Time Nick Message
06:07 dgl-library hi, can I ask a question about the *optional data* in the web install?
06:59 cait good morning #koha
07:41 sturmtruppen morning #koha
07:41 sturmtruppen [fatal] lock file /var/lock/koha/zebradb/biblios/zebrasrv.pid [Permission denied]
07:41 sturmtruppen that's my last error...
07:43 cait permissions
07:43 cait just what it says
07:43 cait the owner of your koha files
07:43 cait should own the files of zebra too
07:44 cait you did the dev install using git?
07:44 sturmtruppen nope
07:44 sturmtruppen my fault.
07:45 sturmtruppen how can i change thw owner?
07:45 cait hm?
07:45 cait oh
07:45 cait now you got me, always have to look these things up :)
07:45 cait ... still a linux newb
07:46 cait I think
07:46 cait chown -R user:group koha-dev/...
07:46 cait something like that
07:46 cait perhaps using sudo
07:48 sturmtruppen i'll try
07:49 sturmtruppen nope, both case.
07:50 sturmtruppen koha user and zebra user are the same
07:50 sturmtruppen but i have still problem
07:51 cait hmm
07:51 cait but it is a permission problem
07:51 cait have you checked for that file?
07:51 cait oh
07:51 sturmtruppen yep, i see but i don't understand how to solve...
07:51 cait it's still the standard install
07:51 cait from the path
07:52 cait I mean you did a standard install
07:52 cait from git perhaps, but a standard one :)
07:52 sturmtruppen the file exist
07:52 cait have you checked the permissions on this file?
07:53 sturmtruppen the user has no permission on this file
07:54 sturmtruppen i changed
07:54 sturmtruppen [fatal] Zebra server already running [Resource temporarily unavailable]
07:56 cait perhaps change for the whole koha folder
07:56 cait and restart the zebreasrv
07:58 sturmtruppen i'll try when i'm back.
07:58 sturmtruppen i have to run to the swimmingpool!
07:59 sturmtruppen thanks for your help!
07:59 sturmtruppen chocolate..., i'll remember!
07:59 cait heh, it isn't working yet :)
08:22 drojf good day #koha
08:23 cait hi drojf :)
08:24 drojf hi cait :)
08:42 mbalmer koharning!
08:42 cait kia ora
08:44 mbalmer I wonder how much speed improvement running the database on a separate server would bring
08:47 cait I don't know, we never tried
09:01 drojf does koha use the ldr 06 (type of record) entry for anything besides what i can see in the xsl file?
09:04 mbalmer who is the german language translation team? cait?
09:04 cait sorry - just got a phone call - I am an aunt again!
09:04 cait mbalmer: it's a general name, not really a team
09:05 drojf congratulations :)
09:05 cait there is beda from switzerland, drojf, my coworkers, me
09:05 mbalmer congrats, cait!
09:05 mbalmer oh, we have more users in switzerland?
09:05 cait drojf: I think only the xslt
09:05 cait yes
09:05 cait check the about page of koha
09:06 cait there is the full name
09:06 mbalmer We should do a translation hackathon one day..
09:06 cait he is a monk and a teacher I think
09:06 mbalmer anf fix all missing translation
09:06 cait I think at the moment the only things missing is due to translations problems
09:06 cait like a missing script to create a po file for the xml plugins in cataloging
09:07 cait and lots of typos still to find and correct
09:07 cait I did some work on suggestions yesterday
09:07 mbalmer I don't find a Beda in the Koha development team list
09:07 cait mbalmer: de-DE ok for you or do you need a swiss german version? :)
09:07 cait no, but on the about
09:08 cait for translators
09:08 drojf guess i should get my name in there too one day ^^
09:08 cait oh yes
09:08 cait we should do that!
09:08 mbalmer yes, I should eventually add mine, too
09:08 mbalmer now I found him
09:09 mbalmer cait, for the moment de-DE is ok. Maybe one day we need de-CH if a customer requests it. There are some differences, like we don't have the ess-zett
09:09 * drojf would like to see koha schwyzerdütsch
09:09 mbalmer drojf, you're swiss?
09:10 drojf nope
09:10 drojf german
09:10 mbalmer I think at the moment a swiss version would make little sense.
09:11 cait sorry, brb
09:11 drojf how much koha libraries are there in switzerland?
09:11 cait have to make aunty phone calls
09:11 drojf heh
09:11 drojf how many
09:11 drojf me fail english this morning
09:12 mbalmer me groks anyways words from drojf ;)
09:13 mbalmer well, we have three koha instances running now, two for development (using git), one for demonstration (using packages) and no customer yet.
09:13 mbalmer I think some uni bib in .ch uses it.
09:14 mbalmer I have one large and several smaller libraries as customers, but they don't use Koha (yet ;)
09:14 drojf one day they all will ;)
09:16 drojf koha is not very widespread in germany either, i guess it takes time. the concept of "free and open source software" seems to be something very strange for people here
09:17 mbalmer no, that concept actually *TOTALLY* convinces all people we talk to. They are totally supportive of it.
09:18 mbalmer Just no one wants to be the first to use Koha, they all fear being the pioneers. But they are impressed.
09:18 mbalmer so It's about finding the first customer, then more will come quite automatically.
09:19 mbalmer does beda show up in this channel from time to time?
09:19 cait back :)
09:20 cait mbalmer: no, but he answers mails
09:20 cait I had some mail contact with him a longer time ago
09:20 drojf that sounds good actually. i hope to get some institutions like ours to use koha. i work in a language center at a university, they are usually independent of the university libraries and have some selfmade databases, paper books or no systems at all :D
09:20 cait and he also answers mails on the german mailing list sometimes
09:20 cait competitors whereever I look ;)
09:20 mbalmer he wrote a tex system to set gregorian chants, he must be quite a freak (in the most positive sense)
09:20 cait well, we will have 9 productive installations soon this year I hope
09:21 cait andhopefully finding more :)
09:21 mbalmer cait, no we are not competitors, as I understand it. We don't have the same clients in mind, iirc.
09:22 mbalmer and even if we do, that would be fine for me.
09:22 cait mbalmer: I was not serious, I think it's good :)
09:22 drojf cait: you have a monopoly right now. nothing against what you do, but i would love to see more independent koha libraries too. would have the effect of spreading it further and more people to talk to ;)
09:22 mbalmer aren't you after the university libraries and such?
09:22 cait drojf: what, you don't like talking to me? :P
09:22 drojf cait: one day we could take over my university library together
09:23 dgl-library Hi #koha
09:23 mbalmer we are after the public libraries, community libraries etc.
09:23 drojf lol that is not what i meant :P
09:23 cait drojf: heh, sorry, I am mean
09:23 mbalmer or, in one word: world domination (ok, two words)
09:23 mbalmer and then we expand to germany..
09:23 drojf maybe i get bored and start a koha business too ;)
09:24 cait mbalmer: we have more academic/special libraries
09:24 drojf mbalmer: not if i start a business! lol
09:24 dgl-library Anyone — is there a way in Koha to charge a refundable deposit per item? Not a rental charge, but a fixed deposit fee? I'm hoping Koha will keep track of the deposit and remind the librarian to give it back at check-in time.
09:24 mbalmer you could run our germany branch, drojf
09:24 drojf mbalmer: that does not sound too bad :D
09:25 cait dgl-library: sorry, currently not
09:25 cait dgl-library: you can only do rental charges
09:27 cait dgl-library: and they are not supposed to be given back - Ithink what you want to do woul dneed some development
09:33 dgl-library cait: thanks for the info. wish I were a programmer — I'd add that. for a small library like ours, refundable deposit fees are a must. too bad we'll have to keep a written list instead.
09:33 cait dgl-library: where are you located?
09:33 cait it's a practice that I have not heard of yet
09:34 drojf me neither. where are you located dgl-library?
09:35 dgl-library India
09:36 dgl-library and our library isn't a public library, it's basically a school library — but people from the community can borrow if they leave a deposit for each item
09:36 mbalmer Dharamshala, Candor?
09:37 drojf is it common in india? there are quite some libreries there using koha i think, so maybe you can share the development costs
09:37 dgl-library near Palampur
09:37 dgl-library drojf: there are very few actual lending libraries in India, maybe because loss is such a problem (or trust is such a problem)
09:38 drojf i see
09:38 dgl-library mbalmer: where are you?
09:38 mbalmer in Switzerland
09:38 dgl-library mbalmer: anyway we're near Dharamsala
09:39 dgl-library drojf: we're on a really small budget, so I don't think we'd be the right people to fund that effort. one of the reasons we're using koha is because it's basically free.
09:40 mbalmer you are also free to add the features you need.. just saying..
09:40 wahanui okay, mbalmer.
09:41 dgl-library mbalmer: I would love to, but I can barely get through the install — I'm not a programmer.
09:41 mbalmer maybe you find one, a student or so?
09:42 dgl-library it's a good idea for us to consider later on. right now I'm still trying to set up koha.
09:43 dgl-library Another question: We are using our own private classification system, not Dewey Decimal or any other established system. Do I add our classifications in Home > Administration > Authorized Values? And then there I would make a category called DGL Classification System, and then each heading and description? Or does it go somewhere else?
09:43 mbalmer I have the reversed problem, I am a programmer, but I have only very limited librarian's knowledge...
09:44 cait dgl-library: yes
09:44 cait dgl-library: I would add your system and add generic filing rule to it
09:44 dgl-library mbalmer: ha ha! you have a big advantage. I am neither a programmer nor a librarian.
09:44 cait unless you can figure out something better
09:44 cait dgl-library: and there is a system preference to make it the default in newly created records - perhaps search for class... it should show up
09:44 dgl-library cait: thanks. and then I will be able to add the classification to each record manually using a pull-down menu, right?
09:45 cait you will still be able to select another
09:45 cait but your classification will be preselected
09:45 cait when you use the system preference :)
09:45 cait so you will not have to select it
09:48 dgl-library cait: you mean I will select it as the numbering system, and it will automatically present me with the pull-down menu? or do you mean the system will choose the right call number?
09:48 cait hm
09:48 cait perhaps there is a misunderstanding
09:48 cait koha will not take care of your callnumbers
09:48 cait the classification system helps with sorting
09:51 dgl-library cait: yes, I'm afraid I don't quite understand, or perhaps I wasn't saying it right. Let's say we have a section called BB, in which there are headings BB1000, BB2000 and BB3000. Can I select those via the classification system?
09:51 cait no
09:51 cait it's not made to do that i fear
09:52 cait I think what you want to do... could perhaps done via a cataloging plugin
09:52 cait but that would need development too :(
09:52 cait it can suggest a callnumber from a field in the bibliographic record
09:52 cait so if you pull records from loc it could suggest the ddc number
09:53 cait and if you catlaog your callnumber in the record, it can suggest that in the item
09:54 dgl-library hmm. but I was going to put our callnumber heading in the MARC 099 field ("LOCAL FREE-TEXT CALL NUMBER (OCLC)") and make all our headings available via a pulldown which I would populate via authorized values. won't that do it?
09:55 dgl-library maybe I'm confusing the terms "callnumber" and "heading" or "classification" (sorry… not a librarian, just a volunteer)
09:55 cait dgl-library: that sounds like it could work :)
09:56 cait check for the systempreferneces related to callnumbers and classifications
09:56 dgl-library cait: am I going about it in an unusual way? or maybe it's just unusual to use a non-standard classification system..
09:56 cait you can put in the 099 as the value for callnumbers
09:56 dgl-library oh? let me have a look
09:56 cait hm no, I think it will work
09:56 dgl-library itemcallnumber
09:57 dgl-library Map the MARC subfield 082ab to an item's callnumber.
09:58 dgl-library so I'd change that to 099 and then koha will use that as the callnumber, right? and if there were subfields (first 3 letters of author's name, first 3 letters of title) it would be 099ab?
09:58 cait it will pull down the value from 099a or b or whatever
09:58 cait into the item
09:58 cait when you catalog
09:58 dgl-library right
09:58 cait it's to make your life easier - not sure it will cover all you want to do
09:59 dgl-library I was kind of hoping there would be a way for koha to use our call heading + grab a few bits automatically (first 3 letters of author's name, first 3 letters of title) to make the full call number and/or the bit that gets printed on the spine label.
09:59 dgl-library but I will start by changing that to 099 — thanks for the tip on that
10:00 cait dgl-library: what you could do
10:00 cait is file an enh request in bugzilla
10:00 cait perhaps it will help you find someone who is interested
10:00 cait or you will get to know about someone planning a development for this
10:00 cait it will not hurt
10:01 dgl-library cait: thanks for that suggestion.
10:16 dgl-library cait: do I have to go through and manually configure that MARC 099 field for every single MARC framework separately?
10:16 cait if it's nto there yet - yes
10:18 dgl-library well, the 099 field is there, but it's normally set up differently by default. so I have to go in and set it up for Books, then set it up again for Fast Add, etc.?
10:18 cait yes
10:23 dgl-library ok
10:47 dgl-library Question - When there are 2 fields in Koha, "Description" and "Description (OPAC)", if I leave the OPAC description field blank, the OPAC will show what I have in the "Description" field and not be blank, right?
10:47 cait hm
10:47 cait I think so
10:47 cait have never tested it
10:47 cait normally I put the same in both
10:59 dgl-library hmm.
11:13 dgl-library Is there anyone who knows the answer to that for sure, because I'm about 1/3 of the way through this process… maybe I should just go back and fill in all the OPAC display values. The thing is that the sample data had all the OPAC display values blank.
11:16 cait dgl-library: I think i would try it out then
11:16 cait it should work
11:16 mbalmer what is the ILS-DI service, which can be activated in sysprefs?
11:19 cait hm
11:19 cait it's an api
11:19 cait to connect to other catalog interfaces
11:19 cait sopac
11:20 cait http://old.diglib.org/architectures/ilsdi/
11:20 cait the documentation is accessible when it's activated, via the opac
12:39 test_marcb test
12:43 cait hm
12:43 mbalmer that was me.
12:54 jcamins_away Good morning, sekjal.
12:54 sekjal morning, jcamins
12:55 cait morning sekjal
12:55 sekjal hmmm, looks like the de-nesting of C4/Items has broken bulkmarcimport
12:55 jcamins sekjal: that's unfortunate.
12:56 cait yeah...
12:56 cait teaches us things about denesting
12:56 sekjal working on a fix...
12:58 sekjal okay, just needed to scope the usage of GetBranchName
13:04 jcamins sekjal: setting up your home library?
13:05 sekjal jcamins: had the urge to hack on Koha a bit
13:05 sekjal and had a few hours free
13:05 cait :)
13:05 cait we support that urge
13:05 sekjal but yes, setting up my test install was what caused me to find this
13:15 sekjal idea: what about moving all our cover image code into a T:T filter?
13:15 sekjal [% normalised_isbn | $KohaCoverImages %] would be all we need to call
13:16 sekjal and the logic would then be centralized
13:16 jcamins That seems like an excellent idea.
13:16 jcamins Except that some of the cover code doesn't use ISBN.
13:17 sekjal hmmm... what other keys are used?
13:17 jcamins biblionumber for local cover images.
13:18 cait hm
13:19 cait but we could give both numbers to the plugin maybe?
13:19 sekjal if we give biblionumber, it'd be simple enough to fetch the ISBN
13:19 cait or that
13:19 cait :)
13:19 jcamins Ah, good point.
13:19 jcamins Though that doesn't reduce the number of times we process the record.
13:20 sekjal yeah, it's be nice to to refetch info we already have
13:22 jcamins sekjal: have you used Fedora Commons at all?
13:23 sekjal jcamins: no
13:29 jcamins sekjal: how did you get that error?
13:29 sekjal jcamins: bulkmarcimport.pl -b -file path/to/file.mrc
13:31 jcamins sekjal: hm. Must be a result of 7001 or 7408, because that works for me.
13:31 jcamins Nope.
13:32 jcamins Hm.
13:33 jcamins Oh, I know. I bet this record doesn't have any items.
13:35 jcamins Yeah, that was it.
13:36 cait hm?
13:36 jcamins No items.
13:37 sekjal damn. the patch I wanted to work on was on my (now stolen) laptop only.... I have to reimplement from scratch
13:37 cait eew
13:37 cait stolen laptop? that's evil
13:37 sekjal it was my "welcome to the new job" gift... first day
13:42 jcamins Oops.
13:42 * jcamins forgot that he automated the whole upload process.
14:09 sekjal anyone want to test my patch for bug 5698?
14:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5698 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Provide datepicker for sql reports runtime parameters
14:10 jcamins Once I've finished rebasing bug 7284 on 3.6.x I'll go back to signing off.
14:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements
14:11 cait :)
14:11 cait I can try later - only have to buy some food first
14:13 sekjal okay, I've accomplished *something*. time to get cleaned up and ready to face the day
14:13 sekjal later, #koha!
15:03 jcamins git qa & git so are pretty awesome.
15:05 jcamins Well, very awesome.
15:25 cait oh
15:25 cait what is it?
15:25 * cait wants part of the awesomeness :)
15:25 jcamins git?
15:25 wahanui git is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git
15:26 jcamins ^^ at the end there's a link to the tips and tricks page.
15:28 cait hmm
15:28 cait will I remember the password on the old laptop?
15:28 jcamins I don't know.
15:28 cait yep
15:32 jcamins Yay!
15:45 jcamins Hey, you know what would be fun?
15:45 jcamins Signing off on bug 7587.
15:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7587 critical, P1 - high, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Wrong table name for local cover images
15:45 jcamins Alas, I can't do that...
15:45 jcamins Hey! I know!
15:45 jcamins cait: you can! :D
15:45 cait hhe
15:45 cait yes
15:45 cait I will
15:45 cait give me a little more time
15:45 cait setting up my work desk
15:48 jcamins :)
17:23 jcamins bug 6932
17:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6932 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Needs Signoff , Javascript errors in irregular pattern check update
17:25 cait can you translate that?
17:25 jcamins Translate what?
17:26 jcamins ie--
17:29 cait what it means :)
17:29 jcamins Ah.
17:29 jcamins I don't think I can.
17:29 jcamins I don't think I can figure out what it's supposed to do. ;)
17:31 cait oh
17:33 cait grr
17:48 rangi grr?
17:48 cait I was annoyed at mysql
17:49 cait good morning :)
17:50 rangi morning
17:50 jcamins Morning.
17:50 wahanui rumour has it morning is a state of mind
17:51 cait heh
18:11 rangi @wunder nzwn
18:11 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0°C (7:00 AM NZDT on March 11, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
18:11 cait @wunder Konstanz
18:11 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 8.0°C (7:00 PM CET on March 10, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 26%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Pressure: 30.55 in 1034 hPa (Falling).
18:23 jcamins Oh! rangi, since you're here, any idea how to create an SSL client certificate?
18:23 jcamins Also, do we have instructions for enabling SSL for Koha?
18:25 rangi nope and no :)
18:26 * jcamins will ask eythian if he is around next time a sign-off spree comes around. :)
18:29 rangi yeah he's the one to ask
18:30 jcamins Does anyone happen to recall where paul_p put his sample UNIMARC database?
18:31 cait hmm
18:31 cait in the sandbox
18:31 cait I haven#t seen it as a file somewhere
18:31 jcamins Right, but there's a git repo with the SQL dump, somewhere.
18:31 cait perhaps there is a note on the sandbox page?
18:31 jcamins sandboxes?
18:31 jcamins sandbox?
18:31 cait sorry, haven't seen it
18:32 jcamins Good thought. I'll check.
18:32 * jcamins was checking if wahanui knew.
18:32 jcamins sandboxes are http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sandboxes
18:37 jcamins Found one.
18:37 jcamins UNIMARC sample database is at http://git.biblibre.com/?p=data;a=tree;f=sql/unimarc
18:38 cait :)
18:41 jcamins I will try to sign off on bug 3216 in a little while.
18:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3216 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, frederic, Needs Signoff , UNIMARC author facets
18:41 jcamins Right now I'm signing off on bug 7697.
18:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7697 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, Needs Signoff , Clean up borrower.textmessaging leftover code
18:42 jcamins Seriously, anyone who doesn't have git qa and git so is doing *way* too much work.
19:10 cait jcamins++
19:26 mbalmer I wonder if Koha can work with 2D barcodes (1-2 KB of data)
19:28 jcamins mbalmer: it could, if you changed the maximum size of the barcode field.
19:28 mbalmer in the db, that is? or in the webform?
19:28 jcamins Both.
19:29 mbalmer I C
19:29 jcamins And you'd need to think very seriously about whether it was necessary, because I'm pretty sure that indexing 1-2KB strings is going to be slow no matter what.
19:29 mbalmer not with a real database
19:30 jcamins mbalmer: you're telling me that there's no impact on performance in postgres if you increase the size of an index by...
19:31 mbalmer no no, I am not yet telling anything ;)
19:31 jcamins three orders of magnitude.
19:32 mbalmer but I kind of like your assocation of "a real database" with PostgreSQL.
19:32 jcamins Well, given your frequent insistence that postgres is the only legitimate database, what other database would I assume you were talking about?
19:33 mbalmer oh oh, I did not use that wording, I assume...
19:33 jcamins Something along those lines.
19:34 * cait nods
19:35 mbalmer There are good reasons to favour PostgreSQL over other databases, indeed. But making Koha run on PostgreSQL needs work, I would estimate one year until it happens.
19:49 * jcamins waves to wizzyrea
19:49 * wizzyrea waves
19:49 cait hi wizzyrea :)
19:49 wizzyrea hi cait :)
20:34 * jcamins waves to wizzyrea again.
20:34 wizzyrea heya
20:35 cait wb :)
20:47 wizzyrea cait, what was that fennel salad you were telling me about
20:47 * wizzyrea wants to try it
20:50 mbalmer fennel salad? omg..
20:51 cait um
20:51 cait fennel, olive oil, chilli, brown sugar, salt, mango?
20:51 cait :)
20:51 cait mango goes in last
20:51 cait fennel cut into thin slices + spices
20:52 cait then knead (?) and small mango / other fruit / nothing last
20:52 cait wizzyrea: still here? :)
20:52 wizzyrea yepper
20:53 * wizzyrea drools a bit
20:53 wizzyrea ty :)
20:53 cait mbalmer: was that positive or negative?
20:53 * wizzyrea likes fennel
20:53 * cait too :)
20:54 mbalmer I won't tell ;)
20:54 * cait will try to find fennel for you in marseille and find out
20:54 mbalmer he he ;)
20:55 jcamins Okay... why doesn't this work?
20:55 cait my salad works!
20:55 jcamins Oh, because 100d isn't part of the au index.
20:55 cait hm
20:55 cait @marc 100 d
20:55 huginn cait: Dates associated with a name Dates of birth, death, or flourishing, or any other date associated with a name.
20:55 cait ah cool
20:55 cait I thought that was it
21:02 jcamins I don't think these limits are formed correctly.
21:24 jcamins Argh! git.biblibre.com is down.
21:31 jcamins Bah.
21:31 jcamins I can't sign off on bug 3216.
21:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3216 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, frederic, Needs Signoff , UNIMARC author facets
21:34 jcamins It doesn't make any change for MARC21, and I can't get BibLibre's UNIMARC data.
21:38 cait :(
21:38 cait so te link didn't work?
21:38 cait oh
21:38 cait i see
21:39 jcamins It might have earlier, but first I was testing MARC21.
21:45 jcamins bug 7680
21:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7680 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Create a PatronDefaultView preference to control whether patron links go to circ or patron details
22:20 cait wizzyrea++
22:23 cait wizzyrea?
22:23 wahanui I LIKE SCIENCE
23:26 bag @wunder 93109
23:26 huginn bag: The current temperature in K6LCM-Westside/Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 17.4°C (3:26 PM PST on March 10, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012.4 hPa (Steady).
23:27 bag hmm.. feels hotter than that - ahh must be the solar flares
23:27 cait @wunder Konstanz
23:27 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 0.4°C (12:24 AM CET on March 11, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.55 in 1034.4 hPa (Falling).
23:27 cait @wunder marseille
23:28 huginn cait: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 4.0°C (12:00 AM CET on March 11, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady).