Time Nick Message
23:52 wizzyrea hmmmm good pt
23:52 rangi you probably have to recreate the .po file and translate the newly available translatable strings or something, but yeah id check with her
23:51 wizzyrea hmm will have to ask kf about that tomorrow - I must be doing something wrong.
23:34 wizzyrea not important
23:34 wizzyrea nvm
23:32 slef hrm?
23:32 wizzyrea probably easier to spot mistranslations in german ;)
23:30 slef Koha hat deine Speisegericht gegessen.
23:28 rangi :)
23:26 * wizzyrea is installing the en-NZ translation now for testing that bug. Maybe I'll be plucky and install german too.
23:04 rangi hope it helps
23:04 rangi cool
23:04 slef thanks (I've another project saying, more-or-less, waah we have infringers extorting from us but there's no point in asking for money to fight it because no-one will give us money... so I'll point to HLT as a give-it-a-try counter-example)
23:02 rangi afaik
23:02 slef NZD?
23:02 rangi http://koha-community.org/update-2/
23:02 rangi 12k
23:02 rangi yup
23:01 rangi deadline is approaching fast so we should find out how that money was spent soon
23:01 rangi lemme look
23:01 rangi yeah i think so
23:01 slef is it public how much HLT raised last year when threatened?
23:00 wizzyrea oo
23:00 rangi :)
23:00 huginn` 04Bug 7327: normal, P5 - low, ---, aleksa, Needs Signoff , Translation script doesn't like concatenated javascript strings
23:00 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7327
23:00 rangi well check this out
23:00 rangi ahh
22:59 wizzyrea i miss my hellos :)
22:55 rangi ?
22:54 wizzyrea that's what I get for not paying attention
22:53 wizzyrea wow
22:53 wizzyrea oh hello :)
22:47 Judit morning
22:40 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7460 minor, P5 - low, ---, stephane.delaune, ASSIGNED , nl2br in opac Title notes tab
22:40 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7446 trivial, P5 - low, ---, ruth, Pushed to Master , Redundant display of availablecount in staff client (results.tt)
22:40 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3806 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Holidays table doesn't order by date correcly
22:40 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7350 normal, P3, ---, christophe.croullebois, Pushed to Master , In New order the "+" button duplicates input text but not the "selected" in ddl
22:40 jenkins_koha * stephane.delaune: Bug 7460: Add template toolkit's FILTER html_line_break on opac details description's tab
22:40 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7359 critical, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Begin migration to a new "Koha" namespace from the old "C4" namespace
22:40 jenkins_koha * ruth: Bug 7446: Redundant display of availablecount in results.tt in staff client.
22:40 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 3806 - Holidays table doesn't order by date correcly
22:40 jenkins_koha * christophe.croullebois: Bug 7350: In neworderempty.pl duplicating an item does not preserve select box selections
22:40 jenkins_koha * cnighswonger: Bug 7359 - Begin migration to a new "Koha" namespace from the old "C4" namespace
22:40 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #605: SUCCESS in 54 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/605/
22:38 hdl1 bye
22:36 rangi hi wizzyrea
22:26 eythian bye cait
22:26 cait good night #koha
22:26 cait morning eythian
22:24 wahanui hi, eythian
22:24 eythian hi
22:17 magnuse g'night #koha
21:46 jenkins_koha Starting build #605 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED)
21:41 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7460: Add template toolkit's FILTER html_line_break on opac details description... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e824f847b9a002dec24b48f076ce2b7d4a9dd5d5> / Bug 7446: Redundant display of availablecount in results.tt in staff client. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3ea42998cb28549e1dee5aab8f7e446ef80dc39c> / Bug 3806 - Holidays table doesn't order by d
21:40 cait night paul_p
21:37 paul_p bye #koha
21:37 paul_p patch pushed. Time to go to bed ;-)
21:35 cait not that late!
21:35 cait heh
21:35 jcamins Pretty late in Konstanz, too, I think.
21:30 slef ok, final mail check and I'm going to fall over too
21:30 slef sent
21:29 cait bye oleonard
21:29 oleonard quitting time, back tomorrow. Or the next day.
21:28 rangi meeting time, bbiab
21:27 slef yeah
21:27 cait I think perhaps drop gmcharlt a short mail?
21:26 slef but then I can't talk because I've still not published the patches2bugs bot
21:20 schuster ok thanks all...
21:20 slef I give up.
21:19 slef bwahahaha http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars#Channel_Bots has no more info
21:19 librarygeekadam thanks!
21:19 slef schuster: probably.
21:19 schuster good stuff there...
21:19 cait librarygeekadam: there should be a description in the manual :)
21:18 wahanui documentation is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/
21:18 cait documentation?
21:18 librarygeekadam does anyone have a good webpage on uploading marc records to koha?
21:18 schuster so I should be in the master/origin branch when I pull to get all the new stuff?
21:17 rangi by default a git pull = git fetch + git merge
21:17 rangi you have to be on the branch you want to merge into
21:17 rangi yes
21:16 schuster when I run git pull do I have to be in any particular branch when I do that? showing his stupidity still.
21:14 * slef deduplicates
21:14 slef Ah, I was on http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Website_Administration#IRC_bot_.28huginn.29
21:13 wahanui bots are listed at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars
21:13 oleonard bots?
21:13 cait ^^
21:13 oleonard http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars#Channel_Bots
21:13 cait slef: the wiki knows :)
21:13 huginn` slef: downloading the Perl source
21:13 slef huginn`: where's your source code?
21:12 oleonard Yes
21:12 slef who used to? huginn`?
21:12 cait ah
21:11 oleonard Not since the latest bug status overhaul slef
21:10 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7476 normal, P3, ---, mjr, Needs Signoff , Files executable that probably should not be
21:10 slef bug 7476
21:10 slef do Needs Signoff bugs not get announced here any more or am I just being impatient? ;-)
21:08 cait slef++ :)
21:08 rangi slef++ #for the test script
21:03 * oleonard will be very glad when we are rid of it
21:00 slef both of the above?
21:00 * oleonard would guess "YUI is out to get you"
20:59 * jcamins would guess "by mistake"
20:58 slef why does koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/lib/yui/imageloader/imageloader.js have a stack of NULs on its end?
20:54 librarygeekadam i kept redoing everything and kept getting the same result
20:54 librarygeekadam thank you!
20:54 librarygeekadam ok
20:54 rangi n
20:54 rangi you can safely ignore that then, it will be fixed soo
20:53 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7359 critical, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, Passed QA , Begin migration to a new "Koha" namespace from the old "C4" namespace
20:53 jcamins Yup. Bug 7359 strikes!
20:53 librarygeekadam yeah
20:53 rangi thats the only one that fails?
20:53 librarygeekadam Result: Fail
20:53 librarygeekadam Parse Errors: bad plan. You planned 5 tests but ran 1
20:53 jcamins Right.
20:53 jcamins Ah.
20:53 librarygeekadam Non-zero exit status: 255
20:52 librarygeekadam t/Koha_template_plugin_KohaDates.t (Wstat: 652870 Tests: 1 Failed: 0)
20:52 rangi yeah, xt/ is fine for shell i think
20:52 slef I guess it's OK
20:52 slef ah find-nonutf8 is a shell script
20:52 jcamins Probably not.
20:51 slef yeah
20:51 jcamins I don't know.
20:51 jcamins Oh, you mean to put in xt/?
20:51 jcamins slef: what do you mean?
20:51 slef can I run a shell script as a test easily?
20:50 jcamins slef: I think so.
20:50 jcamins It should have said something like t/Koha_Cache.t somewhere.
20:50 slef and I guess this is "Architecture, internals and plumbing"?
20:50 librarygeekadam yeah i see it failed 1/92 and 0/7310
20:50 jcamins You need to find out which test is failing.
20:50 jcamins librarygeekadam: there are hundreds if not thousands of tests.
20:50 jcamins Master.
20:50 slef is that master or rel_3_8?
20:49 slef ok, someone remind me what version to report against? I'm working on master HEAD
20:49 librarygeekadam Non-zero exit status?
20:49 jcamins librarygeekadam: depends what the error is about.
20:49 huginn` slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6277 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , CustomLog by default
20:49 huginn` slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7157 enhancement, P3, ---, wizzyrea, Pushed to Master , Improve the j2a.pl cronjob
20:49 huginn` slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1633 enhancement, P3, ---, kmkale, Pushed to Master , Add ability to take book cover images from local img db
20:49 huginn` slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6874 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , File upload in MARC
20:49 slef @query executable
20:48 librarygeekadam i am looking online and a lot of things say not to worry about the "error 255". Is that true?
20:47 rangi yeah that maybe
20:47 slef perl script
20:47 slef is an example
20:47 rangi ahhh
20:46 rangi cait: nope
20:46 slef reports/issues_by_borrower_category.plugin
20:46 rangi yeah the rest dont and i dont know about .plugin
20:46 cait the new tt plugin maybe?
20:46 jcamins I don't know what .plugin is.
20:46 slef I think maybe only .plugin?
20:46 jcamins Other than .plugin, which I don't recognize, no.
20:45 slef ok, twit-filter me: do any of .pm files, .sql files, .tt files, .plugin files, .inc files or .abs files need to be executable?
20:44 jcamins slef: but we don't use cpan install for anything.
20:44 slef oleonard: in other words, to use packages whenever possible.
20:44 slef oleonard: to use dh-make-perl instead of cpan install.
20:44 librarygeekadam "make: ** [test_dynamic] Error 255
20:43 librarygeekadam the error is "Non-zero exit status: 255 - Parse errors: Bad plan. You planned 5 tests but ran 1
20:42 librarygeekadam i have a different question now if someone is willing...I just ran "make test" and received a Fail for the first time ever (also first time using 3.06.03)
20:42 * oleonard is still wondering what argument slef lost a long time ago
20:41 librarygeekadam well, I am only testing on Ubuntu/Apache server. our real server is something else that the guys in IT handle. I am just trying to get a working koha to play with so we can see if we like it.
20:40 rangi which i need to update for 3.6.3
20:40 rangi https://launchpad.net/~koha/+archive/koha-stable
20:40 rangi also there is a ppa
20:40 rangi when i say debian i meant ubuntu/mint/whatever esle as well
20:40 slef librarygeekadam: yes, if there's a security upgrade released.
20:40 rangi yup
20:39 slef rangi: but doesn't http://debian.koha-community.org work on ubuntu too?
20:39 librarygeekadam i see...but don't understand entirely. Do I have to do these upgrades even after koha is up and running?
20:39 slef rangi: to be fair, you have to subscribe to release announcements for dh-make-perl'd packages too.
20:39 rangi not let apt-get do it for you
20:39 rangi so dist-upgrade, or security releases you have to do all yourself
20:38 slef cpan is OK, but be aware that it is not managed by the usual package manager
20:38 jcamins It was the only option back on early versions of Solaris.
20:38 rangi but if you have a debian system and there is a package available .. you should use that
20:38 librarygeekadam i am not a developer or programer
20:38 rangi cpan is fine as far as it goes
20:38 librarygeekadam cpan not good?
20:38 jcamins One of my developers has been using cpan for installing modules. I gave up on that. As long as he only uses modules that are packaged, that's good enough.
20:37 cait but for ubuntu all should be available - no need for cpan
20:37 oleonard ...
20:36 slef oleonard: no.
20:36 * slef prefers dh-make-perl to cpan install
20:36 oleonard slef: why do you say that? We always choose packages wherever possible don't we?
20:36 slef librarygeekadam: but don't mind me. This is an argument I lost a long time ago ;-)
20:36 slef librarygeekadam: because dpkg/apt-get/aptitude/synaptic knows nothing of stuff installed with cpan install
20:35 librarygeekadam why do you say that slef?
20:35 slef librarygeekadam: congratulations! Your package management system is now degraded! :-/
20:35 librarygeekadam thanks again! always a good helpful place to visit.
20:34 librarygeekadam I just went back into cpan and used the install command to install the files it said I was missing then reran the perl Makefile.PL command
20:34 slef I caught an httpd.conf a while back
20:34 slef yeah, some contributor has done something silly like chmod 755 and snuck them in
20:34 librarygeekadam no warnings
20:34 librarygeekadam ok well it went through this time
20:34 jcamins It's been executable for a long time.
20:34 slef jcamins: oh well a plague on both your houses ;)
20:34 jcamins So I took the chmod -x out, and didn't get around to submitting separately.
20:33 jcamins slef: I fixed it as part of another thing, and someone complained.
20:33 slef jcamins: so why rejected?
20:33 jcamins slef: I don't think it has one.
20:33 rangi slef: yep def should be fixed
20:33 slef jcamins: bug number? ;)
20:33 jcamins Definitely a bug.
20:33 * oleonard sees them in install_misc/debian.packages
20:33 jcamins slef: oh yes.
20:33 jcamins librarygeekadam: odd. It should've been installed.
20:33 slef jcamins: bug no?
20:33 jcamins slef: 'cause my patch to fix it got rejected.
20:33 librarygeekadam 11.10
20:32 slef hrrrrm... why is MARC21slim2OPACDetail.xsl executable?
20:32 jcamins You're on Ubuntu 10.04?
20:32 librarygeekadam that's why i found it a little confusing
20:32 oleonard I'm not sure why those wouldn't have been automatically installed
20:32 librarygeekadam i am testing that theory now to see if it fixes it
20:32 oleonard librarygeekadam: Install those things?
20:29 librarygeekadam Good day. Quick question for anyone who can help me. I am getting ready to install koha on Ubuntu and ran perl Makefile.PL and got this warning - "Warning: prerequisite Locale::Currency::Format 1.28 not found" along with "PDF::API2::Simple 1 not found". Any ideas?
20:15 cait hi oleonard, kyle and rangi
20:13 schuster hey kyle how goes Koha up there!
20:12 * oleonard will brb
20:11 * rangi waves from the bus
20:11 kyle hello!
20:10 wizzyrea hi kyle!
20:10 * oleonard wonders why his Firefox is so crashy today
20:07 huginn` schuster: The current temperature in Brookview, Plano, Texas is 20.7�C (2:02 PM CST on January 30, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 33%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Pressure: 29.44 in 996.8 hPa (Steady).
20:07 schuster @wunder 75074
20:07 oleonard Feels like the temperature in my office.
20:06 huginn` oleonard: The current temperature in Ohio University, Athens, Ohio is 9.0�C (3:05 PM EST on January 30, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: -6.0�C. Windchill: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1017.8 hPa (Steady).
20:06 oleonard @wunder 45701
20:05 kyle hello
20:04 oleonard Hi kyle
19:53 jcamins That will be really useful for a lot of people, I think.
19:51 jcamins schuster++
19:47 schuster I'm trying to make sure these "Special" things are available in community...
19:47 schuster I have 53000 borrowers that we upload patron images from a central database once a week so the one at a time or even the zip file process times out. So we have been using this as a command line cron job.
19:47 * jcamins confesses he couldn't really understand how the code works.
19:46 jcamins schuster: it might not work from the command line.
19:46 schuster hmmm it doesn't look like a command line tool...
19:44 jcamins schuster: I don't know how it works, I just think that it works from the command line, too.
19:43 schuster thank you very much one headache out of the way now to seee how it works vs what I have.
19:43 slef biab
19:43 slef cool. Had me worried.
19:43 schuster there it is!
19:43 jcamins That might be it.
19:43 jcamins It's not?
19:43 slef picture-upload.pl ?
19:42 slef erm
19:42 jcamins tools/
19:42 slef oops
19:42 slef locate upload-patron-images.pl
19:41 schuster I was looking for that where is it?
19:41 jcamins Doesn't upload-patron-images.pl work from the command line, too?
19:41 jcamins A picture loading script?
19:41 jcamins Attach the data to the bug.
19:40 schuster It is a patron loading script and I also am working on a picture loading script
19:40 schuster So if I have a script that I am cleaning up and going to submit to the community - I was going to provide some test data for the testers. Does that go in as part of the patch or attach the data to the bug for others to test?
19:34 maximep well it is the exact same word it seems
19:34 maximep well I knew that one because it'S probably from the french word communiqué
19:33 * collum doesn't think he has ever heard the word 'communique' except on tv.
19:28 jcamins Yay!
19:27 maximep a modicum ? I guess I learned a new word today
19:24 jcamins [off] It is at odds with C & P's brand promise: we will display a modicum of literacy in our written communiques. :P
19:23 jcamins maximep: no, not me.
19:21 maximep oh man, for a sec I tought it was you that was writing this
19:14 jcamins lol
19:14 slef [off] they're there using their there there when it should've been their there there?
19:10 jcamins [off] sic, sic
19:08 jcamins [off] "Anyone who had there photo taken for an ID at the orientation can pick up their ID's"
19:08 jcamins [off] Apparently my library school is not rebranding itself as a place where grammar is respected.
19:02 * wizzyrea protects huginn`
19:01 * slef steps away from the bot
19:01 slef tempting... very tempting...
19:01 oleonard No chance of setting up an infinite loop then
19:01 wizzyrea technically I suppose they both are in their way.
19:01 wizzyrea :)
19:01 huginn` oleonard: Quote #185: "<wizzyrea> @quote get 23" (added by slef at 06:59 PM, January 30, 2012)
19:01 oleonard @quote get 185
19:01 wizzyrea yes
19:01 slef You mean "@quote get 185" is so meta?
19:00 huginn` wizzyrea: Quote #184: "slef: IF YOU STARE TOO DEEPLY INTO MARC21, MARC21 STARES BACK INTO YOU!" (added by wizzyrea at 06:58 PM, January 30, 2012)
19:00 wizzyrea @quote get 184
19:00 wizzyrea that's so meta
19:00 huginn` slef: The operation succeeded. Quote #185 added.
19:00 slef @quote add <wizzyrea> @quote get 23
19:00 wizzyrea i win.
18:59 huginn` wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #184 added.
18:59 wizzyrea @quote add slef: IF YOU STARE TOO DEEPLY INTO MARC21, MARC21 STARES BACK INTO YOU!
18:59 jcamins My library school is rebranding itself.
18:59 huginn` wizzyrea: Quote #23: "<gmcharlt> /msg huginn register nick password" (added by wizzyrea_ at 04:25 PM, August 06, 2009)
18:59 wizzyrea @quote get 23
18:59 wizzyrea ez to fix :)
18:59 slef wizzyrea: yeah, I get that.
18:59 wizzyrea hrmph
18:58 huginn` wizzyrea: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
18:58 wizzyrea @quote add slef: IF YOU STARE TOO DEEPLY INTO MARC21, MARC21 STARES BACK INTO YOU!
18:56 slef heh... IF YOU STARE TOO DEEPLY INTO MARC21, MARC21 STARES BACK INTO YOU!
18:56 jcamins ;)
18:56 * jcamins doesn't know, and is afraid to find out.
18:56 slef that's a funny one... how did that happen?
18:56 huginn` slef: A series statement for which no series added entry is traced or for which the added entry is traced in one of the 800-830 fields in a form different from the form contained in field 490. (Repeatable) [a,l,v,x,6,8]
18:56 slef @marc 490
18:56 jcamins ;)
18:56 jcamins Except for 490.
18:55 slef in theory, anything with a 9 is local use isn't it?
18:55 jcamins However, catalogers expect the item type to be automatically set, and if 942$c is not automatically set, you end up with a lot of {item type that begins with 'A'}.
18:55 slef well yeah, it's a 9xx
18:55 jcamins To clarify, the 942$c is not required by other ILSes.
18:49 jcamins That sounds wise to me.
18:47 slef jcamins: hmmm, is there an argument for having bulkmarcimport take the first 952$y if there is no 942$c, or is that silly for a reason I don't see?
18:46 slef cait: yeah. It's not an obvious one for us programmers.
18:46 jcamins slef: I think there really *should* be 942$c in all records, so either put it into the MARC yourself, or have bulkmarcimport extract it from 952.
18:46 * slef looks at how to figure out 942$c from what's already in the input
18:46 cait listen to jcamins - it's a cataloging question :)
18:45 slef jcamins: so I should get a 942$c into its input?
18:44 jcamins slef: fix bulkmarcimport.
18:44 slef Not sure if they mean to, but pretty sure they do ;-)
18:44 slef I'm 99% sure this library uses item-level itypes.
18:44 slef Not sure setting a default in the framework would help there.
18:44 cait I think it makes sense to have it like that if you don't use item-level itypes
18:44 slef I think bulkmarcimport records go in as being default framework.
18:44 cait I am not sure
18:43 slef Do you think I should fix the thing generating data for bulkmarcimport to include a 942$c, change the frameworks to not require it, report it as a bug, or what?
18:42 cait I set it to a default value in the frameworks most of the time, the normal itemtype that is used most often
18:42 cait that's normal - although I almost always change it
18:41 slef I've some records that came in through bulkmarcimport and they don't have 942; however, as soon as opened in the biblio editor, they have a 942 and refuse to save, complaining about the lack of a 942$c.
18:40 slef jcamins: that might work but not sure that's how it's working. Let me explain what I've met...
18:36 fredericd and update to be in sync with English version
18:35 fredericd maximep: yes. I could package them in a patch for installer/data/mysql/fr-FR/marcflavour/marc21/Obligatoire directory
18:32 jcamins slef: but I don't think we really represent that at all in Koha.
18:32 jcamins slef: required if applicable?
18:30 slef How-can/why-can/what-sense-does-it-make a subfield be mandatory when the tag is not?
18:30 maximep hoping to get back to you on this by the end of the day
18:29 maximep fredericd: so what you want is a sql of our 2 marc structure tables ?
18:29 slef busy times here... sorry for only returning when I've a question :-/
18:29 cait h slef
18:29 slef hi all!
18:22 wizzyrea :)
18:21 magnuse wizzyrea: exaktlich!
18:19 magnuse nat�rlich?
18:19 wizzyrea oh, like naturally?
18:19 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6299 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Provide a list of authorized values for relator terms
18:19 * fredericd added a patch for relator codes in French to bug 6299
18:08 jcamins :)
18:08 fredericd natürlish = of course
18:07 * jcamins supposes that was probably supposed to be a -ch. :)
18:07 jcamins Huh?
18:06 fredericd that was for jcamins explanation...
18:06 cait natürlish? :)
18:06 fredericd natürlish
18:05 jcamins The theory is, at least the authorized values list should be available for linking to the framework.
18:04 jcamins fredericd: they're also not installed by default.
18:03 jcamins fredericd: not by default.
18:03 fredericd jcamins: your author relator codes list isn't linked to 100 and 7xx in marc21_framework_DEFAULT.sql...
18:00 * wizzyrea hopes that software update they're trying to get doesn't break it.
18:00 wizzyrea with 3m machines
18:00 wizzyrea interesting, we've had no issues
17:57 cait we want to update a 3m using library soon... interested in your findings
17:57 cait bye paul_p - good luck to you too
17:54 paul_p OK, I confirm that SIP in 3.2 work, and in 3.6 doesn't, at least for french 3M... will continue investigating tomorrow morning. Good bye world !
17:46 rangi hehe
17:46 schuster My boys are always tired on Monday after the first day BACK to school... Guess I don't work them hard enough on the weekend!
17:45 magnuse big day
17:45 schuster Oh the joys of first day of school!!! He'll be exhausted tonight!
17:45 magnuse cool
17:45 rangi that's right :)
17:45 cait no that is atarau :)
17:44 magnuse (unless i remember wrong and Kahu is the youngest?)
17:44 cait good luck Kahu!
17:44 cait ooh
17:44 magnuse first day at school
17:43 cait what does Kahu need luck for?
17:43 cait oh
17:43 reiveune bye
17:43 * magnuse wishes Kahu good luck
17:42 * rangi giggles
17:28 jcamins Yay!
17:27 rangi heh, more like an excited boy who is off to his first day of school
17:27 oleonard rangi was roused from sleep by a disturbance in the Force generated by mention of 3M?
17:26 rangi (as well as overdrive and wheelers (ebook vendors))
17:26 fredericd paul_p: yes, I have
17:26 * rangi has 3 libraries with 3M self check machines using koha 3.6.x
17:25 rangi the spec does say \r .. and yup, works fine with NZ 3M (and us)
17:24 paul_p fredericd hdl is asking me to ask you if you have a working pazpar2 setup, because he is fighting against pazpar2, and not winning...
17:24 paul_p fredericd i'll let you know in a few minuts if my hack works better.
17:23 fredericd paul_p: not false...
17:21 paul_p patch 3480ae1cacb23fee70257762c83bc3e241548f69
17:21 paul_p s/for/so/
17:21 paul_p for between 3.2 and 3.4
17:21 paul_p right : the \015 thing has been added on jan 2011
17:20 paul_p fredericd shame on you, it's a dirty workaround ;-)
17:20 fredericd the issue arises with Koha 3.4
17:20 fredericd I've used Koha 3.2 SIP2 server with a Koha 3.6 instance
17:19 paul_p )
17:19 paul_p (line 157 of Sip.pm
17:19 paul_p local $/ = "\015"; # proper SPEC: (octal) \015 = (hex) x0D = (dec) 13 = (ascii) carriage return
17:19 paul_p fredericd what did you do ? comment $/='\015' ?
17:18 fredericd paul_p: I've got the same issue with a 3M SC. I can confirm the issue with Koha 3.6
17:17 * paul_p keep finger crossed
17:17 * paul_p should have a phone call in a few minuts...
17:17 paul_p Lyon 3 checking if we're right with this explanation
17:17 paul_p new idea : 3M french does not respect 3M specs, and a patch solving a mistake has broken everything for us...
17:16 paul_p still problems with 3M self-checkout at Lyon 3 universities
17:16 jcamins 3M--
17:16 jcamins paul_p: agreed!
17:16 paul_p 3M--
17:16 jcamins Does it still work (as much as it ever did) when using GRS-1 indexing for UNIMARC authoritiess?
17:15 jcamins (you revised it)
17:15 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements
17:15 jcamins fredericd: I had a question about the UNIMARC part of bug 7284.
17:14 nengard_lunch schuster http://paste.koha-community.org/236
17:14 jcamins Yay!
17:13 fredericd Ok, I will submit a patch for an relator code authorized values list, in French...
17:13 nengard_lunch i'll paste my report
17:13 nengard_lunch schuster not really - well it might work, but i don't have enough info from the library
17:11 maximep nice
17:11 jcamins fredericd++
17:11 jcamins Cool!
17:11 fredericd I've update 6299 to point to the translation into French of relator codes :-)
17:10 maximep already at 40 hours of translations for our upgrade to 3.6 and I have probably 10 hours more to do
17:09 jcamins :)
17:09 maximep aaaaaaaah
17:08 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6299 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Provide a list of authorized values for relator terms
17:08 jcamins maximep: while you're at it, you should do the French translation for bug 6299. :)
17:07 maximep working on it =)
17:05 fredericd French canadians seems to have something, but it hasn't been submitted yet as a patch
17:05 jcamins Ewww.
17:05 jcamins Really?
17:05 fredericd For the time beeing there isn't even a translation of MARC default framework
17:04 * jcamins is not fluent in French, though.
17:04 * jcamins suspects there's probably an official list.
17:04 jcamins fredericd: right.
17:04 fredericd jcamins: for the authorized values?
17:04 schuster nengard did you get it to work? I'm thinking of another project I have that I could use that information in a different way.
17:04 fredericd jcamins++
17:03 jcamins fredericd: if you have a French translation, that'd be really useful.
17:03 jcamins And paul_p wasn't around pushing things this weekend.
17:03 jcamins I fixed them.
17:02 jcamins It failed QA due to some problems.
17:02 jcamins Because I just revised it.
17:02 fredericd Any reason why this patch hasn't been pushed on master? (6299)
17:01 jcamins No patch yet.
17:01 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5711 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Distinction between authors/additional authors in opac normal view (MARC21/XSLT)
17:01 jcamins Bug 5711
17:01 jcamins Actually, there was a patch to show that.
17:00 jcamins Not yet.
17:00 fredericd and for XSL anything you are aware of?
16:59 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6299 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Provide a list of authorized values for relator terms
16:59 jcamins Bug 6299
16:58 fredericd for that: http://www.loc.gov/marc/relators/relacode.html
16:58 jcamins It's bug...
16:58 fredericd So XSL patch coming... and an authorized values list :-)
16:56 jcamins :)
16:56 jcamins It will be wonderful.
16:56 jcamins And Koha will be one of the first ILSes with *good* support for it.
16:55 jcamins $4 will be increasingly important.
16:55 jcamins Do.
16:54 fredericd I'm migrating a catalog from UNIMARC to MARC21, and since in UNIMARC there is an equivalent $4 subfield, and a used one, I'm tempted to use it also in MARC21
16:53 jcamins And other ILSes don't support it either.
16:53 fredericd ok, intersting
16:53 jcamins I use it a lot.
16:53 jcamins It's newish.
16:53 fredericd Why is there so few MARC21 biblio records using this field?
16:52 jcamins I just signed off on it.
16:51 jcamins There's a bug for adding authoirzed values.
16:51 jcamins Very important for RDA.
16:51 jcamins Yes, $4 is used for relator trms.
16:50 fredericd Is it a good idea to use $4 at all?
16:49 fredericd It isn't decoded in XSL
16:49 fredericd In Koha, there is no autorized values for this subfield
16:49 fredericd thanks...
16:49 fredericd But I don't see that much marc21 biblios using this letter
16:49 jcamins fredericd: I'm here.
16:49 fredericd I can see that author fields (100, 70x) may have a $4 subfield
16:48 fredericd Any MARC21 specialist around?
16:48 kf bye all
16:16 schuster wizzyrea nengard - I was wondering about like that always gets me when I do the truncation
16:15 jcamins schuster: zebra isn't going anywhere.
16:15 jcamins schuster: no, it would be worth it.
16:15 nengard thanks!
16:15 wizzyrea may be helpful.
16:14 wizzyrea nengard: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3579760/mysql-case-in-select-statement-with-like-operator
16:14 schuster thanks jcamins - and if zebra were to change to the "proposed biblibre" indexing option then it wouldn't be worth it!
16:13 * magnuse would applaud jcamins if he did
16:09 jcamins schuster: I'd like to redo rebuild_zebra to use POD at some point.
16:08 jcamins schuster: use POD.
16:07 kf sorry nengard, no time today
16:04 schuster just to clarify they didn't do anything with their collection/location codes to match that?
16:01 nengard kf ^
16:01 nengard looking for some report help again - anyone around who can help? (16 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/235
16:00 kf http://perldoc.perl.org/perlpod.html
16:00 kf yes, I think it's called POD (plain old documentation)
15:59 schuster they used the =head1 NAME configuration as well so I'll go that way!
15:58 schuster Starting in the dark so everything is helpful!
15:58 kf hope it's helpful :)
15:58 kf yvw
15:58 schuster Thanks for the response!
15:57 kf this is quite new
15:57 kf http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=misc/cronjobs/j2a.pl;h=87edaa4bb7a25ba4e727400eaba896d2f9836d9e;hb=fe1a642a1a06c38b55c2666ead4f4ff4ea3658da
15:57 kf I would look at newer scripts and how they do that
15:56 kf and you will also want to use something to make it put out the commands when typing -h
15:56 kf I think the =head is the POD
15:51 schuster is there a preference? or more guidance?
15:51 schuster I looked at the rebuild_zebra and it basically did a sub print_usage { and then put all the options there and closed it _USAGE_ }
15:50 schuster A programmer here in Plano used =head1 NAME and then put the information describing what it was doing... fancy formating...
15:49 schuster I found the guidelines for command line scripts, but my question has more to do with how to insert that information into the .pl
15:49 schuster Question about command line scripts - I have a couple that I am looking at committing, but being a good citizen am trying to document the correctly.
15:28 pastebot "nengard" at 98.114.30.184 pasted "looking for some report help again - anyone around who can help?" (16 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/235
15:23 oleonard Not sure why I suddenly got a bee in my bonnet about that one.
15:22 magnuse oleonard++
15:18 nengard cool
15:17 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3215 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , It would be nice if "Add to Cart" changed to "Remove from Cart"
15:17 * oleonard is very pleased to submit a fix for Bug 3215
15:16 nengard don't remember where i read that
15:16 nengard good to know
15:16 nengard okey dokey
15:16 oleonard nengard: I don't think so. The template builds a direct link to the image file on Amazon.com
15:16 nengard if not then great!
15:16 nengard oleonard i thought that they required the associate id for the covers (sorry got sidetracked)
15:09 kf hi wizzyrea :)
15:08 magnuse kia ora!
15:07 wizzyrea hi :)
15:06 * magnuse waves to wizzyrea as she wizzes past...
14:38 oleonard Amazon covers are the only thing that work right now
14:38 oleonard Amazon now requires associate id for what?
14:36 nengard amazon question - amazon now requires associate id be filled in - we say in the sys prefs that you sign up at aws.amazon.com but i'm not seeing an associate id there - i think you have to sign up at https://affiliate-program.amazon.com/ for the associate id - can anyone confirm/correct me?
14:33 druthb oleonard++
14:33 magnuse yay!
14:32 oleonard If anything it's good news for us: We're competitive on the basis of functionality rather than ideology
14:29 magnuse yeah, pointing out the disparity would be much better than drawing a conclusion based on one side of the story
14:29 * druthb , having met Marshall in-person, refrains from coloring the conversation with her own opinions...but she is unsurprised by the seeming contradiction that oleonard points out.
14:28 oleonard And yet he chooses to base his conclusion on one data point which is directly contradicted by another.
14:28 magnuse :-)
14:27 druthb Sounds like the libraries for whom the open-source angle is not a big part of their decision. These are the ones that, when you start talking about FLOSS, say, "yes, yes, that's nice...now, does it *work*?"
14:24 magnuse so when libraries are asked "are you planning on migrating to a FLOSS ILS" they say no, and when they are asked what systems they plan to migrate to they say koha and evergeen? makes perfect sense to me...
13:56 oleonard What a cop-out.
13:56 oleonard Marshall responds on Twitter, "It does seem ironic that the scores for the open source question are low, but open source replacements are frequently given."
13:50 kf confusing bug numbers?
13:42 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1293 normal, P2, ---, chris, RESOLVED MOVED, Database installation problem
13:42 * oleonard wonders why someone just added themselves to the CC list on Bug 1293
13:37 kf I don't see how he comes to this conclusion from the numbers
13:36 kf oleonard: yes, it's not right
13:29 oleonard And yet, "low levels of interest in migrating to an open source ILS" ?!
13:28 oleonard "Summaries of replacement candidates for libraries indicating they are considering migrating to a new ILS: Innovative Interfaces Sierra 88, Evergreen 87, Koha 74"
13:21 marcelr very strange..
13:21 jcamins_away Yeah, I'm not sure which could have an impact, though.
13:20 marcelr thinking about preferences or other things that may affect this..
13:19 marcelr saw it; looks ;like what i did with another result??
13:19 kf jcamins++ for helping me translate manuscript english
13:19 jcamins_away marcelr: I posted a screen capture on the bug.
13:17 jcamins_away cul_away: you ran it as root the first time.
13:17 jcamins_away marcelr: yeah, I may have gone a bit overboard.
13:17 cul_away jcamins: so running as root resets all permissions?
13:17 marcelr jcamins: you tested a lot os
13:17 wahanui bonjour, marcelr
13:17 marcelr hi
13:17 jcamins_away marcelr: good morning.
13:16 jcamins_away cul_away: it's because you ran it as root once.
13:16 Culiforge jcamins: right. but i'm just wondering why all those files are set to root. I'll fiddle with it at work today.. gotta get ready. Good morning #koha and goodbye for now.
13:15 marcelr ?
13:15 marcelr hi jcamins
13:15 kf jcamins++
13:14 jcamins_away Good morning.
13:13 jcamins_away *using
13:13 jcamins_away Culiforge: you need to change the permissions to whichever user you're uins.g
13:13 Culiforge jcamins: I tried -ugary and -ukoha.. no permissions
13:12 kf good morning jcamins_away :)
13:12 jcamins_away -ukoha or -ugary depending on which user you're running Koha under.
13:12 Culiforge kf: that's what I was thinking..
13:12 jcamins_away Culiforge: don't use -uroot
13:12 kf and starting zebrasrv should work without sudo
13:11 kf all zebra files should be owned by your koha user
13:11 kf that does not seem right to me
13:11 kf hm
13:10 Culiforge aha! kf: you are correct... permissions. but why are all my permissions locked to root user? Because I had to run this to get zebra running: sudo -uroot zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/sites/library/koha-conf.xml
12:35 kohaLIB kf: thanks for your guidance
12:30 kohaLIB kf: no any other change require??
12:30 kohaLIB kf: thanks buddy... it's work
12:27 Culiforge kf: np, i'll keep poking around
12:27 kf sorry out of ideas
12:26 Culiforge kf: ran as sudo and as root, same result
12:26 kf perhaps permissions?
12:25 kf hm
12:25 Culiforge Restarting Zebra server for library / Invalid option: __user (only works for root) / usage: daemon [options] [cmd arg...] / options:
12:24 kf and restarting apache
12:24 kf yes
12:24 kohaLIB kf: u mean add "Listen 8090" "Listen 8091" in ports.conf
12:24 kf Culiforge: sorry, I am not a package expert - perhaps someone else will know a bit later
12:23 kf but does not tell you whats wrong?
12:23 kf kohaLIB: ports.conf ?
12:23 Culiforge just the syntax list for daemon commands.. same as if I had typed -h
12:22 kf Culiforge: not sure then, what does the help say?
12:22 Culiforge koha-restart-zebra library is actual
12:22 Culiforge I simply put that as a placeholder for my instance
12:22 kf kohaLIB: you will also need to change in your apache configuration I think
12:21 kf Culiforge: perhaps without the '' ?
12:20 AmitG what error?
12:20 kohaLIB AmitG: i hv altered in koha-httpd.conf but getting error "page not found"
12:18 AmitG heya wahanui
12:17 wahanui AmitG: that doesn't look right
12:17 AmitG change in your koha-httpd.conf file
12:13 kohaLIB need to change Listen port 8000 & 8001 with 8090 & 8091.... please guide the right procedure?
12:12 Culiforge koha-restart-zebra 'instance' only gives me help file what am I not doing right?
12:07 Culiforge hello all
12:05 AmitG heya kohaLIB
12:02 kohaLIB hello, kf:
12:01 kohaLIB I have installed Koha on port Interanet 8000 & OPAC 8001...... now need to change this with 8090 & 8091 please guide me in which files i want to update
12:00 kf hi kohaLIB
11:58 kohaLIB Hi all...
11:57 cul_away didn't get a chance to resolve this yesterday... unable to search in staff or opac. zebra appears to be running: 19694 0.0 0.1 3376 804 pts/0 S+ 06:53 0:00 grep --color=auto zebra. Also seems that zebra is not auto starting.
11:45 druthb Awr.
11:45 druthb Two Amits! :) Handy.
11:42 druthb hi, AmitG. :)
11:42 AmitG heya druthb
11:17 magnuse \o
11:16 druthb o/
10:57 kf lunch time :)
10:57 kf heh
10:47 magnuse hey, it worked!
10:34 * kf hands out the duct tape
09:44 marcelr bug does depend on not receiving empty params which makes the function stumble over unexpected order
09:43 marcelr rangi: thanks for testing, have to see which browsers (under which version..) do have this problem
09:31 asaurat seems tricky to correct
09:30 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7455 normal, P4, ---, adrien.saurat, ASSIGNED , Authority subfields are cloned in the wrong field
09:30 asaurat bug 7455 has to do with this kind of function too
09:30 rangi hmm nope still seems to work fine
09:28 * rangi tries making 2 4 subfields
09:27 rangi and the rest of the 700 stayed there
09:27 rangi hmm i cant recreate either i removed the 4
09:24 * rangi tries
09:23 rangi even after comment 10
09:23 rangi hmm but jared couldnt reproduce
09:21 marcelr well, thinking further it could be related to browser (order of params and handling empty params)
09:20 marcelr has to do with function in C4 module
09:20 marcelr does not depend on firefox
09:20 marcelr you could check it there too?
09:19 rangi marcelr: if no one has by tomorrow ill check on my computer at work, dont have firefox on this one, just chromium
08:53 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3264 critical, P1 - high, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , UnCloneField() / minus button in MARC editor can clear all subfields (authorities AND biblio)
08:53 marcelr could anyone of you reproduce the problem of bug 3264 (comment 10) ? takes a minute or two ..
08:43 marcelr hi sophie_m and francharb
08:37 sophie_m Guten Tag kf
08:36 kf bonjour sophie_m :)
08:36 francharb hi kf rangi
08:36 sophie_m hi rangi
08:36 rangi hiy francharb and sophie_m
08:35 sophie_m hello #koha
08:34 kf hi francharb :)
08:34 wahanui bonjour, francharb
08:34 francharb hi
08:28 marcelr ;)
08:28 kf and s/no/now/
08:28 kf was testing a new irc client on phone earlier
08:28 marcelr real?
08:28 magnuse woohoo! ;-)
08:27 kf no back for real
08:27 rangi hi kf
08:27 magnuse hi kf
08:23 marcelr hi cait
08:23 magnuse hi cait_
08:21 cait_ hi all
08:12 marcelr np
08:12 rangi marcelr++ # thanks for the quick qa
08:11 marcelr hi gaetan_B
08:09 gaetan_B hello #koha :)
08:07 hdl hi rangi
08:07 marcelr hi asaurat
08:07 marcelr rangi: yes
08:07 rangi hi asaurat hdl and gaetan_B
08:06 asaurat hello
08:06 rangi but thats totally separate to the new problem of the Makefile.PL ignoring hte Koha dir
08:05 magnuse wb cait
08:05 rangi its always been like that for a standard install
08:05 rangi yep
08:05 rangi KOHA_DEST_INTRANET_CGI_DIR = $(DESTDIR)/usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin
08:04 marcelr but you cant change it
08:04 rangi so yeah, /etc/koha is where it will go
08:04 marcelr yes?
08:04 rangi and DESTDIR =
08:03 rangi OHA_DEST_KOHA_CONF_DIR = $(DESTDIR)/etc/koha
08:03 rangi goes to
08:03 magnuse wow, those are seriously long item types... http://library.engr.tu.ac.th/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=3
08:02 rangi $(KOHA_INST_KOHA_CONF_DIR) $(KOHA_DEST_KOHA_CONF_DIR)
08:01 julian_m hi marcelr, hi rangi
08:01 marcelr hi julian_m
08:00 rangi yep, hitting enter
08:00 julian_m hello
08:00 marcelr ok
08:00 rangi (ive done 2 today but very rarely do them now im not RM, since i use the packages, i used to do them as part of the release tho)
07:59 * rangi does another one
07:59 rangi well thats if you just hit return at the defaults
07:58 marcelr did not do that long time
07:58 rangi thast where it puts the koha-conf.xml
07:58 rangi yes
07:58 rangi standard one?
07:58 magnuse cool: http://library.engr.tu.ac.th/
07:58 marcelr about etc; should it install there?
07:57 rangi yup
07:57 wahanui I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS!
07:57 marcelr rangi?
07:56 marcelr hi magnuse
07:56 magnuse hiya marcelr
07:55 marcelr hi koha
07:54 rangi cool
07:54 magnuse i sent it to my kindle, will peruse it later
07:54 magnuse heh, that's a shame
07:54 rangi but then again .. they never do
07:53 wahanui interesting is good
07:53 magnuse interesting...
07:53 rangi but somehow the conclusions marshall draws dont reflect the numbers
07:53 magnuse ah, yes i saw you and cait chatting about that earlier
07:53 rangi not great at all for liblime
07:53 rangi the numbers look great for koha
07:53 rangi marshalls perceptions report is out
07:53 magnuse wassup?
07:52 rangi heh
07:52 magnuse hiya cait-not-here-anymore and rangi
07:49 cait morning magnuse
07:48 rangi hi magnuse
07:48 magnuse kia ora #koha!
07:47 paul_p hello #koha
07:47 cait hi paul_p
07:45 rangi hi paul_p
07:41 rangi hi alex_a
07:41 cait hi laurence and alex_a
07:38 wahanui hi, alex_a
07:38 alex_a bonjour
07:37 laurence hi #koha
07:37 laurence hi rangi
07:36 rangi hi laurence
07:36 reiveune hi rangi , cait , everybody :)
07:36 rangi hi reiveune
07:36 cait hi reiveune
07:34 wahanui que tal, reiveune
07:34 reiveune hello
06:49 cait :)
06:47 rangi pleased to see the 2 catalyst ones who choose to respond said we do good, so im happy with that
06:46 rangi not too many at all
06:46 rangi no
06:45 cait not a lot of comments this year
06:45 cait agreed
06:42 rangi even if marshall seems to interpret that as not well, meh
06:42 rangi good to see actual koha score really well
06:27 rangi http://www.librarytechnology.org/perceptions2011.pl
06:27 rangi but ouch .. liblime .. bottom or 2nd to bottom on everything
06:25 rangi and hsis conclusions are always biased against open source
06:25 rangi thats why i never tell anyone to fill in his survey its statistically unsound
06:24 rangi the old low levels of interest
06:24 rangi lol
06:22 rangi oh is the survey results out?
05:30 AmitG hey aBob
05:01 cait yep
05:01 rangi still worth pushing
05:01 cait not bad at all then
05:01 cait cool
05:01 rangi yep, copy the file
05:00 cait and easy to workaround I guess?
05:00 rangi it only affects the templates that use that plugin
05:00 cait right
05:00 rangi for 929
05:00 rangi yes
04:59 cait ah, so 7359 only affects the new feature?
04:59 rangi not Koha not working, 2 new features are broken, the rest work fine
04:59 rangi its only 2 pages
04:31 * rangi downgrades the severity of 7359
03:34 * chris_n wonders briefly if there is any association between his being disconnected and the last line in the irc buffer including the words "core dumped" :)
03:22 AmitG heya bag
01:43 jcamins Better to have people wondering why there are no packages than wondering why Koha won't work.
01:42 jcamins Yes, please do.
01:40 eythian ah. I might hold off on making the packages for a little while then.
01:40 jcamins The fact that every single "regular" 3.6.3 and 3.4.8 install will be broken.
01:39 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7359 blocker, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , Begin migration to a new "Koha" namespace from the old "C4" namespace
01:39 jcamins eythian: bug 7359.
01:33 eythian "this" is not defined: core dumped
01:28 jcamins *important issue
01:26 jcamins So... does that comment make clear that I think this is an issue?
01:23 jcamins I guess the world won't have the benefit of rangi's moderating influence on my tetchy comment.
01:22 jcamins Hm.
01:22 eythian well, he's not here anyway
01:22 eythian he ain't
01:22 jcamins rangi: around?
00:59 kathryn true!
00:58 jcamins That's our preferred method. ;)
00:58 jcamins You can hassle rangi on #koha!
00:57 kathryn why thank you! maybe I should ask more questions here then I don't have to hassle rangi so much : )
00:53 jcamins And we're very glad to have you. :)
00:53 kathryn : ) I'm a little quiet but I'm here!
00:51 jcamins Hi kathryn. :)
00:50 kathryn hi jcamins I'll take that as a hi to me too! (I work with chrisdothall and rangi)
00:47 chrisdothall jcamins_away: hello from nz :)
00:46 jcamins_away (and everyone else)
00:45 jcamins_away Hello, New Zealand!