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wizzyrea |
does anyone else find adding baskets in acquisitions kind of... awkward? |
| 01:00 |
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wizzyrea |
also, jebus this is time consuming. |
| 01:03 |
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jcamins_away |
Very. I don't use acq though. |
| 01:28 |
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wizzyrea |
how much better has my life gotten since git bz |
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wizzyrea |
let me count the ways |
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wizzyrea |
regarding bug 7001, does anyone have an opinion on that last comment (is it ok when we do not have independent brances that everyone can edit notices for all branches) |
| 03:10 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7001 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Needs Signoff , User Configurable Slips |
| 03:10 |
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rangi |
everyone who has permissions to edit notices that is? |
| 03:11 |
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rangi |
cos i think its fine, thats the current situation |
| 03:21 |
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wizzyrea |
yea, that's what I just said |
| 03:21 |
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wizzyrea |
on the bug |
| 03:22 |
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rangi |
cool :) |
| 03:23 |
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wizzyrea |
i'm sure it could come up someday |
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rangi |
yes |
| 03:23 |
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wizzyrea |
someone will have a personnel problem they don't want to deal with |
| 03:23 |
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wizzyrea |
and |
| 03:23 |
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rangi |
exactly |
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schuster |
google.com |
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rangi |
i wont fire you, ill punish the entire world instead |
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wizzyrea |
you *could* just take away their tools permissions :P |
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schuster |
oops wrong window, |
| 03:24 |
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wizzyrea |
or "edit notice" permissions |
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wizzyrea |
it does in fact go that granular, which is nice. |
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rangi |
yup |
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* wizzyrea |
forgot that |
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schuster |
so I was looking at bug 7284 |
| 03:35 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements |
| 03:35 |
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schuster |
bug 7284 |
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wahanui |
somebody said bug 7284 was the first step to making that happen. |
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Amit_Gupta |
hi bag |
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Schuster12 |
so 7284 is the bug |
| 03:45 |
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Schuster12 |
with I did git bz apply 7284 it told me bz is not a git command so i must not have something in BZ right. |
| 03:46 |
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Schuster12 |
So I have to do the "manual" process..?? |
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eythian |
you need to install it first |
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eythian |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_bz_configuration |
| 03:49 |
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eythian |
wahanui: git bz |
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wahanui |
git bz is so much fun :) or http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_bz_configuration |
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Schuster12 |
I tried that but I must have something botched up someplace |
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eythian |
presumably you haven't symlinked it to somwhere in your path. |
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Schuster12 |
I guess... I'm going to try the manual process until I have a chance to work more on the git bz stuff - one step at a time. |
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wizzyrea |
oh but the git bz stuff will make your life so much better. |
| 03:59 |
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wizzyrea |
it's totally worth the time to figure out why it's broken |
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wizzyrea |
git bz enables my laziness. |
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Schuster12 |
I just want to download and test 7284 to see how it works... but now I think I'm stuck again. I downloaded the patchs but there is installing stuff... |
| 04:09 |
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wizzyrea |
well yea |
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wizzyrea |
you'd need to update the database |
| 04:09 |
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wizzyrea |
just log in with your koha db user/pass |
| 04:10 |
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wizzyrea |
and if you can't remember it, it's in koha-conf.xml |
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Schuster12 |
well that might be it for me tonight. Tomorrow i have great hopes of committing something! |
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Schuster12 |
besides me to the nutty bin that is. |
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cait |
morning #koha |
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eythian |
hi cait |
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cait |
evening eythian |
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Amit_Gupta |
heya cait |
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cait |
hi Amit_Gupta |
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Judit1 |
if i have a child patron with a parent patron: can i set koha to send the first overdue warning to the child, and the second notice to do parent? |
| 06:21 |
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Judit1 |
the email goes to the first available meail address, no |
| 06:22 |
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eythian |
I don't think you can do that. Least, I've never heard of it. |
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Judit1 |
tha |
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Judit1 |
nks |
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Suzzane |
Hi mib-owuink |
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mib_tt23k0 |
can anyone help me with koha v3 marc_word thing. I am new to koha v3. My marc_word table seems to be corrupted, is it possible to rebuild it from other table? I googled but I only find scripts for koha v2.2 only. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Also welcome to reply me through mbsit mbs.org.my |
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mib_neg20l |
hey |
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mib_neg20l |
No items available in opac do you know my error |
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mib_neg20l |
Suzzane |
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reiveune |
hello |
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wahanui |
bonjour, reiveune |
| 07:34 |
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Suzzane |
Hi Mib |
| 07:34 |
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Suzzane |
am also a learner |
| 07:34 |
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mib_neg20l |
hi |
| 07:34 |
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Suzzane |
hopefully will be a guru then that i will lender my advisory services |
| 07:35 |
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mib_neg20l |
you custemize koha |
| 07:36 |
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mib_neg20l |
reiveune |
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wahanui |
somebody said reiveune was working for biblibre |
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Suzzane |
am customizing koha for our library use |
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magnuse |
kia ora #koha! |
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indradg |
morning #koha |
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mib_neg20l |
my problem is No items available in opac |
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mib_neg20l |
no one anwser my Qn |
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mib_neg20l |
suzzane |
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Suzzane |
ops!!! cant be of much help here |
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mib_tt23k0 |
did you check your database? |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
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wahanui |
what's up, alex_a |
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julian_m |
hi |
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Suzzane |
Hi Julian |
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paul_p |
good morning #koha |
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magnuse |
bonjour paul_p |
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paul_p |
hi magnuse. What's new ? |
| 07:55 |
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Suzzane |
Hi Paul-p |
| 07:55 |
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magnuse |
hm, not much |
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Suzzane |
i need your help |
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magnuse |
kia ora hdl! |
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paul_p |
magnuse there's something new that is undoubtfull, at least here = the day is longer and longer ! |
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paul_p |
Suzzane what's your problem ? |
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magnuse |
paul_p: here too! and 3x yay for that! |
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Suzzane |
we are trying to search in OPAC |
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Suzzane |
and error is cropping up |
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Suzzane |
let me copy paste the error |
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hdl |
hi magnuse |
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hdl |
shorter and shorter in NZ |
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Suzzane |
This is the first error when you search all libraries:: Software error: Can't call method "data" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Search.pm line 1488. The second error when you narrow the search to a specific library is still the same: Software error: Can't call method "data" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Search.pm line 148 |
| 07:58 |
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Suzzane |
Paul, what to do? |
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paul_p |
Suzzane : it's one of the trickiest error you can get... can be caused by *many* things. |
| 08:08 |
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paul_p |
one of them being that your zebra database is not synched correctly with your SQL DB |
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Suzzane |
Paul, what do i do? |
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Suzzane |
please guide me |
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Suzzane |
ok... |
| 08:09 |
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Suzzane |
is it possible to handle the error? |
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gaetan_B |
hello #koha :) |
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Suzzane |
paul, i lost you..... |
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Suzzane |
where do i tell out programmer to do? |
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Suzzane |
sorry, what do i tell him to do? |
| 08:22 |
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paul_p |
Suzzane that's where it's tricky = I have no concrete suggestion to do... |
| 08:23 |
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Suzzane |
ops!!!! |
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Suzzane |
what might have happened coz the programmer has no idea |
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kf |
hi again #koha |
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paul_p |
Suzzane did it work ? |
| 08:26 |
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kf |
morning paul_p |
| 08:26 |
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kf |
my coworkers transformed over night... I amworking now with a cowboy, a carrot, a hairy monster, a rabbit and an alien |
| 08:27 |
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paul_p |
if yes, what's the difference between now (don't work) and the time it worked ? that can be a change in your configuration, or an invalid data added |
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Suzzane |
ok.... |
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Suzzane |
let me talk to the programmer |
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hdl |
kf frightening. |
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kf |
it is |
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kf |
today is the day all Konstanz goes crazy |
| 08:29 |
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kf |
oh |
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kf |
and a knight |
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kf |
and an escapee (from jail) |
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kf |
hi francharb |
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francharb |
hi kf |
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paul_p |
kf and you, what do you look like ? |
| 08:37 |
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kf |
like myself - I kinda forgot to take care of a costume |
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kf |
I brought sweets... hopefully that will keep me safe |
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paul_p |
kf put sweets on your ears, your hairs, and become a "sweet tree" or something like that ;-) |
| 08:40 |
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paul_p |
(could work if you've a colored shirt ;-) ) |
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kf |
things formthe bakery... |
| 08:41 |
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kf |
but the idea is good |
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kf |
paul_p: red straw hat and colorful scarf now... my coworkers wouldn't let me escape :) |
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paul_p |
kf a few minuts for a functionnal question ? |
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kf |
yes |
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* magnuse |
was wondering if kf had put something strange in her breakfast... |
| 09:39 |
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kf |
magnuse: my breakfast was ok... but the others are acting strange |
| 09:40 |
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magnuse |
hm, something in the water, perhaps? ;-) |
| 09:40 |
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kf |
paul_p: what's your question? |
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paul_p |
kf it's about issuingrules. When you enter nothing for a given value in issuingrules, shouldn't it mean "set null, so the usable value will be retrieved from the more general rule". |
| 09:42 |
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kf |
no |
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paul_p |
For example, issuinglength=21, qty=7, hold = nothing is entered for BOOKS |
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paul_p |
so there is no inheritance at all ? |
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kf |
there are some inconsistencies here I am not so happy about, but no inheritance |
| 09:42 |
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kf |
there is |
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kf |
but only for rules |
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kf |
so if you have a rule for books |
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kf |
and a general rule |
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kf |
but none for dvds the general rule will work |
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kf |
if you leave it empty it will either mean unlimited or none |
| 09:43 |
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kf |
there are some inconsistencies about that (sadly) |
| 09:43 |
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kf |
but it's either none or unlimited |
| 09:43 |
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kf |
when you leave max checkouts empty = unlimited, leaving maxreserves empty = no holds |
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* kf |
adds a big brown bear to the list of her new coworkers |
| 09:46 |
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paul_p |
bad news... |
| 09:46 |
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wahanui |
bad news is that you're probably royally screwed |
| 09:47 |
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kf |
paul_p: I think inheritance for single values would make it very very very confusing |
| 09:47 |
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paul_p |
(and probably some space for an improvement that would say "if there is nothing entered, use a more generic rule". 0 NOT being "nothing" |
| 09:47 |
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kf |
no |
| 09:47 |
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kf |
I think it works correctly |
| 09:47 |
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kf |
you don't enter circulation rules every day |
| 09:47 |
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kf |
and you can configure every possilbe combination |
| 09:47 |
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kf |
adding something like that would only make it more error prone and very confusing (in my eyes) |
| 09:48 |
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kf |
what we need is an option to edit rules |
| 09:48 |
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paul_p |
that's true. But when you're a 55 branches library, with 8 itemtypes and 12 patron categories... |
| 09:48 |
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kf |
yes, the interface is crap |
| 09:48 |
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kf |
sorry, but it is |
| 09:48 |
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kf |
I do them in calc and load them with sql |
| 09:48 |
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kf |
calc > csv > some regex/search&replace > mysql |
| 09:49 |
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kf |
hm |
| 09:49 |
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kf |
perhaps a csv import option |
| 09:52 |
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kf |
paul_p: perhaps some import/export as we have now for frameworks would make things easier |
| 09:53 |
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paul_p |
you're right, but that doesn't exist yet too ;-) |
| 09:54 |
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kf |
no it doesnt :( |
| 09:54 |
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kf |
what you can do is copy rules from one branch to another |
| 09:55 |
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kf |
paul_p: and there is a bug report about default rules not working correctly sometimes - I always do all combinations explicitly - makes it easier later to change them |
| 09:55 |
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kf |
not missing some combination by accident |
| 09:56 |
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kf |
bug 4530 |
| 09:56 |
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kf |
hm sleepy bot? :) |
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kf |
paul_p: the main problem with the interface is, that if you have a lot of rules it's very hard to spot problems or missing combinations |
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kf |
paul_p: and very easy to make mistakes when manually adding rules :( |
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* kf |
nick kf_mtg |
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Amit_Gupta |
gaetan_B around??? |
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hdl |
hi Amit_Gupta |
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Amit_Gupta |
heya hdl |
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gaetan_B |
hi Amit_Gupta ! i'm here :) |
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slef |
hi all. Is there a way to see the past loans for a patron? |
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hdl |
circulation history |
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hdl |
page. |
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slef |
wrong question |
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slef |
my fault |
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slef |
thanks hdl and sorry |
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slef |
trying again: hi all. Is there a way to see the past holds for a patron? |
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slef |
ah, now you see that's a harder question, so people run away ;) |
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hdl |
the whole hold Module amkes ppl run away. slef patches welcome |
| 11:41 |
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slef |
hdl: if it's not there, we might get funding to add the feature and do some related cleanup. We're bidding for all sorts of projects again. |
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kf_mtg |
slef: a report on old_reserves? |
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kf_mtg |
using a runtime parameter for the cardnumber/borrowernumbr |
| 12:02 |
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slef |
kf_mtg: wow I'd not noticed old_reserves before |
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kf |
:) |
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jcamins_away |
Whoah! |
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jcamins_away |
marcelr++ # lists permissions patches |
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kf |
hi jcamins_away |
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jcamins |
Hello. |
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* jcamins |
is rebasing 7284 and squashing in the follow up this morning. |
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jcamins |
I will also write an executive summary. |
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kf |
bug 7284 |
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wahanui |
i heard bug 7284 was the first step to making that happen. |
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kf |
huginn missing? |
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kf |
gmcharlt: around? |
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magnuse |
Bug 7284 - Authority matching algorithm improvements http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7284 |
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paul_p |
hi back from lunch |
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slef |
@later tell Amit_Gupta please say what you want to say and I'll read it later, or email me. |
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jcamins |
nengard: I wrote a detailed commit message for bug 7284 so that it'll be easy to incorporate information about it into the manual. |
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jcamins |
A detailed test plan, too. |
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jcamins |
Isn't that convenient... makes it easy to test! |
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nengard |
thanks jcamins |
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magnuse |
jcamins++ |
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jcamins_away |
schuster++ |
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kf |
paul_p: around? :) |
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janPasi |
which distro would you guys recommend for running koha? |
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janPasi |
i've been using slackware because i pefer it's simplicity |
| 14:33 |
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janPasi |
but i've been having massive problems with new slackware and new koha versions |
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janPasi |
they just don't seem to work well together :( |
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kf |
I think Debian is probably the easiest, Ubuntu is easy too |
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kf |
there are Debian packages... |
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janPasi |
i've been thinking of maybe switching to ubuntu 11.04 LTS |
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janPasi |
i'm currently running ubuntu based mint lxde on my laptop, so i know ubuntu pretty well |
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paul_p |
kf yep |
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janPasi |
all the servers that i maintain are still running slackware, though ;) |
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kf |
paul_p: I have edited the google docs :) |
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janPasi |
hmm... maybe i'll go with debian afterall |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #629 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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mbalmer |
paul_p. tnx fer info! |
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* oleonard |
is running out of time to dredge up his knowledge of French from high school... |
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mbalmer |
hallo mveron! |
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mveron |
mbalmer: hello |
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wahanui |
salut, mveron |
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mveron |
hello everybody |
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mveron |
kf around? |
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* mbalmer |
likes mveron's IP address ;) |
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mveron |
Question about z39.50 import: how can we map fields from imported data to our custom framework, e.g. 003 to 040? |
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kf |
mveron: in a bit |
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slef |
mveron: Last time I looked (3.0), that's a tricky one. I've pondered an enhancement to read the MARC over z39.50, convert to marcxml, run through a XSL Transformation, then use the transformed record. I don't think I've even got as far as an RFC for that yet. Got any funding? |
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* slef |
waits for the howls telling him this was all fixed in 3.6 |
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* mbalmer |
waits for that, too .. |
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mveron |
kf: Just wanted to tell that I scceeded with the update, including German language |
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kf |
yay :) |
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mveron |
Finally it was done in a couple of minutes... I just had to find out how. Thanks fpr your support :-) |
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oleonard |
slef: I wonder if you have any opinion on the usability of tag clouds? I'm struggling with a way to present a tag cloud in a way that distinguishes the user's tags from others' tags. |
| 15:23 |
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oleonard |
The use of color as a distinguishing element seems not universally friendly to me |
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* oleonard |
considered this, but that doesn't help the user of a screen reader http://screencast.com/t/0PP8FXpiKF4I |
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slef |
oleonard: colour combined with dotted underline? |
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slef |
oleonard: I think in the past we've resorted to having global/user/combined tag clouds, but that's not great. |
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slef |
oleonard: are the blue-on-white ones the other tags? If so, dotted border would work. |
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oleonard |
You would prefer a border to the white-on-blue? |
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slef |
no I meant as well on the blue on whites |
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slef |
lets you guess the clickable area more easily |
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slef |
but yours isn't bad... doesn't solve for screen readers though, you're right |
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slef |
but I guess they can just set 0 other-people's tags |
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* oleonard |
finds it strange that the border and background don't wrap the same way the text does |
| 15:32 |
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kf |
mveron: there is an enhancement waiting for some more tests |
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kf |
slef: also interesting for you too perhaps, allows applying a stylesheet to incoming marc21 records via z39.50 |
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slef |
kf: got link? |
| 15:33 |
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mbalmer |
that sounds like what we are looking for. |
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kf |
slef,mveron: I tested with some easay transformations, it works great, there is only a problem with the unimarc stylesheet |
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kf |
bug 6536 |
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mbalmer |
can the stylesheet be defined on a per server base? |
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kf |
it's included in the sru bug :) |
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kf |
a description with test plan is on the wiki |
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kf |
yes |
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slef |
where's huginn? |
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wahanui |
huginn is a bot too veera, not a person |
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kf |
slef: on vacation? I hoped for gmcharlt to show up |
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slef |
gmcharlt: could you restart huginn please? |
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* oleonard |
hopes huginn is offline for re-education |
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kf |
mbalmer: yes, you can define one for each z39.50 target |
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mbalmer |
perfect! |
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slef |
oleonard: lobotomy? |
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oleonard |
Re-educating him on the new Bugzilla statuses |
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kf |
mbalmer: it's only stuck because there is a problem with unimarc :( |
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mbalmer |
what is that problem? |
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kf |
mbalmer: a working unimarc to marc21 xslt is needed to make it move forward |
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kf |
it's all in the comments on the bug |
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jcamins_away |
I loathe driving, bu it sure can be convenient to have a car at times. |
| 15:39 |
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slef |
oh wow. Did someone really post a whitney scam link to koha's facebook page? |
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* slef |
goes to see if someone else has removed it |
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slef |
jcamins_away++ |
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jcamins_away |
slef: what did I do? |
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slef |
jcamins_away: said wise words |
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mbalmer |
hmm, I don't find that xsl file.. |
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mbalmer |
a, found it. |
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jcamins |
Are we talking about marcelr's super-cool Z39.50/SRU processing patch? |
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mbalmer |
yes |
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jcamins |
Isn't it super-cool? :) |
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mbalmer |
bug 6536 |
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slef |
cool, looks like facebook spam's been deleted already |
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kf |
it is super-cool |
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mbalmer |
he who wrote that XSLT fk |
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kf |
so we should fix it and make it go in |
| 15:43 |
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mbalmer |
… file is crazy ;) |
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kf |
I think the unimarc to marc21 is based on work from biblibre |
| 15:43 |
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mbalmer |
yes. |
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kf |
I haven't looked at it - could be too traumatic :) |
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kf |
but it seems to work well enough |
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kf |
for unimarc-to-marc21 |
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jcamins |
Myshkin is missing. |
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jcamins |
What a nuisance. |
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kf |
myshkin is missing?? |
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kf |
where did you loose him? |
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jcamins |
Oh, he's in hiding because he knows he isn't allowed into the basement. |
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jcamins |
(and when I came home, he had opened the basement door) |
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jcamins |
(and gone into hiding so he wouldn't get in trouble for it) |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #629: SUCCESS in 47 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/629/ |
| 15:50 |
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jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Bug 7080 - Revised - Clean up interface on fine payment screens |
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jenkins_koha |
* juan.sieira: Previous and next functions are not used, since this code was removed from mas_subfields_structure.pl |
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jenkins_koha |
* robin: Bug 7238 - make packages deal with SIP config |
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jcamins |
But I'd like to know where he is. |
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kf |
jcamins: shake the package with the dried cat food? |
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jcamins |
kf: lol |
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jcamins |
I was actually just thinking I should do that. |
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* jcamins |
goes to feed Myshkin more. |
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oleonard |
Or open a can of tuna? |
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jcamins |
Or, at least, pretend he's feeding Myshkin more. |
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kf |
sssh |
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kf |
don't tell him |
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kf |
ok, leaving - bye all! |
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oleonard |
When I had cats they would get a crazed look in their eyes around tuna |
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jcamins |
Well, I don't know where he was, but he must've been pretty close to the closet where we keep his food. |
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oleonard |
Guest2198 around? |
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jcamins |
Who's Guest2198? |
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oleonard |
I'm assuming it's wizzyrea |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
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jcamins |
Yeah, probably is. |
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oleonard |
She changes her nick to see if we talk about her behind her back |
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jcamins |
lol |
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* jcamins |
makes a snarky comment about her. |
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jcamins |
So she doesn't feel like she wasted the effort. |
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oleonard |
I'm looking at Bug 7549 (http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=7549) but I don't know where the auto generated user name and passwords are coming from |
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oleonard |
A system pref I'm not aware of? |
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reiveune |
bye |
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* wizzyrea |
waves |
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* oleonard |
glares at Guest2198 |
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oleonard |
wizzyrea: I'm looking at Bug 7549 (http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=7549) but I don't know where the auto generated user name and passwords are coming from |
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oleonard |
A system pref I'm not aware of? |
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mveron |
We have media rated by different age, e.g. 12, 14, 15 years old. |
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mveron |
How can we prevent under aged patrons to check out such media without using tons patron categories? |
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oleonard |
mveron: You have to use some combination of item type and patron category. Koha doesn't have any circulation limitations based on age or rating |
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wizzyrea |
hmm I'm not sure |
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Guest2198 was kicked by wizzyrea: Guest2198 |
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wizzyrea |
stupid guest. |
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* wizzyrea |
has been home with a sick kid all day |
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wizzyrea |
er, s/day/week/ |
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* oleonard |
sends Popsicles |
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wizzyrea |
*nods* you know the drill :) |
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wizzyrea |
possibly the most alarming influenza/pneumonia thing we've seen yet. |
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oleonard |
:( |
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* mbalmer |
looks at mveron.. |
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wizzyrea |
but ultimately conquered by the little man |
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* mbalmer |
and smiles |
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wizzyrea |
(he's getting better) |
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jcamins |
I need to leave in forty minutes. Myshkin has climbed into my lap and fallen sound asleep. |
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* mbalmer |
things, mveron should to be told about /me ... |
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cait |
what did I miss? :) |
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wizzyrea |
hm that may not be long enough for myshkin's nap |
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wizzyrea |
can you reschedule? |
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* mveron |
thanks mbalmer for IRC smiling instructions |
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jcamins |
cait: Myshkin fell asleep in my lapt, putting my legs to sleep, and making it difficult for me to eat lunch before I leave. |
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mbalmer |
cait, mveron learning about IRC ;) |
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* cait |
is peeling violet potatos |
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jcamins |
More violet potatoes? |
| 16:25 |
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jcamins |
Do they taste like regular potatoes? |
| 16:26 |
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cait |
I didn't eat them yesterday |
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cait |
ended up eating the normal potatoes |
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cait |
but the one I tasted didn't taste too different |
| 16:31 |
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cait |
jcamins: do you want a photo? :) |
| 16:31 |
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jcamins |
cait: yes please. :) |
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oleonard |
wizzyrea, if you're still around, any suggestions about testing Bug 7549? |
| 16:32 |
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wizzyrea |
well what I did |
| 16:33 |
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wizzyrea |
was create a new patron, put in the required fields, do nothing to the login/password, and click Save |
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chris_n |
interesting: http://www.unixmen.com/linuxmi[…]-growth-analysis/ |
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wizzyrea |
(or whatever the affirmative button says |
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wizzyrea |
) |
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wizzyrea |
in my case it was populated with the auto generated card number? |
| 16:33 |
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wizzyrea |
the login, I mean |
| 16:33 |
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wizzyrea |
and ther were 4 stars in the 1st password box |
| 16:36 |
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oleonard |
wizzyrea: And you were blocked from saving? |
| 16:36 |
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wizzyrea |
when i clicked save, it told me my passwords didnt match |
| 16:36 |
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oleonard |
What required fields do you have defined? |
| 16:36 |
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wizzyrea |
just surname and zip |
| 16:36 |
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wizzyrea |
letme double check that |
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* oleonard |
is able to save just fine |
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oleonard |
I wonder what's different |
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wizzyrea |
not sure... let me check my preferences |
| 16:41 |
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oleonard |
I have autoMemberNum set to "Do" |
| 16:41 |
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wizzyrea |
ah oleonard |
| 16:41 |
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wizzyrea |
do you have automembernum set |
| 16:41 |
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wizzyrea |
mine's set to                                                                                       Do |
| 16:41 |
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wizzyrea |
DO |
| 16:41 |
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oleonard |
Me too |
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wizzyrea |
hmmm |
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wizzyrea |
this is my defaults: zipcode|surname|cardnumber |
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wizzyrea |
required, I mean |
| 16:43 |
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wizzyrea |
minpasswordlength set to 3... |
| 16:43 |
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wizzyrea |
should be standard. |
| 16:44 |
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wizzyrea |
this DB came from the sample data + some bibs. |
| 16:44 |
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wizzyrea |
so it shouldn't be anthing out of the ordinary |
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* oleonard |
still can't reproduce |
| 16:45 |
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oleonard |
The *** in the password field appeared after you tried to save? |
| 16:46 |
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wizzyrea |
it appeared before |
| 16:46 |
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wizzyrea |
maybe a chrome thing? |
| 16:46 |
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* wizzyrea |
is using chrome on linux |
| 16:47 |
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wizzyrea |
it says "the following fields are mandatory: the passwords entered do not match" |
| 16:47 |
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wizzyrea |
I can make it do it every time |
| 16:47 |
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mbalmer |
bye folks, see you on the other side! |
| 16:47 |
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wizzyrea |
(bye |
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wizzyrea |
) |
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mveron |
good bye everyone |
| 16:48 |
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wizzyrea |
later :) |
| 16:50 |
|
* oleonard |
mutters, 'what do you mean there's already a Han Solo registered?' |
| 16:50 |
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* chris_n |
goes for another "We are upgrading from Koha 3.03.00.003 to 3.06.03.000..." run |
| 16:51 |
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wizzyrea |
@quote add ***oleonard mutters, 'what do you mean there's already a Han Solo registered?' |
| 16:51 |
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oleonard |
wizzyrea: Sorry to ask, but you're sure there's nothing in the username/password fields before saving? |
| 16:52 |
|
pastebot |
"chris_n" at 63.162.197.228 pasted ""We are upgrading from Koha 3.03.00.003 to 3.06.03.000..." errors" (10 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/260 |
| 16:52 |
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wizzyrea |
no, they are autopopulating with the generated cardnumber |
| 16:52 |
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wizzyrea |
and who knows what password |
| 16:52 |
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chris_n |
^^ for anyone interested in misc harmless errors during upgrade |
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* wizzyrea |
curses at the lack of decent screencasting for linux. |
| 16:53 |
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wizzyrea |
if anyone has an open solution suggestion I'm willing to take it (for that) |
| 16:53 |
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oleonard |
wizzyrea: Before submission? In the otherwise blank entry form? |
| 16:54 |
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wizzyrea |
right |
| 16:54 |
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oleonard |
No custom javascript? Not browser-based auto-population? |
| 16:54 |
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wizzyrea |
I don't think so but I will double check - seems odd that it would autopopulate with the generated cardnumber though |
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wizzyrea |
nothing in intranetuserjs |
| 16:55 |
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wizzyrea |
or intranetusercss |
| 16:58 |
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oleonard |
Is it a javascript alert? |
| 16:59 |
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wizzyrea |
ok, you may be able to slap me with a trout |
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* oleonard |
readies a trout |
| 17:01 |
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wizzyrea |
it looks like my browser is autofilling it :( sorry |
| 17:01 |
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wizzyrea |
commence the trout slapping |
| 17:03 |
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* oleonard |
swings, but the trout escapes |
| 17:03 |
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wizzyrea |
but what *is* interesting |
| 17:03 |
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wizzyrea |
is that I don't see, in chrome |
| 17:03 |
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wizzyrea |
where to clear that |
| 17:03 |
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gaetan_B |
bye! |
| 17:03 |
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cait |
wizzyrea: perhaps there is something we can add to the field to prevent autofilling? like we did for the barcode fields? |
| 17:04 |
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oleonard |
I think auto-fill is different than auto-suggest |
| 17:04 |
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wizzyrea |
yea |
| 17:04 |
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cait |
oh :( |
| 17:05 |
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cait |
that would have been to easy I guess? |
| 17:11 |
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oleonard |
wizzyrea: Did you find it? Preferences -> Personal stuff -> Passwords. |
| 17:12 |
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oleonard |
I'll be Chrome isn't clever enough to tell the difference between the Koha login form and the patron entry form |
| 17:12 |
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oleonard |
s/be/bet |
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wizzyrea |
I suspect you're right |
| 17:13 |
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wizzyrea |
oh passwords, that makes so much sense. <eyeroll> |
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* wizzyrea |
is annoyed at chrome, not at oleonard |
| 17:15 |
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oleonard |
Good, because I don't have another upgrade due for a while |
| 17:15 |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
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francharb |
hi |
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wahanui |
niihau, francharb |
| 17:20 |
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francharb |
can a patron renew a book if it's an overdue book? |
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oleonard |
Depends on a few things, but generally yes francharb |
| 17:21 |
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francharb |
depends on what? if you allow renewals or not and if there are renewals rules, right? |
| 17:22 |
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oleonard |
You can set renewal limits (only renew X number of times) |
| 17:22 |
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* wizzyrea |
suspects that oleonard v2 is already done with production, and undergoing a growth cycle at the moment. They changed the name though. |
| 17:23 |
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francharb |
it seems strange to me, that even if you allow renewals and set up rules, a patron can renew a book with overdues |
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francharb |
but thanks oleonard for the answer! |
| 17:23 |
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oleonard |
francharb: You think that if it's overdue one should not be able to renew? |
| 17:23 |
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francharb |
yes |
| 17:24 |
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oleonard |
I don't know that Koha can do that... |
| 17:25 |
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cait |
I think it can't |
| 17:25 |
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cait |
and should be an option |
| 17:25 |
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cait |
I think we have an option for 'over amount x can't renew' |
| 17:25 |
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francharb |
I think so too |
| 17:25 |
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cait |
but not sure |
| 17:25 |
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francharb |
there is an option |
| 17:25 |
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francharb |
a syspref |
| 17:25 |
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francharb |
to overide |
| 17:25 |
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francharb |
renewalls limit |
| 17:26 |
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francharb |
but I think there should be a syspref to block patron from renewal on overdue books too |
| 17:26 |
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francharb |
something like : OverduesBlockCirc but for the opac renewals |
| 17:28 |
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oleonard |
I would think that OverduesBlockCirc should be blocking opac renewals already |
| 17:28 |
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francharb |
humm |
| 17:28 |
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francharb |
apparently not |
| 17:28 |
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francharb |
one of our library complain about it |
| 17:28 |
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cait |
oleonard: they block circulation of new books instaff |
| 17:28 |
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francharb |
and patched it |
| 17:28 |
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cait |
I think it's out of scope |
| 17:28 |
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cait |
the reneals |
| 17:28 |
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francharb |
they may have open up a bugzilla tix |
| 17:28 |
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oleonard |
An oversight, or just the way that library's policy worked? |
| 17:29 |
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wizzyrea |
chris_n did I already ask you about bug 7090 and 3.6.4? |
| 17:29 |
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oleonard |
http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7090 |
| 17:31 |
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chris_n |
wizzyrea: I don't recall.. I can't remember... |
| 17:32 |
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chris_n |
where's huginn when you need it? |
| 17:32 |
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chris_n |
should it go into 3.6.4? |
| 17:33 |
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wizzyrea |
well NEKLS would like it to, but I don't know if it's a feature or a bugfix. |
| 17:34 |
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* sekjal |
has QA'ed up a storm. time for lunch |
| 17:34 |
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wizzyrea |
certainly it fixes a perceived "bug" |
| 17:34 |
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wizzyrea |
but it's labeled as enhancement |
| 17:35 |
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* chris_n |
finds that is a not-so-uncommon occurrence |
| 17:35 |
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chris_n |
having what is really a bug labeled as enh |
| 17:35 |
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chris_n |
but if it fixes a problem it is a bug even if it is an enh |
| 17:35 |
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chris_n |
imho |
| 17:36 |
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oleonard |
What if I think it's a problem that I don't have a pony? |
| 17:36 |
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* chris_n |
is trying to find time to get 3.6.4 cherry-picked :-P |
| 17:36 |
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* wizzyrea |
thinks that it is a definite bugfix to get oleonard a pony |
| 17:36 |
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chris_n |
oleonard: that's in the horse family rather than the bug family |
| 17:36 |
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chris_n |
or is that specie |
| 17:37 |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
| 17:37 |
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* wizzyrea |
recognizes that one is a 123 |
| 17:38 |
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chris_n |
I suppose then that oleonard cannot be expected to pony-up? |
| 17:38 |
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* wizzyrea |
thinks that the pony would also need a saddle |
| 17:38 |
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chris_n |
yup; and food and hay |
| 17:38 |
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chris_n |
just think of the gas you'd save getting to work |
| 17:39 |
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* oleonard |
isn't sure my pony would be up to a 10-mile gallop each way |
| 17:40 |
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paul_p |
if someone could signoff bug 7545, Koha would thank you : atm, serials module is badly broken... |
| 17:40 |
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chris_n |
this: |
| 17:40 |
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chris_n |
DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Data too long for column 'isbn' at row 1 at /home/cnighswonger/Repositories/koha.3.2.labels//C4/Biblio.pm line 3378. |
| 17:40 |
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chris_n |
is a bug that has been around too long |
| 17:40 |
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paul_p |
wow... 20 bugs passed QA recently... |
| 17:40 |
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paul_p |
(18 today) |
| 17:41 |
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paul_p |
good job sekjal & marcelr & joubu |
| 17:43 |
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sekjal |
paul_p: sorry for letting such a backlog build. |
| 17:43 |
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sekjal |
I'm finally getting settled at my new job, so I had some time today to throw at QA work |
| 17:43 |
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paul_p |
if you pass QA the 24 that are still waiting today i'll accept your apologizes :o) |
| 17:44 |
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wizzyrea |
paul_p: i'm working on that right now |
| 17:44 |
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paul_p |
sekjal++ |
| 17:44 |
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paul_p |
wizzyrea++ |
| 17:44 |
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paul_p |
well, now i've 20 patches to test & push... |
| 17:44 |
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paul_p |
and it's almost 7PM... |
| 17:45 |
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paul_p |
fortunatly, tomorrow i'll be available for all the day. |
| 17:45 |
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paul_p |
sekjal if you could concentrate on QAing biblibre patches, I think i and/or joubu will be able to deal with others tomorrow |
| 17:45 |
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oleonard |
Is there a patch or bug for adding patron images to self checkout? |
| 17:46 |
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sekjal |
paul_p: that sounds reasonable |
| 17:47 |
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wizzyrea |
paul_p: I"m going to squash 7545 if that's ok |
| 17:48 |
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paul_p |
wizzyrea no problem |
| 17:48 |
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schuster |
oleonard - isn't there a syspref? |
| 17:49 |
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oleonard |
schuster: For the staff client. As far as I know it doesn't apply to self checkout |
| 17:49 |
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schuster |
I think there is a second one... just a sec |
| 17:49 |
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cait |
7113 would be nice... |
| 17:49 |
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sekjal |
paul_p: going to have to come back to this after lunch, though... getting too hungry to think straight |
| 17:49 |
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cait |
or it will probably have to be rebased again :( |
| 17:50 |
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schuster |
ShowPatronImageInWebBasedSelfCheck ? |
| 17:50 |
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cait |
if oyu use patron images |
| 17:50 |
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cait |
you can show them in the self check |
| 17:50 |
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cait |
I think so the patron will see if he is himself? not sure :) |
| 17:51 |
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oleonard |
You're right schuster, thanks |
| 17:51 |
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* oleonard |
wonders how that relates to Bug 3516 |
| 17:51 |
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* chris_n |
wonders why patrons would want to look at a picture of themselves while executing a self-checkout |
| 17:51 |
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chris_n |
photo-id maybe? |
| 17:51 |
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cait |
oh |
| 17:51 |
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* cait |
concentrates on her dinner again |
| 17:51 |
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schuster |
great in schools... That is you right... |
| 17:51 |
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cait |
sorry, i missed the questoin :( |
| 17:51 |
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* chris_n |
can believe that some may need such assurance |
| 17:51 |
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wizzyrea |
paul_p: that patch causes some problems in the tests for serials |
| 17:52 |
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wizzyrea |
or at least, it did in mine, but it might be due to my data possibly |
| 17:52 |
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schuster |
made me nervous there for a minute.. That was an "enhancement" we put forward 3+ years ago1 |
| 17:52 |
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wizzyrea |
(and it may be that the tests are broken now, too) |
| 17:52 |
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schuster |
where did my morning go... drat |
| 17:53 |
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* chris_n |
looks around for it |
| 17:53 |
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chris_n |
must be where ever mine is |
| 17:53 |
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oleonard |
Myshkin is asleep on it |
| 17:55 |
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* chris_n |
wishes there were such a thing as a nomenclature cheat-sheet for koha |
| 17:56 |
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* cait |
misses a whole day |
| 17:56 |
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cait |
! |
| 17:56 |
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wizzyrea |
nomenclature cheat sheet? |
| 17:56 |
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wizzyrea |
what do you mean |
| 17:56 |
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chris_n |
re paul's email to the list |
| 17:56 |
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chris_n |
something to map vars from templates all the way back to db fields, etc. |
| 17:57 |
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oleonard |
that would require that we be consistent with regard to variable names :P |
| 17:57 |
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wizzyrea |
yes, holy wow yes that would be so nie |
| 17:57 |
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wizzyrea |
nice |
| 17:58 |
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slef |
refactirubg work |
| 17:58 |
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slef |
refactoring even |
| 17:58 |
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slef |
when your right hand is not off-by-one |
| 17:58 |
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chris_n |
consistent naming... now there's a novel idea |
| 17:58 |
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| 17:58 |
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wizzyrea |
some of that is caused by the automated translation from htp to tt |
| 17:58 |
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slef |
sort of dirty work I did a little of ages ago that no-one ever wants to pay for and disrupts all outstanding patches |
| 17:59 |
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oleonard |
Did the patron images feature always store images in the database? |
| 17:59 |
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chris_n |
and the marc editor is particularly gnarly iirc |
| 17:59 |
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chris_n |
oleonard: yes |
| 18:00 |
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chris_n |
it avoided a nasty file system permission issue which the general consensus stated was needful to avoid at the time I wrote the feature |
| 18:00 |
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sekjal |
part of our move to the Koha:: namespace could be consistent data objects with well-defined fields |
| 18:01 |
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oleonard |
chris_n: I assumed from the comments on Bug 3516 that it didn't (then), but I think that was a misunderstanding |
| 18:01 |
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sekjal |
and we can then correspondingly move to an HTML5-based template to take advantage of new data |
| 18:02 |
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chris_n |
descriptive var names are another nice thought |
| 18:02 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #630 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 18:02 |
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chris_n |
oleonard: looking |
| 18:03 |
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chris_n |
interesting |
| 18:03 |
|
wahanui |
interesting is sometimes bad or sometimes good |
| 18:03 |
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chris_n |
exactly |
| 18:03 |
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chris_n |
in this case I'm not sure |
| 18:04 |
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chris_n |
oleonard: so what is that bug for? |
| 18:04 |
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chris_n |
oh |
| 18:04 |
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chris_n |
nm |
| 18:04 |
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chris_n |
rangi's patch does it right |
| 18:04 |
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chris_n |
am I missing what you're getting at? |
| 18:05 |
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oleonard |
The patch attached to that bug (which was written by nengard) calls patronimage.pl in the staff client |
| 18:06 |
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oleonard |
Instead it looks like we need to adapt sco-patron-image.pl for the opac |
| 18:06 |
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| 18:07 |
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chris_n |
ahh, yup, to avoid permissions issues |
| 18:07 |
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* chris_n |
seems to recall having this discussion long ago |
| 18:08 |
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chris_n |
really the functionality needs to be moved off to a pm |
| 18:08 |
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chris_n |
then it could be called from anywhere |
| 18:08 |
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chris_n |
I think jcamins and I had a similar discussion recently |
| 18:09 |
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chris_n |
gmcharlt: we miss huginn |
| 18:10 |
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oleonard |
Hmmmm... You can put in anyone's cardnumber and view their patron image in self-checkout |
| 18:10 |
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oleonard |
That sound like a bug to anyone else? |
| 18:11 |
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| 18:11 |
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gmcharlt |
@quote random |
| 18:11 |
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huginn |
gmcharlt: Quote #184: "slef: IF YOU STARE TOO DEEPLY INTO MARC21, MARC21 STARES BACK INTO YOU!" (added by wizzyrea at 06:58 PM, January 30, 2012) |
| 18:11 |
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edveal |
oleonard: I don't have much experience with graphic programs and only have access to Gimp and was wanting to work on the cart/list buttons. I read your blog but don't quite get what I need to do. Might you provide me some assistance? |
| 18:11 |
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* gmcharlt |
suffers a brief moment of existential crisis |
| 18:11 |
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oleonard |
edveal: Certainly. What are you trying to do? |
| 18:12 |
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edveal |
I am working on fixing the blue border. |
| 18:12 |
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edveal |
I have a different background color and it looks funny? |
| 18:14 |
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chris_n |
gmcharlt: lol |
| 18:14 |
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chris_n |
oleonard: sounds buggy to me |
| 18:14 |
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* oleonard |
fires up Gimp |
| 18:14 |
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chris_n |
does it also follow that I can put anyone's card number in and check books out to them |
| 18:14 |
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chris_n |
keep them |
| 18:15 |
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chris_n |
and then they pay |
| 18:15 |
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chris_n |
? |
| 18:16 |
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chris_n |
bbl |
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oleonard |
edveal: Did you try opening the Photoshop file from my blog post? |
| 18:18 |
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edveal |
Yes, I have opened the photoshop file and it when right to gimp. |
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Syneran |
Anyone have any experience with "DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Field 'marcxml' doesn't have a default value" from biblio.pm (when cataloging an item)? |
| 18:21 |
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edveal |
oleonard: I also want to remove the blue outline from the Koha image. I know how to switch the image but not how to edit it. |
| 18:22 |
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oleonard |
edveal: I'm not a Gimp expert, but I think it may not be able to export the right kind of PNG image... |
| 18:22 |
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edveal |
oleonard: darn. |
| 18:23 |
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oleonard |
edveal: I can easily modify the cart/list button background image to make the corners match the color you want |
| 18:23 |
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oleonard |
...and send it to you. |
| 18:24 |
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edveal |
oleonard: that would be great. Here is the color code for the background #E3DB71. |
| 18:25 |
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oleonard |
Or maybe I should spend the afternoon on a patch to style those buttons with CSS3... :P |
| 18:25 |
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* oleonard |
inadvertently joins IRC channel #E3DB71 |
| 18:27 |
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edveal |
I like the idea of the patch! Would make my life much easier! :) |
| 18:28 |
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sekjal |
oleonard++ (CSS3 is a great idea for those buttons. checkout catalog.marlboro.edu for an example, if you need) |
| 18:28 |
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wizzyrea |
edveal - I was able to restyle the buttons with css3 by hiding the images |
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wizzyrea |
let me see if I can find what I did |
| 18:30 |
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pastebot |
"wizzyrea" at 99.109.57.55 pasted "for edveal" (32 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/261 |
| 18:30 |
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wizzyrea |
that went into opacusercss |
| 18:30 |
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wizzyrea |
there might be more i'm still looking :P |
| 18:30 |
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oleonard |
edveal: http://www.screencast.com/t/9YoJiZUPc |
| 18:30 |
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schuster |
so how did marlboro get the reserves lists setup? interesting... |
| 18:31 |
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cait |
oh |
| 18:31 |
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cait |
I have a permission quesiton |
| 18:31 |
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cait |
serials: if I don't have routing permission, should i still be able to print routing lists? |
| 18:31 |
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cait |
I think it would make sense to be able to print, but not change them |
| 18:31 |
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cait |
and hide all routing list things when the system preference is deactivated |
| 18:32 |
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sekjal |
schuster: they use Lists |
| 18:32 |
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oleonard |
sekjal: Is that hard-coded into opacmainuserblock? |
| 18:32 |
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sekjal |
and then create a News entry (manually) each semester to highlight them as shown |
| 18:32 |
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francharb |
no more work for today! |
| 18:32 |
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schuster |
OK so it isn't anything new and fancy... |
| 18:32 |
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francharb |
see ya |
| 18:32 |
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wizzyrea |
schuster: I suspect they created those lists by hand with the name Reserve: Profname |
| 18:33 |
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sekjal |
schuster: no they're on straight community Koha |
| 18:34 |
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* cait |
thinks community Koha is very fancy :) |
| 18:37 |
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cait |
wizzyrea++ |
| 18:37 |
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Syneran |
Heya all. I'm new to IRC, in general, and this chat in particular. |
| 18:37 |
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Syneran |
I'm having a problem with install. Would this be the right place to bring it up? or should I post some where else? |
| 18:37 |
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wizzyrea |
go ahead Syneran |
| 18:37 |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
| 18:38 |
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wizzyrea |
@quote search ask |
| 18:38 |
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huginn |
wizzyrea: 7 found: #117: "<druthb> basking ? You bask on the beach...one...", #126: "<rangi> The beauty of Koha is we develop in the...", #13: "<atz> ricardo: ask and ye shall receive.......", #145: "Don't ask to ask, just ask!", #155: "libsysguy: I always hate touching somebody...", #45: "<CGI988> sekjal - you are a genious!!!!! asking...", and #4: "< kf> I often get asked: You have to study to..." |
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wizzyrea |
@quote get 145 |
| 18:38 |
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huginn |
wizzyrea: Quote #145: "Don't ask to ask, just ask!" (added by wizzyrea at 02:37 PM, July 07, 2011) |
| 18:38 |
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wizzyrea |
;) |
| 18:38 |
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Syneran |
Thanks! my error log is producing this error: |
| 18:39 |
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Syneran |
Field 'marcxml' doesn't have a default value at Biblio.pm line 3454 |
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rangi |
Sup crackalackas |
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cait |
morning rangi |
| 18:40 |
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Syneran |
The method that is executing the xml doesn't seem to include a value for marcxml, yet, it's specified as not null (with no allowed default value) in kohastructure.sql |
| 18:40 |
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mbalmer |
re koha |
| 18:40 |
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Syneran |
method executing [sql] not xml :/ |
| 18:40 |
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cait |
Syneran: what are you trying to do when that error shows up? |
| 18:40 |
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Syneran |
catalog an item |
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sekjal |
Syneran: what version of Koha? |
| 18:41 |
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cait |
which verison did you install? |
| 18:41 |
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sekjal |
cait: jinx |
| 18:41 |
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cait |
oh |
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Syneran |
3.06.03 |
| 18:41 |
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wizzyrea |
oh poo, opendns is canceling "Free" usage for all but home users |
| 18:41 |
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wizzyrea |
hey rangi :) |
| 18:42 |
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cait |
Syneran: and how are you trying to catalog the item? |
| 18:42 |
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cait |
what steps? |
| 18:42 |
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wizzyrea |
perhaps you nuked a field you shouldn't have out of your framework |
| 18:42 |
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wizzyrea |
have you edited your frameworks? |
| 18:42 |
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Syneran |
no, i haven't edited frameworks |
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Syneran |
and i don't know much about marc records |
| 18:43 |
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Syneran |
so i may have messed it up |
| 18:43 |
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Syneran |
i'm actually trying to add first item into catalog |
| 18:43 |
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Syneran |
and it's a toy, hehe...so I'm trying to add as a "kit" |
| 18:44 |
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Syneran |
from mainpage.pl, i went to followed link for "add marc record" |
| 18:45 |
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Syneran |
then followed "Kits" in framework drop-down |
| 18:45 |
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wizzyrea |
hm try wit hthe default framework? |
| 18:45 |
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wizzyrea |
maybe it's a prblem in the kits framework |
| 18:46 |
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Syneran |
ok...i'll give it a try |
| 18:46 |
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sekjal |
reading the code, it doesn't seem like a frameworks error |
| 18:46 |
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Syneran |
since it's a toy, and not something marc records are accustomed too...are there any steps i should take to account for a non-standard item? |
| 18:46 |
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sekjal |
this is taking place in _koha_add_biblioitem, which is a private subroutine for AddBiblio |
| 18:47 |
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Syneran |
that's what it seems like to me, as well, sekjal |
| 18:47 |
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sekjal |
that subroutine doesn't insert anything into biblioitems.marcxml |
| 18:47 |
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sekjal |
just into biblioitems.marc |
| 18:48 |
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wizzyrea |
though I just found another bareword error >< |
| 18:48 |
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wizzyrea |
in master. |
| 18:48 |
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wizzyrea |
oh never mind, it's the same one for additems. |
| 18:49 |
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Syneran |
the schema for biblioitems seems to require something for the marcxml column...otherwise adding a row gets rejected |
| 18:49 |
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Syneran |
does the marcxml get automagically generated at some point in the processing of an add item request? |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #630: SUCCESS in 48 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/630/ |
| 18:50 |
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jenkins_koha |
* nengard: Bug 7545: Can't edit items |
| 18:50 |
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jenkins_koha |
* kyle: Bug 7018 - need all acq permissions to search |
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jenkins_koha |
* maxime.pelletier: Bug 6718 No manager_id saved for writeoff fines. |
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jenkins_koha |
* m.de.rooy: Bug 3264 UnCloneField() / minus button in MARC editor can clear all subfields (authorities AND biblio) |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7545 blocker, P1 - high, ---, nengard, Pushed to Master , can't edit items |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7018 critical, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, Pushed to Master , need all acq permissions to search |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6718 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , No manager_id saved for writeoff of fines |
| 18:50 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3264 major, P2, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Uncloning a dropdown list in MARC authorities/biblio editor may clear all subfields (see comment 17) |
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sekjal |
Syneran: are you finding that the item doesn't get a cataloged at all, or just that you're getting errors in your log |
| 18:51 |
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Syneran |
the item is not being added to the biblioitems table |
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cait |
Syneran: you added a bibliographic record first? |
| 18:52 |
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Syneran |
i'm not sure...by that, I mean I'm not certain of the terminology (forgive me!) |
| 18:52 |
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Syneran |
i was "cataloging"...so is that trying to enter a bibliographic record? |
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sekjal |
Syneran: you can confirm the information isn't getting saved in the database |
| 18:53 |
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Syneran |
Yes, sekjal. Using the mysql client, that table is completely empty (the biblioitems table) |
| 18:54 |
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sekjal |
hmmm |
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rangi |
What about biblio? |
| 18:54 |
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nengard |
how do i pull a branch in git? the manual says it's out of date on my 3.6 branch, but every command i try failes |
| 18:54 |
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Syneran |
biblio DOES have the item in it! |
| 18:56 |
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Syneran |
If I use the search feature, nothing shows up, though |
| 18:56 |
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sekjal |
Syneran: what fields are you filling in when cataloging the new material? |
| 18:56 |
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rangi |
It won't it needs biblioitems too |
| 18:56 |
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Syneran |
thanks rangi |
| 18:58 |
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Syneran |
I'm wondering if the execute() should handle the marcxml field somehow? |
| 18:59 |
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cait |
I wonder what's going wrong for you :( |
| 18:59 |
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rangi |
My stop bbiab |
| 18:59 |
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wizzyrea |
sekjal should we change 3916 to "in disscussion" |
| 18:59 |
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cait |
we are using 3.6.3 in production and adding items and records works nicely there |
| 19:00 |
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wizzyrea |
maybe you're missing a dependency? |
| 19:00 |
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cait |
Syneran: you can find a table showing some of the dependencies under more > about koha |
| 19:01 |
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nengard |
the new AllowItemsOnHoldCheckout preference - is that only for self checkouts? |
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wizzyrea |
only for SIP |
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nengard |
we might want to make that clearer |
| 19:01 |
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wizzyrea |
go right ahead |
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nengard |
I'll put it in the manual, but it says self checkout - that could be assumed to be Koha's self check |
| 19:01 |
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wizzyrea |
it would not be the first time the two were confused. |
| 19:01 |
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nengard |
heh |
| 19:02 |
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sekjal |
wizzyrea: done |
| 19:02 |
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Syneran |
more > koha has a perl modules tab. It has a table of dependencies. |
| 19:03 |
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cait |
something red there? |
| 19:03 |
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Syneran |
there are four that are not installed, though it was my understanding from koha_perl_deps that they were optional |
| 19:05 |
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Syneran |
Graphics::Magick, Net::Server, Gravatar::URL, DBD::SQLite2 |
| 19:08 |
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Syneran |
i don't see how that execute() function could ever work if it doesn't provide some value for the marcxml field. the database does't seem to allow it |
| 19:08 |
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janPasi |
I was wondering about this debian stuff... |
| 19:08 |
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janPasi |
which version should I choose? |
| 19:08 |
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janPasi |
the latest stable? |
| 19:09 |
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liw |
janPasi, yeah, the latest stable version is almost certainly the best for your purposes |
| 19:09 |
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janPasi |
ok, thanks :) |
| 19:10 |
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rangi |
http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 19:12 |
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cait |
Syneran: a record needs a marcxml field |
| 19:14 |
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Syneran |
cait: any idea how that field gets populated? the _koha_add_biblioitem doesn't make any reference to that field in it's query (that I can tell, anyway) |
| 19:15 |
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cait |
Syneran: not sure about the code |
| 19:15 |
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cait |
still wondering what's going wrong in your installation |
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rangi |
yeah i have libraries in production with 3.6.3 and they havent run into this |
| 19:16 |
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cait |
I don't think it#s a bug |
| 19:16 |
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cait |
more a problem with your installation |
| 19:18 |
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Syneran |
ok. well...that is certainly fair cait :) this installation is unusual in that it's on windows 7 |
| 19:18 |
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Syneran |
<ducks> am i gonna get egged now ;) |
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sekjal |
Syneran: very interesting |
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sekjal |
that would explain why |
| 19:19 |
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sekjal |
almost everyone here is installed on Linux (the vast majority being Debian, I believe) |
| 19:19 |
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Syneran |
why i am getting an error? |
| 19:20 |
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sekjal |
Syneran: being installed on Win 7 is a big enough difference that issues like this could easily crop up. Perhaps the way MySQL works on Win 7 is just different enough to cause problems like this |
| 19:21 |
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Syneran |
so, I "fixed" the query in _koha_add_biblioitem to set a default value to the marcxml field if that field is undef on the $biblioitem object, and the request worked. |
| 19:21 |
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Syneran |
in other words, I added $biblioitem->{'marcxml'} = "<x></x>" unless defined( $biblioitem->{'marcxml'} ); then added the marcxml field to the query |
| 19:22 |
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Syneran |
what I don't know, is <x></x> a really bad idea as a default value? |
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cait |
that will not work |
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cait |
all the important information goes into that field.... I highly doubt it will work |
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sekjal |
better to use "" |
| 19:22 |
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sekjal |
I think empty string would be acceptable |
| 19:22 |
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sekjal |
since it's not NULL |
| 19:23 |
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sekjal |
cait: I think marcxml gets populated later in the AddBiblio subroutine |
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cait |
ok |
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sekjal |
this would just be a crutch get to Win 7 (and perhaps other OS's) to get to that point |
| 19:23 |
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Syneran |
interestingly, post query that field looks nothing like the default value i gave it. |
| 19:23 |
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Syneran |
lemme change it to "". |
| 19:23 |
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Shane-S |
I got Koha installed, but nothing it showing up at localhost:8080 and localhost just has the default "It Works!" How do I get Koha as a recognized Apache site? |
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sekjal |
Shane-S: usually you need "sudo a2dissite default" then "sudo a2ensite koha" |
| 19:25 |
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Shane-S |
I followed http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ing_Koha_packages for the most part (change the sources.list to use squeeze versus squeeeze-dev |
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sekjal |
also be sure your apache2/ports.conf has a Listen 8080 line |
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Shane-S |
sekjal: AH! that second line is missing from the tutorial |
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sekjal |
and then restart apache to reload these modified configurations |
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Shane-S |
kk let me give that a try, ty |
| 19:27 |
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Syneran |
erm, so, things seem to be working for me (now that I modified biblio.pm)...thanks everyone |
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Shane-S |
sekjal: Site koha doesn't exist, and etc/apache2/sites-available is now empty (no default files) |
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Shane-S |
is there a koha conf I cna copy or do I manually make it |
| 19:28 |
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Shane-S |
well i guess symlink versus copy |
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sekjal |
Shane-S: ah, so you'll need to symlink the koha-httpd.conf from your install directory to /etc/apache2/sites-available |
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nengard |
need some git help - i can't push to the 3.6 manual - i tried doing a reset to HEAD, that didn't work, how do i pull an updated branch? |
| 19:28 |
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Syneran |
add the line Include {pathTo}/koha-httpd.conf into apache httpd.conf (at the end) |
| 19:29 |
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Syneran |
well...that's what I had to do on windows cuz there's no equivalant to the a2 cmds |
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Shane-S |
Syneran: I was told that is so Apache 1 by someone in #Apache on irc.freenode.net so I havelearned to symlink :P |
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Shane-S |
WIndows...yeah...think 7 have a symlink feature now though |
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Syneran |
perhaps shane-s but i don't think apache for windows has a sites-available directory |
| 19:31 |
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Syneran |
at least i couldn't find one :) |
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Shane-S |
grr...I dont have a koha-https.conf in /etc/koha I see apache-shared.conf (few more with dis-,intra-,opac) is it somewhere else? |
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Syneran |
while I'm here, is there any interest (in a general way) about the problems faced when installing to windows 7? I'd be glad to document what I've had to do and post it some where for others |
| 19:33 |
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Shane-S |
*raises hand* I love linux...but I run all Windows Server / 7 here at work |
| 19:33 |
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Shane-S |
I suck at Linux too :P |
| 19:34 |
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Syneran |
e.g., the Schedule::At module doesn't work at all for any windows platform (I hope to remedy that in the near future...already in discussion with the author) |
| 19:35 |
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Syneran |
Alright shane-s. Just need to have some idea where such a document would go |
| 19:35 |
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rangi |
i wont try to stop you, but proprietary software holds no interest for me, so probably wont be much help either |
| 19:36 |
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Shane-S |
is the apache-shared.conf = koha-httpd.conf ? I can find this apache-shared.conf in an install guide |
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Shane-S |
can't* |
| 19:37 |
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Shane-S |
Syneran: subpage here: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]gory:Installation ?? |
| 19:38 |
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rangi |
nengard: what is the error you are getting when you do a git pull? |
| 19:39 |
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nengard |
PMed cause it was a bit long for paste |
| 19:40 |
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Syneran |
Thanks everyone so much for your help! bye now |
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oleonard |
So... we really do simply *trust* that a self checkout user is who they say they are? |
| 19:41 |
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oleonard |
Do we make this assumption because the SCO station supposedly has no keyboard? |
| 19:41 |
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cait |
hm I think we require login? |
| 19:41 |
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cait |
there is a system preference |
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oleonard |
Ah, I see: either barcode or username/password. |
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rangi |
yup |
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rangi |
some places do trust |
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rangi |
like corporate libraries |
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sekjal |
some libraries set their SIP-enabled SCO machines to only require barcode, as well |
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sekjal |
but Koha is not as forgiving with that |
| 19:46 |
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sekjal |
it will only allow the barcode-only auth if no password is defined in the database for that user |
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cait |
interesting |
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wahanui |
rumour has it interesting is sometimes bad or sometimes good |
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sekjal |
I was working on a way to configure that, but ran into some problems |
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sekjal |
like, at what level should the config be set? |
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sekjal |
I'd argue against globally, since you may want one SIP machine to be barcode-only, but other services like Overdrive or EnvisionWare to require passwords |
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sekjal |
so at a per-listener end, then, but I don't believe that bit of config code is accessible during the authentication subroutine |
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sekjal |
I know it can be done, but it was a pain to fight with |
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Shane-S |
is there a way to tell if Koha is installed...because http://git.koha-community.org/[…]LL.ubuntu;hb=HEAD has way more to do thenhttp://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ing_Koha_packages |
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Shane-S |
*sigh* does Koha use a web-based setup at all or is it all via perl Makefile.PL? |
| 19:58 |
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rangi |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ocs.git;a=summary yay |
| 19:58 |
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rangi |
Shane-S: uses a web based one as well |
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Shane-S |
I just dont know where http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ing_Koha_packages has left me |
| 19:58 |
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rangi |
and if you installed it using packages, not the Makefile.PL if you did it using the tarball then yes you have to run perl Makefile.PL |
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Shane-S |
I don't have a koha-httpd.conf file |
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rangi |
you wont |
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rangi |
if you installed via packages |
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Shane-S |
I did install it via .deb packages |
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rangi |
http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
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rangi |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ebian#Quick_Start |
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rangi |
i bet you are up to that bit |
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chris_n |
29k bibs and counting... :P |
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rangi |
you have done the apt-get install koha-common eh? |
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* chris_n |
removes items from bibs |
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chris_n |
heya rangi |
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rangi |
heya chris_n |
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wahanui |
release maintainer for 3.2, 3.4, and 3.6. |
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Shane-S |
rangi yep... and "After install, edit /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf with details about your site." I have koha-conf-sites.xml.ini, but not that |
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rangi |
yep, make one |
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Shane-S |
ah okay :P |
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rangi |
that looks very similair to that snippet |
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rangi |
leave out the DEFAULTSQL bit |
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Space_Librarian |
o/ |
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rangi |
hi Space_Librarian |
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rangi |
tgif |
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jcamins_away |
chris_n: what were we discussing? |
| 20:04 |
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ibeardslee |
I can never understand that sentiment .. it's like it should be 'tgim' .. back at work, awesome! |
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Space_Librarian |
tgif indeed rangi :) |
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chris_n |
jcamins_away: fine chocolates maybe? |
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chris_n |
:) |
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Space_Librarian |
did somebody say chocolate?! |
| 20:05 |
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chris_n |
actually, the storage and retrieval of images |
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jcamins |
Mmmm. Chocolate. |
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jcamins |
Ah, yeah. |
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jcamins |
You could generalize the C4::Images class I did. |
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Space_Librarian |
mmmm. Chocolate. |
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oleonard |
Hmm... I see you can renew an item for anyone via the OPAC if you know their borrowernumber and the itemnumber... |
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ibeardslee |
I ended up pigging out on a box of chocolates last night |
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rangi |
it doesnt use the borrowernumber that you are logged in as? |
| 20:06 |
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rangi |
thats definitely a blocker bug if so |
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Shane-S |
rangi: thanks, I assume using koha-create --create-db mylibrary is safe once that is done? |
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* Space_Librarian |
breaks out the s'mores pop tarts |
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Space_Librarian |
(dealing with subject headings today) |
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rangi |
youve done the a2enmod rewrite etc? |
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jcamins |
Space_Librarian: s'mores pop tarts aren't goign to cut it. |
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Shane-S |
yeah that was done from the other tutorial I followed for Ubuntu |
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Space_Librarian |
they all I have here for now |
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Space_Librarian |
I'll rectify the situation when it's not 9am. :) |
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Shane-S |
peanut butter on them might help ;) |
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wizzyrea |
it's marshmallow, chocolate, and graham, what more could anyone want |
| 20:08 |
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wizzyrea |
peanut butter, I guess. |
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Space_Librarian |
thanks wizzyrea! :p |
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* wizzyrea |
makes smores in the microwave with marshmallows and nutella |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: you don't put peanut butter on s'mores?!? |
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wizzyrea |
! |
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wizzyrea |
no? |
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wahanui |
no is, like, failing unit tests |
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* jcamins |
doesn't either, but it sounds like a great idea. |
| 20:09 |
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cait |
heh |
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* wizzyrea |
was going to make almond milk swedish pancakes this week but just never got to it |
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wizzyrea |
so much better than cow milk ones. |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: pop tarts don't generally have real chocolate, do they? |
| 20:09 |
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wizzyrea |
well no. |
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wizzyrea |
chocolate flavored syrup stuff |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: there we go. One could want real chocolate. ;) |
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wizzyrea |
but in a pinch, it could work. |
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oleonard |
rangi: In my test, as long as I'm logged in as a valid user in the OPAC I can renew items for someone else using a properly constructed URL |
| 20:13 |
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oleonard |
Tested with a non-admin user |
| 20:13 |
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jcamins |
oleonard: you should report that as a blocker. |
| 20:13 |
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rangi |
right that definitely needs to be fixed fast |
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rangi |
yeah |
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* oleonard |
will do so |
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* jcamins |
can't look at it, but that's kind of a huge problem. |
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jcamins |
At least for places that do circulation. |
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rangi |
most likely an easy fix |
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Space_Librarian |
jcamins, wizzyrea ina pinch it does work. There's a Belgian chocolate place that will be visited at lunch though... |
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jcamins |
Space_Librarian: very good idea. |
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rangi |
discard the param passed in, and use the borrowernumber from the userenv |
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wizzyrea |
nom |
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jcamins |
Space_Librarian: you may want to look at bug 7284 for your subject linking needs. :D |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements |
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* chris_n |
still wonders what keeps a person from running a self-checkout on someone else's card |
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chris_n |
but I suppose that is an exercise for the library using self-co |
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Space_Librarian |
jcamins - *swoon* - that is going to be awesome! |
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jcamins |
Space_Librarian: I know. All it needs is a sign off... hint hint... |
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jcamins |
And it was just rebased this morning, too. |
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wizzyrea |
chris_n: the power of prayer. |
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bag |
Has anyone added a message to the cgi-bin/koha/opac-reserve.pl (on the OPAC) when a patron is placing a hold? |
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bag |
through JQuery maybe? |
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wizzyrea |
before or after the hold is submitted? |
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bag |
I want to add some html on that screen |
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bag |
wizzyrea: yup |
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bag |
sorry |
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bag |
before the hold is place |
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wizzyrea |
I think so |
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* chris_n |
figures retinal scans might fix that issue |
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bag |
like once you click on the place hold button… |
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chris_n |
perhaps using the built-in webcam |
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oleonard |
Bug 7551 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7551 blocker, P1 - high, ---, oleonard, NEW , Any logged-in OPAC user can renew items for others using a properly constructed URL |
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rangi |
thanks oleonard |
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* rangi |
looks now |
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Shane-S |
So I have the installer (web) up, but I need a username and password. The XML password looks encrypted, what is the default for kohauser? |
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jcamins |
Shane-S: it's that gibberish you see in koha-conf.xml. |
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rangi |
its not, look at the username and password at the bottom |
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rangi |
once you create a real user you should never ever log into koha with that user and password again |
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Shane-S |
okay :P |
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jcamins |
Never ever _ever_. |
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* cait |
seconds that |
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Shane-S |
looked like was salted :D |
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jcamins |
Shane-S: nope, just gibberish. |
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rangi |
oleonard: if you have a sec |
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oleonard |
Sure |
| 20:26 |
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rangi |
i whacked a patch up |
| 20:26 |
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cait |
rangi++ |
| 20:27 |
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rangi |
it should ignore the borrowernumber param |
| 20:27 |
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rangi |
or it might explode in a ball of flame |
| 20:27 |
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rangi |
could go either way |
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| 20:33 |
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oleonard |
Okay, with the patch I can't renew for others. Now let's see if I can renew for myself... |
| 20:33 |
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Shane-S |
grr...got through the setup and now I can't login, I see biblio and authoritative in the xml, but that isn't working, nor did the inital one...do I have to make a login somewhere? |
| 20:33 |
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* chris_n |
gets out the fire extinguisher |
| 20:34 |
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schuster |
ok so I have 3 branches in my git that I have been working on. I just realized that I crossed one of the branches as I was editing some of the code did work in branch1 then went to branch2 and did some work and also edited the file from branch1.. is this salvageable or do I start over? |
| 20:34 |
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cait |
Shane-S: you run the webinstaller and then log in again with the same user |
| 20:34 |
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cait |
and first thing you do is create a real user |
| 20:34 |
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Shane-S |
clipboard must have copied wrong |
| 20:34 |
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Shane-S |
in now thanks |
| 20:34 |
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oleonard |
...and I can renew for myself. Looks like it's working as it should |
| 20:35 |
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Shane-S |
can't remember that gibberish :P |
| 20:35 |
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Shane-S |
Thanks |
| 20:37 |
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Shane-S |
is a user called a Patron even if the admin? |
| 20:37 |
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wizzyrea |
yep |
| 20:38 |
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Shane-S |
okay well at least I am in...leave it for another day I am stressed. |
| 20:38 |
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Shane-S |
Thank you all for the help :P |
| 20:41 |
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rangi |
oleonard: yay! |
| 20:41 |
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wizzyrea |
rangi++ |
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cait |
hah rangi++ :) |
| 20:42 |
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wizzyrea |
flaming fireballs! |
| 20:42 |
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oleonard |
Signed off. |
| 20:42 |
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rangi |
excellent |
| 20:43 |
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rangi |
we may have broken the record |
| 20:43 |
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cait |
report, fix, sign-off? |
| 20:43 |
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cait |
qa and push missing |
| 20:43 |
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rangi |
9.21am report |
| 20:43 |
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rangi |
9.24 patch |
| 20:43 |
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rangi |
9.40 signed off |
| 20:44 |
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wizzyrea |
sekjal! halp! :) |
| 20:44 |
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jcamins |
sekjal: QA bug 7551? |
| 20:44 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7551 blocker, P1 - high, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Any logged-in OPAC user can renew items for others using a properly constructed URL |
| 20:44 |
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rangi |
hes at a meeeting |
| 20:44 |
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jcamins |
Oh. |
| 20:44 |
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wizzyrea |
fumble lol |
| 20:44 |
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jcamins |
Well, he'll have lots of highlights when he gets back. |
| 20:55 |
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oleonard |
Now that that distraction is taken care of: http://screencast.com/t/mhE6zh9IgnWx |
| 20:55 |
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* wizzyrea |
giggles. |
| 20:55 |
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rangi |
heh |
| 20:55 |
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jcamins |
LOL! |
| 20:55 |
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jcamins |
You have the greatest patron image ever. |
| 20:56 |
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rangi |
Space_Librarian: going to the slis event on wed night? |
| 20:56 |
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Space_Librarian |
rangi, I am - and I'm dragging my staff with me - not quite kicking and screaming. Are you? |
| 20:57 |
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Space_Librarian |
oleonard - that is fantastic! |
| 20:57 |
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rangi |
atarau is getting his biopsy on wednesday, so nope, but im sure it will be fun :) |
| 20:57 |
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Space_Librarian |
:( I'm sure it will be |
| 21:00 |
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oleonard |
If we show the patron image in the OPAC next they'll ask us to update their image for them :) |
| 21:00 |
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wizzyrea |
should we offer to let them upload their own :P |
| 21:01 |
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rangi |
hells no! |
| 21:01 |
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* wizzyrea |
giggles |
| 21:01 |
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* wizzyrea |
just wanted to see rangi squirm |
| 21:01 |
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wizzyrea |
just once. |
| 21:01 |
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oleonard |
There goes our alternate business model of turning Koha into OKCupid |
| 21:02 |
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rangi |
heh |
| 21:02 |
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Space_Librarian |
wizzyrea, you're evil. I like it |
| 21:02 |
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* wizzyrea |
waves her arms "Just kidding! Really!" |
| 21:04 |
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Space_Librarian |
;) |
| 21:06 |
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oleonard |
Why do some scripts have "use warnings;" and others have "#use warnings; FIXME - Bug 2505" ? |
| 21:07 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2505 major, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , enable Perl warnings in all modules and scripts |
| 21:07 |
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jcamins |
oleonard: 'cause there are warnings in those scripts. |
| 21:07 |
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sekjal |
back |
| 21:07 |
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oleonard |
jcamins: You mean there are warning in the scripts where the line isn't commented out? |
| 21:08 |
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rangi |
it means someone needs to uncomment use warnings |
| 21:08 |
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jcamins |
oleonard: no, there are warnings in the scripts where the line *is* commented out. |
| 21:08 |
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rangi |
and fix all the use of initialized variables |
| 21:08 |
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jcamins |
That should have been fixed but weren't. |
| 21:08 |
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rangi |
that suddenly start occuring |
| 21:09 |
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oleonard |
So "use warnings" is correct, the comment was added to remind people to fix that file |
| 21:09 |
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rangi |
donovan from work |
| 21:10 |
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rangi |
went through every file |
| 21:10 |
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rangi |
that didnt have use warnings |
| 21:10 |
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rangi |
and added that |
| 21:10 |
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rangi |
then fixed a few too, and uncommented |
| 21:10 |
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rangi |
but lots more to do |
| 21:10 |
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rangi |
he added that |
| 21:10 |
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rangi |
so you can grep "Bug 2505" |
| 21:10 |
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rangi |
to find them |
| 21:11 |
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jcamins |
oleonard: right. |
| 21:11 |
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oleonard |
Another basic question: Why do we still have scripts say stuff like 'template_name => "opac-user.tmpl",' when that obviously doesn't mean anything anymore? |
| 21:12 |
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* jcamins |
has often wondered that. |
| 21:12 |
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rangi |
it gets changed to .tt by the C4::Templates |
| 21:12 |
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oleonard |
Okay, so it really does mean something to Koha |
| 21:12 |
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rangi |
it allowed use to migrate and have |
| 21:12 |
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rangi |
things not explode in a huge heap |
| 21:12 |
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rangi |
but feel free to change it to .tt |
| 21:12 |
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rangi |
on any scripts you touch |
| 21:13 |
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rangi |
now the change is all complete that should be safe |
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| 21:15 |
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rangi |
(it meant you could togggle between C4/Output and .tmpl and C4/Templates and .tt without having to change every single script) |
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| 21:16 |
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jcamins |
Hm. Maybe we should make a mass change, because that does confuse people. |
| 21:16 |
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rangi |
yup, eventually i will kill all template->param too |
| 21:16 |
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rangi |
but thats harder |
| 21:18 |
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* oleonard |
wonders why line 4673 of updatedatabase.pl says "$DBversion = "3.07.00.013"; #FIXME" |
| 21:18 |
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* jcamins |
wondered that as well. |
| 21:19 |
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rangi |
no idea about that one |
| 21:19 |
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rangi |
after my time :) |
| 21:19 |
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oleonard |
Maybe someone thought that the "XXX" required the #FIXME comment? |
| 21:19 |
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jcamins |
Yeah, probably. |
| 21:25 |
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sekjal |
bug 7551 passed QA |
| 21:25 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7551 blocker, P1 - high, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Any logged-in OPAC user can renew items for others using a properly constructed URL |
| 21:26 |
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oleonard |
Thanks sekjal |
| 21:31 |
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* oleonard |
will submit a patch for Bug 3516 after crossing some T's tomorrow morning |
| 21:31 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3516 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Display picture of patrons in OPAC |
| 21:31 |
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oleonard |
Until then, bye #koha |
| 21:31 |
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rangi |
cya oleonard |
| 21:34 |
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sekjal |
scanned the opac for other security risks like 7551; no others detected |
| 21:35 |
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rangi |
thanks sekjal |
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| 21:39 |
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smeagol |
Is 'reservenumber' ever going to be added to reserves table? |
| 21:40 |
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rangi |
if you stop chasing rings all the time and write a patch to do it, then yes :) |
| 21:41 |
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smeagol |
haha..me wants it...me neeeeeeeeds it.....!!! |
| 21:42 |
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Space_Librarian |
my precioussssssss. lol |
| 21:43 |
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* Space_Librarian |
is getting endless queries about her elvish tattoo at work again. |
| 21:43 |
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rangi |
heh |
| 21:43 |
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wizzyrea |
endless? |
| 21:43 |
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wizzyrea |
so Space_Librarian, tell us about your tattoo |
| 21:43 |
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* wizzyrea |
waits |
| 21:43 |
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Space_Librarian |
everybody who passes my desk stops and asks. |
| 21:43 |
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Space_Librarian |
it's my name in Quenyan - okay?! Damnit. :p |
| 21:44 |
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Space_Librarian |
maybe I need in in Sindarin that says "stop bothering me" as well... ;) |
| 21:45 |
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rangi |
heh |
| 21:46 |
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rangi |
how about "Go away or i will eat your face" in black speech ? |
| 21:47 |
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Space_Librarian |
ooooh! Now there's one that could be awesome. |
| 21:47 |
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eythian |
https://www.facebook.com/photo[…]1500&l=368788dbe9 <-- Space_Librarian, a friend of mine got this done recently |
| 21:47 |
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eythian |
(don't know if you can see the photo, but you might be able to) |
| 21:48 |
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eythian |
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamai[…]1_939130816_n.jpg <-- this may work better |
| 21:48 |
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Space_Librarian |
*gasp* - now that is something I could live with for the rest of my life... |
| 21:49 |
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eythian |
It's the: "All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost." thing |
| 21:49 |
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ibeardslee |
nice |
| 21:49 |
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eythian |
(that photo is from when it was just done, it probably looks a bit better now) |
| 21:49 |
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Space_Librarian |
That is just... yeah. wow. |
| 21:50 |
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ibeardslee |
trying to find something that has a meaning, and will still have meaning in 10, 20, 30, 40 years time |
| 21:54 |
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Space_Librarian |
ibeardslee all mine do - but yeah, think of things that have stuck with you for the last couple of decades, and probably won't change in the next... |
| 21:55 |
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sekjal |
okay, folks, I'm out for the night. been a blast. |
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smeagol |
I just thought maybe it was in the works.. |
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rangi |
smeagol: i think its is part of the holds rewrite, so id check the bugs related to that |
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smeagol |
aha..thanks, rangi...i thought someone was doing it. i will check. |
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| 22:37 |
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eythian |
http://cclblog.wordpress.com/2[…]rians-get-crabby/ |
| 22:38 |
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wizzyrea |
lulz |
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| 23:04 |
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wizzyrea |
is vewwy quiet |
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| 23:09 |
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Space_Librarian |
awe yuw hunting wabbits? wizzyrea? |
| 23:17 |
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wizzyrea |
shhhh |
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* Space_Librarian |
zips her lips and sits vewwy still |
| 23:32 |
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jcamins_away |
Rabbits? Did someone say rabbits? |
| 23:32 |
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jcamins_away |
Myshkin says yum! |
| 23:33 |
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Space_Librarian |
now if only we had taters... |
| 23:35 |
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wizzyrea |
what's taters precious |
| 23:36 |
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jcamins_away |
Woohoo! My professor really is using Koha in his rare book cataloging course! |
| 23:36 |
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wizzyrea |
nice! |
| 23:39 |
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jcamins_away |
Alas, I don't have enough tomato sauce for pizza. |
| 23:40 |
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Space_Librarian |
boil 'em, mash 'em, put 'em in a stew... |
| 23:40 |
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jcamins_away |
Pizzas? |
| 23:42 |
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wizzyrea |
pheh |
| 23:45 |
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Space_Librarian |
right. chocolate... |
| 23:46 |
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jcamins_away |
Mmmm. Chocolate. |
| 23:46 |
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jcamins_away |
I'm making cookies today. |
| 23:46 |
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jcamins_away |
Or brownies! |
| 23:46 |
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wahanui |
brownies are a lie. |
| 23:46 |
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jcamins_away |
I could make brownies! |
| 23:46 |
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jcamins_away |
My grandmother's oven isn't defective! |
| 23:46 |
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jcamins_away |
Mmmm. Brownies. |
| 23:47 |
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* jcamins_away |
realizes that he doesn't have a pan suitable for baking brownies in. |
| 23:47 |
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jcamins_away |
Aaugh! |
| 23:47 |
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Space_Librarian |
the cake is a lie! |
| 23:48 |
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Space_Librarian |
jcamins_away http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/kitchen/a1aa/ |
| 23:48 |
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jcamins_away |
lol! |
| 23:48 |
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jcamins_away |
Space_Librarian: but aren't the middle brownies tastier? |
| 23:50 |
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jcamins_away |
wizzyrea: what is your stance on middle brownies vs. edge brownies? |
| 23:51 |
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Space_Librarian |
Personally, I like middle brownies. But then, I've never actually had genuine American brownies. |
| 23:52 |
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jcamins_away |
Yayyy!!!! I found a dish I could bake brownies in! :D |
| 23:53 |
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* jcamins_away |
probably shouldn't be allowed around #koha evenings when he's home alone. No work is done, and the entire world is inflicted with a stream-of-consciousness view of his kitchen. |
| 23:58 |
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Space_Librarian |
which I always find entertaining. :) |
| 23:58 |
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wizzyrea |
you know, I don't actually have a preference |
| 23:58 |
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wizzyrea |
regarding brownies |
| 23:58 |
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wizzyrea |
Space_Librarian: we will have to fix that |
| 23:59 |
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* wizzyrea |
has an "edge brownie pan" |
| 23:59 |
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wizzyrea |
it was a gift |
| 23:59 |
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Space_Librarian |
does it work? |
