IRC log for #koha, 2012-01-31

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01:23 iscared hello, it's bart i was a student at the catalyst academy, i just got my ssh key from my other laptop - someone at catalyst helped me set it up - but i cant ssh onto my server from here? firstly is it possible for me to do so? and assuming it is do i need to do something to my ssh key to get it to work :)
01:24 jcamins_away iscared: you need to put the id_rsa and files into .ssh
01:24 jcamins_away Then do chmod -R 600 ~/.ssh
01:25 jcamins_away Chances are the problem is that the permissions are wrong on the files.
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01:29 iscared okay thanks ill try that :)
01:29 jcamins_away You're welcome. What are you working on? :)
01:29 iscared right i think i got told to do that but forgot it on the way home
01:29 iscared ummm nothing right now just setting up my server then i might play with koha widgets or something :)
01:30 jcamins_away iscared: right, I figured you were currently trying to log on to your server. ;)
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01:44 iscared jcamins_away: when i enter the chmod -R... command i get a permission denied error. i may have done the first step wrong could you walk me through it perhaps? :) i tried a few google hits but i cant quite follow them
01:45 jcamins_away Sure.
01:45 jcamins_away Are you logged in as your user?
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01:48 iscared ummm, yeah
01:49 jcamins And you're not using sudo?
01:50 iscared nope
01:50 jcamins Okay.
01:51 jcamins Run: ls ~/.ssh
01:51 jcamins What does that say?
01:52 iscared ls: cannot access /home/bart/.ssh/id_dsa: Permission denied ls: cannot access /home/bart/.ssh/ Permission denied ls: cannot access /home/bart/.ssh/known_hosts: Permission denied id_dsa  known_host
01:54 jcamins Weird!
01:54 jcamins Okay...
01:54 iscared yeah :P
01:54 jcamins chown -R bart:bart .ssh
01:55 eythian sudo ...
01:55 iscared oh right
01:56 iscared okay
01:56 iscared should i ls it again?
01:56 jcamins Yup.
01:57 iscared same message as before :/
01:58 eythian ls -ld ~/.ssh
01:58 jcamins eythian: why does Catalyst use DSA?
01:58 eythian oh
01:58 eythian jcamins: not sure, isn't it default?
01:58 eythian iscared: chmod 700 ~/.ssh
01:58 eythian that should solve it
01:59 jcamins eythian: maybe, I was always told to use -t rsa.
01:59 eythian I apparently use RSA
01:59 eythian I don't think we have any standards on such things.
01:59 jcamins iscared: sorry about that, I forgot that directories need to have +x.
01:59 iscared bart@bart-U30Sd:~$ ls ~/.ssh
01:59 iscared id_dsa  known_hosts
01:59 iscared that seems right aye?
02:00 iscared thankyou :)
02:00 jcamins iscared: yeah, that looks promising.
02:00 jcamins Can you SSH in?
02:01 iscared ill try
02:02 iscared i think that's working, one sec
02:04 mtj iscared:  use the '-vv' arg for ssh, too
02:04 mtj ... eg: 'ssh -vv user@hosts'
02:05 mtj (it makes debugging ssh problems easier)
02:07 iscared okay, just with ssh i got Permission denied (publickey). ill vv it
02:08 eythian that means you're not allowed to log in
02:09 eythian because you don't have the right key perhaps.
02:10 iscared hmm okay, i got the key from another laptop today but perhaps it was taken incorrectly or something, ill try to get in touch with catalyst so i can try get the key
02:10 iscared thanks everyone :)
02:13 eythian well, it may also mean that it's not attempting to use the key
02:13 eythian I don't know why that'd be though
02:13 eythian see what -vvv says I guess
02:15 iscared okay
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02:16 iscared debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey
02:16 iscared debug1: Next authentication method: publickey
02:16 iscared debug1: Trying private key: /home/bart/.ssh/identity
02:16 iscared debug1: Trying private key: /home/bart/.ssh/id_rsa
02:16 iscared debug1: Trying private key: /home/bart/.ssh/id_dsa
02:16 iscared debug2: we did not send a packet, disable method
02:17 iscared debug1: No more authentication methods to try.
02:17 iscared Permission denied (publickey).
02:17 iscared thats the last few lines
02:17 iscared after i -vv
02:18 iscared wait sorry i think that was using .host instead of @host
02:20 iscared OpenSSH_5.3p1 Debian-3ubuntu7, OpenSSL 0.9.8k 25 Mar 2009
02:20 iscared debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config
02:20 iscared debug1: Applying options for *
02:20 iscared debug2: ssh_connect: needpriv 0
02:20 iscared debug1: Connecting to [] port 22.
02:20 iscared debug1: connect to address port 22: Connection timed out
02:21 iscared ssh: connect to host port 22: Connection timed out
02:21 iscared does that help?
02:21 jcamins iscared: you aren't using the right hostname.
02:22 iscared are you sure? sorry i ddint realise, do you know what it is
02:22 jcamins iscared: I do not, but it looks like you're trying to connect to
02:23 jcamins Which is the domain for your e-mail address, but almost certainly not the right machine for your work.
02:23 iscared oh sorry ill try andd get that sorted :) thanks
02:23 eythian yeah, you certainly can't connect to that
02:23 * jcamins suggests bugging eythian.
02:24 * jcamins does it all the time.
02:24 eythian it might be
02:24 eythian but, I'm not sure.
02:24 jcamins Leibniz?
02:24 jcamins Is that a very small machine?
02:24 jcamins :)
02:25 iscared ill try that and get back to you in a second
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02:26 iscared eythian: it said network is unreachable
02:27 eythian Not sure. It worked for me, accessing it internally. I've never really used that, I use the VPN.
02:27 eythian However it doesn't work for me going via the US
02:28 eythian (though, I get connection refused rather than network unreachable)
02:29 eythian I'd probably have a word to the person who set up the keys, for all I know they may have set up a server for this purpose.
02:29 iscared okay thanks :)
02:29 * jcamins tries to install CollectiveAccess.
02:29 rangi its academy something something
02:30 rangi hosted by wheresmyserver
02:30 rangi assuming you paid them to keep it up ;)
02:30 jcamins rangi: the academy is over already?
02:30 jcamins Wow!
02:31 jcamins That was fast.
02:31 rangi or something like that
02:31 rangi yeah, 2 weeks jcamins
02:31 rangi <-- thats someones
02:32 * jcamins watches his cat slide across half the room on his bottom, skidding into the wall before bouncing up onto a foot rest.
02:34 iscared yea im 19, and i can still see the website up buut the server people didnt get back to me, im starting to worry i might have just imagining giving them my email from the website
02:35 jcamins Cats are endlessly entertaining.
02:36 iscared jcamins: haha
02:38 eythian iscared: how long ago did you do that?
02:40 iscared give the wheresmyserver people my email? i thought i did it just as academy ended a week or two ago but i resent it just then incasse im dilusional
02:44 jcamins Grr. Why do people still use centralized version control systems?
02:44 rangi iscared: so you should be ssh then
02:45 rangi is that what you were doing?
02:45 iscared yea i tried that
02:45 iscared ill try again incase
02:45 rangi try with the -vv
02:46 iscared last lines it gives back are
02:46 iscared debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey
02:46 iscared debug1: Next authentication method: publickey
02:46 iscared debug1: Trying private key: /home/bart/.ssh/identity
02:46 iscared debug1: Trying private key: /home/bart/.ssh/id_rsa
02:46 iscared debug1: Trying private key: /home/bart/.ssh/id_dsa
02:46 iscared debug2: we did not send a packet, disable method
02:46 iscared debug1: No more authentication methods to try.
02:46 iscared Permission denied (publickey).
02:46 iscared perhaps the key i got was wrooong
02:46 rangi because it definitely should not be
02:46 rangi what was the ipnumber it was connecting too?
02:46 rangi ?
02:47 iscared oone sec
02:50 iscared when i ssh on to the i[ is
02:51 rangi yeah thats not right
02:51 rangi can you check your /etc/hosts file ?
02:51 rangi oh
02:51 rangi its not
02:51 rangi
02:51 rangi its
02:51 rangi
02:52 rangi . not @
02:52 iscared ive been trying both ill tell u the . error though
02:53 rangi yeah academy19@ will never work thats trying to log in as the academy19 user to some random catalyst server
02:54 iscared its um debug1: Next authentication method: publickey
02:54 iscared debug1: Trying private key: /home/bart/.ssh/identity
02:54 iscared debug1: Trying private key: /home/bart/.ssh/id_rsa
02:54 iscared debug1: Trying private key: /home/bart/.ssh/id_dsa
02:54 iscared debug2: we did not send a packet, disable method
02:54 iscared debug1: No more authentication methods to try.
02:54 iscared Permission denied (publickey).
02:54 iscared its longer that thatt, thats just tje bit at the end
02:54 rangi yup, whats the ipnumber for that, to just check its the right server
02:54 eythian iscared: also include your command line when you paste something, makes it easier to spot what you're doing.
02:55 iscared bart@academy19:~$ ssh -vv
02:55 iscared OpenSSH_5.3p1 Debian-3ubuntu7, OpenSSL 0.9.8k 25 Mar 2009
02:55 iscared debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config
02:55 iscared debug1: Applying options for *
02:55 iscared debug2: ssh_connect: needpriv 0
02:55 iscared debug1: Connecting to [] port 22.
02:55 iscared debug1: Connection established.
02:55 iscared debug1: identity file /home/bart/.ssh/identity type -1
02:55 iscared debug1: identity file /home/bart/.ssh/id_rsa type -1
02:55 iscared debug1: identity file /home/bart/.ssh/id_dsa type -1
02:55 iscared debug1: Remote protocol version 2.0, remote software version OpenSSH_5.3p1 Debian-3ubuntu7
02:56 iscared debug1: match: OpenSSH_5.3p1 Debian-3ubuntu7 pat OpenSSH*
02:56 iscared debug1: Enabling compatibility mode for protocol 2.0
02:56 iscared debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_5.3p1 Debian-3ubuntu7
02:56 iscared debug2: fd 3 setting O_NONBLOCK
02:56 iscared debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent
02:56 iscared debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT received
02:56 iscared debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: diffie-hellman-group-exchange-sha256,diffi​e-hellman-group-exchange-sha1,diffie-hellm​an-group14-sha1,diffie-hellman-group1-sha1
02:56 iscared debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: ssh-rsa,ssh-dss
02:56 iscared debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: aes128-ctr,aes192-ctr,aes256-ctr,arcfour256,arcf​our128,aes128-cbc,3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast128-​cbc,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc,arcfour,
02:56 iscared debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: aes128-ctr,aes192-ctr,aes256-ctr,arcfour256,arcf​our128,aes128-cbc,3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast128-​cbc,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc,arcfour,
02:56 rangi right, so thats at least the right machine that time
02:56 iscared debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: hmac-md5,hmac-sha1,,hmac-ripemd160,,hmac-sha1-96,hmac-md5-96
02:56 iscared debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: hmac-md5,hmac-sha1,,hmac-ripemd160,,hmac-sha1-96,hmac-md5-96
02:56 iscared debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: none,,zlib
02:56 iscared debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: none,,zlib
02:56 iscared debug2: kex_parse_kexinit:
02:56 iscared debug2: kex_parse_kexinit:
02:56 iscared debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: first_kex_follows 0
02:56 iscared debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: reserved 0
02:56 iscared debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: diffie-hellman-group-exchange-sha256,di​ffie-hellman-group-exchange-sha1,diffie
02:56 iscared i cant see a ip
02:56 iscared sorry thats long
02:56 iscared wait hang on
02:56 iscared okay :)
02:56 rangi []
02:56 rangi thats right
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02:57 eythian what is your username on the machine you want to connect to?
02:57 rangi yeah could well just be the wrong key
02:58 mtj iscared: use this for pasting ;) ->
02:58 eythian iscared: make sure you know what username you need to connect as.
02:58 eythian If you have it wrong, you'll get results like this.
02:58 iscared okay well i'll try to arrange a time to come back into catalyst and see if i can re-attempt to get the ssh key off the academy laptop i was using
02:58 pastebot "mtj" at pasted "meep" (1 line) at
02:59 iscared mtj: oh cool
02:59 rangi test logging in with that laptop too, to make sure its the right key :)
03:00 iscared alright :) well i cant do that till atleast tomorrow :) i'll try and get back to you guys later if it works
03:00 mtj rangi++ set up the pastebot
03:00 rangi iscared: good luck :)
03:00 rangi did you see you are famous?
03:01 rangi[…]ary-2012/#academy
03:04 iscared oh that's coool :)
03:05 rangi[…]rer=brief_results
03:06 rangi its even fully catalogued, with an ISSN and everything, so its an official journal publication :)
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03:11 rangi lol
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03:33 AmitG heya bag
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03:59 Judit hi, anyone using the sms sending function in Koha? any advice?
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04:02 Brooke o/
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04:46 cait hi #koha
04:46 Brooke 0/
04:46 cait hi Brooke :)
04:46 Brooke wie geht's?
04:47 Judit es dir
04:47 Judit no?
04:47 wahanui it has been said that no is failing unit tests
04:48 cait all ok
04:48 cait busy :)
04:48 cait and how are you?
04:48 Brooke good enough for gummint woik
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04:49 cait oh new job?
04:49 wahanui new job is probably a *lot* of information *real* fast.
04:50 Brooke I wish
04:50 Brooke nope
04:50 cait soon :)
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04:58 eythian hi
04:59 Brooke what's up eyth?
04:59 cait hi eythian - go home.
05:00 eythian Brooke: not much, finally expecting to get back onto Koha work tomorrow. Been stolen for something else for this month.
05:00 eythian cait: it's too early for people over there to be up, isn't it?
05:00 Brooke how many times do I have to scold you about improper sheep usage?
05:00 cait come here and find out ;)
05:00 Brooke It's never too early or late for Cait. She's got immunity.
05:00 cait thx Brooke
05:00 * Brooke believes that Cait is secretly a Timelord...
05:01 Judit or just a coffee addict
05:01 cait nah, no coffee for me
05:01 cait ask my friends, they will all tell you the same
05:01 Judit hmm
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05:02 cait :)
05:03 cait more an internet addict probably
05:05 Judit haha so you are getting your caffeine does through an ethernet cable?
05:05 cait lol
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05:47 cait hi AmitG
06:01 rangi Evening
06:02 Judit there is this guy, who decided to cycle across new zealand
06:02 Judit
06:03 cait evening rangi
06:13 eythian Judit: that's pretty common
06:14 eythian surprisingly common, perhaps
06:15 eythian I'm always surprised that someone would do that, anyway
06:15 Judit is it common?
06:15 Judit i love the idea anyway
06:15 eythian I know of a few people that have done it
06:15 Judit have you
06:16 Judit ?
06:18 eythian No
06:18 eythian The most I've done is the central otago rail trail
06:18 eythian but that's only 150km
06:19 rangi paul probably has (paul one of the catalyst directors)
06:19 rangi he does some mad long bike rides
06:20 Judit central otago rail
06:20 Judit sounds good
06:36 AmitG heya cait
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07:50 magnuse kia ora #koha
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08:05 asaurat hi
08:05 wahanui hi, asaurat
08:08 julian_m hello
08:15 hdl hi
08:15 wahanui what's up, hdl
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08:22 gaetan_B hello #koha!
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08:28 paul_p hello #koha
08:29 rangi hi gaetan_B hdl julian_m asaurat and paul_p
08:29 paul_p snow in Provence today (but no snow in Marseille itself)
08:30 paul_p some of us will work from home, some have a meeting with customer, only 6 at BibLibre office today...
08:33 asaurat we see tumbleweeds rolling
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08:55 asaurat did someone here have problems with the script ? it seems that sometimes it doesn't work but I can't tell why yet
08:55 rangi havent run into any problems on any of the sites ive upgraded
08:56 kf we had no errors or problems, so far everything looks good
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09:02 asaurat last week I read here that someone had issues with it, but I can't remember who :/
09:02 kf check the logs .)
09:02 kf irc logs?
09:02 wahanui irc logs are
09:03 asaurat oh nice, didn't know that :D
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09:22 rangi
09:23 rangi that will fix everything
09:24 magnuse yay!
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09:45 magnuse @wunder boo
09:45 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -3.0�C (10:20 AM CET on January 31, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Windchill: -10.0�C. Pressure: 30.77 in 1042 hPa (Steady).
09:45 magnuse @wunder longyearbyen
09:45 huginn` magnuse: Error: No such location could be found.
09:46 magnuse @wunder lyr
09:46 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Svalbard, Norway is 3.0�C (9:50 AM CET on January 31, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Windchill: -1.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
09:46 magnuse that's not right, it can't be!
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10:12 kf magnuse: too warm?
10:12 kf @wunder Konstanz
10:12 huginn` kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 0.0�C (11:00 AM CET on January 31, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: -4.0�C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018 hPa (Falling).
10:12 magnuse spitzbergen is 6 degrees hotter than here - yesterday it was the hottest place in norway
10:13 magnuse that's not how it's supposed to be
10:13 magnuse @wunder rrs
10:13 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Roros Lufthavn, Norway is -25.0�C (10:50 AM CET on January 31, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: -29.0�C. Pressure: 30.71 in 1040 hPa (Steady).
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10:35 Culiforge That looks like fine weather to me
10:35 Culiforge @wunder 49037
10:35 huginn` Culiforge: The current temperature in Battle Creek, Michigan is 6.0�C (4:53 AM EST on January 31, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012 hPa (Rising).
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11:05 paul_p @weather Marseille, France
11:05 huginn` paul_p: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 4.0�C (11:30 AM CET on January 31, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
11:05 Culiforge could someone point me to any documentation for getting my zebra permissions straightened out. I haven't been able to find anything on the wiki.
11:08 Culiforge Or is it possible to reinstall the koha-common package and overwrite permissions to default?
11:15 kf you can do a chown on the whole directory I think
11:15 kf not sure where it lives for the packages, - magnuse might now
11:16 magnuse hm, the packages should take care of the permissions automatically
11:18 Culiforge I like should... I'll give it a go then. Thanks kf and magnuse
11:19 magnuse Culiforge: what's your problem?
11:21 Culiforge well.... in the course of trying to get koha installed and running, I tried a few different methods unsuccessfully. Even with the uninstall info for each of those methods it seems there's still some ghosts left behind and my zebra won't run right.
11:21 magnuse ah
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11:23 magnuse when you install with the packages you do everything as root/sudo, so i'd think that would get rid of any ghosts
11:23 magnuse sudo?
11:23 wahanui sudo is just so people wont rm -rfrandom stuff
11:23 magnuse sudo is
11:23 magnuse sudo?
11:23 wahanui rumour has it sudo is just so people wont rm -rfrandom stuff
11:23 magnuse sudo?
11:23 wahanui i think sudo is just so people wont rm -rfrandom stuff
11:24 magnuse sudo is at
11:24 kf sudo is also
11:24 wahanui okay, kf.
11:24 kf sudo?
11:24 wahanui sudo is just so people wont rm -rfrandom stuff or
11:24 magnuse ah, thanks
11:32 Culiforge Man I love xkcd
11:32 * magnuse too
11:32 Culiforge So relevant
11:37 Culiforge magnuse: would you recommend apt-get install --reinstall or dpkg-reconfigure?
11:38 magnuse ooh, i dunno, sorry
11:38 magnuse never had to do that...
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11:57 Culiforge magnuse: ok, that went smoothly but I'm still not searchable. Zebra log is filled with: 'library-koha-zebra: terminating too quickly, waiting 30 seconds'
11:58 magnuse you called your instance "library"?
11:58 magnuse what happens if you do this:
11:58 Culiforge yeah this is a test installation... is there a problem with that name.. syntax wise?
11:58 magnuse sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v library
11:58 magnuse no, no problem, just wondering so i could use it in the command :-)
11:59 magnuse -f = full reindex, -v = verbose
11:59 Culiforge right.. I should have known to do that after reinstall.. still learning
12:00 magnuse most of us are :-)
12:01 Culiforge yeah, but from what i've seen on #koha, most of you are learning to fix issues with the program, I'm learning to fix things with my own install. :)
12:02 magnuse we all started there, trust me ;-) and we occasionally go back there too...
12:05 Culiforge ok, rebuild done zebra-output.log : [fatal] lock file /var/lock/koha/library/biblios/ [Permission denied]
12:05 Culiforge still permission problems
12:05 magnuse ouch
12:05 magnuse what does "ls -l /var/lock/koha/library/biblios/" say?
12:06 Culiforge -rw-r--r-- 1 gary gary 5 2012-01-30 20:00 /var/lock/koha/library/biblios/
12:07 magnuse hm that should have been library-koha both for the user and the group
12:08 magnuse i wonder what would happen if you did first "sudo koha-remove library" and then created it again?
12:08 Culiforge /var/lock/koha/ is assigned to root
12:09 magnuse same here
12:09 magnuse and then everything below that is owned by <instancename>-koha
12:10 Culiforge shall I remove and recreate library then?
12:10 magnuse might be worth a try
12:11 magnuse i'm assuming you don't mind wiping the db
12:12 Culiforge nah, i've only got 5700 records :)
12:12 magnuse but you've got a backup, right?
12:12 Culiforge yes
12:12 magnuse or the records in a marc file or something?
12:12 magnuse cool
12:12 Culiforge marc
12:13 Culiforge do I sudo the koha-create library or no?
12:13 magnuse yup, always sudo with the koha-* commands
12:14 Culiforge ok, I get the usage blurb...
12:15 Culiforge apparently I need some more information other than sudo koha-create library
12:15 magnuse --create-db
12:16 Culiforge sudo koha--create-db library  like so?
12:16 magnuse sudo koha-create --create-db library
12:18 Culiforge DRAT!!===apache2: Syntax error on line 236 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Could not open configuration file /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/library: Permission denied
12:18 Culiforge!
12:18 Culiforge library was created though from what I see
12:19 magnuse wow, that's weird
12:19 Culiforge normally I like wierd...
12:20 magnuse you might want to check the permissions for /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/library then
12:20 magnuse on my server all the files in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ are owned by root
12:21 Culiforge owned by root group library-koha
12:21 magnuse hm, that's what i have in /etc/apache2/sites-available/
12:21 magnuse try:
12:21 Culiforge maybe a problem with apache config
12:21 Culiforge ?
12:22 magnuse sudo chown root:root /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/library
12:22 magnuse from the error message it looks like the permissions for /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/library is the problem
12:23 Culiforge same error on apache reload
12:23 magnuse did you try "sudo chown root:root /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/library"?
12:24 Culiforge yes, library is now root root
12:24 Culiforge could the enabled site be old and I need to reenable from the available sites?
12:25 magnuse sounds unlikely, but might be worth a try
12:26 magnuse "ls -l /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/library" should tell you what library is linked to
12:26 magnuse is it linked to /etc/apache2/sites-available/library
12:26 magnuse ?
12:27 magnuse and if so, what is that file linked to?
12:27 Culiforge lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 2012-01-31 07:16 /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/library -> ../sites-available/library
12:27 magnuse good
12:27 magnuse and the same for /etc/apache2/sites-available/library ?
12:28 Culiforge sorry, you lost me there
12:28 magnuse moahaha ;-)
12:28 magnuse what does "ls -l /etc/apache2/sites-available/library"
12:28 magnuse ...tell you?
12:29 Culiforge ls -l /etc/apache2/sites-available/library
12:29 Culiforge -rw-r----- 1 root root 989 2012-01-31 07:16 /etc/apache2/sites-available/library
12:30 magnuse hm, for me they look like this:
12:30 magnuse -rw-r----- 1 root esme-koha        974 Aug  9 15:34 esme
12:31 Culiforge and esme-koha is your library correct?
12:31 magnuse try "sudo chown root:library-koha /etc/apache2/sites-available/library"
12:31 magnuse yup
12:31 magnuse esme = library for you
12:31 magnuse then try to reload apache and see if you still get the same error
12:32 magnuse i don't think that last chown should affect anything, but...
12:32 Culiforge yup error still
12:32 magnuse gah
12:32 magnuse same error too?
12:32 Culiforge yes
12:33 magnuse i'm runing out of ideas, then...
12:33 magnuse is wiping the machine and installing the os from scratch an option?
12:34 Culiforge hmmm, I do have to move to fedora sometime soon... but.. ah.. no
12:34 magnuse ok
12:34 magnuse last thing i can think of:
12:34 magnuse remove library again with
12:34 magnuse sudo koha-remove library
12:35 magnuse then create a new instance with another name
12:35 Culiforge ok
12:35 magnuse sudo koha-create --create-db library2
12:35 Culiforge oooh, tricky
12:35 mtj sudo chmod 777  /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/library
12:36 mtj then, apache2ctl restart
12:36 Culiforge library or library2?
12:36 mtj either/or
12:36 magnuse Culiforge: anything, as long as it's NOT library
12:37 magnuse mtj: permissions are already lrwxrwxrwx?
12:37 Culiforge confused: you sent sudo chmod 777  /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/library and said NOT library...
12:38 mtj um, replace $LIBRARY with what ever your file is called?
12:38 mtj ?what ever that is?
12:39 magnuse Culiforge: i meant "sudo koha-create --create-db <anything else than 'library'>"
12:40 mtj if apache has a permission problem with *a* file, fix the perms on than file
12:40 Culiforge got that, created library2, so use library2 in chmod statement?
12:40 magnuse shouldn't have to
12:40 mtj so... "Could not open configuration file /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/library: Permission denied"
12:41 mtj $ sudo chmod 777 /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/library
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12:41 magnuse kia ora jwagner
12:41 mtj magnuse: sure - i know that :) , but its the quickest way to get apache working
12:42 Culiforge no such file or directory
12:42 jwagner Hi magnuse!
12:42 Culiforge because we just removed library
12:42 Culiforge right?
12:42 mtj ... or at least, find the next problem, after that perm one
12:42 magnuse Culiforge: you did "sudo koha-remove library"?
12:43 Culiforge magnuse: yes
12:43 mtj Culiforge: pass? you are doing the typing on your box, not me  :)
12:43 magnuse yeah, /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/library should not exist then
12:43 Culiforge magnuse: correct
12:44 magnuse it would be interesting to see if you succeed with creating an instance with another name than "library"...
12:45 Culiforge /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/library2 is there
12:45 magnuse there might be some files with strange permissions hanging about that interferes with that name
12:45 Culiforge reload apache2 with library2 present fails too
12:46 magnuse what's the error+
12:46 magnuse ?, not +
12:46 Culiforge Syntax error on line 236 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Could not open configuration file /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/library2: Permission denied
12:46 magnuse i'm out of ideas, and i gotta run, sorry
12:46 magnuse good luck! ;-)
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12:47 Culiforge yeah, me too, thanks for the help magnuse
12:47 mtj $ sudo chmod 777  /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/library2
12:47 mtj $ sudo apache2ctl restart
12:48 mtj yawwnnnnzzzZZ - i'm  heading to bed, too
12:48 Culiforge mtj: no output, no errors
12:48 mtj ciao all
12:48 Culiforge thx mtj
12:49 mtj fyi, the bad news is your library2 file is wide open, read-write for all :/
12:49 Culiforge not really an issue at the moment.. thank you sleep well
12:49 mtj ... so that is a security issue you need to fix, some other time soon
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12:50 mtj (but, you can fix that after you get your Koha up and running)
12:50 mtj no probs :) , cya
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13:56 magnus_afk @later tell Culiforg: i wonder if you have the right flavour of apache - the packages require something called apache2-mpm-itk - it's just a hunch, but maybe that could explain the permissions-thing
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13:58 magnus_afk @later tell Culiforg: try "dpkg --get-selections | grep apache" and see what you get
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14:19 kf asaurat++
14:19 kf for log cleaning :)
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14:25 asaurat I love that :D
14:25 kf the karma? or the log cleaning? :)
14:25 asaurat both ;)
14:26 kf the acq pages still produce a lot of warns
14:26 kf orderreceive is another candidate I think
14:26 asaurat I created another bug like this just before
14:26 kf I looked at some of them, but was not sure how to fix
14:26 asaurat maybe you can help on the last I reported
14:26 kf with authorisedby you have to be extra careful
14:26 asaurat bug 7480
14:26 huginn` Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7480 trivial, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, ASSIGNED , authorisedbyname filled twice in
14:28 kf because it should not break when the staff user is deleted
14:28 kf we had problems with that on other pages
14:28 kf needs a fall back
14:29 asaurat but it that's used for staff members, why is there a line feeding it with borrower informations?
14:29 kf staffs are borrowers :)
14:30 kf authorisedby is the staff member who created the basket I think
14:30 kf let me check
14:30 kf yep
14:30 kf it gets the name of the staff member
14:31 kf hmm
14:31 asaurat ok, but it gets 2 values
14:31 kf yeah
14:31 kf yould it be one is realted to suggestions
14:31 kf and one to the basket?
14:33 asaurat There can be only one!
14:33 asaurat :D
14:33 kf lol
14:33 kf not sure highlander will help us here :P
14:34 asaurat I'm sure he would cut one of them without thinking twice about it
14:34 kf probably
14:34 kf but I wonder how this was supposed to work
14:34 asaurat well, I can't choose myself, I don't know this part well enough
14:34 asaurat so, I hope a few people will take a look 0:-)
14:35 kf authorisedbyname     => $basket->{'authorisedbyname'}, comes from getBasket
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14:35 magnus_afk hiya talljoy
14:36 kf[…]C4/
14:36 kf asaurat: I think both is the same
14:36 kf getBasket buildds authorisedbyname using  concat( b.firstname,' ',b.surname) AS authorisedbyname,
14:36 kf from borrowers
14:37 kf and it still should fall back to something if it can't resolve the name,not sure what would happen then
14:37 kf if the borrower number is no longer in borrowers
14:37 asaurat ok thx I'll add a note to remember that
14:38 kf so I think you can delete that line: authorisedbyname => $borrower->{'firstname'} . " " . $borrower->{'surname'}, becauseshould be the same
14:38 talljoy hi magnus_afk
14:38 kf but testing required :)
14:38 talljoy good morning koha!
14:38 kf good morning talljoy!
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14:55 wwwalker did you have much luck installing koha on debian squeeze?
14:57 magnuse wwwalker: that's probably the easiest distro to install it on
14:57 magnuse especially if you use the packages: sudo apt-get install koha-common
14:58 magnuse (after changing a couple of things)
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15:03 wwwalker ok
15:05 magnuse packages?
15:05 wahanui package info is at[…]on_Debian_Squeeze
15:05 magnuse ^^ has the info on how to install with debian packages
15:05 wwwalker I used an earlier version of Debian first and many packages broke
15:06 wwwalker then got debian squeeze and it installed - some DHCP etc needed fixing to download the libraries to debian
15:06 magnuse yeah, you need squeeze, all tha packages should work there
15:06 wwwalker used windows PC with 3G to get link so had to setup DHCP on Windows to feed to Linux machine using ethernet - all a bit tricky
15:09 wwwalker I couldn't get Koha admin password to work so couldn't configure koha
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15:09 wwwalker some obscure file for koha admin password - XML?
15:09 Guest990 the koha admin password is kept in koha-conf.xml
15:09 Guest990 it's usually in /etc/koha
15:09 Guest990 but can be in ~/koha-dev/etc
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15:09 wwwalker ok
15:10 wizzyrea also, the koha admin password is the same as the password you used when you set up the koha database
15:10 wizzyrea so if you have the mysql user/password
15:10 wizzyrea that is the koha admin user/password
15:10 skushner Hi all...what would the command be to convert a .tmpl file to .tt with is that even possible?
15:10 wizzyrea skushner: that is possible, I think it's on the wiki sec
15:11 wizzyrea v
15:11 wizzyrea CS25-NWTRPNMKPFZP
15:11 wwwalker good
15:11 wizzyrea ha, no idea what that is
15:11 wizzyrea but it's not the url
15:11 wizzyrea
15:11 wahanui is all css too
15:11 wizzyrea[…]translation_tools
15:11 wizzyrea there
15:11 * magnuse is impressed if that is the password for something ;-)
15:11 wizzyrea that's what I meant
15:11 wizzyrea no, I'm pretty sure it's not... however, what it *is*, i'm not sure about ...
15:12 wizzyrea leftover from last week I guess
15:12 magnuse hehe
15:12 wizzyrea also this
15:12 wizzyrea wtf lol
15:12 kf asaurat: still around?
15:12 wizzyrea[…]late_toolkit_test
15:13 magnuse yeah, nexpress has *the* coolest atalog
15:13 asaurat still around, but I wasn't reading
15:13 wizzyrea dunno about the coolest, but it's pretty :)
15:13 kf asaurat: for bug 7481: use the filter on the left side to limit on one vendor and click check all / uncheck all on the top - I built it - I know it's there
15:13 huginn` Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7481 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, ASSIGNED , Select all/Deselect all on the late orders list (Claim order button)
15:14 kf I think if you want one for more vendors at once, it will get a bit more difficult to generate the mails perhaps - but would still be nice
15:14 wizzyrea oh, kf re 7327
15:14 wizzyrea bug 7327
15:14 huginn` Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7327 normal, P5 - low, ---, aleksa, Needs Signoff , Translation script doesn't like concatenated javascript strings
15:15 kf I was looking at this this morning
15:15 wizzyrea Ii was looking at that yesterday - what do I need to do to test it?
15:15 kf heh :)
15:15 kf basically, apply patch
15:15 kf then
15:15 asaurat kf: ok I see it, thx! I'll see how it's done, but indeed it would be probably useful to have this for the full list
15:15 kf asaurat: at the moment the full list prevents you from selecting orders from different vnedors
15:15 kf using quite nice javascript
15:16 kf so perhaps not so easy to do
15:16 asaurat oh :/
15:16 kf the uncheck/check all was a follow I did to the original feature - not sure the library has it?
15:16 kf depends on version perhaps
15:16 kf it's on master now
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15:17 kf wizzyrea: go to misc/translator - run perl translate update <your language of choice> check po file contains example and nothing looks weird - run perl translate install <your langauge of choice> test test test :)
15:17 asaurat kf: ok, well, I was reporting a customer need, but maybe the patch you made would be enough, I'll ask
15:17 wizzyrea ok - I think I did that yesterday
15:18 wizzyrea i wonder if the alert I was looking at didn't have a translation.
15:18 wizzyrea cataloging -> edit -> delete all
15:18 wizzyrea which I think was your example
15:18 kf if you haven't translate it in the po file
15:18 kf it will still be
15:18 wizzyrea OH ah okies
15:18 kf :)
15:18 wizzyrea i need software for that eh
15:19 kf poedit
15:19 kf or
15:19 kf open the file in text editor
15:19 kf and search for the string
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15:19 wizzyrea poedit - that's the one I was looking for
15:19 wizzyrea s/looking for/thinking of
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15:27 paul_p wizzyrea & kf my sandbox system is ready ! if one of can take a few minuts to give it a try...
15:27 wizzyrea oh me, me, pick me
15:28 * wizzyrea waves her hand in the air
15:28 paul_p wizzyrea you win..
15:28 kf lol
15:28 kf I have no time - perhaps tonight or later this week
15:28 paul_p Just one link : Hopefully, it's enough.
15:28 paul_p wizzyrea just one information for your tests : only test1 and test5 are ready
15:29 wizzyrea k
15:29 paul_p (if it's OK, i'll deploy on other tests, I need about 15mn on each server)
15:29 * wizzyrea claims number 1
15:30 paul_p wizzyrea feel free to update the wiki page if there's some incorrect english or some information missing
15:30 paul_p wizzyrea you should read the wiki page before claiming #1 ;-)
15:30 wizzyrea you got it :)
15:30 skushner Actually found it here..   http://lists.koha-community.or[…]April/035416.html
15:30 skushner but thanks Liz
15:30 wizzyrea good
15:31 paul_p yikes, found a small mistake with the wiki page. Updated info about what is in test5. wizzyrea pls F5 the page
15:31 wizzyrea is np :)
15:31 wizzyrea oh, I should claim #5 lol :)
15:31 * wizzyrea claims number 5
15:32 wizzyrea where is the form? I don't see the URL
15:32 wizzyrea 1,0my.koha.server/cgi-bin/koha/ is the only one I see
15:32 talljoy hi koha.  I'm trying to find the LostItem module that the script references.  Script fails to finish and claims LostItem (line 157) is an undefined subroutine.
15:33 paul_p wizzyrea look at the end of the page
15:33 paul_p Existing sandboxes
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15:33 wizzyrea oh I see. :)
15:34 wizzyrea I didn't quite understand - frenchism suspected. :)
15:34 wizzyrea or it could be the cold I've got.
15:35 wizzyrea more likely that, actually.
15:35 wizzyrea I like what you did with the news
15:36 wizzyrea this illustrates very nicely why commit messages should have test plans in them.
15:36 kf or general information about what it does :)
15:36 wizzyrea yea
15:44 wizzyrea interesting - it looks like we put the name of the patron in the title of OPAC user pages?
15:44 wizzyrea and that gets passed to any, say, statistics keeping
15:44 wizzyrea software
15:44 wahanui rumour has it software is wrong, not the people >.>
15:44 wizzyrea so
15:44 wizzyrea we have personally identifiable information being passed around?
15:44 wizzyrea surely that runs afoul of somebody's privacy laws.
15:45 wizzyrea "library home for <name>"
15:48 magnuse good point, wizzyrea
15:49 magnuse that's why i thought maybe we should have piwik-integration that only includes the tracking on public pages...
15:50 wizzyrea well it wouldn't be a problem if we left off the name
15:50 wizzyrea i'm looking at chrome - I don't even *see* the title anywhere
15:50 wizzyrea so it's kind of pointless to have it on there.
15:50 wizzyrea or at least, in that form
15:52 magnuse +1
15:53 wizzyrea seeing *where* they are going is not the same as knowing both who *and* where they are going
15:56 magnuse true
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16:13 collsk12 Could someone help me diagnose this error message? "Upload failed -- unable to store file on server" I'm trying to stage some MARC records.
16:14 wizzyrea sounds like possibly the file is exceeding some limit?
16:14 wizzyrea are the apache logs of any help/
16:14 wizzyrea ?
16:16 collsk12 wizzyrea: Nah...apache logs are pretty clear
16:16 wizzyrea how about the koha logs?
16:18 collsk12 wizzyrea: Clean
16:18 wizzyrea hm, permissions?
16:18 wahanui permissions are already lrwxrwxrwx?
16:18 wizzyrea forget permissions, wahanui
16:18 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot permissions
16:18 jcamins_away collsk12: how large a file?
16:19 collsk12 jcamins_away: 21.8 MB
16:19 jcamins_away That's pretty big.
16:19 jcamins_away That's probably the problem.
16:19 jcamins_away Can you upload a small one?
16:19 wizzyrea yea my thought was that it was bumping up against some apache limit
16:20 collsk12 I'll give it a shot! Thanks.
16:21 collsk12 I just tried a 1.22 MB upload and no joy
16:21 collsk12 which permissions should I be looking at?
16:22 wizzyrea hm, actually now that I'm thinking about it.
16:22 jcamins_away The permissions on /tmp
16:22 wizzyrea what version of koha ar you using?
16:23 wizzyrea and did you change something that made it stop working?
16:23 collsk12 wizzyrea: not that I know of
16:24 collsk12 the /tmp folder permissions are drwxrwxrwt
16:24 wizzyrea no updates, no server upgrades
16:25 nengard I'm looking for a bug report that I thought existed - when doing a search for a title with a number in it you get no results
16:26 collsk12 Not that I know of. Koha version is at and it's an up-to-date Debian box.
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16:29 collsk12 Could it help to clean out some older imports?
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16:29 wizzyrea oh
16:29 wizzyrea what does the disk space look like
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16:30 wizzyrea i.e. are you out of it on the partition where /tmp lives?
16:30 collsk12 13% used. It's all on one partition. /tmp is getting kinda big.
16:30 wizzyrea maybe you (as I have done more than once) forgot to set up logrotate
16:31 collsk12 Do you know if I need to set that up manually with the koha-common package?
16:31 wizzyrea I don't think so
16:34 magnuse shouldn't be necessary
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17:40 jenkins_koha * sam-sanders: bug 5327 added unit test for C4/
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17:40 jenkins_koha * reason.koan: Bug 5327 added unit tests for C4/AuthoritiesMarc/
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17:40 huginn` Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5327 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, sam-sanders, Signed Off , Unit tests required for all C4 modules
17:40 jenkins_koha * sam-sanders: Bug 5327 added unit tests for C4/ClassSortRoutine/LCC
17:40 jenkins_koha * reason.koan: Bug 5327 added unit tests for C4/Creators/
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17:40 jenkins_koha * kate.h: Bug 5327 added unit tests for C4/
17:40 jenkins_koha * Bug 5327 added unit tests for C4/
17:40 jenkins_koha * connor.dewar: Bug 5327 Added unit tests for C4/SIP/ILS/Transaction/
17:40 jenkins_koha * sam-sanders: Bug 5327 added tests for C4/
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17:51 jcamins Hi cait.
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17:51 cait hi jcamins :)
17:54 * jcamins decides to go get some lunch.
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17:55 rangi @later tell paul_p looks like the db on jenkins is a bit mixed up ill fix
17:55 huginn` rangi: The operation succeeded.
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17:57 rangi unit_tests++
17:57 cait :)
17:57 rangi academy_students++
17:58 rangi[…]oha.git;a=summary
17:58 cait academy_students++
17:59 rangi ok gotta go get ready for hrmmmbreakfast
18:00 rangi!/search/%23hrmmbreakfast
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18:02 slef Stop ACTA London Protest
18:03 slef Never mind SOPA - shall we do something against ACTA?
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18:21 rangi Yeah acta + tppa spread sopa type stupidity around the world
18:22 rangi Hm full bus today
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18:31 fred_pierre Stow-Munroe Falls Public Library implemented web pages for mobile phone. Koha perl scripts and templates are duplicated in a mobile garden. jQuery mobile powers button-based menus and lists.
18:31 jcamins_away is now known as jcamins
18:32 jcamins Hrmm.
18:32 * jcamins likes the name "hrmm"
18:33 jcamins I don't know what it is, but I wish we had one in New York, so I could say "I'm on my way to hrmm" and confuse people.
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18:34 jcamins fred_pierre: you should share that with the community.
18:34 fred_pierre We use Drupal for our home page, and we perform a detection. If a mobile device is detected, we direct to a mobile main menu in Koha, which allows to Koha login, user account, search catalog, and item detail.
18:35 fred_pierre I would like to share it with the community. Unfortunately, I'm not so great with git. I'm still at Koha 3.5.
18:35 jcamins fred_pierre: at the very least, get the code available somewhere publicly.
18:36 jcamins If someone is working on something similar, maybe they can use some of your code, and help with the porting effort.
18:36 fred_pierre I like it. Should I post it to DropBox or something?
18:36 * jcamins understands there are about five competing "Koha mobile" interfaces, none open sourced.
18:36 jcamins Do you have all your changes in git?
18:37 jcamins If you have all your changes in git (even if you're not sure you have it set up correctly), I'd recommend using gitorious, github, or the other one.
18:37 fred_pierre That's my problem, I'm not sure if I do. I have my git kohaclone directory with all my active files, then I have made modifications.
18:38 jcamins fred_pierre: are the changes in kohaclone?
18:38 francharb` see ya
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18:38 slef can people access the mobile menu manually? Detection always sucks.
18:38 slef And escape from the mobile menu back to the full site.
18:38 fred_pierre The method was to duplicate critical Koha perl scripts and templates, then to edit them down and add jQuery buttons.
18:38 jcamins Ah, yikes!
18:39 fred_pierre I still need to add a button on the home page, in case detection fails. So far we have been detecting most devices, except ipad 1's.
18:39 jcamins It might be worth sticking it up on a non-password-protected folder in dropbox, and e-mailing the list about it.
18:39 fred_pierre Good ideas slef!
18:39 fred_pierre OK jcamins. I will try that.
18:40 jcamins And include in your e-mail a list of features.
18:40 fred_pierre Our website is at (Stow-Munroe Falls Public Library)
18:41 jcamins That way people will know if there's something they'd like to work on getting into Koha proper.
18:41 fred_pierre I will compile the features list and include it.
18:42 rangi Cool
18:45 wizzyrea oh hi, a new, awesome person :)
18:45 rangi Bbiab
18:46 wizzyrea i tried it on my phone over lunch - it's very nice looking
18:46 wizzyrea the mobile interface
18:47 wizzyrea and if it escaped into the wild it would be the 1st to be open sourced.
18:47 wizzyrea (it bears repeating, imo)
18:50 * jcamins agrees.
18:52 fred_pierre Thanks!
18:55 fred_pierre I posted the files to ADrive, under the username - password K0hamobile - not sure how many people can log on at same time, all of the files are only 1.2Mb.
18:55 fred_pierre
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18:56 wizzyrea oo cool
18:56 fred_pierre I am realizing that I used custom logos, colors and footers, if others use it I will have to find a way to set those through the preferences.
18:56 wizzyrea :)
18:57 * wizzyrea gets a bit sentimental about the name "A: Drive"
18:57 wizzyrea oh those halcyon days of corrupted floppy disks
18:58 jcamins wizzyrea: I've seen drive A:s recently.
18:58 fred_pierre My favorite thing about the mobile Koha is that you can search the catalog, find an item and place it on hold - while you are driving to the library! :)
18:58 jcamins Drive B:s, on the other hand.
18:58 wizzyrea :D
18:58 jcamins fred_pierre: provided you're not the one in the driver's seat!
18:58 wizzyrea hehe yea ^^
18:59 wizzyrea I think they ought to resurrect a: drive as microsd or something
18:59 fred_pierre Yes, and that's - I can't find my floppy drive! ;^)
18:59 wizzyrea hehe
18:59 wizzyrea it's mad about max sessions, I'll try later :)
18:59 wizzyrea fred_pierre: do you have a github account?
18:59 wizzyrea or gitorious
19:00 wizzyrea i found it was not too hard to set up
19:00 jcamins Or that other one.
19:00 jcamins That wasn't too hard to set up either.
19:00 * jcamins has all three.
19:00 wizzyrea i don't even know what the other one is lol
19:00 * jcamins either, apparently.
19:00 wizzyrea keke
19:01 jcamins Bitbucket.
19:01 fred_pierre neither a github nor a gitorious account - are those easy to set up (free?)
19:01 cait yes
19:01 cait both are free afaik
19:01 jcamins So's bitbucket.
19:02 wizzyrea they are free and pretty easy - github even has super good help
19:02 wizzyrea idk about gitorious
19:05 fred_pierre cool - would I create a git branch on gitorius and push the mods up?
19:07 wizzyrea yea, exactly
19:07 wizzyrea then give us the address to your repo
19:07 wizzyrea and we can pull it down and look at it
19:07 wizzyrea ezpz
19:08 fred_pierre I like that idea. I've got to go and talk to a library patron. I will check out gitorius and get back to you later this aft.
19:08 wizzyrea cool, lookin forward to it, good luck with the patron :)
19:08 fred_pierre Thanks for your ideas all!
19:09 wizzyrea anytime :)
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19:12 librarygeekadam Good Day. I am back to pester you all and your infinite knowledge of koha. I have uploaded my Marc records and went through the process of importing and the clean. When I search the OPAC, the records say the items are not available. How do I fix this?
19:16 wizzyrea faq?
19:17 wizzyrea oh bother.
19:17 wizzyrea um...
19:17 wizzyrea searching faq?
19:17 wizzyrea bah.
19:17 wizzyrea see #3
19:17 wizzyrea[…]on/faq/searching/
19:17 librarygeekadam thank you
19:17 wizzyrea searching faq is at[…]on/faq/searching/
19:17 wizzyrea now that will work :)
19:18 wizzyrea searching faq?
19:18 wizzyrea !
19:18 * wizzyrea mutters
19:18 jcamins wizzyrea: wahanui's missing.
19:18 wizzyrea indeed.
19:19 wizzyrea @later tell eythian can you bring back our beloved wahanui?
19:19 huginn` wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
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19:28 cait oh again
19:28 cait he already restarted him yesterday
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20:12 rangi back
20:14 cait wb rangi
20:17 rangi thanks :)
20:17 wizzyrea hi thar
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21:20 rangi coffee time
21:25 francharb bed time!
21:25 francharb ;)
21:25 francharb so, hey and bye
21:25 francharb ;)
21:25 rangi cya francharb
21:26 francharb have a good day rangi ;)
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21:47 fred_pierre Hi all! I tried to post my Koha mobile files to gitorious, but I ended up with the original development build that I installed on the server.
21:47 fred_pierre When I look at my local branch it says it is kohasmfpl, the original, but I see it as the kohaclone directory with my updated files.
21:48 fred_pierre My git cola shows some updates, but it does not show any of my mobile updates. I am reading Pro Git, but I just don't get it.
21:49 fred_pierre Do I need to commit my local changes to my branch before pushing to gitorious?
21:49 wizzyrea yep
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21:49 wizzyrea I know it's for github
21:49 wizzyrea but this may help
21:49 wizzyrea
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21:58 space_librarian hello #koha, I have returned! :)
21:58 rangi yay!
21:59 * wizzyrea pounces on space_librarian with big hugs
21:59 mbalmer welcome back, then ;)
21:59 space_librarian Yay wizzyrea! Missed you!
21:59 wizzyrea :D
21:59 mbalmer cait around?
21:59 space_librarian Now to sort something a little better than mibbit....
22:00 kathryn hi space librarian! good to see you this morning!
22:00 wizzyrea i hope cait is in bed.
22:00 cait she is not, but soon
22:00 space_librarian was great to see you too kathryn  - sorry I had to run so quickly
22:00 cait hi space_librarian :)
22:00 mbalmer heh
22:00 space_librarian hey cait !
22:01 cait hi mbalmer - you were looking for me?
22:01 mbalmer just to let you know that things are going comfortable well in .ch.
22:02 mbalmer me not being here so often does not mean anything, we are actually working quite hard.
22:02 cait so you have your test installation running?
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22:03 mbalmer yes.  with all the problems we had.
22:03 mbalmer and we had first talks with possible customers.
22:03 mbalmer we will be fully operational during feb.
22:03 kathryn and hi rest of #koha! : D
22:03 wizzyrea hey kathryn :)
22:04 kathryn hiyee wizzyrea!
22:04 cait hi kathryn
22:04 * kathryn waves at cait
22:04 cait mbalmer: ah cool
22:05 cait so there will be some news soon?
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22:15 space_librarian bbiab...
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22:16 mbalmer will anyone here be at fosdem next weekend?
22:16 rangi not me, too far away
22:18 cait probably closer to me - but won't be there
22:19 eythian hi
22:20 eythian hello wahanui
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22:21 cait hi eythian - thx for bringing back our beloved bot
22:22 eythian any time
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22:24 Space_librarian *sigh. no dice.
22:25 rangi firewall?
22:27 * eythian is finally back in Koha-land
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22:27 eythian time to do some packaging perhaps
22:27 * wizzyrea welcomes eythian warmly
22:28 eythian maybe a meeting first
22:29 cait wb :)
22:30 Space_librarian rangi: not sure. The platform I downloaded just refused to connect to oftc
22:30 Space_librarian welcome back eythian
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22:46 cait night #koha
22:46 cait :)
22:46 SpaceLibrarian night cait !
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23:25 * eythian builds packages
23:25 rangi yay!
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23:37 eythian package building of master fails :( t/Reports.t requires a database connection
23:37 rangi yup
23:38 rangi grab the last patch from 5327
23:38 rangi[…]hment.cgi?id=7400
23:38 rangi you could even sign off on that if you wanted ;)
23:39 eythian OK will take a look
23:39 rangi (its just a git mv :))
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