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hey, eythian |
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heya Amit_Gupta |
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kia ora #koha! |
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kia ora magnuse |
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bonjour alex_a |
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hi all :) |
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bbl |
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hello |
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bonjour reiveune |
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francharb |
good morning #koha |
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magnuse |
hiya francharb sophie_m stuartyeates |
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sophie_m |
hello magnuse :-) |
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magnuse |
meeting in ~3 hours, right? |
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magnuse |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ing,_4_April_2012 |
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Joubu1 |
hello #koha |
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magnuse |
hiya Joubu1 |
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* magnuse |
wanders off to have some french cheese for breakfast |
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nods |
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hello! |
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Oak |
kia ora #koha |
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Oak |
i have a very very weird problem after the hard disk of old server got bad sectors. |
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magnuse |
Oak |
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Oak |
magnuse |
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magnuse |
yay! :-) |
| 07:58 |
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Oak |
when I search the opac, whatever I search, clicking on the 1st result of page two always gives this error: http://postimage.org/image/ouqivltox/ |
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paul_p |
good morning #koha |
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magnuse |
bonjour paul_p |
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Oak |
it's not always the same book title that gives error! it just has to be the first result of page 2. |
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magnuse |
Oak: which version of koha? |
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wahanui |
which version of koha are you using? |
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kf |
morning paul_p |
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magnuse |
guten tag kf |
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kf |
hi magnuse |
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Oak |
latest I guess... just did apt-get install koha-common yesterday |
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Oak |
hello kf |
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Oak |
bonjour pastebot |
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Oak |
oh |
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Oak |
bonjour paul_p |
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magnuse |
hehe |
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magnuse |
oops! i get the same thing, Oak! |
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magnuse |
i'm on 3.6.4 |
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rangi |
there was a bug about that wasnt there? |
| 08:02 |
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magnuse |
it sounds kind of familiar... |
| 08:02 |
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magnuse |
first record on page 3 and 4 works |
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kf |
I had ap roblem with the last record on result pages once |
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kf |
that was because of the browse thing |
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kf |
it applied the wrong xslt stylesheets |
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rangi |
ah that was it |
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rangi |
i wonder if its similar |
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kf |
and you fixed it :) |
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kf |
it didn't explode like this |
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kf |
seems it's complaning about the leader? |
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magnuse |
last record of first page works for me |
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magnuse |
kf: yup |
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kf |
magnuse: yeah, that shoudl be all good now :) |
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kf |
Oak: so whatever you search, it's always the first record on the second page? |
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kf |
Oak: first record on 3rd page too? or other records on the 2nd page? |
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magnuse |
the line it complains about looks like this: my $marcrecord = MARC::File::USMARC::decode( $marcresults->[$i] ); |
| 08:07 |
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rangi |
looks like for whatever reason that is an invalid record |
| 08:08 |
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magnuse |
i have done three searches now, every first record on the second page has that error |
| 08:08 |
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magnuse |
different records each time |
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kf |
ouch |
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kf |
but perhaps easier to fix than invalid records |
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kf |
I am testing in 3.6.3 now |
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kf |
ok there |
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magnuse |
[oof] http://sksk.bibkat.no/cgi-bin/[…]q=peace&offset=20 |
| 08:11 |
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magnuse |
seems to be ok in the intranet |
| 08:15 |
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magnuse |
anyone got an installation of master with enough records to get to the second page? |
| 08:17 |
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kf |
not here. :( |
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Oak |
electricity problems |
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Oak |
so, any idea what may be wrong? |
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Oak |
magnuse? |
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wahanui |
i heard magnuse was afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza. |
| 08:19 |
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magnuse |
i get the exact same error in master |
| 08:20 |
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Oak |
so it's a bug? |
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magnuse |
Oak: no, but it sure looks like a bug! |
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Oak |
then my DB backup is at least no messed up. |
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Oak |
not* |
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magnuse |
probably not |
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Oak |
because it was on the same disk that went bad... that's why I am saying... |
| 08:21 |
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Oak |
okay good. |
| 08:21 |
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Oak |
i say it's a bug and i found it \o/ |
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magnuse |
yay! |
| 08:21 |
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magnuse |
Oak: want to report it in bugzilla too? |
| 08:21 |
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Oak |
nah |
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Oak |
others should also test it first |
| 08:22 |
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slef |
hi all |
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Oak |
3 people report same thing, then it's a bug |
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magnuse |
hiya slef |
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Oak |
hello slef :) |
| 08:22 |
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slef |
I've got a master with some records I think. What's up? |
| 08:22 |
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Oak |
when I search the opac, whatever I search, clicking on the 1st result of page two always gives this error: http://postimage.org/image/ouqivltox/ |
| 08:23 |
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magnuse |
slef: i confirmed it on master, but do a search and click on the first record on the second page |
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slef |
so opac-detail isn't parsing the MARC |
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Oak |
right click and copy the link of that record, and open it by directly pasting in another browser and the record will show properly (most most probably). |
| 08:25 |
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Oak |
it only happens when we search in the opac, go to page 2, click on 1st record. |
| 08:26 |
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Oak |
i mean to say there is nothing wrong with that specific record. |
| 08:26 |
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magnuse |
Oak: good point |
| 08:27 |
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Oak |
search a different term and, that will result in some different book on page 2, top, and click that record will give same error. |
| 08:27 |
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Oak |
well, it's a weird thing this error. |
| 08:27 |
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rangi |
i think its probably caused by the same thing that was breaking the last one |
| 08:28 |
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rangi |
that kf found |
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slef |
rangi: whatwasthat? |
| 08:28 |
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rangi |
so if you find that bug, and the patch, its probably something similar to fix it |
| 08:28 |
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rangi |
its to do with that new browse the results thingy |
| 08:29 |
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* Oak |
goes to search "browse" is system preferences |
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kf |
slef: last record on every page - detail page got parsed with wrong stylesheet |
| 08:29 |
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rangi |
if the same url works fine in another tab, its gotta be something odd with env |
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kf |
Oak: you can't turn it off sadly |
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rangi |
or session or something |
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kf |
Oak: you should really file a bug :) |
| 08:29 |
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kf |
we can help |
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slef |
kf: what's your bug? |
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Oak |
ah... i was hoping to turn it off |
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kf |
slef: rangi fixed it a while ago - it only came up in discussion because it's similar |
| 08:31 |
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Oak |
kf :) i guess i should file it then. |
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rangi |
kf: yep but we want to see how i fixed it |
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rangi |
cos it might help fix this one |
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kf |
I am already searchign for it |
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kf |
give me a sec :) |
| 08:32 |
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Oak |
second's up |
| 08:32 |
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kf |
bug 7394 |
| 08:32 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7394 critical, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, chris, RESOLVED FIXED, Broken detail page for last link from result page |
| 08:32 |
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Oak |
never mind |
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slef |
Oak: ok, confirmed your bug |
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Oak |
my bug :) |
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rangi |
thanks kf |
| 08:33 |
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Oak |
this is cool |
| 08:33 |
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kf |
Oak: I am not sure everyone is as happy about finding his own bug than you are :) |
| 08:33 |
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kf |
Oak++ |
| 08:34 |
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Oak |
well, i am happy because i helped... in some weird way |
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Oak |
:) |
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Oak |
danke! |
| 08:36 |
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magnuse |
Oak++ |
| 08:37 |
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Oak |
:) hmm. |
| 08:42 |
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Oak |
okay clicked file a bug, now, in "components" should I choose: OPAC? |
| 08:42 |
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slef |
yes |
| 08:43 |
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Oak |
and version 3.6... |
| 08:43 |
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Oak |
what is the severity level? |
| 08:44 |
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magnuse |
blocker, i'd say |
| 08:44 |
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magnuse |
and i'd set the version to master, since it's there too |
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Oak |
hm okay |
| 08:44 |
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magnuse |
it will trickle down to 3.6 when it's fixed in master |
| 08:45 |
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rangi |
yep definitely a blocker |
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Oak |
okay, and "hardware": "all", and "OS" should be "Linux"? |
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slef |
OS All but I don't think they matter much |
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* magnuse |
always leave those at the default |
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rangi |
in this case it doesnt really matter |
| 08:46 |
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Oak |
okay. this is my first time, so... :) |
| 08:47 |
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rangi |
interesting |
| 08:48 |
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kf |
note: can't repicate in 3.6.3 |
| 08:48 |
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rangi |
yep |
| 08:48 |
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kf |
so probably a problem somewhere in the patches since then |
| 08:49 |
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magnuse |
and related to the previous/next thing |
| 08:50 |
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rangi |
thats what i reckon |
| 08:50 |
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Oak |
last question, it important so asking, what should I put in summary? This OK?: Broken detail page for first link on page 2 from search result page in OPAC |
| 08:51 |
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Oak |
too long, and not clear in the end i think |
| 08:51 |
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magnuse |
Oak: looks good to me |
| 08:51 |
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Oak |
okay then |
| 08:51 |
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rangi |
yeah its totally to do with that |
| 08:51 |
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rangi |
it sets a cookie/session data and uses that |
| 08:52 |
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rangi |
http://opac.library.org.nz/cgi[…]biblionumber=6432 |
| 08:52 |
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rangi |
i bet that works fine for you |
| 08:52 |
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Oak |
okay, should I add 7394 in the list as possible fixes? |
| 08:52 |
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magnuse |
rangi: yup |
| 08:52 |
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rangi |
but errors for me |
| 08:52 |
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rangi |
right |
| 08:53 |
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Oak |
"Possible Duplicates" rather |
| 08:53 |
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magnuse |
and as far as i can see, the only part of opac-detail.pl that uses C4::Search is the pager code |
| 08:54 |
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magnuse |
"use C4::Search;" on line 102 of opac-detail.pl |
| 08:54 |
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rangi |
ok confirmed |
| 08:55 |
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rangi |
magnuse: see this line |
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rangi |
if ($session->param('busc')){ |
| 08:55 |
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rangi |
change that to |
| 08:55 |
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wahanui |
rangi: that doesn't look right |
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rangi |
'buscsdasdas' |
| 08:55 |
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rangi |
or something that wont get a result |
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rangi |
then problem goes away |
| 08:56 |
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rangi |
its totally the results browser thing doing it |
| 08:56 |
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kf |
hey drojf :) |
| 08:56 |
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drojf |
good day #koha |
| 08:56 |
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drojf |
hi kf :) |
| 08:57 |
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rangi |
how did we get that big pile of code in opac-detail.pl anyway? surely it should be in a module with a syspref to enable it? |
| 08:57 |
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rangi |
and putting a use in an if |
| 08:57 |
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rangi |
is pointless |
| 08:57 |
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rangi |
the use is evaluated anyway |
| 08:57 |
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rangi |
all the uses are done in the begin |
| 08:58 |
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rangi |
require and import you need to use |
| 08:58 |
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rangi |
</rant> |
| 08:58 |
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magnuse |
rangi: confirmed, changing "if ($session->param('busc')){" makes the records display properly, and hides the previous/next thing |
| 08:58 |
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rangi |
yeah so that code makes my head hurt |
| 08:58 |
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rangi |
its too late in the evening for me to figure out the error |
| 08:59 |
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rangi |
but at least people know where to look |
| 09:00 |
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magnuse |
there's a meeting in 1 hour, right? |
| 09:00 |
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rangi |
yep |
| 09:01 |
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magnuse |
yay |
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Oak |
electricity! |
| 09:04 |
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slef |
busc? |
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kf |
probably french |
| 09:04 |
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magnuse |
or spanish |
| 09:04 |
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slef |
buscar = search |
| 09:04 |
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slef |
or something like that |
| 09:05 |
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Oak |
okay I had clicked "Add me to the CC List" in "Possible Duplicates", but that did not look right, so pressed back, and clicked Submit bug. Here it is: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7894 |
| 09:05 |
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huginn |
Bug 7894: blocker, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Broken detail page for first link on page 2 from search result page in OPAC |
| 09:05 |
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slef |
was wondering if there's another possible meaning |
| 09:05 |
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rangi |
bonus points for enabling it to be switched off with a syspref while you are fixing it |
| 09:05 |
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rangi |
because hiding it with jquery is bad wrong and evil |
| 09:05 |
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slef |
who wants it? |
| 09:05 |
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kf |
Oak: looks all ok, I would give the other bug number as see also |
| 09:05 |
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magnuse |
well done Oak |
| 09:05 |
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rangi |
since it thrashes the db |
| 09:06 |
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kf |
Oak: it's the same piece of code - but different problem |
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slef |
rangi: and the browser and ... |
| 09:06 |
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rangi |
slef: some people like it, the next/previous thing |
| 09:06 |
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Oak |
okay thank you guys :) thanks kf, magnuse, rangi, slef... |
| 09:06 |
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rangi |
so letting them have it seems fine to me, but it should be able to be turned off |
| 09:06 |
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juan_sieira |
busc = search |
| 09:06 |
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kf |
Oak: thx for filing a bug report :) Oak++ |
| 09:07 |
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kf |
rangi: ideally I would like to see it separated... have the browse and previous next |
| 09:07 |
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Oak |
:] |
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kf |
I mean, being able to activate the previous next buttons without having the browse feature |
| 09:08 |
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rangi |
kf: yep, one step at a time :) |
| 09:08 |
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rangi |
wrapping that block in a syspref would be pretty easy |
| 09:08 |
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kf |
agreed :) |
| 09:09 |
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magnuse |
Bug 6483 |
| 09:09 |
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wahanui |
Bug 6483 is an interesting development |
| 09:09 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6483 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, salva, RESOLVED FIXED, Paging in opac-detail when coming from a search |
| 09:11 |
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magnuse |
Famous last words... Magnus Enger 2011-07-15 13:54:18 UTC I'd say get the feature in there and let's worry about the syspref later if anyone complains... |
| 09:11 |
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rangi |
consider me complaining :) |
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slef |
wahanui: forget bug 6483 |
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wahanui |
slef: I forgot bug 6483 |
| 09:11 |
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magnuse |
yeah, yeah :-) |
| 09:13 |
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* slef |
switches on KOHA_BACKTRACES |
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magnuse |
gah, i forget - when git blame gives me a short commit id like 4a2a95cc - what's the best way to find the bug it came from? |
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rangi |
git show 4a2a95cc |
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slef |
git log -1 4a2a95cc |
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slef |
TMTOWTDI |
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wahanui |
TMTOWTDI is there's more than one way to do it |
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magnuse |
thanks rangi and slef |
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magnuse |
i'll settle for for git show - saves lots of typing :-) |
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slef |
I've an ugly fix for bug 7894 |
| 09:22 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7894 blocker, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Broken detail page for first link on page 2 from search result page in OPAC |
| 09:23 |
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slef |
although I'm just going to test that some more. Why does it only fail on page 2? |
| 09:23 |
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slef |
and is it only on the first link? |
| 09:23 |
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rangi |
yep, seems to be |
| 09:25 |
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slef |
ok I can see what activates it only on page 2 |
| 09:27 |
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magnuse |
yay |
| 09:27 |
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Oak |
slef++ |
| 09:27 |
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slef |
bug 7894 |
| 09:27 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7894 blocker, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Broken detail page for first link on page 2 from search result page in OPAC |
| 09:27 |
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slef |
signoff anyone? |
| 09:29 |
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magnuse |
i can give it a shot |
| 09:29 |
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Oak |
magnuse++ |
| 09:29 |
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kf |
nice |
| 09:29 |
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kf |
if we can paul get to push after sign-off |
| 09:29 |
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slef |
I suggest testing by clicking links on page 1 and 2 |
| 09:29 |
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kf |
this will be another of our global bugs .) |
| 09:29 |
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Oak |
:) very very nice |
| 09:30 |
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kf |
found in pakistan, confirmed and tested in germany, norway and new zealand, patch from uk, tested in norway... pushed in france? :) |
| 09:30 |
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Oak |
awesome |
| 09:30 |
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rangi |
needs a qa before that |
| 09:30 |
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kf |
ah right |
| 09:30 |
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Oak |
:) |
| 09:30 |
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kf |
but - ian or marcel - even more countries! |
| 09:31 |
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magnuse |
slef: that fixed it |
| 09:32 |
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magnuse |
just testing some more edge cases before signing off |
| 09:32 |
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kf |
OaK how is the cataloging going? |
| 09:33 |
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Oak |
cataloging had a little mishap... as i accidentally found out the hard disk of server was generating bad sectors... so had to change hard disk. |
| 09:34 |
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Oak |
when hard disk changed, new hard disk also generated bad sectors after half hour. i told them it must be really messed up power supply giving wrong voltage. then changed the system, installed Debian the 3rd time, and imported DB backup yesterday. |
| 09:35 |
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Oak |
i am cataloging books one by one... and can do 20 books in 3 hours. for now. |
| 09:35 |
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dpavlin_ |
I'm getting permission denided errors from wiki when I try to replace pictrure with new one. Who should I contact? Warning: mkdir() [function.mkdir]: Permission denied in /home/wiki/web/w/includes/GlobalFunctions.php on line 2176 |
| 09:35 |
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dpavlin_ |
Warning: wfMkdirParents: failed to mkdir "/home/wiki/web/w/images/thumb/archive/20120404002807!Mysql_queries-day.png" mode 511 in /home/wiki/web/w/includes/GlobalFunctions.php on line 2179 |
| 09:35 |
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dpavlin_ |
File:Mysql queries-day.png |
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dpavlin_ |
Warning: mkdir() [function.mkdir]: Permission denied in /home/wiki/web/w/includes/GlobalFunctions.php on line 2176 |
| 09:35 |
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Oak |
will talk later when you are home though... |
| 09:35 |
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dpavlin_ |
Warning: wfMkdirParents: failed to mkdir "/home/wiki/web/w/images/thumb/archive/20120404002807!Mysql_queries-day.png" mode 511 in /home/wiki/web/w/includes/GlobalFunctions.php on line 2179 |
| 09:35 |
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* dpavlin_ |
uf. it seems much longer than in browser ;-) |
| 09:36 |
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paul_p |
kf i'm pushing, so I can take care of bug 7894 quickly ! |
| 09:36 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7894 blocker, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Broken detail page for first link on page 2 from search result page in OPAC |
| 09:36 |
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magnuse |
hm, the first record on second page is fixed but the next/previous links in the paging thing is broken |
| 09:37 |
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kf |
paul_p: rantgi is right, we need qa first - completing the cycle |
| 09:37 |
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paul_p |
kf BibLibre made nothing on this patch, so I can QA it too |
| 09:39 |
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magnuse |
is fixing the first record on second page thing quickly important enough to defer the next/previous links to another fix? |
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Brooke |
o/ |
| 09:40 |
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Oak |
Brooke! |
| 09:40 |
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magnuse |
\0 |
| 09:40 |
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* Brooke |
hugs Oak |
| 09:40 |
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slef |
paul_p: QA=RM seems like a reduction in eyeballs. |
| 09:40 |
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Oak |
:) |
| 09:40 |
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rangi |
i agree |
| 09:40 |
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rangi |
hi Brooke |
| 09:41 |
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rangi |
4.40am for you? |
| 09:41 |
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Brooke |
nope |
| 09:41 |
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Brooke |
5.40 |
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slef |
magnuse: not sure I understand you on the next/previous links. |
| 09:41 |
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* Oak |
offers Brooke coffee |
| 09:41 |
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magnuse |
slef: when i click on record number 20, the "next" link is inactive |
| 09:41 |
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Brooke |
giving me coffee without manual labour is a bad idea. |
| 09:41 |
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magnuse |
when i click on record 21 the "previous" link is inactive |
| 09:42 |
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slef |
magnuse: did it work before? :( |
| 09:42 |
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magnuse |
in kf's 3.6.3 install they work "across" the pages |
| 09:42 |
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slef |
bum |
| 09:42 |
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Oak |
:) |
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rangi |
dpavlin_: gmcharlt is the one to ask about that |
| 09:43 |
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* kf |
waves at dpavlin_ :) |
| 09:44 |
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dpavlin_ |
rangi: thanks. I pushed mail to koha-dev already |
| 09:44 |
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rangi |
dpavlin_: tickets booked for scotland? |
| 09:44 |
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dpavlin_ |
kf: higs her, if french can do it, so can I ;-) |
| 09:44 |
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dpavlin_ |
s/higs/hugs/ [urgh, too little coffee] |
| 09:45 |
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* kf |
hugs dpavlin back |
| 09:45 |
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dpavlin_ |
rangi: yap :-) accomodation pending, but we'll sleep in park if needed |
| 09:45 |
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kf |
and make sure to hug marijana from me :) |
| 09:45 |
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kf |
yay! |
| 09:45 |
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slef |
wahanui: svc api? |
| 09:45 |
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wahanui |
svc api is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ha_/svc/_HTTP_API |
| 09:47 |
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magnuse |
slef: think you can fix the links, or should i just sign off and say they need to be fixed later? |
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rangi |
dpavlin_: excellent :) eythian and I get in on the 4th .. we are staying at the Cairn Hotel which has reasonable prices |
| 09:47 |
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kf |
dpavlin_: same dates and hotel for me :) |
| 09:48 |
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mbalmer |
<- ready for the meeting. and good day! |
| 09:48 |
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dpavlin_ |
rangi, kf: thanks. We'll book same hotel than. Also arriving on 4th. |
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paul_p |
good morning early ppl ! |
| 09:50 |
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slef |
magnuse: I've an idea. Can you check records 40 and 41? |
| 09:50 |
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oleonard |
Hi all |
| 09:50 |
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rangi |
hi oleonard |
| 09:51 |
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dpavlin_ |
FWIW, I have two videos which show plack improvement http://blog.rot13.org/koha/koh[…]-cgi-vs-plack.ogv and http://blog.rot13.org/koha/koh[…]-cgi-vs-plack.ogv and one with development tools http://blog.rot13.org/koha/koha-plack-debug.ogv |
| 09:51 |
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Brooke |
hey Owen |
| 09:51 |
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magnuse |
slef: yup |
| 09:51 |
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rangi |
dpavlin_: cool |
| 09:51 |
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kf |
dpavlin_++ |
| 09:51 |
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slef |
brb, coffeemaking |
| 09:52 |
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magnuse |
slef: same thing there (with your patch): 40 does not link to 41, 41 does not link to 40 |
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druthb |
o/ |
| 09:52 |
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Brooke |
yo |
| 09:52 |
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rangi |
hi druthb |
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kf |
hi all |
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jwagner |
hi kf |
| 09:55 |
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slef |
magnuse: OK. I need to look at where else the records are used then. :-/ |
| 09:55 |
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kf |
hi jwagner |
| 09:56 |
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BobB |
hi #koha |
| 09:56 |
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Brooke |
hey bob |
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clrh |
hello |
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BobB |
hi Brooke |
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* BobB |
waves to Ruth |
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paul_p |
dpavlin++ |
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paul_p |
dpavlin++ |
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kf |
hey robin |
| 09:58 |
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eythian_home |
hiya |
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druthb |
Hi, BobB! :D |
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* eythian_home |
nips out to drop the recycling at the curb. Back soon. |
| 10:00 |
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magnuse |
dpavlin++ |
| 10:00 |
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Brooke |
#startmeeting |
| 10:00 |
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wahanui |
if there is a meeting then Brooke must want me |
| 10:00 |
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huginn |
Meeting started Wed Apr 4 10:00:05 2012 UTC. The chair is Brooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 10:00 |
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huginn |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. |
| 10:00 |
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Brooke |
Haere Mai, Welcome to the Koha Community Meeting |
| 10:00 |
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Brooke |
please introduce yourselves using #info |
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| 10:01 |
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magnuse |
#info Magnus Enger, Libriotech, Norway |
| 10:01 |
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druthb |
#info D Ruth Bavousett, ByWater Solutions, USA |
| 10:01 |
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slef |
#info MJ Ray, www.software.coop |
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dpavlin_ |
#info Dobrica Pavlinusic, FFZG, Croatia |
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kf |
#info Katrin Fischer, BZS, Germany |
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oleonard |
#info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, USA |
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paul_p |
#info Paul Poulain, BibLibre, France, current Koha Release Manager |
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rangi |
#info Chris Cormack, Catalyst IT, NZ |
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slef |
no #topic Brooke ? |
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jwagner |
#info Jane Wagner, LibLime/PTFS |
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ColinC |
#info Colin Campbell, PTFS-Europe Ltd |
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thd |
#info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City |
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fredericd |
#info Frédéric Demians, Tamil, France |
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mtj |
#info mason james, kohaaloha, nz |
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BobB |
#info BobB |
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drojf1 |
#info Mirko Tietgen, Humboldt-Universität zu Berlin, Germany |
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mbalmer |
#info Marc Balmer, Koha Support Switzerland & micro systems |
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sekjal |
#info Ian Walls, current QAM |
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mveron |
#info Marc Véron / marc veron ag allschwil Switzerland |
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BobB |
#info Bob Birchall, Calyx, Australia |
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asaurat |
#info Adrien Saurat, BibLibre |
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eythian_home |
#info Robin Sheat, Catalyst IT, New Zealand |
| 10:05 |
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Topic for #koha is now Announcements |
| 10:05 |
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Brooke |
any general announcements? |
| 10:06 |
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Topic for #koha is now Roadmap to 3.4 |
| 10:06 |
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rangi |
Submit talk proposals ... now :) |
| 10:06 |
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| 10:06 |
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Brooke |
Roadmap to 3.4 anyone? |
| 10:07 |
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Topic for #koha is now Roadmap to 3.6 |
| 10:07 |
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Brooke |
moving on to 3.6 |
| 10:08 |
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* Brooke |
guesses Chris is still asleep. |
| 10:08 |
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Topic for #koha is now Roadmap to 3.8 |
| 10:08 |
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Brooke |
3.8 anyone? |
| 10:08 |
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rangi |
paul_p? |
| 10:08 |
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wahanui |
well, paul_p is the 3.8 release manager, and is very tall, and does not like coffee. |
| 10:09 |
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kf |
#topic Roadmap to 3.8 |
| 10:09 |
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paul_p |
yep, i'm here and have things to say |
| 10:09 |
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paul_p |
* the string freeze if for friday/monday. Only bugfixes will be accepted after this date. |
| 10:09 |
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paul_p |
* the release is still expected for april 23th |
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| 10:10 |
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paul_p |
rangi = i'll send you an email requesting some help/feedback about how you made releases before |
| 10:10 |
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rangi |
paul_p: ok |
| 10:10 |
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jcamins |
Jared Camins-Esakov, C & P Bibliography Services #info |
| 10:10 |
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paul_p |
* dpavlin_ is doing an awesome job to make the staff interface Plack compliant. I think i'll mark it as experimental for 3.8 release, but will encourage ppl to use it |
| 10:11 |
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clrh |
#info Claire Hernandez, BibLibre |
| 10:11 |
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sekjal |
there are currently 17 bugs that are signed off. however, some of these are larger features |
| 10:11 |
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paul_p |
(just for those who missed the info = speed x3 with plack. that's worth it !) |
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rangi |
id warn them there are lots of gotchas still in the plack stuff |
| 10:11 |
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slef |
/me hands jcamins a #info |
| 10:11 |
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jcamins |
slef: I had a #info. |
| 10:11 |
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kmkale |
#info Koustubha Kale |
| 10:12 |
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rangi |
jcamins: it only works if its at the start of the line |
| 10:12 |
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jcamins |
Ah, no one told me that. :) |
| 10:12 |
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* kf |
hands jcamins scissors to cut them out and move them :) |
| 10:12 |
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jcamins |
#info Jared Camins-Esakov, C & P Bibliography Services |
| 10:13 |
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sekjal |
two bugs in the Needs Signoff queue are marked as blockers |
| 10:13 |
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paul_p |
sekjal = about 17 patches & larger features => OK for the fact, we agree. Did you have an idea behing saying that ? |
| 10:13 |
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dpavlin_ |
I would suggest for all developers to move to plack, and for production we still have to iron out some caching quirks |
| 10:14 |
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sekjal |
paul_p: just providing some statistical info… haven't had coffee yet |
| 10:14 |
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rangi |
yeah i would not run it in production there are still issues with things like sysprefs |
| 10:14 |
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paul_p |
dpavlin_ sounds fair. |
| 10:14 |
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rangi |
but the more developers who run it the faster they will be fixed |
| 10:14 |
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paul_p |
rangi which issues are there ? sysprefs are cached forever and, if changed, they are not taken into account ? |
| 10:14 |
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dpavlin_ |
wap, I have proposal for Koha::Persistant but will fire it koha-dev after meeting |
| 10:15 |
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rangi |
paul_p: exactly that |
| 10:15 |
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rangi |
but only cached in the thread |
| 10:15 |
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rangi |
so 2 threads can have different values |
| 10:15 |
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rangi |
things like that |
| 10:15 |
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dpavlin_ |
yap, but we can fix that using unmemoize in right places and/or invalidating our $caches |
| 10:15 |
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paul_p |
dpavlin_ with thread dying after 30 requests, won't the correct value being recalculated after at most 30 requests ? |
| 10:16 |
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mbalmer |
asynchronous notifications could help here, but I don't know if MySQL has them (where an insert or update triggers a message) |
| 10:16 |
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dpavlin_ |
paul_p: yap. but 30 requests can be a long time when site is idle |
| 10:16 |
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kf |
I think to be usable we need a way to make it react to configuratoin changes |
| 10:16 |
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rangi |
its not a mysql, or memoize thing |
| 10:16 |
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rangi |
they are set to a value in the module |
| 10:16 |
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kf |
it's not helpful when you have to guess when a switch you switched will take effect |
| 10:16 |
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paul_p |
kf agreed. Maybe some button in admin-home.pl to "restart" plack if it's possible |
| 10:16 |
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dpavlin_ |
kf: 3.8.1 I would guess :-) |
| 10:17 |
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* paul_p |
is impatient to see dpavlin_ Koha::Persistent proposal ;-) |
| 10:17 |
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rangi |
dpavlin_: and 30 requests issuing to a hard due date that is different to another .. could be messy |
| 10:17 |
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eythian_home |
paul_p: in general, band-aids like that are a bad thing compared to doing it right. |
| 10:17 |
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sekjal |
at the very least, I think a little indicator light in the About section to show if Plack/FastCGI/mod_perl are running |
| 10:17 |
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sekjal |
oh, and Zebra, too |
| 10:17 |
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paul_p |
sekjal++ |
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| 10:18 |
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kf |
eythian++ :) |
| 10:18 |
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paul_p |
about 3.8, I also want to thank oleonard for the awesome job he made on standardizing templates ! |
| 10:18 |
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paul_p |
(sekjal = another ++ if you submit a patch ;-) ) |
| 10:18 |
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paul_p |
s/templates/template vocabulary/ |
| 10:18 |
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sekjal |
paul_p: :) |
| 10:19 |
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oleonard |
I've had a slow start getting back from Hackfest, but I'm happy to keep at it |
| 10:20 |
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* dpavlin_ |
opened Bug 7895 |
| 10:20 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7895 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nengard, NEW , Add Plack/FastCGI/mod_perl server configuration and Zebra info to about |
| 10:20 |
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kf |
perhaps change assignee :) |
| 10:21 |
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Brooke |
are we all talked out on the 3.8 Roadmap stuff? |
| 10:21 |
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slef |
good work on Plack |
| 10:21 |
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kf |
lots of awesome things around the corner - sign offers and testers needed :) |
| 10:21 |
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paul_p |
Brooke I think so. |
| 10:21 |
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paul_p |
as usual... |
| 10:21 |
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slef |
I've some ideas I'll try to throw in |
| 10:21 |
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Topic for #koha is now Roles 3.10 |
| 10:22 |
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Brooke |
#topic Roles 3.10 |
| 10:22 |
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Topic for #koha is now Roles 3.10 |
| 10:22 |
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eythian_home |
msg magnuse signing off bug 7885 for you |
| 10:22 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7885 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Change filename of TransferLog suggested by packages to fit with logrotate |
| 10:22 |
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eythian_home |
oops |
| 10:22 |
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Brooke |
okie dokie going down the list |
| 10:22 |
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Brooke |
please +1 for each candidate |
| 10:22 |
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Brooke |
RM - Paul Poulain |
| 10:22 |
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druthb |
+1 |
| 10:23 |
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magnuse |
+1 |
| 10:23 |
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asaurat |
+1 |
| 10:23 |
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oleonard |
+1 |
| 10:23 |
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thd |
+1 |
| 10:23 |
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eythian_home |
+1 |
| 10:23 |
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jcamins |
+1 |
| 10:23 |
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rangi |
+1 |
| 10:23 |
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drojf1 |
+1 |
| 10:23 |
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mbalmer |
+1 |
| 10:23 |
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dpavlin_ |
+1 |
| 10:23 |
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kf |
+1 |
| 10:23 |
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ColinC |
+1 |
| 10:23 |
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fredericd |
+1 |
| 10:23 |
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BobB |
+1 |
| 10:23 |
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mveron |
+1 |
| 10:23 |
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kmkale |
+1 |
| 10:23 |
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sekjal |
+1 |
| 10:24 |
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Brooke |
okie dokie |
| 10:24 |
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Brooke |
we're keeping Paul another 6 months before he's eligible for parole. |
| 10:24 |
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Brooke |
next we've got Translation Manager |
| 10:25 |
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Brooke |
Samuel Desseaux |
| 10:25 |
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thd |
+1 |
| 10:25 |
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rangi |
fredericd: you didn't want to do ti again? |
| 10:25 |
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fredericd |
I can do it again... |
| 10:25 |
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druthb |
+1 |
| 10:25 |
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kf |
I am a bit worried because no proposal and he is not here |
| 10:25 |
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fredericd |
Who is Samuel? |
| 10:25 |
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paul_p |
another frenchie ;-) |
| 10:26 |
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fredericd |
I tried to get in touch with him without success |
| 10:26 |
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rangi |
i wonder if fredericd and Samuel could work together |
| 10:26 |
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Brooke |
sounds like a plan |
| 10:26 |
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paul_p |
(not related to BibLibre at all. I remember seeing him once at a conference) |
| 10:26 |
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fredericd |
I agree |
| 10:26 |
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Brooke |
you agree |
| 10:26 |
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Brooke |
he's absent |
| 10:26 |
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Brooke |
so I'm going to just run with co Translation Managers |
| 10:26 |
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Brooke |
so +1 for both working together |
| 10:27 |
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slef |
+1 |
| 10:27 |
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rangi |
+1 |
| 10:27 |
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thd |
+1 |
| 10:27 |
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asaurat |
+1 |
| 10:27 |
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kmkale |
I propose fredericd continues am TM |
| 10:27 |
|
kmkale |
*as |
| 10:27 |
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jcamins |
+1 |
| 10:27 |
|
Brooke |
hang on and see if this fails first |
| 10:27 |
|
Brooke |
shouldn't have two motions simultaneously. |
| 10:27 |
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| 10:27 |
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fredericd |
I don't know if Samuel is a librarian or a IT. I could help him setting up a Pootle server |
| 10:27 |
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dpavlin_ |
marijana also wanted to help out with translations also, but not as full-TM. |
| 10:27 |
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sekjal |
+1 for co-TMs…. getting more people trained up on the procedure can only help us in the future |
| 10:28 |
|
magnuse |
+1 for cooperation |
| 10:28 |
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dpavlin_ |
+1 co-TM |
| 10:28 |
|
druthb |
+1 cooperation |
| 10:28 |
|
oleonard |
+1 co-TM |
| 10:28 |
|
kf |
+1 |
| 10:28 |
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marijana |
hi to all, sorry for being late |
| 10:28 |
|
rangi |
i agree, mentoring is always good |
| 10:28 |
|
kf |
I can continue helping on the mailing list |
| 10:28 |
|
fredericd |
kf++ |
| 10:28 |
|
druthb |
kf++ |
| 10:28 |
|
kf |
I had admin rights to set up accounts - but not sure we want to keep it that way - samuel and fredericd should decide |
| 10:28 |
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paul_p |
francharb iirc, he's a geeky librarian |
| 10:29 |
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kmkale |
i would like to be mentored in translations stuff :) |
| 10:29 |
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druthb |
kmkale++ |
| 10:29 |
|
fredericd |
It's like a club now |
| 10:29 |
|
rangi |
hehe |
| 10:29 |
|
Oak |
kf++ |
| 10:29 |
|
sekjal |
Translation Team |
| 10:29 |
|
kf |
T Team? :) |
| 10:29 |
|
Brooke |
okay I'm going out on a limb and saying that the co chair thing passed |
| 10:30 |
|
* gaetan_B |
is joining late too |
| 10:30 |
|
francharb |
paul_p, ? |
| 10:30 |
|
wahanui |
i heard paul_p, was it foreseen to have a SIP working group during the hackfest? |
| 10:30 |
|
Brooke |
we have KF as an Assistant |
| 10:30 |
|
kmkale |
we are trying to set up a summer project sorts for Marathi translation here |
| 10:30 |
|
gaetan_B |
#info Gaetan Boisson, BibLibre |
| 10:30 |
|
Brooke |
did you want to sign on as an Assistant too, marijana? |
| 10:30 |
|
francharb |
0/ all |
| 10:30 |
|
* druthb |
watches Brooke out on a limb, and hides the tree-saw. |
| 10:30 |
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paul_p |
francharb yes ? |
| 10:30 |
|
francharb |
paul_p, "paul_p> francharb iirc, he's a geeky librarian" |
| 10:30 |
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dpavlin_ |
marijana: TT assistent++ |
| 10:30 |
|
rangi |
francharb: i think paul_p meant to type that to fredericd |
| 10:30 |
|
francharb |
ahah |
| 10:30 |
|
francharb |
ok |
| 10:31 |
|
paul_p |
francharb oups, sorry, I made a nick mistake |
| 10:31 |
|
fredericd |
Ok, so I propose to switch Pootle server to a dedicated VM. This way I will be able to give the keys to any volonteer, or TT exclusive member |
| 10:31 |
|
rangi |
tab completion :) |
| 10:31 |
|
marijana |
so, as dpavlin said, i would like to help |
| 10:31 |
|
rangi |
fredericd++ |
| 10:31 |
|
BobB |
kmkale marathi translation ++ |
| 10:31 |
|
rangi |
thats a great idea |
| 10:31 |
|
thd |
rangi: Samuel Desseaux had sent a message for his candidacy to the koha-devel list |
| 10:31 |
|
marijana |
but we would not be able to maintain pootle server |
| 10:31 |
|
magnuse |
marijana++ |
| 10:31 |
|
paul_p |
++ for fredericd idea |
| 10:31 |
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rangi |
thd: i know that |
| 10:31 |
|
mbalmer |
fwiw, I did a lot of SIP work. |
| 10:32 |
|
mbalmer |
but the patch is pbply to young for 3.8 (and I dunno if it is signed off yet) |
| 10:32 |
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| 10:32 |
|
Brooke |
okay so +1 for Katrin and Marijana as Translation assistants |
| 10:32 |
|
slef |
mbalmer: what's this to do with translations? |
| 10:32 |
|
drojf1 |
+1 |
| 10:32 |
|
vfernandes |
hi guys |
| 10:32 |
|
vfernandes |
i'm still having problems with Koha and encodings |
| 10:33 |
|
mbalmer |
slef, ah missed that, just saw the SIP comment earlier. |
| 10:33 |
|
kf |
+1 for marijana :) |
| 10:33 |
|
jcamins |
+1 |
| 10:33 |
|
mbalmer |
+1 |
| 10:33 |
|
slef |
+1 |
| 10:33 |
|
druthb |
+1 ! :) |
| 10:33 |
|
kmkale |
+1 |
| 10:33 |
|
dpavlin_ |
+1 |
| 10:33 |
|
thd |
+1 |
| 10:33 |
|
rangi |
+1 |
| 10:33 |
|
fredericd |
+1 for kf, marijana & samuel |
| 10:33 |
|
sekjal |
+1 |
| 10:33 |
|
ColinC |
+1 |
| 10:33 |
|
gaetan_B |
+1 |
| 10:33 |
|
marijana |
dpavlin promised to help with encondings and utf-8 problems |
| 10:33 |
|
paul_p |
+1 |
| 10:33 |
|
BobB |
vfernandes, you've arrived into a meeting. Can you ask again when its finished? |
| 10:34 |
|
vfernandes |
http://koha.ulusiada.pt/cgi-bi[…]blionumber=101874 -> tags description: if i remove the concatenation the tag description appears fine |
| 10:34 |
|
kf |
+1 for samuel and fredericd too of course |
| 10:34 |
|
vfernandes |
ok BobB... sorry! I didn't know |
| 10:35 |
|
BobB |
No probs :) |
| 10:35 |
|
Brooke |
that looks to have carried |
| 10:35 |
|
Brooke |
moving on to Documentation |
| 10:35 |
|
Brooke |
I'm going to roll general documentation and database documentation since it's both Nengard |
| 10:35 |
|
Brooke |
holler if you like voting twice, and I'll separate that. |
| 10:35 |
|
druthb |
Roll some other things on there, since she's not here to protest. |
| 10:36 |
|
druthb |
:P |
| 10:36 |
|
* Brooke |
sneaks dog grooming into documentation responsibilities... |
| 10:36 |
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thd |
+1 |
| 10:36 |
|
rangi |
+1 |
| 10:36 |
|
jcamins |
+1 |
| 10:36 |
|
sekjal |
+1 |
| 10:36 |
|
BobB |
BobB +1 |
| 10:36 |
|
dpavlin_ |
+1 |
| 10:36 |
|
Brooke |
okie dokie, hearing no objections +1 for nengard |
| 10:36 |
|
oleonard |
+1 |
| 10:36 |
|
drojf1 |
+1 |
| 10:36 |
|
marijana |
+1 |
| 10:37 |
|
fredericd |
+1 |
| 10:37 |
|
druthb |
+1 |
| 10:37 |
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dpavlin_ |
Brooke: let us have our +1 fest! |
| 10:37 |
|
kf |
+1 |
| 10:37 |
|
BobB |
these elections are a bit like those in Myanmar |
| 10:38 |
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paul_p |
BobB lol :D |
| 10:38 |
|
thd |
:) |
| 10:38 |
|
Brooke |
MY APPROVAL RATING IS 100% :P |
| 10:38 |
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paul_p |
+100 for nengard |
| 10:38 |
|
slef |
+1 |
| 10:38 |
|
ColinC |
+1 |
| 10:38 |
|
magnuse |
+1 |
| 10:38 |
|
sekjal |
perhaps this shows we're on a good track with what we want as a community |
| 10:39 |
|
BobB |
sekjal +1 |
| 10:39 |
|
kmkale |
+1 |
| 10:39 |
|
druthb |
sekjal++ |
| 10:39 |
|
kf |
sekjal +1 :) |
| 10:40 |
|
magnuse |
sekjal++ |
| 10:40 |
|
Brooke |
okie dokie, Nicole isn't allowed to stop documenting things yet :) |
| 10:40 |
|
Brooke |
moving on to Ian for QAM |
| 10:40 |
|
dpavlin_ |
+1 |
| 10:40 |
|
kf |
she put her name down herself on the wiki - so she should be ok with that :) |
| 10:40 |
|
kf |
+1 |
| 10:40 |
|
thd |
+1 |
| 10:40 |
|
oleonard |
+1 |
| 10:40 |
|
drojf1 |
+1 |
| 10:41 |
|
marijana |
+1 |
| 10:41 |
|
slef |
+1 |
| 10:41 |
|
kmkale |
+1 |
| 10:41 |
|
druthb |
+1 |
| 10:41 |
|
rangi |
+1 |
| 10:41 |
|
magnuse |
+1 |
| 10:41 |
|
ColinC |
+1 |
| 10:41 |
|
eythian_home |
+1 |
| 10:41 |
|
jcamins |
+1 |
| 10:41 |
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rangi |
glutton for punishment :) |
| 10:41 |
|
paul_p |
+1 |
| 10:41 |
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jwagner |
I have no objection, but wanted to verify that Ian was really willing -- sekjal, you had said when you changed jobs that you didn't know if you'd have time to continue |
| 10:42 |
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Brooke |
he put his name up there :P |
| 10:42 |
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| 10:42 |
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sekjal |
jwagner: I've have volunteered, yes |
| 10:42 |
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jwagner |
OK, just trying to give you an out if you wanted it :-) |
| 10:42 |
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| 10:42 |
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sekjal |
after two months on the job, I've seem to still be doing QA at a goodly rate |
| 10:42 |
|
sekjal |
though, that's really up for everyone here to decide |
| 10:42 |
|
thd |
There is no way out :) |
| 10:42 |
|
* druthb |
makes a note that if Ian decides to take another term six months from now, we should add some flowery words to the title. "Mighty King of Sanity" is a modest proposal. |
| 10:43 |
|
* Brooke |
likes the cut of druthb's jib. |
| 10:43 |
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dpavlin_ |
sekjal++ |
| 10:43 |
|
kf |
sekjal++ |
| 10:43 |
|
sekjal |
if at any time I stop doing a good job, fire me |
| 10:43 |
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druthb |
just you wait, Brooke; I'll change your tune shortly; you're up soon. |
| 10:43 |
|
Oak |
sekjal++ |
| 10:43 |
|
BobB |
+1 |
| 10:44 |
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paul_p |
about QA = I just hit save to improve the pre-commit hook & check more QA things ;-) |
| 10:44 |
|
Brooke |
moving on to Assistant Quality Assurance Managers |
| 10:44 |
|
Brooke |
Marcel de Rooy |
| 10:44 |
|
Brooke |
and |
| 10:44 |
|
Brooke |
Jonathan Druart |
| 10:44 |
|
kmkale |
paul_p++ |
| 10:44 |
|
paul_p |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]e=Tips_and_tricks => no detect ` in your patch |
| 10:44 |
|
kf |
+1 +1 |
| 10:44 |
|
oleonard |
+1 +1 |
| 10:45 |
|
magnuse |
+1 +1 |
| 10:45 |
|
paul_p |
+1 and +1 |
| 10:45 |
|
wahanui |
2 |
| 10:45 |
|
druthb |
+1 +1 |
| 10:45 |
|
kf |
lol |
| 10:45 |
|
thd |
+1 |
| 10:45 |
|
mtj |
fyi: i just added my name in the hat for QA (assistant) too |
| 10:45 |
|
thd |
+1 |
| 10:45 |
|
dpavlin_ |
+2 |
| 10:45 |
|
drojf1 |
+1 +1 |
| 10:45 |
|
jcamins |
+1 |
| 10:45 |
|
rangi |
+1 +1 |
| 10:45 |
|
marijana |
+1 +1 +1 |
| 10:45 |
|
wahanui |
3 |
| 10:45 |
|
kmkale |
+3 |
| 10:45 |
|
druthb |
! +1 for mtj, too. |
| 10:45 |
|
* dpavlin_ |
ups! +3 |
| 10:45 |
|
magnuse |
+1 for mtj |
| 10:45 |
|
thd |
+1, +1, +1 |
| 10:45 |
|
mtj |
... (and updated the wiki page) |
| 10:45 |
|
BobB |
+1 all 3 |
| 10:45 |
|
ColinC |
+1 |
| 10:45 |
|
eythian_home |
+1 |
| 10:45 |
|
jcamins |
+1 +1 +1 |
| 10:45 |
|
wahanui |
3 |
| 10:45 |
|
* druthb |
thought mtj was crazy when she met him last fall. Now she is certain of it. <3, mtj. |
| 10:46 |
|
fredericd |
+1 |
| 10:46 |
|
paul_p |
mtj great ! +1 for you then (the more QAA the best) |
| 10:46 |
|
sekjal |
+1 +1, +1 |
| 10:46 |
|
kf |
+1 for mtj |
| 10:46 |
|
drojf1 |
mtj +1 too |
| 10:47 |
|
Brooke |
right |
| 10:47 |
|
Brooke |
everyone's in |
| 10:47 |
|
Brooke |
Release Maintainers are Chris Cormack for 3.8 |
| 10:47 |
|
magnuse |
+1 |
| 10:47 |
|
Brooke |
and Jared Camins-Esakov for 3.6 |
| 10:47 |
|
kf |
+1 |
| 10:47 |
|
druthb |
+1, +1 |
| 10:47 |
|
kf |
+1 |
| 10:47 |
|
Brooke |
so +1 +1 |
| 10:47 |
|
kmkale |
+2 |
| 10:47 |
|
magnuse |
+1 +1 |
| 10:47 |
|
dpavlin_ |
+2 |
| 10:48 |
|
drojf1 |
+1 +1 |
| 10:48 |
|
oleonard |
+1 +1 |
| 10:48 |
|
fredericd |
+1 |
| 10:48 |
|
marijana |
+1 +1 |
| 10:48 |
|
BobB |
+1 * 2 |
| 10:48 |
|
ColinC |
+1 |
| 10:48 |
|
eythian_home |
+1 |
| 10:48 |
|
sekjal |
+2 |
| 10:48 |
|
thd |
+1 [+1, +1] |
| 10:49 |
|
slef |
+1 |
| 10:49 |
|
Brooke |
that carries |
| 10:49 |
|
Brooke |
moving on to Packaging Managers |
| 10:49 |
|
kf |
getting a lot done here today |
| 10:49 |
|
kf |
:) |
| 10:49 |
|
Brooke |
we've Robin and Mason |
| 10:50 |
|
kf |
+2 |
| 10:50 |
|
Brooke |
so +1 +1 for |
| 10:50 |
|
druthb |
+1 +1 |
| 10:50 |
|
slef |
in partnership or competition? ;) |
| 10:50 |
|
druthb |
Cage Match! |
| 10:50 |
|
magnuse |
+2 |
| 10:50 |
|
rangi |
+2 |
| 10:50 |
|
thd |
+1 [+1, +1] |
| 10:50 |
|
dpavlin_ |
+2 |
| 10:50 |
|
drojf1 |
+1 +1 |
| 10:50 |
|
marijana |
+1 +1 |
| 10:50 |
|
jcamins |
+1 +1 |
| 10:50 |
|
ColinC |
+1 +1 |
| 10:50 |
|
slef |
+1 +1 |
| 10:50 |
|
sekjal |
+2 |
| 10:50 |
|
Brooke |
coopetition |
| 10:50 |
|
kmkale |
yah lets have some competition. This is boring ;) |
| 10:50 |
|
oleonard |
+1 +1 |
| 10:50 |
|
kmkale |
+2 of course |
| 10:50 |
|
kmkale |
:) |
| 10:51 |
|
dpavlin_ |
kmkale: it's about communitity (err, +1) not about code! |
| 10:51 |
|
* eythian_home |
is building the 3.7 packages right now if it helps my cause any ;) |
| 10:51 |
|
kmkale |
dpavlin_: I know. Just joking :) |
| 10:51 |
|
druthb |
eythian++ |
| 10:51 |
|
kf |
eythian++ :) |
| 10:51 |
|
kf |
helps your karma |
| 10:51 |
|
kmkale |
eythian++ |
| 10:51 |
|
magnuse |
eythian++ |
| 10:51 |
|
marijana |
eythian++ |
| 10:52 |
|
Brooke |
right, that carries, too (shocker) |
| 10:52 |
|
Brooke |
moving on to Bug Wranglers |
| 10:52 |
|
oleonard |
+1 to all the bug wranglers!! |
| 10:52 |
|
Brooke |
Magnus Enger, Katrin Fischer, Dobrica Pavlinušić |
| 10:52 |
|
druthb |
+1, with a cheer. |
| 10:52 |
|
* oleonard |
can't imagine voting against a bug wrangler |
| 10:52 |
|
marijana |
+1 +1 +1 |
| 10:52 |
|
wahanui |
3 |
| 10:52 |
|
jcamins |
+1 +1 +1 |
| 10:52 |
|
wahanui |
3 |
| 10:52 |
|
drojf1 |
+1 +1 +1 |
| 10:52 |
|
wahanui |
3 |
| 10:52 |
|
kf |
+1 for magnus and dobrica :) |
| 10:53 |
|
ColinC |
+1 x 3 |
| 10:53 |
|
sekjal |
+3 |
| 10:53 |
|
eythian_home |
+3 and more for anyone else who wants in :) |
| 10:53 |
|
magnuse |
+1 for kf and dobrica |
| 10:53 |
|
BobB |
+1 * 3 |
| 10:53 |
|
thd |
+1 {[+1, +1, +1]}; |
| 10:53 |
|
* kmkale |
would like be an assistant bug wrangler |
| 10:53 |
|
fredericd |
+1 for whatever |
| 10:53 |
|
slef |
+1 +1 +1 |
| 10:53 |
|
wahanui |
3 |
| 10:53 |
|
Brooke |
oooooh |
| 10:53 |
|
Brooke |
Kmkale's in there, too |
| 10:53 |
|
BobB |
kmkale +1 |
| 10:53 |
|
slef |
wahanui: stoppit! |
| 10:53 |
|
wahanui |
slef: what? |
| 10:53 |
|
magnuse |
+1 for kmkale |
| 10:54 |
|
marijana |
kmkale +1 |
| 10:54 |
|
sekjal |
+1 |
| 10:54 |
|
thd |
+1 {[+1, +1, +1, +1]}; |
| 10:54 |
|
slef |
wahanui: 1 / 0 |
| 10:54 |
|
wahanui |
slef: excuse me? |
| 10:54 |
|
drojf1 |
lol slef |
| 10:54 |
|
kmkale |
slef: wahanui is way too good at math it seems |
| 10:54 |
|
paul_p |
well, I don't think we need to vote for this role, anyone is welcomed as bug wrangler ;-) |
| 10:54 |
|
BobB |
wahanui: you are excused this time |
| 10:54 |
|
wahanui |
...but wahanui is a bot|a repository of important and useful and accurate information or at least partially slow.... |
| 10:54 |
|
paul_p |
(or i'm missing what "bug wrangler" mean ;-) ) |
| 10:55 |
|
kf |
+1 for kmkale |
| 10:55 |
|
thd |
paul_p++ |
| 10:55 |
|
magnuse |
+1 for voting :-) |
| 10:55 |
|
Brooke |
right |
| 10:55 |
|
Brooke |
last vote |
| 10:55 |
|
Brooke |
bus driver / court jester |
| 10:56 |
|
jcamins |
+1 |
| 10:56 |
|
BobB |
brooke +1 |
| 10:56 |
|
magnuse |
sure anyone can do the bugwrangler job, but being voted into the "office" feels good :-) |
| 10:56 |
|
magnuse |
makes it feel more serious |
| 10:56 |
|
magnuse |
+1 for court jester :-) |
| 10:56 |
|
sekjal |
Brooke: you got "The Wheels on the Bus" stuck in my head before I even woke up this morning… but +1 anyway |
| 10:56 |
|
dpavlin_ |
+1 |
| 10:56 |
|
mtj |
brooke +1 |
| 10:56 |
|
drojf1 |
bug wranglers deserve their "office" and a coffee machine! |
| 10:56 |
|
druthb |
+1 for carving Brooke's name into this role in stone, including title change to "Mistress of Meetings." |
| 10:56 |
|
drojf1 |
brooke +1 |
| 10:56 |
|
rangi |
+1 |
| 10:56 |
|
ColinC |
+1 |
| 10:57 |
|
thd |
+1 for the jester who knows why the seven stars are not more than seven |
| 10:57 |
|
slef |
+1 |
| 10:57 |
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kf |
+1 |
| 10:57 |
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slef |
wahanui: +1 +27364 +1 |
| 10:57 |
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wahanui |
27366 |
| 10:57 |
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Brooke |
hooray, all the voting's out of our systems |
| 10:57 |
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Brooke |
moving on to KohaCon |
| 10:57 |
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* druthb |
votes early and often. |
| 10:57 |
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Topic for #koha is now KohaCon12 |
| 10:57 |
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kf |
more happy news |
| 10:57 |
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kf |
Ilike this meeting |
| 10:57 |
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Brooke |
#topic KohaCon12 |
| 10:57 |
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Topic for #koha is now KohaCon12 |
| 10:58 |
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slef |
riiiight |
| 10:58 |
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slef |
so submit papers please |
| 10:58 |
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slef |
links on http://koha-community.org/kohacon12/ |
| 10:58 |
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slef |
thanks to those who have reviewed papers so far: kf, Brooke... erm... |
| 10:58 |
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BobB |
deadline? |
| 10:58 |
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wahanui |
hmmm... deadline is Aug 15th I think lotsa time |
| 10:58 |
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slef |
call for papers deadline 20 Apr |
| 10:58 |
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rangi |
april 20 BobB |
| 10:58 |
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Brooke |
wahanui forget deadline |
| 10:58 |
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wahanui |
Brooke: I forgot deadline |
| 10:58 |
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slef |
wahanui: I do that too. |
| 10:58 |
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wahanui |
slef: excuse me? |
| 10:58 |
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BobB |
lotsa time :) |
| 10:59 |
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slef |
The earlier the better! |
| 10:59 |
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slef |
please be kind to the reviewers! |
| 10:59 |
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slef |
(and the overtaxed scheduler...) |
| 10:59 |
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dpavlin_ |
can we get some list of submitted papers so we don't overlap? |
| 10:59 |
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BobB |
Of course |
| 10:59 |
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druthb |
submitting papers early is good for the blood pressure of conference organizers. Been there, Done That. |
| 10:59 |
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slef |
dpavlin_: once we've got a few accepted, we'll start to post titles |
| 11:00 |
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* dpavlin_ |
submited paper at hackfest, wonders about submiting for conf part (with bias towards no) |
| 11:00 |
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paul_p |
slef at BibLibre we are discussing of the paper we will submit, don't worry, we will submit some (maybe "a lot" ;-) ) |
| 11:00 |
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thd |
It would be nice to have a conference not overlapping with "any" other conference also. |
| 11:00 |
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* slef |
rebiases dpavlin_ |
| 11:00 |
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paul_p |
s/paper/papers/ |
| 11:00 |
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slef |
The calls for registrations and sponsors will go out imminently |
| 11:01 |
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kf |
slef: will answer mails tonight |
| 11:01 |
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slef |
as soon as someone gets time, basically |
| 11:01 |
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slef |
and the first batch of invitation letters went out a few days ago but I've not yet found time to edit the web page to say that. |
| 11:01 |
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slef |
Any other things that people are interested in? |
| 11:01 |
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slef |
wahanui: kohacon12 |
| 11:01 |
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wahanui |
hmmm... kohacon12 is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ategory:KohaCon12 or Conference Tue 5 June 2012 to Thu 7th, Hackfest Sat 9th June-Mon 11th June |
| 11:01 |
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BobB |
slef +1 that was really important. |
| 11:02 |
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slef |
#link http://koha-community.org/kohacon12/ |
| 11:02 |
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thd |
How much recording equipment do you have? |
| 11:02 |
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magnuse |
slef: will there be streaming or video-after-the-fact? |
| 11:02 |
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kf |
I think mle confirmed there will be wifi? |
| 11:02 |
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paul_p |
slef how many rooms will we have ? one 150ppl large ? |
| 11:02 |
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slef |
thd: DV camera. Not sure what else. I think mle isn't here right now, so I don't know. |
| 11:03 |
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slef |
magnuse: we're still checking network capacity. |
| 11:03 |
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slef |
kf: I think so. |
| 11:03 |
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magnuse |
slef: cool |
| 11:03 |
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thd |
slef: Do you plan to record dev days also? |
| 11:03 |
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slef |
paul_p: yes, basically one room, at least for the conference. I think we might have a small side room too but my memory may be failing - mle is the best to ask about the venue. |
| 11:04 |
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magnuse |
any kind of video of talks during the hackfest would be super cool |
| 11:04 |
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dpavlin_ |
slef: audio is very important! might camera have direct link to AV? |
| 11:04 |
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slef |
thd: yes, but video helpers will be needed to pull it off. |
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* thd |
has a conflicting unrecorded conference so recording is important. |
| 11:05 |
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slef |
dpavlin_: I think so. If not, we'll record AV audio directly and resynchronise them. |
| 11:05 |
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dpavlin_ |
slef++ |
| 11:05 |
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magnuse |
slef++ |
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kf |
slef++ |
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thd |
slef++ much recording |
| 11:05 |
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kmkale |
slef++ |
| 11:06 |
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slef |
simplest will be if we can stream, because then it can be recorded and made available in one step, but I just don't know. |
| 11:06 |
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slef |
Any other question? I think I've two things I'd like to ask for your feedback on |
| 11:07 |
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slef |
1. is it OK to put sponsors logos on http://koha-community.org/kohacon12/ ? |
| 11:07 |
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* paul_p |
must head for lunch, will read logs after |
| 11:07 |
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kf |
I think if made clear it's sponsoring for the conference - ok for me |
| 11:07 |
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* oleonard |
tries to join paul_p for lunch, fails |
| 11:08 |
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dpavlin_ |
slef: would http://www.bigbluebutton.org/ help with recording? |
| 11:08 |
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slef |
2. we were considering giving sponsors extra perks at around $50 (standard) and $1200 (full monty) - are those the right price points? |
| 11:08 |
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drojf1 |
while i am all against advertisements in general i would still be ok with sponsor's logos on the conference site |
| 11:09 |
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| 11:09 |
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kf |
slef: the gap seems a bit wide to me |
| 11:09 |
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BobB |
I have a conflict of interest on this one. :) |
| 11:09 |
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rangi |
we didnt really differentiate at kohacon10 |
| 11:09 |
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thd |
slef: The right price points are the ones which meet the needs. |
| 11:09 |
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slef |
dpavlin_: I think it requires Adobe flash to send or view so I'm not sure. I think we have better options but the guy with bad eyesight isn't the best one to ask about this. |
| 11:09 |
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rangi |
everyone got their logo on the website, and that was it |
| 11:09 |
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slef |
BobB: so do we. We want to set prices people will pay. |
| 11:10 |
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BobB |
Slef do you have a budget yet? |
| 11:10 |
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BobB |
or a target for how much you want to collect? |
| 11:10 |
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rangi |
we also didnt have price points .. so i dont really have an opinion |
| 11:10 |
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magnuse |
slef: what would the full monty be? |
| 11:10 |
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thd |
slef: It seems to work in gnash but that does not qualify it. |
| 11:11 |
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slef |
BobB: I think we need at least $4000, but the budget has lots of variables even now. |
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| 11:11 |
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BobB |
Understood. Thx. |
| 11:11 |
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slef |
BobB: basically more sponsors = better conference. |
| 11:11 |
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dpavlin_ |
thd: recordings are html5 FWIW but it does require flash [stops bbb chatter from now] |
| 11:11 |
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slef |
dpavlin_: things have improved since I last looked. |
| 11:12 |
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BobB |
If you make the entry point $50 you are more likely to raise $400 than $4,000 |
| 11:12 |
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rangi |
i dunno |
| 11:12 |
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rangi |
our entry point was $1 |
| 11:13 |
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kf |
rangi: was it diddicult to get all expenses covered? |
| 11:13 |
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slef |
magnuse: full monty = website, programme, things in the room, things in the pack, logo up big, something else I forgot |
| 11:13 |
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rangi |
i think the companies involved have more ethics than that |
| 11:13 |
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thd |
slef: both rangi and BobB are correct :) |
| 11:13 |
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BobB |
OK, well just so we all know what the target is. |
| 11:13 |
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rangi |
and know what a reasonable amount is |
| 11:14 |
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BobB |
But (conflict aside) I'm not in favour of favours and don't expect any |
| 11:14 |
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thd |
slef: Framing by expectation is important but turning away anything offered is bad. |
| 11:14 |
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magnuse |
i don't think slef said anything about a minimum amount? |
| 11:14 |
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kmkale |
we had VPM to fall back on for everything |
| 11:14 |
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rangi |
kf: nope |
| 11:14 |
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kf |
so perhaps we should keep it more open? |
| 11:14 |
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rangi |
i agree with BobB |
| 11:14 |
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kf |
don't have different levels? |
| 11:14 |
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slef |
No, we'll accept anything as sponsorship. Just more perks at those price points. We're also going to have a class of sponsors for people who give us stuff we need. |
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kf |
slef: what is a class of sponsors? |
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slef |
kf: standard, full monty... |
| 11:15 |
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magnuse |
bronze silver gold kind of thing |
| 11:15 |
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slef |
kf: basically a package of things. |
| 11:15 |
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kf |
ah |
| 11:15 |
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slef |
kf: magnuse has it right |
| 11:16 |
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* magnuse |
will sponsor with the same amount as for kohacon10 and 11, and does not expect anything more than being listed somewhere |
| 11:16 |
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slef |
I think so far we have two sponsors in that class. We're trying to keep that one as small as we can, so we'd like to get the call for sponsors out ASAP |
| 11:17 |
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kf |
hm |
| 11:17 |
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Brooke |
are we all talked out on this? |
| 11:17 |
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kf |
we have some bigger companies and some smaller - which will give the bigger ones bigger representation I think |
| 11:17 |
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rangi |
yeah im not mad keen on the perk thing |
| 11:18 |
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rangi |
but maybe thats just me |
| 11:18 |
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slef |
so the feedback I'm taking back is that the gap is too wide? |
| 11:18 |
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kf |
I am not totally sure it fits our structure |
| 11:18 |
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thd |
Brooke: We will be talked out when KohaCon is fully funded ;) |
| 11:18 |
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slef |
I really expect to have only 3 going for the full monty |
| 11:18 |
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Topic for #koha is now Old Business |
| 11:19 |
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Brooke |
#topic Old Business |
| 11:19 |
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Topic for #koha is now Old Business |
| 11:19 |
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Brooke |
Don't think there are actions from last meeting |
| 11:19 |
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Brooke |
lemme know if I'm wrong |
| 11:19 |
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rangi |
you could just do the #topic thing and not change it twice if you want to save keystrokes |
| 11:19 |
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thd |
There is an issue from last meeting |
| 11:20 |
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thd |
There had been mention of KohaCon 2012 specific IRC meetings. |
| 11:20 |
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slef |
oh yeah |
| 11:20 |
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slef |
didn't mle suggest a date+time? |
| 11:20 |
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thd |
Are there any? |
| 11:21 |
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* oleonard |
has to take kids to school |
| 11:21 |
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oleonard |
Bye all |
| 11:21 |
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oleonard |
bbl |
| 11:21 |
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thd |
slef: mle suggested 19.00 UTC on Wednesdays. |
| 11:21 |
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thd |
if I recall correctly |
| 11:22 |
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slef |
thd: that's fine with me. How about others? |
| 11:22 |
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kf |
slef: is there a need to start meeting? or waiting for the deadline? |
| 11:23 |
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slef |
kf: you mean not meet until after 20 April? |
| 11:23 |
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kf |
I am not sure - that's why I am asking |
| 11:23 |
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kf |
:) |
| 11:23 |
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kf |
so first meeting today, or on 11th, 18th? |
| 11:23 |
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slef |
thd: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-03-21-18.00.html says 18.00 Wednesdays... could mean 17 or 18 UTC. |
| 11:24 |
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thd |
slef: meetings with kmkale were sparsely attended as a point of information. |
| 11:24 |
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slef |
thd: I remember. |
| 11:24 |
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slef |
kf: let's say 11th, to give people enough notice? Also to see if we can start scheduling papers a bit by then. |
| 11:24 |
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kf |
ok :) |
| 11:24 |
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Brooke |
k that's resolved then |
| 11:25 |
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Brooke |
#info KohaCon12 meeting 11 April 18.00 UTC |
| 11:25 |
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Brooke |
#topic Miscellaneous |
| 11:25 |
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Topic for #koha is now Miscellaneous |
| 11:25 |
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thd |
s/19.00 UTC/18.00 UTC/ |
| 11:25 |
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Brooke |
I think dpavlin's plack stuff might be helpful here |
| 11:26 |
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BobB |
Brooke: LOL |
| 11:26 |
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dpavlin_ |
I have demo of new development tools at http://blog.rot13.org/koha/koh[…]-cgi-vs-plack.ogv (write-up pending for koha-dev) it's on https://github.com/dpavlin/Koha for people who want to try it *right now* |
| 11:27 |
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dpavlin_ |
AARGH! Wrong video: http://blog.rot13.org/koha/koha-plack-debug.ogv |
| 11:28 |
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kf |
dpavlin_++ for making videos! |
| 11:28 |
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slef |
dpavlin_: good work. (I'll persuade you to gitorious one day) |
| 11:29 |
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dpavlin_ |
slef: I can push it to gitourious also, no problem :-) |
| 11:29 |
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druthb |
dpavlin++ |
| 11:29 |
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dpavlin_ |
github is mostly for visibility, I still prefer my own git server ;-) |
| 11:29 |
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Brooke |
#topic Meeting Time |
| 11:29 |
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Topic for #koha is now Meeting Time |
| 11:29 |
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mtj |
for the win, i have setup a realtime repo for Koha, on github too , https://github.com/Koha-Community |
| 11:30 |
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mtj |
https://github.com/Koha-Commun[…]ha/commits/master |
| 11:30 |
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Brooke |
we're due for a good olde fashioned 0200 UTC |
| 11:30 |
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dpavlin_ |
mtj++ |
| 11:30 |
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mtj |
slef: i plan to sort a gitorious Koha repo too... :) |
| 11:30 |
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magnuse |
mtj++ |
| 11:30 |
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slef |
mtj: why not use the one that's there? |
| 11:30 |
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Brooke |
so 2 May (Wednesday) 02.00 UTC |
| 11:31 |
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jcamins |
+1 |
| 11:31 |
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slef |
mtj: I update it once in a blue moon. Help welcome ;) |
| 11:31 |
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magnuse |
0 (will be sleeping) |
| 11:31 |
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kf |
sleeping too |
| 11:31 |
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rangi |
+1 |
| 11:31 |
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mtj |
slef: its *just* an alternative... no offensive intended ;) |
| 11:31 |
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druthb |
+1 |
| 11:32 |
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drojf1 |
sleeping then or in the day. boss won't allow that, so no meeting for me |
| 11:32 |
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sekjal |
+1 |
| 11:32 |
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mtj |
slef: oops sorry, you meant why not use *your* existing gitorious repo? |
| 11:33 |
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mtj |
slef: ok, a good suggestion from you |
| 11:33 |
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Brooke |
#info 2 May 02.00 UTC is the time of the next meeting |
| 11:33 |
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Brooke |
#endmeeting |
| 11:33 |
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Topic for #koha is now 3.6.4 and 3.4.8 and 3.2.11 Now Available || Koha Community Website - http://www.koha-community.org || General IRC meeting, 4 April 2012 at 10:00 UTC+0 |
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huginn |
Meeting ended Wed Apr 4 11:32:41 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 11:33 |
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huginn |
Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-04-04-10.00.html |
| 11:33 |
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huginn |
Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]2-04-04-10.00.txt |
| 11:33 |
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huginn |
Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]04-10.00.log.html |
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magnuse |
yay, good meeting |
| 11:33 |
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* eythian_home |
grumbles about broken test cases causing package builds to fail |
| 11:33 |
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kf |
lots of +1 |
| 11:34 |
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slef |
eythian_home++ |
| 11:34 |
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chris_n |
g'morning #koha |
| 11:34 |
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jcamins |
eythian_home: which tests are broken? |
| 11:34 |
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chris_n |
morning wisdom: Nothing is impossible for the man who doesn't have to do it himself. - Weiler's law |
| 11:34 |
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slef |
t/Heading_MARC21.t |
| 11:34 |
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jcamins |
slef: ah. |
| 11:34 |
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sekjal |
jcamins: i keep getting one in t/db_dependent/Acquisitions.t |
| 11:35 |
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jcamins |
Kind of odd that I have problems with neither of those. |
| 11:35 |
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pastebot |
"eythian" at 121.73.2.230 pasted "Failing test" (12 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/331 |
| 11:35 |
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* chris_n |
realizes that he not only missed his 10pm appointment last evening, but the meeting this morning as well |
| 11:35 |
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eythian_home |
jcamins: that one |
| 11:35 |
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slef |
sekjal: is that the missing libreadonly-perl and libdatetime-format-dateparse-perl build-depends that I patched yesterday or so? |
| 11:35 |
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jcamins |
Ohhh. |
| 11:36 |
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jcamins |
Yeah, rangi and I discussed a solution. |
| 11:36 |
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slef |
oh I've got a solution. Who wants it? |
| 11:36 |
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slef |
as in: what bug? |
| 11:36 |
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sekjal |
slef: that patch is now Passed QA. not sure it's related to failing tests, though |
| 11:36 |
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eythian_home |
sekjal: I failed it |
| 11:36 |
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slef |
bug 7284 |
| 11:36 |
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wahanui |
bug 7284 is the first step to making that happen. |
| 11:36 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Authority matching algorithm improvements |
| 11:37 |
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rangi |
no there is a db connection created in the begin block |
| 11:37 |
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slef |
damnit |
| 11:37 |
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rangi |
it can be in the init sub instead |
| 11:37 |
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slef |
yeah, that's the patch I did |
| 11:37 |
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rangi |
and then the tests will pass |
| 11:37 |
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rangi |
cool, stick it on 7284 as a follow up i reckon |
| 11:38 |
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jcamins |
Excellent, I don't have to rewrite your patch. :) |
| 11:38 |
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pastebot |
"slef" at 86.54.115.53 pasted "patch for the failing C4::Heading::UNIMARC" (48 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/332 |
| 11:38 |
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rangi |
right, time to sleep |
| 11:38 |
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eythian_home |
yeah, DB on a BEGIN block is pretty terrible when it comes to testing. |
| 11:39 |
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kf |
good night rangi |
| 11:39 |
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Oak |
good night rangi :) |
| 11:39 |
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* eythian_home |
will sleep too. Will give it a few days or so and try to rebuild the packages then. |
| 11:39 |
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slef |
jcamins: shall I stick it on 7284? |
| 11:39 |
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Oak |
good night Mr Robin |
| 11:39 |
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jcamins |
slef: yes please. |
| 11:39 |
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jcamins |
I will sign off. |
| 11:40 |
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slef |
Attached bug-7284-fix-package-build-problem-move-BEGIN-into.patch |
| 11:40 |
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BobB |
good night all |
| 11:41 |
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magnuse |
g'night BobB |
| 11:41 |
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sekjal |
going go get started on my day. later, #koha! |
| 11:41 |
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BobB |
:) zzzzZZZZZ |
| 11:41 |
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Oak |
good night BobB |
| 11:42 |
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* magnuse |
puts in a bid for kohacon in northern norway some time in the future: http://vimeo.com/39078923 |
| 11:43 |
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druthb |
+1! |
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| 11:44 |
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asaurat |
+1 :) |
| 11:44 |
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drojf1 |
magnuse: yes! |
| 11:44 |
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magnuse |
:-) |
| 11:45 |
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* druthb |
would offer to move there temporarily (say, 6 months)...to help organize, you know...yeah. and if her passport gets lost and she can't come back to the US....oh well. |
| 11:45 |
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magnuse |
hehe |
| 11:45 |
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jcamins |
slef: do you mind if I amend your patch to move Heading_MARC21.t to t/db_dependent ? |
| 11:45 |
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drojf1 |
throw in a sami koha day and there may be extra funding somewhere :) |
| 11:45 |
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magnuse |
:-) |
| 11:46 |
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slef |
jcamins: not at all |
| 11:47 |
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jcamins |
slef: okay, will do. |
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mbalmer |
paul_p? |
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wahanui |
i guess paul_p is the 3.8 release manager, and is very tall, and does not like coffee. |
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paul_p |
mbalmer yep ? |
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mbalmer |
see privmsg.. |
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paul_p |
mbalmer did you notice the http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]i/Tips_and_tricks page ? I've added a check for ` that will prevent me from pushing patches with ` ;- |
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mbalmer |
ah, cool. |
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dpavlin_ |
paul_p++ |
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mbalmer |
indeed. |
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mbalmer |
paul_p++ |
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paul_p |
(also just added for tab checker) |
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paul_p |
git++ |
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paul_p |
( i'm in love with git, don't tell my wife :D ) |
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paul_p |
how the hell can you bypass a git am that has a hook that fails... the --no-verify argument seems to work for git commit only :' |
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uwe |
Greetings; i know it seems im asking about the obvious, but should i use 3.4 or 3.6 ? this page: http://koha-community.org/download-koha/ links to 3.4 ; so i'm not sure if this page needs update or if this is indeed the recommendation when using .deb ? |
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magnus_lunch |
uwe: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_Debian_Squeeze redirects to "Koha 3.6 on Debian Squeeze" :-) |
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magnus_lunch |
so if you install the stable packages you will get 3.6.x |
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uwe |
thank you magnuse ; i would suggest to change the link instead of redirecting. the url in the browser is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_Debian_Squeeze . |
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magnuse |
uwe: yeah, good point |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #695 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7885 - Change filename of TransferLog suggested by packages to fit with logrotate <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6bb5befd401a5ce32> / Bug 7850 - Fix values for hidden in subfields of 952 + maxlength in NORMARC frameworks <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]82ce8513f14157a5e> / Bug 7858 - Missing packages from ins |
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uwe |
another note, the document suggest the usage of sudo at some point; this is not correct for a fresh installation of debian, sudo is not included by default |
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uwe |
user needs to be root in debian; unless sudo is installed AND user logged in is configured to use sudo |
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uwe |
i will create an account and try to change that; just thought to give you heads up |
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Oak |
yup, sudo is not installed by default (I used the xfce, lxde cd image). you need to do 'su' to be root. |
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* Oak |
talking about Deboan 6.04 Squeeze |
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oleonard |
paul_p: I see your comment on Bug 7876. I didn't realize this was grounds for failing QA now |
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Oak |
oh well |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7876 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Add ids to divs and spans with ids in opac-user.tt |
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oleonard |
paul_p: Does it only check changed lines? |
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kf |
fix it? :) |
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kf |
ah scrolling broken again, sorry |
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paul_p |
oleonard yep, it checks only changed lines. |
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paul_p |
the tricky thing being that sometimes you change something to a line that HAS a tab, and my hook complain. I hesitated to fail QA for that, but I think it will force us to go in the right direction instead of having many trailing tabs. |
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paul_p |
(I plan to send a mail to koha-devel about that) |
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kf |
hm |
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kf |
have you seen the automated whitepsace fix from rangi's blog? |
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kf |
I use that |
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kf |
it removes them automagically |
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kf |
on apply |
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uwe |
I'm unable to edit the wiki; i also did not get a confirmation via email :S |
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kf |
whitespace? |
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kf |
wahanui has the link somewhere |
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wahanui |
kf: i'm not following you... |
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kf |
paul_p: http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]patches-with-git/ |
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* paul_p |
on phone |
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wizzyrea |
whitespace is http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]patches-with-git/ |
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wizzyrea |
whitespace? |
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wahanui |
whitespace is http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]patches-with-git/ |
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kf |
hi wizzyrea :) |
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wizzyrea |
mornin :) |
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Oak |
morning wizzyrea :) |
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* oleonard |
wonders why his git hook isn't working |
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oleonard |
-rwxrwxr-x 1 oleonard 2267 2012-04-04 09:42 pre-commit |
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oleonard |
Well, the check for spaces is working now anyway... |
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* oleonard |
suspects many of his 2780 patches will fail because of this |
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jcamins |
I'd like to set up the pre-apply hook. |
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jcamins |
I guess I now know how to test it. :) |
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oleonard |
I wish the hook would output a line number with the error |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #695: SUCCESS in 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/695/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* wizzyrea: Bug 7888 - Permission for "change password" button in circ toolbar should be "borrowers" instead of "staffaccess" |
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jenkins_koha |
* Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7864: Reintroduce list of subscribers to a serial alert message |
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jenkins_koha |
* Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7864: Little changes to the display |
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jenkins_koha |
* dpavlin: Bug 7860 - /virtualshelves/addbybiblionumber.pl plack scoping |
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jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Bug 7858 - Missing packages from install_misc/ubuntu.packages |
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jenkins_koha |
* magnus: Bug 7850 - Fix values for hidden in subfields of 952 + maxlength in NORMARC frameworks |
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jenkins_koha |
* magnus: Bug 7885 - Change filename of TransferLog suggested by packages to fit with logrotate |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7888 minor, P4, ---, wizzyrea, Pushed to Master , Permission for "change password" button in circ toolbar should be "borrowers" instead of "staffaccess" |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7864 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Reintroduce list of subscribers to a serial alert message |
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wizzyrea |
oh! |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7860 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , /virtualshelves/addbybiblionumber.pl plack scoping |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7858 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Missing packages from install_misc/ubuntu.packages |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7850 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Fix values for hidden in subfields of 952 + maxlength in NORMARC frameworks |
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wizzyrea |
did that get pushed? |
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wizzyrea |
lol |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7885 normal, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Master , Change filename of TransferLog suggested by packages to fit with logrotate |
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oleonard |
Yeah, sorry that took so long wizzyrea ;) |
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wizzyrea |
lol |
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* wizzyrea |
is a bit shocked actually. |
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wizzyrea |
oleonard++ sekjal++ |
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wizzyrea |
thanks :) |
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wizzyrea |
@later tell chris_n: bug 7888 is probably a good candidate for pulling back into 3.6 |
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huginn |
wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. |
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paul_p |
oleonard I think it's a little bit tricky to get the line number in the file. |
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* oleonard |
will know now to check tabs when editing |
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chris_n |
fwiw Internet Archive uses solr |
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jcamins |
gmcharlt: on the subject of solr, let me know when I need to pull new changes for DOM indexing. |
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gmcharlt |
jcamins: sure - should be later this afternoon |
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jcamins |
Thanks. |
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* chris_n |
gets IA's reader up and running in his sandbox |
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oleonard |
paul_p: Your hook definitely flags whitespace errors for lines which have not been changed |
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paul_p |
oleonard really ? yikes... |
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* paul_p |
check |
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oleonard |
paul_p: Try with catalogue/detail.tt |
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paul_p |
oleonard could you remind me the bug number ? |
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oleonard |
I'm working on Bug 2780, but I'm wondering if you try doing a test edit on catalogue/detail.tt if you'll see the same warnings as me |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2780 minor, P3, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Capitalize strings consistently |
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paul_p |
testing wit 7876 |
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oleonard |
Oh wait paul_p, I think maybe my editor has screwed something up |
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oleonard |
Let me check again |
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paul_p |
oleonard don't worry, i'll use http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]patches-with-git/ ! |
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paul_p |
it doesn't fix tab errors, but if you use tab-in-indent treats a tab character in the initial indent part of the line as an error (not enabled by default). |
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paul_p |
and tabwidth=<n> tells how many character positions a tab occupies; this is relevant for indent-with-non-tab and when git fixes tab-in-indent errors. The default tab width is 8. Allowed values are 1 to 63. |
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paul_p |
it fixes automatically all errors !!! |
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paul_p |
(will do that with tabwidth=4) |
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paul_p |
just tested, it works like a charm ! |
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paul_p |
so, switching 7876 back to passed QA ;-) |
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paul_p |
kf++ (for pointing rangi's blog) |
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paul_p |
rangi++ |
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kf |
paul_p++ :) |
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paul_p |
oleonard so you can forget the space problem for bug 2780, the hook will take care of it |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2780 minor, P3, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Capitalize strings consistently |
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wizzyrea |
kf++ for all of those spans on the xslt view |
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kf |
lol, again? |
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wizzyrea |
yes! |
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wizzyrea |
because you keep making my life better. |
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kf |
paul_p: commented on 7619 :) |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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kf |
aaaw |
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paul_p |
bug 7619 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7619 blocker, P2, ---, paul.poulain, Needs Signoff , 3M self checkout don't work in France |
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kf |
if you ever want to hide some column from the item table... I added ids there too ;) |
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paul_p |
kf++ |
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kf |
and to all tabs |
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tcohen |
hi #koha, how do I push a git branch (from a k-c.org clone) into my personal git server? |
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jcamins |
Woohoo! |
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jcamins |
kf++ |
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jcamins |
tcohen: git push remote branch |
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kf |
and oleonard++ wrote some example code about how to hide them |
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wizzyrea |
I kno! |
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wizzyrea |
so exciting. |
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kf |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
wait, which item table |
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tcohen |
jcamins: i do git push git-unc-pushbranch origin/3.6.x |
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wizzyrea |
on the detail? |
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wizzyrea |
omg! |
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tcohen |
it says everything is ok |
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wizzyrea |
or on add items |
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wizzyrea |
bc that's really what I want :P |
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tcohen |
but i cannot seem to do a checkout of that branch |
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tcohen |
i assume git push creates the branch if it doesn't exist? |
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jcamins |
tcohen: you're doing git checkout git-unc-pushbranch/origin/3.6.x? |
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slef |
depends on configuration but it can |
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jcamins |
I think you're better off just pushing a 3.6.x branch. |
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tcohen |
jcamins: it says the branch doesn't exist |
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jcamins |
tcohen: right, you have to create a 3.6.x branch. |
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jcamins |
git checkout -b 3.6.x origin/3.6.x |
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jcamins |
git push git-unc-pushbranch 3.6.x |
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jcamins |
If you're just trying to make an exact copy of git.k-c.org, don't use git push, use git clone. |
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tcohen |
i want to have my server to follow git.k-c.org |
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tcohen |
as some of you use gitorious or github |
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jcamins |
tcohen: then use git clone. |
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jcamins |
Use git push to push your own branches. |
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tcohen |
yeah, i can't make that part work, pushing my branches into my git server |
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slef |
tcohen: sorry to be blunt but have you read man git-push? |
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tcohen |
yeap |
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tcohen |
i think we have a faulty setup |
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jcamins |
tcohen: in that case, you shouldn't be trying to push origin/3.6.x |
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tcohen |
i did that just for testing |
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jcamins |
I'm pretty sure that won't ever work right. |
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jcamins |
Though i could be mistaken. |
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jcamins |
I'd do something like "git checkout -b uploadtest origin/master && git push remote uploadtest" |
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jcamins |
Also, you know that you have to have SSH write access? |
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slef |
I'd expect something like "git push remote branch:branch" but I've not read the man page recently. |
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jcamins |
slef: that may be it. |
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jcamins |
slef: ":branch" is optional if you're using the same name. |
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jcamins |
tcohen: I don't really see how you could have a faulty setup. All you need is SSH. |
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tcohen |
jcamins: you're right |
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tcohen |
i needed a local branch following 3.6.x for things to work |
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tcohen |
git push remote origin/3.6.x wouldn't work |
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tcohen |
git checkout -b uploadtest origin/3.6.x && git push git-unc uploadtest did |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7876 - Add ids to divs and spans with ids in opac-user.tt <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c0cef20fe5868be7e> |
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tcohen |
and also, i was not confident with our gitosis setup |
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tcohen |
but it seems to work ok |
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reiveune |
bye |
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jcamins |
gitosis could easily be set up wrong, but for pushing, I think you just use SSH? |
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tcohen |
yeap |
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tcohen |
i was all wrong |
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tcohen |
i think i'll re-read progit today |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #696 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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tcohen |
thanks jcamins |
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jcamins |
You're welcome. |
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talljoy1 |
Anyone here know what setting the second indicator for a title in Koha does for results display? (i.e 245 05$a"The Silver.....) This doesn't seem to affect the order of display in the search results (still alphabetical "The Silver Phantom" comes before "Silver and...") |
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talljoy1 |
i suppose that is a question for those who use MARC. ;-) |
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jcamins |
It doesn't do anything. |
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kf |
what jcamins said |
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jcamins |
I have a great rant on how lousy GRS-1 is for this very reason. :) |
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kf |
it should use them for sorting, but it doesn't |
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talljoy1 |
heh |
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kf |
jcamins: tell me dom is better for this very reason? |
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talljoy1 |
so it is clean cataloging, but serves no purpose. |
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* kf |
has hope |
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kf |
because we have this data |
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kf |
and it's sad not to sue it |
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kf |
use |
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jcamins |
Well, it's not used by Koha at the moment. |
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gaetan_B |
bye! |
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SJeffery |
And sadly, Koha is probably the best ils for using marc data |
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slef |
whysthat sad? |
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SJeffery |
Well, sad in that there are still a number of annoying areas where it is lacking like that, but even then it is still the best out there. |
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wizzyrea |
! |
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wizzyrea |
<3 |
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wizzyrea |
nice to hear we're the best at something. :) |
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jcamins |
Also, our analytics support? |
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jcamins |
Really pretty darn awesome. |
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SJeffery |
Though if my evil plans come to fruition many of those things will be corrected |
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SJeffery |
The fact that there is ANY analytics support is pretty awesome |
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* wizzyrea |
likes evil plans |
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SJeffery |
Several of the sales reps from the large ils vendors had absolutely no clue what I was talking about when I asked about analytics support. They would then get back to me to say that they could definitely add that for five or six figures and several years time. |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 2780 - Capitalize strings consistently (Acquisitions pages) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]892a950bc504e9ec6> / Bug 2780 - Capitalize strings consistently (miscellaneous) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f3df8074de1c41127> / Bug 2780 - Capitalize strings consistently (Tools) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitw |
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libsysguy |
does someone have an example of a correctly tabbed patch |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: most of them are. What editor do you use? |
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libsysguy |
emacs |
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libsysguy |
and it is set to tab to 4 spaces |
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libsysguy |
paul_p said he was seeing 8 |
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libsysguy |
so im confused |
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paul_p |
i'm here ! |
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libsysguy |
w00t |
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libsysguy |
hey, ok so im a little confused |
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jcamins |
(setq indent-tabs-mode nil)? |
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paul_p |
libsysguy = when I apply your patches, my git automagically replace all tabs by 4 spaces. And the resulting indenting is ugly. |
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paul_p |
(did I say I love git ?) |
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paul_p |
I get things like: |
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paul_p |
if (bla) { |
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paul_p |
$var=bla; |
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paul_p |
$somethingelse=bla; |
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paul_p |
somecode; |
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paul_p |
another; |
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paul_p |
alast one; |
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paul_p |
} |
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paul_p |
(that's just an example, "another" and $var=bla are not correctly placed |
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libsysguy |
so it doesn't look like it does in the diff? |
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paul_p |
) |
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paul_p |
libsysguy nope, because the diff has a tab, that is represented as 8 spaces |
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libsysguy |
weird |
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paul_p |
(had you set 2 tabs, that would have been OK in fact, bug ugly on the diff) |
| 16:08 |
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paul_p |
the best, anyway, is to use only 4 spaces. which emacs should be able to do |
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libsysguy |
I think i can just do what jcamins said |
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libsysguy |
and just kill of tabs in file compression |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: check that doesn't change *all* tabs, though. |
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jcamins |
kf: sorry, missed your question earlier. Yes, DOM will allow us to use 245ind2. |
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kf |
jcamins: dom++ :) |
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kf |
oh |
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jcamins |
gmcharlt: will your DOM implementation take advantage of 245ind2? |
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kf |
I wanted to test that |
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jcamins |
gmcharlt is working on some follow-ups. |
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SJeffery |
What is the status of the dom project? |
| 16:11 |
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slef |
do branches on git.koha-community.org ever get deleted? Each extra HEAD causes extra objects to be downloaded into a shallow clone. |
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kf |
SJeffery: waiting for sign-off |
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jcamins |
SJeffery: gmcharlt has an implementation, which I tested and offered feedback on, and revised patches should be following. |
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kf |
jcamins: it would probably fix the problems I see with indexing different classifications in 084 too.. *sigh* |
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SJeffery |
kf: So it did not make it into 3.8? |
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kf |
SJeffery: there is still a chance |
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kf |
it does not touch strings |
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SJeffery |
*crosses fingers and toes* It would make my development a lot easier if it made it in:D |
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kf |
SJeffery: you can help with testing |
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kf |
the patch is in git |
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kf |
the more eyes the better |
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SJeffery |
testing? You mean you want me to TRY to break stuff? |
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kf |
SJeffery: exactly :) |
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kf |
and I bet jcamins has some suggestions what you can try to do that |
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jcamins |
@marc 084 |
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huginn |
jcamins: A classification number from a scheme not covered by one of the other number fields. The field should not be used for classification numbers assigned from a source for which a subfield $2 source of number code would not be assigned. (Repeatable) [a,b,2,6,8] |
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jcamins |
Yes. |
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jcamins |
more_eyes++ |
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wizzyrea |
SJeffery: we love it when people try to break stuff. |
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slef |
wizzyrea: just not so much when they succeed, eh? ;-) |
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SJeffery |
Well as soon as I finish cataloging books in Farsi and Afrikaans I will take a stab at it |
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jcamins |
kf: ah, yeah, we could do something like I want to do with relator terms: rel-edt:Camins or cn-sudoc:whatever |
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wizzyrea |
what people don't know is that bug reports are challenges that feed our curiosity |
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SJeffery |
Wait a minute, I don't know either of those languages...might be a while:) |
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kf |
jcamins: you are genious |
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jcamins |
SJeffery: Afrikaans should be pretty easy. |
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kf |
jcamins: I will ask Uli to index $2 too |
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kf |
ah... not |
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kf |
it won't work |
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kf |
because they have different classifications in the same record... |
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kf |
not necessary the same field |
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jcamins |
kf: not with GRS-1. |
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* kf |
sniffs |
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wizzyrea |
slef: i'm looking at your dev for checkout search |
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wizzyrea |
checkout *time search |
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wizzyrea |
I don't really like how it works - I think I'd rather see more results than just one. Does it work for your libraries? |
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wizzyrea |
i mean, in your data it brings back the right item enough of the time to be helpful? |
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wizzyrea |
it's not an indictment, i'm really curious |
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wizzyrea |
afk just a min |
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slef |
wizzyrea: I'd rather see more results but I don't really understand how to get a useful listbox in circulation. |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #696: SUCCESS in 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/696/ |
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jenkins_koha |
kyle: Bug 7876 - Add ids to divs and spans with ids in opac-user.tt |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7876 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Add ids to divs and spans with ids in opac-user.tt |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #697 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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kf |
jcamins++ for lots of awesome features in 3.8 :) |
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kf |
... and I can't wait until he has dom indexing to play with ... ;) |
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* jcamins |
is very excited for DOM indexing, too. |
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wizzyrea |
slef: maybe like oleonard's search to hold - you could add a conditional button to the regular search results to add "check this item out to <patron>" |
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wizzyrea |
just a thought |
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slef |
wizzyrea: and redirect to that when there's no barcode hit? |
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wizzyrea |
right |
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kf |
hm |
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wizzyrea |
sticky when you have multiple items though |
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kf |
someone an idea which z39.50 attribute to use for 084? |
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kf |
@marc 084 |
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huginn |
kf: A classification number from a scheme not covered by one of the other number fields. The field should not be used for classification numbers assigned from a source for which a subfield $2 source of number code would not be assigned. (Repeatable) [a,b,2,6,8] |
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jcamins |
20? |
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wahanui |
20 is nice |
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kf |
hm seems we use 20 already |
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wizzyrea |
slef: how many clicks are your people willing to take to make this work? |
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jcamins |
Well, wahanui thinks that's a good idea. |
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kf |
trying to figure that out right now |
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jcamins |
What are we using it for? |
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kf |
msc |
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kf |
and rvk |
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kf |
and... others |
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* jcamins |
withdraws the question. |
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kf |
oh |
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kf |
some kind of mathematical classification |
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kf |
but koha has 952$o callnumber |
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kf |
in there... |
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libsysguy |
paul_p you still around |
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kf |
wonder if it would hurt to just put the fields in there too |
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slef |
wizzyrea: good point. Ideally 0. |
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paul_p |
libsysguy yep, for a few minuts ! |
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jcamins |
Local use attribute, then? |
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slef |
wizzyrea: and if they are in the search screen, then they cannot access the date and so on, so they'd have to go back to circulation |
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libsysguy |
jw if you knew a good way to tell if the spacing would be right before I submitted this |
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slef |
wizzyrea: I'm waiting for feedback from the sponsor, but I suspect even my one extra click is pushing it :-/ |
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libsysguy |
bc in theory it should look the same as it does now only work on your end |
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wizzyrea |
:/ then what I'm thinking probably wouldn't be ideal |
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wizzyrea |
slef well I was envisioning something like 1. type title 2. results 3. find right book 4. click it 5. find right item 6. click "check out to <patron>" 7 click check out |
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wizzyrea |
so check out to would ultimately end up in the item table somewhere |
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wizzyrea |
which is far too much work |
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kf |
jcamins: melm 084$a Local-classification:w,Local-classification:p,Local-classification:s ? |
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wizzyrea |
6 sends you back to the checkout screen, where the barcode is now in the checkout box waiting for you to set the due date |
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kf |
jcamins: will I be able to do an exact search for something like 00 with that? |
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jcamins |
kf: yes. |
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jcamins |
kf: it'll be a problem for sorting by call number, though. |
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kf |
oh |
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kf |
aren't we useing the other column for sorting? |
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kf |
hm not good then |
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jcamins |
Let me actually look at the config file. |
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kf |
thank you |
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jcamins |
If you were to take out the Local-classification:s, that would do it. |
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kf |
they use a different schema for their call numbers... |
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kf |
ah |
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kf |
so s = sort? s = scan? |
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jcamins |
s=sort |
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jcamins |
scan=w |
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kf |
k :) |
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jcamins |
You know, I'm not sure Zebra configuration makes any sense. |
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jcamins |
;) |
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kf |
so that shoudl work you think? |
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jcamins |
Yes. |
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kf |
melm 084 Local-classification:w,Local-classification:p |
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kf |
melm 084$a Local-classification:w,Local-classification:p |
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kf |
ah |
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kf |
other way round, subfields first... I think |
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jcamins |
Right. |
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kf |
good that I showed you :) thx! |
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kf |
jcamins++ |
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jcamins |
Oh, unless they have similar classification and call numbers that are different. |
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kf |
? |
| 16:47 |
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kf |
explain that sentence please? :) |
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jcamins |
Like, if 084 classification LC1 means "Hochdeutsche" and call number LC1 means "Plattdueuetsch," that'd be a problem. |
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kf |
ah |
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kf |
no I think that should be save here... I hope |
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kf |
we will give it some testing |
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kf |
not sure where else to put it... |
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kf |
and thx for the german example :) |
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jcamins |
Because they'd search for LC1 in classification, and get the books on Low German, too. |
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jcamins |
:) |
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* jcamins |
always thought it was "Haupt-deutsch." You learn something new every day. :) |
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kf |
jcamins: thinking about it |
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kf |
a new index would work better probably |
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kf |
but not sure which attribute to use then |
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kf |
seems callnumbers should be more Number local call 53 - |
| 16:51 |
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jcamins |
Yes, it seems that way to me, too. |
| 16:51 |
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kf |
@marc 084 |
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huginn |
kf: A classification number from a scheme not covered by one of the other number fields. The field should not be used for classification numbers assigned from a source for which a subfield $2 source of number code would not be assigned. (Repeatable) [a,b,2,6,8] |
| 16:51 |
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jcamins |
It also seems like I should eat lunch now. |
| 16:51 |
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jcamins |
BRB |
| 16:51 |
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kf |
so it's wrong in koha now and I need to come up with something else |
| 16:51 |
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kf |
enjoy :) |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Stop unnecessary warnings in get_language <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a228d2579c08d288d> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_7284' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8349daa062a37c496> / bug 7284: fix package build problem, move BEGIN into new <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]oha.git;a=commitd |
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kf |
oleonard: don't your eyes hurt by now? |
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oleonard |
If I missed something in the cataloging plugins that's why :) |
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wizzyrea |
there isn't a cart function on the staff side, right? |
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oleonard |
There is |
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wizzyrea |
! |
| 16:58 |
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wizzyrea |
is it a syspref? |
| 16:58 |
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wizzyrea |
sorry to be so dense |
| 16:58 |
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sekjal |
paul_p: I'm QAing 7849 now that it's resubmitted |
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oleonard |
wizzyrea: If there's a syspref it's turned on by default |
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wizzyrea |
omg. lol. |
| 16:58 |
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oleonard |
Yeah, intranetbookbag |
| 16:58 |
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wizzyrea |
lool |
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wizzyrea |
ty |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: yes there is. |
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wizzyrea |
I just saw it |
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wizzyrea |
can't believe i'm so dumb. |
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wizzyrea |
^.^ |
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* oleonard |
scolds wizzyrea for calling herself dumb |
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slef |
bug 7849 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7849 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Signed Off , Instant Fine Calculation at Checkin |
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wizzyrea |
but geez it was staring me right in the face |
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libsysguy |
sorry I marked that wrong wizzyrea |
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wizzyrea |
oh, it's np |
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kf |
bye all |
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slef |
Does anyone know if there's an easy way to generate a drop-down list of possible checkouts in circulation.pl? |
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libsysguy |
wizzyrea I actually wasn't sure how to mark it since the code was signed off and it just failed on whitespace |
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oleonard |
slef: Possible checkouts? |
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wizzyrea |
yea, idk |
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sekjal |
libsysguy: working on QAing it now |
| 17:08 |
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wizzyrea |
idk |
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sekjal |
one question |
| 17:08 |
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libsysguy |
ok |
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libsysguy |
shoot |
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jcamins |
slef: use jQuery's autocomplete? |
| 17:09 |
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jcamins |
jQuery has awesome autocomplete. |
| 17:09 |
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jcamins |
Or ysearch. |
| 17:09 |
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slef |
@query fallback |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7789 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, frederic, NEW , Add translations of item type and authorized value descriptions |
| 17:09 |
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jcamins |
Though I think oleonard is trying to get us to stop using ysearch. |
| 17:09 |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7687 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Remove problematic CSS gradient declarations targeting Internet Explorer |
| 17:09 |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7494 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mjr, Needs Signoff , Use partial barcode or callnumber as a fallback for the barcode search in checkout |
| 17:09 |
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sekjal |
if you also run the fines.pl cron, is the patron charged twice (once on cron, then again on return)? |
| 17:09 |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3280 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt, Patch doesn't apply , opac/opac-sendbasket.pl security leaky |
| 17:09 |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7362 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Patch doesn't apply , Allow searching by item number as a fallback |
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slef |
oleonard: bug 7494 |
| 17:09 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7494 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mjr, Needs Signoff , Use partial barcode or callnumber as a fallback for the barcode search in checkout |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #697: SUCCESS in 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/697/ |
| 17:09 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7482: overdues report downloads without names |
| 17:09 |
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jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Bug 2780 - Capitalize strings consistently |
| 17:09 |
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jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Bug 2780 - Capitalize strings consistently |
| 17:09 |
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jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Bug 2780 - Capitalize strings consistently (catalog) |
| 17:09 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7482 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , overdues report downloads without names |
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jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Bug 2780 - Capitalize strings consistently (Budgets) |
| 17:09 |
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jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Bug 2780 - Capitalize strings consistently (Circulation) |
| 17:09 |
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jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Bug 2780 - Capitalize strings consistently (Labels) |
| 17:09 |
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jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Bug 2780 - Capitalize strings consistently (Patron cards) |
| 17:09 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2780 minor, P3, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Capitalize strings consistently |
| 17:09 |
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jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Bug 2780 - Capitalize strings consistently (Patrons) |
| 17:09 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Bug 2780 - Capitalize strings consistently (Serials) |
| 17:09 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Bug 2780 - Capitalize strings consistently (Cataloging) |
| 17:09 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Bug 2780 - Capitalize strings consistently (Administration) |
| 17:09 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Bug 2780 - Capitalize strings consistently (Reports) |
| 17:09 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Bug 2780 - Capitalize strings consistently (Tools) |
| 17:09 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Bug 2780 - Capitalize strings consistently (miscellaneous) |
| 17:09 |
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jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Bug 2780 - Capitalize strings consistently (Acquisitions pages) |
| 17:09 |
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slef |
arrrrgh oleonard has spammed us to death ;) |
| 17:10 |
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libsysguy |
sekjal, no. it would just recalculate the overdue amount and overwrite the database entry |
| 17:10 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #698 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 17:10 |
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libsysguy |
tried to wait till the oleonard spam was done |
| 17:10 |
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wizzyrea |
bug 7494 |
| 17:10 |
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wizzyrea |
oh poor huginn |
| 17:10 |
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slef |
huginn is punch-drunk |
| 17:10 |
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huginn |
slef: downloading the Perl source |
| 17:10 |
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sekjal |
libsysguy: thanks, that's what I figured, but I wanted to raise the question to be sure |
| 17:10 |
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wizzyrea |
bug 7494 |
| 17:11 |
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libsysguy |
yeah that question has been raised a lot actually |
| 17:11 |
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wizzyrea |
he'll have none of that nonsense |
| 17:11 |
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libsysguy |
including by me when I frist started |
| 17:11 |
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slef |
wizzyrea: I think huginn thinks we've been abusing him. |
| 17:11 |
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wizzyrea |
yea |
| 17:11 |
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slef |
him? her? it? |
| 17:11 |
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wizzyrea |
well he'd be right :) |
| 17:11 |
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slef |
huginn: bug 7494 |
| 17:11 |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7494 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mjr, Needs Signoff , Use partial barcode or callnumber as a fallback for the barcode search in checkout |
| 17:11 |
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* wizzyrea |
always thinks of huginn as a boy-person |
| 17:11 |
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wizzyrea |
there we go |
| 17:11 |
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slef |
it's ignoring open channel for a bit |
| 17:12 |
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slef |
meeting log? |
| 17:12 |
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jcamins |
meeting logs? |
| 17:12 |
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libsysguy |
oh man I forgot about the meeting this morning |
| 17:12 |
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jcamins |
me? |
| 17:12 |
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wahanui |
rumour has it jcamins is an outstanding cook. or well-traveled and brilliant. or trying to think of a solution or awesome fixing broken email notifications or the wizard that forges queries in the deep fires of zebra or against all things wine |
| 17:12 |
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wizzyrea |
me? |
| 17:12 |
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wahanui |
I LIKE SCIENCE |
| 17:12 |
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slef |
meeting log is http://meetings.koha-community[…]-04-04-10.00.html |
| 17:12 |
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wizzyrea |
*nod* |
| 17:12 |
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libsysguy |
me? |
| 17:12 |
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wahanui |
well, libsysguy is Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck |
| 17:13 |
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slef |
me? |
| 17:13 |
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wahanui |
i think slef is an avid cyclist |
| 17:13 |
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libsysguy |
*for wizzy* |
| 17:13 |
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* wizzyrea |
giggles |
| 17:13 |
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slef |
wahanui: you? |
| 17:13 |
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wahanui |
hmmm... i am a bot |
| 17:13 |
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slef |
wahanui: ILOVEYOU |
| 17:13 |
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wahanui |
LOVE YOU TOO MATE but shut up and let me work |
| 17:13 |
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libsysguy |
^^ LOL |
| 17:13 |
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libsysguy |
i am going to put that on my door at work |
| 17:13 |
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wizzyrea |
lol. |
| 17:14 |
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slef |
(and did anyone spot the fourth line of http://meetings.koha-community[…]04-10.00.log.html ? ahem) |
| 17:14 |
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wizzyrea |
lol |
| 17:14 |
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jcamins |
lol |
| 17:14 |
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wizzyrea |
he's practically human nowadays |
| 17:15 |
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libsysguy |
sekjal i guess now I just have to pass the tab test :p |
| 17:15 |
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libsysguy |
thanks for QA-ing that |
| 17:16 |
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slef |
ok, while oleonard is recoiling in horror at the fallback search, I'm going to see if I can figure out bug 7894 some more |
| 17:16 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7894 blocker, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Broken detail page for first link on page 2 from search result page in OPAC |
| 17:16 |
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slef |
very kind of magnus_away not to put that as Failed QA |
| 17:16 |
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sekjal |
no problem. glad to have it in. allows for more options with fine usage. |
| 17:16 |
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sekjal |
oh, though, followup: |
| 17:16 |
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libsysguy |
shoot |
| 17:16 |
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sekjal |
what if fines mode isn't 'production'? |
| 17:17 |
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libsysguy |
oh for the calendar check? |
| 17:17 |
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* slef |
fails his own patch to bug 7894 |
| 17:17 |
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slef |
jcamins: were you looking at this to patch it, or to test? |
| 17:17 |
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jcamins |
slef: to test. |
| 17:17 |
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jcamins |
It's marked as a blocker. |
| 17:17 |
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sekjal |
there are a couple values of finesMode syspref that don't actually charge the patron |
| 17:18 |
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libsysguy |
ahh, I didn't check for those but I can write a followup |
| 17:18 |
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slef |
ok I don't understand how the loop around opac-detail.pl:151 ever worked |
| 17:18 |
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libsysguy |
sekjal it should be as simple as adding a check for the mode and the holiday |
| 17:18 |
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slef |
it looks to me like it throws the data of all except the last server away |
| 17:19 |
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libsysguy |
I've got to run for a bit…bbl #koha |
| 17:25 |
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* slef |
starts swearing like a trooper |
| 17:26 |
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jcamins |
slef: did you figure out the problem, or is it worse than you realized? |
| 17:29 |
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slef |
jcamins: I don't really see how this code is supposed to work because it's undocumented and half of it is in Spanish which I'm not brilliant at. |
| 17:29 |
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slef |
There are lines like delete $arrParamsBusc{'previous'} if (exists($arrParamsBusc{'previous'})); and I don't see the reason why. |
| 17:30 |
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slef |
I'm now testing master to see if previous worked then, just to reassure me. |
| 17:31 |
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slef |
heh, no, of course it didn't |
| 17:31 |
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slef |
that's why we had the error |
| 17:31 |
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slef |
someone said it worked in 3.6 |
| 17:31 |
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slef |
next did not work in master |
| 17:32 |
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slef |
so I think Next/Previous not working on last/first results is another, less severe bug. |
| 17:32 |
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jcamins |
slef: yes, certainly. The bug I was referring to is that Next/Previous seemed to be grayed out altogether with the patch. |
| 17:33 |
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wizzyrea |
huh, on 3.6.4, the 1st result doesn't show the previous/next links at all |
| 17:33 |
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slef |
wizzyrea: what about the 20th? |
| 17:33 |
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wizzyrea |
but doesn't give an error |
| 17:33 |
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slef |
(if you have 20 results/page) |
| 17:34 |
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slef |
and do you have OPACGroupResults or whatever it is called? |
| 17:34 |
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* wizzyrea |
checks that |
| 17:34 |
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wizzyrea |
no, I don't have that on |
| 17:35 |
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* wizzyrea |
wonders how it changes thing |
| 17:35 |
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wizzyrea |
s |
| 17:35 |
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slef |
then you won't get the previous/next box I think |
| 17:35 |
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* slef |
checks his |
| 17:36 |
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wizzyrea |
well mine just bombs entirely. pazpar must not be running. |
| 17:36 |
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wizzyrea |
good thing I did that on the test server. |
| 17:36 |
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slef |
wizzyrea++ |
| 17:36 |
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wizzyrea |
or maybe it's only not running on the test server. |
| 17:36 |
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wizzyrea |
that could be. |
| 17:36 |
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slef |
oh wait |
| 17:36 |
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slef |
mine is set to Don't use |
| 17:36 |
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* slef |
goes and rereads the code |
| 17:36 |
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jcamins |
slef: no, it has nothing to do with pazpar2. |
| 17:37 |
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slef |
if (!C4::Context->preference('NoZebra') && !$build_grouped_results) { |
| 17:37 |
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slef |
ah, enabling GroupResults switches this off |
| 17:37 |
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slef |
wizzyrea: do you have previous/next on the 20th and 21st result? |
| 17:37 |
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wizzyrea |
http://catalog-test.nexpressli[…]iblionumber=29601 |
| 17:37 |
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wizzyrea |
3.6.4, btw |
| 17:38 |
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slef |
wizzyrea: it's in the session, so I need to do a search first |
| 17:38 |
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wizzyrea |
oh, and there's the error |
| 17:38 |
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wizzyrea |
on the 1st result of 2nd page |
| 17:38 |
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slef |
which also sucks so let's not have that fight now |
| 17:39 |
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wizzyrea |
hee |
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| 17:40 |
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slef |
pages that change depending how you reach them... if it's not a HTTP status code change (like 200 OK v 403 Unauthorized), I think it's a bad idea |
| 17:40 |
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slef |
yeah, the Next is greyed out on result 20 on wizzyrea's catalog-test |
| 17:40 |
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jcamins |
slef: my theory is at least it's better now than it was before we had any paging. |
| 17:40 |
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wizzyrea |
but I think that makes sense |
| 17:40 |
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slef |
I don't think this feature worked to start with. |
| 17:41 |
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jcamins |
slef: it never went between pages. |
| 17:41 |
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wizzyrea |
at least, it makes sense to me - it can't next into the next page |
| 17:41 |
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slef |
jcamins: the code tried to. |
| 17:41 |
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slef |
jcamins: It Just Doesn't Work. |
| 17:41 |
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jcamins |
slef: I mean, it went between different details pages within the 20 results just retrieved. |
| 17:41 |
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wizzyrea |
right |
| 17:41 |
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wizzyrea |
it does do that |
| 17:41 |
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jcamins |
But it never went past the 20-result boundary. |
| 17:41 |
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wizzyrea |
or whatever the boundary is |
| 17:41 |
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slef |
and it Doesn'tWork more spectacularly on page 2 first link than it did on page 1 last link |
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wizzyrea |
right, that's the real problem |
| 17:42 |
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jcamins |
Yes. |
| 17:42 |
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slef |
jcamins: the code is there for trying to go across the boundary |
| 17:42 |
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slef |
jcamins: that's what's failing |
| 17:42 |
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wizzyrea |
and the problem with your patch is that paging through details doesn't work with the patch? |
| 17:42 |
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jcamins |
slef: oh, well... it probably shouldn't bother. |
| 17:42 |
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slef |
wizzyrea: yeah. So I think it's a pre-existing problem. I'm putting it back to Needs Signoff. |
| 17:42 |
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jcamins |
slef: when I tried your patch, the problem wasn't on the 20th result. |
| 17:43 |
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jcamins |
wasn't *just* |
| 17:43 |
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jcamins |
It was on every single result. |
| 17:43 |
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slef |
jcamins: ah. |
| 17:43 |
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jcamins |
There was no paging at all. |
| 17:43 |
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wizzyrea |
oh yea, breaking *all* of the paging is bad. |
| 17:43 |
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* slef |
switches back to his branch |
| 17:44 |
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slef |
jcamins: on page>1 or on page=1 too? |
| 17:45 |
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jcamins |
page=1 |
| 17:45 |
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jcamins |
Was it a stale cache on my browser? |
| 17:45 |
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slef |
jcamins: maybe. worksforme |
| 17:45 |
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slef |
checking page=2 now |
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alaquerre |
Hi everyone, wanted to share that we have launch yesterday Opac-Mobile in beta-testing on a production site. We worked on it last couple of weeks. This mobile will be released to the community short term -- I would say couples weeks. We would like to have feedback from you guys to see what you think about it. -- levis.koha.ccsr.qc.ca |
| 17:47 |
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alaquerre |
Open it using smartphone or shrink your browser so you can have the mobile display to kick in. |
| 17:47 |
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slef |
jcamins: yeah, worksforme on page=2 too. |
| 17:47 |
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sekjal |
kyleh: thanks for the followup on 7641; I'm QAing now |
| 17:48 |
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jcamins |
I should mobile-ify my OPACs. |
| 17:49 |
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kyleh |
sekjal: np, glad to get it though quickly. |
| 17:49 |
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alaquerre |
You won't have access to the user section, but user will be able to renew and reserve document. |
| 17:49 |
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jcamins |
You know what would be useful? An OPACIncludeJS syspref for javascript code that is standard to all one's Koha installations. |
| 17:49 |
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kyleh |
sekjal: looks like Ian beat you to it. |
| 17:50 |
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wizzyrea |
sekjal = ian |
| 17:50 |
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* jcamins |
scratches his head in confusion. |
| 17:50 |
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slef |
oh wow |
| 17:51 |
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jcamins |
slef: uh-oh? |
| 17:51 |
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* kyleh |
has a head crash |
| 17:51 |
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slef |
if someone opens two search result pages in two tabs, it confuses the Browse Results thing |
| 17:52 |
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slef |
if you think that it's implemented in the session, you'd expect that, but that's more in-depth knowledge than OPAC users will have |
| 17:52 |
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slef |
stored, not implemented |
| 17:52 |
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kyleh |
I guess my mind is getting addled in my old age, or I need some caffiene |
| 17:52 |
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jcamins |
Heh. I would not have expected it. |
| 17:52 |
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sekjal |
alaquerre: ah, so mobile CSS with screensize detection, rather than a completely separate mobile template |
| 17:54 |
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alaquerre |
sekjal : Yes. We did not have the ressource ($) to do template. |
| 17:54 |
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sekjal |
it works. the content isn't necessarily optimized on page load, but CSS can do a lot of good here |
| 17:55 |
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slef |
ok, what severity is Browse Results being easy to confuse? |
| 17:55 |
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oleonard |
Seems like a good start alaquerre |
| 17:55 |
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slef |
I think it's normal or major |
| 17:55 |
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sekjal |
alaqueree: I'm interested to see the patch |
| 17:55 |
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wizzyrea |
yea, at this point, the implementation taht's submitted first will probably be the one that goes in |
| 17:55 |
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wizzyrea |
none have been submitted |
| 17:56 |
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wizzyrea |
lots done, none submitted |
| 17:56 |
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sekjal |
at least not in a format that's viable for the testing process |
| 17:56 |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: who knows, maybe mine could be the first! |
| 17:56 |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
| 17:56 |
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* wizzyrea |
has more confidence in yours being submitted in a testable way |
| 17:56 |
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jcamins |
(no, I have no intention of working on a mobile interface) |
| 17:56 |
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sekjal |
two different levels possible: mobile CSS, or mobile template |
| 17:57 |
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sekjal |
mobile CSS will be much easier to do |
| 17:57 |
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jcamins |
I may do a patch to add an OPACIncludeJS syspref. |
| 17:57 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #698: SUCCESS in 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/698/ |
| 17:57 |
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jenkins_koha |
* dpavlin: Bug 7766 - C4/Auth.pm: emit DEBUG output to STDERR |
| 17:57 |
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sekjal |
but less optimized on a content/function level |
| 17:57 |
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jenkins_koha |
* mjr: bug 7284: fix package build problem, move BEGIN into new |
| 17:57 |
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jenkins_koha |
* colin.campbell: Stop unnecessary warnings in get_language |
| 17:57 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7766 normal, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , C4/Auth.pm emits debug output to STDOUT |
| 17:57 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Authority matching algorithm improvements |
| 17:57 |
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* jcamins |
would go with the mobile CSS option. |
| 17:57 |
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kyleh |
alaquerre++ |
| 17:57 |
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sekjal |
mobile app would only be worthwhile for the staff client |
| 17:57 |
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wizzyrea |
patch or it didn't happen :P |
| 17:57 |
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alaquerre |
Well, we will submit the patch ounce it's clean and that we like our display... If the community refuse it that's okay :-) |
| 17:57 |
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sekjal |
but that could be done in HTML5/CSS3/JQuery, and then compiled for whatever platform with Phonegap |
| 17:58 |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: that was in the subjunctive. It definitely didn't happen. :P |
| 17:58 |
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wizzyrea |
like i said, seems unlikely |
| 17:58 |
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jcamins |
It seems unlikely a mobile interface would be rejected *if it were easy to test and incorporate*. |
| 17:58 |
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jcamins |
(important proviso there) |
| 17:59 |
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wizzyrea |
jcamins: no, what I'm saying is " unless you sent a patch, it effectively was never written" |
| 17:59 |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: oh, sorry, misunderstood. |
| 17:59 |
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wizzyrea |
hehe sok |
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alaquerre |
:-) I dont know all the implementations but I understand it's very easy to put in place. Guys from Libeo has work on it and we asked them to make sure it can be push out to the community so I am pretty sure it will be doable. After that you guys have the control ;-) |
| 18:01 |
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wizzyrea |
yup yup |
| 18:02 |
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kyleh |
I must say, this seems like a better alternative than the mobile templates variation I had proposed. |
| 18:02 |
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sekjal |
yes, the mobile CSS technique has the possibility of being very elegantly simple at the abstract level |
| 18:03 |
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sekjal |
how it's managed in the staff client will be the real trick, I think... I can think of a couple ways to do it |
| 18:03 |
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sekjal |
as I said, will be interested to see the patch |
| 18:04 |
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* jcamins |
doesn't particularly care about a mobile skin for the staff client, to be honest. |
| 18:05 |
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jcamins |
Unless it had an inventory tool. |
| 18:05 |
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jcamins |
*That* would be useful. |
| 18:05 |
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jcamins |
But the rest? Circulation, etc.? I don't really see a point. |
| 18:06 |
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sekjal |
jcamins: I think the staff client mobile app would be a completely different beast |
| 18:06 |
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sekjal |
using the camera to scan barcodes would be the main trick, I think |
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sekjal |
for inventory, rebarcoding projects, and even, yes, circ |
| 18:07 |
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sekjal |
a built-in foot-traffic or headcount tool would also be handy |
| 18:07 |
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sekjal |
doing things that really make use of the mobile hardware and form factor |
| 18:07 |
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sekjal |
mobile cataloging support.... not a high priority |
| 18:07 |
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jcamins |
The thing about circ, though, is if you want to do mobile circ, you want to do it because it makes things faster. |
| 18:08 |
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alaquerre |
FYI : Circ from opac-user would be much better but library need to be linked to the security stuff. ( That's a long term project here ) |
| 18:09 |
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sekjal |
well, actually... mobile cataloging by scanning a EAN/UPC/ISBN barcode |
| 18:09 |
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sekjal |
that's exactly what I want to do first for my home library |
| 18:09 |
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alaquerre |
So user is taking what ever document, scan barcode from his smartphone and get out without going at the frontdesk :-) |
| 18:10 |
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oleonard |
That's self-checkout, and we have a web-based version of it |
| 18:10 |
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jcamins |
I don't see how it would be faster to use a phone than a self-check machine. |
| 18:10 |
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jcamins |
(or a regular circ workstation) |
| 18:10 |
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jcamins |
sekjal: right, that was subsumed in my "inventory" idea. |
| 18:10 |
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jcamins |
alaquerre: that's on the OPAC. |
| 18:10 |
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jcamins |
alaquerre: I'm talking about mobile circ on the staff client not seeming very practical. |
| 18:11 |
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jcamins |
(not that I'd object if someone had an implementation, of course) |
| 18:12 |
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alaquerre |
jcamins: really... self-checkout exist in koha ? Is it link to the security stuff ( dont know how to say it in english) so the alarm wont bell when you get out? |
| 18:12 |
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alaquerre |
anti-theif |
| 18:13 |
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sekjal |
jcamins: if nothing else, it'd force us to write a very efficient web service for circulation protocols... one that's as fast and optimized as possible |
| 18:13 |
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sekjal |
that could be reused in the standard client, as well |
| 18:13 |
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sekjal |
alaquerre: no, our self-check doesn't have a way to connect to an anti-theft detector machine |
| 18:13 |
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jcamins |
alaquerre: I don't use self-check much. oleonard knows more about it. I presume it would work with RFID, not so well with magnetic strips. |
| 18:14 |
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alaquerre |
Yes that's what I was talking about... Library need to place the RFID in place. |
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| 18:23 |
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oleonard |
Is it time for test-minded folks like myself to be running Plack on the off-chance I notice a bug? Or is it not there yet? |
| 18:24 |
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* cait |
waves |
| 18:25 |
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jcamins |
oleonard: my understanding is that it's not really an "off-chance' that you'll notice bugs in Plack. |
| 18:25 |
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jcamins |
oleonard: the fact that Plack doesn't catch syspref changes has persuaded me that I don't want to run it on my development system yet. |
| 18:25 |
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jcamins |
Restarting the web server several times to test a feature seems like a huge nuisance. |
| 18:26 |
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oleonard |
Testing does involve a lot of pref-changing |
| 18:27 |
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jcamins |
I think dpavlin has a plan for making it work, so once Plack and sysprefs play nice together I'll revisit the question of Plack. |
| 18:27 |
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sekjal |
mixing Plack testing and other bug testing would give less than fully scientific results |
| 18:30 |
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* oleonard |
is all about being fully scientific! |
| 18:30 |
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sekjal |
FOR SCIENCE! |
| 18:30 |
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jcamins |
Did someone say... |
| 18:30 |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea? |
| 18:30 |
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wahanui |
I LIKE SCIENCE |
| 18:37 |
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libsysguy |
does anybody on mess with acqui much? |
| 18:37 |
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jcamins |
cait does. |
| 18:38 |
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libsysguy |
seen cait? |
| 18:38 |
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wahanui |
cait was last seen on #koha 13 minutes and 12 seconds ago, saying: waves [Wed Apr 4 18:24:18 2012] |
| 18:38 |
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cait |
I am here |
| 18:38 |
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libsysguy |
hi cait |
| 18:38 |
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cait |
hi libsysguy |
| 18:38 |
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libsysguy |
I have a question |
| 18:38 |
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cait |
ohoh |
| 18:38 |
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cait |
ok :) |
| 18:38 |
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libsysguy |
when you receive a shipment and you go to the next page koha automatically assumes that you received the shipment today |
| 18:39 |
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libsysguy |
is that how it is supposed to be or is that supposed to be set to the shipment date/ |
| 18:39 |
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cait |
I think it sounds wrong |
| 18:39 |
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cait |
should be the shipment date |
| 18:39 |
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libsysguy |
ok that is what the person at my library thinks too |
| 18:39 |
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libsysguy |
and it makes sense to do it that way |
| 18:40 |
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libsysguy |
so ill see if I can patch that |
| 18:40 |
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cait |
oleonard: I lost track - how many have you done now? and is opac done? (capitalisation) |
| 18:40 |
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cait |
cool :) |
| 18:40 |
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libsysguy |
bug 5339 makes acquisitions so much better |
| 18:40 |
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cait |
perhaps it's a missing parameter or something |
| 18:40 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5339 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Parcel closing in acq |
| 18:40 |
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cait |
yeah |
| 18:40 |
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cait |
we are getting there |
| 18:40 |
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cait |
is that in yet? |
| 18:41 |
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libsysguy |
ugh no |
| 18:41 |
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oleonard |
I've done includes, Acqui, Admin, Authorities, Cataloging, Catalogue |
| 18:41 |
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libsysguy |
I am trying cait |
| 18:41 |
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oleonard |
All in the staff client |
| 18:41 |
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libsysguy |
but it seems like every time Julian rebases it, it goes out of date again |
| 18:41 |
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cait |
oleonard: was thinking perhaps to start on opac - what did paul say? friday? |
| 18:41 |
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cait |
or thursday? |
| 18:41 |
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cait |
libsysguy: lots of changes pushed there |
| 18:41 |
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cait |
it#s one of the most active modules I think |
| 18:41 |
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cait |
but all for the better :) |
| 18:41 |
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libsysguy |
yeah well its basically parcel that is always in conflict |
| 18:42 |
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oleonard |
"Friday/Monday" I thought he said.... Not sure what that means :) |
| 18:42 |
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libsysguy |
but I feel bad because i sign off on it and then if it gets to QA its already out of date |
| 18:42 |
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cait |
heh me neither :) |
| 18:42 |
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libsysguy |
i don't know ho wto solve that |
| 18:42 |
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cait |
I think he does not count weekends? |
| 18:42 |
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cait |
libsysguy: keep testing |
| 18:42 |
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cait |
:) |
| 18:42 |
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libsysguy |
haha |
| 18:42 |
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cait |
and bribe sekjal with chocolate :) |
| 18:43 |
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libsysguy |
lol sekjal is always good about getting to something if you request it |
| 18:43 |
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libsysguy |
sekjal++ |
| 18:43 |
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oleonard |
Except that time I asked him to re-write Search.pm. Slacker. |
| 18:44 |
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libsysguy |
haha poor search.pm |
| 18:44 |
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libsysguy |
wait…is that the one with the memory leaks? |
| 18:44 |
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sekjal |
:) |
| 18:44 |
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oleonard |
It's the one that take candy from children every time it runs |
| 18:44 |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: among other problems. |
| 18:45 |
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jcamins |
^^ ... and adds poison to the candy before giving it out to kittens. |
| 18:45 |
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* libsysguy |
forms a mob |
| 18:45 |
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cait |
heh |
| 18:45 |
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* libsysguy |
sharpens code pitchfork |
| 18:59 |
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* oleonard |
bemoans the lack of hours in the day |
| 19:00 |
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libsysguy |
^^ |
| 19:02 |
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libsysguy |
i usually just forego sleep to get more stuff done |
| 19:04 |
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jcamins |
Bug 5335 |
| 19:04 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5335 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , More granular VAT |
| 19:04 |
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cait |
libsysguy: that works for you? |
| 19:04 |
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* jcamins |
heads home. |
| 19:05 |
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libsysguy |
cait usually….but I read today that not sleeping well or at all inhibits your bodies ability to produce insulin |
| 19:05 |
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libsysguy |
basically giving you type 2 diabetes for the day |
| 19:05 |
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cait |
well... and it makes you go crazy |
| 19:05 |
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libsysguy |
im already crazy :p |
| 19:07 |
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cait |
5335 is conflicting too :( |
| 19:09 |
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wizzyrea |
real conflicts or db update conflicts |
| 19:11 |
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libsysguy |
on a seperate note, who has seen the new HUD from google |
| 19:12 |
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libsysguy |
sekjal question |
| 19:12 |
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sekjal |
shoot |
| 19:12 |
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libsysguy |
is Dates being replaced by Koha::Calendar |
| 19:13 |
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libsysguy |
or is it just C4:Calendar that is being replaced |
| 19:13 |
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libsysguy |
i guess I've always been a little confused by the two |
| 19:13 |
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sekjal |
I think we may eventually be in a place to phase out C4::Dates... but not quite yet |
| 19:13 |
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sekjal |
now that we have a dep on DateTime |
| 19:14 |
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libsysguy |
I was about to start working on some acqui stuff and it has heavy use on C4::dates |
| 19:14 |
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libsysguy |
and I thought about making the changes while I was working on it |
| 19:14 |
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libsysguy |
but I don't know if that should be a separate ticket |
| 19:14 |
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libsysguy |
or if we should be making changes as we come across them |
| 19:16 |
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sekjal |
libsysguy: looking at what C4::Dates has to offer, I think we can start working to phase it out |
| 19:16 |
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sekjal |
but you may want to check with some other developers on that, too |
| 19:16 |
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libsysguy |
fair enough |
| 19:17 |
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libsysguy |
I won't change anything yet but does anybody else that is on have any opinions about the Dates situation? |
| 19:20 |
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sekjal |
time to talk about Falcons! brb |
| 19:27 |
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cait |
libsysguy: hm |
| 19:27 |
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cait |
not sure, but I think dates got moved to the koha namespace when the plugin did? |
| 19:27 |
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cait |
I mean the dates plugin? |
| 19:28 |
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cait |
hm ignore me - i don't make sene |
| 19:28 |
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cait |
sense |
| 19:28 |
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libsysguy |
there is a DatesUtils.pm |
| 19:28 |
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libsysguy |
but I don't see Dates.pm |
| 19:28 |
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cait |
ah |
| 19:28 |
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cait |
confusing them then |
| 19:28 |
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libsysguy |
I think what sekjal meant was that we added the DateTime pacakge as a dependency and it does everything and more that C4::Dates does |
| 19:29 |
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libsysguy |
so if we could phase it out it would be good |
| 19:29 |
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libsysguy |
but we don't want to rush it |
| 19:29 |
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cait |
ah ok |
| 19:30 |
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libsysguy |
im just working on acquisitions for my senior project and thought it might be cool to get it moved over |
| 19:31 |
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rangi |
Morning |
| 19:31 |
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libsysguy |
morning |
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wahanui |
morning is probably a state of mind. |
| 19:31 |
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libsysguy |
wahanui morning is a slow state of mind |
| 19:31 |
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wahanui |
...but morning is a state of mind.... |
| 19:32 |
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cait |
morning rangi |
| 19:33 |
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wizzyrea |
mornin rangi |
| 19:33 |
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cait |
wizzyrea: were real conflicts :( noted on the bug |
| 19:33 |
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wizzyrea |
boo |
| 19:33 |
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cait |
wizzyrea: looked at the first one but was not so easy to fix, so back to rebasing |
| 19:35 |
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* libsysguy |
doesn't like rebasing so much |
| 19:38 |
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libsysguy |
cait |
| 19:38 |
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libsysguy |
question |
| 19:38 |
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wahanui |
question is, like, "What is the meaning of life, the universe and everything?" |
| 19:38 |
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libsysguy |
hehe |
| 19:38 |
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cait |
libsysguy: noone does |
| 19:38 |
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cait |
but we are moving fast now with big changes |
| 19:38 |
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cait |
it happens |
| 19:38 |
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libsysguy |
anyway…my library wanted to know if it would be ok to add an additional field for extra data in an invoice |
| 19:39 |
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libsysguy |
like an invoicenotes field |
| 19:39 |
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cait |
like a note field? |
| 19:39 |
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libsysguy |
yeah |
| 19:39 |
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libsysguy |
i thought there was one |
| 19:39 |
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cait |
for each thing you receive? for for the shipment? |
| 19:39 |
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libsysguy |
for the shipment |
| 19:39 |
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cait |
makes sense to me |
| 19:39 |
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cait |
we have notes everywhere |
| 19:39 |
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libsysguy |
they want it to add an account id for our accounting system |
| 19:39 |
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libsysguy |
heh |
| 19:39 |
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cait |
librarians love notes :) |
| 19:40 |
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libsysguy |
well I can't really call it "Points Plus ID" |
| 19:40 |
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libsysguy |
:p |
| 19:41 |
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cait |
huh? |
| 19:41 |
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cait |
:) |
| 19:42 |
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cait |
what is that? :) |
| 19:42 |
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libsysguy |
Points Plus is the name of our accounting software |
| 19:42 |
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cait |
aah |
| 19:42 |
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cait |
makes sense |
| 19:42 |
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libsysguy |
I need to send Julian a beer for the work he did on acquisitions |
| 19:43 |
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libsysguy |
this is really good stuff |
| 19:46 |
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rangi |
Yay pizza Thursday |
| 19:47 |
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cait |
mmh pizza |
| 19:50 |
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libsysguy |
wants food |
| 19:50 |
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libsysguy |
:'( |
| 19:50 |
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libsysguy |
starving developer lol |
| 19:51 |
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rangi |
My bus stop bbiab |
| 19:55 |
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cait |
libsysguy++ |
| 19:55 |
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cait |
you make me laugh :) |
| 19:56 |
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libsysguy |
i do what i can cait :) |
| 20:07 |
|
rangi |
back |
| 20:07 |
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rangi |
and with a hot cross bun |
| 20:08 |
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sekjal |
back |
| 20:09 |
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oleonard |
gone |
| 20:14 |
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cait |
rangi: and no buns for us? :) |
| 20:14 |
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rangi |
i gave one to a german |
| 20:14 |
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rangi |
does that count? |
| 20:14 |
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rangi |
:) |
| 20:14 |
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cait |
that doesn't count |
| 20:15 |
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cait |
but I am sure anitsirk deserved one |
| 20:15 |
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libsysguy |
seen julian_m |
| 20:15 |
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wahanui |
julian_m was last seen on #koha 2 days, 13 hours, 21 minutes and 1 seconds ago, saying: hello magnuse [Mon Apr 2 06:54:09 2012] |
| 20:15 |
|
rangi |
hehe |
| 20:18 |
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sekjal |
libsysguy: I think we can remove all of the C4::Dates dependencies from C4::Circ now |
| 20:18 |
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libsysguy |
sick! |
| 20:19 |
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sekjal |
most of it is documentation |
| 20:19 |
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libsysguy |
not so sick :'( |
| 20:19 |
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libsysguy |
lol |
| 20:19 |
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sekjal |
there is one called to C4::Date->new(), which is then not utilized anywhere |
| 20:20 |
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libsysguy |
i have found quite a few of those laying around |
| 20:20 |
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sekjal |
and one call to C4::Dates->regexp which is in a conditional with a Never True thing |
| 20:20 |
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sekjal |
another call to ->today() which is commented out |
| 20:20 |
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libsysguy |
speaking of a never true thing…something you might appreciate that i found in one of my friends code |
| 20:21 |
|
libsysguy |
i found an if(1 == 0) { some code that he wanted to comment out} |
| 20:21 |
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sekjal |
lol |
| 20:21 |
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sekjal |
I've done that |
| 20:21 |
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libsysguy |
i didn't catch it for a good half hour when debugging |
| 20:21 |
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rangi |
i do that with the next/previous/browse thing |
| 20:21 |
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libsysguy |
i don't ever look at whats in the if |
| 20:22 |
|
rangi |
until you guys fix that for me |
| 20:22 |
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rangi |
:) |
| 20:22 |
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libsysguy |
the only thing I've used that for is to move to the other side of the page |
| 20:22 |
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* libsysguy |
hates how facets are on the left and then one click later the layout has changed |
| 20:23 |
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rangi |
your ideas are intriguing to me, and i wish to subscribe to your newsletter |
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libsysguy |
o_0 |
| 20:26 |
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libsysguy |
rangi you talking to me? |
| 20:26 |
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rangi |
too young for that eh? |
| 20:26 |
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libsysguy |
maybe…or too slow |
| 20:26 |
|
libsysguy |
maybe if you speak slower :p |
| 20:26 |
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rangi |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXesMkAYh44 |
| 20:26 |
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libsysguy |
and in smaller words... |
| 20:27 |
|
libsysguy |
lol |
| 20:27 |
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* rangi |
recycles old memes |
| 20:27 |
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sekjal |
C4/circ also uses format_date in two places, in the needsconfirmation message |
| 20:27 |
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libsysguy |
yeah my parents are hard core conservatives and forbid me from watching that show |
| 20:27 |
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sekjal |
that can be replaced with KohaDates plugin |
| 20:27 |
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rangi |
im guessing family guy was out too :) |
| 20:27 |
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libsysguy |
yup :-\ |
| 20:27 |
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rangi |
itchy and scratchy? |
| 20:28 |
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libsysguy |
also we didn't have cable/satellite till I was in highschool |
| 20:28 |
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libsysguy |
no idea |
| 20:28 |
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libsysguy |
:'( |
| 20:28 |
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wizzyrea |
my parents are not so hard core, but the simpsons was deemed "filthy" along with fresh prince of bel aire |
| 20:29 |
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libsysguy |
in west Philadelphia born and raised on the playground is were I spent most of my days |
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| 20:29 |
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libsysguy |
sekjal I may make a run though there are see what I can clean up |
| 20:29 |
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libsysguy |
as soon as I finish modifying bug 5339 to work for my capstone project :p |
| 20:29 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5339 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Parcel closing in acq |
| 20:30 |
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sekjal |
libsysguy: I'm filing a bug now for removing C4::Dates from C4::Circ |
| 20:30 |
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libsysguy |
sweet |
| 20:30 |
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libsysguy |
is there a bug 1 |
| 20:30 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]show_bug.cgi?id=1 major, P2, ---, chris, CLOSED FIXED, Missing uploadedmarc table definition |
| 20:30 |
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libsysguy |
i guess so |
| 20:31 |
|
* gmcharlt |
checks |
| 20:31 |
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gmcharlt |
it's still missing! ;) |
| 20:31 |
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libsysguy |
LOL man who closed that one |
| 20:31 |
|
libsysguy |
*looks around* |
| 20:32 |
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rangi |
i bet it went it and came out :) |
| 20:32 |
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rangi |
we dont even have database.mysql anymore :) |
| 20:33 |
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rangi |
that was back in the database.psql and database.mysql days |
| 20:33 |
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cait |
wow |
| 20:33 |
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cait |
:) |
| 20:33 |
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libsysguy |
haha back in the day |
| 20:34 |
|
rangi |
check this out |
| 20:34 |
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rangi |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6eb13b4b41f683987 |
| 20:36 |
|
rangi |
http://photos.bigballofwax.co.[…]php?g2_itemId=190 |
| 20:36 |
|
rangi |
old school! |
| 20:36 |
|
rangi |
it was hella fast tho ;) |
| 20:36 |
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mbalmer |
mmm, curses |
| 20:37 |
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liw |
speed is a feature |
| 20:37 |
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mbalmer |
.. we lack |
| 20:37 |
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libsysguy |
mbalmer wb |
| 20:37 |
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rangi |
koha 1, everything except circ was web based |
| 20:38 |
|
rangi |
circ was using CDK |
| 20:38 |
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rangi |
then switched to Curses::UI |
| 20:38 |
|
rangi |
and flirted with Perl::Tk |
| 20:38 |
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wizzyrea |
did you bat your eyelashes at it? |
| 20:38 |
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* libsysguy |
pictures rangi doing to duck face |
| 20:39 |
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libsysguy |
the* |
| 20:40 |
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cait |
lol |
| 20:40 |
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slef |
better than o face |
| 20:40 |
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libsysguy |
^^ lol |
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wizzyrea |
245c, we do not show it on the XSLT display - why? |
| 20:41 |
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wizzyrea |
just cuzn no one has added it? |
| 20:42 |
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rangi |
http://photos.bigballofwax.co.[…]php?g2_itemId=159 <-- tk |
| 20:42 |
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wizzyrea |
ah it's so fun to look at our roots :) |
| 20:42 |
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cait |
wizzyrea: because we show all the persons and authors in another wa |
| 20:42 |
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cait |
y |
| 20:42 |
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cait |
wizzyrea: would be doubled up |
| 20:42 |
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wizzyrea |
hmmmmm |
| 20:42 |
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mbalmer |
maybe one day sth Qt based? |
| 20:42 |
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slef |
do they need dying? |
| 20:43 |
|
slef |
qt-- |
| 20:43 |
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cait |
wizzyrea: and I think we do that, because we want to link them |
| 20:43 |
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wizzyrea |
not the opac |
| 20:43 |
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wizzyrea |
the staff client |
| 20:43 |
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cait |
$c is like on the book... you don't want to build search links from that |
| 20:43 |
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wahanui |
the staff client is for the staff in the library, OPAC is for patrons |
| 20:43 |
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mbalmer |
Qt is a memory hog, it's a monster |
| 20:43 |
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cait |
results or details? |
| 20:43 |
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slef |
does qt still abuse the preprocessor? |
| 20:43 |
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wizzyrea |
details |
| 20:43 |
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cait |
we show authors there? |
| 20:43 |
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cait |
you confuse me! |
| 20:43 |
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cait |
but I am tired... so it's probably me :) |
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wizzyrea |
the c is statement of responsibility, different from authors |
| 20:44 |
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drojf |
hi #koha |
| 20:44 |
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rangi |
hi drojf |
| 20:44 |
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drojf |
hi rangi |
| 20:45 |
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cait |
wizzyrea: yes... but most of the time doubles with fields 1xx or 7xx? |
| 20:45 |
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wizzyrea |
apparently not in our catalog. |
| 20:46 |
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wizzyrea |
possibly they should be putting that #$%& somewhere else. |
| 20:46 |
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wizzyrea |
:P |
| 20:47 |
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cait |
what is in there? |
| 20:47 |
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cait |
in the $c you want to display? |
| 20:47 |
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wizzyrea |
http://screencast.com/t/kt21EqlN |
| 20:47 |
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cait |
hi drojf |
| 20:47 |
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cait |
more duct tape? |
| 20:47 |
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cait |
oh |
| 20:48 |
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cait |
one author and 2 illustrators? |
| 20:48 |
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drojf |
lol cait i'm actually here to see if it's really irc that kills my connection. i had no problems after the meeting |
| 20:48 |
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cait |
I hope it's not irc |
| 20:48 |
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cait |
wizzyrea: I think they are right where they are, but you can probably but them somewhere else too and give them a nice relator code |
| 20:49 |
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drojf |
it would be pretty weird if it was |
| 20:49 |
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wizzyrea |
yea, that's not going to work for us |
| 20:49 |
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wizzyrea |
because all of our records have it this way |
| 20:49 |
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cait |
speaking about relator codes - I am not sure I like how those diplay in opac now :( |
| 20:49 |
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* wizzyrea |
will have to do a custom xslt I guess. |
| 20:49 |
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cait |
wizzyrea: local xslt file... ? |
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* wizzyrea |
swears a lot |
| 20:49 |
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cait |
and it will double pu |
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cait |
with 100 |
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wizzyrea |
I guess they don't care. |
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wizzyrea |
or they think they don't care |
| 20:49 |
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wizzyrea |
they won't care until they have to stare at it. |
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cait |
until they see it :) |
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cait |
yeah |
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cait |
I know |
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* cait |
sends you cookies |
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wizzyrea |
lol |
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wizzyrea |
ty |
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wizzyrea |
so the next question - how to make the local xslt, just copy what we have and add to it? |
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cait |
yes you can do that |
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* wizzyrea |
will do that and probably end up swearing. |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
but the pref for local xslt is quite new |
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rangi |
luckily |
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slef |
wizzyrea: that seems simplest... or yould maybe xinclude the old one then override it but it depends how it is parsed and I've not read it recently |
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cait |
which version are you looking at? |
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wizzyrea |
3.6.4 |
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rangi |
yeah not in that |
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cait |
nope |
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rangi |
wont be in 3.6.x |
| 20:52 |
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cait |
so have to change your files |
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wizzyrea |
can't do that |
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wizzyrea |
(myself) |
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cait |
ah |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
then... you will have to tell them no |
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cait |
it's hard sometimes, but after you did it will feel good ;) |
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wizzyrea |
heh |
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wizzyrea |
except for the weeks and weeks and weeks of whining I'll have to endure. |
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wizzyrea |
;) |
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wizzyrea |
apparently we show it in "normal" view |
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cait |
wizzyrea: it's been like that forever |
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cait |
ever ever |
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wizzyrea |
no I know, we just switched to xslt today |
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wizzyrea |
from normal |
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cait |
ah |
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cait |
you could switch back |
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wizzyrea |
we could |
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wizzyrea |
it's true. |
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* wizzyrea |
labors against a sunk cost fallacy. |
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cait |
? |
| 20:56 |
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* wizzyrea |
says %$*& it and changes it back. |
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libsysguy |
sekjal you still around |
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bag |
libsysguy: you scared away sekjal |
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rangi |
heh |
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libsysguy |
heh |
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libsysguy |
yeah I guess so…sadly |
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libsysguy |
oh well…i guess I'll bug him about smart rules some other time |
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cait |
@later sekjal: could you take a look at 7175? it complements another change that's already in - bug 7178 |
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huginn |
cait: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
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cait |
@later tell sekjal: could you take a look at 7175? it complements another change that's already in - bug 7178 |
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huginn |
cait: The operation succeeded. |
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rangi |
http://soundcloud.com/bobby-bu[…]-the-nitty-gritty |
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rangi |
todays earworm |
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* wizzyrea |
bops about |
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libsysguy_afk |
misses rangi's music selections for the day |
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libsysguy_afk |
I should have come to the meeting today and voted for rangi to be the new music manager |
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rangi |
heh |
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wizzyrea |
later peps :) |
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libsysguy_afk |
laterz |
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cait |
later wizzyrea and good night all |
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rangi |
cya wizzyrea and cait |
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libsysguy |
anybody know where there is a good example of ajax usage for adding things in koha? |
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eythian |
what kind of things? |
| 22:12 |
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libsysguy |
well I am enhancing bug 5339 to be able to add/remove invoice items from the invoice details page |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5339 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Failed QA , Parcel closing in acq |
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libsysguy |
but i guess it could be similar to the smart rules |
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rangi |
sysprefs uses ajax |
| 22:13 |
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libsysguy |
only better because I think the smart rules do a pretty bad job of what they do |
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libsysguy |
hmm ok |
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rangi |
smart rules isnt ajax afaik |
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libsysguy |
yeah I know…thats why they are so bad :p |
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libsysguy |
jk |
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rangi |
also i think staging marc does some ajaxy stuffs |
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libsysguy |
staging would probably be a good example |
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libsysguy |
i just need somewhere to start to see how koha handles ajax |
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libsysguy |
and what I'd need to write |
| 22:18 |
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libsysguy |
I got a ticket the other day that would like this enhancement: 1.Fix publication date so that it is not in the DD/MM/YYYY format. You should be able to enter publication dates as year only, month and year, or season. |
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libsysguy |
how plausible is that |
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rangi |
lol |
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rangi |
not realistic |
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libsysguy |
haha |
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libsysguy |
yeah that is what I thought |
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libsysguy |
I don't even know where to start with that |
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rangi |
'up your dosage' |
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* rangi |
doesnt help |
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libsysguy |
i mean i guess you could add some logic to convert the season to a month |
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libsysguy |
but regardless its still recorded in ymd |
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rangi |
then you have to understand hemispheres |
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libsysguy |
lol thats true |
| 22:20 |
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rangi |
where was it published then influences how the season converts |
| 22:20 |
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rangi |
can o worms |
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libsysguy |
hmm ok, I'll see if i can divert this to my "special folder" |
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drojf |
hm. good thing: irc does not kill my internet connection. bad thing: i have no idea why it always goes crazy at irc meetings :( |
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drojf |
guess i will find out more at the next meeting :D good night #koha |
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rangi |
:) |
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rangi |
dpavlin_: are you still about/awake? :) |
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rangi |
libsysguy: http://soundcloud.com/virginma[…]-ramble-on-virgin |
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libsysguy |
w00t |
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libsysguy |
more rangi music |
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libsysguy |
seriously you should have a mix of the day and post it to the login message |
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rangi |
im not sure i could timesheet that :) |
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libsysguy |
heh |
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libsysguy |
ok im off for some thai food |
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rangi |
yum |
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libsysguy |
im sure ill be back later but for now…later :p |
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rangi |
9840 tests |
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rangi |
be nice to hit the 10000 |
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rangi |
in time for the 3.8.0 release |
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rangi |
eythian: 3.7.x builds ok now |
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rangi |
http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ckages/30/console |
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eythian |
oh cool, I'll do that when I get a chance |
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rangi |
as long as the depends are met, so need your patch too (or just install them in pbuilder) |
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rangi |
but it no longer is failing on the test |
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BSES |
Hello all - first timer - please excuse lapses in etiquette |
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BSES |
Can anyone help with quick question about subject headings - searching as a phrase |
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eythian |
BSES: you should ask your question, that way people will know if they can help :) |
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BSES |
We would like our subject headings to appear in OPAC as a searchable phrase including subheadings - is this possible? |
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BSES |
At the moment each division appears as a separate link |
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BSES |
Oh, apologises, we are using Koha 3.6 and are still in testing phase |
