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jcamins |
! |
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jcamins |
The page actually loaded! |
| 00:05 |
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jcamins |
How does @EXPORT work? |
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| 00:12 |
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jcamins |
Where do warns go? |
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chris_n |
warns go to your apache log |
| 00:12 |
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jcamins |
Never mind. |
| 00:12 |
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jcamins |
Found it. |
| 00:13 |
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* jcamins |
has been using packages recently, and forgot that koha-dev had its own logs. |
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jcamins |
Hm. |
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| 00:39 |
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jcamins |
The thumbnail is not yet working. |
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melia |
rangi? |
| 00:39 |
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wahanui |
I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS! |
| 00:40 |
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melia |
hehe. I actually meant is rangi here? |
| 00:40 |
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talljoy |
melia? |
| 00:40 |
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wahanui |
I LIKE BEER AND I LOVE ANSWERING RFP |
| 00:40 |
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talljoy |
lol |
| 00:40 |
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melia |
haha! mine says beer?! |
| 00:41 |
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bag |
mtj? |
| 00:41 |
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wahanui |
DeM KraZy NutZ!! |
| 00:50 |
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rangi |
melia: here now |
| 00:50 |
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jcamins |
I keep on getting a "premature end of script headers" error. Anyone have any advice on troubleshooting? |
| 00:50 |
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rangi |
read the error log? |
| 00:51 |
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rangi |
what it means is, the script died, before it printed out the headers |
| 00:51 |
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melia |
rangi: I was going to ask you about git am -iu3 to make sure I'm doing it right. so first I do wget (copy patch from bug). then git am -iu3 attachment blah blah. right? |
| 00:51 |
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rangi |
the other trick you can do is |
| 00:51 |
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rangi |
jcamins: my $cgi = CGI->new(); |
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rangi |
print $cgi->header; |
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rangi |
right near the top of your script |
| 00:51 |
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jcamins |
Oh, I see. |
| 00:52 |
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jcamins |
That makes sense. |
| 00:52 |
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jcamins |
This doesn't print headers. |
| 00:52 |
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rangi |
melia: you can do git bz apply |
| 00:52 |
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rangi |
if it fails it will leave the patch in /tmp |
| 00:52 |
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rangi |
and tell you |
| 00:52 |
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rangi |
then you can do |
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rangi |
git am --abort |
| 00:52 |
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rangi |
and git am -iu3 /where/the/patch/is (cut and paste) |
| 00:53 |
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rangi |
or, you can wget it |
| 00:53 |
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rangi |
whatever works best for you |
| 00:53 |
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melia |
what if I forgot the git am --abort in between? do I need to start over? |
| 00:54 |
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rangi |
it will probably yell at you |
| 00:54 |
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melia |
hehe. ok I'll start over. :) |
| 00:54 |
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rangi |
:) |
| 00:54 |
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melia |
thanks |
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rangi |
no worries |
| 00:56 |
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jcamins |
How do I prevent my web browser from caching? |
| 00:57 |
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jcamins |
Cache-Control, I think. |
| 00:57 |
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jcamins |
Or not. |
| 01:02 |
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jcamins |
Why does it only work half the time? |
| 01:03 |
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jcamins |
Oh. |
| 01:03 |
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jcamins |
I bet int() rounds. |
| 01:03 |
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jcamins |
No, it doesn't. |
| 01:03 |
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jcamins |
Why does it seem like it does? |
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jcamins |
Never mind. |
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* jcamins |
is the jQuery MASTER! |
| 02:41 |
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bag |
heh |
| 02:46 |
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jcamins |
template variables? |
| 03:14 |
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jcamins |
@quote search template |
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huginn` |
jcamins: No matching quotes were found. |
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jcamins |
@quote search vars |
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huginn` |
jcamins: 1 found: #135: "rangi: $tempate->{VARS}->{'LoginBranchname'} -..." |
| 03:14 |
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jcamins |
@quote get 135 |
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huginn` |
jcamins: Quote #135: "rangi: $tempate->{VARS}->{'LoginBranchname'} - without the typo" (added by cait at 07:30 PM, May 20, 2011) |
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jcamins |
Isn't there a way to retrieve the title and author without parsing the entire record? |
| 04:12 |
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wizzyrea |
biblio.title? |
| 04:13 |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: yeah, but in Perl? |
| 04:13 |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: preferably without accessing the DB directly. |
| 04:13 |
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wizzyrea |
oh, dunno I'd have to poke at it. |
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jcamins |
Got it. GetBiblio. |
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jcamins |
Hey, could I do push $template->{VARS}, %hash? |
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AmitG |
heya bag |
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bag |
heya AmitG |
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bag |
how are you today? |
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AmitG |
i m fine what about you? |
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cait |
morning #koha |
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bag |
heya cait |
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cait |
hi bag :) |
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bag |
ah AmitG I'm doing well :) |
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AmitG |
heya cait |
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cait |
hi AmitG |
| 06:10 |
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adminacct |
aargh!!!! someone called me a "Dear Madam" on the m/l :( |
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| 06:10 |
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AmitG |
heya adminacct :D |
| 06:11 |
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indradg |
hey AmitG |
| 06:11 |
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AmitG |
heya indradg |
| 06:11 |
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wahanui |
indradg is the one who told me. |
| 06:11 |
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indradg |
wahanui, forget me |
| 06:11 |
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wahanui |
indradg: I forgot me |
| 06:13 |
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cait |
lol |
| 06:14 |
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cait |
hi indradg :) |
| 06:14 |
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indradg |
hiya cait |
| 06:14 |
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cait |
can someone help me with some perl? :) |
| 06:14 |
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cait |
I am trying to figure something out in the serials module |
| 06:14 |
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cait |
onesubscription => (scalar(@$subscriptiondescs)==1), |
| 06:31 |
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fredericd |
cait: strange statement |
| 06:32 |
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cait |
morning fredericd :) |
| 06:32 |
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cait |
I was looking at a bug nicole filed and it's quite interesting |
| 06:32 |
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cait |
bug 7338 |
| 06:32 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7338 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, NEW , link to serial detail wrong |
| 06:32 |
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cait |
it turned out to be a scoping problem |
| 06:32 |
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fredericd |
good morning |
| 06:32 |
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cait |
and I discovered there is a view to that page we don't ever use |
| 06:32 |
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cait |
if you have more than one subscription to the record |
| 06:32 |
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cait |
and the url parameter is the biblionumber |
| 06:33 |
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cait |
it will show all subscriptions and the issues on the page - and then it makes sense to show the subscription number before the issue |
| 06:35 |
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cait |
ok, that probably does not make much sense? |
| 06:37 |
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cait |
I think I got it... but needs more testing |
| 06:40 |
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fredericd |
why at all is the subscription number displayed on each line of the issues table? |
| 06:41 |
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cait |
fredericd: because of the view for a record with more than 1 subscription |
| 06:41 |
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cait |
I have updated the bug with a screenshot |
| 06:41 |
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cait |
it should not show on a page with only 1 subscription - that's the scoping problem |
| 06:42 |
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cait |
the template variable was wrong: year.onescubscription instead of onesubscription |
| 06:49 |
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AmitG |
heya fredericd |
| 06:49 |
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wahanui |
i guess fredericd is translation manager for 3.8 |
| 06:56 |
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fredericd |
cait: rather than sending a variable to TT, you could check the array length directly in TT |
| 06:57 |
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indradg |
fredericd, did you get my email regarding the person wanting to do tibetan translation/ |
| 06:57 |
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cait |
fredericd: my main problem is, I am trying to see how this was supposed to work |
| 06:58 |
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fredericd |
indradg: no |
| 06:58 |
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fredericd |
could you resend it? |
| 06:58 |
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cait |
fredericd: it seems weird that we are never using that view of the page |
| 06:58 |
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fredericd |
where is this view in the template? |
| 06:59 |
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indradg |
fredericd, i sent it to f.demians tamil.fr |
| 06:59 |
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indradg |
that be the correct address? |
| 07:01 |
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fredericd |
yes |
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cait |
fredericd: create 2 subscriptions with for one record |
| 07:08 |
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cait |
fredericd: then call the serials-collection page with the bilbionumber, instead of the subscription id |
| 07:09 |
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cait |
I added comments to the bug |
| 07:10 |
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fredericd |
can you get a title with two subscriptions on the Serial Collection page? |
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| 07:12 |
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fredericd |
cait: have you seen you can send a request like 'serials-collection.pl?subscriptionid=9&subscriptionid=45' and get a result |
| 07:13 |
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cait |
hm not yet |
| 07:13 |
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cait |
yes, that works too |
| 07:13 |
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fredericd |
but I can't see any place where this page is called this way |
| 07:13 |
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cait |
there was a lot of afford made to make it flexible like that |
| 07:14 |
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cait |
exactly |
| 07:14 |
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cait |
and it would be useful I think |
| 07:14 |
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cait |
it's quite a mystery |
| 07:15 |
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fredericd |
So I do think it would be useful |
| 07:15 |
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fredericd |
It may be added on serials search result page |
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| 07:20 |
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cait |
hm yes |
| 07:21 |
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cait |
I think the "show any subscriptions" link should show up on the page |
| 07:21 |
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cait |
when there is more than one subscription |
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fredericd |
or it should alway be displayed. This way you can get the other subscriptions that you can't reach otherwise |
| 07:27 |
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cait |
yes |
| 07:28 |
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cait |
i wonder where this got lost |
| 07:29 |
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fredericd |
yes, too bad. It seems it was possible to call this page with a biblionumber as parameter rather than subscriptionid |
| 07:29 |
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cait |
does this line correctly check for the existence of the parameter in the url? |
| 07:29 |
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cait |
subscr=>$query->param('subscriptionid'), ? |
| 07:29 |
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cait |
it's one of the template variables |
| 07:31 |
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fredericd |
it's ok. |
| 07:32 |
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cait |
hm |
| 07:32 |
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cait |
weird |
| 07:32 |
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cait |
[% IF ( subscr ) %] |
| 07:32 |
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cait |
[% UNLESS ( onesubscription ) %] |
| 07:32 |
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cait |
<tr ><td colspan="7"> <a href="serials-collection.pl?biblionumber=[% biblionumber %]">See any subscription attached to this biblio</a></td> |
| 07:32 |
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cait |
</tr>[% END %] |
| 07:32 |
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cait |
[% END %] |
| 07:32 |
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cait |
if the parameter is there and it's more than one subscription... show the link? |
| 07:32 |
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cait |
but it's not working |
| 07:33 |
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alex_a |
bonjour #koha |
| 07:33 |
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fredericd |
for me onesubcription must be removed. It adds confusion |
| 07:35 |
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cait |
it's in a lot of places |
| 07:35 |
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cait |
I think onesubscription is supposed to check if it's 1 or more |
| 07:36 |
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cait |
and the other is for checking how you called the template - if you have restricted it to show only specific subscriptions |
| 07:38 |
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cait |
show the link, if there is more than 1 subscription and I have not explicitly told the view to only show |
| 07:38 |
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cait |
but I don't see why it doesn't wrk like that |
| 07:39 |
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fredericd |
take a look at my patch, and see how it works with a biblio having several subscriptions |
| 07:40 |
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cait |
will try to do tonight - have to run |
| 07:41 |
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cait |
or will be late at work |
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fredericd |
me too... have a nice ride |
| 07:41 |
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cait |
thx :) |
| 07:41 |
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cait |
you too |
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reiveune |
hello |
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paul_p |
good morning everybody ! |
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AmitG |
heya paul_p |
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asaurat |
hallo |
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kf |
hi again #koha |
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asaurat |
hallo kf! |
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kf |
hi asaurat :) |
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magnuse |
biblibre++ for the euro-hackfest |
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kf |
yep |
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kf |
now we only have to figure out a way to get there ... :) |
| 08:25 |
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magnuse |
magnuse-- for having previous commitments = i will miss it :-( |
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huginn` |
magnuse: Error: You're not allowed to adjust your own karma. |
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kf |
ooh! |
| 08:25 |
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magnuse |
it's the week of the annual library meeting in norway, and my libhist project is paying me to go there to talk about the project... |
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kf |
ah bummer |
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magnuse |
oh yes! |
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kf |
and the annual library meeting is all week too I guess? |
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magnuse |
wednesad-friday |
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kf |
hmpf |
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magnuse |
indeed |
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kf |
:( |
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hdl |
hi all |
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kf |
hi hdl |
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magnuse |
ki ora, flying fox! |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
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kf |
bonjour gaetan_B |
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gaetan_B |
guten morgen kf ! |
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kf |
:) |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build 560 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #491 1 mo. 21 j ago) |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) kohagit: updatedatabase: Adding missing \n at the end of 2 print <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]25981f626344b79f0> / Bug 7028 - updated the koha-conf.xml template <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c4b28aaf3d513f6eb> / Fix for Bug 6818 - acquisitions basket groups could use some design work <http://git.koha-community.org/gi |
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kf |
oh unstable again? |
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magnuse |
looks like it hasn't been stable in 1 month and 3 weeks? |
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kf |
hm but lots of work ws done on it |
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kf |
thought we had reached stable yesterday - but that was perhaps 3.6 |
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magnuse |
possibly |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_6679' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]fbd782f649ebe999d> / Bug 6679: fix missing use strict <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a11dd6139120f2ba0> |
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francharb |
hi |
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wahanui |
hola, francharb |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #560: STILL UNSTABLE in 53 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/560/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Fix for Bug 6818 - acquisitions basket groups could use some design work |
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jenkins_koha |
* robin: Bug 7028 - updated the koha-conf.xml template |
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jenkins_koha |
* paul.poulain: updatedatabase: Adding missing \n at the end of 2 print |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6818 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , acquisitions basket groups could use some design work |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7028 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , koha-conf.xml template that comes with the packages needs updating |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build 561 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #491 1 mo. 21 j ago) |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7342] aqbudgets statistics doesn't work when using Authorized values on sort1_authcat or sort2_authcat <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7342> |
| 10:11 |
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francharb |
rangi, wizzyrea, kf : sorry for my "way to long" answer on the bugzilla 5347. i just realised how to do a two lines answer right now... |
| 10:11 |
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francharb |
:) |
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kf |
I still disagree ;) |
| 10:16 |
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francharb |
kf, that it should be done with another development, |
| 10:16 |
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francharb |
? |
| 10:16 |
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francharb |
or that the item tag is already used to display biblio and item info? |
| 10:18 |
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kf |
francharb: the <item> in claims CAN NOT displayi tem information :) |
| 10:18 |
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kf |
that's the difference |
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kf |
it can only display title level information at the moment |
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kf |
and you get a list of books - but not of item information |
| 10:18 |
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francharb |
haaaaa |
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kf |
so people will get confused why you can't for example display a callnumber in there |
| 10:18 |
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francharb |
sure |
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kf |
and for the ODUE that would work |
| 10:18 |
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francharb |
i get it now |
| 10:19 |
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francharb |
could you had that on the ticket? |
| 10:20 |
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francharb |
i thougt it was working the same way |
| 10:20 |
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francharb |
well it should actually |
| 10:20 |
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francharb |
it's the item tag |
| 10:21 |
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francharb |
anyway, kf, do you think it's appriopriate to change this behavior within this development? |
| 10:21 |
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kf |
sorry will be back shortly |
| 10:28 |
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francharb |
kf, i did a new comment.. ;) |
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jenkins_koha |
Yippie, build fixed! |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #561: FIXED in 53 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/561/ |
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jenkins_koha |
paul.poulain: Bug 6679: fix missing use strict |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6679 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Fixing code so it passes basic Perl::Critic tests |
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kf |
francharb: commented :) |
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mib_odamqk |
I work in a school library in Berlin, Germany. I have been 'assigned' to look into your software but have little technical experience. I have some general questions about this software. 1. In the demo version I am only able to search English-Language book databases. Is it also possible to search German language book databases? |
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mib_odamqk |
2. Can more than one library administrator catalogue books at the same time? |
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magnuse |
mib_odamqk: re number 1: are you thinking of "copy cataloguing", where you search and fetch records from for example library of congress? |
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magnuse |
if so: yes, you can set it up to search any openly available Z39.50 database |
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magnuse |
(and SRU too soon, hopefully) |
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magnuse |
re 2: yes, you can have as many people cataloguing as you wish |
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magnuse |
kf is our german koha expert, but she might not be available at the moment |
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magnuse |
here is some documentation on how to "Add a Z39.50 Target": http://manual.koha-community.o[…]n.html#z3950admin |
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paul_p |
mib_odamqk, Berlin in Germany ? You should speak german with kf ;-) |
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mib_odamqk |
Yes copy cataloging |
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mib_odamqk |
in the demo version the z39.50 databases that were coming up were all english |
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kf |
sorry, not here now |
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kf |
but I will be back in 1 hour |
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kf |
bin in einer stunde wieder da |
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francharb |
kf, are you available this afternoon to talk about your last comment? i dont know how to do it... Joubu needs more specifications |
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mib_odamqk |
Gut, wir konnen das machen |
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mib_odamqk |
I am available until about 14:00 GMT+1 |
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kf |
vielleicht etwas mehr als eine stunde, aber fast immer hier |
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kf |
francharb: I think reanming it to leave the door open for later would be enough for now |
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magnuse |
mib_odamqk: the demo you tried is probably just created by americans, with other americans in mind ;-) |
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kf |
francharb: the other thing is a nice to have :) |
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mib_odamqk |
Ich bin english mutterspracher aber meine deutsche assistantin komment gleich zurück |
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mib_odamqk |
that makes sense with the demo version |
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kf_afk |
will be back later |
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francharb |
kf_afk, "reanming"? renaming? |
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francharb |
:) |
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magnuse |
mib_odamqk: i have a demo here with norwegian z39.50 targets: http://demo.bibkat.no:8080/ (login: test1/test1) |
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francharb |
see y |
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francharb |
a |
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francharb |
kf_afk, talk to you later! |
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magnuse |
mib_odamqk: and as long as you know the z39.50 "address" of the catalogues you want to search, it's easy to add them |
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mib_odamqk |
perfect. |
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mib_odamqk |
This is really helpful information and helps me get a better idea of the possibilities of the software. Thank you! |
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magnuse |
no problem! don't be afraid to ask more, if there is more we can help you with ;-) |
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mib_odamqk |
For now that is it. Shall I leave the window open incase I have more questions? |
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magnuse |
that's up to you! ;-) if you are using mibbit i think you might get logged off if you are inactive for a while, but then it's just to log back on later |
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mib_odamqk |
Ok then I will close it and come back when I have more questions. Thanks! |
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magnuse |
see you later! |
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gaetan_B |
i've stumbled on the problem described in bug 6374, it seems to be a bit forgotten as no one as commented since may |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6374 normal, P5 - low, ---, chris, NEW , Use "size" as names/hash keys leads to an unexpected results when using Template::Toolkit (name of a virtual method there) |
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gaetan_B |
i'm not coming with a solution unfortunately ;) |
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jcamins_away |
@later tell oleonard Could you be persuaded to style an image viewer if I shipped you a package of cookies and/or fudge? |
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jcamins_away: The operation succeeded. |
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kf |
back |
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kf |
francharb_afk: still around? :) |
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francharb_afk |
kf |
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francharb_afk |
yep |
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francharb |
i answered you back on bugzilla |
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francharb |
;) |
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kf |
I saw it :) |
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kf |
I am still sticking to my first suggestion :) |
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kf |
and I have examples for item data and vendors |
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kf |
I know of libraries who make the vendors stick the barcode labels, inventory numbers and callnumbers to the books |
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francharb |
ok kf |
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kf |
we don't have a library with Koha doing that, but i know about others. so this is all not for now |
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francharb |
so it makes more sense now |
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kf |
perhaps we can wait and get some more opinions :) |
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kf |
the late order management is a very nice addition and works nicely too |
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francharb |
kf, how do you see the acqclaim notice with biblio and item level info + aqorders info? |
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kf |
I don't thinke we have to change the feature - the only question is if we rename the tag or not |
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kf |
francharb: that's a good question |
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kf |
and you are right |
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kf |
I am not sure how to solve that, have to think about it |
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francharb |
ok, so for the moment, lets go for the renaming of the tag maybe |
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francharb |
do you mean renaming the tag for the acqclaim notice only? |
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kf |
I was thinking about a general term |
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kf |
but we could use something like <order> perhaps |
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kf |
to make clear it's about acq relevant data |
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Oak |
kia ora #koha |
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* Oak |
waves at cait |
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kf |
hi Oak :) |
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Oak |
hello miss cait |
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magnuse |
Oak |
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Oak |
magnuse |
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magnuse |
jcamins_away: an image viewer for koha? |
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Oak |
:) |
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magnuse |
yay |
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libranto |
hi everyone |
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libranto |
is there any todo list for koha development |
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libranto |
i need some features |
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magnuse |
libranto: we use bugzilla for that sort of thing: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/ |
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libranto |
ok |
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libranto |
i will create ana account |
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libranto |
and then? |
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magnuse |
search first to see if others have suggested what you want to suggest |
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magnuse |
if you don't find anything, enter a new bug |
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libranto |
bug? (: |
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libranto |
i need course rezerve list module |
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magnuse |
that's a description of something that's not working, or a description of an enhancement |
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libranto |
ok |
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paul_p |
libranto, we call that a bug because it's bugzilla. But it can be used for enhancement too |
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magnuse |
and course reserves is definitely something others have been interested in |
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libranto |
ok |
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libranto |
i m newbee (: |
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magnuse |
hm, there's a blogpost or wiki page somewhere you should read, then - i'm trying to remember where... ;-) |
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magnuse |
this is a good starting point: http://koha-community.org/about/enhancing-koha/ |
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libranto |
i mean i dont know how long takes suggestions to inplement |
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magnuse |
hehe, that's a good question |
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magnuse |
if someone likes the idea it could take hours |
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magnuse |
if noone catches on to it, it could happen... never |
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magnuse |
to be sure something is implemented you probably have to pay someone to do it |
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libranto |
liblime made that module but i m not interested in Liblime |
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magnuse |
if you can't do it yourself |
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libranto |
good (: |
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rhcl_away |
안녕하세요 #Koha |
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magnuse |
libranto: here's a very good blogpost outlining how suggestions for koha are treated: http://www.myacpl.org/koha/?p=555 |
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chris_n |
paul_p about? |
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paul_p |
chris_n, yep |
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chris_n |
any chance you could push bug 7316? I've had a request to include it in 3.6.2 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7316 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, semarie-koha, ASSIGNED , Missing escaping in search results |
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chris_n |
looks like a security issue |
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paul_p |
chris_n, OK, will check in a few minuts |
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chris_n |
thanks! |
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libranto |
i have java background, if its possible i can develop userinterface by using solr but i dont know anything about perl ): |
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libranto |
collega and university library need course rezerve module |
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libranto |
): |
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chris_n |
anybody have a quick sort routine for sorting one array based on the order of the contents of a second array? |
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jcamins |
magnuse: indeed. |
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magnuse |
jcamins: ooh :-) |
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jcamins |
magnuse: it's based off of kmkale's patch for bug 1633. |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1633 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kmkale, ASSIGNED , Add ability to take book cover images from local img db |
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wonders if jcamins got sleep last night |
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jcamins |
chris_n: I did, thank you. |
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jcamins |
chris_n: hanlde_dir drove me to vodka, which put me right to sleep. :P |
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* chris_n |
will have to fix that someday |
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jcamins |
s/hanlde/handle/ |
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jcamins |
chris_n: my new Koha::Images will offer a starting point, kind of. |
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magnuse |
hehe, i was just going to sugget you might have an easier time of it with s/hanlde/handle/ ;-) |
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magnuse |
woohoo - success! |
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chris_n |
yup, getting a hanlde on things is often tuff |
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chris_n |
much easier to get a handle on them |
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chris_n |
jcamins: the sad reality is that that code has worked for 4 years, and I will probably never revisit it unless sufficiently motivated to do so :-) |
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jcamins |
magnuse: look at the handle_dir routine in tools/picture-upload.pl, and consider whether handle is really easier than hanlde. :P |
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jcamins |
chris_n: understandable. You didn't see me rushing to fix it. |
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jcamins |
And won't. |
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chris_n |
it was done in my nonage |
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* magnuse |
googles nonage and learns something new today too |
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jcamins |
chris_n: my reason for creating Koha::Images was entirely selfish: it made it easier to write the code I needed. |
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magnuse |
laziness, impatience and hubris... |
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chris_n |
magnuse: its an old english term |
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jcamins |
chris_n: how do you sort one array based on the contents of another array? |
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paul_p |
chris_n, 7316 pushed |
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chris_n |
The period of immaturity or youth. |
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jcamins |
bug 7316 |
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chris_n |
tnx paul_p |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7316 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, semarie-koha, ASSIGNED , Missing escaping in search results |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
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chris_n |
jcamins: that's what I'd like to know :-) |
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jcamins |
chris_n: I mean, how does the second array influence the first? |
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jcamins |
Or, how should it? |
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chris_n |
the list to be sorted is made up of the keys of a hash; the list to define the order those keys should be in is the second list |
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jcamins |
I see. |
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chris_n |
the order is non-standard |
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chris_n |
ie not ascending/dec/etc |
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jcamins |
It seems to me there's a clever Perl way to do it. |
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magnuse |
that wouldn't be the schwarzian transform, would it? |
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chris_n |
magnuse: it didn't look so, but I may be missing something |
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* chris_n |
often is :) |
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* jcamins |
learns something new. |
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chris_n |
magnuse: on second glance it might be coerced to do what I need |
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jcamins |
http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=75660 |
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jcamins |
Third answer. |
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New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7316 - Missing escaping in search results <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ba2f071573b4b927e> |
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wanders off to make pizza |
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jcamins |
Mmm. Friday. :) |
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libsysguy |
ok so who was the wise guy who committed the DOS files... |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: ? |
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libsysguy |
i just did a merge for hourly and all the XSLT MOD files were in conflict because of that pesky ^M at the end of every line |
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jcamins |
Wasn't me. |
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maximep |
just discovered a loop scoping problem in addbiblio.tt, but afraid I don't have time to send a patch :/ |
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maximep |
I hate that |
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libsysguy |
I would but I don't have anything based on master currently running |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: git log [filename]? |
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libsysguy |
jcamins...ahh it looks like they were already broken then rangi patched them to remove it |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: that explains it. |
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was all like 0_0 with all the conflicts |
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maximep |
modify patron attribute type |
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maximep |
Display in check-out: Check to show this attribute in patron check-out. |
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maximep |
in patron check-out ?? |
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maximep |
I have to translate it in french, but I don't understand it |
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maximep |
maybe I should just take a look at the fr-FR translation -_- |
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maximep |
which is totally wrong :/ |
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danmc |
is the mpm-itk bit in apache still required for koha or are there other ways? |
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jcamins |
danmc: if you don't care about security, you could use a different MPM. |
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jcamins |
danmc: but don't. |
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danmc |
so itk really is the way to go then? |
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* jcamins |
channels rangi. |
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jcamins |
Oh yes. |
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jcamins |
danmc: the alternative is to lose all the security benefits that having a different user provides. |
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jcamins |
danmc: why would you want to use a different MPM? |
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danmc |
mostly because itk isn't shipped directly with apache and it has to be patched into the sources (or install from a build that had it patched into its sources) |
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jcamins |
danmc: ah. This is for the Arch port? I'd strongly recommend requiring itk. |
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paul_p |
maximep, display in checkout = |
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paul_p |
it means that, when you're on circulation pages, this ext attribute will also be displayed on the left |
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paul_p |
it's useless if it's a password, or a statistical category for example. But it can be usefull if it's a login, or contain the cursus the patron is doing at the school |
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maximep |
paul_p: ah, that makes sense, thanks. |
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paul_p |
("hey, you want a book about science, but you're a philosophy student, are u sure ?) |
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really must learn to add correctly if he is going to continue to teach higher math :-P |
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danmc |
jcamins: sorry, phone. not Arch port, but the NetBSD package and our apache package doesn't currently have itk. |
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jcamins |
danmc: whoops. I knew it was some sort of port. |
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jcamins |
danmc: anyway, yes, itk should really remain a requirement. |
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jcamins |
danmc: I suppose you could make it depend on a default MPM and put in the warning "not to be used in production." |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.6.x build #21: SUCCESS in 1 h 9 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.6.x/21/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* robin: Bug 7028 - updated the koha-conf.xml template |
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jenkins_koha |
* paul.poulain: Bug 6679: fix missing use strict |
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jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Fix for Bug 6818 - acquisitions basket groups could use some design work |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7028 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , koha-conf.xml template that comes with the packages needs updating |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6679 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Fixing code so it passes basic Perl::Critic tests |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6818 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , acquisitions basket groups could use some design work |
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kf |
lol |
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wizzyrea |
kf, what do you think of Francois' latest comment on bug 5347 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5347 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , late order management |
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* chris_n |
goes after 3.4.x "STILL UNSTABLE" |
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chris_n |
grrrr |
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wizzyrea |
I think rangi told me that the patches for that were done? it was last night |
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wizzyrea |
sometime |
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wizzyrea |
someone explain to me why days off go by lightning quick, when work days just drag and drag. |
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kf |
I think it was 3.6 |
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kf |
done I mean |
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gaetan_B |
bye! |
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kf |
wizzyrea: still here? |
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wahanui |
i think here is where I work |
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wizzyrea |
hup |
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kf |
ah |
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kf |
I think item information is interesting |
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kf |
I know some libraries use additional services from vendors. like putting in the inventory numbers, barcodes etc for them |
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kf |
and the other thing |
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wahanui |
well, the other thing is i want to upgrade the version of koha. how? |
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kf |
perhaps we could name it <order>? |
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kf |
because it also has acq relevant information? |
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kf |
I am not sure. |
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wizzyrea |
aww |
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wizzyrea |
http://blog.archive.org/2011/1[…]internet-archive/ OpenLibrary/Internet Archive needs monies. |
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francharb_afk |
hi wizzyrea ! |
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* wizzyrea |
waves |
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francharb_afk |
i like the idea ok kf |
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wizzyrea |
hiyas :D |
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francharb_afk |
<order> tag sounds good to me |
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wizzyrea |
or aq-items or somesuch |
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francharb_afk |
<somesuch>? ;^) |
| 16:43 |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
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francharb_afk |
i like having a simple word for a tag |
| 16:45 |
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francharb_afk |
item |
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francharb_afk |
order |
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francharb_afk |
record |
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francharb_afk |
list |
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francharb_afk |
aq-items is too close to items |
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jcamins |
somesuch++ |
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francharb_afk |
haha |
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kf |
wizzyrea: it's nto items! |
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kf |
:) |
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jcamins |
@karma somesuch |
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huginn` |
jcamins: Karma for "somesuch" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1. |
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wizzyrea |
kf ok ok ok |
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kf |
wizzyrea: hehe :) |
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wizzyrea |
<3 |
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* kf |
sends cookies |
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kf |
long day, still at work |
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* wizzyrea |
sends cookies to kf |
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kf |
cookie exchange - that's a good idea |
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kf |
we should do a secret koha santa next year |
| 16:47 |
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francharb_afk |
<cookie>? |
| 16:48 |
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francharb_afk |
we should do a christmas css... |
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francharb_afk |
;) |
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nengard |
is there a permission that stops staff from seeing the 'set library' option? |
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francharb_afk |
nengard, i dont think so |
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jcamins |
nengard: SingleBranchMode. |
| 16:49 |
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nengard |
hmmm |
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jcamins |
nengard: so, no. |
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nengard |
but there is a preference :) |
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jcamins |
nengard: you could hide it with jQuery. |
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wizzyrea |
^^ I was going to suggest that |
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jcamins |
nengard: there is a preference, but it doesn't really work with holds. |
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jcamins |
I think. Check with sekjal on the exact problem. |
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nengard |
i didn't ask about holds |
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nengard |
i asked about the 'set library' link |
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nengard |
the one in the top right |
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wizzyrea |
he means using singlebranchmode mucks holds |
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wizzyrea |
turning it on has multiple effects |
| 16:51 |
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wizzyrea |
1. hides what you are referring to |
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jcamins |
nengard: right. If you turn on SingleBranchMode, holds are broken. |
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wizzyrea |
2. does something to holds |
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nengard |
OH!!!!! |
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wizzyrea |
etc. |
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nengard |
is there a bug for that? |
| 16:52 |
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nengard |
I assume so |
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jcamins |
nengard: somewhere... |
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* jcamins |
reported one at some point. |
| 16:52 |
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wizzyrea |
bug 2813 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2813 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Holds to Pull (pendingreserves.pl) to be limited by SingleBranchMode |
| 16:53 |
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wizzyrea |
uh, bug 4941 |
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jcamins |
nengard: there's a possibility that it was fixed in the last few months, I suppose. |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4941 normal, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Can't set branch in staff client when singleBranchMode is enabled |
| 16:53 |
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wizzyrea |
...but isn't that the point? |
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nengard |
right |
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Oak |
me go now |
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nengard |
i'm not seeing a bug about SingleBranchMode and holds |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: yes, that is the point, I thought. |
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jcamins |
nengard: hm. It might be broken. |
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jcamins |
*fixed |
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* jcamins |
sighs. |
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wizzyrea |
can we close that bug as "invalid" |
| 16:53 |
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wizzyrea |
jcamins |
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wizzyrea |
4941 |
| 16:54 |
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francharb_afk |
am i dreaming? there was a permission before that allow librarian to set or not their library? |
| 16:54 |
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francharb_afk |
right? |
| 16:54 |
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francharb_afk |
s/there was/there were |
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wizzyrea |
singlebranchmode, I thought |
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nengard |
it's a dup of bug 7156 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7156 major, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , singleBranchMode description wrong |
| 16:54 |
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francharb_afk |
wizzyrea, but it's a syspref, not a patron permission... |
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wizzyrea |
no, I don't think there was |
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francharb_afk |
hummm |
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francharb_afk |
thanks |
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wizzyrea |
I'm going to double check tho |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: arguably it should be split into two sysprefs, and made so that it doesn't impact anything else. |
| 16:56 |
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wizzyrea |
well ian has a point - we oughta just count brances |
| 16:56 |
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wizzyrea |
and there's a bug for that too |
| 16:56 |
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wizzyrea |
http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]=singlebranchmode |
| 16:56 |
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wizzyrea |
bug 7314 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7314 minor, P4, ---, ian.walls, NEW , Remove singleBranchMode system preference in favour of counting configured branches |
| 16:56 |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: except, really, there should be an option to not let people change which branch they're looking at. |
| 16:56 |
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wizzyrea |
^^ is the right path, I think |
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jcamins |
Which is what nengard asked for initially. |
| 16:57 |
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wizzyrea |
right, SBM apparently does that |
| 16:57 |
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nengard |
so what we need is to close some of those and open a new one that says SingleBranchMode should be two prefs |
| 16:57 |
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nengard |
one for staff and one for opac |
| 16:57 |
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nengard |
becuase right now it does both but says it only does opac |
| 16:57 |
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nengard |
right?? |
| 16:57 |
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wizzyrea |
or just change the pref descriptions |
| 16:57 |
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jcamins |
nengard: well, that's what bug 4941 is about. Also, "SingleBranchMode" should be renamed, becuse it's a confusing name. |
| 16:57 |
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wizzyrea |
single branch is a single branch in both opac and intranet |
| 16:58 |
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jcamins |
*because |
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* wizzyrea |
doesn't find it confusing |
| 16:58 |
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jcamins |
And SingleBranchMode should *only* affect display, not holds too. |
| 16:58 |
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nengard |
bug 7156 says the description is wrong |
| 16:58 |
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nengard |
but i agree with jcamins that we should have two prefs |
| 16:58 |
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wizzyrea |
now I can get behind that |
| 16:58 |
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wizzyrea |
WHY |
| 16:58 |
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nengard |
cause one to control both staff and opac is silly |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: centralized cataloging. |
| 16:58 |
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wizzyrea |
mmmmmm there are other ways around that |
| 16:59 |
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wizzyrea |
that don't involve single branch mode. |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: the workaround is jcamins_lib1, jcamins_lib2, jcamins_lib3, jcamins_lib4, if you're insistent on using single branch mode. |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: yes, the best option is to not use single branch mode at all. |
| 16:59 |
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jcamins |
But some libraries insist. |
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reiveune |
bye |
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wizzyrea |
then i assert that SBM should ONLY do the OPAC |
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wizzyrea |
like the description says |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: that makes sense to me. |
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wizzyrea |
because any quote 123 that a library can come up with for the staff sied |
| 17:01 |
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wizzyrea |
I think we can deal with using the tools we've already got |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: and then just use jQuery to hide the selection thing on the staff client if necessary. |
| 17:01 |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: but I think SingleBranchMode is a confusing name, since it makes it sound like you're disabling multiple branches, when really you should just be changing the OPAC. |
| 17:02 |
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wizzyrea |
it is if we decide that SBM is really OPAC-SBM |
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wizzyrea |
if SBM does nothing to the intranet |
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kf |
jcamins: I think it was made for libraries with only 1 branch - so should work everywhere |
| 17:02 |
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wizzyrea |
it makes sense to specify |
| 17:02 |
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rangi |
what kf said |
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kf |
:) |
| 17:03 |
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wizzyrea |
which actually brings me back to my original point, that libraries with multiple branches shouldn't be using single branch mode ever. |
| 17:03 |
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rangi |
what wizzyrea said |
| 17:03 |
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wizzyrea |
because that is not what it's for. |
| 17:03 |
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rangi |
ziggactly |
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ago43 is now known as ago43_lunch |
| 17:04 |
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rangi |
its for when you are a single branch |
| 17:04 |
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wizzyrea |
it sounds like you have a quote 123 on your hands |
| 17:04 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #562: SUCCESS in 1 h 49 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/562/ |
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jenkins_koha |
semarie-koha: Bug 7316 - Missing escaping in search results |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7316 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, semarie-koha, ASSIGNED , Missing escaping in search results |
| 17:04 |
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kf |
team #koha support |
| 17:04 |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: right. |
| 17:04 |
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jcamins |
kf: I don't really see the point, though. |
| 17:04 |
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kf |
yay! |
| 17:04 |
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jcamins |
I mean, counting is easy enough. |
| 17:04 |
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* jcamins |
agrees with that statement. |
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jenkins_koha |
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| 17:04 |
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jcamins |
@quote get 123 |
| 17:04 |
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huginn` |
jcamins: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
| 17:04 |
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jcamins |
huginn`: hey! |
| 17:04 |
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huginn` |
jcamins: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
| 17:05 |
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* wizzyrea |
finds instances of quote 123 all over the place now |
| 17:05 |
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wizzyrea |
and not just in libraries. |
| 17:06 |
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wizzyrea |
you might, given enough hours with me, hear me utter "oh god, they are quote 123'ing it!" |
| 17:07 |
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wizzyrea |
additionally - I think the original problem is really a people problem. |
| 17:07 |
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wizzyrea |
a training problem. |
| 17:07 |
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wizzyrea |
"don't do that!" |
| 17:07 |
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rangi |
they usually always are |
| 17:08 |
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rangi |
there is so much stuff in koha that is a result of 'omg my staff wont do what they are told to' |
| 17:08 |
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rangi |
please punish the whole world for me |
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jcamins |
@quote add rangi: there is so much stuff in Koha that is a result of 'omg my staff wont do what they are told to' rangi: please punish the whole world for me |
| 17:08 |
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huginn` |
jcamins: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
| 17:09 |
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* jcamins |
gives up. |
| 17:09 |
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francharb_afk |
rangi++ |
| 17:09 |
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wizzyrea |
@quote add member:rangi: there is so much stuff in Koha that is a result of 'omg my staff wont do what they are told to' member:rangi: please punish the whole world for me |
| 17:09 |
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huginn` |
wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #172 added. |
| 17:09 |
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francharb_afk |
for this one |
| 17:10 |
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francharb_afk |
i'm please to see it's only a french problem |
| 17:10 |
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francharb_afk |
;) |
| 17:10 |
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rangi |
hehe |
| 17:10 |
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wizzyrea |
@quote delete 172 |
| 17:10 |
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rangi |
not just a library one too |
| 17:10 |
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huginn` |
wizzyrea: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
| 17:10 |
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francharb_afk |
s/it's only/it's not only |
| 17:10 |
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rangi |
most software has stuff like that in it |
| 17:13 |
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francharb_afk |
i know but it feels like, since it's open source, people think they can customize as hell their system but when you come to upgrade, well, custom system is not that funny anymore... |
| 17:13 |
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jcamins |
Description of the relator term "bookseller": "Interest in the material is primarily lucrative." |
| 17:13 |
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jcamins |
Oh yeah? Just ask Borders! |
| 17:13 |
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wizzyrea |
@quote get 172 |
| 17:13 |
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huginn` |
wizzyrea: Error: There is no Quote with id #172 in my database for #koha. |
| 17:13 |
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wizzyrea |
@quote get 173 |
| 17:13 |
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rangi |
francharb_afk: exactly |
| 17:13 |
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huginn` |
wizzyrea: Quote #173: "rangi: there is so much stuff in Koha that is a result of 'omg my staff wont do what they are told to. Please punish the whole world for me.'" (added by wizzyrea at 05:10 PM, December 09, 2011) |
| 17:14 |
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francharb_afk |
i need to go! |
| 17:14 |
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francharb_afk |
see ya |
| 17:14 |
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* wizzyrea |
understands how most quotes get added by her now. |
| 17:14 |
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wizzyrea |
be |
| 17:14 |
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wizzyrea |
bye |
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kf |
bye wizzyrea |
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wizzyrea |
oh I"m not going anywhere |
| 17:20 |
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wizzyrea |
francharb_afk was ;) |
| 17:22 |
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kf |
oh |
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kf |
I should go |
| 17:22 |
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wizzyrea |
bye kf :) |
| 17:22 |
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rangi |
if im awake, you shouldnt be at work |
| 17:22 |
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rangi |
thats the rule hehe |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
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kf |
oh no |
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kf |
I broke the rule |
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* wizzyrea |
shoos kf |
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kf |
hmpf |
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kf |
okok |
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kf |
bye all |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.4.x build #68: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 h 25 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.4.x/68/ |
| 17:34 |
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jenkins_koha |
semarie-koha: Bug 7316 - Missing escaping in search results |
| 17:34 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7316 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, semarie-koha, ASSIGNED , Missing escaping in search results |
| 17:35 |
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rangi |
http://jenkins.koha-community.org/monitor/? two blue now! |
| 17:41 |
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* wizzyrea |
cheers |
| 17:41 |
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rhcl |
what do the #numbers on the graph mean? |
| 17:41 |
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jcamins |
Build numbers, I think. |
| 17:42 |
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rangi |
yep |
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chris_n |
rangi: hopefully three blue before the end of the day :) |
| 17:45 |
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* wizzyrea |
ponders the blue balls of jenkins |
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* wizzyrea |
hopes that you are all laughing too hard to continue typing. |
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rangi |
im shocked!!! |
| 17:48 |
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rhcl |
yea, that was my reaction too |
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rhcl |
at least she's pondering and not pounding |
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wizzyrea |
^^ |
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jcamins |
Yikes. Poor David. |
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jcamins |
DocBook->proprietary DTD->MARC = :'( |
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rangi |
yeah .. not easy |
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libsysguy |
for a report can i do a selector for itemtype from biblioitems? |
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libsysguy |
nevermind I Think i found it on the wiki |
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libsysguy |
maybe :p |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.6.x build #22: SUCCESS in 57 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.6.x/22/ |
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jenkins_koha |
semarie-koha: Bug 7316 - Missing escaping in search results |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7316 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, semarie-koha, ASSIGNED , Missing escaping in search results |
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* jcamins |
hands cait a cookie to reward her for having left work only shortly after rangi got up. |
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cait |
heh |
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cait |
positive reinforcement,nice |
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* cait |
nibbles on her cookie |
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jcamins |
chris_n: around? |
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chris_n |
yup |
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jcamins |
chris_n: I need your opinion on something: the cover images will need to be retrieved on both the intranet and OPAC. How should that be handled? An opac-image.pl script and a catalogue/image.pl script? |
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jcamins |
All the code that actually does the work was moved out of the .pl script and into a .pm, but there's still a little duplication. |
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* chris_n |
wonders if the image retrieval could be a function in a pm rather than a stand-alone |
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jcamins |
chris_n: the problem is that it has to be served by Apache, which means that there has to be a .pl to actually output the image data. |
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chris_n |
I suppose you'll have to do two scripts then |
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jcamins |
Unless, I suppose, I export both a RetrieveImage function and a ServeImage function, the latter of which produces the output with headers. |
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jcamins |
(so that all the script does is have the single call "print ServeImage($query)"; |
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jcamins |
I really don't like having anything to do with the UI in the pm, though. |
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jcamins |
chris_n: thanks. Just checking you didn't have any better ideas. |
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chris_n |
its friday and I've run out of good ideas for the week ;-) |
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chris_n |
but what you said sounds fine to me |
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jcamins |
You get a quota of good ideas per *week*? |
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* chris_n |
is also tired of debugging a script which takes 5 min to execute each run |
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* jcamins |
is jealous. :P |
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chris_n |
heh |
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cait |
heh |
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jcamins |
chris_n: oh, I hate debugging scripts like that. |
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libsysguy |
anybody using SSL with Koha |
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rangi |
yup |
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libsysguy |
apache keeps dying on me when i enable the ssl engine with the path to the key/crt |
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libsysguy |
and I can't figure out what im doing wrong (first ssl config) |
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rangi |
hmm that wont be a koha specific thing |
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rangi |
nothing in the error log? |
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libsysguy |
i figured i screwed up somewhere :p |
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libsysguy |
I didn't see anything |
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libsysguy |
i was tailing it |
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rangi |
did you do a stop, then a start? |
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libsysguy |
just a restart |
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wizzyrea |
tailing the main log or the log for the virtualhost? |
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rangi |
try a stop then start |
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rangi |
it might be asking for a pass phrase |
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libsysguy |
main log |
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libsysguy |
rangi thats it |
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wizzyrea |
woohoo |
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rangi |
yeah |
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rangi |
so thats cool security wise |
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libsysguy |
rangi++ |
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rangi |
kinda suck |
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jcamins |
Does it ask for a passphrase every time it starts? |
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rangi |
practicality wise |
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rangi |
yes |
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jcamins |
That seems less than ideal. |
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rangi |
if you chose to put a passphrase on the key |
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libsysguy |
indeed |
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rangi |
well you can use ssl for lots of things |
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wizzyrea |
curiosity - does a restart break it every time then? |
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rangi |
yes, so you will want to strip the passphrase |
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wizzyrea |
or once it's authd it's cool |
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rangi |
if you want to use it with apache |
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wizzyrea |
ew. |
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libsysguy |
gotcha |
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libsysguy |
and yes ew |
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wizzyrea |
the things you learn here. |
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libsysguy |
secondly...I guess I should configure the virtualhost to use 443 instead of just dumping SSL in the normal opac config |
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libsysguy |
if i just put the config in the opac side of things i get a 400 error |
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rangi |
yes |
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libsysguy |
cool |
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rangi |
i have 2 opac virtualhosts |
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rangi |
one on port 80 |
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rangi |
that just redirects to the 443 one |
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libsysguy |
i suppose I should listen on 443 as well |
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libsysguy |
oh look at that its already enabled |
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libsysguy |
those guys working on apache :p |
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rangi |
https://support.vazio.com/inde[…]e&kbarticleid=122 |
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libsysguy |
awww yeahhh rangi ++ |
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rangi |
make sure you get the permissions on the file write, so its not readable by all |
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rangi |
or even group |
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rangi |
just root |
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rangi |
right |
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libsysguy |
i think the group permissions are just set on ssl_group |
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rangi |
since now without a passphrase anyone can use it if they get hold of it |
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libsysguy |
or something of the like |
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libsysguy |
right |
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libsysguy |
rangi i give you this link http://instantboss.org/ |
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rangi |
teehee http://www.malcolmgladwellbookgenerator.com/ |
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rangi |
heh libsysguy |
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wizzyrea |
oh my |
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libsysguy |
use it wisely |
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wizzyrea |
Slurp by the author of The Tipping Point - What kittens' tongues teach us about derivatives |
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rangi |
its funny, cos its true |
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wizzyrea |
*nod* |
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wizzyrea |
keke |
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wizzyrea |
"Blank - 300 empty pages to fill with your own (*&#(@$ theories" |
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wizzyrea |
hey jcamins what's the marc field for subtitle, 245 ---- h? |
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rangi |
b isnt it? |
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wizzyrea |
b! yes |
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wizzyrea |
I just konw people get mad when bpnh are missing, i can never remember which is which |
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wizzyrea |
p is part I know |
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* rangi |
stabs himself for knowing that |
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wizzyrea |
n is number |
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wizzyrea |
s |
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rangi |
hhehe nicoe |
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rangi |
im gonna call nengard that now |
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Rural |
When setting the IP range of a library, can one set oddball ranges, like a /20? |
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nengard |
oh no |
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nengard |
did i have a typo? |
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nengard |
i'm trying to do 300 things at once and can't type fast enough |
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rangi |
yep, in your name :) |
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wizzyrea |
go slow, homie. |
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nengard |
can't go slow |
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nengard |
too much to get done |
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nengard |
and i'm gone all next week :( |
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wizzyrea |
oof |
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nengard |
5 days away for training on this one |
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wizzyrea |
bummer |
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nengard |
couldn't get good flights |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: 245$h is medium. |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: also, watch this: |
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jcamins |
@marc 245 h |
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huginn` |
jcamins: Medium |
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jcamins |
^^ isn't that cool? |
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wizzyrea |
hrmph |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
can you string them together |
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wizzyrea |
@marc bpnh |
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huginn` |
wizzyrea: unknown tag bpnh |
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wizzyrea |
see |
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wizzyrea |
that's what I needed :P |
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wizzyrea |
@marc b |
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huginn` |
wizzyrea: unknown tag b |
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wizzyrea |
oh |
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wizzyrea |
@marc 245 bpnh |
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huginn` |
wizzyrea: unknown field/subfield combination (245/bpnh) |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: if you put the subfields in that order, your catalogers are liable to bite your head off. |
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wizzyrea |
eh, i'm tasty. let em bite. |
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jcamins |
Just FYI. ;) |
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Rural |
So... No way to specify non-aligned sub-net ranges (ie. a /20)? |
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jcamins |
Rural: not to my knowledge. |
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jcamins |
Rural: making the IP range support the standard /n notation would be pretty nifty, though. |
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jcamins |
And shouldn't be too hard. |
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jcamins |
*hinthint* |
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jcamins |
;) |
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libsysguy |
rangi how did you do your redirect...did you actually do a redirect or just a rewite rule? |
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Rural |
jcamins: Thanks. And I agree. It would be nifty. |
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rangi |
redirect |
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libsysguy |
ok cool, except the login page? |
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rangi |
no, whole site is ssl |
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rangi |
hit http://library.plantandfood.co.nz |
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libsysguy |
ahh well played sir... |
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jcamins |
Rural: you should try it. It would be a good way to get your feet wet on the code, if you haven't contributed anything yet. :) |
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jcamins |
rangi: what have you done to me?!? I've been channelling you all day! |
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rangi |
heh |
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Rural |
jcamins: I've got about 20 minutes of experience running Koha. Jumping into the code would be premature. But after I've got some more experience... I'll put it on my list. |
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wizzyrea |
ah yea, making koha better is on everyone's list |
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jcamins |
Rural: nonsense. Fresh eyes are always welcome. :D |
| 19:41 |
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Rural |
On a different topic: There must be catalogs of common books that one can import into Koha. Probably a plethora to choose from. Any pointers/suggestions? |
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jcamins |
irspy? |
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jcamins |
irspy is http://irspy.indexdata.com. |
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jcamins |
irspy? |
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wahanui |
irspy is, like, http://irspy.indexdata.com |
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jcamins |
There we go. |
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jcamins |
wahanui: forget irspy |
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wahanui |
jcamins: I forgot irspy |
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jcamins |
irspy is a good source for identifying Z39.50 targets. See http://irspy.indexdata.com. |
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jcamins |
irspy? |
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wahanui |
somebody said irspy was a good source for identifying Z39.50 targets. See http://irspy.indexdata.com. |
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jcamins |
Even better. |
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jcamins |
Rural: irspy has a list of Z39.50 targets you can use. |
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Rural |
Thanks. |
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Rural |
Or can Koha tie into an online catalog? That would be much better. |
| 19:44 |
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wizzyrea |
koha is an online catalog :P |
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Rural |
Nice. |
| 19:44 |
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wizzyrea |
what are you trying to do exactly? |
| 19:44 |
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wizzyrea |
the first question? |
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wahanui |
somebody said the first question was "What are you trying to do?" |
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wizzyrea |
keke |
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Rural |
Just trying to save our librarians from having to enter all of a book's information. |
| 19:45 |
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wizzyrea |
oh |
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Rural |
I see that I can import Marc records. |
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jcamins |
Rural: that's what copy cataloging is all about. You'd use Z39.50 if you don't have a subscription to OCLC. |
| 19:46 |
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wizzyrea |
^^ |
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Rural |
Ok. |
| 19:46 |
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wizzyrea |
so there's a button |
| 19:46 |
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wizzyrea |
in cataloging |
| 19:46 |
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wizzyrea |
z39.50 search |
| 19:47 |
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* wizzyrea |
just goes to the manual... one minute |
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wizzyrea |
manual? |
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wahanui |
manual is, like, at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation |
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wizzyrea |
http://manual.koha-community.o[…]ng.html#addbibrec |
| 19:47 |
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Rural |
Gotcha. |
| 19:48 |
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wizzyrea |
most times people do this by ISBN |
| 19:48 |
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Rural |
Ya. I'm digging through the manual and reading a newbie guide. It's a lot to take in. |
| 19:48 |
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Rural |
But I'm not complaining. |
| 19:48 |
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wizzyrea |
koha does lots of stuff :) |
| 19:48 |
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wizzyrea |
but, that 2nd link up there is pretty much exctly what you're wanting to do |
| 19:48 |
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wizzyrea |
or at least, as I understand it |
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Rural |
Ya. This is making sense. I don't think I've been successful at adding a Z39.50 search target. But I get the picture. |
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Rural |
Thanks. |
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rangi |
Rural: you arent behind a firewall eh? |
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rangi |
sometimes you need to open some outbound ports |
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jcamins |
Rural: if you installed the sample Z39.50 servers, the LC one should Just Work. |
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rangi |
(as well as get the right config) |
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trea |
any suggestions on how to deal with a zebraqueue that doesn't seem to be updating via the cronjob? |
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Rural |
I don't think it's a firewall issue. (Networks are my thing.) |
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wizzyrea |
oh did you install the sample z servers? |
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jcamins |
trea: How do you know it's not updating? |
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Rural |
Just have to find one that I don't need a name or password to access. |
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trea |
select * from zebraqueue has a ton of old stuff in it |
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rangi |
where done is 0 ? |
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jcamins |
trea: and if you run it manually with -v, does it say anything? |
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jcamins |
Rural: none of the servers listed on irspy should require username/password, so far as I know. |
| 20:05 |
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rangi |
cos select * will show you done stuff too, unless you use the where |
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jwagner |
trea, this query will show you titles of bibs that are waiting for indexing: select zebraqueue.id, zebraqueue.biblio_auth_number, zebraqueue.operation, zebraqueue.server, zebraqueue.done, zebraqueue.time, biblio.title from zebraqueue join biblio on (zebraqueue.biblio_auth_number = biblio.biblionumber) where done = '0' and zebraqueue.server = 'biblioserver' |
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trea |
ah, my bad. in this case using where done = 0 only shows a few items, that are well within the cron's interval |
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Rural |
Hmmm... I don't see any sample Z39.50 servers. |
| 20:07 |
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trea |
thanks for the help everyone |
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Rural |
Suppose I should find the sample ones to install. |
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jcamins |
Rural: I'd imagine it would be just as fast to just enter LC by hand. |
| 20:13 |
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Rural |
Ah! Library of Congress. Gotcha. |
| 20:16 |
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wizzyrea |
@quote get 173 |
| 20:16 |
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huginn` |
wizzyrea: Quote #173: "rangi: there is so much stuff in Koha that is a result of 'omg my staff wont do what they are told to. Please punish the whole world for me.'" (added by wizzyrea at 05:10 PM, December 09, 2011) |
| 20:16 |
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wahanui |
i already had it that way, huginn`. |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: was that in response to something? |
| 20:17 |
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jcamins |
Quote #173: "rangi: there? |
| 20:17 |
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wahanui |
i heard Quote #173: "rangi: there was so much stuff in Koha that is a result of 'omg huginn`'s staff wont do what they are told to. Please punish the whole world for me.'" (added by wizzyrea at 05:10 PM, December 09, 2011) |
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wizzyrea |
um, yes and no |
| 20:17 |
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wizzyrea |
it makes me laugh |
| 20:17 |
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jcamins |
Ah. Yes, it makes me laugh, too. |
| 20:17 |
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rangi |
@quote get 130 |
| 20:17 |
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huginn` |
rangi: Quote #130: "rangi: or you could save time and just slam your head on the desk multiple times now, cos without tracking ur changes, ull be doing that after trying to upgrade" (added by wizzyrea at 07:02 PM, April 27, 2011) |
| 20:17 |
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rangi |
thats my fave |
| 20:17 |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
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jcamins |
That one is pretty great. |
| 20:17 |
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wizzyrea |
that's a good one too |
| 20:17 |
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trea |
indeed |
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wizzyrea |
you'd end up with about the same amount of brain left either way |
| 20:19 |
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rangi |
and the kitten one |
| 20:19 |
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jcamins |
@quote get 129 |
| 20:19 |
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huginn` |
jcamins: Quote #129: "jcamins: take to heart the old saying- 'don't be a git, use git." (added by wizzyrea at 07:01 PM, April 27, 2011) |
| 20:19 |
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rangi |
@quote get 115 |
| 20:19 |
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huginn` |
rangi: Quote #115: "chris: friends don't let friends use proprietary software." (added by chris_n at 05:36 PM, January 19, 2011) |
| 20:19 |
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rangi |
hmm |
| 20:19 |
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rangi |
@quote get 90 |
| 20:19 |
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Rural |
Alright! Z39.50 searches are working. Almost ready to throw a librarian at this system. |
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huginn` |
rangi: Error: There is no Quote with id #90 in my database for #koha. |
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wizzyrea |
@quote search kitten |
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huginn` |
wizzyrea: 2 found: #91: "<chris> Free as in kittens is a silly phrase..." and #95: "< robin> to be honest, I think if you mention..." |
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rangi |
that one! |
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wizzyrea |
@quote get 91 |
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huginn` |
wizzyrea: Quote #91: "<chris> Free as in kittens is a silly phrase that should die, if FOSS is free as in kittens, proprietary software is free as in an inbred purebreed cat. That costs thousands of dollars in vet bills every year and is slightly retarded." (added by wizzyrea at 08:42 PM, August 19, 2010) |
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wahanui |
i already had it that way, huginn`. |
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rangi |
and robins too |
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rangi |
@quote get 95 |
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huginn` |
rangi: Quote #95: "< robin> to be honest, I think if you mention Koha and Perl, your CV could say your hobbies include puppy-kitten cage-fights, and you'd be snapped up :)" (added by chris at 09:36 PM, October 06, 2010) |
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wizzyrea |
lol |
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wizzyrea |
@quote search bacon |
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huginn` |
wizzyrea: 2 found: #16: "< wizzyrea> i mean, the point of american bacon..." and #17: "<wizzyrea> holy flaming bacon batman!" |
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wizzyrea |
@quote get 17 |
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huginn` |
wizzyrea: Quote #17: "<wizzyrea> holy flaming bacon batman!" (added by jdavidb at 09:40 PM, July 17, 2009) |
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schuster |
Confused looking at the download koha link - 3.6.1 was released November 29th, 2011, and it is saying 3.4.7 was released Dec 7th. I assume that is really 3.6.? the most recently done? |
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jcamins |
schuster: no, that's correct. There are multiple stable versions. |
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jcamins |
3.6.1 is the most up-to-date stable version, but 3.4.7 was released after 3.6.1. |
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schuster |
OK so if I wanted the most stable up to date I should go for the 3.6.1? We're going to build a community server for possible production next summer and have to give information to a third party. |
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jcamins |
schuster: that's correct. |
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schuster |
Thanks as always you are a wealth of information! |
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jcamins |
schuster: but by next summer, there will be new versions. |
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jcamins |
By the end of this month, there will be 3.6.2. |
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jcamins |
And by June there should be a 3.8.2 or so. |
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schuster |
ok thanks |
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schuster |
Yes, but I have to get them moving now or it will be 6 months before they do anything again! |
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jcamins |
schuster: of course. |
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jcamins |
Just make sure they don't think that providing you 3.6.1 is good enough for next summer. ;) |
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rhcl_lunch |
schuster: what do you mean by community server? |
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jcamins |
rhcl: a server that uses Koha and not a proprietary fork. |
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rhcl |
well, that sounds like koha to me, w/o adjectives |
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jcamins |
rhcl: agreed. |
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schuster |
Yes sorry, I'm living on the dark side wanting to come back into the light... |
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rhcl |
WB! |
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* jcamins |
can't remember his log on to Bugzilla at the moment. Could someone please ask Albert to attach the offending record to bug 2629? |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2629 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, ago, ASSIGNED , Diacritics not being ignored when searching |
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jcamins |
ago43: Oh, or I could just ask you directly. Could you please attach the offending record to bug 2629? |
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trea |
is 942$n the standard field for opac suppression? |
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jcamins |
trea: usually. |
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jcamins |
For MARC21. |
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trea |
okay, that being said - when the opacsuppression syspref is enabled, and you edit marc records to specify the 942$n to suppress said record, should this take effect immediately? or does it go into the zebraqueue and becomes suppressed after the next run of the zebra cron. |
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jcamins |
The latter. |
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trea |
okay, that would explain it then. jcamins++ |
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jcamins |
Hey, does anyone know why item records appear in reverse order in additem.pl? |
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jcamins |
@quote get 123 |
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huginn` |
jcamins: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
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jcamins |
Ah, right. Thanks, huginn`. |
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schuster |
Like oldest first or? what order do you see? |
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jcamins |
schuster: I have the newest item on the top. |
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jcamins |
But on every other page, the newest item is at the bottom. |
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schuster |
sorry my test system is belly up... New project for the weekend |
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jcamins |
It'd be a shame if you had nothing to do. :P |
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jcamins |
That'd be boring. |
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jcamins |
And would deny me your company while I'm working on Koha this weekend. |
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schuster |
look at the date added they are not sequential that way are they? |
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schuster |
I was looking at the demo online and that is how those are sorted. |
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jcamins |
Oh, and because I'm adding them one after the other, it's random? |
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jcamins |
That could be. |
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jcamins |
It's just a minor annoyance. |
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schuster |
On the regular display at one time those were "sorted" by the item type. I am not sure now we would have to look at the template for holdings - table sort |
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wizzyrea |
the regular display is sorted by homebranch -> acquisition date |
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wizzyrea |
dsc |
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wizzyrea |
I believe. |
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wizzyrea |
well... I take that back |
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jcamins |
Hm. |
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wizzyrea |
currently |
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wizzyrea |
it's doing it by holdingbranch |
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wizzyrea |
which is dumb. |
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wizzyrea |
unless that patch I did got in... |
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schuster |
jcamins - I'm leaving you in better hands... wizzyrea knows more than I and has done more patches! |
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jcamins |
schuster: it was just idle curiosity. As I said, it's only a minor annoyance. The collectors aren't interested in the staff client. |
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wizzyrea |
bug 7271 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7271 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, wizzyrea, ASSIGNED , Revert getitems default sort to homebranch instead of holding branch |
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wizzyrea |
tht will need quite a lot of testing |
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jcamins |
Ohhh. I see. I bet this is a side effect of sekjal's patch for improving the efficiency. |
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wizzyrea |
no, actually |
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wizzyrea |
side effect of one of owens patches to fix the links for the home branch in the opac |
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jcamins |
Huh. |
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wizzyrea |
and yes, I did in fact touch items.pm |
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wizzyrea |
and was terrified the whole time. |
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* jcamins |
sends wizzyrea a cookie. |
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* jcamins |
reconsiders, sends a bar of dark chocolate. |
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wizzyrea |
hehe ty |
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jcamins |
Like dementors, the only treatment for items.pm is chocolate. |
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wizzyrea |
(in all truth, I didn't find it *that* obtuse.) |
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wizzyrea |
(I mean, it was a little obtuse) |
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wizzyrea |
(but not search.pm obtuse) |
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jcamins |
Actually, Items.pm isn't as bad as a lot of the other code. But it's still scary. |
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jcamins |
Incidentally, didn't Holding branch show up on the OPAC in the past? |
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* jcamins |
checks whether he jQuery-d it away. |
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wizzyrea |
yes - that was the problem, it was putting the holding branch's url on the home branch name |
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wizzyrea |
or the other way around I can't remember |
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wizzyrea |
but something like that, you wouldn't necessarily get the website of the library you clicked on |
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jcamins |
No, I mean, I don't see Holding branch *at all*. |
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wizzyrea |
i think that's because it only shows holding branch. |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
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jcamins |
Okay. |
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wizzyrea |
and doesn't show home branch |
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jcamins |
So that's not new. |
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wizzyrea |
right |
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wizzyrea |
nothing changed there |
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* jcamins |
had never thought about it one way or the other before. |
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wizzyrea |
personally, and I know for my libraries, it'd be nice to see the homebranch instead of the holding branch there |
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* jcamins |
would find that more useful, too. |
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wizzyrea |
you know I didn't ever actually pursue that |
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wizzyrea |
or if I did It was at a time when I was much dumber |
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* jcamins |
decides to call it a day. |
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jcamins |
I'll sign off on your patch, if you'd like. :) |
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jcamins |
Make it a syspref, defaulting to the current behavior. |
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jcamins |
Good night, #koha. |
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wizzyrea |
or just show both :P |
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jcamins_away |
Or that. |
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wizzyrea |
which was what we did in the staff client |
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wizzyrea |
i will think about that |
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* wizzyrea |
has never made a syspref |
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wizzyrea |
that's like admitting defeat around here. |
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wizzyrea |
;) |
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schuster |
:) you learn and then I'll pester you later about how you did it. |
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trea |
anyone know if there is a bug with serial item deletions not updating their indexes in zebra? |
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jcamins_away |
trea: never heard of that. |
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* jcamins_away |
goes to eat dinner. |
