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22:31 huginn` jcamins: The operation succeeded.
22:31 jcamins @later tell wizzyrea If you ever want to make saltine-chocolate toffees, make sure that your brown sugar isn't dried out. If it is dried out, the result is... weird.
22:31 jcamins Welp. That's weird.
21:39 jcamins I'm not seeing any stovetop options.
21:39 jcamins Hm.
21:37 jcamins Something along these lines, only on the stovetop: http://oneordinaryday.wordpress.com/2009/07/25/chocolate-saltine-cookies/
21:36 jcamins Ooh! Maybe I should try something with saltines!
21:35 jcamins (and they're not on sale)
21:35 cait uh
21:35 jcamins However, I have a bigger problem: only 1 cup of oats!
21:35 jcamins dzho: no, organic peanut butter doesn't have enough chemicals to keep the no bakes from disintegrating.
21:32 dzho someone allergic?
21:31 dzho fake peanut butter?
21:29 jcamins We have fake peanut butter, so oatmeal chocolate no bakes, here I come!
21:28 cait yum
21:26 * jcamins contemplates oatmeal chocolate nobakes.
20:54 jcamins mbalmer: cool! I love it when I understand things.
20:52 mbalmer and, hi cait ;)
20:52 cait mbalmer: where are you from?
20:52 mbalmer jcamins, yes it means just that.
20:51 cait hi mbalmer
20:51 jcamins mbalmer: does that actually mean "100 grams of Vodka," or is the similarity to South Slavic coincidental?
20:48 * jcamins tried Googling and didn't get any results.
20:48 * jcamins is pretty sure that that doesn't mean what his initial interpretation of that suggested.
20:47 mbalmer stogram_vodkata++
20:46 jcamins #koha++
20:45 mbalmer with the help of good folks here, I should add.
20:45 jcamins mbalmer++
20:45 jcamins mbalmer: hooray!
20:45 rangi morning
20:45 mbalmer so I got OPAC and Staff Interface running. At least that is something.
20:43 jcamins rangi: good morning.
20:41 jcamins [off] I should perhaps drop Caitlin a note about training her staff a bit more.
20:40 jcamins rangi: a bit.
20:40 rangi that was random
20:40 jcamins Even if s/he wanted to pay me, I couldn't do anything without getting the passwords from Caitlin, the librarian.
20:39 jcamins cait: self-hosted library.
20:39 cait ?
20:38 SchulzLibrary Thanks.
20:38 jcamins There is *nothing* anyone other than Caitlin or whoever set it up can do.
20:38 SchulzLibrary I understand that.
20:38 SchulzLibrary No, but this is Caitlin's library.
20:38 jcamins SchulzLibrary: no one here has access to your Koha server.
20:37 SchulzLibrary I've been unable to connect for a while.
20:37 jcamins SchulzLibrary: are you Caitlin?
20:37 SchulzLibrary I'm unsure who is hosting, but the IP address is http://184.106.180.33:8080/
20:36 jcamins You must have someone hosting the Koha server you're trying to connect to, right?
20:36 jcamins SchulzLibrary: what Koha server?
20:36 SchulzLibrary It's not an ISP issue. I'm unable to connect to the Koha server.
20:35 jcamins Or do you mean the koha-community.org website?
20:35 jcamins SchulzLibrary: you'll need to talk with your service provider.
20:34 SchulzLibrary Is there currently a problem with the Koha server? I'm unable to use my account.
19:44 jcamins indradg: thanks!
19:34 adminacct s/is//
19:34 * adminacct is will test the patch on monday
19:34 adminacct jcamins, ++
19:31 jcamins That was quite a patch.
19:31 jcamins Oy.
19:29 * jcamins submits his counter-patch.
19:28 * magnus_afk wanders off
19:16 magnus_afk test_plan++
19:16 * jcamins needs to write a test plan.
19:15 magnus_afk :-(
19:15 cait bluetooth as the plan... but doesn't want to wokr
19:15 cait no cable
19:15 magnus_afk jcamins: cool (and yes, i was thinking about a link, i guess)
19:14 magnus_afk cait: usb?
19:14 jcamins Provide a link, anyway.
19:14 jcamins Right.
19:14 magnus_afk ah, so upload a picture and when that is done, view the record?
19:14 * cait wishes she would find a way to connect her phone with her laptop
19:14 jcamins In the upload tool.
19:13 magnus_afk was?
19:13 jcamins "View record image was attached to"
19:12 * magnus_afk is curious
19:11 * jcamins thinks of another necessary addition.
19:07 magnus_afk i doubt oleonard will be able to keep his hands off it ;-)
19:07 jcamins But there are some things I can do, and some things I can't, and styling a new page falls into the latter category.
19:07 magnus_afk hehe
19:06 jcamins And believe you me, it *desperately* needs styling.
19:06 magnus_afk ah, very cool!
19:06 jcamins That would be the image viewer that requires styling.
19:06 jcamins Yep.
19:06 magnus_afk can you click on images to view them larger?
19:05 magnus_afk that looks cool!
19:04 jcamins The image viewer requires styling, but I'm trying to bribe oleonard with cookies.
19:04 jcamins magnus_afk: http://screencast.com/t/FtCHd8EXYU
19:01 magnus_afk s/for it/for IT/
19:01 magnus_afk the library is not really involved in that part of koha, they have a separate branch for it and one for the library
18:59 jcamins Heh.
18:59 magnus_afk the metadata is, um, sketchy... ;-)
18:59 magnus_afk i think it's more to do with finding the equipment and making sure the right stuff is returned, though... ;-)
18:59 magnus_afk i won't
18:58 jcamins magnus_afk: very cool. Just don't tell them that no one finds pictures of power bricks interesting. ;)
18:58 magnus_afk hehe
18:58 magnus_afk the Royal Norwegian Naval Academy is my first and biggest customer ;-)
18:58 jcamins ;)
18:58 jcamins As for whether people really want to look at pictures of power bricks, I couldn't say.
18:57 jcamins Yeah, very doable.
18:57 jcamins Ah.
18:57 magnus_afk they use koha for lending computer equipment, and have been asking about the possibility of having pics of their gear
18:57 jcamins Who?
18:57 jcamins Yep.
18:57 magnus_afk i know the naval academy will be overjoyed about this
18:56 magnus_afk submitting a patch soon, then?
18:56 magnus_afk ouch
18:56 jcamins If it weren't for stupid Javascript, I would've been done Thursday.
18:55 magnus_afk ah, ok
18:55 jcamins I did most of it Thursday.
18:55 magnus_afk sounds like busy saturday!
18:55 jcamins (and while I may be exaggerating a little, I'm pretty sure it's not very much... I completely changed the way one retrieves images, changed the database structure, and rewrote the interface routines)
18:54 magnus_afk wow
18:53 jcamins This is from scratch in the sense that I don't think I kept a single line, other than a few comments.
18:53 jcamins This is based on kmkale's work in the sense that I started out by applying his patch.
18:53 jcamins That's the way it is in the OPAC, yeah.
18:53 magnus_afk is this based on kmkale's work, or from scratch?
18:53 magnus_afk could have one main picture showing up front and others in a tab?
18:53 magnus_afk hehe
18:51 * jcamins does it.
18:51 jcamins It was pretty easy...
18:51 * jcamins considers adding an Images tab on the OPAC too.
18:50 jcamins magnus_afk: yep.
18:50 magnus_afk so multiple images per record? pretty cool!
18:49 magnus_afk jcamins: that last screenshot looks good
18:47 cait spaghetti with pesto and some fish
18:47 jcamins What are you going to have for dinner?
18:33 jcamins Heh.
18:32 cait and now we are tired and waiting that one of us gives up and makes dinner
18:32 cait and it was raining all the time
18:32 cait and ... everywhere
18:32 cait and at the cinema
18:32 cait I was at the christmas market with a friend
18:32 jcamins Good. :)
18:32 cait no
18:32 cait if the box goes around the images it will be all right
18:32 jcamins The pictures make you cold and tired? :(
18:32 cait heh
18:31 cait cold and tired?
18:31 jcamins (I'm aware that the box doesn't go around the images; I'm working on that)
18:30 jcamins cait: what do you think?
18:30 jcamins Here's the new look: http://screencast.com/t/5MQkMFhlKTWV
18:28 cait ah
18:28 drojf hannover-land
18:28 drojf yes, kind of. from the village ;)
18:27 cait you are from hannover?
18:27 cait :)
18:27 cait ah
18:25 drojf i hope university will buy us tickets to konstanz ;)
18:25 drojf heh, no to hannover for christmas
18:24 cait to Konstanz? ;)
18:24 * drojf is off to get some train tickets
18:24 wahanui Hi cait. are you looking at the rwc final?
18:24 jcamins Hi cait.
18:24 jcamins Fortunately that only took ten minutes of my day. ;)
18:24 jcamins Heh.
18:24 jcamins *I was reloading
18:22 drojf hi cait :)
18:22 cait hi jcamins :)
18:22 cait hi drojf :)
18:22 drojf :)
18:21 drojf oh
18:21 jcamins I didn't notice that the URL was reloading over and over was the direct link to the image tab.
18:21 jcamins That was entirely user error.
18:21 jcamins Oh, never mind.
18:18 jcamins Bah. Probably so. :(
18:18 drojf oh, but it was in opac, so probably its all completely different there
18:18 drojf heh, good question. wait
18:17 jcamins Maybe I can make it *not* open by default by reversing the process.
18:17 jcamins Hmmm... how did you make it open by default?
18:17 drojf i added one for html audio/video streaming in my test installation and i had to search a whil euntil it DID open by default ;)
18:17 jcamins drojf: if I knew how jQuery worked, I'd be much faster at this sort of thing. ;)
18:16 jcamins drojf: good question!
18:16 drojf why does the tab open by default if you just added it?
18:16 drojf that is a nice idea, thanks
18:15 jcamins If possible, I use 9{MARC_TAG}
18:15 jcamins I recommend the 9xxx range.
18:15 drojf ok, thanks
18:15 jcamins <10000
18:15 jcamins >6000
18:15 drojf what does "large" mean here? >10000? i have up to 9520 here i think, but my file is old
18:15 jcamins Okay, now to make the tab not be the one that's open by default...
18:13 jcamins drojf: check that the bib1 attribute set doesn't already have a number assigned for what you want, then, if it doesn't, just make up a large number.
18:13 drojf you don't know how to decide on an "att" nr. in zebras bib1.att by any chance? there are a lot in that file, but if i would like to add one, do i just use a number that is not in the list?
18:04 * jcamins never turned them on in the intranet either.
18:03 * drojf1 never turned on covers
18:03 drojf1 yes, please. it looks quite ugly like in the screenshot
18:01 jcamins I want to add another tab next to "Descriptions" that includes that.
18:01 jcamins Here's what I don't like: http://screencast.com/t/9wfonerld7UW
18:00 drojf1 :)
18:00 jcamins :)
18:00 jcamins drojf1++ # for providing feedback
18:00 * drojf1 likes tabs
17:59 * jcamins decides the lack of feedback means that everyone thinks his ideas are so awesome, they are shocked into silence by their brilliance.
17:59 * jcamins wishes someone were around to give him feedback on whether that was a good idea or not.
17:57 * jcamins considers putting the images in a tab in the staff client rather than just sort of hanging out in the middle of the page the way the Amazon covers do.
17:56 jcamins Jeez. This patch is 60K, and as it turns out, I rewrote almost every single line.
17:40 jcamins Mine is nearly done... now I just have to add local cover images to the intranet.
17:40 jcamins :)
17:39 magnus_afk "my work here is done" he said, and wandered off again
17:38 magnus_afk yay ;-)
17:38 jcamins magnuse++
17:37 magnus_afk i think it comes with Perl::Critic
17:37 magnus_afk ah
17:37 jcamins (that there was no such program)
17:37 jcamins When I tried to run it, I just got an error.
17:37 jcamins I'll try that.
17:37 jcamins Thanks.
17:37 magnus_afk when i try to run perlcritic on ubuntu i'm told to install libperl-critic-perl
17:36 jcamins And the instructions assume that it does.
17:36 magnus_afk oops?
17:35 jcamins magnus_afk: right. It doesn't seem to exist, though.
17:35 magnus_afk tee hee ;-)
17:35 magnus_afk --brutal | --cruel | --harsh | --stern | --gentle
17:35 magnus_afk http://search.cpan.org/dist/Perl-Critic/bin/perlcritic ?
17:15 jcamins Does anyone know how to run perlcritic?
16:42 * jcamins curses the handle_dir code again.
16:36 jcamins The rarest fish species in Britain!
16:34 * magnus_afk wanders off again to prepare some arctic char for dinner
16:32 jcamins gmcharlt++ # UploadedFile is nifty!
16:32 jcamins o/
16:31 magnus_afk \o
16:14 jcamins chris_n: for the record, there is such a thing as too much error handling. :P
15:51 trea o/
15:51 * jcamins waves to trea.
14:13 huginn` jcamins: The operation succeeded.
14:13 jcamins @later tell gmcharlt Is there any reason not to move C4::UploadedFile to Koha::UploadedFile? It has no dependencies.
13:30 mbalmer now I can play.. nice.
13:29 drojf yeah, beer :)
13:29 mbalmer oh and yes, I owe you beer now ;)
13:29 mbalmer I just removed it ;)
13:28 drojf faster ;)
13:28 drojf should help
13:28 jcamins mbalmer: sudo a2dissite 000-default
13:28 drojf sudo a2dissite 000-default
13:28 jcamins ^^ what drojf said.
13:28 mbalmer yes, I was using a koha-common packages and used koha-create. No I did not disable 000-....
13:27 drojf mbalmer: have you disabled the 000-default site in apache?
13:27 mbalmer must be a pretty obvious mistake I made somewhere, but did not yet find by looking at the apache config files.
13:27 wahanui i think using the packages is better anyway
13:27 jcamins mbalmer: using the packages?
13:26 mbalmer jcamins, I installed 3.4 as per the docs on the wiki, ona dedicated machine, and more or less followed the instructions. biblio-intra.vnode.ch nicely presente the staff loging, but biblio.vnode.ch does not display the opac, but only an "It worked" page from apache.
13:24 jcamins It tends to just be me on the weekends.
13:22 drojf but you are right. i have not been here often, but i have never seen it this quiet.
13:21 jcamins drojf: fair enough.
13:21 drojf jcamins: but i am ill and bored now! ;)
13:18 jcamins mbalmer: drojf: also, I should point out that there are a lot more people around to offer help during the week. :)
13:17 jcamins mbalmer: what doesn't work about it?
13:17 mbalmer my first koha install is a fail, staff interface works, opacs doesn't (although I assigned different IP adresses to them)
13:14 jcamins <input type='checkbox' />. Never mind.
13:14 jcamins I don't suppose you happen to know how to do a checkbox in HTML?
13:06 drojf magic :) thanks!
13:05 jcamins drojf: if you have a git install, all you have to do to chane branches is `git checkout different_branch`
13:03 drojf i have a (probably stupid) git question. i used the wiki pages to install debian packages, have a local git repository now and pointed koha towards that. but i was wondering when i will work with different branches to work on different features… how can i test different branches in koha? how do i activate a certain branch to test it? is that just done by changing the branch in git?
12:57 drojf good day #koha
11:42 mbalmer cu!
11:32 BobB Good night now.
11:30 BobB Well, I hope Koha meets your needs. Enjoy your experience of it!
11:29 BobB heh, hopefully not too soon. :)
11:29 mbalmer it will eventually happen...
11:28 BobB When you do, this is a good place to get help. The mailing list is also very active.
11:28 mbalmer well, I don't have any pressing questions or problems (yet) ;)
11:27 BobB rangi keeps later hours than I do. :)
11:27 BobB I am in Australia. And I am also heading off to bed soon.
11:26 BobB You'll find more people here during the week. The channel is very active.
11:25 mbalmer hey BobB!
11:20 BobB hi mbalmer - welcome to #koha
11:08 * magnus_afk wanders off too
11:00 magnus_afk see ya!
11:00 * rangi wanders off
10:58 magnus_afk nope, but yay!
10:57 rangi magnus_afk: before i go did you see this http://openbiblio.net/2011/12/09/dblp-releases-its-1-8-million-bibliographic-records-as-open-data/
10:54 * magnus_afk wishes rangi a good night
10:53 rangi im in nz, and about to go to sleep
10:53 magnus_afk ...and good morning #koha
10:53 * magnus_afk is in norway
10:44 rangi all over the world
10:43 mbalmer from which continents are most people? (I am from Switzerland)
10:37 rangi most are sleeping at the moment
10:37 rangi you wont find many people about on the weekend
10:30 * mbalmer is new to koha and this channel.
10:30 mbalmer good day everyone!
08:38 * bag is going to dream :D
08:37 bag you too man
08:37 rangi sleep well
08:37 bag night dood
08:37 bag alright - I'm going to bed
08:37 bag yup that's a great name
08:36 rangi 14 green mps, shes the 14th
08:36 rangi mojo mathers .. great name too
08:36 rangi heya
08:36 bag hey there rangi
08:36 bag wow
07:53 rangi nz gets its first deaf member of parliament