IRC log for #koha, 2012-04-03

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00:36 rangi hmm
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01:16 Judit good mornign
01:17 rangi hi Judit
01:17 Judit do you have a beautiful autumn down there too?
01:18 rangi yeah so far its been better than the summer was
01:18 Judit same here
01:28 rangi hmm i think there is a bug in master and 3.6
01:28 rangi Judit: can you login as a superlibrarian
01:28 rangi and look at the tools page .. do you get the links for batch item deletion/modification showing?
01:29 * rangi has to go to a meeting
01:29 Judit http://staff.kohademo.esilibra[…]
01:30 Judit no problem
01:34 Judit (this Koha is 3.2.5 although is says master on
01:35 Judit well our 3.6.4 has the batch item delete/modification
01:35 Judit and this one is okay too- 3.7
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03:03 Space_Librarian @wunder wellington, nz
03:03 huginn Space_Librarian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0°C (12:00 PM NZST on April 03, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
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03:35 rangi hmm maybe its because this db has been upgraded
03:35 rangi thanks Judit
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04:31 Amit_Gupta heya bag
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05:47 cait good morning #koha
05:47 eythian hi cait
05:47 cait hey mr robin ;)
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06:25 alex_a hello #koha
06:33 cait hi alex_a
06:33 cait :)
06:38 alex_a hi cait :)
06:38 alex_a @wunder konstanz
06:38 huginn alex_a: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 7.8°C (8:34 AM CEST on April 03, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady).
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06:38 alex_a Taegerwilen ?
06:38 reiveune hello
06:38 Judit1 7.8C that is cold
06:38 mbalmer good morning, koha!
06:41 Amit_Gupta heya cait
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06:46 cait hi all
06:46 cait alex_a: next weatherstation it seems
06:46 cait yeah, could be warmer
06:47 mbalmer I was in Lindau this weekend, almost froze to death in the night (camping…)
06:48 cait work time bbl
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07:07 asaurat hi
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07:13 francharb bonjour
07:15 magnuse kia ora #koha!
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07:21 paul_p good morning #koha
07:21 magnuse bonjour!
07:22 rangi evening
07:22 magnuse ata marie rangi
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08:22 * kf waves
08:26 rangi magnuse:[…]qa-hackathon.html
08:34 magnuse rangi: yeah, i saw that, but havn't tested it yet
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08:35 magnuse Oak
08:35 Oak magnuse
08:35 Oak kia ora #koha
08:38 kf hi Oak hi magnuse
08:38 Oak hello kf.
08:38 magnuse guten tag kf
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09:09 alex_a @seen dpavlin_
09:09 huginn alex_a: dpavlin_ was last seen in #koha 1 year, 22 weeks, 3 days, 13 hours, 55 minutes, and 31 seconds ago: * dpavlin_ would appriciate pointer to it :-)
09:10 alex_a O_O
09:10 alex_a @seen dpavlin
09:10 huginn alex_a: dpavlin was last seen in #koha 1 week, 2 days, 11 hours, 13 minutes, and 1 second ago: * dpavlin waves and goes to sleep...
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09:11 kf alex_a: perhaps try writing him an email - he told me he is logged in but doesn't read often
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09:15 alex_a kf: i'll try that. thx !
09:15 alex_a his last message is "* dpavlin waves and goes to sleep..."
09:16 alex_a may be he still sleeps ...
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10:06 Oak did a Koha install about 2 weeks ago on Debian, then the hard disk got bad sectors, replaced the hard disk, did fresh Debian install, and koha-common just now. can someone guide me how to restore my database backup? Should I just use phpMyAdmin and dump the sql file there, then run ?
10:08 rangi close
10:08 rangi you want to run
10:08 rangi sudo koha-mysql instancename < databasedump.sql
10:08 Oak ah okay
10:08 rangi sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -f instancename
10:09 Oak okay, and I do that after I have run the web installer?
10:09 rangi nope
10:09 rangi your database is gonna stomp all over anything you do with the web installer
10:09 rangi so no point
10:10 Oak so run web installer *after* the database dump?
10:11 rangi it will prompt you to run it if it needs to
10:12 Oak okay
10:31 Oak rangi, I did the DB dump, and OPAC now has old data, searching shows book results... everything. but XXX:XXX:XXX:XXX:8080 for admin area says: Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at
10:32 rangi sounds like your apache config is messed up
10:32 Oak hmm
10:32 Oak I'll pastebin
10:32 rangi check for a Listen 8080 line
10:33 rangi and did you set it up to run on 8080 ?
10:33 rangi when you were editing the koha-sites-conf.xml ?
10:38 Oak hmm, let me see
10:38 Oak adding Listen 8080 worked
10:38 Oak i have not edited the koha-sites-conf.xml
10:38 Oak will take a look at it now
10:39 Oak where is this file koha-sites-conf.xml located rangi ?
10:40 Oak by the way admin area is also working now...
10:41 Oak but i am kind of suspicious... i did very very little and everything is working fine?
10:41 Oak just your two commands
10:42 Oak i did just about this:
10:43 Oak is it how backup gets restored? I did however tried using same usernames, passswords, etc for everything.
10:44 magnuse Oak: that's the beauty of the packages!
10:44 magnuse it's so simple, it seems almost too good to be true :-)
10:44 Oak :) well, good then.
10:44 Oak cool :)
10:45 * Oak goes to tell people things are working again
10:45 Oak wait
10:46 Oak can I do some test... that will tell YES everything is fine?
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10:48 Oak hmm, everything looks exactly the same. and working fine.
10:48 Oak i'll go and tell people.
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12:21 oleonard Hi #koha
12:25 kf hi oleonard :)
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12:27 oleonard kf I like your idea, re: Bug 2733, of renaming the link to "print account." Or perhaps "print summary" (because I'm concerned that "account" implies just money-related information?)
12:27 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2733 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Can't print patron account
12:27 oleonard ...although I'm not sure that "summary" is clear.
12:27 kf oleonard: I like summary
12:27 kf I think it#s less confusing then page
12:28 oleonard should it say "Print -> print summary, print slip, print quick slip" ? Or "Print -> summary, slip, quick slip" ?
12:35 chris_n jcamins_away:
12:37 kf oleonard: good question
12:37 kf but I noticed too
12:37 kf it's not nice to have Quick slip and print slip
12:37 kf I would say
12:37 kf print slip
12:37 kf pint quick slip
12:37 kf voting for the more specific because of translations
12:38 oleonard Good point. That sounds good to me
12:39 chris_n jcamins_away:[…]your-own-cluster/
12:45 jcamins_away Ooh, nifty!
12:47 chris_n yup, very cool
12:48 * chris_n plans to play with running it to serve e-resources in conjunction w/koha
12:49 kf oleonard: do you write a patch?
12:50 oleonard I can
12:50 * oleonard would probably do well to start on something easy this morning
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12:58 kf oleonard: :)
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13:02 alaquerre Good morning everyone. - Question for you.  Is it possible to let user configure which field that are display on OPAC ?  Is there any plan regarding this issue.  We have 20 diffrents needs and it's getting hard to please everyone using the same codebase...
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13:10 oleonard alaquerre: What do you mean by "user?" Koha administrator or OPAC user?
13:10 oleonard ...although I guess the answer is no either way if you mean providing different views for different libraries using the same Koha installation
13:11 oleonard The best you can do is modify the XSLT, but that is a global change
13:13 dpavlin_ oleonard: doesn't bug 4032 enables local XSLT for each instance?
13:13 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4032 enhancement, P3, ---, stephane.delaune, Pushed to Master , XSLT systempreference should take a path to file rather than YesNo
13:14 oleonard For each installation of Koha, but not for (for instance) each different library using that installation
13:14 oleonard still not sure if that's what alaquerre needs...
13:14 dpavlin_ true :-)
13:14 dpavlin_ BTW, hi, #koha! I'm working on -- comments and questions are welcomed, and if it gets accepted I will talk about something like this on next KohaCon
13:17 alaquerre oleonard - Sorry did not see your anwser.  User here = Koha administrator.  So librarian would be able to add 742$v if they want to.  We currently have a global configuration for the 20 school we have and we have couple of people tha twould like to have much more control on the display.
13:18 oleonard I'm not aware of anyone working on per-library XSLT handling
13:19 * dpavlin_ confused: per-library = per branch, not separate koha-conf.xml sites?
13:19 alaquerre Each school have his own koha installation ... so look like we would be able to configure it using 4032.
13:19 alaquerre each library have his own server.
13:21 magnuse jquery++
13:30 hdl oleonard: iirc we did.
13:37 hdl oleonard: finally, we did NOT.
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13:52 uwe Greetings, we are planning to support a group of small libraries to make their database of books findable/searchable on the internet in some sort of a mini consortium; we want to use the least problematic installation. so we will use debian, but do you advise to use .deb packages of go through the generic installation procedure ?
13:57 magnuse uwe: deb packages, definitely
13:57 oleonard uwe: Everyone around here seems to always recommend the packages
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14:06 vfernandes hi guys :)
14:07 vfernandes one little question: it's possible to remove from ISBN searches the hifens without changing the code? I want the same results for searching the following ISBNs: 1234567 and 123-45-67
14:11 uwe magnuse, oleonard , thanks :)
14:12 wizzyrea vfernandes: afaik that is not possible
14:13 vfernandes :/ so only directly in the code?
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14:27 libsysguy hey sekjal
14:27 sekjal hey, libsysguy
14:27 wahanui rumour has it libsysguy is Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck
14:27 * wizzyrea giggles
14:27 libsysguy heh
14:27 libsysguy always gets me
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14:28 libsysguy sekjal I don't suppose I could bribe you to take a look at bug 7852
14:28 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7852 major, P1 - high, ---, kyle.m.hall, Signed Off , Hourly loan fines are not working
14:28 sekjal what would you be bribing me with?
14:28 libsysguy well thats the cool thing about a bribe
14:28 libsysguy you gut to ask for what you want
14:29 libsysguy and then I get to determine if it is worth not having people call me all day about fines not working :-\
14:29 libsysguy currently its day could ask for a pony and I'd cave
14:29 sekjal we're in the market for a donkey, actually
14:30 sekjal but I'd settle for 5 chickens
14:30 libsysguy well there are pleanty of asses around here
14:30 libsysguy you drive a hard bargin sir
14:30 gmcharlt heh - I have to laugh, one of Evergreen's quirks is that it has the notion of a goods payment for fines ...
14:31 gmcharlt so if you want to pay fines in chickens ... theoretically you could
14:31 libsysguy heh that sounds like quite a deal
14:31 gmcharlt sekjal: so, since you'll be in that area of code anyway ...
14:31 gmcharlt ;)
14:31 libsysguy although could you set up a currency of chickens and koha and do the same thing?
14:32 kf oleonard: you are on a roll :)
14:33 sekjal libsysguy:  from a reading of the patch, it looks good.  I'll apply it now and see how it looks in place
14:33 libsysguy ok cool, thanks
14:33 libsysguy sekjal it basically just didn't get merged in with bug 5549 when it got moved to the new branch
14:33 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, chris, Needs Signoff , Hourly Loans
14:35 hdl gmcharlt: have you ever managed the SortBin in evergreen openncip support ?
14:35 hdl or even in koha ?
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14:37 sekjal libsysguy:  okay, so this patch uses DateTime->delta_ms() to return the duration in minutes/seconds
14:38 libsysguy yes
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14:39 sekjal nice.  I hadn't known about that function, but I think it'll make a lot of our conversions a lot easier
14:40 libsysguy schaweet, you can thank Colin
14:40 chris_n lots_easier++
14:40 gmcharlt hdl: not to date; both SIPServer and Koha's fork of it include support for the field, however, so it should just be a matter of deciding what to populate it with
14:40 libsysguy @karma lots_easier
14:40 huginn libsysguy: Karma for "lots_easier" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1.
14:40 chris_n obviously we need more of it
14:41 libsysguy agreed chris_n
14:41 sekjal libsysguy:  the changes to Koha/ are good
14:41 sekjal moving on to analyzing those in C4/
14:42 libsysguy nothing excapes sekjal's ever seeing eye
14:42 hdl gmcharlt: yeah + how to populate that field.
14:43 hdl But was asking to know whether there was some code/configuration floating around for that.
14:43 sekjal except bug 6027 creating bug 7847
14:43 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6027 enhancement, P4, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Delete biblios if deleting all their items in batch deletion
14:43 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7847 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Signed Off , OPAC search dies with plack
14:43 sekjal I missed that one
14:45 gmcharlt hdl: I'm not aware of any -- at a guess, sticking in homebranch as the bin ID might be a start
14:45 gmcharlt more generally, a mapping from homelibrary to bin number if the sorter expects them to be numeric
14:49 sekjal libsysguy:  I have some concern about grace periods in this code
14:49 sekjal it looks like we're trying to subtract an integer from a duration on line 263 of C4/
14:51 sekjal oh, no, my mistake
14:51 sekjal it's an int, not a duration
14:51 sekjal the _get_chargeable_units subroutine needs some documentation
14:54 sekjal so... I'll add some.  also changing the name of the variable "days_minus_grace" to "units_minus_grace"
14:58 hdl gmcharlt: was thinking of a mapping of location to sortbin id rather
15:00 sekjal libsysguy:  running automated tests now, just to be thorough
15:00 sekjal but we should be good
15:02 gmcharlt hdl: possible needs both, or should support both, depending on whether AMH is sorting for within a library branch or among them
15:02 libsysguy sorry sekjal had someone in my office
15:02 libsysguy thanks for making those changes
15:03 sekjal no problem.  bug 7852
15:03 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7852 major, P1 - high, ---, kyle.m.hall, Passed QA , Hourly loan fines are not working
15:04 libsysguy is bugzilla sending out 2 emails per update now?
15:05 wizzyrea hm, does it make sense to have the "change password" button on only viewable by people with canUserStaffAccess
15:06 wizzyrea I would think that would be more "edit borrowers" permisison
15:08 wizzyrea because you can still change passwords if you go into edit borrower
15:08 wizzyrea you just don't see the button unless you have staffaccess
15:11 sekjal libsysguy:  are you subscribed to the Bugs list?
15:11 libsysguy yes
15:11 libsysguy ohh is it pushing one to bugs and one to me
15:12 sekjal yes
15:12 libsysguy curse you outlook mail rules...why have you failed me
15:12 sekjal I get that, too, on pretty much every new and active bug
15:12 sekjal thankfully, I'm viewing in Gmail, so it threads nicely
15:12 * libsysguy is forces to use M$ crapware
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15:16 wizzyrea bug 5974
15:16 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5974 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Bogus auth check for "StaffMember" role
15:16 wizzyrea see last comment
15:18 sekjal wizzyrea:  seems reasonable
15:18 sekjal (your comment, not the way it's currently implemented)
15:18 wizzyrea right - ok, then I'll make a patch for it. :)
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15:30 * paul_p_mtg head to push some patches...
15:30 paul_p_mtg nick paul_p
15:31 chris_n outlook is a failure in general
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16:19 jenkins_koha Starting build #692 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED)
16:24 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7851 - circ/ plack scoping <[…]a69bdcabd3b8d858c> / Bug 7859 - members/ plack scoping <[…]8ef6c0493f3c76321> / Bug 7863 - plack scoping <[…]itdiff;h=44eafcb8
16:24 fabio_t Hi everybody! How can I reset biblionumber? I reverted a previous import, now I want to import other records and I wish their biblionumber would start from 1 instead of (in my case) 16k... I did a full koha-zebra-rebuilds (with no luck). Is biblio.biblionumber tied to deletedbiblio, deletedbiblioitems, deleteditems table?
16:25 fabio_t * koha-zebra-rebuild
16:26 fabio_t thanks in advance
16:28 sekjal fabio_t:  reverting a previous import will not reset biblio.biblionumber
16:28 sekjal the only way to do that is in the database, with 'truncate biblio'.  I advise caution before doing this on a production system
16:29 sekjal since those truncated biblios will be gone forever, and there will be cascading deletions throughout the database
16:30 fabio_t thank you very much sekjal
16:30 fabio_t sekjal++
16:31 sekjal you're welcome, fabio_t.  be sure to backup your database first, just for safety
16:32 fabio_t I already did, thanks
16:33 sekjal cool
16:34 fabio_t now I have to go
16:34 fabio_t bye
16:36 Topic for #koha is now 3.6.4 and 3.4.8 and 3.2.11 Now Available || Koha Community Website - || General IRC meeting, 4 April 2012 at 10:00 UTC+0
16:40 oleonard No proposal from our Translation Manager volunteer
16:44 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: bug 7291 follow-up DBRev number <[…]90862e8490fa68a54> / Bug 7291: Followup: removes backquotes <[…]60b89014424ce1183> / Bug 7291: Adds new field aqbooksellers.deliverytime <[…]bace5e6436ae52448
16:46 jcamins o/
16:52 wizzyrea \o
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17:01 slef bug 6697
17:01 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6697 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Empty Organisation(s) field for organisational patrons
17:07 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #692: SUCCESS in 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/692/
17:07 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 7836 - Poor English on Patron Attribute Form
17:07 jenkins_koha * serhijdubyk: Bug 6434 - Ukrainian and Russian MARC sql-tables
17:07 jenkins_koha * colin.campbell: Use hour or day deltas to calculate overdue durations
17:07 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 1662: Is there a difference between Full and Simplified for Serials History
17:07 jenkins_koha * adrien.saurat: Bug 7868: cleans logs when doing a Search on the intranet
17:07 jenkins_koha * 7868 Followup for opac
17:07 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7836 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Poor English on Patron Attribute Form
17:07 jenkins_koha * adrien.saurat: Bug 7866: z39.50 search list ordered by rank
17:07 jenkins_koha * colin.campbell: Bug 7562 Add strict & warnings to KohaDates Plugin
17:07 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6434 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Passed QA , Many changes for Ukrainian and Russian sql-tables
17:07 jenkins_koha * dpavlin: Bug 7863 - plack scoping
17:07 jenkins_koha * dpavlin: Bug 7859 - members/ plack scoping
17:07 jenkins_koha * dpavlin: Bug 7851 - circ/ plack scoping
17:07 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1662 normal, P3, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Is there a difference between Full and Simplified for Serials History
17:07 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7868 minor, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Master , Warnings in logs for
17:07 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7866 minor, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Master , Rank not used in Z39.50 search page
17:07 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7562 normal, P5 - low, ---, robin, NEW , KohaDates plugin not found for 3.6.3 running off packages
17:07 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7863 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , plack scoping
17:07 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7859 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , members/ plack scoping
17:07 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7851 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , circ/ plack scoping
17:08 jenkins_koha Starting build #693 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
17:08 libsysguy is it too late for bug 5339 to make it into master
17:09 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5339 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , Parcel closing in acq
17:15 slef libsysguy: not sure. Look at paul's feature freeze timeline?
17:16 slef wahanui: feature freeze timeline?
17:16 wahanui bugger all, i dunno, slef
17:16 slef wahanui: 3.8 timeline?
17:16 wahanui no idea, slef
17:16 slef wahanui: feature freeze?
17:16 wahanui it has been said that feature freeze is 22nd Sept. 2011
17:16 slef wahanui: forget feature freeze
17:16 wahanui slef: I forgot feature freeze
17:16 libsysguy poor wahanui
17:17 slef wahanui: feature freeze is described at[…]ki/Roadmap_to_3.8
17:17 wahanui OK, slef.
17:17 slef libsysguy: looks like not. String freeze isn't until 6th.
17:17 libsysguy yeah i didn't know if that patch was considered a feature or not
17:18 slef libsysguy: question is whether it's major
17:18 libsysguy ahh
17:18 slef "By "major" I mean an enhancement that has many string change(s) and/or database change and/or introduce major changes in the core of Koha, with an important risk of side-effect."
17:18 slef yay!
17:18 libsysguy well it is constantly going on out date
17:18 slef np: David Bowie, Life on Mars
17:18 libsysguy I was hoping to get it in so I could add a little to it for a later release
17:18 slef libsysguy: ? not sure I understand
17:19 libsysguy i think Julian has rebased it 5 or 6 times
17:19 libsysguy poor guy
17:19 slef libsysguy: put it on the wiki and see if that attracts paul's attention?
17:20 slef it's biblibre... he should be symptathetic
17:20 libsysguy heh
17:21 libsysguy slef you mean put it in the bugs wiki?
17:21 slef libsysguy: I mean put it on the Roadmap_to_3.8 where he's discussing other bugs
17:21 libsysguy ahh ok
17:21 slef you could also do this...
17:22 slef oh wait
17:22 slef needs QA
17:22 libsysguy yeah
17:22 libsysguy we need a ping function on here
17:22 slef so sekjal are you there?
17:22 libsysguy ping QA
17:22 libsysguy lol
17:23 libsysguy feels guilty for pinging sekjal twice in one day
17:23 slef I can't remember.  Am we allowed to QA if we follow the coding_guildeines
17:23 slef wahanui: coding guidelines?
17:23 wahanui coding guidelines are[…]Coding_Guidelines
17:23 slef bah
17:24 sekjal sorry, was on my other computer
17:24 slef right off, it's non-standard SQL... no quotes at all, not very safe
17:25 sekjal 5339?
17:25 slef yeah
17:25 slef yay!
17:25 libsysguy yeah its the one I need for my senior project :p
17:25 slef now playing: Queen, Bohemian Rhapsody
17:26 slef libsysguy: got time to fix the SQL?
17:26 slef libsysguy: 90% sure it should be ""s not ``s in standard SQL
17:26 libsysguy yeah I can fix it
17:27 slef Is this a database-only patch?
17:27 libsysguy now its also got tt code
17:27 libsysguy and...
17:27 slef not in the non-obsolete patches it hasn't
17:27 slef or is there a git tree I should be looking at?
17:27 slef ok, I'm blundering around :)
17:28 libsysguy oh man I think it attached the wrong patch
17:28 sekjal the two attached patches to 5339 are looking to be the same (both DB edits)
17:28 libsysguy yeah it looks like Julian just attached the wrong one
17:28 sekjal unfortunately, without the attached code edits, this part cannot go in on it's own
17:29 libsysguy ill mark it failed
17:29 sekjal since it'll break a bunch of SQL queries that still refer to the old tables
17:29 slef libsysguy: thanks
17:29 libsysguy and leave a comment
17:29 libsysguy *smh*
17:29 sekjal I'd recommend bundling the database changes with the code, since their interdependent
17:29 slef can we mark it: leg-chewingly-frustrating too?
17:30 slef wahanui: second sign of madness?
17:30 wahanui second sign of madness is hairs on the palms of my hands
17:30 slef wahanui: poisoned botsnack
17:30 wahanui thanks slef :)
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17:30 slef @quote random
17:30 huginn slef: Quote #75: "<jwagner> They do get over it though. Starting along about my 20s, the older I got the smarter my parents got :-)" (added by gmcharlt at 01:13 PM, May 18, 2010)
17:31 slef @quote random
17:31 huginn slef: Quote #74: "<owen> chris: Not to mention the cute kid quote AI you've been developing. that takes a lot of cycles" (added by gmcharlt at 01:11 PM, May 18, 2010)
17:31 slef wahanui: are you cute?
17:31 wahanui slef: bugger all, i dunno
17:31 slef wahanui: idiot
17:31 wahanui slef: huh?
17:32 cait slef: wonder if I should tell S you are flirting with the bot?
17:32 cait @quote random
17:32 huginn cait: Quote #53: "joetho: what kind of shape are the records in?" (added by gmcharlt at 10:17 PM, February 05, 2010)
17:33 cait oleonard: you created lots of sign-off work :)
17:33 oleonard At least it's easy stuff, unlike most of the other stuff on the needs-sign-off list
17:34 jcamins Aw, I'm not going to have a chance to sign off until someone else has gotten to it.
17:34 jcamins So much for being top signer-offer every month this year.
17:34 slef cait: flirting?
17:34 slef wahanui: die!
17:34 wahanui errrrgh arrrrgh stop it that tickles a bit!
17:35 cait slef: you are so mean!
17:35 slef jcamins: there's bug 7893 if you like it
17:35 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7893 critical, P1 - high, ---, mjr, Needs Signoff , Missing build-dependency on libdatetime-format-dateparse-perl and libreadonly-perl
17:35 cait botsnack wahanui cookies
17:35 cait wahanui botsnack cookies
17:35 wahanui :)
17:35 jcamins slef: someone will probably get that signed off, too, before I have a chance.
17:36 slef jcamins: oooh I don't know it's a pretty complicated patch
17:36 jcamins slef: hehe.
17:38 slef http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ckages/25/console ends with "E: Failed autobuilding of package" then a few lines then "Finished: SUCCESS"
17:40 francharb see ya
17:40 slef francharb_afk: not if WE see YOU first!
17:40 slef ahem
17:40 francharb_afk ahah
17:40 francharb_afk so
17:41 francharb_afk hi all
17:41 francharb_afk bye all
17:41 francharb_afk ;)
17:41 slef :)
17:41 slef oh wow
17:41 slef I'm now getting slower speed on DSL than I did on UMTS last week.
17:41 slef whatever that exchange fault this morning was, it's nuked my performance
17:41 * slef talks to the router
17:42 slef 4455 kbps!
17:42 slef that's half what I'm used to!
17:42 jcamins Speaking of routers, I was just talking to a photographer who didn't realize that QoS existed.
17:43 jcamins slef: please stop, you're making me sad.
17:43 jcamins :P
17:43 slef I must resist the temptation to fiddle while uploading
17:43 * slef goes to read mail instead
17:44 jcamins Our ISP claims to give us speeds of 20Mbps.
17:44 jcamins I once caught it transferring data at 600kbps.
17:54 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #693: UNSTABLE in 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/693/
17:54 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 7291: Adds new field aqbooksellers.deliverytime
17:54 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 7291: Followup: removes backquotes
17:54 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: bug 7291 follow-up DBRev number
17:54 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7291 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , claims management improvement
17:59 slef bug 2780
17:59 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2780 minor, P3, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Capitalize strings consistently
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18:03 jcamins Bug 3648
18:03 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3648 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED , INSTALLATION / SAX Parser Config Instructions a little cryptic
18:08 jenkins_koha Starting build #694 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #692 1 hr 48 min ago)
18:11 slef svc api?
18:11 wahanui i guess svc api is[…]ha_/svc/_HTTP_API
18:18 slef @query import_bib
18:18 huginn slef: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7613 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Signed Off , OCLC Connexion Gateway, including extension svc/import_bib
18:18 huginn slef: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7729 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mjr, Pushed to Master , svc API should allow modification of items
18:19 slef could sekjal or another QAM review 7613 please?
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18:25 cait bug 7613
18:25 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7613 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Signed Off , OCLC Connexion Gateway, including extension svc/import_bib
18:25 cait oh good one
18:30 sekjal sorry, was taking a brief walk in the lovely weather
18:30 sekjal will look at 7613
18:32 slef @wunder edinburgh
18:32 huginn slef: Error: No such location could be found.
18:32 slef @wunder edinburgh, SCOTLAND
18:32 huginn slef: Error: No such location could be found.
18:32 cait @wunder EDI
18:32 huginn cait: The current temperature in Mid Kinleith, Currie, United Kingdom is 1.4°C (7:30 PM BST on April 03, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Rising).
18:32 cait brr
18:32 slef doesn't mention the snow
18:32 slef @wunder Aviemore
18:32 huginn slef: The current temperature in Grantown on Spey, Grantown-on-Spey, United Kingdom is 0.6°C (7:00 PM BST on April 03, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
18:32 cait started to rain when I went to get my bike...
18:32 wizzyrea holy cow, br.
18:32 slef it's not meant to do that at Easter
18:35 slef bug 7494
18:35 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7494 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mjr, Needs Signoff , Use partial barcode or callnumber as a fallback for the barcode search in checkout
18:35 slef that's one I'd like a signoff for if anyone's so motivated
18:36 slef I just failed to signoff oleonard-away's bug 2780 :(
18:36 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2780 minor, P3, ---, oleonard, Patch doesn't apply , Capitalize strings consistently
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18:46 libsysguy so does the meeting tomorrow start at 4 AM PST?
18:47 bag I think it's 3am PST
18:47 bag and 6am EST
18:47 libsysguy so 5 AM my time then
18:47 libsysguy bleh
18:55 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed!
18:55 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #694: FIXED in 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/694/
19:02 schuster Tornado's in Dallas...
19:03 wizzyrea !
19:03 wizzyrea slef - was looking at 7494 - looks like there's a merge conflict in
19:04 wizzyrea do note, I haven't actually looked at what it is yet
19:05 wizzyrea slef : never mind, it's copyright statements, I can fix it
19:07 cait working on bug 5345
19:07 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5345 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , DataTables in Koha
19:08 cait lots of patches there
19:08 wizzyrea *nod*
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19:28 rangi Morning
19:28 alaquerre Hi all, Question about :  This cronjob task is to automatically set to late any issue.  I may have found a problem but I would like to see if this is they way it should be.
19:29 alaquerre In the serial, we do have a grace period and it's correctly taken into consideration in the select ( line 55 ). But the cronjob do another validation (Line 72 ) to know when is the next item to arrive.
19:30 alaquerre The grace period is valid ONLY if it's smaller then the periodicity.
19:31 alaquerre If I have a grace period of 15 day with a serial that I receive only once a year, I will need to wait 365 days before the "Automatically set to late" get applied.
19:32 alaquerre Any reason it's like that ? :-)
19:32 rangi I've never used that script. So no idea
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19:34 rangi !jenkins status
19:34 jenkins_koha status of all projects:
19:34 jenkins_koha 3_6_Packages: last build: 7 (8 days 17 hr ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/3_6_Packages/7/
19:34 jenkins_koha Koha_3.2.x: last build: 36 (4 mo 1 day ago): UNSTABLE: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.2.x/36/
19:34 jenkins_koha Koha_3.4.x: last build: 80 (1 mo 12 days ago): UNSTABLE: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.4.x/80/
19:34 jenkins_koha Koha_3.6.x: last build: 44 (29 days ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.6.x/44/
19:34 jenkins_koha Koha_Docs: last build: 44 (4 days 0 hr ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]job/Koha_Docs/44/
19:34 jenkins_koha Koha_master: last build: 694 (1 hr 26 min ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/694/
19:34 jenkins_koha Master_Packages: last build: 26 (38 min ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ster_Packages/26/
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19:45 mbalmer re
19:45 mbalmer oleonard?
19:45 wahanui i think oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer
19:45 mbalmer wahanui?
19:45 wahanui yes, mbalmer?
19:46 mbalmer friendly, at least, our bot ;)
19:46 mbalmer wahanui, will you polish my shoes?
19:46 wahanui bugger all, i dunno, mbalmer
19:47 cait mbalmer: i did a follow up - perhaps you can sign off?
19:48 mbalmer sure, which bug #?
19:48 mbalmer I am trying to help oleonard to get his changes in.
19:48 cait sec
19:48 mbalmer I can sign off the patches on thursday
19:49 cait ah, was going to work on some of them too
19:49 cait but he did lots
19:49 mbalmer tomorrow we have our .ch meeting, but on thursday I have time for sign-offs.
19:49 rangi Ok my stop bbiab
19:49 cait 2399
19:49 mbalmer cait, yes oleanard was a maniac the last days ;)
19:50 cait he is most of the time
19:50 cait leading patch statistics
19:50 mbalmer wow.  cait, thanks for removing the backquotes.
19:51 sekjal slef: bug 7613
19:51 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7613 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Passed QA , OCLC Connexion Gateway, including extension svc/import_bib
19:51 cait yeah, but it's still a lot to remove
19:51 cait in all the sample files
19:51 cait it will need one big patch sometime
19:51 mbalmer but, hey, I can't say if the russian is correct ,)
19:51 mbalmer yes, I will take care of backquotes.
19:52 cait I think tsting if I did break the sql is enough
19:52 cait I can read it - but most words are not in my vocabulary
19:52 mbalmer The SQL looks absolutely fine to me.
19:53 mbalmer and it shows a nice MySQLism, we have to find a solution for (in the future):  LAST_INSERT_ID().  But don't care for that for now.
19:54 mbalmer your patch is ok.
19:54 mbalmer and I really appreciate that people start to omit MySQLisms.
19:55 cait I am not sure it's needed here really
19:55 cait the LAST_INSERT_ID
19:55 cait but didn't want to change it
19:55 mbalmer just keep it for now.
19:55 mbalmer so we are sure the software works ;)
19:55 mbalmer I took note of the idiom.
19:57 cait ok
19:59 mbalmer hi owen...
20:00 rangi dbi can do that, so most of the time you can use that .. it would only be in pure .sql files we'd have to find the ansi sql equiv
20:00 cait wb oleonard
20:00 mbalmer Owen Leonard The Crazy Capslocker
20:00 jcamins Why do we use LAST_INSERT_ID in pure .sql files?
20:00 jcamins That seems... wrong.
20:00 mbalmer who is now Owen leonard the craza capslocker
20:01 mbalmer jcamins, yes.  Will fix it laters
20:02 cait jcamins: I have no idea why they did it
20:02 cait but was too chicken to change it
20:02 sekjal I don't think there is a standard for last_insert_id
20:02 jcamins mbalmer: I meant, just in general, LAST_INSERT_ID seems like it should only be used in code that does processing.
20:02 mbalmer yeah, we will find a portable way one day,
20:02 jcamins (and there not so much)
20:03 jcamins Actually, using LAST_INSERT_ID seems like a bad idea in any RDBMS.
20:03 mbalmer ack.
20:03 rangi 7:59 <@rangi> dbi can do that, so most of the time you can use that
20:03 rangi jcamins: its ok in a transaction
20:03 jcamins rangi: I know. But it seems like it still wouldn't be threadsafe.
20:03 rangi but not safe otherwise
20:03 jcamins Ohh.
20:03 jcamins Of course. :)
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20:04 oleonard Yeah mbalmer, pretty soon I'm going to be heckling patches for capitalization just like you do for mysqlisms ;)
20:04 libsysguy ^^ heh
20:04 * libsysguy goes back to listening in class
20:04 mbalmer oleonard, I have time on thursday to sign off your patches, if you want.
20:05 oleonard I welcome all signer-offers
20:05 mbalmer we could work here online to try to get as much of them signed off.
20:06 mbalmer Of course I will then only address you as Owen leonard ;)
20:06 cait I think names are an exception to the rule
20:06 oleonard slef: I don't know why that patch didn't apply for you. It applies okay for me on a clean branch
20:06 cait but I think just keep signing off
20:06 jcamins And German nouns.
20:06 cait there are saved reports on bugzilla
20:07 sjeffery Hypothetically, if I managed to import a large number of Z39 records using the wrong encoding, how would I locate all records with that nice box in them?
20:07 cait we have over 90 things waiting for sign offs
20:07 cait some bug fixes
20:07 mbalmer not in this case, cait ;P
20:07 oleonard slef: You applied just the Administration one?
20:07 mbalmer oleonards patches are low hanging fruit, and I can spend some time on these.
20:07 jcamins sjeffery: you could search for invalid characters using SQL.
20:08 mbalmer the PostgreSQL changes are post 3.8 anyways
20:08 oleonard cait++ # for testing DataTables patches
20:08 cait oleonard: it looked so innocent.. and then I saw the list of patches
20:08 jcamins SELECT biblionumber FROM biblioitems WHERE marcxml LIKE "[forgot the syntax here, but you're looking for the hex value E8]"
20:08 sjeffery jcamins: Search directly in the database vs from within Koha?
20:09 jcamins You could do it with reports, or with direct command line access.
20:10 jcamins If I'm actually awake, I'll do some signing off tomorrow morning during the meeting.
20:10 cait hm
20:10 cait how many hours until the meeting?
20:11 mbalmer I'll be present at the meeting, but will be mostly passive.
20:11 oleonard 14 hours isn't it?
20:11 mbalmer cait, 10 UTC, 12:00 your time, I guess
20:11 wizzyrea ouch 5am here
20:11 cait ok
20:11 cait time zones always confuse me
20:12 * wizzyrea too
20:12 cait wizzyrea: still better than 3 am!
20:12 wizzyrea yes
20:12 mbalmer yeah, there are so many of them ;P
20:12 wizzyrea true
20:12 sjeffery no kidding!
20:12 jcamins 6am here, thankfully.
20:12 wizzyrea rule 1?
20:12 wahanui hmmm... rule 1 is "Don't Be A Dick!"
20:12 wizzyrea ah.
20:12 jcamins Myshkin will be delighted.
20:12 jcamins He feels that 5:45 is the appropriate time for me to wake up.
20:13 sekjal rule 2?
20:13 jcamins sekjal: I don't think you really need any more rules, when you have rule 1.
20:13 mbalmer "Don't Be A Pussy¨"
20:14 sekjal personally, I use "Chill Out" as rule 2
20:14 cait jcamins: myshkin! how does he like the new apartment?
20:15 * wizzyrea prefers sekjal's rules
20:15 jcamins cait: he _loves_ it.
20:15 cait hehe
20:16 mbalmer ???
20:17 jcamins logs?
20:17 wahanui it has been said that logs is
20:19 mbalmer I dislike that the IRC logs are kept publicly.  It could be a reason for me to quit the channel.
20:19 oleonard I find the IRC logs to be essential
20:19 * wizzyrea too
20:19 * jcamins too
20:19 cait It's always been logged
20:20 jcamins It encourages transparency and good behavior.
20:20 rangi since 2000 in fact
20:20 cait which pretty much is always :)
20:20 libsysguy yeah I like to go back and see how far I've come
20:20 * wizzyrea too
20:20 wizzyrea it's funny.
20:20 sekjal too much important data is transmitted in chat; I often find answers to questions in old IRC logs
20:20 * jcamins only appeared twice prior to 2008.
20:21 libsysguy when I first started I was like *derp* how do you install this thing :p
20:21 cait hm... sometimes not so much, but still good
20:21 jcamins lol
20:21 mbalmer it's voluntary "vorrartsdatenspeicherung"
20:21 cait I got really annoyed about unicode normalizations
20:21 cait because all the umlauts looked wrong
20:21 wizzyrea pretty sure all of mine were "can you make koha make toast"
20:21 cait it really took too long to figure that out :)
20:21 wizzyrea @quote get 123
20:21 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
20:21 wizzyrea ^^ a la this
20:22 jcamins My first questions were kind of embarrassing, yeah, but when I know I asked something dumb before, I can find the answer without demonstrating that I still don't get it. ;)
20:22 libsysguy im out for a bit to do some yoga
20:22 libsysguy I'll read the logs to catch up later :p
20:22 wizzyrea later libsysguy
20:22 libsysguy later #koha
20:22 mbalmer I feel uncomfortable that my statements are public, and that every discussion is public and logged.
20:22 mbalmer You guys know my email address.
20:22 sjeffery I think my first question was along the lines of "why is analytics support so lacking?" followed by having to explain to people what analytics are:(
20:23 jcamins sjeffery: I guess I wasn't around when you first signed on? ;)
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20:23 sjeffery Yeah, you were. I think your response was along the lines of OMG OMG OMG another analytics person!
20:24 jcamins sjeffery: and I'm *still* like that.
20:24 jcamins Okay, so some of us don't really change much. ;)
20:25 sekjal analytics are pretty cool.  I still want to generalize them to arbitrary biblio relationships, though
20:25 cait sekjal: yeah, that would be cool :)
20:25 rangi im pretty sure the last 12 years of my ones can be summed up as 'Wow .. MARC is crap'
20:26 jcamins lol
20:26 cait lol
20:26 cait and 'Libraries are crazy'? :)
20:26 rangi that too
20:26 rangi and 'you want what????'
20:26 cait hehe
20:27 wizzyrea @quote get 123
20:27 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
20:27 oleonard rangi: The rest of the world had to butt in and spoil a good thing ;)
20:28 * oleonard notices it's time to leave
20:28 oleonard Bye #koha. See you 13.5 hours
20:28 rangi cya oleonard
20:28 wizzyrea bye
20:28 rangi oh and hey, atarau has inhereited the fish
20:28 rangi you gave kahu
20:28 rangi he took it to kindy
20:29 wizzyrea he's old enough for that!? *weeps8
20:30 rangi
20:30 rangi we are bad parents
20:30 wizzyrea seems unlikely
20:31 wizzyrea hungry hippos is a great game
20:31 rangi yes but trying to make your kid call it 'eat balls' is a bit immature :)
20:32 wizzyrea pfft. That's what children are for
20:32 wizzyrea to let your inner 2 year old out :)
20:33 liw this is why I don't need children: my inner 2-year-old is running my life anyway
20:33 rangi heh :)
20:33 wizzyrea hehe!
20:34 * wizzyrea imagines a tantrumming liw
20:34 cait :)
20:39 * jcamins calls it a day.
20:39 rangi wow, so cool
20:39 rangi
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20:39 rangi and using Koha in Laos at least
20:39 druthb o/
20:40 rangi hey druthb
20:40 cait hi druthb :)
20:40 jcamins Good night, #koha.
20:40 druthb :)  howdy, friends.
20:40 wizzyrea hey ruth
20:41 schuster I have a Zebra question.  I have exported my data for an index but then when Zebra starts I am getting this error  zebraidx(2638) [warn] Cannot access path /tmp/RRqG2imNQS/biblio [No such file or directory]
20:42 schuster I don't see a /tmp/xxx - ??
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20:43 libsysguy logs?
20:43 wahanui well, logs is
20:44 rangi how did you run ?
20:46 schuster So it "exported" all of the records and then died with the above error on the screen
20:49 sekjal off for the day.  see you in ~ 13 hrs, #koha!
20:55 rangi schuster: you didnt run out of disk?
20:56 rangi /tmp in particular
20:56 schuster no - I'm going to run it with -k this time and see what happens
20:56 rangi good plan, and -v
20:57 schuster yep -b -r -x -v -k -w
20:58 rangi cool
20:58 schuster yish flickering lights...
20:58 rangi how are those upses :)
21:04 schuster VM machine will be fine my desktop well that's replacable!
21:05 rangi :)
21:06 schuster Takes a couple of hours just to export the 277000+ records...  but I'm getting there!
21:06 wizzyrea guess the heavy weather all stayed south
21:28 libsysguy wizzyrea yeah its about to come down here
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21:49 * jcamins returns.
21:51 wizzyrea wb
21:52 jcamins Thanks. :)
22:02 jcamins cait: isn't it a bit late?
22:04 * cait hides
22:06 eythian Hi.
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22:19 rangi @wunder nzwn
22:19 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0°C (8:10 AM NZST on April 04, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Falling).
22:21 cait @wunder konstanz
22:21 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 10.0°C (12:00 AM CEST on April 04, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.69 in 1005 hPa (Rising).
22:22 bag @wunder 93109
22:22 huginn bag: The current temperature in K6LCM-Westside/Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 21.7°C (3:21 PM PDT on April 03, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014 hPa (Falling). Wind Advisory in effect from 10 PM this evening to 6 am PDT Wednesday...
22:22 moodaepo @wunder 370096
22:22 huginn moodaepo: Error: No such location could be found.
22:23 moodaepo @wunder 30096
22:23 huginn moodaepo: The current temperature in Berkeley Lake, Berkeley Lake, Georgia is 27.3°C (6:20 PM EDT on April 03, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.81 in 1010 hPa (Falling).
22:23 rangi
22:24 * moodaepo heads home
22:31 maximep @wunder cyqb
22:31 huginn maximep: The current temperature in Quebec, Quebec is 8.0°C (6:00 PM EDT on April 03, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.75 in 1008 hPa (Steady).
22:31 libsysguy @wunder 75707
22:31 huginn libsysguy: The current temperature in Lake Tyler (D3895), Tyler, Texas is 25.8°C (5:30 PM CDT on April 03, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 22.0°C. Pressure: 29.73 in 1006 hPa (Steady). Tornado Watch 135 in effect until 10 PM CDT this evening...
22:31 maximep not 27, but not bad. Can't wait for summer -_-
22:32 * libsysguy might die in a tornado
22:32 maximep cool
22:32 maximep :p
22:32 libsysguy thanks maximep :'(
22:32 maximep if there's 1 thing good about canada is that thre's no tornadoes, no eartquakes, no nothing
22:34 libsysguy just cold
22:34 libsysguy and more cold
22:34 maximep plenty of that
22:34 libsysguy heh
22:34 cait heh
22:34 cait night :)
22:34 maximep still plenty of snow left
22:34 libsysguy its ok…texas there is pleanty of hot
22:34 libsysguy night cait
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22:37 slef @later tell oleonard no but did you want the details of the patches that applied fine? I assumed the patches were fairly orthogonal and just included the one that failed to git bz
22:37 huginn slef: The operation succeeded.
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22:42 jcamins Did t/00-merge-conflict-markers.t always take this long to run?
22:45 rangi takes me about 3 secs
22:45 jcamins Yeah, that's how long I think it usually takes.
22:45 * jcamins runs it again.
22:46 jcamins This time it was quick. Must've been something running in the background.
22:52 eythian[…]-stormtrooper.jpg
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22:58 bag ha that's great eythian
23:03 jcamins How do I reset the T::T cache?
23:03 jcamins Wait... that didn't make it into Koha yet, did it?
23:04 eythian jcamins: if you have it, a) it's unlikely you'll need to reset it, and b) to do so, just delete the cached filed.
23:05 jcamins eythian: I was talking about the memcached include caching, which isn't in Koha yet.
23:05 eythian oh right
23:05 eythian T::T has the ability to have multiple caches :)
23:07 jcamins Yup. :)
23:12 schuster ok well it says it finished...  The export takes the most time and evidently when I ran the index yesterday it was as the wrong user so in the tmp file there were files owned by root so the correct user couldn't overwrite them that is what was causing my problem.
23:12 schuster BLAH! - ok will work more on that tomorrow!
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23:19 schuster nothing found while searching... blah...  in the log I see this: zebrasrv(1)  [warn] ir_session (exception)  - what does that mean?
23:20 jcamins Hm. There are a lot of incorrect capitalizations, aren't there?
23:25 libsysguy what controls the main staff page?
23:26 eythian lasers.
23:26 libsysguy magic?
23:29 jcamins libsysguy: how do you mean?
23:29 libsysguy well I was looking for the code that populated that page
23:30 libsysguy you know…like all the circ stuff is in /circ
23:30 libsysguy and acquisitions is in /acqui
23:30 jcamins
23:30 libsysguy doh
23:41 jcamins I'm getting an error on xt/author/Test_CSV_Various.t because I don't have Text::CSV::Unicode.
23:42 jcamins Does anyone else get that?
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