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| 00:26 |
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jcamins |
rangi: how do I remove amend the previous commit to not touch a certain file? |
| 00:27 |
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jcamins |
s/remove// |
| 00:29 |
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jcamins |
Oh, figured it out. |
| 00:38 |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6800] Koha authentication should handle proxies better <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6800> |
| 00:59 |
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| 01:15 |
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jcamins |
:q |
| 01:16 |
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jcamins |
Whoops. Wrong window. |
| 01:33 |
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| 01:33 |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7345] Should be possible to export MARC records without private fields <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7345> |
| 02:02 |
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| 05:13 |
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bag |
evening |
| 05:56 |
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| 05:56 |
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druthb |
o/ |
| 06:18 |
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bag |
heya druthb |
| 06:19 |
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druthb |
hi, bag! |
| 06:19 |
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druthb |
gotta hit the hay...brain is fried, fried. |
| 06:19 |
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bag |
me too |
| 06:19 |
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bag |
:) |
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| 08:46 |
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magnus_afk |
o/ |
| 08:47 |
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mbalmer |
the north wakes up ;) |
| 08:48 |
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magnus_afk |
slightly... |
| 08:48 |
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* mbalmer |
had no coffee yet, either |
| 08:48 |
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rangi |
hi magnus_afk mbalmer and cait |
| 08:49 |
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cait |
morning magnus_afk and mbalmer |
| 08:49 |
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mbalmer |
I think I got my system finally up and running, trying to localize it now. |
| 08:49 |
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mbalmer |
and, morning all, btw ;) |
| 08:53 |
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| 08:53 |
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ihussien |
hello |
| 08:54 |
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ihussien |
i'm ihab from jordan |
| 08:54 |
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ihussien |
i want to ask some questions |
| 08:54 |
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ihussien |
Dose Koha support Arabic title |
| 08:57 |
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mbalmer |
The german translation is funny: "Hier klicken if you're not Marc Balmer" ;) |
| 08:57 |
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cait |
mbalmer: I am open for better translations ;) |
| 08:58 |
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cait |
it's like amazon, Klicken Sie hier, wenn Sie nicht ... sind |
| 08:58 |
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mbalmer |
yeah. but it's a mix of english and german, that is what I meant. |
| 08:58 |
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mbalmer |
and I am not yet familiar enoigh with the system to offer you a patch, sorry. |
| 08:58 |
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cait |
ah |
| 08:59 |
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cait |
you don't need a patch |
| 08:59 |
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cait |
really |
| 08:59 |
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cait |
translations are handled with po files |
| 08:59 |
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cait |
what version have you installed? |
| 09:00 |
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| 09:00 |
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mbalmer |
from the debian package koha-common, let me try to find the exact version... |
| 09:00 |
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* mbalmer |
is not so familar with Linux... |
| 09:00 |
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rangi |
the about page will tell you |
| 09:00 |
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rangi |
in koha |
| 09:01 |
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mbalmer |
uhhh, that looks old: 3.06.00.002 |
| 09:02 |
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cait |
no, not really old :) |
| 09:02 |
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cait |
why do you think it's old? |
| 09:02 |
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rangi |
a month and a half |
| 09:02 |
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cait |
yep |
| 09:02 |
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mbalmer |
the zero confused me, sorry. |
| 09:02 |
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mbalmer |
3.0 was what I thought. |
| 09:03 |
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mbalmer |
(still to early in the morning and still no coffee) |
| 09:03 |
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mbalmer |
how can one remove translations? |
| 09:04 |
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cait |
remove? |
| 09:04 |
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cait |
I am not sure how installing translations with the packages work |
| 09:05 |
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mbalmer |
if you do 'perl translate install de-XY', the translate script will fail (de-XY does not exist), but the admin interface will show you 'de-XY' as a language choice under I18N/L10N |
| 09:05 |
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mbalmer |
so it creates bogus entries |
| 09:07 |
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mbalmer |
ah, rm -r /usr/share/koha/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/prog/de-XY helps |
| 09:08 |
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mbalmer |
same for opac |
| 09:21 |
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magnus_afk |
mbalmer: there is some work under way to create proper packages for the translations too, but it's not finished yet |
| 09:22 |
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mbalmer |
for the time being I will add a note to the wiki and file a bug report |
| 09:54 |
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| 10:55 |
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mbalmer |
maybe a stupid question, but: how can I import media information into Koha? I have the ISBN numbers, can I somehow get the "official" data of a book? (I am not a librarian, but a software developer…. ;) |
| 11:04 |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7346] 'perl translate install' creates template directories for invalid languages <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7346> |
| 11:09 |
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mbalmer |
huginn, I tested your diff, it works. |
| 11:11 |
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magnus_afk |
mbalmer: huginn is a bot, trying to be helpful ;-) |
| 11:11 |
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mbalmer |
I see, LOL ;) |
| 11:11 |
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magnus_afk |
if you test patches you might want to sign off on them: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]gn_off_on_patches |
| 11:13 |
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magnus_afk |
to get media info into koha you might want to have a look at http://manual.koha-community.o[…]ng.html#addbibrec |
| 11:13 |
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mbalmer |
gosh, that git signoff procedure is complicated ;) |
| 11:14 |
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magnus_afk |
nah, you'd get the hang of it pretty soon i'd think |
| 11:14 |
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mbalmer |
I use git in other projects, too. |
| 11:14 |
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magnus_afk |
that's an advantage! |
| 11:14 |
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mbalmer |
problem could be: I tested the diff on a release, but need to sign off in -current |
| 11:15 |
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magnus_afk |
yeah, current master is best for doing proper signoffs, i guess |
| 11:16 |
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magnus_afk |
but just adding a comment saying "this worked on 3.6.1" or similar would be a good thing too |
| 11:20 |
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mbalmer |
bah, I think I accidentally created a branch. |
| 11:21 |
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mbalmer |
what is the name of the "master" branch? |
| 11:23 |
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magnus_afk |
um, just "master" |
| 11:23 |
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magnus_afk |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…]refs/heads/master |
| 11:24 |
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mbalmer |
<- lost in git |
| 11:26 |
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magnus_afk |
you lost master? |
| 11:26 |
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mbalmer |
I lost my mind, I think ;) |
| 11:26 |
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magnus_afk |
hehe |
| 11:26 |
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mbalmer |
how do I delete a branch? |
| 11:27 |
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magnus_afk |
git branch -d branchname *i think* |
| 11:28 |
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magnus_afk |
yeah, looks like it |
| 11:28 |
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magnus_afk |
it might tell you yo have to use -D |
| 11:28 |
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mbalmer |
yes that works. but I created accidentally the branch 'translate', and apparently I am currently in that one. how do I change back to the master branch? |
| 11:28 |
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magnus_afk |
git checkout master |
| 11:30 |
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mbalmer |
yep, that worked. thanks |
| 11:30 |
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magnus_afk |
no problem! |
| 11:36 |
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mbalmer |
woah, I have no idea how do this git thing... |
| 11:36 |
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mbalmer |
maybe someone smarter should do it ;) |
| 11:37 |
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mbalmer |
locally committed the diff, but how can I get the patch against the master branch? |
| 11:38 |
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magnus_afk |
hm, what are you trying to do? |
| 11:39 |
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mbalmer |
sign off a diff. |
| 11:39 |
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magnus_afk |
oops, time for me to wander off again - see ya later! |
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jcamins_away |
Anyone who uses UNIMARC around? |
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| 13:08 |
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jcamins |
I don't suppose anyone is around who can help me troubleshoot the sudden appearance of multiple content-type lines in my git patches? |
| 13:14 |
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jcamins |
Never mind. |
| 13:14 |
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jcamins |
Figured it out. |
| 13:17 |
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mbalmer |
I now go read the Git book, seems about time I understand it a bit better |
| 13:18 |
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jcamins |
mbalmer: which git book? |
| 13:19 |
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mbalmer |
Version Control with Git |
| 13:19 |
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jcamins |
mbalmer: ah, that's a good one. :) |
| 13:20 |
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mbalmer |
I read it once, but the mayhem I caused to my repo this morning clearly showed I did not fully understand it ;) |
| 13:20 |
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mbalmer |
and since I want to fix a few things, I need it. |
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| 14:55 |
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mbalmer |
my git repo is now ahead of the master branch by 2 commits (but no changes), can I somehow reset that? |
| 14:57 |
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jcamins |
mbalmer: if you didn't mean to make any changes, I'd just create a new branch: |
| 14:57 |
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jcamins |
git checkout origin/master |
| 14:57 |
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jcamins |
git branch -D master (assuming that's what the branch you inadvertantly committed to was called) |
| 14:57 |
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jcamins |
git checkout -b master origin/master |
| 14:58 |
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* jcamins |
is in a getting rid of stuff kind of mood, though, so you might not actually want to delete the branch. |
| 14:58 |
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jcamins |
;) |
| 14:59 |
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mbalmer |
jcamins, that worked, thanks! |
| 14:59 |
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mbalmer |
<- will never commit to master again |
| 15:02 |
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jcamins |
Wise. :) |
| 15:03 |
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mbalmer |
well, I should have know better, using git on freedesktop.org as well, plus on another project ;( |
| 15:27 |
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mbalmer |
who are the good folks working on PostgreSQL support for Koha? |
| 15:28 |
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jcamins |
mbalmer: I think that was you volunteering. |
| 15:28 |
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jcamins |
mbalmer++ # for taking up a neglected task |
| 15:28 |
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mbalmer |
it has always been the database of my choice, since 1995... |
| 15:29 |
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jcamins |
Database independence would be awesome! |
| 15:29 |
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mbalmer |
And I am very close to the dev team, see my many talks on it ;) |
| 15:29 |
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mbalmer |
the biggest handicap right now is that I don't know perl, and really don't feel to much like learning it. |
| 15:30 |
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mbalmer |
to me it's a write only language, no one can read that code…. |
| 15:30 |
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mbalmer |
ok, ymmv ;) |
| 15:30 |
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jcamins |
mbalmer: we prefer to call it WORN. ;) |
| 15:30 |
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mbalmer |
hehe ;) |
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cait |
hi #koha |
| 17:05 |
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mbalmer |
hi cait |
| 17:05 |
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cait |
hi mbalmer |
| 17:06 |
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jcamins |
Hi cait. |
| 17:06 |
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wahanui |
Hi cait. are you looking at the rwc final? |
| 17:06 |
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cait |
forget hi cait. |
| 17:06 |
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cait |
and hi jcamins :) |
| 17:10 |
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* jcamins |
just disbound two massive course packets and is currently scanning them in so that he can throw out the physical volumes. |
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| 17:11 |
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mbalmer |
is there a mailing list that mails out git commits? |
| 17:11 |
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jcamins |
mbalmer: yes. |
| 17:11 |
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trea |
mailing list? |
| 17:11 |
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wahanui |
mailing list is at http://koha-community.org/supp[…]ha-mailing-lists/ |
| 17:12 |
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cait |
we have a list for almost everything :) |
| 17:12 |
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jcamins |
That one is koha-commits. |
| 17:12 |
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jcamins |
There's also koha-patches if you want to see proposed patches. |
| 17:12 |
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cait |
bugs is also interesting |
| 17:12 |
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mbalmer |
cait, like NetBSD, then |
| 17:12 |
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jcamins |
And koha-bugs for following the bugzilla. |
| 17:13 |
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cait |
there is a german list too |
| 17:13 |
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jcamins |
And koha-devel is a must if you're doing any development. |
| 17:13 |
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cait |
but there the traffic is very very low |
| 17:13 |
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jcamins |
Also a French list. :) |
| 17:13 |
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jcamins |
And maybe a Spanish list? |
| 17:13 |
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cait |
I still encourage you to subscribe, in hope it will get better |
| 17:14 |
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mbalmer |
I need koha-pgsql :> |
| 17:14 |
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jcamins |
mbalmer: you'll have to get Koha using a database abstraction layer for that, first. |
| 17:14 |
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jcamins |
Discussions about implementing that would go on koha-devel. |
| 17:15 |
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mbalmer |
abstraction layer _OR_ two interfaces to choose from |
| 17:15 |
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cait |
mbalmer: thx for the bug report :) |
| 17:15 |
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jcamins |
mbalmer: abstraction layer is better. |
| 17:15 |
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mbalmer |
jcamins I beg to differ |
| 17:15 |
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jcamins |
mbalmer: take a look at the code, then repeat that statement. |
| 17:15 |
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cait |
mbalmer: I think there was an attempt to do that |
| 17:15 |
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cait |
but the problem is we might have some mysqlisms in the code right now |
| 17:16 |
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mbalmer |
pgsql support would be a longer term project anyways. |
| 17:16 |
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cait |
installer/data/Pg is outdated |
| 17:16 |
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jcamins |
mbalmer: two interfaces would only work if there were some sot ofrtf of centralized database access. |
| 17:16 |
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mbalmer |
but if we want to jump on the wagon, it is a must for us. |
| 17:16 |
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cait |
jcamins: ?? |
| 17:17 |
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cait |
what's between of and rtf? |
| 17:17 |
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mbalmer |
jcamins, way to early to dicuss this, keep in mind that I have no understanding of the koha codebase yet. |
| 17:17 |
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cait |
mbalmer: there are some bigger projects going on for code cleanup and performance at the moment |
| 17:17 |
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cait |
i think noone has started on the abstraction layer yet |
| 17:18 |
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cait |
mbalmer: I am looking at 7346 :) |
| 17:18 |
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rangi |
actually the mysqlisms are pretty much confined to the. sql files now |
| 17:19 |
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jcamins |
Yikes. |
| 17:19 |
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cait |
it's good if you obsolete the original patch after attaching the signed off patch |
| 17:19 |
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jcamins |
Wireless is very screwed up. |
| 17:19 |
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jcamins |
That was supposed to be "some sort of centralized database access." |
| 17:19 |
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jcamins |
bug 7346 |
| 17:19 |
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cait |
and thx for signing off :) |
| 17:19 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7346 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW , 'perl translate install' creates template directories for invalid languages |
| 17:19 |
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cait |
mbalmer++ |
| 17:19 |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
| 17:19 |
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jcamins |
rangi: "mostly." |
| 17:19 |
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rangi |
yep, very few left over and easy to kill |
| 17:20 |
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cait |
heh |
| 17:20 |
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cait |
and good morning rangi :) |
| 17:20 |
|
* jcamins |
imagines Black Knight-like MySQLisms. |
| 17:20 |
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rangi |
naw they aren't hard to kill |
| 17:20 |
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jcamins |
"It's just a flesh wound." |
| 17:20 |
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rangi |
or even needed |
| 17:20 |
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jcamins |
"No it's not, you're arm's off." |
| 17:20 |
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jcamins |
"Chicken! Chiiiccckkkeeennn! Bawk bawk!" |
| 17:21 |
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jcamins |
"Tell you what, we'll call it a draw." |
| 17:21 |
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rangi |
and DBI is the abstraction, what is needed is a better schema |
| 17:21 |
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mbalmer |
I am almost sure I would also introduce some PostgreSQL-isms. If you want to take advantage of DB, you almost have to. |
| 17:21 |
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mbalmer |
else you can only use the lowest common denominator of all supported databases. |
| 17:22 |
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jcamins |
rangi: I didn't realize that C4::Context wasn't using the MySQL interface directly. |
| 17:22 |
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rangi |
and thats why abstraction layers suck |
| 17:22 |
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cait |
jcamins: monty python? |
| 17:22 |
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jcamins |
The commands are pretty much identical to the C MySQL interface. |
| 17:22 |
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jcamins |
cait: yep. |
| 17:22 |
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cait |
yay :) |
| 17:22 |
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cait |
I got it |
| 17:23 |
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rangi |
its using dbi and dbd::mysql |
| 17:23 |
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rangi |
could be dbd::pg too |
| 17:23 |
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jcamins |
rangi: so in other words, that's not a direct MySQL interface. Cool. |
| 17:25 |
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mbalmer |
imo, a good implemetation offers interfaces to databases and takes advantage of the respective database. although I see not a single positive aspect for the use of MySQL ;P |
| 17:25 |
|
* mbalmer |
is a PostgreSQL guy |
| 17:25 |
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rangi |
mbalmer: koha used psql first |
| 17:25 |
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rangi |
but mysql far outperformed it |
| 17:25 |
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rangi |
that was in 99 tho |
| 17:26 |
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rangi |
postgres has got a lot faster |
| 17:26 |
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mbalmer |
oh yes |
| 17:26 |
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mbalmer |
and not only that |
| 17:26 |
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jcamins |
Only 23 articles left to scan. |
| 17:26 |
|
* rangi |
works with a postgres developer |
| 17:26 |
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mbalmer |
with whom? |
| 17:30 |
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rangi |
mark Kirkwood |
| 17:31 |
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rangi |
we use postgres for most things |
| 17:35 |
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mbalmer |
I see. Yes, we use it heavily for mission critical stuff (point of sale) |
| 17:35 |
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mbalmer |
so data integrity and safety is paramount, sth that is not given with mysql |
| 17:36 |
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rangi |
yep |
| 17:37 |
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rangi |
we use it for electoral roles and the like |
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cait |
mbalmer: i got your mail? |
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mbalmer |
cait, it's a simple diff. |
| 19:08 |
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cait |
I see that :) |
| 19:08 |
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mbalmer |
did I miss the attachment? |
| 19:08 |
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cait |
only wondered why you sent it to me :) |
| 19:09 |
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mbalmer |
I had no better address to send it to. and I saw that you have commit acces, that's why ;) |
| 19:09 |
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mbalmer |
opening a PR for an 'n' seemed like overkill, tbh... |
| 19:10 |
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cait |
ah |
| 19:10 |
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cait |
nobody has commit access :) |
| 19:10 |
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cait |
or only the rm has |
| 19:10 |
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cait |
to be more precise |
| 19:10 |
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cait |
PR? |
| 19:11 |
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mbalmer |
problem report, aka bug. (term we use in NetBSD, sry) |
| 19:11 |
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cait |
np |
| 19:11 |
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cait |
I am not very familiar with other open source projects |
| 19:12 |
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mbalmer |
I am living in this cabal forever ;) |
| 19:12 |
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cait |
the normal procedure is that we open a bug, put the number in the patch and send it to koha-patches |
| 19:12 |
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mbalmer |
ok, I try to follow that |
| 19:12 |
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cait |
it's easier to track things this way, but you are right that it seems a bit silly for small things sometimes :) |
| 19:13 |
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cait |
but still it's helpful |
| 19:13 |
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mbalmer |
sounds a bit overengineered for little typos, though |
| 19:13 |
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cait |
what you can do |
| 19:13 |
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cait |
is open a bug |
| 19:13 |
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cait |
for "typos in documentation" |
| 19:13 |
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mbalmer |
but then, I might create a typo branch and do a collective patch once a year ;) |
| 19:13 |
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cait |
so next time... there will already be a bug number you can use |
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cait |
and for working with bugzilla git bz is a nice addition to make your life easier |
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cait |
git bz? |
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wahanui |
well, git bz is so much fun :) |
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cait |
hm wahanui, that's not so helpful |
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cait |
wahanui: git bz is also http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_bz_configuration |
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wahanui |
okay, cait. |
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cait |
wahanui botsnack cookie |
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wahanui |
thanks cait :) |
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can Deutsche Nationalbibliothek be queried from Koha using z39.50? |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
I am not sure |
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if they have an open z39.50 server for marc21 |
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afaik, the only have sutrs |
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dani |
Hello |
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eythian |
http://awfullibrarybooks.net/?p=15083 |
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eythian |
@later tell jcamins_away do you know if Koha can do "see also" sort of authority stuff? So you can put abbrevs in and it'll search for the full expansion and know about it due to the auth records. |
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huginn` |
eythian: The operation succeeded. |
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eythian |
I wonder if that made any sense in English. |
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jcamins_away |
eythian: I do know, and the answer is "no." |
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eythian |
OK, ta |
