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jcamins_away |
Hello, New Zealand! |
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jcamins_away |
(and everyone else) |
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chrisdothall |
jcamins_away: hello from nz :) |
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kathryn |
hi jcamins I'll take that as a hi to me too! (I work with chrisdothall and rangi) |
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jcamins |
Hi kathryn. :) |
| 00:53 |
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kathryn |
: ) I'm a little quiet but I'm here! |
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jcamins |
And we're very glad to have you. :) |
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kathryn |
why thank you! maybe I should ask more questions here then I don't have to hassle rangi so much : ) |
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jcamins |
You can hassle rangi on #koha! |
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jcamins |
That's our preferred method. ;) |
| 00:59 |
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kathryn |
true! |
| 01:22 |
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jcamins |
rangi: around? |
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eythian |
he ain't |
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eythian |
well, he's not here anyway |
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jcamins |
Hm. |
| 01:23 |
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jcamins |
I guess the world won't have the benefit of rangi's moderating influence on my tetchy comment. |
| 01:26 |
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jcamins |
So... does that comment make clear that I think this is an issue? |
| 01:28 |
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jcamins |
*important issue |
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eythian |
"this" is not defined: core dumped |
| 01:39 |
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jcamins |
eythian: bug 7359. |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7359 blocker, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , Begin migration to a new "Koha" namespace from the old "C4" namespace |
| 01:40 |
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jcamins |
The fact that every single "regular" 3.6.3 and 3.4.8 install will be broken. |
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eythian |
ah. I might hold off on making the packages for a little while then. |
| 01:42 |
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jcamins |
Yes, please do. |
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jcamins |
Better to have people wondering why there are no packages than wondering why Koha won't work. |
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AmitG |
heya bag |
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* chris_n |
wonders briefly if there is any association between his being disconnected and the last line in the irc buffer including the words "core dumped" :) |
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* rangi |
downgrades the severity of 7359 |
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rangi |
its only 2 pages |
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rangi |
not Koha not working, 2 new features are broken, the rest work fine |
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cait |
ah, so 7359 only affects the new feature? |
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rangi |
yes |
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rangi |
for 929 |
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cait |
right |
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rangi |
it only affects the templates that use that plugin |
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cait |
and easy to workaround I guess? |
| 05:01 |
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rangi |
yep, copy the file |
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cait |
cool |
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cait |
not bad at all then |
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rangi |
still worth pushing |
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cait |
yep |
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AmitG |
hey aBob |
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rangi |
oh is the survey results out? |
| 06:24 |
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rangi |
lol |
| 06:24 |
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rangi |
the old low levels of interest |
| 06:25 |
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rangi |
thats why i never tell anyone to fill in his survey its statistically unsound |
| 06:25 |
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rangi |
and hsis conclusions are always biased against open source |
| 06:27 |
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rangi |
but ouch .. liblime .. bottom or 2nd to bottom on everything |
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rangi |
http://www.librarytechnology.o[…]erceptions2011.pl |
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rangi |
good to see actual koha score really well |
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rangi |
even if marshall seems to interpret that as not well, meh |
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cait |
agreed |
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cait |
not a lot of comments this year |
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rangi |
no |
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rangi |
not too many at all |
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rangi |
pleased to see the 2 catalyst ones who choose to respond said we do good, so im happy with that |
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cait |
:) |
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reiveune |
hello |
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wahanui |
que tal, reiveune |
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cait |
hi reiveune |
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rangi |
hi reiveune |
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reiveune |
hi rangi , cait , everybody :) |
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rangi |
hi laurence |
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laurence |
hi rangi |
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laurence |
hi #koha |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
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wahanui |
hi, alex_a |
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cait |
hi laurence and alex_a |
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rangi |
hi alex_a |
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rangi |
hi paul_p |
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cait |
hi paul_p |
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paul_p |
hello #koha |
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magnuse |
kia ora #koha! |
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rangi |
hi magnuse |
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cait |
morning magnuse |
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magnuse |
hiya cait-not-here-anymore and rangi |
| 07:52 |
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rangi |
heh |
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magnuse |
wassup? |
| 07:53 |
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rangi |
marshalls perceptions report is out |
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rangi |
the numbers look great for koha |
| 07:53 |
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rangi |
not great at all for liblime |
| 07:53 |
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magnuse |
ah, yes i saw you and cait chatting about that earlier |
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rangi |
but somehow the conclusions marshall draws dont reflect the numbers |
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magnuse |
interesting... |
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wahanui |
interesting is good |
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rangi |
but then again .. they never do |
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magnuse |
heh, that's a shame |
| 07:54 |
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magnuse |
i sent it to my kindle, will peruse it later |
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rangi |
cool |
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marcelr |
hi koha |
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magnuse |
hiya marcelr |
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marcelr |
hi magnuse |
| 07:57 |
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marcelr |
rangi? |
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wahanui |
I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS! |
| 07:57 |
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rangi |
yup |
| 07:58 |
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marcelr |
about etc; should it install there? |
| 07:58 |
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magnuse |
cool: http://library.engr.tu.ac.th/ |
| 07:58 |
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rangi |
standard one? |
| 07:58 |
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rangi |
yes |
| 07:58 |
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rangi |
thast where it puts the koha-conf.xml |
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marcelr |
did not do that long time |
| 07:59 |
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rangi |
well thats if you just hit return at the defaults |
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* rangi |
does another one |
| 08:00 |
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rangi |
(ive done 2 today but very rarely do them now im not RM, since i use the packages, i used to do them as part of the release tho) |
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marcelr |
ok |
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julian_m |
hello |
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rangi |
yep, hitting enter |
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marcelr |
hi julian_m |
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julian_m |
hi marcelr, hi rangi |
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rangi |
$(KOHA_INST_KOHA_CONF_DIR) $(KOHA_DEST_KOHA_CONF_DIR) |
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magnuse |
wow, those are seriously long item types... http://library.engr.tu.ac.th/c[…]pl?biblionumber=3 |
| 08:03 |
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rangi |
goes to |
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rangi |
OHA_DEST_KOHA_CONF_DIR = $(DESTDIR)/etc/koha |
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rangi |
and DESTDIR = |
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marcelr |
yes? |
| 08:04 |
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rangi |
so yeah, /etc/koha is where it will go |
| 08:04 |
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marcelr |
but you cant change it |
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rangi |
KOHA_DEST_INTRANET_CGI_DIR = $(DESTDIR)/usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin |
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rangi |
yep |
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rangi |
its always been like that for a standard install |
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magnuse |
wb cait |
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rangi |
but thats totally separate to the new problem of the Makefile.PL ignoring hte Koha dir |
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asaurat |
hello |
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rangi |
hi asaurat hdl and gaetan_B |
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marcelr |
rangi: yes |
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marcelr |
hi asaurat |
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hdl |
hi rangi |
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gaetan_B |
hello #koha :) |
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marcelr |
hi gaetan_B |
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rangi |
marcelr++ # thanks for the quick qa |
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marcelr |
np |
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cait_ |
hi all |
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magnuse |
hi cait_ |
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marcelr |
hi cait |
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magnuse |
hi kf |
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rangi |
hi kf |
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kf |
no back for real |
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magnuse |
woohoo! ;-) |
| 08:28 |
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marcelr |
real? |
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kf |
was testing a new irc client on phone earlier |
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kf |
and s/no/now/ |
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marcelr |
;) |
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francharb |
hi |
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wahanui |
bonjour, francharb |
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kf |
hi francharb :) |
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sophie_m |
hello #koha |
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rangi |
hiy francharb and sophie_m |
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sophie_m |
hi rangi |
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francharb |
hi kf rangi |
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kf |
bonjour sophie_m :) |
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sophie_m |
Guten Tag kf |
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marcelr |
hi sophie_m and francharb |
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marcelr |
could anyone of you reproduce the problem of bug 3264 (comment 10) ? takes a minute or two .. |
| 08:53 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3264 critical, P1 - high, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , UnCloneField() / minus button in MARC editor can clear all subfields (authorities AND biblio) |
| 09:19 |
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rangi |
marcelr: if no one has by tomorrow ill check on my computer at work, dont have firefox on this one, just chromium |
| 09:20 |
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marcelr |
you could check it there too? |
| 09:20 |
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marcelr |
does not depend on firefox |
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marcelr |
has to do with function in C4 module |
| 09:21 |
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marcelr |
well, thinking further it could be related to browser (order of params and handling empty params) |
| 09:23 |
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rangi |
hmm but jared couldnt reproduce |
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rangi |
even after comment 10 |
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* rangi |
tries |
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rangi |
hmm i cant recreate either i removed the 4 |
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rangi |
and the rest of the 700 stayed there |
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* rangi |
tries making 2 4 subfields |
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rangi |
hmm nope still seems to work fine |
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asaurat |
bug 7455 has to do with this kind of function too |
| 09:30 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7455 normal, P4, ---, adrien.saurat, ASSIGNED , Authority subfields are cloned in the wrong field |
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asaurat |
seems tricky to correct |
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marcelr |
rangi: thanks for testing, have to see which browsers (under which version..) do have this problem |
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marcelr |
bug does depend on not receiving empty params which makes the function stumble over unexpected order |
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* kf |
hands out the duct tape |
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magnuse |
hey, it worked! |
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kf |
heh |
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kf |
lunch time :) |
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druthb |
o/ |
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magnuse |
\o |
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AmitG |
heya druthb |
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druthb |
hi, AmitG. :) |
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druthb |
Two Amits! :) Handy. |
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druthb |
Awr. |
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cul_away |
didn't get a chance to resolve this yesterday... unable to search in staff or opac. zebra appears to be running: 19694 0.0 0.1 3376 804 pts/0 S+ 06:53 0:00 grep --color=auto zebra. Also seems that zebra is not auto starting. |
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kohaLIB |
Hi all... |
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kf |
hi kohaLIB |
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kohaLIB |
I have installed Koha on port Interanet 8000 & OPAC 8001...... now need to change this with 8090 & 8091 please guide me in which files i want to update |
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kohaLIB |
hello, kf: |
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AmitG |
heya kohaLIB |
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Culiforge |
hello all |
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Culiforge |
koha-restart-zebra 'instance' only gives me help file what am I not doing right? |
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kohaLIB |
need to change Listen port 8000 & 8001 with 8090 & 8091.... please guide the right procedure? |
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AmitG |
change in your koha-httpd.conf file |
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wahanui |
AmitG: that doesn't look right |
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AmitG |
heya wahanui |
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kohaLIB |
AmitG: i hv altered in koha-httpd.conf but getting error "page not found" |
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AmitG |
what error? |
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kf |
Culiforge: perhaps without the '' ? |
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kf |
kohaLIB: you will also need to change in your apache configuration I think |
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Culiforge |
I simply put that as a placeholder for my instance |
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Culiforge |
koha-restart-zebra library is actual |
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kf |
Culiforge: not sure then, what does the help say? |
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Culiforge |
just the syntax list for daemon commands.. same as if I had typed -h |
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kf |
kohaLIB: ports.conf ? |
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kf |
but does not tell you whats wrong? |
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kf |
Culiforge: sorry, I am not a package expert - perhaps someone else will know a bit later |
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kohaLIB |
kf: u mean add "Listen 8090" "Listen 8091" in ports.conf |
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kf |
yes |
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kf |
and restarting apache |
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Culiforge |
Restarting Zebra server for library / Invalid option: __user (only works for root) / usage: daemon [options] [cmd arg...] / options: |
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kf |
hm |
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kf |
perhaps permissions? |
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Culiforge |
kf: ran as sudo and as root, same result |
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kf |
sorry out of ideas |
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Culiforge |
kf: np, i'll keep poking around |
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kohaLIB |
kf: thanks buddy... it's work |
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kohaLIB |
kf: no any other change require?? |
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kohaLIB |
kf: thanks for your guidance |
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Culiforge |
aha! kf: you are correct... permissions. but why are all my permissions locked to root user? Because I had to run this to get zebra running: sudo -uroot zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/sites/library/koha-conf.xml |
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kf |
hm |
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kf |
that does not seem right to me |
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kf |
all zebra files should be owned by your koha user |
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kf |
and starting zebrasrv should work without sudo |
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jcamins_away |
Culiforge: don't use -uroot |
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Culiforge |
kf: that's what I was thinking.. |
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jcamins_away |
-ukoha or -ugary depending on which user you're running Koha under. |
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kf |
good morning jcamins_away :) |
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Culiforge |
jcamins: I tried -ugary and -ukoha.. no permissions |
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jcamins_away |
Culiforge: you need to change the permissions to whichever user you're uins.g |
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jcamins_away |
*using |
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jcamins_away |
Good morning. |
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kf |
jcamins++ |
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marcelr |
hi jcamins |
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marcelr |
? |
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Culiforge |
jcamins: right. but i'm just wondering why all those files are set to root. I'll fiddle with it at work today.. gotta get ready. Good morning #koha and goodbye for now. |
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jcamins_away |
cul_away: it's because you ran it as root once. |
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jcamins_away |
marcelr: good morning. |
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marcelr |
hi |
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wahanui |
bonjour, marcelr |
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marcelr |
jcamins: you tested a lot os |
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cul_away |
jcamins: so running as root resets all permissions? |
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jcamins_away |
marcelr: yeah, I may have gone a bit overboard. |
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jcamins_away |
cul_away: you ran it as root the first time. |
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jcamins_away |
marcelr: I posted a screen capture on the bug. |
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kf |
jcamins++ for helping me translate manuscript english |
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marcelr |
saw it; looks ;like what i did with another result?? |
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marcelr |
thinking about preferences or other things that may affect this.. |
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jcamins_away |
Yeah, I'm not sure which could have an impact, though. |
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marcelr |
very strange.. |
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oleonard |
"Summaries of replacement candidates for libraries indicating they are considering migrating to a new ILS: Innovative Interfaces Sierra 88, Evergreen 87, Koha 74" |
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oleonard |
And yet, "low levels of interest in migrating to an open source ILS" ?! |
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kf |
oleonard: yes, it's not right |
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kf |
I don't see how he comes to this conclusion from the numbers |
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* oleonard |
wonders why someone just added themselves to the CC list on Bug 1293 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1293 normal, P2, ---, chris, RESOLVED MOVED, Database installation problem |
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kf |
confusing bug numbers? |
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oleonard |
Marshall responds on Twitter, "It does seem ironic that the scores for the open source question are low, but open source replacements are frequently given." |
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oleonard |
What a cop-out. |
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magnuse |
so when libraries are asked "are you planning on migrating to a FLOSS ILS" they say no, and when they are asked what systems they plan to migrate to they say koha and evergeen? makes perfect sense to me... |
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Sounds like the libraries for whom the open-source angle is not a big part of their decision. These are the ones that, when you start talking about FLOSS, say, "yes, yes, that's nice...now, does it *work*?" |
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magnuse |
:-) |
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oleonard |
And yet he chooses to base his conclusion on one data point which is directly contradicted by another. |
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* druthb |
, having met Marshall in-person, refrains from coloring the conversation with her own opinions...but she is unsurprised by the seeming contradiction that oleonard points out. |
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magnuse |
yeah, pointing out the disparity would be much better than drawing a conclusion based on one side of the story |
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oleonard |
If anything it's good news for us: We're competitive on the basis of functionality rather than ideology |
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magnuse |
yay! |
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druthb |
oleonard++ |
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nengard |
amazon question - amazon now requires associate id be filled in - we say in the sys prefs that you sign up at aws.amazon.com but i'm not seeing an associate id there - i think you have to sign up at https://affiliate-program.amazon.com/ for the associate id - can anyone confirm/correct me? |
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oleonard |
Amazon now requires associate id for what? |
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oleonard |
Amazon covers are the only thing that work right now |
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* magnuse |
waves to wizzyrea as she wizzes past... |
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wizzyrea |
hi :) |
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magnuse |
kia ora! |
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kf |
hi wizzyrea :) |
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nengard |
oleonard i thought that they required the associate id for the covers (sorry got sidetracked) |
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nengard |
if not then great! |
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oleonard |
nengard: I don't think so. The template builds a direct link to the image file on Amazon.com |
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nengard |
okey dokey |
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nengard |
good to know |
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nengard |
don't remember where i read that |
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* oleonard |
is very pleased to submit a fix for Bug 3215 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3215 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , It would be nice if "Add to Cart" changed to "Remove from Cart" |
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nengard |
cool |
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magnuse |
oleonard++ |
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oleonard |
Not sure why I suddenly got a bee in my bonnet about that one. |
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pastebot |
"nengard" at 98.114.30.184 pasted "looking for some report help again - anyone around who can help?" (16 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/235 |
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schuster |
Question about command line scripts - I have a couple that I am looking at committing, but being a good citizen am trying to document the correctly. |
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schuster |
I found the guidelines for command line scripts, but my question has more to do with how to insert that information into the .pl |
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schuster |
A programmer here in Plano used =head1 NAME and then put the information describing what it was doing... fancy formating... |
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schuster |
I looked at the rebuild_zebra and it basically did a sub print_usage { and then put all the options there and closed it _USAGE_ } |
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schuster |
is there a preference? or more guidance? |
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kf |
I think the =head is the POD |
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kf |
and you will also want to use something to make it put out the commands when typing -h |
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kf |
I would look at newer scripts and how they do that |
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kf |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ead4f4ff4ea3658da |
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kf |
this is quite new |
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schuster |
Thanks for the response! |
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kf |
yvw |
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kf |
hope it's helpful :) |
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schuster |
Starting in the dark so everything is helpful! |
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schuster |
they used the =head1 NAME configuration as well so I'll go that way! |
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kf |
yes, I think it's called POD (plain old documentation) |
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kf |
http://perldoc.perl.org/perlpod.html |
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nengard |
looking for some report help again - anyone around who can help? (16 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/235 |
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nengard |
kf ^ |
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schuster |
just to clarify they didn't do anything with their collection/location codes to match that? |
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kf |
sorry nengard, no time today |
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jcamins |
schuster: use POD. |
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jcamins |
schuster: I'd like to redo rebuild_zebra to use POD at some point. |
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* magnuse |
would applaud jcamins if he did |
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schuster |
thanks jcamins - and if zebra were to change to the "proposed biblibre" indexing option then it wouldn't be worth it! |
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wizzyrea |
nengard: http://stackoverflow.com/quest[…]ith-like-operator |
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wizzyrea |
may be helpful. |
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nengard |
thanks! |
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jcamins |
schuster: no, it would be worth it. |
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jcamins |
schuster: zebra isn't going anywhere. |
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schuster |
wizzyrea nengard - I was wondering about like that always gets me when I do the truncation |
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kf |
bye all |
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fredericd |
Any MARC21 specialist around? |
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fredericd |
I can see that author fields (100, 70x) may have a $4 subfield |
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jcamins |
fredericd: I'm here. |
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fredericd |
But I don't see that much marc21 biblios using this letter |
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fredericd |
thanks... |
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fredericd |
In Koha, there is no autorized values for this subfield |
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fredericd |
It isn't decoded in XSL |
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fredericd |
Is it a good idea to use $4 at all? |
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jcamins |
Yes, $4 is used for relator trms. |
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jcamins |
Very important for RDA. |
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jcamins |
There's a bug for adding authoirzed values. |
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jcamins |
I just signed off on it. |
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fredericd |
Why is there so few MARC21 biblio records using this field? |
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jcamins |
It's newish. |
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jcamins |
I use it a lot. |
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fredericd |
ok, intersting |
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jcamins |
And other ILSes don't support it either. |
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fredericd |
I'm migrating a catalog from UNIMARC to MARC21, and since in UNIMARC there is an equivalent $4 subfield, and a used one, I'm tempted to use it also in MARC21 |
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jcamins |
Do. |
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jcamins |
$4 will be increasingly important. |
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jcamins |
And Koha will be one of the first ILSes with *good* support for it. |
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jcamins |
It will be wonderful. |
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jcamins |
:) |
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fredericd |
So XSL patch coming... and an authorized values list :-) |
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jcamins |
It's bug... |
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fredericd |
for that: http://www.loc.gov/marc/relators/relacode.html |
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jcamins |
Bug 6299 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6299 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Provide a list of authorized values for relator terms |
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fredericd |
and for XSL anything you are aware of? |
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jcamins |
Not yet. |
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jcamins |
Actually, there was a patch to show that. |
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jcamins |
Bug 5711 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5711 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Distinction between authors/additional authors in opac normal view (MARC21/XSLT) |
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jcamins |
No patch yet. |
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fredericd |
Any reason why this patch hasn't been pushed on master? (6299) |
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jcamins |
Because I just revised it. |
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jcamins |
It failed QA due to some problems. |
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jcamins |
I fixed them. |
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jcamins |
And paul_p wasn't around pushing things this weekend. |
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jcamins |
fredericd: if you have a French translation, that'd be really useful. |
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fredericd |
jcamins++ |
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schuster |
nengard did you get it to work? I'm thinking of another project I have that I could use that information in a different way. |
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fredericd |
jcamins: for the authorized values? |
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jcamins |
fredericd: right. |
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* jcamins |
suspects there's probably an official list. |
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* jcamins |
is not fluent in French, though. |
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fredericd |
For the time beeing there isn't even a translation of MARC default framework |
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jcamins |
Really? |
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jcamins |
Ewww. |
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fredericd |
French canadians seems to have something, but it hasn't been submitted yet as a patch |
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maximep |
working on it =) |
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jcamins |
maximep: while you're at it, you should do the French translation for bug 6299. :) |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6299 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Provide a list of authorized values for relator terms |
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maximep |
aaaaaaaah |
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jcamins |
:) |
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maximep |
already at 40 hours of translations for our upgrade to 3.6 and I have probably 10 hours more to do |
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fredericd |
I've update 6299 to point to the translation into French of relator codes :-) |
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jcamins |
Cool! |
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jcamins |
fredericd++ |
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maximep |
nice |
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nengard_lunch |
schuster not really - well it might work, but i don't have enough info from the library |
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nengard_lunch |
i'll paste my report |
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fredericd |
Ok, I will submit a patch for an relator code authorized values list, in French... |
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jcamins |
Yay! |
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nengard_lunch |
schuster http://paste.koha-community.org/236 |
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jcamins |
fredericd: I had a question about the UNIMARC part of bug 7284. |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements |
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jcamins |
(you revised it) |
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jcamins |
Does it still work (as much as it ever did) when using GRS-1 indexing for UNIMARC authoritiess? |
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paul_p |
3M-- |
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jcamins |
paul_p: agreed! |
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jcamins |
3M-- |
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paul_p |
still problems with 3M self-checkout at Lyon 3 universities |
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paul_p |
new idea : 3M french does not respect 3M specs, and a patch solving a mistake has broken everything for us... |
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paul_p |
Lyon 3 checking if we're right with this explanation |
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* paul_p |
should have a phone call in a few minuts... |
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* paul_p |
keep finger crossed |
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fredericd |
paul_p: I've got the same issue with a 3M SC. I can confirm the issue with Koha 3.6 |
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paul_p |
fredericd what did you do ? comment $/='\015' ? |
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paul_p |
local $/ = "\015"; # proper SPEC: (octal) \015 = (hex) x0D = (dec) 13 = (ascii) carriage return |
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paul_p |
(line 157 of Sip.pm |
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paul_p |
) |
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fredericd |
I've used Koha 3.2 SIP2 server with a Koha 3.6 instance |
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fredericd |
the issue arises with Koha 3.4 |
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paul_p |
fredericd shame on you, it's a dirty workaround ;-) |
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paul_p |
right : the \015 thing has been added on jan 2011 |
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paul_p |
for between 3.2 and 3.4 |
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paul_p |
s/for/so/ |
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paul_p |
patch 3480ae1cacb23fee70257762c83bc3e241548f69 |
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fredericd |
paul_p: not false... |
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paul_p |
fredericd i'll let you know in a few minuts if my hack works better. |
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paul_p |
fredericd hdl is asking me to ask you if you have a working pazpar2 setup, because he is fighting against pazpar2, and not winning... |
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rangi |
the spec does say \r .. and yup, works fine with NZ 3M (and us) |
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* rangi |
has 3 libraries with 3M self check machines using koha 3.6.x |
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fredericd |
paul_p: yes, I have |
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rangi |
(as well as overdrive and wheelers (ebook vendors)) |
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oleonard |
rangi was roused from sleep by a disturbance in the Force generated by mention of 3M? |
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rangi |
heh, more like an excited boy who is off to his first day of school |
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jcamins |
Yay! |
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* rangi |
giggles |
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* magnuse |
wishes Kahu good luck |
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reiveune |
bye |
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cait |
oh |
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cait |
what does Kahu need luck for? |
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magnuse |
first day at school |
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cait |
ooh |
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cait |
good luck Kahu! |
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magnuse |
(unless i remember wrong and Kahu is the youngest?) |
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cait |
no that is atarau :) |
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rangi |
that's right :) |
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magnuse |
cool |
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schuster |
Oh the joys of first day of school!!! He'll be exhausted tonight! |
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magnuse |
big day |
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schuster |
My boys are always tired on Monday after the first day BACK to school... Guess I don't work them hard enough on the weekend! |
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rangi |
hehe |
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paul_p |
OK, I confirm that SIP in 3.2 work, and in 3.6 doesn't, at least for french 3M... will continue investigating tomorrow morning. Good bye world ! |
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cait |
bye paul_p - good luck to you too |
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cait |
we want to update a 3m using library soon... interested in your findings |
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wizzyrea |
interesting, we've had no issues |
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wizzyrea |
with 3m machines |
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hopes that software update they're trying to get doesn't break it. |
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fredericd |
jcamins: your author relator codes list isn't linked to 100 and 7xx in marc21_framework_DEFAULT.sql... |
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jcamins |
fredericd: not by default. |
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jcamins |
fredericd: they're also not installed by default. |
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jcamins |
The theory is, at least the authorized values list should be available for linking to the framework. |
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fredericd |
natürlish |
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cait |
natürlish? :) |
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fredericd |
that was for jcamins explanation... |
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jcamins |
Huh? |
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* jcamins |
supposes that was probably supposed to be a -ch. :) |
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fredericd |
natürlish = of course |
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jcamins |
:) |
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added a patch for relator codes in French to bug 6299 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6299 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Provide a list of authorized values for relator terms |
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wizzyrea |
oh, like naturally? |
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magnuse |
nat�rlich? |
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magnuse |
wizzyrea: exaktlich! |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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slef |
hi all! |
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cait |
h slef |
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slef |
busy times here... sorry for only returning when I've a question :-/ |
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maximep |
fredericd: so what you want is a sql of our 2 marc structure tables ? |
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maximep |
hoping to get back to you on this by the end of the day |
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slef |
How-can/why-can/what-sense-does-it-make a subfield be mandatory when the tag is not? |
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jcamins |
slef: required if applicable? |
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jcamins |
slef: but I don't think we really represent that at all in Koha. |
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fredericd |
maximep: yes. I could package them in a patch for installer/data/mysql/fr-FR/marcflavour/marc21/Obligatoire directory |
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fredericd |
and update to be in sync with English version |
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slef |
jcamins: that might work but not sure that's how it's working. Let me explain what I've met... |
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slef |
I've some records that came in through bulkmarcimport and they don't have 942; however, as soon as opened in the biblio editor, they have a 942 and refuse to save, complaining about the lack of a 942$c. |
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cait |
that's normal - although I almost always change it |
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cait |
I set it to a default value in the frameworks most of the time, the normal itemtype that is used most often |
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slef |
Do you think I should fix the thing generating data for bulkmarcimport to include a 942$c, change the frameworks to not require it, report it as a bug, or what? |
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cait |
I am not sure |
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slef |
I think bulkmarcimport records go in as being default framework. |
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cait |
I think it makes sense to have it like that if you don't use item-level itypes |
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slef |
Not sure setting a default in the framework would help there. |
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slef |
I'm 99% sure this library uses item-level itypes. |
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slef |
Not sure if they mean to, but pretty sure they do ;-) |
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jcamins |
slef: fix bulkmarcimport. |
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slef |
jcamins: so I should get a 942$c into its input? |
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cait |
listen to jcamins - it's a cataloging question :) |
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* slef |
looks at how to figure out 942$c from what's already in the input |
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jcamins |
slef: I think there really *should* be 942$c in all records, so either put it into the MARC yourself, or have bulkmarcimport extract it from 952. |
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slef |
cait: yeah. It's not an obvious one for us programmers. |
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slef |
jcamins: hmmm, is there an argument for having bulkmarcimport take the first 952$y if there is no 942$c, or is that silly for a reason I don't see? |
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jcamins |
That sounds wise to me. |
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jcamins |
To clarify, the 942$c is not required by other ILSes. |
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slef |
well yeah, it's a 9xx |
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jcamins |
However, catalogers expect the item type to be automatically set, and if 942$c is not automatically set, you end up with a lot of {item type that begins with 'A'}. |
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slef |
in theory, anything with a 9 is local use isn't it? |
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jcamins |
Except for 490. |
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jcamins |
;) |
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slef |
@marc 490 |
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huginn` |
slef: A series statement for which no series added entry is traced or for which the added entry is traced in one of the 800-830 fields in a form different from the form contained in field 490. (Repeatable) [a,l,v,x,6,8] |
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slef |
that's a funny one... how did that happen? |
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* jcamins |
doesn't know, and is afraid to find out. |
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jcamins |
;) |
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slef |
heh... IF YOU STARE TOO DEEPLY INTO MARC21, MARC21 STARES BACK INTO YOU! |
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wizzyrea |
@quote add slef: IF YOU STARE TOO DEEPLY INTO MARC21, MARC21 STARES BACK INTO YOU! |
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huginn` |
wizzyrea: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
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wizzyrea |
hrmph |
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slef |
wizzyrea: yeah, I get that. |
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wizzyrea |
ez to fix :) |
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wizzyrea |
@quote get 23 |
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huginn` |
wizzyrea: Quote #23: "<gmcharlt> /msg huginn register nick password" (added by wizzyrea_ at 04:25 PM, August 06, 2009) |
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jcamins |
My library school is rebranding itself. |
| 18:59 |
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wizzyrea |
@quote add slef: IF YOU STARE TOO DEEPLY INTO MARC21, MARC21 STARES BACK INTO YOU! |
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huginn` |
wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #184 added. |
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wizzyrea |
i win. |
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slef |
@quote add <wizzyrea> @quote get 23 |
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huginn` |
slef: The operation succeeded. Quote #185 added. |
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wizzyrea |
that's so meta |
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wizzyrea |
@quote get 184 |
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huginn` |
wizzyrea: Quote #184: "slef: IF YOU STARE TOO DEEPLY INTO MARC21, MARC21 STARES BACK INTO YOU!" (added by wizzyrea at 06:58 PM, January 30, 2012) |
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slef |
You mean "@quote get 185" is so meta? |
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wizzyrea |
yes |
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oleonard |
@quote get 185 |
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huginn` |
oleonard: Quote #185: "<wizzyrea> @quote get 23" (added by slef at 06:59 PM, January 30, 2012) |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
technically I suppose they both are in their way. |
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oleonard |
No chance of setting up an infinite loop then |
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slef |
tempting... very tempting... |
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* slef |
steps away from the bot |
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* wizzyrea |
protects huginn` |
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jcamins |
lol |
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maximep |
oh man, for a sec I tought it was you that was writing this |
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jcamins |
maximep: no, not me. |
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maximep |
a modicum ? I guess I learned a new word today |
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jcamins |
Yay! |
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* collum |
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maximep |
well I knew that one because it'S probably from the french word communiqué |
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maximep |
well it is the exact same word it seems |
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schuster |
So if I have a script that I am cleaning up and going to submit to the community - I was going to provide some test data for the testers. Does that go in as part of the patch or attach the data to the bug for others to test? |
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schuster |
It is a patron loading script and I also am working on a picture loading script |
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jcamins |
Attach the data to the bug. |
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jcamins |
A picture loading script? |
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jcamins |
Doesn't upload-patron-images.pl work from the command line, too? |
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schuster |
I was looking for that where is it? |
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slef |
locate upload-patron-images.pl |
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slef |
oops |
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jcamins |
tools/ |
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slef |
erm |
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slef |
picture-upload.pl ? |
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jcamins |
It's not? |
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jcamins |
That might be it. |
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schuster |
there it is! |
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slef |
cool. Had me worried. |
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slef |
biab |
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schuster |
thank you very much one headache out of the way now to seee how it works vs what I have. |
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jcamins |
schuster: I don't know how it works, I just think that it works from the command line, too. |
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schuster |
hmmm it doesn't look like a command line tool... |
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jcamins |
schuster: it might not work from the command line. |
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* jcamins |
confesses he couldn't really understand how the code works. |
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schuster |
I have 53000 borrowers that we upload patron images from a central database once a week so the one at a time or even the zip file process times out. So we have been using this as a command line cron job. |
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schuster |
I'm trying to make sure these "Special" things are available in community... |
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jcamins |
schuster++ |
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jcamins |
That will be really useful for a lot of people, I think. |
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oleonard |
Hi kyle |
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kyle |
hello |
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oleonard |
@wunder 45701 |
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huginn` |
oleonard: The current temperature in Ohio University, Athens, Ohio is 9.0�C (3:05 PM EST on January 30, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: -6.0�C. Windchill: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1017.8 hPa (Steady). |
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oleonard |
Feels like the temperature in my office. |
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schuster |
@wunder 75074 |
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huginn` |
schuster: The current temperature in Brookview, Plano, Texas is 20.7�C (2:02 PM CST on January 30, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 33%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Pressure: 29.44 in 996.8 hPa (Steady). |
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wonders why his Firefox is so crashy today |
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wizzyrea |
hi kyle! |
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kyle |
hello! |
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waves from the bus |
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will brb |
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hey kyle how goes Koha up there! |
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cait |
hi oleonard, kyle and rangi |
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librarygeekadam |
Good day. Quick question for anyone who can help me. I am getting ready to install koha on Ubuntu and ran perl Makefile.PL and got this warning - "Warning: prerequisite Locale::Currency::Format 1.28 not found" along with "PDF::API2::Simple 1 not found". Any ideas? |
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oleonard |
librarygeekadam: Install those things? |
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librarygeekadam |
i am testing that theory now to see if it fixes it |
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oleonard |
I'm not sure why those wouldn't have been automatically installed |
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librarygeekadam |
that's why i found it a little confusing |
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jcamins |
You're on Ubuntu 10.04? |
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slef |
hrrrrm... why is MARC21slim2OPACDetail.xsl executable? |
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librarygeekadam |
11.10 |
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jcamins |
slef: 'cause my patch to fix it got rejected. |
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slef |
jcamins: bug no? |
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jcamins |
librarygeekadam: odd. It should've been installed. |
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jcamins |
slef: oh yes. |
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* oleonard |
sees them in install_misc/debian.packages |
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jcamins |
Definitely a bug. |
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slef |
jcamins: bug number? ;) |
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rangi |
slef: yep def should be fixed |
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jcamins |
slef: I don't think it has one. |
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slef |
jcamins: so why rejected? |
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jcamins |
slef: I fixed it as part of another thing, and someone complained. |
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jcamins |
So I took the chmod -x out, and didn't get around to submitting separately. |
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slef |
jcamins: oh well a plague on both your houses ;) |
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jcamins |
It's been executable for a long time. |
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librarygeekadam |
ok well it went through this time |
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librarygeekadam |
no warnings |
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slef |
yeah, some contributor has done something silly like chmod 755 and snuck them in |
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slef |
I caught an httpd.conf a while back |
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librarygeekadam |
I just went back into cpan and used the install command to install the files it said I was missing then reran the perl Makefile.PL command |
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librarygeekadam |
thanks again! always a good helpful place to visit. |
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slef |
librarygeekadam: congratulations! Your package management system is now degraded! :-/ |
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librarygeekadam |
why do you say that slef? |
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slef |
librarygeekadam: because dpkg/apt-get/aptitude/synaptic knows nothing of stuff installed with cpan install |
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slef |
librarygeekadam: but don't mind me. This is an argument I lost a long time ago ;-) |
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oleonard |
slef: why do you say that? We always choose packages wherever possible don't we? |
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* slef |
prefers dh-make-perl to cpan install |
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slef |
oleonard: no. |
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oleonard |
... |
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cait |
but for ubuntu all should be available - no need for cpan |
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jcamins |
One of my developers has been using cpan for installing modules. I gave up on that. As long as he only uses modules that are packaged, that's good enough. |
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librarygeekadam |
cpan not good? |
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rangi |
cpan is fine as far as it goes |
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librarygeekadam |
i am not a developer or programer |
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rangi |
but if you have a debian system and there is a package available .. you should use that |
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jcamins |
It was the only option back on early versions of Solaris. |
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slef |
cpan is OK, but be aware that it is not managed by the usual package manager |
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rangi |
so dist-upgrade, or security releases you have to do all yourself |
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rangi |
not let apt-get do it for you |
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slef |
rangi: to be fair, you have to subscribe to release announcements for dh-make-perl'd packages too. |
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librarygeekadam |
i see...but don't understand entirely. Do I have to do these upgrades even after koha is up and running? |
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slef |
rangi: but doesn't http://debian.koha-community.org work on ubuntu too? |
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rangi |
yup |
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slef |
librarygeekadam: yes, if there's a security upgrade released. |
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rangi |
when i say debian i meant ubuntu/mint/whatever esle as well |
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rangi |
also there is a ppa |
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rangi |
https://launchpad.net/~koha/+archive/koha-stable |
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rangi |
which i need to update for 3.6.3 |
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librarygeekadam |
well, I am only testing on Ubuntu/Apache server. our real server is something else that the guys in IT handle. I am just trying to get a working koha to play with so we can see if we like it. |
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* oleonard |
is still wondering what argument slef lost a long time ago |
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librarygeekadam |
i have a different question now if someone is willing...I just ran "make test" and received a Fail for the first time ever (also first time using 3.06.03) |
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librarygeekadam |
the error is "Non-zero exit status: 255 - Parse errors: Bad plan. You planned 5 tests but ran 1 |
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librarygeekadam |
"make: ** [test_dynamic] Error 255 |
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slef |
oleonard: to use dh-make-perl instead of cpan install. |
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slef |
oleonard: in other words, to use packages whenever possible. |
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jcamins |
slef: but we don't use cpan install for anything. |
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slef |
ok, twit-filter me: do any of .pm files, .sql files, .tt files, .plugin files, .inc files or .abs files need to be executable? |
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jcamins |
Other than .plugin, which I don't recognize, no. |
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slef |
I think maybe only .plugin? |
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jcamins |
I don't know what .plugin is. |
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cait |
the new tt plugin maybe? |
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rangi |
yeah the rest dont and i dont know about .plugin |
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slef |
reports/issues_by_borrower_category.plugin |
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rangi |
cait: nope |
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rangi |
ahhh |
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slef |
is an example |
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slef |
perl script |
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rangi |
yeah that maybe |
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librarygeekadam |
i am looking online and a lot of things say not to worry about the "error 255". Is that true? |
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slef |
@query executable |
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huginn` |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6874 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , File upload in MARC |
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huginn` |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1633 enhancement, P3, ---, kmkale, Pushed to Master , Add ability to take book cover images from local img db |
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huginn` |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7157 enhancement, P3, ---, wizzyrea, Pushed to Master , Improve the j2a.pl cronjob |
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huginn` |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6277 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , CustomLog by default |
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jcamins |
librarygeekadam: depends what the error is about. |
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librarygeekadam |
Non-zero exit status? |
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slef |
ok, someone remind me what version to report against? I'm working on master HEAD |
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slef |
is that master or rel_3_8? |
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jcamins |
Master. |
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jcamins |
librarygeekadam: there are hundreds if not thousands of tests. |
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jcamins |
You need to find out which test is failing. |
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librarygeekadam |
yeah i see it failed 1/92 and 0/7310 |
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slef |
and I guess this is "Architecture, internals and plumbing"? |
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jcamins |
It should have said something like t/Koha_Cache.t somewhere. |
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jcamins |
slef: I think so. |
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slef |
can I run a shell script as a test easily? |
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jcamins |
slef: what do you mean? |
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jcamins |
Oh, you mean to put in xt/? |
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jcamins |
I don't know. |
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slef |
yeah |
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jcamins |
Probably not. |
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slef |
ah find-nonutf8 is a shell script |
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slef |
I guess it's OK |
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rangi |
yeah, xt/ is fine for shell i think |
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librarygeekadam |
t/Koha_template_plugin_KohaDates.t (Wstat: 652870 Tests: 1 Failed: 0) |
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librarygeekadam |
Non-zero exit status: 255 |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
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jcamins |
Right. |
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librarygeekadam |
Parse Errors: bad plan. You planned 5 tests but ran 1 |
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librarygeekadam |
Result: Fail |
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rangi |
thats the only one that fails? |
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librarygeekadam |
yeah |
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jcamins |
Yup. Bug 7359 strikes! |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7359 critical, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, Passed QA , Begin migration to a new "Koha" namespace from the old "C4" namespace |
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rangi |
you can safely ignore that then, it will be fixed soo |
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rangi |
n |
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librarygeekadam |
ok |
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librarygeekadam |
thank you! |
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librarygeekadam |
i kept redoing everything and kept getting the same result |
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slef |
why does koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/lib/yui/imageloader/imageloader.js have a stack of NULs on its end? |
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* jcamins |
would guess "by mistake" |
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* oleonard |
would guess "YUI is out to get you" |
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slef |
both of the above? |
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* oleonard |
will be very glad when we are rid of it |
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rangi |
slef++ #for the test script |
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cait |
slef++ :) |
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slef |
do Needs Signoff bugs not get announced here any more or am I just being impatient? ;-) |
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slef |
bug 7476 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7476 normal, P3, ---, mjr, Needs Signoff , Files executable that probably should not be |
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oleonard |
Not since the latest bug status overhaul slef |
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cait |
ah |
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slef |
who used to? huginn`? |
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oleonard |
Yes |
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slef |
huginn`: where's your source code? |
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huginn` |
slef: downloading the Perl source |
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cait |
slef: the wiki knows :) |
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oleonard |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]lars#Channel_Bots |
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cait |
^^ |
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oleonard |
bots? |
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wahanui |
bots are listed at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars |
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slef |
Ah, I was on http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]stration#IRC_bot_.28huginn.29 |
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* slef |
deduplicates |
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schuster |
when I run git pull do I have to be in any particular branch when I do that? showing his stupidity still. |
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rangi |
yes |
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rangi |
you have to be on the branch you want to merge into |
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rangi |
by default a git pull = git fetch + git merge |
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schuster |
so I should be in the master/origin branch when I pull to get all the new stuff? |
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librarygeekadam |
does anyone have a good webpage on uploading marc records to koha? |
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cait |
documentation? |
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wahanui |
documentation is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/ |
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cait |
librarygeekadam: there should be a description in the manual :) |
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schuster |
good stuff there... |
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slef |
schuster: probably. |
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librarygeekadam |
thanks! |
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slef |
bwahahaha http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]lars#Channel_Bots has no more info |
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slef |
I give up. |
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schuster |
ok thanks all... |
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slef |
but then I can't talk because I've still not published the patches2bugs bot |
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cait |
I think perhaps drop gmcharlt a short mail? |
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slef |
yeah |
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rangi |
meeting time, bbiab |
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oleonard |
quitting time, back tomorrow. Or the next day. |
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cait |
bye oleonard |
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slef |
sent |
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slef |
ok, final mail check and I'm going to fall over too |
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jcamins |
Pretty late in Konstanz, too, I think. |
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cait |
heh |
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cait |
not that late! |
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paul_p |
patch pushed. Time to go to bed ;-) |
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paul_p |
bye #koha |
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cait |
night paul_p |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7460: Add template toolkit's FILTER html_line_break on opac details description... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]076ce2b7d4a9dd5d5> / Bug 7446: Redundant display of availablecount in results.tt in staff client. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b8f7e446ef80dc39c> / Bug 3806 - Holidays table doesn't order by d |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #605 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) |
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g'night #koha |
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eythian |
hi |
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wahanui |
hi, eythian |
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cait |
morning eythian |
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cait |
good night #koha |
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eythian |
bye cait |
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rangi |
hi wizzyrea |
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hdl1 |
bye |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #605: SUCCESS in 54 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/605/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* cnighswonger: Bug 7359 - Begin migration to a new "Koha" namespace from the old "C4" namespace |
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jenkins_koha |
* christophe.croullebois: Bug 7350: In neworderempty.pl duplicating an item does not preserve select box selections |
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jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Bug 3806 - Holidays table doesn't order by date correcly |
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jenkins_koha |
* ruth: Bug 7446: Redundant display of availablecount in results.tt in staff client. |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7359 critical, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Begin migration to a new "Koha" namespace from the old "C4" namespace |
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jenkins_koha |
* stephane.delaune: Bug 7460: Add template toolkit's FILTER html_line_break on opac details description's tab |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7350 normal, P3, ---, christophe.croullebois, Pushed to Master , In New order the "+" button duplicates input text but not the "selected" in ddl |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3806 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Holidays table doesn't order by date correcly |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7446 trivial, P5 - low, ---, ruth, Pushed to Master , Redundant display of availablecount in staff client (results.tt) |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7460 minor, P5 - low, ---, stephane.delaune, ASSIGNED , nl2br in opac Title notes tab |
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Judit |
morning |
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wizzyrea |
oh hello :) |
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wizzyrea |
wow |
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wizzyrea |
that's what I get for not paying attention |
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rangi |
? |
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wizzyrea |
i miss my hellos :) |
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rangi |
ahh |
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rangi |
well check this out |
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rangi |
http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7327 |
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huginn` |
Bug 7327: normal, P5 - low, ---, aleksa, Needs Signoff , Translation script doesn't like concatenated javascript strings |
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rangi |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
oo |
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slef |
is it public how much HLT raised last year when threatened? |
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rangi |
yeah i think so |
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rangi |
lemme look |
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rangi |
deadline is approaching fast so we should find out how that money was spent soon |
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rangi |
yup |
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rangi |
12k |
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rangi |
http://koha-community.org/update-2/ |
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slef |
NZD? |
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rangi |
afaik |
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slef |
thanks (I've another project saying, more-or-less, waah we have infringers extorting from us but there's no point in asking for money to fight it because no-one will give us money... so I'll point to HLT as a give-it-a-try counter-example) |
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rangi |
cool |
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rangi |
hope it helps |
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* wizzyrea |
is installing the en-NZ translation now for testing that bug. Maybe I'll be plucky and install german too. |
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rangi |
:) |
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slef |
Koha hat deine Speisegericht gegessen. |
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wizzyrea |
probably easier to spot mistranslations in german ;) |
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slef |
hrm? |
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wizzyrea |
nvm |
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wizzyrea |
not important |
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wizzyrea |
hmm will have to ask kf about that tomorrow - I must be doing something wrong. |
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rangi |
you probably have to recreate the .po file and translate the newly available translatable strings or something, but yeah id check with her |
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wizzyrea |
hmmmm good pt |
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