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rangi |
nz gets its first deaf member of parliament |
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bag |
wow |
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bag |
hey there rangi |
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rangi |
heya |
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rangi |
mojo mathers .. great name too |
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rangi |
14 green mps, shes the 14th |
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bag |
yup that's a great name |
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bag |
alright - I'm going to bed |
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bag |
night dood |
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rangi |
sleep well |
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bag |
you too man |
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* bag |
is going to dream :D |
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mbalmer |
good day everyone! |
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* mbalmer |
is new to koha and this channel. |
| 10:37 |
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rangi |
you wont find many people about on the weekend |
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rangi |
most are sleeping at the moment |
| 10:43 |
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mbalmer |
from which continents are most people? (I am from Switzerland) |
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rangi |
all over the world |
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* magnus_afk |
is in norway |
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magnus_afk |
...and good morning #koha |
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rangi |
im in nz, and about to go to sleep |
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* magnus_afk |
wishes rangi a good night |
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rangi |
magnus_afk: before i go did you see this http://openbiblio.net/2011/12/[…]rds-as-open-data/ |
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magnus_afk |
nope, but yay! |
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* rangi |
wanders off |
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magnus_afk |
see ya! |
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* magnus_afk |
wanders off too |
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BobB |
hi mbalmer - welcome to #koha |
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mbalmer |
hey BobB! |
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BobB |
You'll find more people here during the week. The channel is very active. |
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BobB |
I am in Australia. And I am also heading off to bed soon. |
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BobB |
rangi keeps later hours than I do. :) |
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mbalmer |
well, I don't have any pressing questions or problems (yet) ;) |
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BobB |
When you do, this is a good place to get help. The mailing list is also very active. |
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mbalmer |
it will eventually happen... |
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BobB |
heh, hopefully not too soon. :) |
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BobB |
Well, I hope Koha meets your needs. Enjoy your experience of it! |
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BobB |
Good night now. |
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mbalmer |
cu! |
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drojf |
good day #koha |
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drojf |
i have a (probably stupid) git question. i used the wiki pages to install debian packages, have a local git repository now and pointed koha towards that. but i was wondering when i will work with different branches to work on different features… how can i test different branches in koha? how do i activate a certain branch to test it? is that just done by changing the branch in git? |
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jcamins |
drojf: if you have a git install, all you have to do to chane branches is `git checkout different_branch` |
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drojf |
magic :) thanks! |
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jcamins |
I don't suppose you happen to know how to do a checkbox in HTML? |
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jcamins |
<input type='checkbox' />. Never mind. |
| 13:17 |
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mbalmer |
my first koha install is a fail, staff interface works, opacs doesn't (although I assigned different IP adresses to them) |
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jcamins |
mbalmer: what doesn't work about it? |
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jcamins |
mbalmer: drojf: also, I should point out that there are a lot more people around to offer help during the week. :) |
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drojf |
jcamins: but i am ill and bored now! ;) |
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jcamins |
drojf: fair enough. |
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drojf |
but you are right. i have not been here often, but i have never seen it this quiet. |
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jcamins |
It tends to just be me on the weekends. |
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mbalmer |
jcamins, I installed 3.4 as per the docs on the wiki, ona dedicated machine, and more or less followed the instructions. biblio-intra.vnode.ch nicely presente the staff loging, but biblio.vnode.ch does not display the opac, but only an "It worked" page from apache. |
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jcamins |
mbalmer: using the packages? |
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wahanui |
i think using the packages is better anyway |
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mbalmer |
must be a pretty obvious mistake I made somewhere, but did not yet find by looking at the apache config files. |
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drojf |
mbalmer: have you disabled the 000-default site in apache? |
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mbalmer |
yes, I was using a koha-common packages and used koha-create. No I did not disable 000-.... |
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jcamins |
^^ what drojf said. |
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drojf |
sudo a2dissite 000-default |
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jcamins |
mbalmer: sudo a2dissite 000-default |
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drojf |
should help |
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drojf |
faster ;) |
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mbalmer |
I just removed it ;) |
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mbalmer |
oh and yes, I owe you beer now ;) |
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drojf |
yeah, beer :) |
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mbalmer |
now I can play.. nice. |
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jcamins |
@later tell gmcharlt Is there any reason not to move C4::UploadedFile to Koha::UploadedFile? It has no dependencies. |
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huginn` |
jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
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* jcamins |
waves to trea. |
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trea |
o/ |
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jcamins |
chris_n: for the record, there is such a thing as too much error handling. :P |
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magnus_afk |
\o |
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jcamins |
o/ |
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jcamins |
gmcharlt++ # UploadedFile is nifty! |
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* magnus_afk |
wanders off again to prepare some arctic char for dinner |
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jcamins |
The rarest fish species in Britain! |
| 16:42 |
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* jcamins |
curses the handle_dir code again. |
| 17:15 |
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jcamins |
Does anyone know how to run perlcritic? |
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magnus_afk |
http://search.cpan.org/dist/Pe[…]ic/bin/perlcritic ? |
| 17:35 |
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magnus_afk |
--brutal | --cruel | --harsh | --stern | --gentle |
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magnus_afk |
tee hee ;-) |
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jcamins |
magnus_afk: right. It doesn't seem to exist, though. |
| 17:36 |
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magnus_afk |
oops? |
| 17:36 |
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jcamins |
And the instructions assume that it does. |
| 17:37 |
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magnus_afk |
when i try to run perlcritic on ubuntu i'm told to install libperl-critic-perl |
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jcamins |
Thanks. |
| 17:37 |
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jcamins |
I'll try that. |
| 17:37 |
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jcamins |
When I tried to run it, I just got an error. |
| 17:37 |
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jcamins |
(that there was no such program) |
| 17:37 |
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magnus_afk |
ah |
| 17:37 |
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magnus_afk |
i think it comes with Perl::Critic |
| 17:38 |
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jcamins |
magnuse++ |
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magnus_afk |
yay ;-) |
| 17:39 |
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magnus_afk |
"my work here is done" he said, and wandered off again |
| 17:40 |
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jcamins |
:) |
| 17:40 |
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jcamins |
Mine is nearly done... now I just have to add local cover images to the intranet. |
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jcamins |
Jeez. This patch is 60K, and as it turns out, I rewrote almost every single line. |
| 17:57 |
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* jcamins |
considers putting the images in a tab in the staff client rather than just sort of hanging out in the middle of the page the way the Amazon covers do. |
| 17:59 |
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* jcamins |
wishes someone were around to give him feedback on whether that was a good idea or not. |
| 17:59 |
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* jcamins |
decides the lack of feedback means that everyone thinks his ideas are so awesome, they are shocked into silence by their brilliance. |
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* drojf1 |
likes tabs |
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jcamins |
drojf1++ # for providing feedback |
| 18:00 |
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jcamins |
:) |
| 18:00 |
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drojf1 |
:) |
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jcamins |
Here's what I don't like: http://screencast.com/t/9wfonerld7UW |
| 18:01 |
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jcamins |
I want to add another tab next to "Descriptions" that includes that. |
| 18:03 |
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drojf1 |
yes, please. it looks quite ugly like in the screenshot |
| 18:03 |
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* drojf1 |
never turned on covers |
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* jcamins |
never turned them on in the intranet either. |
| 18:13 |
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drojf |
you don't know how to decide on an "att" nr. in zebras bib1.att by any chance? there are a lot in that file, but if i would like to add one, do i just use a number that is not in the list? |
| 18:13 |
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jcamins |
drojf: check that the bib1 attribute set doesn't already have a number assigned for what you want, then, if it doesn't, just make up a large number. |
| 18:15 |
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jcamins |
Okay, now to make the tab not be the one that's open by default... |
| 18:15 |
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drojf |
what does "large" mean here? >10000? i have up to 9520 here i think, but my file is old |
| 18:15 |
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jcamins |
>6000 |
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jcamins |
<10000 |
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drojf |
ok, thanks |
| 18:15 |
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jcamins |
I recommend the 9xxx range. |
| 18:15 |
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jcamins |
If possible, I use 9{MARC_TAG} |
| 18:16 |
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drojf |
that is a nice idea, thanks |
| 18:16 |
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drojf |
why does the tab open by default if you just added it? |
| 18:16 |
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jcamins |
drojf: good question! |
| 18:17 |
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jcamins |
drojf: if I knew how jQuery worked, I'd be much faster at this sort of thing. ;) |
| 18:17 |
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drojf |
i added one for html audio/video streaming in my test installation and i had to search a whil euntil it DID open by default ;) |
| 18:17 |
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jcamins |
Hmmm... how did you make it open by default? |
| 18:17 |
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jcamins |
Maybe I can make it *not* open by default by reversing the process. |
| 18:18 |
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drojf |
heh, good question. wait |
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drojf |
oh, but it was in opac, so probably its all completely different there |
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jcamins |
Bah. Probably so. :( |
| 18:21 |
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jcamins |
Oh, never mind. |
| 18:21 |
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jcamins |
That was entirely user error. |
| 18:21 |
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jcamins |
I didn't notice that the URL was reloading over and over was the direct link to the image tab. |
| 18:21 |
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drojf |
oh |
| 18:22 |
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drojf |
:) |
| 18:22 |
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cait |
hi drojf :) |
| 18:22 |
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cait |
hi jcamins :) |
| 18:22 |
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drojf |
hi cait :) |
| 18:24 |
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jcamins |
*I was reloading |
| 18:24 |
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jcamins |
Heh. |
| 18:24 |
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jcamins |
Fortunately that only took ten minutes of my day. ;) |
| 18:24 |
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jcamins |
Hi cait. |
| 18:24 |
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wahanui |
Hi cait. are you looking at the rwc final? |
| 18:24 |
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* drojf |
is off to get some train tickets |
| 18:24 |
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cait |
to Konstanz? ;) |
| 18:25 |
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drojf |
heh, no to hannover for christmas |
| 18:25 |
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drojf |
i hope university will buy us tickets to konstanz ;) |
| 18:27 |
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cait |
ah |
| 18:27 |
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cait |
:) |
| 18:27 |
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cait |
you are from hannover? |
| 18:28 |
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drojf |
yes, kind of. from the village ;) |
| 18:28 |
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drojf |
hannover-land |
| 18:28 |
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cait |
ah |
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| 18:30 |
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jcamins |
Here's the new look: http://screencast.com/t/5MQkMFhlKTWV |
| 18:30 |
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jcamins |
cait: what do you think? |
| 18:31 |
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jcamins |
(I'm aware that the box doesn't go around the images; I'm working on that) |
| 18:31 |
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cait |
cold and tired? |
| 18:32 |
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cait |
heh |
| 18:32 |
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jcamins |
The pictures make you cold and tired? :( |
| 18:32 |
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cait |
if the box goes around the images it will be all right |
| 18:32 |
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cait |
no |
| 18:32 |
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jcamins |
Good. :) |
| 18:32 |
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cait |
I was at the christmas market with a friend |
| 18:32 |
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cait |
and at the cinema |
| 18:32 |
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cait |
and ... everywhere |
| 18:32 |
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cait |
and it was raining all the time |
| 18:32 |
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cait |
and now we are tired and waiting that one of us gives up and makes dinner |
| 18:33 |
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jcamins |
Heh. |
| 18:47 |
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jcamins |
What are you going to have for dinner? |
| 18:47 |
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cait |
spaghetti with pesto and some fish |
| 18:49 |
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magnus_afk |
jcamins: that last screenshot looks good |
| 18:50 |
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magnus_afk |
so multiple images per record? pretty cool! |
| 18:50 |
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jcamins |
magnus_afk: yep. |
| 18:51 |
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* jcamins |
considers adding an Images tab on the OPAC too. |
| 18:51 |
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jcamins |
It was pretty easy... |
| 18:51 |
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* jcamins |
does it. |
| 18:53 |
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magnus_afk |
hehe |
| 18:53 |
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magnus_afk |
could have one main picture showing up front and others in a tab? |
| 18:53 |
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magnus_afk |
is this based on kmkale's work, or from scratch? |
| 18:53 |
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jcamins |
That's the way it is in the OPAC, yeah. |
| 18:53 |
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jcamins |
This is based on kmkale's work in the sense that I started out by applying his patch. |
| 18:53 |
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jcamins |
This is from scratch in the sense that I don't think I kept a single line, other than a few comments. |
| 18:54 |
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magnus_afk |
wow |
| 18:55 |
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jcamins |
(and while I may be exaggerating a little, I'm pretty sure it's not very much... I completely changed the way one retrieves images, changed the database structure, and rewrote the interface routines) |
| 18:55 |
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magnus_afk |
sounds like busy saturday! |
| 18:55 |
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jcamins |
I did most of it Thursday. |
| 18:55 |
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magnus_afk |
ah, ok |
| 18:56 |
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jcamins |
If it weren't for stupid Javascript, I would've been done Thursday. |
| 18:56 |
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magnus_afk |
ouch |
| 18:56 |
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magnus_afk |
submitting a patch soon, then? |
| 18:57 |
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magnus_afk |
i know the naval academy will be overjoyed about this |
| 18:57 |
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jcamins |
Yep. |
| 18:57 |
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jcamins |
Who? |
| 18:57 |
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magnus_afk |
they use koha for lending computer equipment, and have been asking about the possibility of having pics of their gear |
| 18:57 |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
| 18:57 |
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jcamins |
Yeah, very doable. |
| 18:58 |
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jcamins |
As for whether people really want to look at pictures of power bricks, I couldn't say. |
| 18:58 |
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jcamins |
;) |
| 18:58 |
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magnus_afk |
the Royal Norwegian Naval Academy is my first and biggest customer ;-) |
| 18:58 |
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magnus_afk |
hehe |
| 18:58 |
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jcamins |
magnus_afk: very cool. Just don't tell them that no one finds pictures of power bricks interesting. ;) |
| 18:59 |
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magnus_afk |
i won't |
| 18:59 |
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magnus_afk |
i think it's more to do with finding the equipment and making sure the right stuff is returned, though... ;-) |
| 18:59 |
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magnus_afk |
the metadata is, um, sketchy... ;-) |
| 18:59 |
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jcamins |
Heh. |
| 19:01 |
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magnus_afk |
the library is not really involved in that part of koha, they have a separate branch for it and one for the library |
| 19:01 |
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magnus_afk |
s/for it/for IT/ |
| 19:04 |
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jcamins |
magnus_afk: http://screencast.com/t/FtCHd8EXYU |
| 19:04 |
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jcamins |
The image viewer requires styling, but I'm trying to bribe oleonard with cookies. |
| 19:05 |
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magnus_afk |
that looks cool! |
| 19:06 |
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magnus_afk |
can you click on images to view them larger? |
| 19:06 |
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jcamins |
Yep. |
| 19:06 |
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jcamins |
That would be the image viewer that requires styling. |
| 19:06 |
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magnus_afk |
ah, very cool! |
| 19:06 |
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jcamins |
And believe you me, it *desperately* needs styling. |
| 19:07 |
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magnus_afk |
hehe |
| 19:07 |
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jcamins |
But there are some things I can do, and some things I can't, and styling a new page falls into the latter category. |
| 19:07 |
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magnus_afk |
i doubt oleonard will be able to keep his hands off it ;-) |
| 19:11 |
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* jcamins |
thinks of another necessary addition. |
| 19:12 |
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* magnus_afk |
is curious |
| 19:13 |
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jcamins |
"View record image was attached to" |
| 19:13 |
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magnus_afk |
was? |
| 19:14 |
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jcamins |
In the upload tool. |
| 19:14 |
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* cait |
wishes she would find a way to connect her phone with her laptop |
| 19:14 |
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magnus_afk |
ah, so upload a picture and when that is done, view the record? |
| 19:14 |
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jcamins |
Right. |
| 19:14 |
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jcamins |
Provide a link, anyway. |
| 19:14 |
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magnus_afk |
cait: usb? |
| 19:15 |
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magnus_afk |
jcamins: cool (and yes, i was thinking about a link, i guess) |
| 19:15 |
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cait |
no cable |
| 19:15 |
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cait |
bluetooth as the plan... but doesn't want to wokr |
| 19:15 |
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magnus_afk |
:-( |
| 19:16 |
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* jcamins |
needs to write a test plan. |
| 19:16 |
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magnus_afk |
test_plan++ |
| 19:28 |
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* magnus_afk |
wanders off |
| 19:29 |
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* jcamins |
submits his counter-patch. |
| 19:31 |
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jcamins |
Oy. |
| 19:31 |
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jcamins |
That was quite a patch. |
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adminacct |
jcamins, ++ |
| 19:34 |
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* adminacct |
is will test the patch on monday |
| 19:34 |
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adminacct |
s/is// |
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jcamins |
indradg: thanks! |
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SchulzLibrary |
Is there currently a problem with the Koha server? I'm unable to use my account. |
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jcamins |
SchulzLibrary: you'll need to talk with your service provider. |
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jcamins |
Or do you mean the koha-community.org website? |
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SchulzLibrary |
It's not an ISP issue. I'm unable to connect to the Koha server. |
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jcamins |
SchulzLibrary: what Koha server? |
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jcamins |
You must have someone hosting the Koha server you're trying to connect to, right? |
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SchulzLibrary |
I'm unsure who is hosting, but the IP address is http://184.106.180.33:8080/ |
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jcamins |
SchulzLibrary: are you Caitlin? |
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SchulzLibrary |
I've been unable to connect for a while. |
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jcamins |
SchulzLibrary: no one here has access to your Koha server. |
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SchulzLibrary |
No, but this is Caitlin's library. |
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SchulzLibrary |
I understand that. |
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jcamins |
There is *nothing* anyone other than Caitlin or whoever set it up can do. |
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SchulzLibrary |
Thanks. |
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cait |
? |
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jcamins |
cait: self-hosted library. |
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jcamins |
Even if s/he wanted to pay me, I couldn't do anything without getting the passwords from Caitlin, the librarian. |
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rangi |
that was random |
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jcamins |
rangi: a bit. |
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jcamins |
rangi: good morning. |
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mbalmer |
so I got OPAC and Staff Interface running. At least that is something. |
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rangi |
morning |
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jcamins |
mbalmer: hooray! |
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jcamins |
mbalmer++ |
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mbalmer |
with the help of good folks here, I should add. |
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jcamins |
#koha++ |
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mbalmer |
stogram_vodkata++ |
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* jcamins |
is pretty sure that that doesn't mean what his initial interpretation of that suggested. |
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* jcamins |
tried Googling and didn't get any results. |
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jcamins |
mbalmer: does that actually mean "100 grams of Vodka," or is the similarity to South Slavic coincidental? |
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cait |
hi mbalmer |
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mbalmer |
jcamins, yes it means just that. |
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cait |
mbalmer: where are you from? |
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mbalmer |
and, hi cait ;) |
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jcamins |
mbalmer: cool! I love it when I understand things. |
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* jcamins |
contemplates oatmeal chocolate nobakes. |
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cait |
yum |
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jcamins |
We have fake peanut butter, so oatmeal chocolate no bakes, here I come! |
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dzho |
fake peanut butter? |
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dzho |
someone allergic? |
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jcamins |
dzho: no, organic peanut butter doesn't have enough chemicals to keep the no bakes from disintegrating. |
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jcamins |
However, I have a bigger problem: only 1 cup of oats! |
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cait |
uh |
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jcamins |
(and they're not on sale) |
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jcamins |
Ooh! Maybe I should try something with saltines! |
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jcamins |
Something along these lines, only on the stovetop: http://oneordinaryday.wordpres[…]-saltine-cookies/ |
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jcamins |
Hm. |
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jcamins |
I'm not seeing any stovetop options. |
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jcamins |
Welp. That's weird. |
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jcamins |
@later tell wizzyrea If you ever want to make saltine-chocolate toffees, make sure that your brown sugar isn't dried out. If it is dried out, the result is... weird. |
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huginn` |
jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
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