Time Nick Message 23:28 huginn cait: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 4.0°C (12:00 AM CET on March 11, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady). 23:27 cait @wunder marseille 23:27 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 0.4°C (12:24 AM CET on March 11, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.55 in 1034.4 hPa (Falling). 23:27 cait @wunder Konstanz 23:27 bag hmm.. feels hotter than that - ahh must be the solar flares 23:26 huginn bag: The current temperature in K6LCM-Westside/Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 17.4°C (3:26 PM PST on March 10, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012.4 hPa (Steady). 23:26 bag @wunder 93109 22:23 wahanui I LIKE SCIENCE 22:23 cait wizzyrea? 22:20 cait wizzyrea++ 21:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7680 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Create a PatronDefaultView preference to control whether patron links go to circ or patron details 21:45 jcamins bug 7680 21:39 jcamins It might have earlier, but first I was testing MARC21. 21:38 cait i see 21:38 cait oh 21:38 cait so te link didn't work? 21:38 cait :( 21:34 jcamins It doesn't make any change for MARC21, and I can't get BibLibre's UNIMARC data. 21:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3216 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, frederic, Needs Signoff , UNIMARC author facets 21:31 jcamins I can't sign off on bug 3216. 21:31 jcamins Bah. 21:24 jcamins Argh! git.biblibre.com is down. 21:02 jcamins I don't think these limits are formed correctly. 20:55 cait I thought that was it 20:55 cait ah cool 20:55 huginn cait: Dates associated with a name Dates of birth, death, or flourishing, or any other date associated with a name. 20:55 cait @marc 100 d 20:55 cait hm 20:55 jcamins Oh, because 100d isn't part of the au index. 20:55 cait my salad works! 20:55 jcamins Okay... why doesn't this work? 20:54 mbalmer he he ;) 20:54 * cait will try to find fennel for you in marseille and find out 20:54 mbalmer I won't tell ;) 20:53 * cait too :) 20:53 * wizzyrea likes fennel 20:53 cait mbalmer: was that positive or negative? 20:53 wizzyrea ty :) 20:53 * wizzyrea drools a bit 20:52 wizzyrea yepper 20:52 cait wizzyrea: still here? :) 20:52 cait then knead (?) and small mango / other fruit / nothing last 20:51 cait fennel cut into thin slices + spices 20:51 cait mango goes in last 20:51 cait :) 20:51 cait fennel, olive oil, chilli, brown sugar, salt, mango? 20:51 cait um 20:50 mbalmer fennel salad? omg.. 20:47 * wizzyrea wants to try it 20:47 wizzyrea cait, what was that fennel salad you were telling me about 20:35 cait wb :) 20:34 wizzyrea heya 20:34 * jcamins waves to wizzyrea again. 19:49 wizzyrea hi cait :) 19:49 cait hi wizzyrea :) 19:49 * wizzyrea waves 19:49 * jcamins waves to wizzyrea 19:35 mbalmer There are good reasons to favour PostgreSQL over other databases, indeed. But making Koha run on PostgreSQL needs work, I would estimate one year until it happens. 19:34 * cait nods 19:33 jcamins Something along those lines. 19:33 mbalmer oh oh, I did not use that wording, I assume... 19:32 jcamins Well, given your frequent insistence that postgres is the only legitimate database, what other database would I assume you were talking about? 19:32 mbalmer but I kind of like your assocation of "a real database" with PostgreSQL. 19:31 jcamins three orders of magnitude. 19:31 mbalmer no no, I am not yet telling anything ;) 19:30 jcamins mbalmer: you're telling me that there's no impact on performance in postgres if you increase the size of an index by... 19:29 mbalmer not with a real database 19:29 jcamins And you'd need to think very seriously about whether it was necessary, because I'm pretty sure that indexing 1-2KB strings is going to be slow no matter what. 19:29 mbalmer I C 19:28 jcamins Both. 19:28 mbalmer in the db, that is? or in the webform? 19:28 jcamins mbalmer: it could, if you changed the maximum size of the barcode field. 19:26 mbalmer I wonder if Koha can work with 2D barcodes (1-2 KB of data) 19:10 cait jcamins++ 18:42 jcamins Seriously, anyone who doesn't have git qa and git so is doing *way* too much work. 18:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7697 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, Needs Signoff , Clean up borrower.textmessaging leftover code 18:41 jcamins Right now I'm signing off on bug 7697. 18:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3216 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, frederic, Needs Signoff , UNIMARC author facets 18:41 jcamins I will try to sign off on bug 3216 in a little while. 18:38 cait :) 18:37 jcamins UNIMARC sample database is at http://git.biblibre.com/?p=data;a=tree;f=sql/unimarc 18:37 jcamins Found one. 18:32 jcamins sandboxes are http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sandboxes 18:32 * jcamins was checking if wahanui knew. 18:32 jcamins Good thought. I'll check. 18:31 cait sorry, haven't seen it 18:31 jcamins sandbox? 18:31 jcamins sandboxes? 18:31 cait perhaps there is a note on the sandbox page? 18:31 jcamins Right, but there's a git repo with the SQL dump, somewhere. 18:31 cait I haven#t seen it as a file somewhere 18:31 cait in the sandbox 18:31 cait hmm 18:30 jcamins Does anyone happen to recall where paul_p put his sample UNIMARC database? 18:29 rangi yeah he's the one to ask 18:26 * jcamins will ask eythian if he is around next time a sign-off spree comes around. :) 18:25 rangi nope and no :) 18:23 jcamins Also, do we have instructions for enabling SSL for Koha? 18:23 jcamins Oh! rangi, since you're here, any idea how to create an SSL client certificate? 18:11 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 8.0°C (7:00 PM CET on March 10, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 26%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Pressure: 30.55 in 1034 hPa (Falling). 18:11 cait @wunder Konstanz 18:11 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0°C (7:00 AM NZDT on March 11, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). 18:11 rangi @wunder nzwn 17:51 cait heh 17:50 wahanui rumour has it morning is a state of mind 17:50 jcamins Morning. 17:50 rangi morning 17:49 cait good morning :) 17:48 cait I was annoyed at mysql 17:48 rangi grr? 17:33 cait grr 17:31 cait oh 17:29 jcamins I don't think I can figure out what it's supposed to do. ;) 17:29 jcamins I don't think I can. 17:29 jcamins Ah. 17:29 cait what it means :) 17:26 jcamins ie-- 17:25 jcamins Translate what? 17:25 cait can you translate that? 17:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6932 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Needs Signoff , Javascript errors in irregular pattern check update 17:23 jcamins bug 6932 15:48 jcamins :) 15:45 cait setting up my work desk 15:45 cait give me a little more time 15:45 cait I will 15:45 cait yes 15:45 cait hhe 15:45 jcamins cait: you can! :D 15:45 jcamins Hey! I know! 15:45 jcamins Alas, I can't do that... 15:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7587 critical, P1 - high, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Wrong table name for local cover images 15:45 jcamins Signing off on bug 7587. 15:45 jcamins Hey, you know what would be fun? 15:32 jcamins Yay! 15:28 cait yep 15:28 jcamins I don't know. 15:28 cait will I remember the password on the old laptop? 15:28 cait hmm 15:26 jcamins ^^ at the end there's a link to the tips and tricks page. 15:25 wahanui git is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git 15:25 jcamins git? 15:25 * cait wants part of the awesomeness :) 15:25 cait what is it? 15:25 cait oh 15:05 jcamins Well, very awesome. 15:03 jcamins git qa & git so are pretty awesome. 14:13 sekjal later, #koha! 14:13 sekjal okay, I've accomplished *something*. time to get cleaned up and ready to face the day 14:11 cait I can try later - only have to buy some food first 14:11 cait :) 14:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements 14:10 jcamins Once I've finished rebasing bug 7284 on 3.6.x I'll go back to signing off. 14:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5698 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Provide datepicker for sql reports runtime parameters 14:09 sekjal anyone want to test my patch for bug 5698? 13:42 * jcamins forgot that he automated the whole upload process. 13:42 jcamins Oops. 13:37 sekjal it was my "welcome to the new job" gift... first day 13:37 cait stolen laptop? that's evil 13:37 cait eew 13:37 sekjal damn. the patch I wanted to work on was on my (now stolen) laptop only.... I have to reimplement from scratch 13:36 jcamins No items. 13:36 cait hm? 13:35 jcamins Yeah, that was it. 13:33 jcamins Oh, I know. I bet this record doesn't have any items. 13:32 jcamins Hm. 13:31 jcamins Nope. 13:31 jcamins sekjal: hm. Must be a result of 7001 or 7408, because that works for me. 13:29 sekjal jcamins: bulkmarcimport.pl -b -file path/to/file.mrc 13:29 jcamins sekjal: how did you get that error? 13:23 sekjal jcamins: no 13:22 jcamins sekjal: have you used Fedora Commons at all? 13:20 sekjal yeah, it's be nice to to refetch info we already have 13:19 jcamins Though that doesn't reduce the number of times we process the record. 13:19 jcamins Ah, good point. 13:19 cait :) 13:19 cait or that 13:19 sekjal if we give biblionumber, it'd be simple enough to fetch the ISBN 13:19 cait but we could give both numbers to the plugin maybe? 13:18 cait hm 13:17 jcamins biblionumber for local cover images. 13:17 sekjal hmmm... what other keys are used? 13:16 jcamins Except that some of the cover code doesn't use ISBN. 13:16 jcamins That seems like an excellent idea. 13:16 sekjal and the logic would then be centralized 13:15 sekjal [% normalised_isbn | $KohaCoverImages %] would be all we need to call 13:15 sekjal idea: what about moving all our cover image code into a T:T filter? 13:05 sekjal but yes, setting up my test install was what caused me to find this 13:05 cait we support that urge 13:05 cait :) 13:05 sekjal and had a few hours free 13:05 sekjal jcamins: had the urge to hack on Koha a bit 13:04 jcamins sekjal: setting up your home library? 12:58 sekjal okay, just needed to scope the usage of GetBranchName 12:56 sekjal working on a fix... 12:56 cait teaches us things about denesting 12:56 cait yeah... 12:55 jcamins sekjal: that's unfortunate. 12:55 sekjal hmmm, looks like the de-nesting of C4/Items has broken bulkmarcimport 12:55 cait morning sekjal 12:54 sekjal morning, jcamins 12:54 jcamins_away Good morning, sekjal. 12:43 mbalmer that was me. 12:43 cait hm 12:39 test_marcb test 11:20 cait the documentation is accessible when it's activated, via the opac 11:20 cait http://old.diglib.org/architectures/ilsdi/ 11:19 cait sopac 11:19 cait to connect to other catalog interfaces 11:19 cait it's an api 11:19 cait hm 11:16 mbalmer what is the ILS-DI service, which can be activated in sysprefs? 11:16 cait it should work 11:16 cait dgl-library: I think i would try it out then 11:13 dgl-library Is there anyone who knows the answer to that for sure, because I'm about 1/3 of the way through this process… maybe I should just go back and fill in all the OPAC display values. The thing is that the sample data had all the OPAC display values blank. 10:59 dgl-library hmm. 10:47 cait normally I put the same in both 10:47 cait have never tested it 10:47 cait I think so 10:47 cait hm 10:47 dgl-library Question - When there are 2 fields in Koha, "Description" and "Description (OPAC)", if I leave the OPAC description field blank, the OPAC will show what I have in the "Description" field and not be blank, right? 10:23 dgl-library ok 10:18 cait yes 10:18 dgl-library well, the 099 field is there, but it's normally set up differently by default. so I have to go in and set it up for Books, then set it up again for Fast Add, etc.? 10:16 cait if it's nto there yet - yes 10:16 dgl-library cait: do I have to go through and manually configure that MARC 099 field for every single MARC framework separately? 10:01 dgl-library cait: thanks for that suggestion. 10:00 cait it will not hurt 10:00 cait or you will get to know about someone planning a development for this 10:00 cait perhaps it will help you find someone who is interested 10:00 cait is file an enh request in bugzilla 10:00 cait dgl-library: what you could do 09:59 dgl-library but I will start by changing that to 099 — thanks for the tip on that 09:59 dgl-library I was kind of hoping there would be a way for koha to use our call heading + grab a few bits automatically (first 3 letters of author's name, first 3 letters of title) to make the full call number and/or the bit that gets printed on the spine label. 09:58 cait it's to make your life easier - not sure it will cover all you want to do 09:58 dgl-library right 09:58 cait when you catalog 09:58 cait into the item 09:58 cait it will pull down the value from 099a or b or whatever 09:58 dgl-library so I'd change that to 099 and then koha will use that as the callnumber, right? and if there were subfields (first 3 letters of author's name, first 3 letters of title) it would be 099ab? 09:57 dgl-library Map the MARC subfield 082ab to an item's callnumber. 09:56 dgl-library itemcallnumber 09:56 cait hm no, I think it will work 09:56 dgl-library oh? let me have a look 09:56 cait you can put in the 099 as the value for callnumbers 09:56 dgl-library cait: am I going about it in an unusual way? or maybe it's just unusual to use a non-standard classification system.. 09:56 cait check for the systempreferneces related to callnumbers and classifications 09:55 cait dgl-library: that sounds like it could work :) 09:55 dgl-library maybe I'm confusing the terms "callnumber" and "heading" or "classification" (sorry… not a librarian, just a volunteer) 09:54 dgl-library hmm. but I was going to put our callnumber heading in the MARC 099 field ("LOCAL FREE-TEXT CALL NUMBER (OCLC)") and make all our headings available via a pulldown which I would populate via authorized values. won't that do it? 09:53 cait and if you catlaog your callnumber in the record, it can suggest that in the item 09:52 cait so if you pull records from loc it could suggest the ddc number 09:52 cait it can suggest a callnumber from a field in the bibliographic record 09:52 cait but that would need development too :( 09:52 cait I think what you want to do... could perhaps done via a cataloging plugin 09:51 cait it's not made to do that i fear 09:51 cait no 09:51 dgl-library cait: yes, I'm afraid I don't quite understand, or perhaps I wasn't saying it right. Let's say we have a section called BB, in which there are headings BB1000, BB2000 and BB3000. Can I select those via the classification system? 09:48 cait the classification system helps with sorting 09:48 cait koha will not take care of your callnumbers 09:48 cait perhaps there is a misunderstanding 09:48 cait hm 09:48 dgl-library cait: you mean I will select it as the numbering system, and it will automatically present me with the pull-down menu? or do you mean the system will choose the right call number? 09:45 cait so you will not have to select it 09:45 cait when you use the system preference :) 09:45 cait but your classification will be preselected 09:45 cait you will still be able to select another 09:44 dgl-library cait: thanks. and then I will be able to add the classification to each record manually using a pull-down menu, right? 09:44 cait dgl-library: and there is a system preference to make it the default in newly created records - perhaps search for class... it should show up 09:44 cait unless you can figure out something better 09:44 dgl-library mbalmer: ha ha! you have a big advantage. I am neither a programmer nor a librarian. 09:44 cait dgl-library: I would add your system and add generic filing rule to it 09:44 cait dgl-library: yes 09:43 mbalmer I have the reversed problem, I am a programmer, but I have only very limited librarian's knowledge... 09:43 dgl-library Another question: We are using our own private classification system, not Dewey Decimal or any other established system. Do I add our classifications in Home > Administration > Authorized Values? And then there I would make a category called DGL Classification System, and then each heading and description? Or does it go somewhere else? 09:42 dgl-library it's a good idea for us to consider later on. right now I'm still trying to set up koha. 09:41 mbalmer maybe you find one, a student or so? 09:41 dgl-library mbalmer: I would love to, but I can barely get through the install — I'm not a programmer. 09:40 wahanui okay, mbalmer. 09:40 mbalmer you are also free to add the features you need.. just saying.. 09:39 dgl-library drojf: we're on a really small budget, so I don't think we'd be the right people to fund that effort. one of the reasons we're using koha is because it's basically free. 09:38 dgl-library mbalmer: anyway we're near Dharamsala 09:38 mbalmer in Switzerland 09:38 dgl-library mbalmer: where are you? 09:38 drojf i see 09:37 dgl-library drojf: there are very few actual lending libraries in India, maybe because loss is such a problem (or trust is such a problem) 09:37 dgl-library near Palampur 09:37 drojf is it common in india? there are quite some libreries there using koha i think, so maybe you can share the development costs 09:36 mbalmer Dharamshala, Candor? 09:36 dgl-library and our library isn't a public library, it's basically a school library — but people from the community can borrow if they leave a deposit for each item 09:35 dgl-library India 09:34 drojf me neither. where are you located dgl-library? 09:33 cait it's a practice that I have not heard of yet 09:33 cait dgl-library: where are you located? 09:33 dgl-library cait: thanks for the info. wish I were a programmer — I'd add that. for a small library like ours, refundable deposit fees are a must. too bad we'll have to keep a written list instead. 09:27 cait dgl-library: and they are not supposed to be given back - Ithink what you want to do woul dneed some development 09:25 cait dgl-library: you can only do rental charges 09:25 cait dgl-library: sorry, currently not 09:24 drojf mbalmer: that does not sound too bad :D 09:24 mbalmer you could run our germany branch, drojf 09:24 dgl-library Anyone — is there a way in Koha to charge a refundable deposit per item? Not a rental charge, but a fixed deposit fee? I'm hoping Koha will keep track of the deposit and remind the librarian to give it back at check-in time. 09:24 drojf mbalmer: not if i start a business! lol 09:24 cait mbalmer: we have more academic/special libraries 09:23 drojf maybe i get bored and start a koha business too ;) 09:23 mbalmer and then we expand to germany.. 09:23 mbalmer or, in one word: world domination (ok, two words) 09:23 cait drojf: heh, sorry, I am mean 09:23 drojf lol that is not what i meant :P 09:23 mbalmer we are after the public libraries, community libraries etc. 09:23 dgl-library Hi #koha 09:22 drojf cait: one day we could take over my university library together 09:22 cait drojf: what, you don't like talking to me? :P 09:22 mbalmer aren't you after the university libraries and such? 09:22 drojf cait: you have a monopoly right now. nothing against what you do, but i would love to see more independent koha libraries too. would have the effect of spreading it further and more people to talk to ;) 09:22 cait mbalmer: I was not serious, I think it's good :) 09:22 mbalmer and even if we do, that would be fine for me. 09:21 mbalmer cait, no we are not competitors, as I understand it. We don't have the same clients in mind, iirc. 09:21 cait andhopefully finding more :) 09:20 cait well, we will have 9 productive installations soon this year I hope 09:20 mbalmer he wrote a tex system to set gregorian chants, he must be quite a freak (in the most positive sense) 09:20 cait competitors whereever I look ;) 09:20 cait and he also answers mails on the german mailing list sometimes 09:20 drojf that sounds good actually. i hope to get some institutions like ours to use koha. i work in a language center at a university, they are usually independent of the university libraries and have some selfmade databases, paper books or no systems at all :D 09:20 cait I had some mail contact with him a longer time ago 09:20 cait mbalmer: no, but he answers mails 09:19 cait back :) 09:19 mbalmer does beda show up in this channel from time to time? 09:18 mbalmer so It's about finding the first customer, then more will come quite automatically. 09:18 mbalmer Just no one wants to be the first to use Koha, they all fear being the pioneers. But they are impressed. 09:17 mbalmer no, that concept actually *TOTALLY* convinces all people we talk to. They are totally supportive of it. 09:16 drojf koha is not very widespread in germany either, i guess it takes time. the concept of "free and open source software" seems to be something very strange for people here 09:14 drojf one day they all will ;) 09:14 mbalmer I have one large and several smaller libraries as customers, but they don't use Koha (yet ;) 09:13 mbalmer I think some uni bib in .ch uses it. 09:13 mbalmer well, we have three koha instances running now, two for development (using git), one for demonstration (using packages) and no customer yet. 09:12 mbalmer me groks anyways words from drojf ;) 09:11 drojf me fail english this morning 09:11 drojf how many 09:11 drojf heh 09:11 cait have to make aunty phone calls 09:11 drojf how much koha libraries are there in switzerland? 09:11 cait sorry, brb 09:10 mbalmer I think at the moment a swiss version would make little sense. 09:10 drojf german 09:10 drojf nope 09:09 mbalmer drojf, you're swiss? 09:09 * drojf would like to see koha schwyzerdütsch 09:09 mbalmer cait, for the moment de-DE is ok. Maybe one day we need de-CH if a customer requests it. There are some differences, like we don't have the ess-zett 09:08 mbalmer now I found him 09:08 mbalmer yes, I should eventually add mine, too 09:08 cait we should do that! 09:08 cait oh yes 09:08 drojf guess i should get my name in there too one day ^^ 09:08 cait for translators 09:07 cait no, but on the about 09:07 cait mbalmer: de-DE ok for you or do you need a swiss german version? :) 09:07 mbalmer I don't find a Beda in the Koha development team list 09:07 cait I did some work on suggestions yesterday 09:07 cait and lots of typos still to find and correct 09:06 cait like a missing script to create a po file for the xml plugins in cataloging 09:06 cait I think at the moment the only things missing is due to translations problems 09:06 mbalmer anf fix all missing translation 09:06 cait he is a monk and a teacher I think 09:06 mbalmer We should do a translation hackathon one day.. 09:06 cait there is the full name 09:05 cait check the about page of koha 09:05 cait yes 09:05 cait drojf: I think only the xslt 09:05 mbalmer oh, we have more users in switzerland? 09:05 mbalmer congrats, cait! 09:05 cait there is beda from switzerland, drojf, my coworkers, me 09:05 drojf congratulations :) 09:04 cait mbalmer: it's a general name, not really a team 09:04 cait sorry - just got a phone call - I am an aunt again! 09:04 mbalmer who is the german language translation team? cait? 09:01 drojf does koha use the ldr 06 (type of record) entry for anything besides what i can see in the xsl file? 08:47 cait I don't know, we never tried 08:44 mbalmer I wonder how much speed improvement running the database on a separate server would bring 08:42 cait kia ora 08:42 mbalmer koharning! 08:24 drojf hi cait :) 08:23 cait hi drojf :) 08:22 drojf good day #koha 07:59 cait heh, it isn't working yet :) 07:59 sturmtruppen chocolate..., i'll remember! 07:59 sturmtruppen thanks for your help! 07:58 sturmtruppen i have to run to the swimmingpool! 07:58 sturmtruppen i'll try when i'm back. 07:56 cait and restart the zebreasrv 07:56 cait perhaps change for the whole koha folder 07:54 sturmtruppen [fatal] Zebra server already running [Resource temporarily unavailable] 07:54 sturmtruppen i changed 07:53 sturmtruppen the user has no permission on this file 07:52 cait have you checked the permissions on this file? 07:52 sturmtruppen the file exist 07:52 cait from git perhaps, but a standard one :) 07:52 cait I mean you did a standard install 07:51 cait from the path 07:51 cait it's still the standard install 07:51 sturmtruppen yep, i see but i don't understand how to solve... 07:51 cait oh 07:51 cait have you checked for that file? 07:51 cait but it is a permission problem 07:51 cait hmm 07:50 sturmtruppen but i have still problem 07:50 sturmtruppen koha user and zebra user are the same 07:49 sturmtruppen nope, both case. 07:48 sturmtruppen i'll try 07:46 cait perhaps using sudo 07:46 cait something like that 07:46 cait chown -R user:group koha-dev/... 07:46 cait I think 07:45 cait ... still a linux newb 07:45 cait now you got me, always have to look these things up :) 07:45 cait oh 07:45 cait hm? 07:45 sturmtruppen how can i change thw owner? 07:44 sturmtruppen my fault. 07:44 sturmtruppen nope 07:44 cait you did the dev install using git? 07:43 cait should own the files of zebra too 07:43 cait the owner of your koha files 07:43 cait just what it says 07:43 cait permissions 07:41 sturmtruppen that's my last error... 07:41 sturmtruppen [fatal] lock file /var/lock/koha/zebradb/biblios/zebrasrv.pid [Permission denied] 07:41 sturmtruppen morning #koha 06:59 cait good morning #koha 06:07 dgl-library hi, can I ask a question about the *optional data* in the web install?