistance here, Fedora14, trying to get to the koha web setup, http://pastebin.com/gYAQPRdu |
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slef |
Culiforge: have you installed the package containing Authen::CAS::Client? |
11:52 |
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Culiforge |
slef: should have.. checking... |
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12:00 |
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Culiforge |
slef: hmm, went to install and get [msg] no 'root/.cpanplus/custom-sources' dir, skipping custom sources |
12:00 |
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jcamins |
Culiforge: you shouldn't need any custom sources, I don't think. |
12:00 |
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Culiforge |
slef: wait,wait.. it's still going |
12:01 |
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Culiforge |
it just paused quite long.. maybe searching sources I think |
12:05 |
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Culiforge |
'Can't call method "id" on an undefined value at InstallAuth.pm line 288' |
12:05 |
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Culiforge |
that's from the browser |
12:06 |
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Culiforge |
I think it's good news that there's only on error now :) |
12:06 |
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Culiforge |
*one* |
12:08 |
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jcamins |
Culiforge: you're missing CGI::Session::something-or-other. |
12:08 |
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Culiforge |
one sec, checking on that.. |
12:08 |
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jcamins |
CGI::Session::Serialize::yaml |
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slef |
@query google books |
12:11 |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3673 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Pazpar2 integration |
12:11 |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6267 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , custom http user-agent in check-url.pl (fix for books.google.com 401 error) |
12:11 |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6035 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Mobile interface for OPAC |
12:11 |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7594 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Google Cover CSS suggestions |
12:11 |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7657 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Google and OpenLibrary image conflict |
12:11 |
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slef |
I'm taking bug 6267 |
12:11 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6267 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , custom http user-agent in check-url.pl (fix for books.google.com 401 error) |
12:11 |
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jcamins |
slef: go for it. |
12:17 |
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Culiforge |
jcamins: slef - muhahaha, thanks, that did the trick, I'm in. kudos and cookies to you both |
12:20 |
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slef |
Changes submitted for bug 6267 |
12:20 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6267 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , custom http user-agent in check-url.pl (fix for books.google.com 401 error) |
12:24 |
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* dpavlin_ |
happy -- first fully succeful database upgrade on plack with bug 7857 :-) |
12:24 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7857 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Needs Signoff , database upgrade fails with plack |
12:26 |
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kf |
:) |
12:26 |
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slef |
actually, why does check-url GET rather than HEAD? |
12:29 |
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slef |
not that it would have fixed bug 6267 |
12:29 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6267 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , custom http user-agent in check-url.pl (fix for books.google.com 401 error) |
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dpavlin_ |
bug 6701 changed syspreference timeout to ms, which is wrong. Can somebody sign-off it before string freeze? |
12:40 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6701 normal, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Needs Signoff , language on timeout system preference is wrong |
12:41 |
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kf |
I can try to do it tonight |
12:41 |
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chris_n |
dpavlin_: I can do it in a few moments |
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chris_n |
hi kf |
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dpavlin_ |
kf++ chris_n++ :-) |
12:43 |
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kf |
:) |
12:43 |
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kf |
chris_n++ |
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libsysguy |
sometimes you're trolling your own catalog and you see a book that just makes you go WTF |
12:52 |
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libsysguy |
then you make the mistake of opening it and wish you hadn't |
12:52 |
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kf |
? |
12:53 |
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libsysguy |
Tantra for two |
12:53 |
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kf |
lol |
12:53 |
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libsysguy |
…full of naked fat people |
12:53 |
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libsysguy |
WHYYYY |
12:53 |
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kf |
and that in a library, scandalous |
12:54 |
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libsysguy |
in a conservative library |
12:54 |
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libsysguy |
actually I found a book in reference one day that was "Teaching to a segregated classroom" |
12:57 |
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* chris_n |
wonders why we create biblioimages in rev 3.07.00.010 and again later in 3.07.00.025 |
12:57 |
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jcamins |
chris_n: typo. |
12:58 |
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chris_n |
where? |
12:58 |
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jcamins |
kohastructure.sql. |
12:58 |
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chris_n |
the create table statements look identical |
12:58 |
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kf |
chris_n: there was a bug |
12:59 |
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kf |
wrong table name in some installations |
12:59 |
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kf |
because different name in kohastructure |
12:59 |
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chris_n |
I see a note to the effect that the table name is wrong |
12:59 |
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chris_n |
ahh, so if you performed a new install between the two revs you had an incorrect table name? |
13:00 |
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chris_n |
so why not a simple RENAME TABLE rather than drop and create |
13:00 |
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jcamins |
Right. |
13:00 |
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jcamins |
I don't recall. |
13:00 |
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chris_n |
or was the entire structure wrong? |
13:01 |
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jcamins |
I think there may have been an error in the table name and also in some of the column names. |
13:01 |
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jcamins |
And since there was no way for data to get into it, I decided to just use DROP and CREATE. |
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chris_n |
k, nasty business errors are |
13:01 |
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jcamins |
Yup. |
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vfernandes |
hi guys |
13:07 |
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vfernandes |
i can't upload patron images in bulk |
13:08 |
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vfernandes |
picture-upload.pl: Can't exec "unzip": No such file or directory |
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dpavlin_ |
vfernandes: apt-get install unzip |
13:09 |
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vfernandes |
omg... i thought that was some problem with the script and not a missing package |
13:10 |
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jcamins |
vfernandes: I think that feature may currently be broken. |
13:10 |
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jcamins |
Oh, that means you need to install unzip. |
13:10 |
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jcamins |
sudo apt-get install unzip |
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dpavlin_ |
Did you install from koha package? It has dependecy on unzip so it should work AFAIK |
13:11 |
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vfernandes |
i've installed the unzip but it gives another error |
13:11 |
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vfernandes |
Opening /tmp/KQIJOcb0oH/ failed! |
13:13 |
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jcamins |
vfernandes: unfortunately, I'm still pretty sure that feature doesn't work at the moment. |
13:13 |
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vfernandes |
damn :/ |
13:13 |
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vfernandes |
so how i can upload praton images in bulk? |
13:14 |
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jcamins |
vfernandes: I don't think you can. |
13:14 |
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jcamins |
vfernandes: I could be mistaken, I don't ever use that feature. |
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vfernandes |
ok, thanks jcamins |
13:15 |
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vfernandes |
another questions that kf had tried to help me |
13:15 |
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vfernandes |
i'm having some strange enconding problems with Koha |
13:16 |
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chris_n |
vfernandes: that feature has worked fine in the past, if it does not now, please file a bug |
13:17 |
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jcamins |
chris_n: it just broke recently. I think there is a bug. |
13:17 |
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vfernandes |
i'm using 3.2.6... not a recent version |
13:17 |
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jcamins |
Bug 7643. |
13:17 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7643 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Can't upload and import zipped file of patron images |
13:17 |
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jcamins |
vfernandes: it worked fine in 3.2. |
13:18 |
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vfernandes |
ok i will check the logs... |
13:20 |
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vfernandes |
now you can try help me whit something.... i've having strange encoding problems with the MARC expanded views and cataloguing view |
13:20 |
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* chris_n |
dutifully reassigns 7643 to himself |
13:20 |
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vfernandes |
i'll give you a exemple |
13:24 |
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vfernandes |
http://koha.ulusiada.pt/cgi-bi[…]iblionumber=84701 |
13:24 |
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vfernandes |
look at tags description... encoding probelm :/ |
13:25 |
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vfernandes |
i've checked in the code of opac-MARCDetail.pl and the tags are returned well from the database but when concating the string the encoding gets wrong |
13:26 |
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vfernandes |
$tag_data{tag} = $fields[$x_i]->tag() . ' ' . C4::Koha::display_marc_indicators($fields[$x_i]) . ' - ' . $tagslib->{ $fields[$x_i]->tag() }->{lib}; |
13:26 |
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jcamins |
vfernandes: did you try a newer version? |
13:26 |
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jcamins |
At the very least, you should be running 3.2.10, which is the last version of 3.2.x. |
13:27 |
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vfernandes |
jcamins the same database, the same scripts and templates in another system works fine |
13:29 |
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vfernandes |
same Koha version |
13:31 |
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vfernandes |
before that code line the tags and descriptions are correct. After concat encoding go bad :/ |
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jcamins |
vfernandes: in that case, it's something to do with your particular setup. |
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vfernandes |
locale are UTF8, same for Apache and for MySQL |
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vfernandes |
any idea of what it could be? |
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Culiforge |
does koha require a specific version of PDF::API2::Simple, the version I have doesn't want to install? |
13:34 |
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jcamins |
Culiforge: it's not required at all. |
13:34 |
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jcamins |
vfernandes: none, sorry. |
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jcamins |
Culiforge: it's used for patron cards, labels, and invoices, but you can continue on if installing it is not working now. |
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Culiforge |
jcamins: hmm, web installer is telling me it MUST be installed. both makefile and cpan tell me can't locate inc/module/install.pm |
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jcamins |
Hm. |
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jcamins |
It shouldn't. |
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Culiforge |
jcamins: big red letters too |
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jcamins |
Yeah, that's not so good. |
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Culiforge |
jcamins: otherwise.. when you say it's not needed... I tend to listen to you... |
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Culiforge |
jcamins: could it be a problem with the source file? |
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jcamins |
Culiforge: oh, I know what it is. You're missing MakeMaker. |
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vfernandes |
jcamins i've solve it :):) finally |
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Culiforge |
jcamins: is that the extutils-makemaker.noarch? |
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chris_n |
jcamins: have a look at bug 7902 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7902 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Needs Signoff , Adding Function to Check for Existence of Tables |
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Culiforge |
jcamins: says it's there.. unless there's another makemaker I need? |
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jcamins |
Culiforge: that's the one I was thinking of. |
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vfernandes |
it was the DBD::mysql perl package... |
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jcamins |
chris_n: brilliant! |
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vfernandes |
the version was 3.0... i've upgraded to 4.0 and works fine |
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chris_n |
sign-off and maybe paul_p will push it into 3.8 |
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chris_n |
it makes no serious changes and gets rid of errors (not) |
13:45 |
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* chris_n |
goes off to sign-off on 6701 |
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jcamins |
Culiforge: I'm sorry, you need Module::Install. |
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jcamins |
I got confused about which one was needed. |
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jcamins |
MakeMaker is automatic, Module::Install is not. |
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jcamins |
http://lists.katipo.co.nz/publ[…]March/023259.html |
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Culiforge |
jcamins: cool cool.. just found it myself, looking in the makefile script |
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asaurat |
did someone created a new basket recently on a master koha ? :p I can't do it anymore, dunno if there's a new bug or if I broke my DB (can happen =)) |
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chris_n |
dpavlin_: bug 6701 signed off |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6701 normal, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Signed Off , language on timeout system preference is wrong |
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dpavlin_ |
chris_n++ |
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* chris_n |
actually feels a bit useful now ;-) |
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chris_n |
jcamins++ |
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chris_n |
paul_p around? |
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chris_n |
@later tell paul_p any chance we can slip bug 7902 into 3.8? |
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huginn |
chris_n: The operation succeeded. |
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* chris_n |
hands jcamins a chocolate icecream sandwich |
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jcamins |
Mmm. |
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jcamins |
chris_n++ |
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slef |
has anybody here... seen my old friend bug 6267? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6267 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , custom http user-agent in check-url.pl (fix for books.google.com 401 error) |
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jcamins |
Does anyone know of any reason why Koha doesn't use the popularity index anymore? |
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wizzyrea |
because there's no way to automatically populate the field in the record? |
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wizzyrea |
at least, that was my impression. |
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kf |
well... there would be ways... but we don't do it? |
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matts |
hey kf, just to let you know, i implemented your "less-confusing" way for BZ7412 :) |
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wizzyrea |
well, yea, "no way" meaning "there is no existent code to do it right now" |
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jcamins |
So, "because GRS-1 sucks" is the relevant answer here, too. |
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jcamins |
:) |
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jcamins |
Just checking. |
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jcamins |
It seems to me that it would be really useful. |
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kf |
yay :) |
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wizzyrea |
if you are inclined to fix it I'd test it for you :P |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: we're waiting on gmcharlt's DOM indexing. :) |
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wizzyrea |
*nod* |
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jcamins |
I mean, it's not a completely simple fix, but it's not too bad. |
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chris_n |
anybody looked at chrome's "Audit" of various koha pages? |
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jcamins |
Whoah. Remove 1339 unused CSS rules. |
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* chris_n |
notes that it suggests that 2594 css rules are loaded but not used by the opac page |
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chris_n |
snap |
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wizzyrea |
not sure what you are referring to |
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chris_n |
among other performance suggestions |
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chris_n |
wizzyrea: in chrome |
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wizzyrea |
but where :p |
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chris_n |
right-click and select "inspect element" |
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chris_n |
:-) |
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chris_n |
then you'll see an "audit" button |
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wizzyrea |
oh, ha, you mean the "audits" tab |
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wizzyrea |
derp |
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chris_n |
go ahead.. |
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chris_n |
push it |
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* wizzyrea |
has morning blindness |
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wizzyrea |
some of that is because of opacusercss |
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* chris_n |
wonders if implementing those suggestions would noticeably improve performance |
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wizzyrea |
and opacuserjs |
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wahanui |
rumour has it opacuserjs is a syspref |
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oleonard |
Chrome only knows what is on that particular page. It doesn't know what CSS rules are used on other pages |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: most of what we're not using is opac.css. |
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jcamins |
I wish there were a way to crawl the entire site, and see whether any CSS rules were not used *at all*. |
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chris_n |
oleonard: so does it make sense to break things up? |
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chris_n |
or is that a nightmare |
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oleonard |
Probably not, since loading the CSS once and caching it is probably faster |
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oleonard |
It would probably be better to consolidate the CSS even more so that we're not loading so many different ones on a single page |
14:45 |
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wizzyrea |
that "optimize the order of styles and scripts" is almost certainly caused by those sysprefs though |
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oleonard |
That one we should file a bug for |
14:47 |
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* chris_n |
had to find something to do while waiting for items to be separated from bibs |
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jcamins |
Hmmm... it should be pretty easy to move CSS and JS to a separate domain, I think. |
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oleonard |
jcamins: Why? |
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jcamins |
oleonard: that's one of the things Chrome says we should do. |
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* chris_n |
files a bug |
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jcamins |
I'm reflecting that would be pretty easy if it's worthwhile. |
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chris_n |
oleonard: I hope bug 7906 makes some sense :-P |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7906 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Optimize the order of styles and scripts |
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chris_n |
chrome's network tab is insightful as well |
14:57 |
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jcamins |
Any idea what data:text/css is? |
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chris_n |
? |
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chris_n |
where are you seeing that? |
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jcamins |
chris_n: it's being loaded by the OPAC? |
15:00 |
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jcamins |
*. |
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jcamins |
In the network tab. |
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chris_n |
style sheets? |
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jcamins |
<link type="text/css" rel="stylesheet" href="data:text/css,"> |
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chris_n |
ahh |
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chris_n |
not sure |
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jcamins |
I'm not sure where it's coming from, either. |
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oleonard |
What page? I don't see it |
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jcamins |
Main OPAC page. |
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oleonard |
Do you have something in OPACUserCSS? |
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oleonard |
I still don't see it |
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reiveune1 |
bye |
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jcamins |
Weird... I found the line right before, and the line right after it in doc-head-close.inc. |
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chris_n |
bye |
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jcamins |
They're consecutive. |
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jcamins |
And the line doesn't show up in the source. Just in the inspector. |
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jcamins |
Oh, something to do with javascript. |
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chris_n |
to enable xslt in opac I should just have to enter 'default' for OPACXSLT*Display, right? |
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* chris_n |
feels like he's in the dark ages being back on 3.2 |
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oleonard |
Mammoth OPAC patch for Bug 2780 submitted. |
15:10 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2780 minor, P3, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Capitalize strings consistently |
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wizzyrea |
oh wow no lie, that is mammoth |
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oleonard |
And I'm sure I've missed things |
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chris_n |
nice |
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kf |
oleonard: it will still be a looooo tmore consistent than we have ever been before :) |
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kf |
oh |
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kf |
and translators are going to hate you :P |
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oleonard |
Oh well :) |
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kf |
first ... later they will like it :) |
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wizzyrea |
are we qa'ing these by reading the patches + making sure they apply? |
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wizzyrea |
curious how others did it |
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kf |
hm |
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kf |
should we have a general bug t clean the logs? |
15:18 |
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kf |
there are lots and lots and lots of entries inmy logs everytime I look |
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kf |
I think we activated warnings... code was ok... and then we added new thigns that made it complain again |
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oleonard |
wizzyrea: I think it would be too difficult to try to view each page. |
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chris_n |
kf: I think there may be a bug for that |
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wizzyrea |
there ought to be a cron to archive and truncate actionitems |
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chris_n |
trouble is, I don't remember which |
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wizzyrea |
actionlogs |
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kf |
mentioning it... *hint* in hope someone goes and fixes some of those |
15:19 |
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wizzyrea |
. sheesh. Actionitems |
15:19 |
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* chris_n |
hands wizzyrea a new keyboard |
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* wizzyrea |
has succumbed to the buzzword mentality SAVE ME |
15:20 |
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jcamins |
kf: aren't you talking about the Apache log? |
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kf |
koha-error-logs |
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chris_n |
oohh, rounded corners |
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chris_n |
oleonard++ |
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kf |
and the opac one... but I hardly go there.. mostly looking at the intranet log |
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* wizzyrea |
ahems |
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kf |
and it's crowded |
15:20 |
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kf |
wizzyrea++ |
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kf |
chris_n fast! |
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wizzyrea |
lol :) |
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wizzyrea |
j/k |
15:20 |
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wizzyrea |
well kinda |
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wizzyrea |
depends on which rounded corners >.> |
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* wizzyrea |
would roundify lots of stuff. |
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* chris_n |
thinks his librarians will be lost after the upgrade :-) |
15:22 |
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kf |
chris_n: they will love it :) |
15:22 |
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kf |
chris_n: we upgraded all our librraies from 3.2.2 to 3.6.3 very recently |
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kf |
and they like it a lot :) |
15:22 |
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chris_n |
I can only imagine |
15:22 |
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chris_n |
bugs are crawling out of 3.2.x like crazy around here |
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chris_n |
which have been fixed |
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chris_n |
so which xslt stylesheet is the "default"? |
15:28 |
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kf |
the one in your language folder |
15:28 |
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kf |
prog/en/xslt/... |
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kf |
:) |
15:29 |
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kf |
hm more precise perhaps the one that comes with Koha - because you could add your own into that folder and give the patch now :) which is pretty cool |
15:29 |
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chris_n |
well, there were [sic] more than one ;-) |
15:29 |
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chris_n |
but I figured it out |
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kf |
oh ok |
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* chris_n |
needs more caffine |
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* kf |
should go home :) |
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* chris_n |
works on integrating a "reader" into his koha installation |
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alex_a |
bye ! |
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chris_n |
wow, are references to *.tmpl files still used? |
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* chris_n |
eyeballs line 32 in opac-main.pl |
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jcamins |
chris_n: they're translated to .tt in C4. |
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chris_n |
why not just fix it all? |
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chris_n |
seems asking for problems |
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chris_n |
so when I write new pages, I have to observe that syntax? |
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jcamins |
chris_n: new pages should use .tt. |
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chris_n |
we need to fix the old ones imho |
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chris_n |
half-baked things are asking for trouble |
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slef |
@quote add <chris_n> half-baked things are asking for trouble |
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huginn |
slef: The operation succeeded. Quote #197 added. |
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slef |
@quote random |
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huginn |
slef: Quote #79: "<robin> drivers make windows crash, therefore windows makes drivers crash." (added by gmcharlt at 01:53 AM, June 24, 2010) |
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julian_m |
/ping |
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kf |
bye all and happy easter :) |
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uwe |
Hello, i got koha installed now; and on the web i can open the page in the browser but it gets me to System Maintenance page. im not sure what i did wrong, the documentation was a bit scattered and i might have done something wrong ... |
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slef |
bye kf you slacker :) |
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kf |
? |
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slef |
uwe: log into the intranet interface |
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kf |
slacker? |
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slef |
kf: oh just that I'll be here at least one day of the next 4 |
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uwe |
im using the IP; im not sure what you mean |
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kf |
kf won't but cait will be too ;) |
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oleonard |
uwe: You're seeing the public interface, the OPAC. You need to navigate to the staff client to run the web installer |
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slef |
uwe: stick :8080 on the end, probably |
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slef |
(of the IP) |
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uwe |
yep ! |
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uwe |
now i got in :) |
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slef |
@query logging |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2394 major, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , canreservefromotherbranches preference not working |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2821 minor, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Auth.pm gets too much information when authenticating staff user |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5371 major, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Back-button in OPAC shows previous user's details, after LOGOUT |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3296 enhancement, P3, ---, mjr, NEW , replace sessionlog with Perl4Log implementation |
16:25 |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6890 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Add 'delete reserve' to modification logging |
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libsysguy |
@quote random |
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huginn |
libsysguy: Quote #143: "rhcl: Blame the C coders; if it was written in Ada it would have exception handling." (added by wizzyrea at 09:51 PM, June 28, 2011) |
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wizzyrea |
@quote random |
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huginn |
wizzyrea: Quote #63: "<jwagner> But no one expects the Spammish Inquisition!" (added by jdavidb at 01:50 PM, March 01, 2010) |
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wizzyrea |
lol! |
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wizzyrea |
that's a great one |
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oleonard |
Thanks for the signoff wizzyrea |
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chris_n |
lol |
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wizzyrea |
yw |
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slef |
damn I think I've broken my dev install |
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slef |
it says "No physical items for this record" when there are two items attached |
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* slef |
throws the database on the floor in disgust |
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sjeffery |
You are thinking of it the wrong way...you simply found a new bug:) |
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jcamins_away |
slef: there was an updatedatabase issue. |
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jcamins_away |
slef: check your version. It probably says 30799 instead of 30700. |
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jcamins_away |
Change it to 30700, go through updatedatabase, and it will resume working. |
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wahanui |
jcamins_away: that doesn't look right |
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slef |
now with a clean database, I can't add any rules http://intranet.plantain.obscu[…]in/smart-rules.pl in the first table. I click Add and they don't show up. |
17:40 |
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jcamins_away |
slef: that's a new one. |
17:40 |
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slef |
Koha version: 3.07.00.044 |
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slef |
let me retry this with master and make really sure I'm latest master |
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slef |
Koha version: 3.07.00.044 |
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slef |
same problem in smart-rules.pl |
17:44 |
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slef |
does it work for anyone else on current master? |
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jcamins_away |
Sounds like a bug. |
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slef |
sure, but bug in koha or my setup |
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slef |
? |
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jcamins_away |
I don't know, and I'm not at home anymore. |
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oleonard |
Hmm... I'm not seeing items either... |
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slef |
this smart-rules thing is with a clean database and all dataset options in the webinstaller ticket |
17:46 |
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slef |
ticked |
17:47 |
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slef |
[Thu Apr 5 18:43:30 2012] smart-rules.pl: DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Unknown column 'lengthunit' in 'field list' at /home/coop/koha/unstable/src/admin/smart-rules.pl line 132., referer: http://intranet.plantain.obscu[…]in/smart-rules.pl |
17:47 |
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slef |
so where should lengthunit have come from? |
17:47 |
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jcamins_away |
Well, that sounds kind of broken. |
17:47 |
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jcamins_away |
I think that's the follow-up patch to hourly that hasn't been pushed yet? |
17:48 |
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slef |
@query hourly |
17:48 |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6432 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Changes to C4::Circulation to support Hourly Circulation |
17:48 |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6438 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Changes to smart rules interface to support hourly/minutes loan times as well as daily |
17:48 |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3758 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Automatic Exchange Rates |
17:48 |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7899 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tdavis, NEW , Remove C4::Dates from C4::Circulation |
17:48 |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, chris, Needs Signoff , Hourly Loans |
17:48 |
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slef |
5549? |
17:48 |
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jcamins_away |
Yes. |
17:48 |
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jcamins_away |
The one set to Needs Signoff. |
17:49 |
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slef |
looking now |
17:49 |
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jcamins_away |
I could be mistaken, but I thought there was a follow-up to the follow-up which added the unit to smart rules. |
17:49 |
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jcamins_away |
@query fine in days |
17:49 |
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huginn |
jcamins_away: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6891 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , LDIF interoperability - a proposal |
17:49 |
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huginn |
jcamins_away: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4906 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Problem with grace period calculation and fine intervals >1 |
17:49 |
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huginn |
jcamins_away: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6873 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Incremental fine system |
17:49 |
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huginn |
jcamins_away: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6775 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, shinoy.m, REOPENED , Allow reason to be specified when debarring |
17:49 |
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huginn |
jcamins_away: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3896 minor, P3, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Notices: Cant specify if a notice is available as a digest or in advance in the web interface |
17:49 |
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jcamins_away |
@query units |
17:49 |
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huginn |
jcamins_away: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5181 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , Add js to convert units when units are changed on label or card template form |
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huginn |
jcamins_away: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5176 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, NEW , SIPServer Incorrectly Requires Login over Socket |
17:49 |
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huginn |
jcamins_away: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, chris, Needs Signoff , Hourly Loans |
17:49 |
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huginn |
jcamins_away: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6335 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, colin.campbell, Needs Signoff , Branch not set consistently in all SIP transactions |
17:49 |
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huginn |
jcamins_away: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5668 enhancement, P3, ---, mtj, Passed QA , Star ratings in the opac |
17:50 |
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slef |
@query lengthunit |
17:50 |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, chris, Needs Signoff , Hourly Loans |
17:50 |
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chris_n |
interesting; it looks like TT comments out embedded php |
17:50 |
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chris_n |
when rendering |
17:50 |
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jcamins_away |
chris_n: why are you embedding PHP? |
17:51 |
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jcamins_away |
chris_n: isn't the idea of embedding PHP that you don't use a templating engine? |
17:51 |
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chris_n |
because the IA reader is written in php and python (a horrible combination to be sure) |
17:51 |
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slef |
I can see lengthunit in ./installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl:5022 and ./installer/data/mysql/atomicupdate/hourlyloans.sql:1 but does updatedatabase.pl get called on a clean installation? |
17:52 |
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jcamins_away |
slef: no. It should be in kohastructure.sql. |
17:52 |
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chris_n |
jcamins_away: and I'm trying to get away without having to write a perl interface for it |
17:52 |
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slef |
jcamins_away: let me git blame to see what needs a follow-up |
17:52 |
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slef |
5549 again |
17:53 |
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slef |
commit 8cea8e5cc05075dc391194248d31a54586389601 |
17:53 |
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jcamins_away |
chris_n: shouldn't the viewer be embedded via AJAX? |
17:54 |
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jcamins_away |
So you click the "view ebook" link, and it loads the PHP/Python-based viewer in a lightbox? |
17:55 |
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chris_n |
that's one possibility |
17:55 |
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jcamins_away |
Extra work? Why would I want to do that? |
17:56 |
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chris_n |
exactly |
17:57 |
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jcamins_away |
chris_n: it seems to me that just AJAXing the link into existence would be less work than real embedding. |
17:57 |
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slef |
c966aaf bug 5549: change to kohastructure.sql missing from commit |
17:57 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, chris, Needs Signoff , Hourly Loans |
17:58 |
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jcamins_away |
slef: did you add it to updatedatabase.pl again as well? |
17:58 |
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slef |
jcamins_away: oh no. |
17:58 |
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jcamins_away |
slef: you probably should, to fix all the installations that were done between when hourly was committed, and when the follow-up gets pushed. |
18:00 |
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jcamins_away |
slef: were you doing something with hierarchical authorities recently? |
18:06 |
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slef |
jcamins_away: will do. |
18:07 |
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slef |
jcamins_away: I don't remember. I think I was looking at hierarchical organisations more recently |
18:10 |
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jcamins_away |
Can anyone think of any situation where a link between two *established* authorities might not be bidirection? |
18:12 |
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slef |
Attached bug 5549 change-to-kohastructuresql-missing-from-c.patch |
18:12 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, chris, Needs Signoff , Hourly Loans |
18:12 |
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slef |
jcamins_away: do you mean the same in both directions, or just that there is an inverse link? |
18:13 |
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jcamins_away |
I mean where there would not be an inverse link. |
18:13 |
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slef |
jcamins_away: what about when an authority references another earlier authority, but the referenced authority doesn't recognise the referencer? |
18:14 |
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jcamins_away |
If "Siberians" is a narrower term pointed to from "Cats" then "Cats" should be the broader term for "Siberians". |
18:14 |
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slef |
so say BlogAuth says that blog is a narrower term of TypeAuth's Book, but TypeAuth never mentions BlogAuth? |
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jcamins_away |
That's the problem I'm trying to solve. |
18:14 |
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slef |
so only if you are going across authority sources, I think I mean |
18:15 |
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slef |
If both authority records are from the same source, they should be internally consistent AFAICT |
18:15 |
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jcamins_away |
If your authority file only stores narrower terms, but does it consistently, there's no reason broader terms couldn't be derived. |
18:16 |
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slef |
Yes but they would need deriving. |
18:16 |
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jcamins_away |
Right. That's a pretty big development. |
18:16 |
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slef |
OH YOU POS MYSQL |
18:16 |
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slef |
how does mysql not accept ""s yet? |
18:17 |
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* slef |
runs around with a pretty big fire axe |
18:17 |
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slef |
wahanui: mysql docs? |
18:17 |
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wahanui |
slef: i don't know |
18:17 |
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slef |
wahanui: mysql doc? |
18:17 |
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wahanui |
no idea, slef |
18:17 |
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slef |
wahanui: mysql? |
18:17 |
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wahanui |
i guess mysql is currently limited to 100MB of RAM. |
18:17 |
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slef |
wahanui: mysql docs is http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/ |
18:17 |
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wahanui |
OK, slef. |
18:18 |
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* slef |
fixes that patch he just wrote |
18:19 |
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slef |
# ANSI_QUOTES Treat “"†as an identifier quote character (like the “`†quote character) and not as a string quote character. You can still use “`†to quote identifiers with this mode enabled. With ANSI_QUOTES enabled, you cannot use double quotation marks to quote literal strings, because it is interpreted as an identifier. |
18:19 |
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slef |
sodding rubbish database this |
18:21 |
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jcamins_away |
Why do we need to quote column names at all? |
18:21 |
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slef |
because if they become a reserved word in a future version of mysql, then it'll break |
18:22 |
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slef |
or if they're currently a reserved word |
18:22 |
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slef |
and there are some pretty bizarre reserved words in there |
18:22 |
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jcamins_away |
Ah. |
18:22 |
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slef |
I've had that happen before. |
18:23 |
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jcamins_away |
So in other words, just removing backticks as recommended (as I understand it) by Postgres enthusiasts is a bad idea? |
18:23 |
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slef |
yep |
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slef |
ANSI says to use " but mysql only recognises those optionally (see above) and kohastructure.sql contains ""d literals like "0" too |
18:24 |
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oleonard |
db fight! Go! |
18:24 |
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slef |
nah, it's more a compatibility fight |
18:24 |
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slef |
there is no compatible option here |
18:25 |
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slef |
right, long-overdue coffee time here. smart-rules.pl works for me again now |
18:25 |
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jcamins_away |
So, use backticks, and change all the double quotes to single quotes and all the backquotes to double quotes at a future time. |
18:25 |
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slef |
but this means redoing this week's deployments. QA needs help. |
18:25 |
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jcamins_away |
Where backquote=backtick |
18:26 |
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slef |
jcamins_away: yeah, that's probably the correct next move. |
18:26 |
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* jcamins_away |
nominates someone who cares to do that. |
18:26 |
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slef |
jcamins_away: mbalmer? ;) |
18:27 |
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slef |
jcamins_away: do you think we'd get far expecting all users to switch to ANSI_QUOTES mode on their mysql servers though? |
18:27 |
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jcamins_away |
slef: he seems like a good choice. |
18:27 |
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* chris_n |
gets out the popcorn and soda to watch the fight with oleonard |
18:27 |
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jcamins_away |
slef: why do you need to? Can't you do SET ANSI_QUOTES=1 at the beginning of kohastructure.sql? |
18:28 |
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slef |
jcamins_away: won't that break postgresql if it ever loads kohastructure.sql? |
18:29 |
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slef |
really it sucks that it's a global or session option, not a database one |
18:29 |
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slef |
I thought it was SET sql_mode = 'ANSI'; anyway. |
18:29 |
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slef |
right, even-longer-overdue coffee time here. |
18:30 |
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jcamins_away |
slef: no idea. I don't use Postgres. |
18:30 |
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jcamins_away |
You could use the MySQL specific comment-command-thingies. |
18:30 |
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jcamins_away |
chris_n: is it kettlecorn, by any chance? |
18:30 |
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jcamins_away |
slef: easy enough to set it on the session, one presumes. |
18:30 |
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jcamins_away |
lol |
18:30 |
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chris_n |
jcamins_away: its virtual pop-corn, so whatever you like ;-) |
18:31 |
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chris_n |
popcorn, even |
18:31 |
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jcamins_away |
chris_n: mmm. Kettlecorn. |
18:31 |
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wizzyrea |
wait who's fighting? |
18:31 |
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* wizzyrea |
looks around confused |
18:31 |
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chris_n |
wizzyrea: its a db fight |
18:31 |
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wizzyrea |
ohhh |
18:31 |
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jcamins_away |
There's a kettlecorn shop at Southstreet Seaport. |
18:31 |
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jcamins_away |
I've never been there, but I had a class with the owner, and she brought kettlecorn to share. |
18:32 |
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jcamins_away |
It was delicious. |
18:32 |
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chris_n |
now I'm craving kettlecorn |
18:32 |
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* jcamins_away |
too. |
18:33 |
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chris_n |
wizzyrea: and since no one ever wins those, there'll be lots of popcorn and sodas to consume |
18:33 |
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* wizzyrea |
gets out the sour brite worms |
18:33 |
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jcamins_away |
wizzyrea: you don't want to share our kettlecorn? |
18:33 |
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* wizzyrea |
prefers sour brite worms for spectator food |
18:34 |
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jcamins_away |
Heh. |
18:34 |
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chris_n |
are those the gummy variety? |
18:35 |
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wizzyrea |
yes, with the sour sugar on the outside |
18:35 |
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chris_n |
pass the worms please |
18:35 |
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* wizzyrea |
passes the worms to chris_n |
18:35 |
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chris_n |
ever served them on dirt cake? |
18:35 |
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wizzyrea |
no, but that would be awesome |
18:35 |
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wizzyrea |
spud would flip. |
18:35 |
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chris_n |
yeah, quite impressive and garners a lot of comments |
18:36 |
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* jcamins_away |
isn't sure he's ever had sour brite worms. |
18:36 |
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chris_n |
they're fantastic |
18:36 |
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wizzyrea |
do you like sour things? |
18:36 |
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wizzyrea |
they really are. |
18:36 |
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jcamins_away |
I do indeed. |
18:36 |
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wizzyrea |
then you would love them. |
18:37 |
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chris_n |
when the find their way into our house, the place looks like a hen-house you just dropped a batch of bugs into |
18:37 |
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jcamins_away |
lol |
18:37 |
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* chris_n |
briefly wonders if chickens would be good at handling software bugs |
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* wizzyrea |
giggles |
18:40 |
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jcamins_away |
Wait, is tomorrow a holiday? |
18:40 |
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jcamins_away |
Someone said something about that. |
18:40 |
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wizzyrea |
in nz I think it is |
18:40 |
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wizzyrea |
well, today |
18:41 |
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mbalmer |
yes, yes, to much MySQLism in Koha. But we have time and we are patient. |
18:44 |
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chris_n |
hmm.... PHP::Interpreter |
18:45 |
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oleonard |
mbalmer: slef is trying to figure out is how to properly quote column names to ensure that future change in reserved words doesn't cause problems |
18:46 |
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mbalmer |
no one can predict the future. |
18:46 |
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oleonard |
Exactly the point. |
18:59 |
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mbalmer |
oleanard, seen my email about english title capitalization? |
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mbalmer |
I think in <h1></h1> your changes are not correct. |
19:00 |
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mbalmer |
English has title rules, you seem to ignore them. |
19:01 |
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oleonard |
mbalmer: You can see my response to a similar question on Bug 2780 |
19:01 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2780 minor, P3, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Capitalize strings consistently |
19:02 |
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jcamins_away |
mbalmer: also, don't forget that Koha is intended for libraries. |
19:02 |
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oleonard |
In short: I think a simpler rule is better |
19:02 |
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jcamins_away |
(and in libraries one only capitalizes the first word and proper names) |
19:04 |
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mbalmer |
well, if it is a conscious decision, all fine. (Though I tend to disagree) |
19:04 |
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jcamins_away |
You can always use a translation if you don't like the wording. I think most libraries do that, actually. |
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jcamins_away |
NZ thinks that color has a 'u', I think "cart" is a dumb name, etc. |
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mbalmer |
the proplem in not the wording, but the capitalization of titles, which is now wrong. |
19:06 |
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jcamins_away |
mbalmer: right, so use a translation to change it. |
19:06 |
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mbalmer |
?? |
19:06 |
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jcamins_away |
Easy peasy. :) |
19:06 |
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mbalmer |
You mean the main language should be some dialect of english that is incorrect? That sounds a bit strange to me. |
19:07 |
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jcamins_away |
mbalmer: I mean I think it is correct, but if you don't like it, you are free to change it to match how you want it to look. |
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mbalmer |
well, it is not correct. |
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francharb |
0/ all |
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mbalmer |
at least we are consistent now. |
19:10 |
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wizzyrea |
logs? |
19:10 |
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wahanui |
it has been said that logs is http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/ |
19:10 |
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wizzyrea |
ah |
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mbalmer |
Sentence case they call it. Ok, I agree. |
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oleonard |
Bye #koha |
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bye |
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Topic for #koha is now 3.6.4 and 3.4.8 and 3.2.11 Now Available || Koha Community Website - http://www.koha-community.org || General IRC meeting, 2 May 2012 at 2:00 UTC+0 |
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slef |
wahanui: Search.pm? |
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wahanui |
it has been said that Search.pm is complicated and has been the source of much contention in the wake of KohaCon with BibLibre rewriting it for Solr/Lucene instead of Zebra support. |
22:40 |
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libsysguy |
anybody have any experience with hyper-v? |
22:40 |
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slef |
wahanui: C4::Search |
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wahanui |
somebody said C4::Search was calling C4::XSLT |
22:40 |
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slef |
libsysguy: probably someone does. |
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libsysguy |
I can't get the time to configure correctly on my linux boxes |
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libsysguy |
i have to set it to UTC because windows keeps trying to set it at boot for the linux bios |
22:41 |
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libsysguy |
and its causing...problems |
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slef |
oh this is an old chestnut, not specific to hyper-v I think |
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slef |
Windows likes the hardware clock on local time, everything else likes it on UTC |
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libsysguy |
yeah…ugh |
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bag |
libsysguy: we had one experience with hyper-v and then never used it again |
22:47 |
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bag |
actually had a hell of time trying to get into it |
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bag |
so we blew it up |
22:48 |
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libsysguy |
ugh…I have to use it... |
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libsysguy |
the school gets to use ALL windows products free |
22:48 |
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libsysguy |
so its not very fiscally responsible to use vmware |
22:48 |
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bag |
well that's you're problem right there ;) |
22:49 |
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libsysguy |
yeah I know…did you know I am the ONLY friggin person on campus that knows how to use linux |
22:49 |
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libsysguy |
its very lonely |
22:49 |
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bag |
heh - well there are groups for you… like #koha :) |
22:49 |
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libsysguy |
part of the reason im leaving lol |
22:49 |
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bag |
leaving #koha? |
22:49 |
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bag |
nooooooo |
22:49 |
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libsysguy |
and yes…that is a big reason I hang out with you guys |
22:49 |
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libsysguy |
oh no |
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libsysguy |
i could never leave you guys |
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bag |
I know /me being :P |
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libsysguy |
you know…unless somebody offered me loads of cash |
22:50 |
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libsysguy |
then I might consider it :p |
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bag |
take the cash and develop on koha ;) |
22:50 |
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libsysguy |
haha exactly…take the cash to eat and then work on koha myself :p |
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slef |
Changes submitted for bug 6890 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6890 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mjr, ASSIGNED , Add 'delete reserve' to modification logging |