Time Nick Message
00:45 jcamins_away Hello, New Zealand!
00:46 jcamins_away (and everyone else)
00:47 chrisdothall jcamins_away: hello from nz :)
00:50 kathryn hi jcamins I'll take that as a hi to me too! (I work with chrisdothall and rangi)
00:51 jcamins Hi kathryn. :)
00:53 kathryn : ) I'm a little quiet but I'm here!
00:53 jcamins And we're very glad to have you. :)
00:57 kathryn why thank you! maybe I should ask more questions here then I don't have to hassle rangi so much : )
00:58 jcamins You can hassle rangi on #koha!
00:58 jcamins That's our preferred method. ;)
00:59 kathryn true!
01:22 jcamins rangi: around?
01:22 eythian he ain't
01:22 eythian well, he's not here anyway
01:22 jcamins Hm.
01:23 jcamins I guess the world won't have the benefit of rangi's moderating influence on my tetchy comment.
01:26 jcamins So... does that comment make clear that I think this is an issue?
01:28 jcamins *important issue
01:33 eythian "this" is not defined: core dumped
01:39 jcamins eythian: bug 7359.
01:39 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7359 blocker, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , Begin migration to a new "Koha" namespace from the old "C4" namespace
01:40 jcamins The fact that every single "regular" 3.6.3 and 3.4.8 install will be broken.
01:40 eythian ah. I might hold off on making the packages for a little while then.
01:42 jcamins Yes, please do.
01:43 jcamins Better to have people wondering why there are no packages than wondering why Koha won't work.
03:22 AmitG heya bag
03:34 * chris_n wonders briefly if there is any association between his being disconnected and the last line in the irc buffer including the words "core dumped" :)
04:31 * rangi downgrades the severity of 7359
04:59 rangi its only 2 pages
04:59 rangi not Koha not working, 2 new features are broken, the rest work fine
04:59 cait ah, so 7359 only affects the new feature?
05:00 rangi yes
05:00 rangi for 929
05:00 cait right
05:00 rangi it only affects the templates that use that plugin
05:00 cait and easy to workaround I guess?
05:01 rangi yep, copy the file
05:01 cait cool
05:01 cait not bad at all then
05:01 rangi still worth pushing
05:01 cait yep
05:30 AmitG hey aBob
06:22 rangi oh is the survey results out?
06:24 rangi lol
06:24 rangi the old low levels of interest
06:25 rangi thats why i never tell anyone to fill in his survey its statistically unsound
06:25 rangi and hsis conclusions are always biased against open source
06:27 rangi but ouch .. liblime .. bottom or 2nd to bottom on everything
06:27 rangi http://www.librarytechnology.org/perceptions2011.pl
06:42 rangi good to see actual koha score really well
06:42 rangi even if marshall seems to interpret that as not well, meh
06:45 cait agreed
06:45 cait not a lot of comments this year
06:46 rangi no
06:46 rangi not too many at all
06:47 rangi pleased to see the 2 catalyst ones who choose to respond said we do good, so im happy with that
06:49 cait :)
07:34 reiveune hello
07:34 wahanui que tal, reiveune
07:36 cait hi reiveune
07:36 rangi hi reiveune
07:36 reiveune hi rangi , cait , everybody :)
07:36 rangi hi laurence
07:37 laurence hi rangi
07:37 laurence hi #koha
07:38 alex_a bonjour
07:38 wahanui hi, alex_a
07:41 cait hi laurence and alex_a
07:41 rangi hi alex_a
07:45 rangi hi paul_p
07:47 cait hi paul_p
07:47 paul_p hello #koha
07:48 magnuse kia ora #koha!
07:48 rangi hi magnuse
07:49 cait morning magnuse
07:52 magnuse hiya cait-not-here-anymore and rangi
07:52 rangi heh
07:53 magnuse wassup?
07:53 rangi marshalls perceptions report is out
07:53 rangi the numbers look great for koha
07:53 rangi not great at all for liblime
07:53 magnuse ah, yes i saw you and cait chatting about that earlier
07:53 rangi but somehow the conclusions marshall draws dont reflect the numbers
07:53 magnuse interesting...
07:53 wahanui interesting is good
07:54 rangi but then again .. they never do
07:54 magnuse heh, that's a shame
07:54 magnuse i sent it to my kindle, will peruse it later
07:54 rangi cool
07:55 marcelr hi koha
07:56 magnuse hiya marcelr
07:56 marcelr hi magnuse
07:57 marcelr rangi?
07:57 wahanui I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS!
07:57 rangi yup
07:58 marcelr about etc; should it install there?
07:58 magnuse cool: http://library.engr.tu.ac.th/
07:58 rangi standard one?
07:58 rangi yes
07:58 rangi thast where it puts the koha-conf.xml
07:58 marcelr did not do that long time
07:59 rangi well thats if you just hit return at the defaults
07:59 * rangi does another one
08:00 rangi (ive done 2 today but very rarely do them now im not RM, since i use the packages, i used to do them as part of the release tho)
08:00 marcelr ok
08:00 julian_m hello
08:00 rangi yep, hitting enter
08:01 marcelr hi julian_m
08:01 julian_m hi marcelr, hi rangi
08:02 rangi $(KOHA_INST_KOHA_CONF_DIR) $(KOHA_DEST_KOHA_CONF_DIR)
08:03 magnuse wow, those are seriously long item types... http://library.engr.tu.ac.th/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=3
08:03 rangi goes to
08:03 rangi OHA_DEST_KOHA_CONF_DIR = $(DESTDIR)/etc/koha
08:04 rangi and DESTDIR =
08:04 marcelr yes?
08:04 rangi so yeah, /etc/koha is where it will go
08:04 marcelr but you cant change it
08:05 rangi KOHA_DEST_INTRANET_CGI_DIR = $(DESTDIR)/usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin
08:05 rangi yep
08:05 rangi its always been like that for a standard install
08:05 magnuse wb cait
08:06 rangi but thats totally separate to the new problem of the Makefile.PL ignoring hte Koha dir
08:06 asaurat hello
08:07 rangi hi asaurat hdl and gaetan_B
08:07 marcelr rangi: yes
08:07 marcelr hi asaurat
08:07 hdl hi rangi
08:09 gaetan_B hello #koha :)
08:11 marcelr hi gaetan_B
08:12 rangi marcelr++ # thanks for the quick qa
08:12 marcelr np
08:21 cait_ hi all
08:23 magnuse hi cait_
08:23 marcelr hi cait
08:27 magnuse hi kf
08:27 rangi hi kf
08:27 kf no back for real
08:28 magnuse woohoo! ;-)
08:28 marcelr real?
08:28 kf was testing a new irc client on phone earlier
08:28 kf and s/no/now/
08:28 marcelr ;)
08:34 francharb hi
08:34 wahanui bonjour, francharb
08:34 kf hi francharb :)
08:35 sophie_m hello #koha
08:36 rangi hiy francharb and sophie_m
08:36 sophie_m hi rangi
08:36 francharb hi kf rangi
08:36 kf bonjour sophie_m :)
08:37 sophie_m Guten Tag kf
08:43 marcelr hi sophie_m and francharb
08:53 marcelr could anyone of you reproduce the problem of bug 3264 (comment 10) ? takes a minute or two ..
08:53 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3264 critical, P1 - high, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , UnCloneField() / minus button in MARC editor can clear all subfields (authorities AND biblio)
09:19 rangi marcelr: if no one has by tomorrow ill check on my computer at work, dont have firefox on this one, just chromium
09:20 marcelr you could check it there too?
09:20 marcelr does not depend on firefox
09:20 marcelr has to do with function in C4 module
09:21 marcelr well, thinking further it could be related to browser (order of params and handling empty params)
09:23 rangi hmm but jared couldnt reproduce
09:23 rangi even after comment 10
09:24 * rangi tries
09:27 rangi hmm i cant recreate either i removed the 4
09:27 rangi and the rest of the 700 stayed there
09:28 * rangi tries making 2 4 subfields
09:30 rangi hmm nope still seems to work fine
09:30 asaurat bug 7455 has to do with this kind of function too
09:30 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7455 normal, P4, ---, adrien.saurat, ASSIGNED , Authority subfields are cloned in the wrong field
09:31 asaurat seems tricky to correct
09:43 marcelr rangi: thanks for testing, have to see which browsers (under which version..) do have this problem
09:44 marcelr bug does depend on not receiving empty params which makes the function stumble over unexpected order
10:34 * kf hands out the duct tape
10:47 magnuse hey, it worked!
10:57 kf heh
10:57 kf lunch time :)
11:16 druthb o/
11:17 magnuse \o
11:42 AmitG heya druthb
11:42 druthb hi, AmitG. :)
11:45 druthb Two Amits! :) Handy.
11:45 druthb Awr.
11:57 cul_away didn't get a chance to resolve this yesterday... unable to search in staff or opac. zebra appears to be running: 19694 0.0 0.1 3376 804 pts/0 S+ 06:53 0:00 grep --color=auto zebra. Also seems that zebra is not auto starting.
11:58 kohaLIB Hi all...
12:00 kf hi kohaLIB
12:01 kohaLIB I have installed Koha on port Interanet 8000 & OPAC 8001...... now need to change this with 8090 & 8091 please guide me in which files i want to update
12:02 kohaLIB hello, kf:
12:05 AmitG heya kohaLIB
12:07 Culiforge hello all
12:12 Culiforge koha-restart-zebra 'instance' only gives me help file what am I not doing right?
12:13 kohaLIB need to change Listen port 8000 & 8001 with 8090 & 8091.... please guide the right procedure?
12:17 AmitG change in your koha-httpd.conf file
12:17 wahanui AmitG: that doesn't look right
12:18 AmitG heya wahanui
12:20 kohaLIB AmitG: i hv altered in koha-httpd.conf but getting error "page not found"
12:20 AmitG what error?
12:21 kf Culiforge: perhaps without the '' ?
12:22 kf kohaLIB: you will also need to change in your apache configuration I think
12:22 Culiforge I simply put that as a placeholder for my instance
12:22 Culiforge koha-restart-zebra library is actual
12:22 kf Culiforge: not sure then, what does the help say?
12:23 Culiforge just the syntax list for daemon commands.. same as if I had typed -h
12:23 kf kohaLIB: ports.conf ?
12:23 kf but does not tell you whats wrong?
12:24 kf Culiforge: sorry, I am not a package expert - perhaps someone else will know a bit later
12:24 kohaLIB kf: u mean add "Listen 8090" "Listen 8091" in ports.conf
12:24 kf yes
12:24 kf and restarting apache
12:25 Culiforge Restarting Zebra server for library / Invalid option: __user (only works for root) / usage: daemon [options] [cmd arg...] / options:
12:25 kf hm
12:26 kf perhaps permissions?
12:26 Culiforge kf: ran as sudo and as root, same result
12:27 kf sorry out of ideas
12:27 Culiforge kf: np, i'll keep poking around
12:30 kohaLIB kf: thanks buddy... it's work
12:30 kohaLIB kf: no any other change require??
12:35 kohaLIB kf: thanks for your guidance
13:10 Culiforge aha! kf: you are correct... permissions. but why are all my permissions locked to root user? Because I had to run this to get zebra running: sudo -uroot zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/sites/library/koha-conf.xml
13:11 kf hm
13:11 kf that does not seem right to me
13:11 kf all zebra files should be owned by your koha user
13:12 kf and starting zebrasrv should work without sudo
13:12 jcamins_away Culiforge: don't use -uroot
13:12 Culiforge kf: that's what I was thinking..
13:12 jcamins_away -ukoha or -ugary depending on which user you're running Koha under.
13:12 kf good morning jcamins_away :)
13:13 Culiforge jcamins: I tried -ugary and -ukoha.. no permissions
13:13 jcamins_away Culiforge: you need to change the permissions to whichever user you're uins.g
13:13 jcamins_away *using
13:14 jcamins_away Good morning.
13:15 kf jcamins++
13:15 marcelr hi jcamins
13:15 marcelr ?
13:16 Culiforge jcamins: right. but i'm just wondering why all those files are set to root. I'll fiddle with it at work today.. gotta get ready. Good morning #koha and goodbye for now.
13:16 jcamins_away cul_away: it's because you ran it as root once.
13:17 jcamins_away marcelr: good morning.
13:17 marcelr hi
13:17 wahanui bonjour, marcelr
13:17 marcelr jcamins: you tested a lot os
13:17 cul_away jcamins: so running as root resets all permissions?
13:17 jcamins_away marcelr: yeah, I may have gone a bit overboard.
13:17 jcamins_away cul_away: you ran it as root the first time.
13:19 jcamins_away marcelr: I posted a screen capture on the bug.
13:19 kf jcamins++ for helping me translate manuscript english
13:19 marcelr saw it; looks ;like what i did with another result??
13:20 marcelr thinking about preferences or other things that may affect this..
13:21 jcamins_away Yeah, I'm not sure which could have an impact, though.
13:21 marcelr very strange..
13:28 oleonard "Summaries of replacement candidates for libraries indicating they are considering migrating to a new ILS: Innovative Interfaces Sierra 88, Evergreen 87, Koha 74"
13:29 oleonard And yet, "low levels of interest in migrating to an open source ILS" ?!
13:36 kf oleonard: yes, it's not right
13:37 kf I don't see how he comes to this conclusion from the numbers
13:42 * oleonard wonders why someone just added themselves to the CC list on Bug 1293
13:42 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1293 normal, P2, ---, chris, RESOLVED MOVED, Database installation problem
13:50 kf confusing bug numbers?
13:56 oleonard Marshall responds on Twitter, "It does seem ironic that the scores for the open source question are low, but open source replacements are frequently given."
13:56 oleonard What a cop-out.
14:24 magnuse so when libraries are asked "are you planning on migrating to a FLOSS ILS" they say no, and when they are asked what systems they plan to migrate to they say koha and evergeen? makes perfect sense to me...
14:27 druthb Sounds like the libraries for whom the open-source angle is not a big part of their decision. These are the ones that, when you start talking about FLOSS, say, "yes, yes, that's nice...now, does it *work*?"
14:28 magnuse :-)
14:28 oleonard And yet he chooses to base his conclusion on one data point which is directly contradicted by another.
14:29 * druthb , having met Marshall in-person, refrains from coloring the conversation with her own opinions...but she is unsurprised by the seeming contradiction that oleonard points out.
14:29 magnuse yeah, pointing out the disparity would be much better than drawing a conclusion based on one side of the story
14:32 oleonard If anything it's good news for us: We're competitive on the basis of functionality rather than ideology
14:33 magnuse yay!
14:33 druthb oleonard++
14:36 nengard amazon question - amazon now requires associate id be filled in - we say in the sys prefs that you sign up at aws.amazon.com but i'm not seeing an associate id there - i think you have to sign up at https://affiliate-program.amazon.com/ for the associate id - can anyone confirm/correct me?
14:38 oleonard Amazon now requires associate id for what?
14:38 oleonard Amazon covers are the only thing that work right now
15:06 * magnuse waves to wizzyrea as she wizzes past...
15:07 wizzyrea hi :)
15:08 magnuse kia ora!
15:09 kf hi wizzyrea :)
15:16 nengard oleonard i thought that they required the associate id for the covers (sorry got sidetracked)
15:16 nengard if not then great!
15:16 oleonard nengard: I don't think so. The template builds a direct link to the image file on Amazon.com
15:16 nengard okey dokey
15:16 nengard good to know
15:16 nengard don't remember where i read that
15:17 * oleonard is very pleased to submit a fix for Bug 3215
15:17 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3215 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , It would be nice if "Add to Cart" changed to "Remove from Cart"
15:18 nengard cool
15:22 magnuse oleonard++
15:23 oleonard Not sure why I suddenly got a bee in my bonnet about that one.
15:28 pastebot "nengard" at 98.114.30.184 pasted "looking for some report help again - anyone around who can help?" (16 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/235
15:49 schuster Question about command line scripts - I have a couple that I am looking at committing, but being a good citizen am trying to document the correctly.
15:49 schuster I found the guidelines for command line scripts, but my question has more to do with how to insert that information into the .pl
15:50 schuster A programmer here in Plano used =head1 NAME and then put the information describing what it was doing... fancy formating...
15:51 schuster I looked at the rebuild_zebra and it basically did a sub print_usage { and then put all the options there and closed it _USAGE_ }
15:51 schuster is there a preference? or more guidance?
15:56 kf I think the =head is the POD
15:56 kf and you will also want to use something to make it put out the commands when typing -h
15:57 kf I would look at newer scripts and how they do that
15:57 kf http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=misc/cronjobs/j2a.pl;h=87edaa4bb7a25ba4e727400eaba896d2f9836d9e;hb=fe1a642a1a06c38b55c2666ead4f4ff4ea3658da
15:57 kf this is quite new
15:58 schuster Thanks for the response!
15:58 kf yvw
15:58 kf hope it's helpful :)
15:58 schuster Starting in the dark so everything is helpful!
15:59 schuster they used the =head1 NAME configuration as well so I'll go that way!
16:00 kf yes, I think it's called POD (plain old documentation)
16:00 kf http://perldoc.perl.org/perlpod.html
16:01 nengard looking for some report help again - anyone around who can help? (16 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/235
16:01 nengard kf ^
16:04 schuster just to clarify they didn't do anything with their collection/location codes to match that?
16:07 kf sorry nengard, no time today
16:08 jcamins schuster: use POD.
16:09 jcamins schuster: I'd like to redo rebuild_zebra to use POD at some point.
16:13 * magnuse would applaud jcamins if he did
16:14 schuster thanks jcamins - and if zebra were to change to the "proposed biblibre" indexing option then it wouldn't be worth it!
16:14 wizzyrea nengard: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3579760/mysql-case-in-select-statement-with-like-operator
16:15 wizzyrea may be helpful.
16:15 nengard thanks!
16:15 jcamins schuster: no, it would be worth it.
16:15 jcamins schuster: zebra isn't going anywhere.
16:16 schuster wizzyrea nengard - I was wondering about like that always gets me when I do the truncation
16:48 kf bye all
16:48 fredericd Any MARC21 specialist around?
16:49 fredericd I can see that author fields (100, 70x) may have a $4 subfield
16:49 jcamins fredericd: I'm here.
16:49 fredericd But I don't see that much marc21 biblios using this letter
16:49 fredericd thanks...
16:49 fredericd In Koha, there is no autorized values for this subfield
16:49 fredericd It isn't decoded in XSL
16:50 fredericd Is it a good idea to use $4 at all?
16:51 jcamins Yes, $4 is used for relator trms.
16:51 jcamins Very important for RDA.
16:51 jcamins There's a bug for adding authoirzed values.
16:52 jcamins I just signed off on it.
16:53 fredericd Why is there so few MARC21 biblio records using this field?
16:53 jcamins It's newish.
16:53 jcamins I use it a lot.
16:53 fredericd ok, intersting
16:53 jcamins And other ILSes don't support it either.
16:54 fredericd I'm migrating a catalog from UNIMARC to MARC21, and since in UNIMARC there is an equivalent $4 subfield, and a used one, I'm tempted to use it also in MARC21
16:55 jcamins Do.
16:55 jcamins $4 will be increasingly important.
16:56 jcamins And Koha will be one of the first ILSes with *good* support for it.
16:56 jcamins It will be wonderful.
16:56 jcamins :)
16:58 fredericd So XSL patch coming... and an authorized values list :-)
16:58 jcamins It's bug...
16:58 fredericd for that: http://www.loc.gov/marc/relators/relacode.html
16:59 jcamins Bug 6299
16:59 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6299 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Provide a list of authorized values for relator terms
17:00 fredericd and for XSL anything you are aware of?
17:00 jcamins Not yet.
17:01 jcamins Actually, there was a patch to show that.
17:01 jcamins Bug 5711
17:01 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5711 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Distinction between authors/additional authors in opac normal view (MARC21/XSLT)
17:01 jcamins No patch yet.
17:02 fredericd Any reason why this patch hasn't been pushed on master? (6299)
17:02 jcamins Because I just revised it.
17:02 jcamins It failed QA due to some problems.
17:03 jcamins I fixed them.
17:03 jcamins And paul_p wasn't around pushing things this weekend.
17:03 jcamins fredericd: if you have a French translation, that'd be really useful.
17:04 fredericd jcamins++
17:04 schuster nengard did you get it to work? I'm thinking of another project I have that I could use that information in a different way.
17:04 fredericd jcamins: for the authorized values?
17:04 jcamins fredericd: right.
17:04 * jcamins suspects there's probably an official list.
17:04 * jcamins is not fluent in French, though.
17:05 fredericd For the time beeing there isn't even a translation of MARC default framework
17:05 jcamins Really?
17:05 jcamins Ewww.
17:05 fredericd French canadians seems to have something, but it hasn't been submitted yet as a patch
17:07 maximep working on it =)
17:08 jcamins maximep: while you're at it, you should do the French translation for bug 6299. :)
17:08 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6299 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Provide a list of authorized values for relator terms
17:09 maximep aaaaaaaah
17:09 jcamins :)
17:10 maximep already at 40 hours of translations for our upgrade to 3.6 and I have probably 10 hours more to do
17:11 fredericd I've update 6299 to point to the translation into French of relator codes :-)
17:11 jcamins Cool!
17:11 jcamins fredericd++
17:11 maximep nice
17:13 nengard_lunch schuster not really - well it might work, but i don't have enough info from the library
17:13 nengard_lunch i'll paste my report
17:13 fredericd Ok, I will submit a patch for an relator code authorized values list, in French...
17:14 jcamins Yay!
17:14 nengard_lunch schuster http://paste.koha-community.org/236
17:15 jcamins fredericd: I had a question about the UNIMARC part of bug 7284.
17:15 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements
17:15 jcamins (you revised it)
17:16 jcamins Does it still work (as much as it ever did) when using GRS-1 indexing for UNIMARC authoritiess?
17:16 paul_p 3M--
17:16 jcamins paul_p: agreed!
17:16 jcamins 3M--
17:16 paul_p still problems with 3M self-checkout at Lyon 3 universities
17:17 paul_p new idea : 3M french does not respect 3M specs, and a patch solving a mistake has broken everything for us...
17:17 paul_p Lyon 3 checking if we're right with this explanation
17:17 * paul_p should have a phone call in a few minuts...
17:17 * paul_p keep finger crossed
17:18 fredericd paul_p: I've got the same issue with a 3M SC. I can confirm the issue with Koha 3.6
17:19 paul_p fredericd what did you do ? comment $/='\015' ?
17:19 paul_p local $/ = "\015"; # proper SPEC: (octal) \015 = (hex) x0D = (dec) 13 = (ascii) carriage return
17:19 paul_p (line 157 of Sip.pm
17:19 paul_p )
17:20 fredericd I've used Koha 3.2 SIP2 server with a Koha 3.6 instance
17:20 fredericd the issue arises with Koha 3.4
17:20 paul_p fredericd shame on you, it's a dirty workaround ;-)
17:21 paul_p right : the \015 thing has been added on jan 2011
17:21 paul_p for between 3.2 and 3.4
17:21 paul_p s/for/so/
17:21 paul_p patch 3480ae1cacb23fee70257762c83bc3e241548f69
17:23 fredericd paul_p: not false...
17:24 paul_p fredericd i'll let you know in a few minuts if my hack works better.
17:24 paul_p fredericd hdl is asking me to ask you if you have a working pazpar2 setup, because he is fighting against pazpar2, and not winning...
17:25 rangi the spec does say \r .. and yup, works fine with NZ 3M (and us)
17:26 * rangi has 3 libraries with 3M self check machines using koha 3.6.x
17:26 fredericd paul_p: yes, I have
17:26 rangi (as well as overdrive and wheelers (ebook vendors))
17:27 oleonard rangi was roused from sleep by a disturbance in the Force generated by mention of 3M?
17:27 rangi heh, more like an excited boy who is off to his first day of school
17:28 jcamins Yay!
17:42 * rangi giggles
17:43 * magnuse wishes Kahu good luck
17:43 reiveune bye
17:43 cait oh
17:43 cait what does Kahu need luck for?
17:44 magnuse first day at school
17:44 cait ooh
17:44 cait good luck Kahu!
17:44 magnuse (unless i remember wrong and Kahu is the youngest?)
17:45 cait no that is atarau :)
17:45 rangi that's right :)
17:45 magnuse cool
17:45 schuster Oh the joys of first day of school!!! He'll be exhausted tonight!
17:45 magnuse big day
17:46 schuster My boys are always tired on Monday after the first day BACK to school... Guess I don't work them hard enough on the weekend!
17:46 rangi hehe
17:54 paul_p OK, I confirm that SIP in 3.2 work, and in 3.6 doesn't, at least for french 3M... will continue investigating tomorrow morning. Good bye world !
17:57 cait bye paul_p - good luck to you too
17:57 cait we want to update a 3m using library soon... interested in your findings
18:00 wizzyrea interesting, we've had no issues
18:00 wizzyrea with 3m machines
18:00 * wizzyrea hopes that software update they're trying to get doesn't break it.
18:03 fredericd jcamins: your author relator codes list isn't linked to 100 and 7xx in marc21_framework_DEFAULT.sql...
18:03 jcamins fredericd: not by default.
18:04 jcamins fredericd: they're also not installed by default.
18:05 jcamins The theory is, at least the authorized values list should be available for linking to the framework.
18:06 fredericd natürlish
18:06 cait natürlish? :)
18:06 fredericd that was for jcamins explanation...
18:07 jcamins Huh?
18:07 * jcamins supposes that was probably supposed to be a -ch. :)
18:08 fredericd natürlish = of course
18:08 jcamins :)
18:19 * fredericd added a patch for relator codes in French to bug 6299
18:19 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6299 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Provide a list of authorized values for relator terms
18:19 wizzyrea oh, like naturally?
18:19 magnuse nat�rlich?
18:21 magnuse wizzyrea: exaktlich!
18:22 wizzyrea :)
18:29 slef hi all!
18:29 cait h slef
18:29 slef busy times here... sorry for only returning when I've a question :-/
18:29 maximep fredericd: so what you want is a sql of our 2 marc structure tables ?
18:30 maximep hoping to get back to you on this by the end of the day
18:30 slef How-can/why-can/what-sense-does-it-make a subfield be mandatory when the tag is not?
18:32 jcamins slef: required if applicable?
18:32 jcamins slef: but I don't think we really represent that at all in Koha.
18:35 fredericd maximep: yes. I could package them in a patch for installer/data/mysql/fr-FR/marcflavour/marc21/Obligatoire directory
18:36 fredericd and update to be in sync with English version
18:40 slef jcamins: that might work but not sure that's how it's working. Let me explain what I've met...
18:41 slef I've some records that came in through bulkmarcimport and they don't have 942; however, as soon as opened in the biblio editor, they have a 942 and refuse to save, complaining about the lack of a 942$c.
18:42 cait that's normal - although I almost always change it
18:42 cait I set it to a default value in the frameworks most of the time, the normal itemtype that is used most often
18:43 slef Do you think I should fix the thing generating data for bulkmarcimport to include a 942$c, change the frameworks to not require it, report it as a bug, or what?
18:44 cait I am not sure
18:44 slef I think bulkmarcimport records go in as being default framework.
18:44 cait I think it makes sense to have it like that if you don't use item-level itypes
18:44 slef Not sure setting a default in the framework would help there.
18:44 slef I'm 99% sure this library uses item-level itypes.
18:44 slef Not sure if they mean to, but pretty sure they do ;-)
18:44 jcamins slef: fix bulkmarcimport.
18:45 slef jcamins: so I should get a 942$c into its input?
18:46 cait listen to jcamins - it's a cataloging question :)
18:46 * slef looks at how to figure out 942$c from what's already in the input
18:46 jcamins slef: I think there really *should* be 942$c in all records, so either put it into the MARC yourself, or have bulkmarcimport extract it from 952.
18:46 slef cait: yeah. It's not an obvious one for us programmers.
18:47 slef jcamins: hmmm, is there an argument for having bulkmarcimport take the first 952$y if there is no 942$c, or is that silly for a reason I don't see?
18:49 jcamins That sounds wise to me.
18:55 jcamins To clarify, the 942$c is not required by other ILSes.
18:55 slef well yeah, it's a 9xx
18:55 jcamins However, catalogers expect the item type to be automatically set, and if 942$c is not automatically set, you end up with a lot of {item type that begins with 'A'}.
18:55 slef in theory, anything with a 9 is local use isn't it?
18:56 jcamins Except for 490.
18:56 jcamins ;)
18:56 slef @marc 490
18:56 huginn` slef: A series statement for which no series added entry is traced or for which the added entry is traced in one of the 800-830 fields in a form different from the form contained in field 490. (Repeatable) [a,l,v,x,6,8]
18:56 slef that's a funny one... how did that happen?
18:56 * jcamins doesn't know, and is afraid to find out.
18:56 jcamins ;)
18:56 slef heh... IF YOU STARE TOO DEEPLY INTO MARC21, MARC21 STARES BACK INTO YOU!
18:58 wizzyrea @quote add slef: IF YOU STARE TOO DEEPLY INTO MARC21, MARC21 STARES BACK INTO YOU!
18:58 huginn` wizzyrea: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
18:59 wizzyrea hrmph
18:59 slef wizzyrea: yeah, I get that.
18:59 wizzyrea ez to fix :)
18:59 wizzyrea @quote get 23
18:59 huginn` wizzyrea: Quote #23: "<gmcharlt> /msg huginn register nick password" (added by wizzyrea_ at 04:25 PM, August 06, 2009)
18:59 jcamins My library school is rebranding itself.
18:59 wizzyrea @quote add slef: IF YOU STARE TOO DEEPLY INTO MARC21, MARC21 STARES BACK INTO YOU!
18:59 huginn` wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #184 added.
19:00 wizzyrea i win.
19:00 slef @quote add <wizzyrea> @quote get 23
19:00 huginn` slef: The operation succeeded. Quote #185 added.
19:00 wizzyrea that's so meta
19:00 wizzyrea @quote get 184
19:00 huginn` wizzyrea: Quote #184: "slef: IF YOU STARE TOO DEEPLY INTO MARC21, MARC21 STARES BACK INTO YOU!" (added by wizzyrea at 06:58 PM, January 30, 2012)
19:01 slef You mean "@quote get 185" is so meta?
19:01 wizzyrea yes
19:01 oleonard @quote get 185
19:01 huginn` oleonard: Quote #185: "<wizzyrea> @quote get 23" (added by slef at 06:59 PM, January 30, 2012)
19:01 wizzyrea :)
19:01 wizzyrea technically I suppose they both are in their way.
19:01 oleonard No chance of setting up an infinite loop then
19:01 slef tempting... very tempting...
19:01 * slef steps away from the bot
19:02 * wizzyrea protects huginn`
19:08 jcamins [off] Apparently my library school is not rebranding itself as a place where grammar is respected.
19:08 jcamins [off] "Anyone who had there photo taken for an ID at the orientation can pick up their ID's"
19:10 jcamins [off] sic, sic
19:14 slef [off] they're there using their there there when it should've been their there there?
19:14 jcamins lol
19:21 maximep oh man, for a sec I tought it was you that was writing this
19:23 jcamins maximep: no, not me.
19:24 jcamins [off] It is at odds with C & P's brand promise: we will display a modicum of literacy in our written communiques. :P
19:27 maximep a modicum ? I guess I learned a new word today
19:28 jcamins Yay!
19:33 * collum doesn't think he has ever heard the word 'communique' except on tv.
19:34 maximep well I knew that one because it'S probably from the french word communiqué
19:34 maximep well it is the exact same word it seems
19:40 schuster So if I have a script that I am cleaning up and going to submit to the community - I was going to provide some test data for the testers. Does that go in as part of the patch or attach the data to the bug for others to test?
19:40 schuster It is a patron loading script and I also am working on a picture loading script
19:41 jcamins Attach the data to the bug.
19:41 jcamins A picture loading script?
19:41 jcamins Doesn't upload-patron-images.pl work from the command line, too?
19:41 schuster I was looking for that where is it?
19:42 slef locate upload-patron-images.pl
19:42 slef oops
19:42 jcamins tools/
19:42 slef erm
19:43 slef picture-upload.pl ?
19:43 jcamins It's not?
19:43 jcamins That might be it.
19:43 schuster there it is!
19:43 slef cool. Had me worried.
19:43 slef biab
19:43 schuster thank you very much one headache out of the way now to seee how it works vs what I have.
19:44 jcamins schuster: I don't know how it works, I just think that it works from the command line, too.
19:46 schuster hmmm it doesn't look like a command line tool...
19:46 jcamins schuster: it might not work from the command line.
19:47 * jcamins confesses he couldn't really understand how the code works.
19:47 schuster I have 53000 borrowers that we upload patron images from a central database once a week so the one at a time or even the zip file process times out. So we have been using this as a command line cron job.
19:47 schuster I'm trying to make sure these "Special" things are available in community...
19:51 jcamins schuster++
19:53 jcamins That will be really useful for a lot of people, I think.
20:04 oleonard Hi kyle
20:05 kyle hello
20:06 oleonard @wunder 45701
20:06 huginn` oleonard: The current temperature in Ohio University, Athens, Ohio is 9.0�C (3:05 PM EST on January 30, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: -6.0�C. Windchill: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1017.8 hPa (Steady).
20:07 oleonard Feels like the temperature in my office.
20:07 schuster @wunder 75074
20:07 huginn` schuster: The current temperature in Brookview, Plano, Texas is 20.7�C (2:02 PM CST on January 30, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 33%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Pressure: 29.44 in 996.8 hPa (Steady).
20:10 * oleonard wonders why his Firefox is so crashy today
20:10 wizzyrea hi kyle!
20:11 kyle hello!
20:11 * rangi waves from the bus
20:12 * oleonard will brb
20:13 schuster hey kyle how goes Koha up there!
20:15 cait hi oleonard, kyle and rangi
20:29 librarygeekadam Good day. Quick question for anyone who can help me. I am getting ready to install koha on Ubuntu and ran perl Makefile.PL and got this warning - "Warning: prerequisite Locale::Currency::Format 1.28 not found" along with "PDF::API2::Simple 1 not found". Any ideas?
20:32 oleonard librarygeekadam: Install those things?
20:32 librarygeekadam i am testing that theory now to see if it fixes it
20:32 oleonard I'm not sure why those wouldn't have been automatically installed
20:32 librarygeekadam that's why i found it a little confusing
20:32 jcamins You're on Ubuntu 10.04?
20:32 slef hrrrrm... why is MARC21slim2OPACDetail.xsl executable?
20:33 librarygeekadam 11.10
20:33 jcamins slef: 'cause my patch to fix it got rejected.
20:33 slef jcamins: bug no?
20:33 jcamins librarygeekadam: odd. It should've been installed.
20:33 jcamins slef: oh yes.
20:33 * oleonard sees them in install_misc/debian.packages
20:33 jcamins Definitely a bug.
20:33 slef jcamins: bug number? ;)
20:33 rangi slef: yep def should be fixed
20:33 jcamins slef: I don't think it has one.
20:33 slef jcamins: so why rejected?
20:33 jcamins slef: I fixed it as part of another thing, and someone complained.
20:34 jcamins So I took the chmod -x out, and didn't get around to submitting separately.
20:34 slef jcamins: oh well a plague on both your houses ;)
20:34 jcamins It's been executable for a long time.
20:34 librarygeekadam ok well it went through this time
20:34 librarygeekadam no warnings
20:34 slef yeah, some contributor has done something silly like chmod 755 and snuck them in
20:34 slef I caught an httpd.conf a while back
20:34 librarygeekadam I just went back into cpan and used the install command to install the files it said I was missing then reran the perl Makefile.PL command
20:35 librarygeekadam thanks again! always a good helpful place to visit.
20:35 slef librarygeekadam: congratulations! Your package management system is now degraded! :-/
20:35 librarygeekadam why do you say that slef?
20:36 slef librarygeekadam: because dpkg/apt-get/aptitude/synaptic knows nothing of stuff installed with cpan install
20:36 slef librarygeekadam: but don't mind me. This is an argument I lost a long time ago ;-)
20:36 oleonard slef: why do you say that? We always choose packages wherever possible don't we?
20:36 * slef prefers dh-make-perl to cpan install
20:36 slef oleonard: no.
20:37 oleonard ...
20:37 cait but for ubuntu all should be available - no need for cpan
20:38 jcamins One of my developers has been using cpan for installing modules. I gave up on that. As long as he only uses modules that are packaged, that's good enough.
20:38 librarygeekadam cpan not good?
20:38 rangi cpan is fine as far as it goes
20:38 librarygeekadam i am not a developer or programer
20:38 rangi but if you have a debian system and there is a package available .. you should use that
20:38 jcamins It was the only option back on early versions of Solaris.
20:38 slef cpan is OK, but be aware that it is not managed by the usual package manager
20:39 rangi so dist-upgrade, or security releases you have to do all yourself
20:39 rangi not let apt-get do it for you
20:39 slef rangi: to be fair, you have to subscribe to release announcements for dh-make-perl'd packages too.
20:39 librarygeekadam i see...but don't understand entirely. Do I have to do these upgrades even after koha is up and running?
20:39 slef rangi: but doesn't http://debian.koha-community.org work on ubuntu too?
20:40 rangi yup
20:40 slef librarygeekadam: yes, if there's a security upgrade released.
20:40 rangi when i say debian i meant ubuntu/mint/whatever esle as well
20:40 rangi also there is a ppa
20:40 rangi https://launchpad.net/~koha/+archive/koha-stable
20:40 rangi which i need to update for 3.6.3
20:41 librarygeekadam well, I am only testing on Ubuntu/Apache server. our real server is something else that the guys in IT handle. I am just trying to get a working koha to play with so we can see if we like it.
20:42 * oleonard is still wondering what argument slef lost a long time ago
20:42 librarygeekadam i have a different question now if someone is willing...I just ran "make test" and received a Fail for the first time ever (also first time using 3.06.03)
20:43 librarygeekadam the error is "Non-zero exit status: 255 - Parse errors: Bad plan. You planned 5 tests but ran 1
20:44 librarygeekadam "make: ** [test_dynamic] Error 255
20:44 slef oleonard: to use dh-make-perl instead of cpan install.
20:44 slef oleonard: in other words, to use packages whenever possible.
20:44 jcamins slef: but we don't use cpan install for anything.
20:45 slef ok, twit-filter me: do any of .pm files, .sql files, .tt files, .plugin files, .inc files or .abs files need to be executable?
20:46 jcamins Other than .plugin, which I don't recognize, no.
20:46 slef I think maybe only .plugin?
20:46 jcamins I don't know what .plugin is.
20:46 cait the new tt plugin maybe?
20:46 rangi yeah the rest dont and i dont know about .plugin
20:46 slef reports/issues_by_borrower_category.plugin
20:46 rangi cait: nope
20:47 rangi ahhh
20:47 slef is an example
20:47 slef perl script
20:47 rangi yeah that maybe
20:48 librarygeekadam i am looking online and a lot of things say not to worry about the "error 255". Is that true?
20:49 slef @query executable
20:49 huginn` slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6874 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , File upload in MARC
20:49 huginn` slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1633 enhancement, P3, ---, kmkale, Pushed to Master , Add ability to take book cover images from local img db
20:49 huginn` slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7157 enhancement, P3, ---, wizzyrea, Pushed to Master , Improve the j2a.pl cronjob
20:49 huginn` slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6277 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , CustomLog by default
20:49 jcamins librarygeekadam: depends what the error is about.
20:49 librarygeekadam Non-zero exit status?
20:49 slef ok, someone remind me what version to report against? I'm working on master HEAD
20:50 slef is that master or rel_3_8?
20:50 jcamins Master.
20:50 jcamins librarygeekadam: there are hundreds if not thousands of tests.
20:50 jcamins You need to find out which test is failing.
20:50 librarygeekadam yeah i see it failed 1/92 and 0/7310
20:50 slef and I guess this is "Architecture, internals and plumbing"?
20:50 jcamins It should have said something like t/Koha_Cache.t somewhere.
20:50 jcamins slef: I think so.
20:51 slef can I run a shell script as a test easily?
20:51 jcamins slef: what do you mean?
20:51 jcamins Oh, you mean to put in xt/?
20:51 jcamins I don't know.
20:51 slef yeah
20:52 jcamins Probably not.
20:52 slef ah find-nonutf8 is a shell script
20:52 slef I guess it's OK
20:52 rangi yeah, xt/ is fine for shell i think
20:52 librarygeekadam t/Koha_template_plugin_KohaDates.t (Wstat: 652870 Tests: 1 Failed: 0)
20:53 librarygeekadam Non-zero exit status: 255
20:53 jcamins Ah.
20:53 jcamins Right.
20:53 librarygeekadam Parse Errors: bad plan. You planned 5 tests but ran 1
20:53 librarygeekadam Result: Fail
20:53 rangi thats the only one that fails?
20:53 librarygeekadam yeah
20:53 jcamins Yup. Bug 7359 strikes!
20:53 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7359 critical, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, Passed QA , Begin migration to a new "Koha" namespace from the old "C4" namespace
20:54 rangi you can safely ignore that then, it will be fixed soo
20:54 rangi n
20:54 librarygeekadam ok
20:54 librarygeekadam thank you!
20:54 librarygeekadam i kept redoing everything and kept getting the same result
20:58 slef why does koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/lib/yui/imageloader/imageloader.js have a stack of NULs on its end?
20:59 * jcamins would guess "by mistake"
21:00 * oleonard would guess "YUI is out to get you"
21:00 slef both of the above?
21:03 * oleonard will be very glad when we are rid of it
21:08 rangi slef++ #for the test script
21:08 cait slef++ :)
21:10 slef do Needs Signoff bugs not get announced here any more or am I just being impatient? ;-)
21:10 slef bug 7476
21:10 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7476 normal, P3, ---, mjr, Needs Signoff , Files executable that probably should not be
21:11 oleonard Not since the latest bug status overhaul slef
21:12 cait ah
21:12 slef who used to? huginn`?
21:12 oleonard Yes
21:13 slef huginn`: where's your source code?
21:13 huginn` slef: downloading the Perl source
21:13 cait slef: the wiki knows :)
21:13 oleonard http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars#Channel_Bots
21:13 cait ^^
21:13 oleonard bots?
21:13 wahanui bots are listed at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars
21:14 slef Ah, I was on http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Website_Administration#IRC_bot_.28huginn.29
21:14 * slef deduplicates
21:16 schuster when I run git pull do I have to be in any particular branch when I do that? showing his stupidity still.
21:17 rangi yes
21:17 rangi you have to be on the branch you want to merge into
21:17 rangi by default a git pull = git fetch + git merge
21:18 schuster so I should be in the master/origin branch when I pull to get all the new stuff?
21:18 librarygeekadam does anyone have a good webpage on uploading marc records to koha?
21:18 cait documentation?
21:18 wahanui documentation is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/
21:19 cait librarygeekadam: there should be a description in the manual :)
21:19 schuster good stuff there...
21:19 slef schuster: probably.
21:19 librarygeekadam thanks!
21:19 slef bwahahaha http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars#Channel_Bots has no more info
21:20 slef I give up.
21:20 schuster ok thanks all...
21:26 slef but then I can't talk because I've still not published the patches2bugs bot
21:27 cait I think perhaps drop gmcharlt a short mail?
21:27 slef yeah
21:28 rangi meeting time, bbiab
21:29 oleonard quitting time, back tomorrow. Or the next day.
21:29 cait bye oleonard
21:30 slef sent
21:30 slef ok, final mail check and I'm going to fall over too
21:35 jcamins Pretty late in Konstanz, too, I think.
21:35 cait heh
21:35 cait not that late!
21:37 paul_p patch pushed. Time to go to bed ;-)
21:37 paul_p bye #koha
21:40 cait night paul_p
21:41 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7460: Add template toolkit's FILTER html_line_break on opac details description... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e824f847b9a002dec24b48f076ce2b7d4a9dd5d5> / Bug 7446: Redundant display of availablecount in results.tt in staff client. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3ea42998cb28549e1dee5aab8f7e446ef80dc39c> / Bug 3806 - Holidays table doesn't order by d
21:46 jenkins_koha Starting build #605 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED)
22:17 magnuse g'night #koha
22:24 eythian hi
22:24 wahanui hi, eythian
22:26 cait morning eythian
22:26 cait good night #koha
22:26 eythian bye cait
22:36 rangi hi wizzyrea
22:38 hdl1 bye
22:40 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #605: SUCCESS in 54 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/605/
22:40 jenkins_koha * cnighswonger: Bug 7359 - Begin migration to a new "Koha" namespace from the old "C4" namespace
22:40 jenkins_koha * christophe.croullebois: Bug 7350: In neworderempty.pl duplicating an item does not preserve select box selections
22:40 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 3806 - Holidays table doesn't order by date correcly
22:40 jenkins_koha * ruth: Bug 7446: Redundant display of availablecount in results.tt in staff client.
22:40 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7359 critical, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Begin migration to a new "Koha" namespace from the old "C4" namespace
22:40 jenkins_koha * stephane.delaune: Bug 7460: Add template toolkit's FILTER html_line_break on opac details description's tab
22:40 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7350 normal, P3, ---, christophe.croullebois, Pushed to Master , In New order the "+" button duplicates input text but not the "selected" in ddl
22:40 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3806 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Holidays table doesn't order by date correcly
22:40 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7446 trivial, P5 - low, ---, ruth, Pushed to Master , Redundant display of availablecount in staff client (results.tt)
22:40 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7460 minor, P5 - low, ---, stephane.delaune, ASSIGNED , nl2br in opac Title notes tab
22:47 Judit morning
22:53 wizzyrea oh hello :)
22:53 wizzyrea wow
22:54 wizzyrea that's what I get for not paying attention
22:55 rangi ?
22:59 wizzyrea i miss my hellos :)
23:00 rangi ahh
23:00 rangi well check this out
23:00 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7327
23:00 huginn` 04Bug 7327: normal, P5 - low, ---, aleksa, Needs Signoff , Translation script doesn't like concatenated javascript strings
23:00 rangi :)
23:00 wizzyrea oo
23:01 slef is it public how much HLT raised last year when threatened?
23:01 rangi yeah i think so
23:01 rangi lemme look
23:01 rangi deadline is approaching fast so we should find out how that money was spent soon
23:02 rangi yup
23:02 rangi 12k
23:02 rangi http://koha-community.org/update-2/
23:02 slef NZD?
23:02 rangi afaik
23:04 slef thanks (I've another project saying, more-or-less, waah we have infringers extorting from us but there's no point in asking for money to fight it because no-one will give us money... so I'll point to HLT as a give-it-a-try counter-example)
23:04 rangi cool
23:04 rangi hope it helps
23:26 * wizzyrea is installing the en-NZ translation now for testing that bug. Maybe I'll be plucky and install german too.
23:28 rangi :)
23:30 slef Koha hat deine Speisegericht gegessen.
23:32 wizzyrea probably easier to spot mistranslations in german ;)
23:32 slef hrm?
23:34 wizzyrea nvm
23:34 wizzyrea not important
23:51 wizzyrea hmm will have to ask kf about that tomorrow - I must be doing something wrong.
23:52 rangi you probably have to recreate the .po file and translate the newly available translatable strings or something, but yeah id check with her
23:52 wizzyrea hmmmm good pt