Time Nick Message
23:58 BSES Oh, apologises, we are using Koha 3.6 and are still in testing phase
23:55 BSES At the moment each division appears as a separate link
23:54 BSES We would like our subject headings to appear in OPAC as a searchable phrase including subheadings - is this possible?
23:53 eythian BSES: you should ask your question, that way people will know if they can help :)
23:52 BSES Can anyone help with quick question about subject headings - searching as a phrase
23:52 BSES Hello all - first timer - please excuse lapses in etiquette
22:54 rangi but it no longer is failing on the test
22:54 rangi as long as the depends are met, so need your patch too (or just install them in pbuilder)
22:54 eythian oh cool, I'll do that when I get a chance
22:53 rangi http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Master_Packages/30/console
22:53 rangi eythian: 3.7.x builds ok now
22:49 rangi in time for the 3.8.0 release
22:49 rangi be nice to hit the 10000
22:49 rangi 9840 tests
22:47 libsysguy im sure ill be back later but for now…later :p
22:46 rangi yum
22:46 libsysguy ok im off for some thai food
22:45 libsysguy heh
22:44 rangi im not sure i could timesheet that :)
22:44 libsysguy seriously you should have a mix of the day and post it to the login message
22:43 libsysguy more rangi music
22:43 libsysguy w00t
22:43 rangi libsysguy: http://soundcloud.com/virginmagneticmaterial/led-zeppelin-ramble-on-virgin
22:41 rangi dpavlin_: are you still about/awake? :)
22:31 rangi :)
22:27 drojf guess i will find out more at the next meeting :D good night #koha
22:24 drojf hm. good thing: irc does not kill my internet connection. bad thing: i have no idea why it always goes crazy at irc meetings :(
22:21 libsysguy hmm ok, I'll see if i can divert this to my "special folder"
22:20 rangi can o worms
22:20 rangi where was it published then influences how the season converts
22:20 libsysguy lol thats true
22:20 rangi then you have to understand hemispheres
22:20 libsysguy but regardless its still recorded in ymd
22:20 libsysguy i mean i guess you could add some logic to convert the season to a month
22:19 * rangi doesnt help
22:19 rangi 'up your dosage'
22:19 libsysguy I don't even know where to start with that
22:19 libsysguy yeah that is what I thought
22:19 libsysguy haha
22:19 rangi not realistic
22:19 rangi lol
22:18 libsysguy how plausible is that
22:18 libsysguy I got a ticket the other day that would like this enhancement: 1. Fix publication date so that it is not in the DD/MM/YYYY format. You should be able to enter publication dates as year only, month and year, or season.
22:14 libsysguy and what I'd need to write
22:14 libsysguy i just need somewhere to start to see how koha handles ajax
22:14 libsysguy staging would probably be a good example
22:13 rangi also i think staging marc does some ajaxy stuffs
22:13 libsysguy jk
22:13 libsysguy yeah I know…thats why they are so bad :p
22:13 rangi smart rules isnt ajax afaik
22:13 libsysguy hmm ok
22:13 libsysguy only better because I think the smart rules do a pretty bad job of what they do
22:13 rangi sysprefs uses ajax
22:12 libsysguy but i guess it could be similar to the smart rules
22:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5339 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Failed QA , Parcel closing in acq
22:12 libsysguy well I am enhancing bug 5339 to be able to add/remove invoice items from the invoice details page
22:11 eythian what kind of things?
22:09 libsysguy anybody know where there is a good example of ajax usage for adding things in koha?
22:00 rangi cya wizzyrea and cait
22:00 cait later wizzyrea and good night all
21:59 libsysguy_afk laterz
21:59 wizzyrea later peps :)
21:58 rangi heh
21:58 libsysguy_afk I should have come to the meeting today and voted for rangi to be the new music manager
21:58 libsysguy_afk misses rangi's music selections for the day
21:50 * wizzyrea bops about
21:49 rangi todays earworm
21:49 rangi http://soundcloud.com/bobby-busnach/shirley-ellis-the-nitty-gritty
21:14 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
21:14 cait @later tell sekjal: could you take a look at 7175? it complements another change that's already in - bug 7178
21:14 huginn cait: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
21:14 cait @later sekjal: could you take a look at 7175? it complements another change that's already in - bug 7178
21:07 libsysguy oh well…i guess I'll bug him about smart rules some other time
21:07 libsysguy yeah I guess so…sadly
21:07 libsysguy heh
21:07 rangi heh
21:07 bag libsysguy: you scared away sekjal
20:56 libsysguy sekjal you still around
20:56 * wizzyrea says %$*& it and changes it back.
20:56 cait ?
20:56 * wizzyrea labors against a sunk cost fallacy.
20:55 wizzyrea it's true.
20:55 wizzyrea we could
20:55 cait you could switch back
20:55 cait ah
20:55 wizzyrea from normal
20:55 wizzyrea no I know, we just switched to xslt today
20:55 cait ever ever
20:55 cait wizzyrea: it's been like that forever
20:55 wizzyrea apparently we show it in "normal" view
20:54 wizzyrea ;)
20:54 wizzyrea except for the weeks and weeks and weeks of whining I'll have to endure.
20:54 wizzyrea heh
20:54 cait it's hard sometimes, but after you did it will feel good ;)
20:54 cait then... you will have to tell them no
20:53 cait hm
20:53 cait ah
20:53 wizzyrea (myself)
20:52 wizzyrea can't do that
20:52 cait so have to change your files
20:52 rangi wont be in 3.6.x
20:52 cait nope
20:52 rangi yeah not in that
20:52 wizzyrea 3.6.4
20:52 cait which version are you looking at?
20:52 slef wizzyrea: that seems simplest... or yould maybe xinclude the old one then override it but it depends how it is parsed and I've not read it recently
20:52 rangi luckily
20:52 cait but the pref for local xslt is quite new
20:52 cait hm
20:52 * wizzyrea will do that and probably end up swearing.
20:52 cait yes you can do that
20:50 wizzyrea so the next question - how to make the local xslt, just copy what we have and add to it?
20:50 wizzyrea ty
20:50 wizzyrea lol
20:50 * cait sends you cookies
20:50 cait I know
20:50 cait yeah
20:49 cait until they see it :)
20:49 wizzyrea they won't care until they have to stare at it.
20:49 wizzyrea or they think they don't care
20:49 wizzyrea I guess they don't care.
20:49 cait with 100
20:49 cait and it will double pu
20:49 * wizzyrea swears a lot
20:49 cait wizzyrea: local xslt file... ?
20:49 * wizzyrea will have to do a custom xslt I guess.
20:49 cait speaking about relator codes - I am not sure I like how those diplay in opac now :(
20:49 wizzyrea because all of our records have it this way
20:49 wizzyrea yea, that's not going to work for us
20:49 drojf it would be pretty weird if it was
20:48 cait wizzyrea: I think they are right where they are, but you can probably but them somewhere else too and give them a nice relator code
20:48 cait I hope it's not irc
20:48 drojf lol cait i'm actually here to see if it's really irc that kills my connection. i had no problems after the meeting
20:48 cait one author and 2 illustrators?
20:47 cait oh
20:47 cait more duct tape?
20:47 cait hi drojf
20:47 wizzyrea http://screencast.com/t/kt21EqlN
20:47 cait in the $c you want to display?
20:47 cait what is in there?
20:46 wizzyrea :P
20:46 wizzyrea possibly they should be putting that #$%& somewhere else.
20:45 wizzyrea apparently not in our catalog.
20:45 cait wizzyrea: yes... but most of the time doubles with fields 1xx or 7xx?
20:44 drojf hi rangi
20:44 rangi hi drojf
20:44 drojf hi #koha
20:44 wizzyrea the c is statement of responsibility, different from authors
20:43 cait but I am tired... so it's probably me :)
20:43 cait you confuse me!
20:43 cait we show authors there?
20:43 wizzyrea details
20:43 slef does qt still abuse the preprocessor?
20:43 cait results or details?
20:43 mbalmer Qt is a memory hog, it's a monster
20:43 wahanui the staff client is for the staff in the library, OPAC is for patrons
20:43 cait $c is like on the book... you don't want to build search links from that
20:43 wizzyrea the staff client
20:43 wizzyrea not the opac
20:43 cait wizzyrea: and I think we do that, because we want to link them
20:43 slef qt--
20:42 slef do they need dying?
20:42 mbalmer maybe one day sth Qt based?
20:42 wizzyrea hmmmmm
20:42 cait wizzyrea: would be doubled up
20:42 cait y
20:42 cait wizzyrea: because we show all the persons and authors in another wa
20:42 wizzyrea ah it's so fun to look at our roots :)
20:42 rangi http://photos.bigballofwax.co.nz/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=159 <-- tk
20:41 wizzyrea just cuzn no one has added it?
20:41 wizzyrea 245c, we do not show it on the XSLT display - why?
20:40 libsysguy ^^ lol
20:40 slef better than o face
20:40 cait lol
20:39 libsysguy the*
20:38 * libsysguy pictures rangi doing to duck face
20:38 wizzyrea did you bat your eyelashes at it?
20:38 rangi and flirted with Perl::Tk
20:38 rangi then switched to Curses::UI
20:38 rangi circ was using CDK
20:37 rangi koha 1, everything except circ was web based
20:37 libsysguy mbalmer wb
20:37 mbalmer .. we lack
20:37 liw speed is a feature
20:36 mbalmer mmm, curses
20:36 rangi it was hella fast tho ;)
20:36 rangi old school!
20:36 rangi http://photos.bigballofwax.co.nz/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=190
20:34 rangi http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=kumara.git;a=blob;f=telnet/startint.pl;h=e47898e264cd2e7f59043f95e37095d2b4cf2910;hb=052cfb3dffd5f0b633d45ca6eb13b4b41f683987
20:34 rangi check this out
20:33 libsysguy haha back in the day
20:33 cait :)
20:33 cait wow
20:33 rangi that was back in the database.psql and database.mysql days
20:32 rangi we dont even have database.mysql anymore :)
20:32 rangi i bet it went it and came out :)
20:31 libsysguy *looks around*
20:31 libsysguy LOL man who closed that one
20:31 gmcharlt it's still missing! ;)
20:31 * gmcharlt checks
20:30 libsysguy i guess so
20:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1 major, P2, ---, chris, CLOSED FIXED, Missing uploadedmarc table definition
20:30 libsysguy is there a bug 1
20:30 libsysguy sweet
20:30 sekjal libsysguy: I'm filing a bug now for removing C4::Dates from C4::Circ
20:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5339 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Parcel closing in acq
20:29 libsysguy as soon as I finish modifying bug 5339 to work for my capstone project :p
20:29 libsysguy sekjal I may make a run though there are see what I can clean up
20:29 libsysguy in west Philadelphia born and raised on the playground is were I spent most of my days
20:28 wizzyrea my parents are not so hard core, but the simpsons was deemed "filthy" along with fresh prince of bel aire
20:28 libsysguy :'(
20:28 libsysguy no idea
20:28 libsysguy also we didn't have cable/satellite till I was in highschool
20:27 rangi itchy and scratchy?
20:27 libsysguy yup :-\
20:27 rangi im guessing family guy was out too :)
20:27 sekjal that can be replaced with KohaDates plugin
20:27 libsysguy yeah my parents are hard core conservatives and forbid me from watching that show
20:27 sekjal C4/circ also uses format_date in two places, in the needsconfirmation message
20:27 * rangi recycles old memes
20:27 libsysguy lol
20:26 libsysguy and in smaller words...
20:26 rangi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXesMkAYh44
20:26 libsysguy maybe if you speak slower :p
20:26 libsysguy maybe…or too slow
20:26 rangi too young for that eh?
20:26 libsysguy rangi you talking to me?
20:25 libsysguy o_0
20:23 rangi your ideas are intriguing to me, and i wish to subscribe to your newsletter
20:22 * libsysguy hates how facets are on the left and then one click later the layout has changed
20:22 libsysguy the only thing I've used that for is to move to the other side of the page
20:22 rangi :)
20:22 rangi until you guys fix that for me
20:21 libsysguy i don't ever look at whats in the if
20:21 rangi i do that with the next/previous/browse thing
20:21 libsysguy i didn't catch it for a good half hour when debugging
20:21 sekjal I've done that
20:21 sekjal lol
20:21 libsysguy i found an if(1 == 0) { some code that he wanted to comment out}
20:20 libsysguy speaking of a never true thing…something you might appreciate that i found in one of my friends code
20:20 sekjal another call to ->today() which is commented out
20:20 sekjal and one call to C4::Dates->regexp which is in a conditional with a Never True thing
20:20 libsysguy i have found quite a few of those laying around
20:19 sekjal there is one called to C4::Date->new(), which is then not utilized anywhere
20:19 libsysguy lol
20:19 libsysguy not so sick :'(
20:19 sekjal most of it is documentation
20:18 libsysguy sick!
20:18 sekjal libsysguy: I think we can remove all of the C4::Dates dependencies from C4::Circ now
20:15 rangi hehe
20:15 wahanui julian_m was last seen on #koha 2 days, 13 hours, 21 minutes and 1 seconds ago, saying: hello magnuse [Mon Apr 2 06:54:09 2012]
20:15 libsysguy seen julian_m
20:15 cait but I am sure anitsirk deserved one
20:14 cait that doesn't count
20:14 rangi :)
20:14 rangi does that count?
20:14 rangi i gave one to a german
20:14 cait rangi: and no buns for us? :)
20:09 oleonard gone
20:08 sekjal back
20:07 rangi and with a hot cross bun
20:07 rangi back
19:56 libsysguy i do what i can cait :)
19:55 cait you make me laugh :)
19:55 cait libsysguy++
19:51 rangi My bus stop bbiab
19:50 libsysguy starving developer lol
19:50 libsysguy :'(
19:50 libsysguy wants food
19:47 cait mmh pizza
19:46 rangi Yay pizza Thursday
19:43 libsysguy this is really good stuff
19:42 libsysguy I need to send Julian a beer for the work he did on acquisitions
19:42 cait makes sense
19:42 cait aah
19:42 libsysguy Points Plus is the name of our accounting software
19:42 cait what is that? :)
19:41 cait :)
19:41 cait huh?
19:40 libsysguy :p
19:40 libsysguy well I can't really call it "Points Plus ID"
19:39 cait librarians love notes :)
19:39 libsysguy heh
19:39 libsysguy they want it to add an account id for our accounting system
19:39 cait we have notes everywhere
19:39 cait makes sense to me
19:39 libsysguy for the shipment
19:39 cait for each thing you receive? for for the shipment?
19:39 libsysguy i thought there was one
19:39 libsysguy yeah
19:39 cait like a note field?
19:39 libsysguy like an invoicenotes field
19:38 libsysguy anyway…my library wanted to know if it would be ok to add an additional field for extra data in an invoice
19:38 cait it happens
19:38 cait but we are moving fast now with big changes
19:38 cait libsysguy: noone does
19:38 libsysguy hehe
19:38 wahanui question is, like, "What is the meaning of life, the universe and everything?"
19:38 libsysguy question
19:38 libsysguy cait
19:35 * libsysguy doesn't like rebasing so much
19:33 cait wizzyrea: looked at the first one but was not so easy to fix, so back to rebasing
19:33 wizzyrea boo
19:33 cait wizzyrea: were real conflicts :( noted on the bug
19:33 wizzyrea mornin rangi
19:32 cait morning rangi
19:31 wahanui ...but morning is a state of mind....
19:31 libsysguy wahanui morning is a slow state of mind
19:31 wahanui morning is probably a state of mind.
19:31 libsysguy morning
19:31 rangi Morning
19:30 libsysguy im just working on acquisitions for my senior project and thought it might be cool to get it moved over
19:29 cait ah ok
19:29 libsysguy but we don't want to rush it
19:29 libsysguy so if we could phase it out it would be good
19:28 libsysguy I think what sekjal meant was that we added the DateTime pacakge as a dependency and it does everything and more that C4::Dates does
19:28 cait confusing them then
19:28 cait ah
19:28 libsysguy but I don't see Dates.pm
19:28 libsysguy there is a DatesUtils.pm
19:28 cait sense
19:28 cait hm ignore me - i don't make sene
19:27 cait I mean the dates plugin?
19:27 cait not sure, but I think dates got moved to the koha namespace when the plugin did?
19:27 cait libsysguy: hm
19:20 sekjal time to talk about Falcons! brb
19:17 libsysguy I won't change anything yet but does anybody else that is on have any opinions about the Dates situation?
19:16 libsysguy fair enough
19:16 sekjal but you may want to check with some other developers on that, too
19:16 sekjal libsysguy: looking at what C4::Dates has to offer, I think we can start working to phase it out
19:15 libsysguy [off] I think he is just going to start just lurking
19:15 wizzyrea [off] he was here earlier, but left. I thought our publicly logged chat made him uncomfortable. Who knows.
19:14 libsysguy or if we should be making changes as we come across them
19:14 libsysguy but I don't know if that should be a separate ticket
19:14 libsysguy and I thought about making the changes while I was working on it
19:14 libsysguy I was about to start working on some acqui stuff and it has heavy use on C4::dates
19:13 sekjal now that we have a dep on DateTime
19:13 sekjal I think we may eventually be in a place to phase out C4::Dates... but not quite yet
19:13 libsysguy i guess I've always been a little confused by the two
19:13 libsysguy or is it just C4:Calendar that is being replaced
19:12 libsysguy is Dates being replaced by Koha::Calendar
19:12 sekjal shoot
19:12 libsysguy sekjal question
19:11 libsysguy on a seperate note, who has seen the new HUD from google
19:11 libsysguy [off] heh maybe is a database conflict with a mysqlism
19:09 wizzyrea real conflicts or db update conflicts
19:07 cait 5335 is conflicting too :(
19:05 libsysguy im already crazy :p
19:05 cait well... and it makes you go crazy
19:05 libsysguy basically giving you type 2 diabetes for the day
19:05 libsysguy cait usually….but I read today that not sleeping well or at all inhibits your bodies ability to produce insulin
19:04 * jcamins heads home.
19:04 cait libsysguy: that works for you?
19:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5335 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , More granular VAT
19:04 jcamins Bug 5335
19:02 libsysguy i usually just forego sleep to get more stuff done
19:00 libsysguy ^^
18:59 * oleonard bemoans the lack of hours in the day
18:45 * libsysguy sharpens code pitchfork
18:45 cait heh
18:45 * libsysguy forms a mob
18:45 jcamins ^^ ... and adds poison to the candy before giving it out to kittens.
18:44 jcamins libsysguy: among other problems.
18:44 oleonard It's the one that take candy from children every time it runs
18:44 sekjal :)
18:44 libsysguy wait…is that the one with the memory leaks?
18:44 libsysguy haha poor search.pm
18:43 oleonard Except that time I asked him to re-write Search.pm. Slacker.
18:43 libsysguy sekjal++
18:43 libsysguy lol sekjal is always good about getting to something if you request it
18:42 cait and bribe sekjal with chocolate :)
18:42 libsysguy haha
18:42 cait :)
18:42 cait libsysguy: keep testing
18:42 cait I think he does not count weekends?
18:42 libsysguy i don't know ho wto solve that
18:42 cait heh me neither :)
18:42 libsysguy but I feel bad because i sign off on it and then if it gets to QA its already out of date
18:42 oleonard "Friday/Monday" I thought he said.... Not sure what that means :)
18:41 libsysguy yeah well its basically parcel that is always in conflict
18:41 cait but all for the better :)
18:41 cait it#s one of the most active modules I think
18:41 cait libsysguy: lots of changes pushed there
18:41 cait or thursday?
18:41 cait oleonard: was thinking perhaps to start on opac - what did paul say? friday?
18:41 libsysguy but it seems like every time Julian rebases it, it goes out of date again
18:41 oleonard All in the staff client
18:41 libsysguy I am trying cait
18:41 oleonard I've done includes, Acqui, Admin, Authorities, Cataloging, Catalogue
18:41 libsysguy ugh no
18:40 cait is that in yet?
18:40 cait we are getting there
18:40 cait yeah
18:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5339 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Parcel closing in acq
18:40 cait perhaps it's a missing parameter or something
18:40 libsysguy bug 5339 makes acquisitions so much better
18:40 cait cool :)
18:40 cait oleonard: I lost track - how many have you done now? and is opac done? (capitalisation)
18:40 libsysguy so ill see if I can patch that
18:39 libsysguy and it makes sense to do it that way
18:39 libsysguy ok that is what the person at my library thinks too
18:39 cait should be the shipment date
18:39 cait I think it sounds wrong
18:39 libsysguy is that how it is supposed to be or is that supposed to be set to the shipment date/
18:38 libsysguy when you receive a shipment and you go to the next page koha automatically assumes that you received the shipment today
18:38 cait ok :)
18:38 cait ohoh
18:38 libsysguy I have a question
18:38 cait hi libsysguy
18:38 libsysguy hi cait
18:38 cait I am here
18:38 wahanui cait was last seen on #koha 13 minutes and 12 seconds ago, saying: waves [Wed Apr 4 18:24:18 2012]
18:38 libsysguy seen cait?
18:37 jcamins cait does.
18:37 libsysguy does anybody on mess with acqui much?
18:30 wahanui I LIKE SCIENCE
18:30 jcamins wizzyrea?
18:30 jcamins Did someone say...
18:30 sekjal FOR SCIENCE!
18:30 * oleonard is all about being fully scientific!
18:27 sekjal mixing Plack testing and other bug testing would give less than fully scientific results
18:27 jcamins I think dpavlin has a plan for making it work, so once Plack and sysprefs play nice together I'll revisit the question of Plack.
18:26 oleonard Testing does involve a lot of pref-changing
18:25 jcamins Restarting the web server several times to test a feature seems like a huge nuisance.
18:25 jcamins oleonard: the fact that Plack doesn't catch syspref changes has persuaded me that I don't want to run it on my development system yet.
18:25 jcamins oleonard: my understanding is that it's not really an "off-chance' that you'll notice bugs in Plack.
18:24 * cait waves
18:23 oleonard Is it time for test-minded folks like myself to be running Plack on the off-chance I notice a bug? Or is it not there yet?
18:14 alaquerre Yes that's what I was talking about... Library need to place the RFID in place.
18:13 jcamins alaquerre: I don't use self-check much. oleonard knows more about it. I presume it would work with RFID, not so well with magnetic strips.
18:13 sekjal alaquerre: no, our self-check doesn't have a way to connect to an anti-theft detector machine
18:13 sekjal that could be reused in the standard client, as well
18:13 sekjal jcamins: if nothing else, it'd force us to write a very efficient web service for circulation protocols... one that's as fast and optimized as possible
18:12 alaquerre anti-theif
18:12 alaquerre jcamins: really... self-checkout exist in koha ? Is it link to the security stuff ( dont know how to say it in english) so the alarm wont bell when you get out?
18:11 jcamins (not that I'd object if someone had an implementation, of course)
18:10 jcamins alaquerre: I'm talking about mobile circ on the staff client not seeming very practical.
18:10 jcamins alaquerre: that's on the OPAC.
18:10 jcamins sekjal: right, that was subsumed in my "inventory" idea.
18:10 jcamins (or a regular circ workstation)
18:10 jcamins I don't see how it would be faster to use a phone than a self-check machine.
18:10 oleonard That's self-checkout, and we have a web-based version of it
18:09 alaquerre So user is taking what ever document, scan barcode from his smartphone and get out without going at the frontdesk :-)
18:09 sekjal that's exactly what I want to do first for my home library
18:09 sekjal well, actually... mobile cataloging by scanning a EAN/UPC/ISBN barcode
18:08 alaquerre FYI : Circ from opac-user would be much better but library need to be linked to the security stuff. ( That's a long term project here )
18:07 jcamins The thing about circ, though, is if you want to do mobile circ, you want to do it because it makes things faster.
18:07 sekjal mobile cataloging support.... not a high priority
18:07 sekjal doing things that really make use of the mobile hardware and form factor
18:07 sekjal a built-in foot-traffic or headcount tool would also be handy
18:06 sekjal for inventory, rebarcoding projects, and even, yes, circ
18:06 sekjal using the camera to scan barcodes would be the main trick, I think
18:06 sekjal jcamins: I think the staff client mobile app would be a completely different beast
18:05 jcamins But the rest? Circulation, etc.? I don't really see a point.
18:05 jcamins *That* would be useful.
18:05 jcamins Unless it had an inventory tool.
18:04 * jcamins doesn't particularly care about a mobile skin for the staff client, to be honest.
18:03 sekjal as I said, will be interested to see the patch
18:03 sekjal how it's managed in the staff client will be the real trick, I think... I can think of a couple ways to do it
18:02 sekjal yes, the mobile CSS technique has the possibility of being very elegantly simple at the abstract level
18:02 kyleh I must say, this seems like a better alternative than the mobile templates variation I had proposed.
18:01 wizzyrea yup yup
18:00 alaquerre :-) I dont know all the implementations but I understand it's very easy to put in place. Guys from Libeo has work on it and we asked them to make sure it can be push out to the community so I am pretty sure it will be doable. After that you guys have the control ;-)
17:59 wizzyrea hehe sok
17:59 jcamins wizzyrea: oh, sorry, misunderstood.
17:59 wizzyrea jcamins: no, what I'm saying is " unless you sent a patch, it effectively was never written"
17:58 jcamins (important proviso there)
17:58 jcamins It seems unlikely a mobile interface would be rejected *if it were easy to test and incorporate*.
17:58 wizzyrea like i said, seems unlikely
17:58 jcamins wizzyrea: that was in the subjunctive. It definitely didn't happen. :P
17:57 sekjal but that could be done in HTML5/CSS3/JQuery, and then compiled for whatever platform with Phonegap
17:57 alaquerre Well, we will submit the patch ounce it's clean and that we like our display... If the community refuse it that's okay :-)
17:57 wizzyrea patch or it didn't happen :P
17:57 sekjal mobile app would only be worthwhile for the staff client
17:57 kyleh alaquerre++
17:57 * jcamins would go with the mobile CSS option.
17:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Authority matching algorithm improvements
17:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7766 normal, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , C4/Auth.pm emits debug output to STDOUT
17:57 jenkins_koha * colin.campbell: Stop unnecessary warnings in get_language
17:57 jenkins_koha * mjr: bug 7284: fix package build problem, move BEGIN into new
17:57 sekjal but less optimized on a content/function level
17:57 jenkins_koha * dpavlin: Bug 7766 - C4/Auth.pm: emit DEBUG output to STDERR
17:57 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #698: SUCCESS in 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/698/
17:57 jcamins I may do a patch to add an OPACIncludeJS syspref.
17:57 sekjal mobile CSS will be much easier to do
17:56 sekjal two different levels possible: mobile CSS, or mobile template
17:56 jcamins (no, I have no intention of working on a mobile interface)
17:56 * wizzyrea has more confidence in yours being submitted in a testable way
17:56 wizzyrea :)
17:56 jcamins wizzyrea: who knows, maybe mine could be the first!
17:56 sekjal at least not in a format that's viable for the testing process
17:56 wizzyrea lots done, none submitted
17:55 wizzyrea none have been submitted
17:55 wizzyrea yea, at this point, the implementation taht's submitted first will probably be the one that goes in
17:55 sekjal alaqueree: I'm interested to see the patch
17:55 slef I think it's normal or major
17:55 oleonard Seems like a good start alaquerre
17:55 slef ok, what severity is Browse Results being easy to confuse?
17:54 sekjal it works. the content isn't necessarily optimized on page load, but CSS can do a lot of good here
17:54 alaquerre sekjal : Yes. We did not have the ressource ($) to do template.
17:52 sekjal alaquerre: ah, so mobile CSS with screensize detection, rather than a completely separate mobile template
17:52 jcamins Heh. I would not have expected it.
17:52 kyleh I guess my mind is getting addled in my old age, or I need some caffiene
17:52 slef stored, not implemented
17:52 slef if you think that it's implemented in the session, you'd expect that, but that's more in-depth knowledge than OPAC users will have
17:51 slef if someone opens two search result pages in two tabs, it confuses the Browse Results thing
17:51 * kyleh has a head crash
17:51 jcamins slef: uh-oh?
17:50 slef oh wow
17:50 * jcamins scratches his head in confusion.
17:50 wizzyrea sekjal = ian
17:49 kyleh sekjal: looks like Ian beat you to it.
17:49 jcamins You know what would be useful? An OPACIncludeJS syspref for javascript code that is standard to all one's Koha installations.
17:49 alaquerre You won't have access to the user section, but user will be able to renew and reserve document.
17:49 kyleh sekjal: np, glad to get it though quickly.
17:48 jcamins I should mobile-ify my OPACs.
17:47 sekjal kyleh: thanks for the followup on 7641; I'm QAing now
17:47 slef jcamins: yeah, worksforme on page=2 too.
17:47 alaquerre Open it using smartphone or shrink your browser so you can have the mobile display to kick in.
17:46 alaquerre Hi everyone, wanted to share that we have launch yesterday Opac-Mobile in beta-testing on a production site. We worked on it last couple of weeks. This mobile will be released to the community short term -- I would say couples weeks. We would like to have feedback from you guys to see what you think about it. -- levis.koha.ccsr.qc.ca
17:45 slef checking page=2 now
17:45 slef jcamins: maybe. worksforme
17:45 jcamins Was it a stale cache on my browser?
17:45 jcamins page=1
17:44 slef jcamins: on page>1 or on page=1 too?
17:43 * slef switches back to his branch
17:43 wizzyrea oh yea, breaking *all* of the paging is bad.
17:43 jcamins There was no paging at all.
17:43 slef jcamins: ah.
17:43 jcamins It was on every single result.
17:43 jcamins wasn't *just*
17:42 jcamins slef: when I tried your patch, the problem wasn't on the 20th result.
17:42 slef wizzyrea: yeah. So I think it's a pre-existing problem. I'm putting it back to Needs Signoff.
17:42 jcamins slef: oh, well... it probably shouldn't bother.
17:42 wizzyrea and the problem with your patch is that paging through details doesn't work with the patch?
17:42 slef jcamins: that's what's failing
17:42 slef jcamins: the code is there for trying to go across the boundary
17:42 jcamins Yes.
17:42 wizzyrea right, that's the real problem
17:41 slef and it Doesn'tWork more spectacularly on page 2 first link than it did on page 1 last link
17:41 wizzyrea or whatever the boundary is
17:41 jcamins But it never went past the 20-result boundary.
17:41 wizzyrea it does do that
17:41 wizzyrea right
17:41 jcamins slef: I mean, it went between different details pages within the 20 results just retrieved.
17:41 slef jcamins: It Just Doesn't Work.
17:41 slef jcamins: the code tried to.
17:41 wizzyrea at least, it makes sense to me - it can't next into the next page
17:41 jcamins slef: it never went between pages.
17:40 slef I don't think this feature worked to start with.
17:40 wizzyrea but I think that makes sense
17:40 jcamins slef: my theory is at least it's better now than it was before we had any paging.
17:40 slef yeah, the Next is greyed out on result 20 on wizzyrea's catalog-test
17:40 slef pages that change depending how you reach them... if it's not a HTTP status code change (like 200 OK v 403 Unauthorized), I think it's a bad idea
17:39 wizzyrea hee
17:38 slef which also sucks so let's not have that fight now
17:38 wizzyrea on the 1st result of 2nd page
17:38 wizzyrea oh, and there's the error
17:38 slef wizzyrea: it's in the session, so I need to do a search first
17:37 wizzyrea 3.6.4, btw
17:37 wizzyrea http://catalog-test.nexpresslibrary.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=29601
17:37 slef wizzyrea: do you have previous/next on the 20th and 21st result?
17:37 slef ah, enabling GroupResults switches this off
17:37 slef if (!C4::Context->preference('NoZebra') && !$build_grouped_results) {
17:36 jcamins slef: no, it has nothing to do with pazpar2.
17:36 * slef goes and rereads the code
17:36 slef mine is set to Don't use
17:36 slef oh wait
17:36 wizzyrea that could be.
17:36 wizzyrea or maybe it's only not running on the test server.
17:36 slef wizzyrea++
17:36 wizzyrea good thing I did that on the test server.
17:36 wizzyrea well mine just bombs entirely. pazpar must not be running.
17:35 * slef checks his
17:35 slef then you won't get the previous/next box I think
17:35 wizzyrea s
17:35 * wizzyrea wonders how it changes thing
17:34 wizzyrea no, I don't have that on
17:34 * wizzyrea checks that
17:34 slef and do you have OPACGroupResults or whatever it is called?
17:33 slef (if you have 20 results/page)
17:33 wizzyrea but doesn't give an error
17:33 slef wizzyrea: what about the 20th?
17:33 wizzyrea huh, on 3.6.4, the 1st result doesn't show the previous/next links at all
17:32 jcamins slef: yes, certainly. The bug I was referring to is that Next/Previous seemed to be grayed out altogether with the patch.
17:32 slef so I think Next/Previous not working on last/first results is another, less severe bug.
17:31 slef next did not work in master
17:31 slef someone said it worked in 3.6
17:31 slef that's why we had the error
17:31 slef heh, no, of course it didn't
17:30 slef I'm now testing master to see if previous worked then, just to reassure me.
17:29 slef There are lines like delete $arrParamsBusc{'previous'} if (exists($arrParamsBusc{'previous'})); and I don't see the reason why.
17:29 slef jcamins: I don't really see how this code is supposed to work because it's undocumented and half of it is in Spanish which I'm not brilliant at.
17:26 jcamins slef: did you figure out the problem, or is it worse than you realized?
17:25 * slef starts swearing like a trooper
17:19 libsysguy I've got to run for a bit…bbl #koha
17:18 slef it looks to me like it throws the data of all except the last server away
17:18 libsysguy sekjal it should be as simple as adding a check for the mode and the holiday
17:18 slef ok I don't understand how the loop around opac-detail.pl:151 ever worked
17:18 libsysguy ahh, I didn't check for those but I can write a followup
17:17 sekjal there are a couple values of finesMode syspref that don't actually charge the patron
17:17 jcamins It's marked as a blocker.
17:17 jcamins slef: to test.
17:17 slef jcamins: were you looking at this to patch it, or to test?
17:17 * slef fails his own patch to bug 7894
17:17 libsysguy oh for the calendar check?
17:16 sekjal what if fines mode isn't 'production'?
17:16 libsysguy shoot
17:16 sekjal oh, though, followup:
17:16 sekjal no problem. glad to have it in. allows for more options with fine usage.
17:16 slef very kind of magnus_away not to put that as Failed QA
17:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7894 blocker, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Broken detail page for first link on page 2 from search result page in OPAC
17:16 slef ok, while oleonard is recoiling in horror at the fallback search, I'm going to see if I can figure out bug 7894 some more
17:15 libsysguy thanks for QA-ing that
17:15 libsysguy sekjal i guess now I just have to pass the tab test :p
17:14 wizzyrea he's practically human nowadays
17:14 jcamins lol
17:14 wizzyrea lol
17:14 slef (and did anyone spot the fourth line of http://meetings.koha-community.org/2012/koha.2012-04-04-10.00.log.html ? ahem)
17:13 wizzyrea lol.
17:13 libsysguy i am going to put that on my door at work
17:13 libsysguy ^^ LOL
17:13 wahanui LOVE YOU TOO MATE but shut up and let me work
17:13 slef wahanui: ILOVEYOU
17:13 wahanui hmmm... i am a bot
17:13 slef wahanui: you?
17:13 * wizzyrea giggles
17:13 libsysguy *for wizzy*
17:13 wahanui i think slef is an avid cyclist
17:13 slef me?
17:12 wahanui well, libsysguy is Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck
17:12 libsysguy me?
17:12 wizzyrea *nod*
17:12 slef meeting log is http://meetings.koha-community.org/2012/koha.2012-04-04-10.00.html
17:12 wahanui I LIKE SCIENCE
17:12 wizzyrea me?
17:12 wahanui rumour has it jcamins is an outstanding cook. or well-traveled and brilliant. or trying to think of a solution or awesome fixing broken email notifications or the wizard that forges queries in the deep fires of zebra or against all things wine
17:12 jcamins me?
17:12 libsysguy oh man I forgot about the meeting this morning
17:12 jcamins meeting logs?
17:12 slef meeting log?
17:11 slef it's ignoring open channel for a bit
17:11 wizzyrea there we go
17:11 * wizzyrea always thinks of huginn as a boy-person
17:11 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7494 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mjr, Needs Signoff , Use partial barcode or callnumber as a fallback for the barcode search in checkout
17:11 slef huginn: bug 7494
17:11 wizzyrea well he'd be right :)
17:11 slef him? her? it?
17:11 wizzyrea yea
17:11 slef wizzyrea: I think huginn thinks we've been abusing him.
17:11 libsysguy including by me when I frist started
17:11 wizzyrea he'll have none of that nonsense
17:11 libsysguy yeah that question has been raised a lot actually
17:10 wizzyrea bug 7494
17:10 sekjal libsysguy: thanks, that's what I figured, but I wanted to raise the question to be sure
17:10 huginn slef: downloading the Perl source
17:10 slef huginn is punch-drunk
17:10 wizzyrea oh poor huginn
17:10 wizzyrea bug 7494
17:10 libsysguy tried to wait till the oleonard spam was done
17:10 jenkins_koha Starting build #698 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
17:10 libsysguy sekjal, no. it would just recalculate the overdue amount and overwrite the database entry
17:09 slef arrrrgh oleonard has spammed us to death ;)
17:09 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 2780 - Capitalize strings consistently (Acquisitions pages)
17:09 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 2780 - Capitalize strings consistently (miscellaneous)
17:09 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 2780 - Capitalize strings consistently (Tools)
17:09 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 2780 - Capitalize strings consistently (Reports)
17:09 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 2780 - Capitalize strings consistently (Administration)
17:09 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 2780 - Capitalize strings consistently (Cataloging)
17:09 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 2780 - Capitalize strings consistently (Serials)
17:09 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 2780 - Capitalize strings consistently (Patrons)
17:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2780 minor, P3, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Capitalize strings consistently
17:09 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 2780 - Capitalize strings consistently (Patron cards)
17:09 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 2780 - Capitalize strings consistently (Labels)
17:09 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 2780 - Capitalize strings consistently (Circulation)
17:09 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 2780 - Capitalize strings consistently (Budgets)
17:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7482 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , overdues report downloads without names
17:09 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 2780 - Capitalize strings consistently (catalog)
17:09 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 2780 - Capitalize strings consistently
17:09 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 2780 - Capitalize strings consistently
17:09 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7482: overdues report downloads without names
17:09 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #697: SUCCESS in 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/697/
17:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7494 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mjr, Needs Signoff , Use partial barcode or callnumber as a fallback for the barcode search in checkout
17:09 slef oleonard: bug 7494
17:09 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7362 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Patch doesn't apply , Allow searching by item number as a fallback
17:09 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3280 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt, Patch doesn't apply , opac/opac-sendbasket.pl security leaky
17:09 sekjal if you also run the fines.pl cron, is the patron charged twice (once on cron, then again on return)?
17:09 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7494 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mjr, Needs Signoff , Use partial barcode or callnumber as a fallback for the barcode search in checkout
17:09 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7687 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Remove problematic CSS gradient declarations targeting Internet Explorer
17:09 jcamins Though I think oleonard is trying to get us to stop using ysearch.
17:09 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7789 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, frederic, NEW , Add translations of item type and authorized value descriptions
17:09 slef @query fallback
17:09 jcamins Or ysearch.
17:09 jcamins jQuery has awesome autocomplete.
17:08 jcamins slef: use jQuery's autocomplete?
17:08 libsysguy shoot
17:08 libsysguy ok
17:08 sekjal one question
17:08 wizzyrea idk
17:08 sekjal libsysguy: working on QAing it now
17:08 wizzyrea yea, idk
17:08 oleonard slef: Possible checkouts?
17:08 libsysguy wizzyrea I actually wasn't sure how to mark it since the code was signed off and it just failed on whitespace
17:07 slef Does anyone know if there's an easy way to generate a drop-down list of possible checkouts in circulation.pl?
17:07 kf bye all
17:07 wizzyrea oh, it's np
17:06 libsysguy sorry I marked that wrong wizzyrea
17:01 wizzyrea but geez it was staring me right in the face
17:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7849 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Signed Off , Instant Fine Calculation at Checkin
17:01 slef bug 7849
17:01 * oleonard scolds wizzyrea for calling herself dumb
17:00 wizzyrea ^.^
17:00 wizzyrea can't believe i'm so dumb.
17:00 wizzyrea I just saw it
17:00 jcamins wizzyrea: yes there is.
16:58 wizzyrea ty
16:58 wizzyrea lool
16:58 oleonard Yeah, intranetbookbag
16:58 wizzyrea omg. lol.
16:58 oleonard wizzyrea: If there's a syspref it's turned on by default
16:58 sekjal paul_p: I'm QAing 7849 now that it's resubmitted
16:58 wizzyrea sorry to be so dense
16:58 wizzyrea is it a syspref?
16:58 wizzyrea !
16:58 oleonard There is
16:57 wizzyrea there isn't a cart function on the staff side, right?
16:56 oleonard If I missed something in the cataloging plugins that's why :)
16:55 kf oleonard: don't your eyes hurt by now?
16:53 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Stop unnecessary warnings in get_language <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ce046f9a732a74a7b6a5ddca228d2579c08d288d> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_7284' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2bc542789fdf9d551a408bc8349daa062a37c496> / bug 7284: fix package build problem, move BEGIN into new <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitd
16:51 kf enjoy :)
16:51 kf so it's wrong in koha now and I need to come up with something else
16:51 jcamins BRB
16:51 jcamins It also seems like I should eat lunch now.
16:51 huginn kf: A classification number from a scheme not covered by one of the other number fields. The field should not be used for classification numbers assigned from a source for which a subfield $2 source of number code would not be assigned. (Repeatable) [a,b,2,6,8]
16:51 kf @marc 084
16:51 jcamins Yes, it seems that way to me, too.
16:51 kf seems callnumbers should be more Number local call 53 -
16:51 kf but not sure which attribute to use then
16:51 kf a new index would work better probably
16:50 kf jcamins: thinking about it
16:50 * jcamins always thought it was "Haupt-deutsch." You learn something new every day. :)
16:50 jcamins :)
16:50 jcamins Because they'd search for LC1 in classification, and get the books on Low German, too.
16:49 kf and thx for the german example :)
16:48 kf not sure where else to put it...
16:48 kf we will give it some testing
16:48 kf no I think that should be save here... I hope
16:48 kf ah
16:47 jcamins Like, if 084 classification LC1 means "Hochdeutsche" and call number LC1 means "Plattdueuetsch," that'd be a problem.
16:47 kf explain that sentence please? :)
16:47 kf ?
16:46 jcamins Oh, unless they have similar classification and call numbers that are different.
16:46 kf jcamins++
16:46 kf good that I showed you :) thx!
16:46 jcamins Right.
16:45 kf other way round, subfields first... I think
16:45 kf ah
16:45 kf melm 084$a Local-classification:w,Local-classification:p
16:45 kf melm 084 Local-classification:w,Local-classification:p
16:45 jcamins Yes.
16:45 kf so that shoudl work you think?
16:45 jcamins ;)
16:45 jcamins You know, I'm not sure Zebra configuration makes any sense.
16:45 kf k :)
16:44 jcamins scan=w
16:44 jcamins s=sort
16:44 kf so s = sort? s = scan?
16:44 kf ah
16:44 kf they use a different schema for their call numbers...
16:44 jcamins If you were to take out the Local-classification:s, that would do it.
16:44 kf thank you
16:43 jcamins Let me actually look at the config file.
16:43 kf hm not good then
16:43 kf aren't we useing the other column for sorting?
16:43 kf oh
16:41 jcamins kf: it'll be a problem for sorting by call number, though.
16:41 jcamins kf: yes.
16:38 kf jcamins: will I be able to do an exact search for something like 00 with that?
16:38 wizzyrea 6 sends you back to the checkout screen, where the barcode is now in the checkout box waiting for you to set the due date
16:38 kf jcamins: melm 084$a Local-classification:w,Local-classification:p,Local-classification:s ?
16:37 wizzyrea which is far too much work
16:37 wizzyrea so check out to would ultimately end up in the item table somewhere
16:37 wizzyrea slef well I was envisioning something like 1. type title 2. results 3. find right book 4. click it 5. find right item 6. click "check out to <patron>" 7 click check out
16:36 wizzyrea :/ then what I'm thinking probably wouldn't be ideal
16:36 libsysguy bc in theory it should look the same as it does now only work on your end
16:36 slef wizzyrea: I'm waiting for feedback from the sponsor, but I suspect even my one extra click is pushing it :-/
16:35 libsysguy jw if you knew a good way to tell if the spacing would be right before I submitted this
16:35 slef wizzyrea: and if they are in the search screen, then they cannot access the date and so on, so they'd have to go back to circulation
16:35 jcamins Local use attribute, then?
16:35 paul_p libsysguy yep, for a few minuts !
16:35 slef wizzyrea: good point. Ideally 0.
16:35 kf wonder if it would hurt to just put the fields in there too
16:35 libsysguy paul_p you still around
16:34 kf in there...
16:34 kf but koha has 952$o callnumber
16:34 kf some kind of mathematical classification
16:34 kf oh
16:33 * jcamins withdraws the question.
16:33 kf and... others
16:33 kf and rvk
16:33 kf msc
16:33 jcamins What are we using it for?
16:32 kf trying to figure that out right now
16:32 jcamins Well, wahanui thinks that's a good idea.
16:32 wizzyrea slef: how many clicks are your people willing to take to make this work?
16:32 kf hm seems we use 20 already
16:32 wahanui 20 is nice
16:32 jcamins 20?
16:32 huginn kf: A classification number from a scheme not covered by one of the other number fields. The field should not be used for classification numbers assigned from a source for which a subfield $2 source of number code would not be assigned. (Repeatable) [a,b,2,6,8]
16:32 kf @marc 084
16:32 kf someone an idea which z39.50 attribute to use for 084?
16:32 wizzyrea sticky when you have multiple items though
16:32 kf hm
16:31 wizzyrea right
16:31 slef wizzyrea: and redirect to that when there's no barcode hit?
16:26 wizzyrea just a thought
16:26 wizzyrea slef: maybe like oleonard's search to hold - you could add a conditional button to the regular search results to add "check this item out to <patron>"
16:24 * jcamins is very excited for DOM indexing, too.
16:23 kf ... and I can't wait until he has dom indexing to play with ... ;)
16:23 kf jcamins++ for lots of awesome features in 3.8 :)
16:21 jenkins_koha Starting build #697 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
16:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7876 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Add ids to divs and spans with ids in opac-user.tt
16:21 jenkins_koha kyle: Bug 7876 - Add ids to divs and spans with ids in opac-user.tt
16:21 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #696: SUCCESS in 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/696/
16:20 slef wizzyrea: I'd rather see more results but I don't really understand how to get a useful listbox in circulation.
16:20 wizzyrea afk just a min
16:20 wizzyrea it's not an indictment, i'm really curious
16:19 wizzyrea i mean, in your data it brings back the right item enough of the time to be helpful?
16:18 wizzyrea I don't really like how it works - I think I'd rather see more results than just one. Does it work for your libraries?
16:17 wizzyrea checkout *time search
16:17 wizzyrea slef: i'm looking at your dev for checkout search
16:17 * kf sniffs
16:17 jcamins kf: not with GRS-1.
16:17 kf not necessary the same field
16:17 kf because they have different classifications in the same record...
16:17 kf it won't work
16:17 kf ah... not
16:17 kf jcamins: I will ask Uli to index $2 too
16:17 jcamins SJeffery: Afrikaans should be pretty easy.
16:17 kf jcamins: you are genious
16:16 SJeffery Wait a minute, I don't know either of those languages...might be a while:)
16:16 wizzyrea what people don't know is that bug reports are challenges that feed our curiosity
16:16 jcamins kf: ah, yeah, we could do something like I want to do with relator terms: rel-edt:Camins or cn-sudoc:whatever
16:16 SJeffery Well as soon as I finish cataloging books in Farsi and Afrikaans I will take a stab at it
16:16 slef wizzyrea: just not so much when they succeed, eh? ;-)
16:16 wizzyrea SJeffery: we love it when people try to break stuff.
16:15 jcamins more_eyes++
16:15 jcamins Yes.
16:15 huginn jcamins: A classification number from a scheme not covered by one of the other number fields. The field should not be used for classification numbers assigned from a source for which a subfield $2 source of number code would not be assigned. (Repeatable) [a,b,2,6,8]
16:15 jcamins @marc 084
16:15 kf and I bet jcamins has some suggestions what you can try to do that
16:14 kf SJeffery: exactly :)
16:14 SJeffery testing? You mean you want me to TRY to break stuff?
16:14 kf the more eyes the better
16:14 kf the patch is in git
16:14 kf SJeffery: you can help with testing
16:13 SJeffery *crosses fingers and toes* It would make my development a lot easier if it made it in:D
16:13 kf it does not touch strings
16:13 kf SJeffery: there is still a chance
16:13 SJeffery kf: So it did not make it into 3.8?
16:12 kf jcamins: it would probably fix the problems I see with indexing different classifications in 084 too.. *sigh*
16:12 jcamins SJeffery: gmcharlt has an implementation, which I tested and offered feedback on, and revised patches should be following.
16:11 kf SJeffery: waiting for sign-off
16:11 slef do branches on git.koha-community.org ever get deleted? Each extra HEAD causes extra objects to be downloaded into a shallow clone.
16:11 SJeffery What is the status of the dom project?
16:11 jcamins gmcharlt is working on some follow-ups.
16:10 kf I wanted to test that
16:10 jcamins gmcharlt: will your DOM implementation take advantage of 245ind2?
16:10 kf oh
16:10 kf jcamins: dom++ :)
16:10 jcamins kf: sorry, missed your question earlier. Yes, DOM will allow us to use 245ind2.
16:09 jcamins libsysguy: check that doesn't change *all* tabs, though.
16:09 libsysguy and just kill of tabs in file compression
16:09 libsysguy I think i can just do what jcamins said
16:08 paul_p the best, anyway, is to use only 4 spaces. which emacs should be able to do
16:07 paul_p (had you set 2 tabs, that would have been OK in fact, bug ugly on the diff)
16:07 libsysguy weird
16:07 paul_p libsysguy nope, because the diff has a tab, that is represented as 8 spaces
16:06 paul_p )
16:06 libsysguy so it doesn't look like it does in the diff?
16:06 paul_p (that's just an example, "another" and $var=bla are not correctly placed
16:06 paul_p }
16:06 paul_p alast one;
16:06 paul_p another;
16:06 paul_p somecode;
16:06 paul_p $somethingelse=bla;
16:05 paul_p $var=bla;
16:05 paul_p if (bla) {
16:05 paul_p I get things like:
16:05 paul_p (did I say I love git ?)
16:05 paul_p libsysguy = when I apply your patches, my git automagically replace all tabs by 4 spaces. And the resulting indenting is ugly.
16:05 jcamins (setq indent-tabs-mode nil)?
16:05 libsysguy hey, ok so im a little confused
16:04 libsysguy w00t
16:04 paul_p i'm here !
16:04 libsysguy so im confused
16:04 libsysguy paul_p said he was seeing 8
16:04 libsysguy and it is set to tab to 4 spaces
16:04 libsysguy emacs
16:04 jcamins libsysguy: most of them are. What editor do you use?
16:03 libsysguy does someone have an example of a correctly tabbed patch
16:02 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 2780 - Capitalize strings consistently (Acquisitions pages) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=69a13493b484ac45584624f892a950bc504e9ec6> / Bug 2780 - Capitalize strings consistently (miscellaneous) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9e72156f75e972a2e4f6a55f3df8074de1c41127> / Bug 2780 - Capitalize strings consistently (Tools) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitw
16:01 SJeffery Several of the sales reps from the large ils vendors had absolutely no clue what I was talking about when I asked about analytics support. They would then get back to me to say that they could definitely add that for five or six figures and several years time.
16:00 * wizzyrea likes evil plans
15:59 SJeffery The fact that there is ANY analytics support is pretty awesome
15:59 SJeffery Though if my evil plans come to fruition many of those things will be corrected
15:58 jcamins Really pretty darn awesome.
15:58 jcamins Also, our analytics support?
15:58 wizzyrea nice to hear we're the best at something. :)
15:57 wizzyrea <3
15:57 wizzyrea !
15:55 SJeffery Well, sad in that there are still a number of annoying areas where it is lacking like that, but even then it is still the best out there.
15:53 slef whysthat sad?
15:53 SJeffery And sadly, Koha is probably the best ils for using marc data
15:52 gaetan_B bye!
15:52 jcamins Well, it's not used by Koha at the moment.
15:51 kf use
15:51 kf and it's sad not to sue it
15:51 kf because we have this data
15:51 * kf has hope
15:51 talljoy1 so it is clean cataloging, but serves no purpose.
15:51 kf jcamins: tell me dom is better for this very reason?
15:51 talljoy1 heh
15:51 kf it should use them for sorting, but it doesn't
15:51 jcamins I have a great rant on how lousy GRS-1 is for this very reason. :)
15:50 kf what jcamins said
15:50 jcamins It doesn't do anything.
15:50 talljoy1 i suppose that is a question for those who use MARC. ;-)
15:50 talljoy1 Anyone here know what setting the second indicator for a title in Koha does for results display? (i.e 245 05$a"The Silver.....) This doesn't seem to affect the order of display in the search results (still alphabetical "The Silver Phantom" comes before "Silver and...")
15:37 jcamins You're welcome.
15:34 tcohen thanks jcamins
15:34 jenkins_koha Starting build #696 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
15:33 tcohen i think i'll re-read progit today
15:32 tcohen i was all wrong
15:32 tcohen yeap
15:31 jcamins gitosis could easily be set up wrong, but for pushing, I think you just use SSH?
15:31 reiveune bye
15:31 tcohen but it seems to work ok
15:31 tcohen and also, i was not confident with our gitosis setup
15:30 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7876 - Add ids to divs and spans with ids in opac-user.tt <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9db202af0d0d1c00bf0335fc0cef20fe5868be7e>
15:30 tcohen git checkout -b uploadtest origin/3.6.x && git push git-unc uploadtest did
15:30 tcohen git push remote origin/3.6.x wouldn't work
15:29 tcohen i needed a local branch following 3.6.x for things to work
15:29 tcohen jcamins: you're right
15:29 jcamins tcohen: I don't really see how you could have a faulty setup. All you need is SSH.
15:27 jcamins slef: ":branch" is optional if you're using the same name.
15:26 jcamins slef: that may be it.
15:26 slef I'd expect something like "git push remote branch:branch" but I've not read the man page recently.
15:26 jcamins Also, you know that you have to have SSH write access?
15:25 jcamins I'd do something like "git checkout -b uploadtest origin/master && git push remote uploadtest"
15:25 jcamins Though i could be mistaken.
15:25 jcamins I'm pretty sure that won't ever work right.
15:24 tcohen i did that just for testing
15:24 jcamins tcohen: in that case, you shouldn't be trying to push origin/3.6.x
15:24 tcohen i think we have a faulty setup
15:24 tcohen yeap
15:24 slef tcohen: sorry to be blunt but have you read man git-push?
15:23 tcohen yeah, i can't make that part work, pushing my branches into my git server
15:22 jcamins Use git push to push your own branches.
15:22 jcamins tcohen: then use git clone.
15:21 tcohen as some of you use gitorious or github
15:21 tcohen i want to have my server to follow git.k-c.org
15:20 jcamins If you're just trying to make an exact copy of git.k-c.org, don't use git push, use git clone.
15:19 jcamins git push git-unc-pushbranch 3.6.x
15:19 jcamins git checkout -b 3.6.x origin/3.6.x
15:18 jcamins tcohen: right, you have to create a 3.6.x branch.
15:18 tcohen jcamins: it says the branch doesn't exist
15:18 jcamins I think you're better off just pushing a 3.6.x branch.
15:17 slef depends on configuration but it can
15:17 jcamins tcohen: you're doing git checkout git-unc-pushbranch/origin/3.6.x?
15:17 tcohen i assume git push creates the branch if it doesn't exist?
15:17 tcohen but i cannot seem to do a checkout of that branch
15:17 wizzyrea bc that's really what I want :P
15:17 wizzyrea or on add items
15:16 tcohen it says everything is ok
15:16 wizzyrea omg!
15:16 wizzyrea on the detail?
15:16 tcohen jcamins: i do git push git-unc-pushbranch origin/3.6.x
15:16 wizzyrea wait, which item table
15:16 kf :)
15:16 wizzyrea so exciting.
15:16 wizzyrea I kno!
15:16 kf and oleonard++ wrote some example code about how to hide them
15:16 jcamins tcohen: git push remote branch
15:15 jcamins kf++
15:15 jcamins Woohoo!
15:15 tcohen hi #koha, how do I push a git branch (from a k-c.org clone) into my personal git server?
15:15 kf and to all tabs
15:15 paul_p kf++
15:15 kf if you ever want to hide some column from the item table... I added ids there too ;)
15:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7619 blocker, P2, ---, paul.poulain, Needs Signoff , 3M self checkout don't work in France
15:15 paul_p bug 7619
15:15 kf aaaw
15:15 wizzyrea :)
15:15 kf paul_p: commented on 7619 :)
15:15 wizzyrea because you keep making my life better.
15:15 wizzyrea yes!
15:14 kf lol, again?
15:14 wizzyrea kf++ for all of those spans on the xslt view
15:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2780 minor, P3, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Capitalize strings consistently
15:09 paul_p oleonard so you can forget the space problem for bug 2780, the hook will take care of it
14:55 kf paul_p++ :)
14:54 paul_p rangi++
14:54 paul_p kf++ (for pointing rangi's blog)
14:53 paul_p so, switching 7876 back to passed QA ;-)
14:53 paul_p just tested, it works like a charm !
14:53 paul_p (will do that with tabwidth=4)
14:52 paul_p it fixes automatically all errors !!!
14:52 paul_p and tabwidth=<n> tells how many character positions a tab occupies; this is relevant for indent-with-non-tab and when git fixes tab-in-indent errors. The default tab width is 8. Allowed values are 1 to 63.
14:52 paul_p it doesn't fix tab errors, but if you use tab-in-indent treats a tab character in the initial indent part of the line as an error (not enabled by default).
14:52 paul_p oleonard don't worry, i'll use http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz/2011/12/15/fixing-whitespace-when-apply-patches-with-git/ !
14:52 oleonard Let me check again
14:51 oleonard Oh wait paul_p, I think maybe my editor has screwed something up
14:49 paul_p testing wit 7876
14:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2780 minor, P3, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Capitalize strings consistently
14:47 oleonard I'm working on Bug 2780, but I'm wondering if you try doing a test edit on catalogue/detail.tt if you'll see the same warnings as me
14:47 paul_p oleonard could you remind me the bug number ?
14:46 oleonard paul_p: Try with catalogue/detail.tt
14:46 * paul_p check
14:45 paul_p oleonard really ? yikes...
14:42 oleonard paul_p: Your hook definitely flags whitespace errors for lines which have not been changed
14:38 * chris_n gets IA's reader up and running in his sandbox
14:36 jcamins Thanks.
14:35 gmcharlt jcamins: sure - should be later this afternoon
14:35 jcamins gmcharlt: on the subject of solr, let me know when I need to pull new changes for DOM indexing.
14:34 chris_n fwiw Internet Archive uses solr
14:26 * oleonard will know now to check tabs when editing
14:25 paul_p oleonard I think it's a little bit tricky to get the line number in the file.
14:24 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
14:24 wizzyrea @later tell chris_n: bug 7888 is probably a good candidate for pulling back into 3.6
14:24 wizzyrea thanks :)
14:24 wizzyrea oleonard++ sekjal++
14:23 * wizzyrea is a bit shocked actually.
14:23 wizzyrea lol
14:22 oleonard Yeah, sorry that took so long wizzyrea ;)
14:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7885 normal, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Master , Change filename of TransferLog suggested by packages to fit with logrotate
14:22 wizzyrea lol
14:22 wizzyrea did that get pushed?
14:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7850 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Fix values for hidden in subfields of 952 + maxlength in NORMARC frameworks
14:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7858 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Missing packages from install_misc/ubuntu.packages
14:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7860 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , /virtualshelves/addbybiblionumber.pl plack scoping
14:22 wizzyrea oh!
14:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7864 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Reintroduce list of subscribers to a serial alert message
14:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7888 minor, P4, ---, wizzyrea, Pushed to Master , Permission for "change password" button in circ toolbar should be "borrowers" instead of "staffaccess"
14:22 jenkins_koha * magnus: Bug 7885 - Change filename of TransferLog suggested by packages to fit with logrotate
14:22 jenkins_koha * magnus: Bug 7850 - Fix values for hidden in subfields of 952 + maxlength in NORMARC frameworks
14:22 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7858 - Missing packages from install_misc/ubuntu.packages
14:22 jenkins_koha * dpavlin: Bug 7860 - /virtualshelves/addbybiblionumber.pl plack scoping
14:22 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7864: Little changes to the display
14:22 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7864: Reintroduce list of subscribers to a serial alert message
14:22 jenkins_koha * wizzyrea: Bug 7888 - Permission for "change password" button in circ toolbar should be "borrowers" instead of "staffaccess"
14:22 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #695: SUCCESS in 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/695/
14:20 oleonard I wish the hook would output a line number with the error
14:18 jcamins I guess I now know how to test it. :)
14:18 jcamins I'd like to set up the pre-apply hook.
14:12 * oleonard suspects many of his 2780 patches will fail because of this
14:12 oleonard Well, the check for spaces is working now anyway...
13:54 oleonard -rwxrwxr-x 1 oleonard 2267 2012-04-04 09:42 pre-commit
13:54 * oleonard wonders why his git hook isn't working
13:46 Oak morning wizzyrea :)
13:45 wizzyrea mornin :)
13:45 kf hi wizzyrea :)
13:45 wahanui whitespace is http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz/2011/12/15/fixing-whitespace-when-apply-patches-with-git/
13:45 wizzyrea whitespace?
13:44 wizzyrea whitespace is http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz/2011/12/15/fixing-whitespace-when-apply-patches-with-git/
13:43 * paul_p on phone
13:43 kf paul_p: http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz/2011/12/15/fixing-whitespace-when-apply-patches-with-git/
13:43 wahanui kf: i'm not following you...
13:43 kf wahanui has the link somewhere
13:43 kf whitespace?
13:42 uwe I'm unable to edit the wiki; i also did not get a confirmation via email :S
13:42 kf on apply
13:42 kf it removes them automagically
13:42 kf I use that
13:42 kf have you seen the automated whitepsace fix from rangi's blog?
13:42 kf hm
13:41 paul_p (I plan to send a mail to koha-devel about that)
13:41 paul_p the tricky thing being that sometimes you change something to a line that HAS a tab, and my hook complain. I hesitated to fail QA for that, but I think it will force us to go in the right direction instead of having many trailing tabs.
13:40 paul_p oleonard yep, it checks only changed lines.
13:39 kf ah scrolling broken again, sorry
13:39 kf fix it? :)
13:38 oleonard paul_p: Does it only check changed lines?
13:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7876 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Add ids to divs and spans with ids in opac-user.tt
13:38 Oak oh well
13:38 oleonard paul_p: I see your comment on Bug 7876. I didn't realize this was grounds for failing QA now
13:38 * Oak talking about Deboan 6.04 Squeeze
13:37 Oak yup, sudo is not installed by default (I used the xfce, lxde cd image). you need to do 'su' to be root.
13:36 uwe i will create an account and try to change that; just thought to give you heads up
13:35 uwe user needs to be root in debian; unless sudo is installed AND user logged in is configured to use sudo
13:35 uwe another note, the document suggest the usage of sudo at some point; this is not correct for a fresh installation of debian, sudo is not included by default
13:34 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7885 - Change filename of TransferLog suggested by packages to fit with logrotate <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=607e5f6e52254485f4017446bb5befd401a5ce32> / Bug 7850 - Fix values for hidden in subfields of 952 + maxlength in NORMARC frameworks <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=58e98c3c38528e734ec4e5182ce8513f14157a5e> / Bug 7858 - Missing packages from ins
13:34 jenkins_koha Starting build #695 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED)
13:31 magnuse uwe: yeah, good point
13:30 uwe thank you magnuse ; i would suggest to change the link instead of redirecting. the url in the browser is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.4_on_Debian_Squeeze .
13:18 magnus_lunch so if you install the stable packages you will get 3.6.x
13:18 magnus_lunch uwe: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.4_on_Debian_Squeeze redirects to "Koha 3.6 on Debian Squeeze" :-)
13:13 uwe Greetings; i know it seems im asking about the obvious, but should i use 3.4 or 3.6 ? this page: http://koha-community.org/download-koha/ links to 3.4 ; so i'm not sure if this page needs update or if this is indeed the recommendation when using .deb ?
13:08 paul_p how the hell can you bypass a git am that has a hook that fails... the --no-verify argument seems to work for git commit only :'
13:07 paul_p ( i'm in love with git, don't tell my wife :D )
13:07 paul_p git++
13:07 paul_p (also just added for tab checker)
13:07 mbalmer paul_p++
13:07 mbalmer indeed.
13:06 dpavlin_ paul_p++
13:06 mbalmer ah, cool.
13:06 paul_p mbalmer did you notice the http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Tips_and_tricks page ? I've added a check for ` that will prevent me from pushing patches with ` ;-
13:06 mbalmer see privmsg..
13:05 paul_p mbalmer yep ?
13:05 wahanui i guess paul_p is the 3.8 release manager, and is very tall, and does not like coffee.
13:05 mbalmer paul_p?
12:14 * oleonard is back
12:00 christophe_c1 hello
11:47 jcamins slef: okay, will do.
11:46 slef jcamins: not at all
11:45 magnuse :-)
11:45 drojf1 throw in a sami koha day and there may be extra funding somewhere :)
11:45 jcamins slef: do you mind if I amend your patch to move Heading_MARC21.t to t/db_dependent ?
11:45 magnuse hehe
11:45 * druthb would offer to move there temporarily (say, 6 months)...to help organize, you know...yeah. and if her passport gets lost and she can't come back to the US....oh well.
11:44 magnuse :-)
11:44 drojf1 magnuse: yes!
11:44 asaurat +1 :)
11:43 druthb +1!
11:42 * magnuse puts in a bid for kohacon in northern norway some time in the future: http://vimeo.com/39078923
11:41 Oak good night BobB
11:41 BobB :) zzzzZZZZZ
11:41 sekjal going go get started on my day. later, #koha!
11:41 magnuse g'night BobB
11:40 BobB good night all
11:40 slef Attached bug-7284-fix-package-build-problem-move-BEGIN-into.patch
11:39 jcamins I will sign off.
11:39 jcamins slef: yes please.
11:39 Oak good night Mr Robin
11:39 slef jcamins: shall I stick it on 7284?
11:39 * eythian_home will sleep too. Will give it a few days or so and try to rebuild the packages then.
11:39 Oak good night rangi :)
11:39 kf good night rangi
11:38 eythian_home yeah, DB on a BEGIN block is pretty terrible when it comes to testing.
11:38 rangi right, time to sleep
11:38 pastebot "slef" at 86.54.115.53 pasted "patch for the failing C4::Heading::UNIMARC" (48 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/332
11:38 jcamins Excellent, I don't have to rewrite your patch. :)
11:37 rangi cool, stick it on 7284 as a follow up i reckon
11:37 rangi and then the tests will pass
11:37 slef yeah, that's the patch I did
11:37 rangi it can be in the init sub instead
11:37 slef damnit
11:37 rangi no there is a db connection created in the begin block
11:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Authority matching algorithm improvements
11:36 wahanui bug 7284 is the first step to making that happen.
11:36 slef bug 7284
11:36 eythian_home sekjal: I failed it
11:36 sekjal slef: that patch is now Passed QA. not sure it's related to failing tests, though
11:36 slef as in: what bug?
11:36 slef oh I've got a solution. Who wants it?
11:36 jcamins Yeah, rangi and I discussed a solution.
11:35 jcamins Ohhh.
11:35 slef sekjal: is that the missing libreadonly-perl and libdatetime-format-dateparse-perl build-depends that I patched yesterday or so?
11:35 eythian_home jcamins: that one
11:35 * chris_n realizes that he not only missed his 10pm appointment last evening, but the meeting this morning as well
11:35 pastebot "eythian" at 121.73.2.230 pasted "Failing test" (12 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/331
11:35 jcamins Kind of odd that I have problems with neither of those.
11:34 sekjal jcamins: i keep getting one in t/db_dependent/Acquisitions.t
11:34 jcamins slef: ah.
11:34 slef t/Heading_MARC21.t
11:34 chris_n morning wisdom: Nothing is impossible for the man who doesn't have to do it himself. - Weiler's law
11:34 jcamins eythian_home: which tests are broken?
11:34 chris_n g'morning #koha
11:34 slef eythian_home++
11:33 kf lots of +1
11:33 * eythian_home grumbles about broken test cases causing package builds to fail
11:33 magnuse yay, good meeting
11:33 huginn Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2012/koha.2012-04-04-10.00.log.html
11:33 huginn Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2012/koha.2012-04-04-10.00.txt
11:33 huginn Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2012/koha.2012-04-04-10.00.html
11:33 huginn Meeting ended Wed Apr 4 11:32:41 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
11:33 Brooke #endmeeting
11:33 Brooke #info 2 May 02.00 UTC is the time of the next meeting
11:33 mtj slef: ok, a good suggestion from you
11:32 mtj slef: oops sorry, you meant why not use *your* existing gitorious repo?
11:32 sekjal +1
11:32 drojf1 sleeping then or in the day. boss won't allow that, so no meeting for me
11:31 druthb +1
11:31 mtj slef: its *just* an alternative... no offensive intended ;)
11:31 rangi +1
11:31 kf sleeping too
11:31 magnuse 0 (will be sleeping)
11:31 slef mtj: I update it once in a blue moon. Help welcome ;)
11:31 jcamins +1
11:30 Brooke so 2 May (Wednesday) 02.00 UTC
11:30 slef mtj: why not use the one that's there?
11:30 magnuse mtj++
11:30 mtj slef: i plan to sort a gitorious Koha repo too... :)
11:30 dpavlin_ mtj++
11:30 Brooke we're due for a good olde fashioned 0200 UTC
11:30 mtj https://github.com/Koha-Community/Koha/commits/master
11:29 mtj for the win, i have setup a realtime repo for Koha, on github too , https://github.com/Koha-Community
11:29 Brooke #topic Meeting Time
11:29 dpavlin_ github is mostly for visibility, I still prefer my own git server ;-)
11:29 druthb dpavlin++
11:29 dpavlin_ slef: I can push it to gitourious also, no problem :-)
11:28 slef dpavlin_: good work. (I'll persuade you to gitorious one day)
11:28 kf dpavlin_++ for making videos!
11:27 dpavlin_ AARGH! Wrong video: http://blog.rot13.org/koha/koha-plack-debug.ogv
11:26 dpavlin_ I have demo of new development tools at http://blog.rot13.org/koha/koha-intranet-cgi-vs-plack.ogv (write-up pending for koha-dev) it's on https://github.com/dpavlin/Koha for people who want to try it *right now*
11:26 BobB Brooke: LOL
11:25 Brooke I think dpavlin's plack stuff might be helpful here
11:25 thd s/19.00 UTC/18.00 UTC/
11:25 Brooke #topic Miscellaneous
11:25 Brooke #info KohaCon12 meeting 11 April 18.00 UTC
11:24 Brooke k that's resolved then
11:24 kf ok :)
11:24 slef kf: let's say 11th, to give people enough notice? Also to see if we can start scheduling papers a bit by then.
11:24 slef thd: I remember.
11:24 thd slef: meetings with kmkale were sparsely attended as a point of information.
11:23 slef thd: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2012/koha.2012-03-21-18.00.html says 18.00 Wednesdays... could mean 17 or 18 UTC.
11:23 kf so first meeting today, or on 11th, 18th?
11:23 kf :)
11:23 kf I am not sure - that's why I am asking
11:23 slef kf: you mean not meet until after 20 April?
11:22 kf slef: is there a need to start meeting? or waiting for the deadline?
11:22 slef thd: that's fine with me. How about others?
11:21 thd if I recall correctly
11:21 thd slef: mle suggested 19.00 UTC on Wednesdays.
11:21 oleonard bbl
11:21 oleonard Bye all
11:21 * oleonard has to take kids to school
11:20 thd Are there any?
11:20 slef didn't mle suggest a date+time?
11:20 slef oh yeah
11:20 thd There had been mention of KohaCon 2012 specific IRC meetings.
11:19 thd There is an issue from last meeting
11:19 rangi you could just do the #topic thing and not change it twice if you want to save keystrokes
11:19 Brooke lemme know if I'm wrong
11:19 Brooke Don't think there are actions from last meeting
11:19 Brooke #topic Old Business
11:18 slef I really expect to have only 3 going for the full monty
11:18 thd Brooke: We will be talked out when KohaCon is fully funded ;)
11:18 kf I am not totally sure it fits our structure
11:18 slef so the feedback I'm taking back is that the gap is too wide?
11:18 rangi but maybe thats just me
11:17 rangi yeah im not mad keen on the perk thing
11:17 kf we have some bigger companies and some smaller - which will give the bigger ones bigger representation I think
11:17 Brooke are we all talked out on this?
11:17 kf hm
11:16 slef I think so far we have two sponsors in that class. We're trying to keep that one as small as we can, so we'd like to get the call for sponsors out ASAP
11:16 * magnuse will sponsor with the same amount as for kohacon10 and 11, and does not expect anything more than being listed somewhere
11:15 slef kf: magnuse has it right
11:15 kf ah
11:15 slef kf: basically a package of things.
11:15 magnuse bronze silver gold kind of thing
11:15 slef kf: standard, full monty...
11:15 kf slef: what is a class of sponsors?
11:14 slef No, we'll accept anything as sponsorship. Just more perks at those price points. We're also going to have a class of sponsors for people who give us stuff we need.
11:14 kf don't have different levels?
11:14 rangi i agree with BobB
11:14 kf so perhaps we should keep it more open?
11:14 rangi kf: nope
11:14 kmkale we had VPM to fall back on for everything
11:14 magnuse i don't think slef said anything about a minimum amount?
11:14 thd slef: Framing by expectation is important but turning away anything offered is bad.
11:14 BobB But (conflict aside) I'm not in favour of favours and don't expect any
11:13 rangi and know what a reasonable amount is
11:13 BobB OK, well just so we all know what the target is.
11:13 thd slef: both rangi and BobB are correct :)
11:13 rangi i think the companies involved have more ethics than that
11:13 slef magnuse: full monty = website, programme, things in the room, things in the pack, logo up big, something else I forgot
11:13 kf rangi: was it diddicult to get all expenses covered?
11:12 rangi our entry point was $1
11:12 rangi i dunno
11:12 BobB If you make the entry point $50 you are more likely to raise $400 than $4,000
11:11 slef dpavlin_: things have improved since I last looked.
11:11 dpavlin_ thd: recordings are html5 FWIW but it does require flash [stops bbb chatter from now]
11:11 slef BobB: basically more sponsors = better conference.
11:11 BobB Understood. Thx.
11:11 slef BobB: I think we need at least $4000, but the budget has lots of variables even now.
11:10 thd slef: It seems to work in gnash but that does not qualify it.
11:10 magnuse slef: what would the full monty be?
11:10 rangi we also didnt have price points .. so i dont really have an opinion
11:10 BobB or a target for how much you want to collect?
11:10 BobB Slef do you have a budget yet?
11:09 slef BobB: so do we. We want to set prices people will pay.
11:09 rangi everyone got their logo on the website, and that was it
11:09 slef dpavlin_: I think it requires Adobe flash to send or view so I'm not sure. I think we have better options but the guy with bad eyesight isn't the best one to ask about this.
11:09 thd slef: The right price points are the ones which meet the needs.
11:09 rangi we didnt really differentiate at kohacon10
11:09 BobB I have a conflict of interest on this one. :)
11:09 kf slef: the gap seems a bit wide to me
11:08 drojf1 while i am all against advertisements in general i would still be ok with sponsor's logos on the conference site
11:08 slef 2. we were considering giving sponsors extra perks at around $50 (standard) and $1200 (full monty) - are those the right price points?
11:08 dpavlin_ slef: would http://www.bigbluebutton.org/ help with recording?
11:07 * oleonard tries to join paul_p for lunch, fails
11:07 kf I think if made clear it's sponsoring for the conference - ok for me
11:07 * paul_p must head for lunch, will read logs after
11:07 slef 1. is it OK to put sponsors logos on http://koha-community.org/kohacon12/ ?
11:06 slef Any other question? I think I've two things I'd like to ask for your feedback on
11:06 slef simplest will be if we can stream, because then it can be recorded and made available in one step, but I just don't know.
11:05 kmkale slef++
11:05 thd slef++ much recording
11:05 kf slef++
11:05 magnuse slef++
11:05 dpavlin_ slef++
11:05 slef dpavlin_: I think so. If not, we'll record AV audio directly and resynchronise them.
11:05 * thd has a conflicting unrecorded conference so recording is important.
11:04 slef thd: yes, but video helpers will be needed to pull it off.
11:04 dpavlin_ slef: audio is very important! might camera have direct link to AV?
11:04 magnuse any kind of video of talks during the hackfest would be super cool
11:03 slef paul_p: yes, basically one room, at least for the conference. I think we might have a small side room too but my memory may be failing - mle is the best to ask about the venue.
11:03 thd slef: Do you plan to record dev days also?
11:03 magnuse slef: cool
11:03 slef kf: I think so.
11:03 slef magnuse: we're still checking network capacity.
11:02 slef thd: DV camera. Not sure what else. I think mle isn't here right now, so I don't know.
11:02 paul_p slef how many rooms will we have ? one 150ppl large ?
11:02 kf I think mle confirmed there will be wifi?
11:02 magnuse slef: will there be streaming or video-after-the-fact?
11:02 thd How much recording equipment do you have?
11:02 slef #link http://koha-community.org/kohacon12/
11:01 BobB slef +1 that was really important.
11:01 wahanui hmmm... kohacon12 is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Category:KohaCon12 or Conference Tue 5 June 2012 to Thu 7th, Hackfest Sat 9th June-Mon 11th June
11:01 slef wahanui: kohacon12
11:01 slef Any other things that people are interested in?
11:01 slef and the first batch of invitation letters went out a few days ago but I've not yet found time to edit the web page to say that.
11:01 slef as soon as someone gets time, basically
11:01 kf slef: will answer mails tonight
11:00 slef The calls for registrations and sponsors will go out imminently
11:00 paul_p s/paper/papers/
11:00 * slef rebiases dpavlin_
11:00 thd It would be nice to have a conference not overlapping with "any" other conference also.
11:00 paul_p slef at BibLibre we are discussing of the paper we will submit, don't worry, we will submit some (maybe "a lot" ;-) )
11:00 * dpavlin_ submited paper at hackfest, wonders about submiting for conf part (with bias towards no)
10:59 slef dpavlin_: once we've got a few accepted, we'll start to post titles
10:59 druthb submitting papers early is good for the blood pressure of conference organizers. Been there, Done That.
10:59 BobB Of course
10:59 dpavlin_ can we get some list of submitted papers so we don't overlap?
10:59 slef (and the overtaxed scheduler...)
10:59 slef please be kind to the reviewers!
10:59 slef The earlier the better!
10:58 BobB lotsa time :)
10:58 wahanui slef: excuse me?
10:58 slef wahanui: I do that too.
10:58 wahanui Brooke: I forgot deadline
10:58 Brooke wahanui forget deadline
10:58 rangi april 20 BobB
10:58 slef call for papers deadline 20 Apr
10:58 wahanui hmmm... deadline is Aug 15th I think lotsa time
10:58 BobB deadline?
10:58 slef thanks to those who have reviewed papers so far: kf, Brooke... erm...
10:58 slef links on http://koha-community.org/kohacon12/
10:58 slef so submit papers please
10:58 slef riiiight
10:57 Brooke #topic KohaCon12
10:57 kf Ilike this meeting
10:57 kf more happy news
10:57 * druthb votes early and often.
10:57 Brooke moving on to KohaCon
10:57 Brooke hooray, all the voting's out of our systems
10:57 wahanui 27366
10:57 slef wahanui: +1 +27364 +1
10:57 kf +1
10:57 slef +1
10:57 thd +1 for the jester who knows why the seven stars are not more than seven
10:56 ColinC +1
10:56 rangi +1
10:56 drojf1 brooke +1
10:56 druthb +1 for carving Brooke's name into this role in stone, including title change to "Mistress of Meetings."
10:56 drojf1 bug wranglers deserve their "office" and a coffee machine!
10:56 mtj brooke +1
10:56 dpavlin_ +1
10:56 sekjal Brooke: you got "The Wheels on the Bus" stuck in my head before I even woke up this morning… but +1 anyway
10:56 magnuse +1 for court jester :-)
10:56 magnuse makes it feel more serious
10:56 magnuse sure anyone can do the bugwrangler job, but being voted into the "office" feels good :-)
10:56 BobB brooke +1
10:56 jcamins +1
10:55 Brooke bus driver / court jester
10:55 Brooke last vote
10:55 Brooke right
10:55 magnuse +1 for voting :-)
10:55 thd paul_p++
10:55 kf +1 for kmkale
10:54 paul_p (or i'm missing what "bug wrangler" mean ;-) )
10:54 wahanui ...but wahanui is a bot|a repository of important and useful and accurate information or at least partially slow....
10:54 BobB wahanui: you are excused this time
10:54 paul_p well, I don't think we need to vote for this role, anyone is welcomed as bug wrangler ;-)
10:54 kmkale slef: wahanui is way too good at math it seems
10:54 drojf1 lol slef
10:54 wahanui slef: excuse me?
10:54 slef wahanui: 1 / 0
10:54 thd +1 {[+1, +1, +1, +1]};
10:54 sekjal +1
10:54 marijana kmkale +1
10:53 magnuse +1 for kmkale
10:53 wahanui slef: what?
10:53 slef wahanui: stoppit!
10:53 BobB kmkale +1
10:53 Brooke Kmkale's in there, too
10:53 Brooke oooooh
10:53 wahanui 3
10:53 slef +1 +1 +1
10:53 fredericd +1 for whatever
10:53 * kmkale would like be an assistant bug wrangler
10:53 thd +1 {[+1, +1, +1]};
10:53 BobB +1 * 3
10:53 magnuse +1 for kf and dobrica
10:53 eythian_home +3 and more for anyone else who wants in :)
10:53 sekjal +3
10:53 ColinC +1 x 3
10:52 kf +1 for magnus and dobrica :)
10:52 wahanui 3
10:52 drojf1 +1 +1 +1
10:52 wahanui 3
10:52 jcamins +1 +1 +1
10:52 wahanui 3
10:52 marijana +1 +1 +1
10:52 * oleonard can't imagine voting against a bug wrangler
10:52 druthb +1, with a cheer.
10:52 Brooke Magnus Enger, Katrin Fischer, Dobrica Pavlinušić
10:52 oleonard +1 to all the bug wranglers!!
10:52 Brooke moving on to Bug Wranglers
10:52 Brooke right, that carries, too (shocker)
10:51 marijana eythian++
10:51 magnuse eythian++
10:51 kmkale eythian++
10:51 kf helps your karma
10:51 kf eythian++ :)
10:51 druthb eythian++
10:51 kmkale dpavlin_: I know. Just joking :)
10:51 * eythian_home is building the 3.7 packages right now if it helps my cause any ;)
10:51 dpavlin_ kmkale: it's about communitity (err, +1) not about code!
10:50 kmkale :)
10:50 kmkale +2 of course
10:50 oleonard +1 +1
10:50 kmkale yah lets have some competition. This is boring ;)
10:50 Brooke coopetition
10:50 sekjal +2
10:50 slef +1 +1
10:50 ColinC +1 +1
10:50 jcamins +1 +1
10:50 marijana +1 +1
10:50 drojf1 +1 +1
10:50 dpavlin_ +2
10:50 thd +1 [+1, +1]
10:50 rangi +2
10:50 magnuse +2
10:50 druthb Cage Match!
10:50 slef in partnership or competition? ;)
10:50 druthb +1 +1
10:50 Brooke so +1 +1 for
10:50 kf +2
10:49 Brooke we've Robin and Mason
10:49 kf :)
10:49 kf getting a lot done here today
10:49 Brooke moving on to Packaging Managers
10:49 Brooke that carries
10:49 slef +1
10:48 thd +1 [+1, +1]
10:48 sekjal +2
10:48 eythian_home +1
10:48 ColinC +1
10:48 BobB +1 * 2
10:48 marijana +1 +1
10:48 fredericd +1
10:48 oleonard +1 +1
10:48 drojf1 +1 +1
10:47 dpavlin_ +2
10:47 magnuse +1 +1
10:47 kmkale +2
10:47 Brooke so +1 +1
10:47 kf +1
10:47 druthb +1, +1
10:47 kf +1
10:47 Brooke and Jared Camins-Esakov for 3.6
10:47 magnuse +1
10:47 Brooke Release Maintainers are Chris Cormack for 3.8
10:47 Brooke everyone's in
10:47 Brooke right
10:46 drojf1 mtj +1 too
10:46 kf +1 for mtj
10:46 sekjal +1 +1, +1
10:46 paul_p mtj great ! +1 for you then (the more QAA the best)
10:46 fredericd +1
10:45 * druthb thought mtj was crazy when she met him last fall. Now she is certain of it. <3, mtj.
10:45 wahanui 3
10:45 jcamins +1 +1 +1
10:45 eythian_home +1
10:45 ColinC +1
10:45 BobB +1 all 3
10:45 mtj ... (and updated the wiki page)
10:45 thd +1, +1, +1
10:45 magnuse +1 for mtj
10:45 * dpavlin_ ups! +3
10:45 druthb ! +1 for mtj, too.
10:45 kmkale +3
10:45 wahanui 3
10:45 marijana +1 +1 +1
10:45 rangi +1 +1
10:45 jcamins +1
10:45 drojf1 +1 +1
10:45 dpavlin_ +2
10:45 thd +1
10:45 mtj fyi: i just added my name in the hat for QA (assistant) too
10:45 thd +1
10:45 kf lol
10:45 druthb +1 +1
10:45 wahanui 2
10:45 paul_p +1 and +1
10:45 magnuse +1 +1
10:44 oleonard +1 +1
10:44 kf +1 +1
10:44 paul_p http://wiki.koha-community.org/w/index.php?title=Tips_and_tricks => no detect ` in your patch
10:44 kmkale paul_p++
10:44 Brooke Jonathan Druart
10:44 Brooke and
10:44 Brooke Marcel de Rooy
10:44 Brooke moving on to Assistant Quality Assurance Managers
10:44 paul_p about QA = I just hit save to improve the pre-commit hook & check more QA things ;-)
10:43 BobB +1
10:43 Oak sekjal++
10:43 druthb just you wait, Brooke; I'll change your tune shortly; you're up soon.
10:43 sekjal if at any time I stop doing a good job, fire me
10:43 kf sekjal++
10:43 dpavlin_ sekjal++
10:43 * Brooke likes the cut of druthb's jib.
10:42 * druthb makes a note that if Ian decides to take another term six months from now, we should add some flowery words to the title. "Mighty King of Sanity" is a modest proposal.
10:42 thd There is no way out :)
10:42 sekjal though, that's really up for everyone here to decide
10:42 sekjal after two months on the job, I've seem to still be doing QA at a goodly rate
10:42 jwagner OK, just trying to give you an out if you wanted it :-)
10:42 sekjal jwagner: I've have volunteered, yes
10:42 Brooke he put his name up there :P
10:41 jwagner I have no objection, but wanted to verify that Ian was really willing -- sekjal, you had said when you changed jobs that you didn't know if you'd have time to continue
10:41 paul_p +1
10:41 rangi glutton for punishment :)
10:41 jcamins +1
10:41 eythian_home +1
10:41 ColinC +1
10:41 magnuse +1
10:41 rangi +1
10:41 druthb +1
10:41 kmkale +1
10:41 slef +1
10:41 marijana +1
10:40 drojf1 +1
10:40 oleonard +1
10:40 thd +1
10:40 kf +1
10:40 kf she put her name down herself on the wiki - so she should be ok with that :)
10:40 dpavlin_ +1
10:40 Brooke moving on to Ian for QAM
10:40 Brooke okie dokie, Nicole isn't allowed to stop documenting things yet :)
10:40 magnuse sekjal++
10:39 kf sekjal +1 :)
10:39 druthb sekjal++
10:39 kmkale +1
10:39 BobB sekjal +1
10:38 sekjal perhaps this shows we're on a good track with what we want as a community
10:38 magnuse +1
10:38 ColinC +1
10:38 slef +1
10:38 paul_p +100 for nengard
10:38 Brooke MY APPROVAL RATING IS 100% :P
10:38 thd :)
10:38 paul_p BobB lol :D
10:37 BobB these elections are a bit like those in Myanmar
10:37 kf +1
10:37 dpavlin_ Brooke: let us have our +1 fest!
10:37 druthb +1
10:37 fredericd +1
10:36 marijana +1
10:36 drojf1 +1
10:36 oleonard +1
10:36 Brooke okie dokie, hearing no objections +1 for nengard
10:36 dpavlin_ +1
10:36 BobB BobB +1
10:36 sekjal +1
10:36 jcamins +1
10:36 rangi +1
10:36 thd +1
10:36 * Brooke sneaks dog grooming into documentation responsibilities...
10:36 druthb :P
10:35 druthb Roll some other things on there, since she's not here to protest.
10:35 Brooke holler if you like voting twice, and I'll separate that.
10:35 Brooke I'm going to roll general documentation and database documentation since it's both Nengard
10:35 Brooke moving on to Documentation
10:35 Brooke that looks to have carried
10:35 BobB No probs :)
10:34 vfernandes ok BobB... sorry! I didn't know
10:34 kf +1 for samuel and fredericd too of course
10:34 vfernandes http://koha.ulusiada.pt/cgi-bin/koha/opac-MARCdetail.pl?biblionumber=101874 -> tags description: if i remove the concatenation the tag description appears fine
10:33 BobB vfernandes, you've arrived into a meeting. Can you ask again when its finished?
10:33 paul_p +1
10:33 marijana dpavlin promised to help with encondings and utf-8 problems
10:33 gaetan_B +1
10:33 ColinC +1
10:33 sekjal +1
10:33 fredericd +1 for kf, marijana & samuel
10:33 rangi +1
10:33 thd +1
10:33 dpavlin_ +1
10:33 kmkale +1
10:33 druthb +1 ! :)
10:33 slef +1
10:33 mbalmer +1
10:33 jcamins +1
10:33 kf +1 for marijana :)
10:33 mbalmer slef, ah missed that, just saw the SIP comment earlier.
10:32 vfernandes i'm still having problems with Koha and encodings
10:32 vfernandes hi guys
10:32 drojf1 +1
10:32 slef mbalmer: what's this to do with translations?
10:32 Brooke okay so +1 for Katrin and Marijana as Translation assistants
10:32 mbalmer but the patch is pbply to young for 3.8 (and I dunno if it is signed off yet)
10:31 mbalmer fwiw, I did a lot of SIP work.
10:31 rangi thd: i know that
10:31 paul_p ++ for fredericd idea
10:31 magnuse marijana++
10:31 marijana but we would not be able to maintain pootle server
10:31 thd rangi: Samuel Desseaux had sent a message for his candidacy to the koha-devel list
10:31 rangi thats a great idea
10:31 BobB kmkale marathi translation ++
10:31 rangi fredericd++
10:31 marijana so, as dpavlin said, i would like to help
10:31 rangi tab completion :)
10:31 fredericd Ok, so I propose to switch Pootle server to a dedicated VM. This way I will be able to give the keys to any volonteer, or TT exclusive member
10:31 paul_p francharb oups, sorry, I made a nick mistake
10:30 francharb ok
10:30 francharb ahah
10:30 rangi francharb: i think paul_p meant to type that to fredericd
10:30 dpavlin_ marijana: TT assistent++
10:30 francharb paul_p, "paul_p> francharb iirc, he's a geeky librarian"
10:30 paul_p francharb yes ?
10:30 * druthb watches Brooke out on a limb, and hides the tree-saw.
10:30 francharb 0/ all
10:30 Brooke did you want to sign on as an Assistant too, marijana?
10:30 gaetan_B #info Gaetan Boisson, BibLibre
10:30 kmkale we are trying to set up a summer project sorts for Marathi translation here
10:30 Brooke we have KF as an Assistant
10:30 wahanui i heard paul_p, was it foreseen to have a SIP working group during the hackfest?
10:30 francharb paul_p, ?
10:30 * gaetan_B is joining late too
10:29 Brooke okay I'm going out on a limb and saying that the co chair thing passed
10:29 kf T Team? :)
10:29 sekjal Translation Team
10:29 Oak kf++
10:29 rangi hehe
10:29 fredericd It's like a club now
10:29 druthb kmkale++
10:29 kmkale i would like to be mentored in translations stuff :)
10:28 paul_p francharb iirc, he's a geeky librarian
10:28 kf I had admin rights to set up accounts - but not sure we want to keep it that way - samuel and fredericd should decide
10:28 druthb kf++
10:28 fredericd kf++
10:28 kf I can continue helping on the mailing list
10:28 rangi i agree, mentoring is always good
10:28 marijana hi to all, sorry for being late
10:28 kf +1
10:28 oleonard +1 co-TM
10:28 druthb +1 cooperation
10:28 dpavlin_ +1 co-TM
10:28 magnuse +1 for cooperation
10:27 sekjal +1 for co-TMs…. getting more people trained up on the procedure can only help us in the future
10:27 dpavlin_ marijana also wanted to help out with translations also, but not as full-TM.
10:27 fredericd I don't know if Samuel is a librarian or a IT. I could help him setting up a Pootle server
10:27 Brooke shouldn't have two motions simultaneously.
10:27 Brooke hang on and see if this fails first
10:27 jcamins +1
10:27 kmkale *as
10:27 kmkale I propose fredericd continues am TM
10:27 asaurat +1
10:27 thd +1
10:27 rangi +1
10:27 slef +1
10:26 Brooke so +1 for both working together
10:26 Brooke so I'm going to just run with co Translation Managers
10:26 Brooke he's absent
10:26 Brooke you agree
10:26 fredericd I agree
10:26 paul_p (not related to BibLibre at all. I remember seeing him once at a conference)
10:26 Brooke sounds like a plan
10:26 rangi i wonder if fredericd and Samuel could work together
10:26 fredericd I tried to get in touch with him without success
10:25 paul_p another frenchie ;-)
10:25 fredericd Who is Samuel?
10:25 kf I am a bit worried because no proposal and he is not here
10:25 druthb +1
10:25 fredericd I can do it again...
10:25 rangi fredericd: you didn't want to do ti again?
10:25 thd +1
10:25 Brooke Samuel Desseaux
10:24 Brooke next we've got Translation Manager
10:24 Brooke we're keeping Paul another 6 months before he's eligible for parole.
10:24 Brooke okie dokie
10:23 sekjal +1
10:23 kmkale +1
10:23 mveron +1
10:23 BobB +1
10:23 fredericd +1
10:23 ColinC +1
10:23 kf +1
10:23 dpavlin_ +1
10:23 mbalmer +1
10:23 drojf1 +1
10:23 rangi +1
10:23 jcamins +1
10:23 eythian_home +1
10:23 thd +1
10:23 oleonard +1
10:23 asaurat +1
10:23 magnuse +1
10:22 druthb +1
10:22 Brooke RM - Paul Poulain
10:22 Brooke please +1 for each candidate
10:22 Brooke okie dokie going down the list
10:22 eythian_home oops
10:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7885 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Change filename of TransferLog suggested by packages to fit with logrotate
10:22 eythian_home msg magnuse signing off bug 7885 for you
10:22 Brooke #topic Roles 3.10
10:21 slef I've some ideas I'll try to throw in
10:21 paul_p as usual...
10:21 paul_p Brooke I think so.
10:21 kf lots of awesome things around the corner - sign offers and testers needed :)
10:21 slef good work on Plack
10:21 Brooke are we all talked out on the 3.8 Roadmap stuff?
10:20 kf perhaps change assignee :)
10:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7895 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nengard, NEW , Add Plack/FastCGI/mod_perl server configuration and Zebra info to about
10:20 * dpavlin_ opened Bug 7895
10:19 oleonard I've had a slow start getting back from Hackfest, but I'm happy to keep at it
10:18 sekjal paul_p: :)
10:18 paul_p s/templates/template vocabulary/
10:18 paul_p (sekjal = another ++ if you submit a patch ;-) )
10:18 paul_p about 3.8, I also want to thank oleonard for the awesome job he made on standardizing templates !
10:18 kf eythian++ :)
10:17 paul_p sekjal++
10:17 sekjal oh, and Zebra, too
10:17 sekjal at the very least, I think a little indicator light in the About section to show if Plack/FastCGI/mod_perl are running
10:17 eythian_home paul_p: in general, band-aids like that are a bad thing compared to doing it right.
10:17 rangi dpavlin_: and 30 requests issuing to a hard due date that is different to another .. could be messy
10:17 * paul_p is impatient to see dpavlin_ Koha::Persistent proposal ;-)
10:16 dpavlin_ kf: 3.8.1 I would guess :-)
10:16 paul_p kf agreed. Maybe some button in admin-home.pl to "restart" plack if it's possible
10:16 kf it's not helpful when you have to guess when a switch you switched will take effect
10:16 rangi they are set to a value in the module
10:16 rangi its not a mysql, or memoize thing
10:16 kf I think to be usable we need a way to make it react to configuratoin changes
10:16 dpavlin_ paul_p: yap. but 30 requests can be a long time when site is idle
10:16 mbalmer asynchronous notifications could help here, but I don't know if MySQL has them (where an insert or update triggers a message)
10:15 paul_p dpavlin_ with thread dying after 30 requests, won't the correct value being recalculated after at most 30 requests ?
10:15 dpavlin_ yap, but we can fix that using unmemoize in right places and/or invalidating our $caches
10:15 rangi things like that
10:15 rangi so 2 threads can have different values
10:15 rangi but only cached in the thread
10:15 rangi paul_p: exactly that
10:14 dpavlin_ wap, I have proposal for Koha::Persistant but will fire it koha-dev after meeting
10:14 paul_p rangi which issues are there ? sysprefs are cached forever and, if changed, they are not taken into account ?
10:14 rangi but the more developers who run it the faster they will be fixed
10:14 paul_p dpavlin_ sounds fair.
10:14 rangi yeah i would not run it in production there are still issues with things like sysprefs
10:14 sekjal paul_p: just providing some statistical info… haven't had coffee yet
10:13 dpavlin_ I would suggest for all developers to move to plack, and for production we still have to iron out some caching quirks
10:13 paul_p sekjal = about 17 patches & larger features => OK for the fact, we agree. Did you have an idea behing saying that ?
10:13 sekjal two bugs in the Needs Signoff queue are marked as blockers
10:12 jcamins #info Jared Camins-Esakov, C & P Bibliography Services
10:12 * kf hands jcamins scissors to cut them out and move them :)
10:12 jcamins Ah, no one told me that. :)
10:12 rangi jcamins: it only works if its at the start of the line
10:11 kmkale #info Koustubha Kale
10:11 jcamins slef: I had a #info.
10:11 slef /me hands jcamins a #info
10:11 rangi id warn them there are lots of gotchas still in the plack stuff
10:11 paul_p (just for those who missed the info = speed x3 with plack. that's worth it !)
10:11 sekjal there are currently 17 bugs that are signed off. however, some of these are larger features
10:11 clrh #info Claire Hernandez, BibLibre
10:10 paul_p * dpavlin_ is doing an awesome job to make the staff interface Plack compliant. I think i'll mark it as experimental for 3.8 release, but will encourage ppl to use it
10:10 jcamins Jared Camins-Esakov, C & P Bibliography Services #info
10:10 rangi paul_p: ok
10:10 paul_p rangi = i'll send you an email requesting some help/feedback about how you made releases before
10:09 paul_p * the release is still expected for april 23th
10:09 paul_p * the string freeze if for friday/monday. Only bugfixes will be accepted after this date.
10:09 paul_p yep, i'm here and have things to say
10:09 kf #topic Roadmap to 3.8
10:08 wahanui well, paul_p is the 3.8 release manager, and is very tall, and does not like coffee.
10:08 rangi paul_p?
10:08 Brooke 3.8 anyone?
10:08 * Brooke guesses Chris is still asleep.
10:07 Brooke moving on to 3.6
10:06 Brooke Roadmap to 3.4 anyone?
10:06 rangi Submit talk proposals ... now :)
10:05 Brooke any general announcements?
10:04 eythian_home #info Robin Sheat, Catalyst IT, New Zealand
10:04 asaurat #info Adrien Saurat, BibLibre
10:03 BobB #info Bob Birchall, Calyx, Australia
10:03 mveron #info Marc Véron / marc veron ag allschwil Switzerland
10:02 sekjal #info Ian Walls, current QAM
10:02 mbalmer #info Marc Balmer, Koha Support Switzerland & micro systems
10:02 drojf1 #info Mirko Tietgen, Humboldt-Universität zu Berlin, Germany
10:02 BobB #info BobB
10:01 mtj #info mason james, kohaaloha, nz
10:01 fredericd #info Frédéric Demians, Tamil, France
10:01 thd #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City
10:01 ColinC #info Colin Campbell, PTFS-Europe Ltd
10:01 jwagner #info Jane Wagner, LibLime/PTFS
10:01 slef no #topic Brooke ?
10:01 rangi #info Chris Cormack, Catalyst IT, NZ
10:01 paul_p #info Paul Poulain, BibLibre, France, current Koha Release Manager
10:01 oleonard #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, USA
10:01 kf #info Katrin Fischer, BZS, Germany
10:01 dpavlin_ #info Dobrica Pavlinusic, FFZG, Croatia
10:01 slef #info MJ Ray, www.software.coop
10:01 druthb #info D Ruth Bavousett, ByWater Solutions, USA
10:01 magnuse #info Magnus Enger, Libriotech, Norway
10:00 Brooke please introduce yourselves using #info
10:00 Brooke Haere Mai, Welcome to the Koha Community Meeting
10:00 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic.
10:00 huginn Meeting started Wed Apr 4 10:00:05 2012 UTC. The chair is Brooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
10:00 wahanui if there is a meeting then Brooke must want me
10:00 Brooke #startmeeting
10:00 magnuse dpavlin++
10:00 * eythian_home nips out to drop the recycling at the curb. Back soon.
09:59 druthb Hi, BobB! :D
09:58 eythian_home hiya
09:58 kf hey robin
09:58 paul_p dpavlin++
09:58 paul_p dpavlin++
09:57 * BobB waves to Ruth
09:57 BobB hi Brooke
09:56 clrh hello
09:56 Brooke hey bob
09:56 BobB hi #koha
09:55 kf hi jwagner
09:55 slef magnuse: OK. I need to look at where else the records are used then. :-/
09:54 jwagner hi kf
09:53 kf hi all
09:52 rangi hi druthb
09:52 Brooke yo
09:52 druthb o/
09:52 magnuse slef: same thing there (with your patch): 40 does not link to 41, 41 does not link to 40
09:51 slef brb, coffeemaking
09:51 kf dpavlin_++
09:51 rangi dpavlin_: cool
09:51 magnuse slef: yup
09:51 Brooke hey Owen
09:51 dpavlin_ FWIW, I have two videos which show plack improvement http://blog.rot13.org/koha/koha-opac-cgi-vs-plack.ogv and http://blog.rot13.org/koha/koha-intranet-cgi-vs-plack.ogv and one with development tools http://blog.rot13.org/koha/koha-plack-debug.ogv
09:50 rangi hi oleonard
09:50 oleonard Hi all
09:50 slef magnuse: I've an idea. Can you check records 40 and 41?
09:50 paul_p good morning early ppl !
09:48 dpavlin_ rangi, kf: thanks. We'll book same hotel than. Also arriving on 4th.
09:48 mbalmer <- ready for the meeting. and good day!
09:47 kf dpavlin_: same dates and hotel for me :)
09:47 rangi dpavlin_: excellent :) eythian and I get in on the 4th .. we are staying at the Cairn Hotel which has reasonable prices
09:47 magnuse slef: think you can fix the links, or should i just sign off and say they need to be fixed later?
09:45 wahanui svc api is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_/svc/_HTTP_API
09:45 slef wahanui: svc api?
09:45 kf yay!
09:45 kf and make sure to hug marijana from me :)
09:45 dpavlin_ rangi: yap :-) accomodation pending, but we'll sleep in park if needed
09:45 * kf hugs dpavlin back
09:44 dpavlin_ s/higs/hugs/ [urgh, too little coffee]
09:44 dpavlin_ kf: higs her, if french can do it, so can I ;-)
09:44 rangi dpavlin_: tickets booked for scotland?
09:44 dpavlin_ rangi: thanks. I pushed mail to koha-dev already
09:43 * kf waves at dpavlin_ :)
09:43 rangi dpavlin_: gmcharlt is the one to ask about that
09:42 Oak :)
09:42 slef bum
09:42 magnuse in kf's 3.6.3 install they work "across" the pages
09:42 slef magnuse: did it work before? :(
09:41 magnuse when i click on record 21 the "previous" link is inactive
09:41 Brooke giving me coffee without manual labour is a bad idea.
09:41 magnuse slef: when i click on record number 20, the "next" link is inactive
09:41 * Oak offers Brooke coffee
09:41 slef magnuse: not sure I understand you on the next/previous links.
09:41 Brooke 5.40
09:41 Brooke nope
09:41 rangi 4.40am for you?
09:40 rangi hi Brooke
09:40 rangi i agree
09:40 Oak :)
09:40 slef paul_p: QA=RM seems like a reduction in eyeballs.
09:40 * Brooke hugs Oak
09:40 magnuse \0
09:40 Oak Brooke!
09:39 Brooke o/
09:39 magnuse is fixing the first record on second page thing quickly important enough to defer the next/previous links to another fix?
09:37 paul_p kf BibLibre made nothing on this patch, so I can QA it too
09:37 kf paul_p: rantgi is right, we need qa first - completing the cycle
09:36 magnuse hm, the first record on second page is fixed but the next/previous links in the paging thing is broken
09:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7894 blocker, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Broken detail page for first link on page 2 from search result page in OPAC
09:36 paul_p kf i'm pushing, so I can take care of bug 7894 quickly !
09:35 * dpavlin_ uf. it seems much longer than in browser ;-)
09:35 dpavlin_ Warning: wfMkdirParents: failed to mkdir "/home/wiki/web/w/images/thumb/archive/20120404002807!Mysql_queries-day.png" mode 511 in /home/wiki/web/w/includes/GlobalFunctions.php on line 2179
09:35 Oak will talk later when you are home though...
09:35 dpavlin_ Warning: mkdir() [function.mkdir]: Permission denied in /home/wiki/web/w/includes/GlobalFunctions.php on line 2176
09:35 dpavlin_ File:Mysql queries-day.png
09:35 dpavlin_ Warning: wfMkdirParents: failed to mkdir "/home/wiki/web/w/images/thumb/archive/20120404002807!Mysql_queries-day.png" mode 511 in /home/wiki/web/w/includes/GlobalFunctions.php on line 2179
09:35 dpavlin_ I'm getting permission denided errors from wiki when I try to replace pictrure with new one. Who should I contact? Warning: mkdir() [function.mkdir]: Permission denied in /home/wiki/web/w/includes/GlobalFunctions.php on line 2176
09:35 Oak i am cataloging books one by one... and can do 20 books in 3 hours. for now.
09:34 Oak when hard disk changed, new hard disk also generated bad sectors after half hour. i told them it must be really messed up power supply giving wrong voltage. then changed the system, installed Debian the 3rd time, and imported DB backup yesterday.
09:33 Oak cataloging had a little mishap... as i accidentally found out the hard disk of server was generating bad sectors... so had to change hard disk.
09:32 kf OaK how is the cataloging going?
09:32 magnuse just testing some more edge cases before signing off
09:31 magnuse slef: that fixed it
09:30 kf but - ian or marcel - even more countries!
09:30 Oak :)
09:30 kf ah right
09:30 rangi needs a qa before that
09:30 Oak awesome
09:30 kf found in pakistan, confirmed and tested in germany, norway and new zealand, patch from uk, tested in norway... pushed in france? :)
09:29 Oak :) very very nice
09:29 kf this will be another of our global bugs .)
09:29 slef I suggest testing by clicking links on page 1 and 2
09:29 kf if we can paul get to push after sign-off
09:29 kf nice
09:29 Oak magnuse++
09:29 magnuse i can give it a shot
09:27 slef signoff anyone?
09:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7894 blocker, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Broken detail page for first link on page 2 from search result page in OPAC
09:27 slef bug 7894
09:27 Oak slef++
09:27 magnuse yay
09:25 slef ok I can see what activates it only on page 2
09:23 rangi yep, seems to be
09:23 slef and is it only on the first link?
09:23 slef although I'm just going to test that some more. Why does it only fail on page 2?
09:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7894 blocker, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Broken detail page for first link on page 2 from search result page in OPAC
09:22 slef I've an ugly fix for bug 7894
09:14 magnuse i'll settle for for git show - saves lots of typing :-)
09:14 magnuse thanks rangi and slef
09:14 wahanui TMTOWTDI is there's more than one way to do it
09:14 slef TMTOWTDI
09:13 slef git log -1 4a2a95cc
09:13 rangi git show 4a2a95cc
09:13 magnuse gah, i forget - when git blame gives me a short commit id like 4a2a95cc - what's the best way to find the bug it came from?
09:13 * slef switches on KOHA_BACKTRACES
09:11 magnuse yeah, yeah :-)
09:11 wahanui slef: I forgot bug 6483
09:11 slef wahanui: forget bug 6483
09:11 rangi consider me complaining :)
09:11 magnuse Famous last words... Magnus Enger 2011-07-15 13:54:18 UTC I'd say get the feature in there and let's worry about the syspref later if anyone complains...
09:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6483 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, salva, RESOLVED FIXED, Paging in opac-detail when coming from a search
09:09 wahanui Bug 6483 is an interesting development
09:09 magnuse Bug 6483
09:08 kf agreed :)
09:08 rangi wrapping that block in a syspref would be pretty easy
09:08 rangi kf: yep, one step at a time :)
09:07 kf I mean, being able to activate the previous next buttons without having the browse feature
09:07 Oak :]
09:07 kf rangi: ideally I would like to see it separated... have the browse and previous next
09:06 kf Oak: thx for filing a bug report :) Oak++
09:06 juan_sieira busc = search
09:06 rangi so letting them have it seems fine to me, but it should be able to be turned off
09:06 Oak okay thank you guys :) thanks kf, magnuse, rangi, slef...
09:06 rangi slef: some people like it, the next/previous thing
09:06 slef rangi: and the browser and ...
09:06 kf Oak: it's the same piece of code - but different problem
09:05 rangi since it thrashes the db
09:05 magnuse well done Oak
09:05 kf Oak: looks all ok, I would give the other bug number as see also
09:05 slef who wants it?
09:05 rangi because hiding it with jquery is bad wrong and evil
09:05 rangi bonus points for enabling it to be switched off with a syspref while you are fixing it
09:05 slef was wondering if there's another possible meaning
09:05 huginn 04Bug 7894: blocker, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Broken detail page for first link on page 2 from search result page in OPAC
09:05 Oak okay I had clicked "Add me to the CC List" in "Possible Duplicates", but that did not look right, so pressed back, and clicked Submit bug. Here it is: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7894
09:04 slef or something like that
09:04 slef buscar = search
09:04 magnuse or spanish
09:04 kf probably french
09:04 slef busc?
09:03 Oak electricity!
09:01 magnuse yay
09:00 rangi yep
09:00 magnuse there's a meeting in 1 hour, right?
08:59 rangi but at least people know where to look
08:58 rangi its too late in the evening for me to figure out the error
08:58 rangi yeah so that code makes my head hurt
08:58 magnuse rangi: confirmed, changing "if ($session->param('busc')){" makes the records display properly, and hides the previous/next thing
08:58 rangi </rant>
08:58 rangi require and import you need to use
08:57 rangi all the uses are done in the begin
08:57 rangi the use is evaluated anyway
08:57 rangi is pointless
08:57 rangi and putting a use in an if
08:57 rangi how did we get that big pile of code in opac-detail.pl anyway? surely it should be in a module with a syspref to enable it?
08:56 drojf hi kf :)
08:56 drojf good day #koha
08:56 kf hey drojf :)
08:56 rangi its totally the results browser thing doing it
08:55 rangi then problem goes away
08:55 rangi or something that wont get a result
08:55 rangi 'buscsdasdas'
08:55 wahanui rangi: that doesn't look right
08:55 rangi change that to
08:55 rangi if ($session->param('busc')){
08:55 rangi magnuse: see this line
08:54 rangi ok confirmed
08:54 magnuse "use C4::Search;" on line 102 of opac-detail.pl
08:53 magnuse and as far as i can see, the only part of opac-detail.pl that uses C4::Search is the pager code
08:53 Oak "Possible Duplicates" rather
08:52 rangi right
08:52 rangi but errors for me
08:52 magnuse rangi: yup
08:52 Oak okay, should I add 7394 in the list as possible fixes?
08:52 rangi i bet that works fine for you
08:52 rangi http://opac.library.org.nz/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=6432
08:51 rangi it sets a cookie/session data and uses that
08:51 rangi yeah its totally to do with that
08:51 Oak okay then
08:51 magnuse Oak: looks good to me
08:51 Oak too long, and not clear in the end i think
08:50 Oak last question, it important so asking, what should I put in summary? This OK?: Broken detail page for first link on page 2 from search result page in OPAC
08:50 rangi thats what i reckon
08:49 magnuse and related to the previous/next thing
08:48 kf so probably a problem somewhere in the patches since then
08:48 rangi yep
08:48 kf note: can't repicate in 3.6.3
08:47 rangi interesting
08:46 Oak okay. this is my first time, so... :)
08:46 rangi in this case it doesnt really matter
08:46 * magnuse always leave those at the default
08:46 slef OS All but I don't think they matter much
08:45 Oak okay, and "hardware": "all", and "OS" should be "Linux"?
08:45 rangi yep definitely a blocker
08:44 magnuse it will trickle down to 3.6 when it's fixed in master
08:44 Oak hm okay
08:44 magnuse and i'd set the version to master, since it's there too
08:44 magnuse blocker, i'd say
08:43 Oak what is the severity level?
08:43 Oak and version 3.6...
08:42 slef yes
08:42 Oak okay clicked file a bug, now, in "components" should I choose: OPAC?
08:37 Oak :) hmm.
08:36 magnuse Oak++
08:34 Oak danke!
08:34 Oak :)
08:34 Oak well, i am happy because i helped... in some weird way
08:33 kf Oak++
08:33 kf Oak: I am not sure everyone is as happy about finding his own bug than you are :)
08:33 Oak this is cool
08:32 rangi thanks kf
08:32 Oak my bug :)
08:32 slef Oak: ok, confirmed your bug
08:32 Oak never mind
08:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7394 critical, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, chris, RESOLVED FIXED, Broken detail page for last link from result page
08:32 kf bug 7394
08:32 Oak second's up
08:31 kf give me a sec :)
08:31 kf I am already searchign for it
08:31 rangi cos it might help fix this one
08:31 rangi kf: yep but we want to see how i fixed it
08:31 Oak kf :) i guess i should file it then.
08:30 kf slef: rangi fixed it a while ago - it only came up in discussion because it's similar
08:30 Oak ah... i was hoping to turn it off
08:30 slef kf: what's your bug?
08:29 kf we can help
08:29 kf Oak: you should really file a bug :)
08:29 rangi or session or something
08:29 kf Oak: you can't turn it off sadly
08:29 rangi if the same url works fine in another tab, its gotta be something odd with env
08:29 kf slef: last record on every page - detail page got parsed with wrong stylesheet
08:29 * Oak goes to search "browse" is system preferences
08:28 rangi its to do with that new browse the results thingy
08:28 rangi so if you find that bug, and the patch, its probably something similar to fix it
08:28 slef rangi: whatwasthat?
08:28 rangi that kf found
08:27 rangi i think its probably caused by the same thing that was breaking the last one
08:27 Oak well, it's a weird thing this error.
08:27 Oak search a different term and, that will result in some different book on page 2, top, and click that record will give same error.
08:26 magnuse Oak: good point
08:26 Oak i mean to say there is nothing wrong with that specific record.
08:25 Oak it only happens when we search in the opac, go to page 2, click on 1st record.
08:25 Oak right click and copy the link of that record, and open it by directly pasting in another browser and the record will show properly (most most probably).
08:23 slef so opac-detail isn't parsing the MARC
08:23 magnuse slef: i confirmed it on master, but do a search and click on the first record on the second page
08:22 Oak when I search the opac, whatever I search, clicking on the 1st result of page two always gives this error: http://postimage.org/image/ouqivltox/
08:22 slef I've got a master with some records I think. What's up?
08:22 Oak hello slef :)
08:22 magnuse hiya slef
08:22 Oak 3 people report same thing, then it's a bug
08:22 slef hi all
08:21 Oak others should also test it first
08:21 Oak nah
08:21 magnuse Oak: want to report it in bugzilla too?
08:21 magnuse yay!
08:21 Oak i say it's a bug and i found it \o/
08:21 Oak okay good.
08:21 Oak because it was on the same disk that went bad... that's why I am saying...
08:20 magnuse probably not
08:20 Oak not*
08:20 Oak then my DB backup is at least no messed up.
08:20 magnuse Oak: no, but it sure looks like a bug!
08:20 Oak so it's a bug?
08:19 magnuse i get the exact same error in master
08:19 wahanui i heard magnuse was afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza.
08:19 Oak magnuse?
08:19 Oak so, any idea what may be wrong?
08:19 Oak electricity problems
08:17 kf not here. :(
08:15 magnuse anyone got an installation of master with enough records to get to the second page?
08:11 magnuse seems to be ok in the intranet
08:11 magnuse [oof] http://sksk.bibkat.no/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?idx=kw&q=peace&offset=20
08:10 kf [off] seminar-stuttgart.bsz-bw.de is ok too
08:09 kf [off] hfjs.bsz-bw.de
08:09 kf ok there
08:09 kf I am testing in 3.6.3 now
08:09 kf but perhaps easier to fix than invalid records
08:09 kf ouch
08:08 magnuse different records each time
08:08 magnuse i have done three searches now, every first record on the second page has that error
08:07 rangi looks like for whatever reason that is an invalid record
08:06 magnuse the line it complains about looks like this: my $marcrecord = MARC::File::USMARC::decode( $marcresults->[$i] );
08:06 kf Oak: first record on 3rd page too? or other records on the 2nd page?
08:05 kf Oak: so whatever you search, it's always the first record on the second page?
08:05 kf magnuse: yeah, that shoudl be all good now :)
08:05 magnuse kf: yup
08:05 magnuse last record of first page works for me
08:04 kf seems it's complaning about the leader?
08:04 kf it didn't explode like this
08:04 kf and you fixed it :)
08:04 rangi i wonder if its similar
08:04 rangi ah that was it
08:04 kf it applied the wrong xslt stylesheets
08:04 kf that was because of the browse thing
08:03 kf I had ap roblem with the last record on result pages once
08:02 magnuse first record on page 3 and 4 works
08:02 magnuse it sounds kind of familiar...
08:02 rangi there was a bug about that wasnt there?
08:01 magnuse i'm on 3.6.4
08:01 magnuse oops! i get the same thing, Oak!
07:59 magnuse hehe
07:59 Oak bonjour paul_p
07:59 Oak oh
07:59 Oak bonjour pastebot
07:59 Oak hello kf
07:59 Oak latest I guess... just did apt-get install koha-common yesterday
07:59 kf hi magnuse
07:59 magnuse guten tag kf
07:59 kf morning paul_p
07:59 wahanui which version of koha are you using?
07:59 magnuse Oak: which version of koha?
07:59 Oak it's not always the same book title that gives error! it just has to be the first result of page 2.
07:58 magnuse bonjour paul_p
07:58 paul_p good morning #koha
07:58 Oak when I search the opac, whatever I search, clicking on the 1st result of page two always gives this error: http://postimage.org/image/ouqivltox/
07:56 magnuse yay! :-)
07:56 Oak magnuse
07:55 magnuse Oak
07:54 Oak i have a very very weird problem after the hard disk of old server got bad sectors.
07:53 Oak kia ora #koha
07:16 gaetan_B hello!
07:09 * asaurat nods
07:09 * magnuse wanders off to have some french cheese for breakfast
07:08 magnuse hiya Joubu1
07:07 Joubu1 hello #koha
07:07 magnuse http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting,_4_April_2012
07:07 magnuse meeting in ~3 hours, right?
07:06 sophie_m hello magnuse :-)
07:05 magnuse hiya francharb sophie_m stuartyeates
07:02 francharb good morning #koha
06:37 magnuse bonjour reiveune
06:37 reiveune hello
06:31 cait bbl
06:31 cait hi all :)
06:25 magnuse bonjour alex_a
06:25 alex_a kia ora magnuse
06:19 magnuse kia ora #koha!
06:17 alex_a hello!
04:03 bag heya Amit_Gupta
04:03 Amit_Gupta heya wahanui
04:02 wahanui hey, eythian
04:02 eythian hi
04:02 Amit_Gupta heya bag, eythian