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dgl-library |
hi, can I ask a question about the *optional data* in the web install? |
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cait |
good morning #koha |
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sturmtruppen |
morning #koha |
07:41 |
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sturmtruppen |
[fatal] lock file /var/lock/koha/zebradb/biblios/zebrasrv.pid [Permission denied] |
07:41 |
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sturmtruppen |
that's my last error... |
07:43 |
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cait |
permissions |
07:43 |
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cait |
just what it says |
07:43 |
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cait |
the owner of your koha files |
07:43 |
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cait |
should own the files of zebra too |
07:44 |
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cait |
you did the dev install using git? |
07:44 |
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sturmtruppen |
nope |
07:44 |
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sturmtruppen |
my fault. |
07:45 |
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sturmtruppen |
how can i change thw owner? |
07:45 |
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cait |
hm? |
07:45 |
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cait |
oh |
07:45 |
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cait |
now you got me, always have to look these things up :) |
07:45 |
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cait |
... still a linux newb |
07:46 |
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cait |
I think |
07:46 |
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cait |
chown -R user:group koha-dev/... |
07:46 |
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cait |
something like that |
07:46 |
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cait |
perhaps using sudo |
07:48 |
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sturmtruppen |
i'll try |
07:49 |
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sturmtruppen |
nope, both case. |
07:50 |
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sturmtruppen |
koha user and zebra user are the same |
07:50 |
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sturmtruppen |
but i have still problem |
07:51 |
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cait |
hmm |
07:51 |
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cait |
but it is a permission problem |
07:51 |
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cait |
have you checked for that file? |
07:51 |
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cait |
oh |
07:51 |
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sturmtruppen |
yep, i see but i don't understand how to solve... |
07:51 |
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cait |
it's still the standard install |
07:51 |
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cait |
from the path |
07:52 |
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cait |
I mean you did a standard install |
07:52 |
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cait |
from git perhaps, but a standard one :) |
07:52 |
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sturmtruppen |
the file exist |
07:52 |
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cait |
have you checked the permissions on this file? |
07:53 |
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sturmtruppen |
the user has no permission on this file |
07:54 |
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sturmtruppen |
i changed |
07:54 |
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sturmtruppen |
[fatal] Zebra server already running [Resource temporarily unavailable] |
07:56 |
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cait |
perhaps change for the whole koha folder |
07:56 |
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cait |
and restart the zebreasrv |
07:58 |
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sturmtruppen |
i'll try when i'm back. |
07:58 |
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sturmtruppen |
i have to run to the swimmingpool! |
07:59 |
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sturmtruppen |
thanks for your help! |
07:59 |
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sturmtruppen |
chocolate..., i'll remember! |
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cait |
heh, it isn't working yet :) |
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drojf |
good day #koha |
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cait |
hi drojf :) |
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drojf |
hi cait :) |
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mbalmer |
koharning! |
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cait |
kia ora |
08:44 |
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mbalmer |
I wonder how much speed improvement running the database on a separate server would bring |
08:47 |
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cait |
I don't know, we never tried |
09:01 |
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drojf |
does koha use the ldr 06 (type of record) entry for anything besides what i can see in the xsl file? |
09:04 |
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mbalmer |
who is the german language translation team? cait? |
09:04 |
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cait |
sorry - just got a phone call - I am an aunt again! |
09:04 |
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cait |
mbalmer: it's a general name, not really a team |
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drojf |
congratulations :) |
09:05 |
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cait |
there is beda from switzerland, drojf, my coworkers, me |
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mbalmer |
congrats, cait! |
09:05 |
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mbalmer |
oh, we have more users in switzerland? |
09:05 |
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cait |
drojf: I think only the xslt |
09:05 |
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cait |
yes |
09:05 |
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cait |
check the about page of koha |
09:06 |
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cait |
there is the full name |
09:06 |
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mbalmer |
We should do a translation hackathon one day.. |
09:06 |
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cait |
he is a monk and a teacher I think |
09:06 |
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mbalmer |
anf fix all missing translation |
09:06 |
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cait |
I think at the moment the only things missing is due to translations problems |
09:06 |
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cait |
like a missing script to create a po file for the xml plugins in cataloging |
09:07 |
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cait |
and lots of typos still to find and correct |
09:07 |
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cait |
I did some work on suggestions yesterday |
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mbalmer |
I don't find a Beda in the Koha development team list |
09:07 |
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cait |
mbalmer: de-DE ok for you or do you need a swiss german version? :) |
09:07 |
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cait |
no, but on the about |
09:08 |
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cait |
for translators |
09:08 |
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drojf |
guess i should get my name in there too one day ^^ |
09:08 |
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cait |
oh yes |
09:08 |
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cait |
we should do that! |
09:08 |
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mbalmer |
yes, I should eventually add mine, too |
09:08 |
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mbalmer |
now I found him |
09:09 |
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mbalmer |
cait, for the moment de-DE is ok. Maybe one day we need de-CH if a customer requests it. There are some differences, like we don't have the ess-zett |
09:09 |
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* drojf |
would like to see koha schwyzerdütsch |
09:09 |
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mbalmer |
drojf, you're swiss? |
09:10 |
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drojf |
nope |
09:10 |
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drojf |
german |
09:10 |
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mbalmer |
I think at the moment a swiss version would make little sense. |
09:11 |
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cait |
sorry, brb |
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drojf |
how much koha libraries are there in switzerland? |
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cait |
have to make aunty phone calls |
09:11 |
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drojf |
heh |
09:11 |
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drojf |
how many |
09:11 |
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drojf |
me fail english this morning |
09:12 |
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mbalmer |
me groks anyways words from drojf ;) |
09:13 |
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mbalmer |
well, we have three koha instances running now, two for development (using git), one for demonstration (using packages) and no customer yet. |
09:13 |
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mbalmer |
I think some uni bib in .ch uses it. |
09:14 |
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mbalmer |
I have one large and several smaller libraries as customers, but they don't use Koha (yet ;) |
09:14 |
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drojf |
one day they all will ;) |
09:16 |
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drojf |
koha is not very widespread in germany either, i guess it takes time. the concept of "free and open source software" seems to be something very strange for people here |
09:17 |
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mbalmer |
no, that concept actually *TOTALLY* convinces all people we talk to. They are totally supportive of it. |
09:18 |
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mbalmer |
Just no one wants to be the first to use Koha, they all fear being the pioneers. But they are impressed. |
09:18 |
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mbalmer |
so It's about finding the first customer, then more will come quite automatically. |
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mbalmer |
does beda show up in this channel from time to time? |
09:19 |
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cait |
back :) |
09:20 |
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cait |
mbalmer: no, but he answers mails |
09:20 |
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cait |
I had some mail contact with him a longer time ago |
09:20 |
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drojf |
that sounds good actually. i hope to get some institutions like ours to use koha. i work in a language center at a university, they are usually independent of the university libraries and have some selfmade databases, paper books or no systems at all :D |
09:20 |
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cait |
and he also answers mails on the german mailing list sometimes |
09:20 |
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cait |
competitors whereever I look ;) |
09:20 |
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mbalmer |
he wrote a tex system to set gregorian chants, he must be quite a freak (in the most positive sense) |
09:20 |
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cait |
well, we will have 9 productive installations soon this year I hope |
09:21 |
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cait |
andhopefully finding more :) |
09:21 |
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mbalmer |
cait, no we are not competitors, as I understand it. We don't have the same clients in mind, iirc. |
09:22 |
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mbalmer |
and even if we do, that would be fine for me. |
09:22 |
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cait |
mbalmer: I was not serious, I think it's good :) |
09:22 |
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drojf |
cait: you have a monopoly right now. nothing against what you do, but i would love to see more independent koha libraries too. would have the effect of spreading it further and more people to talk to ;) |
09:22 |
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mbalmer |
aren't you after the university libraries and such? |
09:22 |
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cait |
drojf: what, you don't like talking to me? :P |
09:22 |
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drojf |
cait: one day we could take over my university library together |
09:23 |
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dgl-library |
Hi #koha |
09:23 |
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mbalmer |
we are after the public libraries, community libraries etc. |
09:23 |
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drojf |
lol that is not what i meant :P |
09:23 |
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cait |
drojf: heh, sorry, I am mean |
09:23 |
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mbalmer |
or, in one word: world domination (ok, two words) |
09:23 |
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mbalmer |
and then we expand to germany.. |
09:23 |
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drojf |
maybe i get bored and start a koha business too ;) |
09:24 |
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cait |
mbalmer: we have more academic/special libraries |
09:24 |
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drojf |
mbalmer: not if i start a business! lol |
09:24 |
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dgl-library |
Anyone — is there a way in Koha to charge a refundable deposit per item? Not a rental charge, but a fixed deposit fee? I'm hoping Koha will keep track of the deposit and remind the librarian to give it back at check-in time. |
09:24 |
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mbalmer |
you could run our germany branch, drojf |
09:24 |
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drojf |
mbalmer: that does not sound too bad :D |
09:25 |
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cait |
dgl-library: sorry, currently not |
09:25 |
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cait |
dgl-library: you can only do rental charges |
09:27 |
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cait |
dgl-library: and they are not supposed to be given back - Ithink what you want to do woul dneed some development |
09:33 |
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dgl-library |
cait: thanks for the info. wish I were a programmer — I'd add that. for a small library like ours, refundable deposit fees are a must. too bad we'll have to keep a written list instead. |
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cait |
dgl-library: where are you located? |
09:33 |
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cait |
it's a practice that I have not heard of yet |
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drojf |
me neither. where are you located dgl-library? |
09:35 |
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dgl-library |
India |
09:36 |
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dgl-library |
and our library isn't a public library, it's basically a school library — but people from the community can borrow if they leave a deposit for each item |
09:36 |
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mbalmer |
Dharamshala, Candor? |
09:37 |
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drojf |
is it common in india? there are quite some libreries there using koha i think, so maybe you can share the development costs |
09:37 |
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dgl-library |
near Palampur |
09:37 |
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dgl-library |
drojf: there are very few actual lending libraries in India, maybe because loss is such a problem (or trust is such a problem) |
09:38 |
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drojf |
i see |
09:38 |
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dgl-library |
mbalmer: where are you? |
09:38 |
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mbalmer |
in Switzerland |
09:38 |
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dgl-library |
mbalmer: anyway we're near Dharamsala |
09:39 |
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dgl-library |
drojf: we're on a really small budget, so I don't think we'd be the right people to fund that effort. one of the reasons we're using koha is because it's basically free. |
09:40 |
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mbalmer |
you are also free to add the features you need.. just saying.. |
09:40 |
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wahanui |
okay, mbalmer. |
09:41 |
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dgl-library |
mbalmer: I would love to, but I can barely get through the install — I'm not a programmer. |
09:41 |
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mbalmer |
maybe you find one, a student or so? |
09:42 |
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dgl-library |
it's a good idea for us to consider later on. right now I'm still trying to set up koha. |
09:43 |
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dgl-library |
Another question: We are using our own private classification system, not Dewey Decimal or any other established system. Do I add our classifications in Home > Administration > Authorized Values? And then there I would make a category called DGL Classification System, and then each heading and description? Or does it go somewhere else? |
09:43 |
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mbalmer |
I have the reversed problem, I am a programmer, but I have only very limited librarian's knowledge... |
09:44 |
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cait |
dgl-library: yes |
09:44 |
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cait |
dgl-library: I would add your system and add generic filing rule to it |
09:44 |
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dgl-library |
mbalmer: ha ha! you have a big advantage. I am neither a programmer nor a librarian. |
09:44 |
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cait |
unless you can figure out something better |
09:44 |
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cait |
dgl-library: and there is a system preference to make it the default in newly created records - perhaps search for class... it should show up |
09:44 |
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dgl-library |
cait: thanks. and then I will be able to add the classification to each record manually using a pull-down menu, right? |
09:45 |
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cait |
you will still be able to select another |
09:45 |
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cait |
but your classification will be preselected |
09:45 |
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cait |
when you use the system preference :) |
09:45 |
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cait |
so you will not have to select it |
09:48 |
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dgl-library |
cait: you mean I will select it as the numbering system, and it will automatically present me with the pull-down menu? or do you mean the system will choose the right call number? |
09:48 |
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cait |
hm |
09:48 |
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cait |
perhaps there is a misunderstanding |
09:48 |
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cait |
koha will not take care of your callnumbers |
09:48 |
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cait |
the classification system helps with sorting |
09:51 |
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dgl-library |
cait: yes, I'm afraid I don't quite understand, or perhaps I wasn't saying it right. Let's say we have a section called BB, in which there are headings BB1000, BB2000 and BB3000. Can I select those via the classification system? |
09:51 |
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cait |
no |
09:51 |
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cait |
it's not made to do that i fear |
09:52 |
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cait |
I think what you want to do... could perhaps done via a cataloging plugin |
09:52 |
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cait |
but that would need development too :( |
09:52 |
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cait |
it can suggest a callnumber from a field in the bibliographic record |
09:52 |
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cait |
so if you pull records from loc it could suggest the ddc number |
09:53 |
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cait |
and if you catlaog your callnumber in the record, it can suggest that in the item |
09:54 |
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dgl-library |
hmm. but I was going to put our callnumber heading in the MARC 099 field ("LOCAL FREE-TEXT CALL NUMBER (OCLC)") and make all our headings available via a pulldown which I would populate via authorized values. won't that do it? |
09:55 |
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dgl-library |
maybe I'm confusing the terms "callnumber" and "heading" or "classification" (sorry… not a librarian, just a volunteer) |
09:55 |
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cait |
dgl-library: that sounds like it could work :) |
09:56 |
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cait |
check for the systempreferneces related to callnumbers and classifications |
09:56 |
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dgl-library |
cait: am I going about it in an unusual way? or maybe it's just unusual to use a non-standard classification system.. |
09:56 |
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cait |
you can put in the 099 as the value for callnumbers |
09:56 |
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dgl-library |
oh? let me have a look |
09:56 |
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cait |
hm no, I think it will work |
09:56 |
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dgl-library |
itemcallnumber |
09:57 |
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dgl-library |
Map the MARC subfield 082ab to an item's callnumber. |
09:58 |
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dgl-library |
so I'd change that to 099 and then koha will use that as the callnumber, right? and if there were subfields (first 3 letters of author's name, first 3 letters of title) it would be 099ab? |
09:58 |
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cait |
it will pull down the value from 099a or b or whatever |
09:58 |
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cait |
into the item |
09:58 |
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cait |
when you catalog |
09:58 |
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dgl-library |
right |
09:58 |
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cait |
it's to make your life easier - not sure it will cover all you want to do |
09:59 |
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dgl-library |
I was kind of hoping there would be a way for koha to use our call heading + grab a few bits automatically (first 3 letters of author's name, first 3 letters of title) to make the full call number and/or the bit that gets printed on the spine label. |
09:59 |
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dgl-library |
but I will start by changing that to 099 — thanks for the tip on that |
10:00 |
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cait |
dgl-library: what you could do |
10:00 |
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cait |
is file an enh request in bugzilla |
10:00 |
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cait |
perhaps it will help you find someone who is interested |
10:00 |
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cait |
or you will get to know about someone planning a development for this |
10:00 |
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cait |
it will not hurt |
10:01 |
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dgl-library |
cait: thanks for that suggestion. |
10:16 |
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dgl-library |
cait: do I have to go through and manually configure that MARC 099 field for every single MARC framework separately? |
10:16 |
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cait |
if it's nto there yet - yes |
10:18 |
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dgl-library |
well, the 099 field is there, but it's normally set up differently by default. so I have to go in and set it up for Books, then set it up again for Fast Add, etc.? |
10:18 |
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cait |
yes |
10:23 |
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dgl-library |
ok |
10:47 |
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dgl-library |
Question - When there are 2 fields in Koha, "Description" and "Description (OPAC)", if I leave the OPAC description field blank, the OPAC will show what I have in the "Description" field and not be blank, right? |
10:47 |
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cait |
hm |
10:47 |
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cait |
I think so |
10:47 |
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cait |
have never tested it |
10:47 |
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cait |
normally I put the same in both |
10:59 |
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dgl-library |
hmm. |
11:13 |
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dgl-library |
Is there anyone who knows the answer to that for sure, because I'm about 1/3 of the way through this process… maybe I should just go back and fill in all the OPAC display values. The thing is that the sample data had all the OPAC display values blank. |
11:16 |
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cait |
dgl-library: I think i would try it out then |
11:16 |
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cait |
it should work |
11:16 |
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mbalmer |
what is the ILS-DI service, which can be activated in sysprefs? |
11:19 |
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cait |
hm |
11:19 |
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cait |
it's an api |
11:19 |
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cait |
to connect to other catalog interfaces |
11:19 |
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cait |
sopac |
11:20 |
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cait |
http://old.diglib.org/architectures/ilsdi/ |
11:20 |
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cait |
the documentation is accessible when it's activated, via the opac |
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test_marcb |
test |
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cait |
hm |
12:43 |
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mbalmer |
that was me. |
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jcamins_away |
Good morning, sekjal. |
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sekjal |
morning, jcamins |
12:55 |
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cait |
morning sekjal |
12:55 |
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sekjal |
hmmm, looks like the de-nesting of C4/Items has broken bulkmarcimport |
12:55 |
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jcamins |
sekjal: that's unfortunate. |
12:56 |
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cait |
yeah... |
12:56 |
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cait |
teaches us things about denesting |
12:56 |
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sekjal |
working on a fix... |
12:58 |
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sekjal |
okay, just needed to scope the usage of GetBranchName |
13:04 |
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jcamins |
sekjal: setting up your home library? |
13:05 |
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sekjal |
jcamins: had the urge to hack on Koha a bit |
13:05 |
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sekjal |
and had a few hours free |
13:05 |
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cait |
:) |
13:05 |
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cait |
we support that urge |
13:05 |
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sekjal |
but yes, setting up my test install was what caused me to find this |
13:15 |
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sekjal |
idea: what about moving all our cover image code into a T:T filter? |
13:15 |
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sekjal |
[% normalised_isbn | $KohaCoverImages %] would be all we need to call |
13:16 |
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sekjal |
and the logic would then be centralized |
13:16 |
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jcamins |
That seems like an excellent idea. |
13:16 |
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jcamins |
Except that some of the cover code doesn't use ISBN. |
13:17 |
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sekjal |
hmmm... what other keys are used? |
13:17 |
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jcamins |
biblionumber for local cover images. |
13:18 |
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cait |
hm |
13:19 |
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cait |
but we could give both numbers to the plugin maybe? |
13:19 |
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sekjal |
if we give biblionumber, it'd be simple enough to fetch the ISBN |
13:19 |
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cait |
or that |
13:19 |
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cait |
:) |
13:19 |
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jcamins |
Ah, good point. |
13:19 |
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jcamins |
Though that doesn't reduce the number of times we process the record. |
13:20 |
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sekjal |
yeah, it's be nice to to refetch info we already have |
13:22 |
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jcamins |
sekjal: have you used Fedora Commons at all? |
13:23 |
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sekjal |
jcamins: no |
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jcamins |
sekjal: how did you get that error? |
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sekjal |
jcamins: bulkmarcimport.pl -b -file path/to/file.mrc |
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jcamins |
sekjal: hm. Must be a result of 7001 or 7408, because that works for me. |
13:31 |
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jcamins |
Nope. |
13:32 |
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jcamins |
Hm. |
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jcamins |
Oh, I know. I bet this record doesn't have any items. |
13:35 |
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jcamins |
Yeah, that was it. |
13:36 |
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cait |
hm? |
13:36 |
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jcamins |
No items. |
13:37 |
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sekjal |
damn. the patch I wanted to work on was on my (now stolen) laptop only.... I have to reimplement from scratch |
13:37 |
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cait |
eew |
13:37 |
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cait |
stolen laptop? that's evil |
13:37 |
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sekjal |
it was my "welcome to the new job" gift... first day |
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jcamins |
Oops. |
13:42 |
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* jcamins |
forgot that he automated the whole upload process. |
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sekjal |
anyone want to test my patch for bug 5698? |
14:09 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5698 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Provide datepicker for sql reports runtime parameters |
14:10 |
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jcamins |
Once I've finished rebasing bug 7284 on 3.6.x I'll go back to signing off. |
14:10 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements |
14:11 |
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cait |
:) |
14:11 |
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cait |
I can try later - only have to buy some food first |
14:13 |
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sekjal |
okay, I've accomplished *something*. time to get cleaned up and ready to face the day |
14:13 |
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sekjal |
later, #koha! |
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jcamins |
git qa & git so are pretty awesome. |
15:05 |
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jcamins |
Well, very awesome. |
15:25 |
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cait |
oh |
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cait |
what is it? |
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* cait |
wants part of the awesomeness :) |
15:25 |
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jcamins |
git? |
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wahanui |
git is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Control_Using_Git |
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jcamins |
^^ at the end there's a link to the tips and tricks page. |
15:28 |
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cait |
hmm |
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cait |
will I remember the password on the old laptop? |
15:28 |
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jcamins |
I don't know. |
15:28 |
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cait |
yep |
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jcamins |
Yay! |
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jcamins |
Hey, you know what would be fun? |
15:45 |
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jcamins |
Signing off on bug 7587. |
15:45 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7587 critical, P1 - high, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Wrong table name for local cover images |
15:45 |
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jcamins |
Alas, I can't do that... |
15:45 |
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jcamins |
Hey! I know! |
15:45 |
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jcamins |
cait: you can! :D |
15:45 |
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cait |
hhe |
15:45 |
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cait |
yes |
15:45 |
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cait |
I will |
15:45 |
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cait |
give me a little more time |
15:45 |
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cait |
setting up my work desk |
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jcamins |
:) |
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jcamins |
bug 6932 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6932 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Needs Signoff , Javascript errors in irregular pattern check update |
17:25 |
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cait |
can you translate that? |
17:25 |
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jcamins |
Translate what? |
17:26 |
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jcamins |
ie-- |
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cait |
what it means :) |
17:29 |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
17:29 |
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jcamins |
I don't think I can. |
17:29 |
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jcamins |
I don't think I can figure out what it's supposed to do. ;) |
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cait |
oh |
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cait |
grr |
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rangi |
grr? |
17:48 |
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cait |
I was annoyed at mysql |
17:49 |
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cait |
good morning :) |
17:50 |
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rangi |
morning |
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jcamins |
Morning. |
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wahanui |
rumour has it morning is a state of mind |
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cait |
heh |
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rangi |
@wunder nzwn |
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huginn |
rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0°C (7:00 AM NZDT on March 11, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). |
18:11 |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 8.0°C (7:00 PM CET on March 10, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 26%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Pressure: 30.55 in 1034 hPa (Falling). |
18:23 |
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jcamins |
Oh! rangi, since you're here, any idea how to create an SSL client certificate? |
18:23 |
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jcamins |
Also, do we have instructions for enabling SSL for Koha? |
18:25 |
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rangi |
nope and no :) |
18:26 |
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* jcamins |
will ask eythian if he is around next time a sign-off spree comes around. :) |
18:29 |
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rangi |
yeah he's the one to ask |
18:30 |
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jcamins |
Does anyone happen to recall where paul_p put his sample UNIMARC database? |
18:31 |
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cait |
hmm |
18:31 |
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cait |
in the sandbox |
18:31 |
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cait |
I haven#t seen it as a file somewhere |
18:31 |
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jcamins |
Right, but there's a git repo with the SQL dump, somewhere. |
18:31 |
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cait |
perhaps there is a note on the sandbox page? |
18:31 |
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jcamins |
sandboxes? |
18:31 |
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jcamins |
sandbox? |
18:31 |
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cait |
sorry, haven't seen it |
18:32 |
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jcamins |
Good thought. I'll check. |
18:32 |
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* jcamins |
was checking if wahanui knew. |
18:32 |
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jcamins |
sandboxes are http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sandboxes |
18:37 |
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jcamins |
Found one. |
18:37 |
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jcamins |
UNIMARC sample database is at http://git.biblibre.com/?p=dat[…]ree;f=sql/unimarc |
18:38 |
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cait |
:) |
18:41 |
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jcamins |
I will try to sign off on bug 3216 in a little while. |
18:41 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3216 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, frederic, Needs Signoff , UNIMARC author facets |
18:41 |
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jcamins |
Right now I'm signing off on bug 7697. |
18:41 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7697 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, Needs Signoff , Clean up borrower.textmessaging leftover code |
18:42 |
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jcamins |
Seriously, anyone who doesn't have git qa and git so is doing *way* too much work. |
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cait |
jcamins++ |
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mbalmer |
I wonder if Koha can work with 2D barcodes (1-2 KB of data) |
19:28 |
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jcamins |
mbalmer: it could, if you changed the maximum size of the barcode field. |
19:28 |
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mbalmer |
in the db, that is? or in the webform? |
19:28 |
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jcamins |
Both. |
19:29 |
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mbalmer |
I C |
19:29 |
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jcamins |
And you'd need to think very seriously about whether it was necessary, because I'm pretty sure that indexing 1-2KB strings is going to be slow no matter what. |
19:29 |
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mbalmer |
not with a real database |
19:30 |
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jcamins |
mbalmer: you're telling me that there's no impact on performance in postgres if you increase the size of an index by... |
19:31 |
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mbalmer |
no no, I am not yet telling anything ;) |
19:31 |
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jcamins |
three orders of magnitude. |
19:32 |
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mbalmer |
but I kind of like your assocation of "a real database" with PostgreSQL. |
19:32 |
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jcamins |
Well, given your frequent insistence that postgres is the only legitimate database, what other database would I assume you were talking about? |
19:33 |
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mbalmer |
oh oh, I did not use that wording, I assume... |
19:33 |
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jcamins |
Something along those lines. |
19:34 |
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* cait |
nods |
19:35 |
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mbalmer |
There are good reasons to favour PostgreSQL over other databases, indeed. But making Koha run on PostgreSQL needs work, I would estimate one year until it happens. |
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* jcamins |
waves to wizzyrea |
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* wizzyrea |
waves |
19:49 |
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cait |
hi wizzyrea :) |
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wizzyrea |
hi cait :) |
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* jcamins |
waves to wizzyrea again. |
20:34 |
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wizzyrea |
heya |
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cait |
wb :) |
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wizzyrea |
cait, what was that fennel salad you were telling me about |
20:47 |
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* wizzyrea |
wants to try it |
20:50 |
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mbalmer |
fennel salad? omg.. |
20:51 |
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cait |
um |
20:51 |
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cait |
fennel, olive oil, chilli, brown sugar, salt, mango? |
20:51 |
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cait |
:) |
20:51 |
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cait |
mango goes in last |
20:51 |
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cait |
fennel cut into thin slices + spices |
20:52 |
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cait |
then knead (?) and small mango / other fruit / nothing last |
20:52 |
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cait |
wizzyrea: still here? :) |
20:52 |
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wizzyrea |
yepper |
20:53 |
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* wizzyrea |
drools a bit |
20:53 |
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wizzyrea |
ty :) |
20:53 |
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cait |
mbalmer: was that positive or negative? |
20:53 |
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* wizzyrea |
likes fennel |
20:53 |
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* cait |
too :) |
20:54 |
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mbalmer |
I won't tell ;) |
20:54 |
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* cait |
will try to find fennel for you in marseille and find out |
20:54 |
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mbalmer |
he he ;) |
20:55 |
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jcamins |
Okay... why doesn't this work? |
20:55 |
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cait |
my salad works! |
20:55 |
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jcamins |
Oh, because 100d isn't part of the au index. |
20:55 |
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cait |
hm |
20:55 |
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cait |
@marc 100 d |
20:55 |
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huginn |
cait: Dates associated with a name Dates of birth, death, or flourishing, or any other date associated with a name. |
20:55 |
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cait |
ah cool |
20:55 |
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cait |
I thought that was it |
21:02 |
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jcamins |
I don't think these limits are formed correctly. |
21:24 |
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jcamins |
Argh! git.biblibre.com is down. |
21:31 |
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jcamins |
Bah. |
21:31 |
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jcamins |
I can't sign off on bug 3216. |
21:32 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3216 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, frederic, Needs Signoff , UNIMARC author facets |
21:34 |
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jcamins |
It doesn't make any change for MARC21, and I can't get BibLibre's UNIMARC data. |
21:38 |
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cait |
:( |
21:38 |
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cait |
so te link didn't work? |
21:38 |
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cait |
oh |
21:38 |
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cait |
i see |
21:39 |
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jcamins |
It might have earlier, but first I was testing MARC21. |
21:45 |
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jcamins |
bug 7680 |
21:45 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7680 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Create a PatronDefaultView preference to control whether patron links go to circ or patron details |
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cait |
wizzyrea++ |
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cait |
wizzyrea? |
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wahanui |
I LIKE SCIENCE |
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bag |
@wunder 93109 |
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huginn |
bag: The current temperature in K6LCM-Westside/Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 17.4°C (3:26 PM PST on March 10, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012.4 hPa (Steady). |
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bag |
hmm.. feels hotter than that - ahh must be the solar flares |
23:27 |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 0.4°C (12:24 AM CET on March 11, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.55 in 1034.4 hPa (Falling). |
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cait |
@wunder marseille |
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cait: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 4.0°C (12:00 AM CET on March 11, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady). |
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