| Time |
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Message |
| 00:00 |
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Small_2 |
yes |
| 00:00 |
|
Small_2 |
then i upgraded to 3.06 |
| 00:00 |
|
Small_2 |
and my searches are broken |
| 00:03 |
|
Small_2 |
Are you there> |
| 00:05 |
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moodaepo |
Small_2: Yea downloading the iso and just found your email to the live cd list, except I think that's a different one (I might be wrong) |
| 00:06 |
|
Small_2 |
ok |
| 00:06 |
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moodaepo |
Small_2: This http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Install_Option%29 is different from http://sourceforge.net/projects/kohalivecd/ which one are you using? |
| 00:07 |
|
Small_2 |
yes, so i downloaded that, then i upgraded it 3.06 and searches broke |
| 00:07 |
|
Small_2 |
oh |
| 00:07 |
|
Small_2 |
I am using the Koha Live Cd |
| 00:07 |
|
Small_2 |
from source forge |
| 00:15 |
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Small_2 |
is it almost done? |
| 00:16 |
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moodaepo |
Nope 75% done...and the roofing tar is getting nauseous. Ugh |
| 00:16 |
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Small_2 |
heh |
| 00:21 |
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| 00:24 |
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moodaepo |
Small_2: Ok the user which runs koha in the live cd is....koha |
| 00:24 |
|
Small_2 |
sudo -u koha says the user koha does not exist |
| 00:26 |
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Small_2 |
sudo: unknown user: koha |
| 00:27 |
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Small_2 |
are you there |
| 00:28 |
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| 00:31 |
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moodaepo |
Small_2: Sorry I take that back I think the live cd runs koha as root |
| 00:31 |
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Small_2 |
ok |
| 00:31 |
|
Small_2 |
so i was doing it right then |
| 00:32 |
|
Small_2 |
because sudo = root, right? |
| 00:33 |
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moodaepo |
Right but try it differently, do "sudo -i" and then run your reindex |
| 00:33 |
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Small_2 |
ok |
| 00:36 |
|
Small_2 |
what is the options to run with it again? |
| 00:37 |
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moodaepo |
Small_2: Isn't it just "perl rebuild_zebra.pl" |
| 00:38 |
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moodaepo |
I'm not really a koha user just hang out here for the cool people |
| 00:38 |
|
Small_2 |
haha |
| 00:38 |
|
Small_2 |
well |
| 00:38 |
|
Small_2 |
i run perl rebuild_zebra.pl |
| 00:38 |
|
Small_2 |
and it errors with the perrmissions problem |
| 00:38 |
|
Judit |
http://rebuild_zebra.pl/ -b -a -z |
| 00:38 |
|
Small_2 |
but if i go |
| 00:38 |
|
Small_2 |
sudo -i |
| 00:39 |
|
Small_2 |
it says file not found |
| 00:39 |
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moodaepo |
I think the ENV is not set right. |
| 00:39 |
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Small_2 |
the what? |
| 00:39 |
|
wahanui |
somebody said the was a stop word |
| 00:39 |
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moodaepo |
Try this "echo "export PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib:\$PERL5LIB" >> ~/.bashrc" |
| 00:40 |
|
Small_2 |
ok |
| 00:40 |
|
Small_2 |
with the ""'s? |
| 00:41 |
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moodaepo |
After that ". ~/.bashrc" |
| 00:41 |
|
moodaepo |
No only stuff within the quotes |
| 00:42 |
|
Small_2 |
Permission Denied |
| 00:42 |
|
Small_2 |
Do i use sudo |
| 00:42 |
|
moodaepo |
Yea after sudo -i |
| 00:43 |
|
Small_2 |
Still, Permission Denied |
| 00:43 |
|
Small_2 |
:( |
| 00:43 |
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eythian |
phew, now awaiting my last fight home. Sick of planes already. |
| 00:44 |
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Judit |
where are you? still in india? |
| 00:44 |
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Small_2 |
fight? |
| 00:44 |
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Judit |
haha:) true |
| 00:45 |
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rangi |
hmm auckland or christchurch is my guess |
| 00:45 |
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Judit |
what do you mean your last fight? how many did you beat up so far |
| 00:45 |
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Small_2 |
where did moodaepo go? |
| 00:45 |
|
eythian |
In Auckland. |
| 00:45 |
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Small_2 |
heh |
| 00:45 |
|
eythian |
Auckland is always a fight. |
| 00:45 |
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moodaepo |
Small_2: I don't think I can think of why you are getting permission denied |
| 00:46 |
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Small_2 |
:( |
| 00:46 |
|
Small_2 |
says |
| 00:46 |
|
Small_2 |
-bash: /home/emery/.bashrc: Permission denied |
| 00:49 |
|
Small_2 |
anyone? |
| 00:50 |
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moodaepo |
Small_2: In command line does it say root koha at the beginning of the line? If not what does it say? |
| 00:50 |
|
Small_2 |
emeryemery-Aspire-T690: |
| 00:51 |
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moodaepo |
Yea that's not right, when I do "sudo -i" I see rootkoha |
| 00:51 |
|
Small_2 |
oh |
| 00:51 |
|
Small_2 |
oops |
| 00:51 |
|
Small_2 |
i did sudo -i with the bashrc line |
| 00:51 |
|
Small_2 |
now it says |
| 00:52 |
|
Small_2 |
rootemery-Aspire-T690: |
| 00:52 |
|
Small_2 |
But now we have a new problem |
| 00:52 |
|
Small_2 |
rootemery-Aspire-T690: |
| 00:52 |
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Small_2 |
oops |
| 00:52 |
|
Small_2 |
-bash: /root/.bashrc: No such file or directory |
| 00:52 |
|
moodaepo |
Have you tried running the rebuild/reindex when the command line looks like that? |
| 00:52 |
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Small_2 |
nope |
| 00:53 |
|
Small_2 |
should i? |
| 00:53 |
|
moodaepo |
Try it and see. |
| 00:53 |
|
Small_2 |
in the manual |
| 00:53 |
|
Small_2 |
it says to run, |
| 00:53 |
|
Small_2 |
misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -w |
| 00:53 |
|
Small_2 |
but that says file not found |
| 00:54 |
|
Small_2 |
i did this |
| 00:54 |
|
Small_2 |
rootemery-Aspire-T690:/usr/share/koha/bin# migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -w |
| 00:54 |
|
Small_2 |
and it ran with no errors |
| 00:54 |
|
moodaepo |
Right try /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -w |
| 00:55 |
|
moodaepo |
Cool now you have reached the limit of my koha knowledge |
| 00:55 |
|
Small_2 |
ok |
| 00:55 |
|
Small_2 |
well, searches still dont work |
| 00:55 |
|
eythian |
look in the documentation for koha-rebuild-zebra |
| 00:55 |
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Small_2 |
ok |
| 00:56 |
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* moodaepo |
heads home |
| 00:56 |
|
moodaepo |
@wunder 56001 |
| 00:56 |
|
huginn |
moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is 8.1�C (6:54 PM CST on November 07, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Windchill: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.20 in 1022.6 hPa (Steady). |
| 00:57 |
|
Small_2 |
says koha-rebuild-zebra: command not found |
| 00:57 |
|
Small_2 |
where should i run it? |
| 00:58 |
|
eythian |
use sudo, it's a system command |
| 00:59 |
|
Small_2 |
ok |
| 00:59 |
|
Small_2 |
sudo: koha-rebuild-zebra: command not found |
| 01:01 |
|
eythian |
you installed the packages right? |
| 01:01 |
|
Small_2 |
i did not install, used Koha Live Cd |
| 01:01 |
|
Small_2 |
it worked fine |
| 01:01 |
|
Small_2 |
then i upgraded to 3.06 |
| 01:01 |
|
Small_2 |
and it broke |
| 01:02 |
|
eythian |
oh |
| 01:02 |
|
eythian |
i can't help then |
| 01:02 |
|
Small_2 |
:( |
| 01:03 |
|
Small_2 |
i'll come back tomorrow |
| 01:03 |
|
Small_2 |
bye |
| 01:03 |
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| 01:04 |
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rangi |
heh |
| 01:04 |
|
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trea-away is now known as trea |
| 01:04 |
|
rangi |
i count 5 ppl have told him to use the packages now |
| 01:04 |
|
eythian |
he tried last time I saw, but failed |
| 01:05 |
|
rangi |
that's pretty much the sum total of the last 4 days of asking for help |
| 01:05 |
|
rangi |
i think he is not cutting and pasting |
| 01:05 |
|
eythian |
really needs someone who knows computers to do it. |
| 01:05 |
|
rangi |
yes |
| 01:05 |
|
rangi |
i think helping him to install koha is not actually helping him |
| 01:05 |
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eythian |
I remember the name 'emery' from way back when, too. |
| 01:05 |
|
eythian |
yeah |
| 01:06 |
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rangi |
oh true |
| 01:16 |
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* eythian |
isleaving on a jet plane |
| 01:20 |
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rangi |
cya tomorrow |
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Amit_Gupta |
heya chris |
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Amit_Gupta |
heya bg |
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Judit |
do you have the date for kohacon 2012 |
| 03:58 |
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Judit |
? |
| 03:59 |
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Amit_Gupta |
heya Judit |
| 04:00 |
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Judit |
hi |
| 04:00 |
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wahanui |
bonjour, Judit |
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Amit_Gupta |
heya wahanui |
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kmkale |
Namaskaar #koha :) |
| 04:29 |
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Amit_Gupta |
heya kmkale |
| 04:29 |
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rangi |
hi kmkale, getting some rest now its all over? |
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wizzyrea |
mornin cait |
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cait |
morning liz |
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cait |
isn't it late for you? |
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wizzyrea |
10:30, not so late |
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kmkale |
rangi: nope. no rest. though I am bone tired, there is tons of work pending as I did not get any chance during the week :( |
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kmkale |
hi Amit_Gupta |
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kmkale |
hi cait wizzyrea :) |
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cait |
hi kmkale and Amit_Gupta |
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wizzyrea |
hi everybody :) |
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Judit1 |
hi rea |
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Amit_Gupta |
heya cait |
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cait |
hi Amit_Gupta and Judit1 |
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Judit1 |
hi cait |
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Judit1 |
hm |
| 05:48 |
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Judit1 |
can i have 2 different opacs for my 2 branches? |
| 05:49 |
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cait |
hmm |
| 05:49 |
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cait |
there is a way to do it |
| 05:50 |
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cait |
but I have never tried it |
| 05:50 |
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cait |
let me find the wiki page |
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cait |
Judit1: I thought there was more documentation... http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]rfaces_by_URL_RFC |
| 05:51 |
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Judit1 |
thanks |
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cait |
Judit1: perhaps try google for more :) |
| 05:52 |
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Judit1 |
i did, but google is not my friend today |
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jransom |
Koustabha !! kia ora |
| 06:32 |
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jransom |
we are at Mumbai airport |
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kmkale |
ouch |
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kmkale |
missed ya :( |
| 06:37 |
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jransom |
no - I'm still here :) |
| 06:37 |
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jransom |
but you missed hugging brooke and me and paul and francois and ian and ruth and julian good bye |
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Judit1 |
that is a long list :) |
| 06:40 |
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jransom |
heya Judit |
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cait |
hi jransom :) safe travels to you all! :) |
| 06:44 |
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kmkale |
:( missing you all already |
| 06:45 |
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kmkale |
gotta run. catch you later |
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jransom is now known as brooke |
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rangi |
whens ur flight brooke ? |
| 06:47 |
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* cait |
imagines that transformation |
| 06:47 |
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brooke |
Ummm 16 minutesish |
| 06:47 |
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brooke |
1pm dep |
| 06:47 |
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brooke |
but boards in 16ish |
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rangi |
same for jo? |
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Judit1 |
cait :D |
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brooke |
aye |
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brooke |
can you believe that they had the nerve to seat me near that ratbag? |
| 06:47 |
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brooke |
now I'm going to have to sit near her on the plane and pretend to like her ;) |
| 06:48 |
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cait |
wow, tht sounds hard |
| 06:48 |
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brooke |
it shall be the hardest thing I've ever done ;) |
| 06:49 |
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brooke |
but seriously |
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brooke |
conference was wonderful |
| 06:49 |
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brooke |
I have so many faces to go with names now :D |
| 06:49 |
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rangi |
thats good |
| 06:49 |
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rangi |
i hope you are planning to do write ups for the koha-community site |
| 06:50 |
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rangi |
:) |
| 06:50 |
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brooke is now known as jo |
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jo is now known as joann |
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cait |
yep |
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cait |
be fair and share :) |
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joann |
its me now :) |
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joann |
I have a blog post ready to go - and plan to write one about my overall reflections on kjohacon |
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joann |
we did a round table at dinner last night about what we each 'learnt - and it was pretty universal. |
| 06:52 |
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rangi |
cool |
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joann |
right - shall try carrying this to other end of the terminal and continue typing at the gate |
| 06:53 |
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joann |
if i get cut off - adious |
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rangi |
:) |
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magnuse |
namaskar #koha |
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cait |
good morning magnuse :) |
| 07:39 |
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magnuse |
hiya cait! |
| 07:39 |
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rangi |
magnuse: http://opac.koha.workbuffer.or[…]a/svc/report?id=6 |
| 07:40 |
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magnuse |
huh? [["Database management / Bstan-ʼdzin-rgya-mtsho"],["this title has a < and \" and a & in it"],["Anvil of stars /"],["He Pa Auroa :"],["Good omens /"]] |
| 07:41 |
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rangi |
its JSON |
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magnuse |
a ha! ;-) |
| 07:41 |
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rangi |
you can pass an id of any report |
| 07:41 |
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rangi |
that you have marked as 'public' |
| 07:42 |
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magnuse |
ooh, very cool! |
| 07:42 |
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cait |
now you only have to teach us how to make that pretty :) |
| 07:42 |
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rangi |
whcih means that now you can ajax the output of any report |
| 07:42 |
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magnuse |
yay |
| 07:42 |
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rangi |
and show it anywhere you want on the opac |
| 07:42 |
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rangi |
you do something like |
| 07:42 |
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rangi |
<div id='blah'></div> |
| 07:42 |
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magnuse |
did you hear that? it was the sound of my head exploding! |
| 07:43 |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
I will perhaps hear it in a few seconds |
| 07:43 |
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cait |
because of the distance |
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magnuse |
:-) |
| 07:43 |
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rangi |
$.get("/cgi-bin/event_homepage.pl", function(data){ document.getElementById("eventsInner").innerHTML = data; |
| 07:44 |
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rangi |
}); |
| 07:44 |
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magnuse |
it'll be perfect for showing "new books" etc on the front page |
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rangi |
changing the id, and the url of course |
| 07:44 |
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rangi |
yep, new books |
| 07:44 |
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rangi |
new serials received |
| 07:44 |
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rangi |
new orders |
| 07:44 |
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* cait |
drools |
| 07:44 |
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rangi |
issues stats |
| 07:44 |
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magnuse |
new patrons ;-) |
| 07:44 |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
| 07:44 |
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rangi |
whatever |
| 07:44 |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 7.6�C (8:39 AM CET on November 08, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Windchill: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016.5 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:44 |
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cait |
hm slightly warmer than yesterday |
| 07:44 |
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magnuse |
and it's so flexible! |
| 07:45 |
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rangi |
well its json, so you can whatever you want to it in jquery |
| 07:45 |
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rangi |
easily |
| 07:45 |
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magnuse |
and it builds on existing functionality! |
| 07:45 |
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rangi |
and can create a report to give whatever data you want |
| 07:45 |
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magnuse |
made of awesome |
| 07:45 |
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rangi |
so now all i need to do |
| 07:45 |
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rangi |
is add an option to cache |
| 07:45 |
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cait |
rangi++ :) |
| 07:45 |
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rangi |
so that its fast to display |
| 07:45 |
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magnuse |
yeah, that's a good idea |
| 07:45 |
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rangi |
but ill do that tomorrow |
| 07:45 |
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magnuse |
rangi++ definitely |
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* magnuse |
makes a note to investigate templates in js further |
| 07:47 |
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* cait |
adds a note to teach cait about your findings |
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ok, bbiab |
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rangi |
http://api.jquery.com/jQuery.parseJSON/ |
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http://api.jquery.com/jQuery.getJSON/ |
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rangi |
that 2nd one is better |
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jquery rules |
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jquery++ |
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hi |
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rangi |
hi alex_a |
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magnuse |
i have played a little with koha and ajax before - i have an opac that fetches and displays data from freebase, but there seems to be some problem at the moment... |
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bonjour alex_a |
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alex_a |
hi magnuse rangi |
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magnuse |
btw: i have been thinking maybe e could do more enhanced content for the opac with ajax, to increase the responsiveness of the pages themselves and to get less feature bloat... |
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rangi |
yup |
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and maybe we could have some modular way to include code for enhanced content too... |
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rangi |
yeah :) |
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hello |
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privet, reiveune |
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@weather Mumbai |
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kmkale: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 34.0�C (1:10 PM IST on November 08, 2011). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Falling). |
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@wunder boo |
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magnuse |
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Oak |
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:) kia ora #koha |
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@later tell BobB No, I wasn't. Sorry. You can leave messages for me and I do usually see them before too long :) |
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slef: The operation succeeded. |
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kf |
hi #koha |
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magnuse |
guten tag kf |
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heya kf |
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hi magnuse :) |
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kmkale |
@quote random |
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kmkale: Quote #135: "rangi: $tempate->{VARS}->{'LoginBranchname'} - without the typo" (added by cait at 07:30 PM, May 20, 2011) |
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@quote random |
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kmkale: Quote #24: "<kmkale> interesting word munin. in many indian languages we have a word munim who used to be a sort of accountant for all businessmen" (added by gmcharlt at 02:07 PM, August 07, 2009) |
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:) |
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o/ |
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@quote random |
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jwagner: Quote #2: "<jwagner> Hope springs eternal in little kitty hearts. Better watch the doors :-)" (added by gmcharlt at 04:04 PM, June 03, 2009) |
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@quote random |
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huginn |
kf: Quote #107: "<kmkale> This is a food channel. Sometimes we discuss Koha too ;)" (added by jwagner at 02:49 PM, November 29, 2010) |
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wahanui |
i already had it that way, huginn. |
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jcamins |
this? |
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wahanui |
this is a pizza topping |
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kf |
lol |
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jcamins |
quote #107: "<kmkale> This? |
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wahanui |
hmmm... quote #107: "<kmkale> This is a food channel. Sometimes we discuss Koha too ;)" (added by jwagner at 02:49 PM, November 29, 2010) |
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anathemizatu |
Hello everybody. I have a question: I have installed Koha 3.0 with Debian Squeeze, as a .deb package. And can |
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nengard |
anathemizatu you're going to want to get a newer version of Koha - 3.0 isn't supported anymore - 3.6 or 3.4.5 would be best |
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anathemizatu |
Are there .deb packages for the new version or i'll have to install it manually? |
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oleonard |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_Debian_Squeeze |
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oleonard |
That is probably slightly out of date with the release of 3.6.0. |
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* oleonard |
wonders if you get 3.6 if you look for the stable version now |
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* oleonard |
is not a packages guy |
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jcamins |
anathemizatu: there are no packages for 3.0. Check, but I suspect you installed 3.6, which has the version number "3.6.0" |
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jcamins |
(this is good news:) |
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anathemizatu |
I'll try 3.6, thanks. I just wanted to get more information about koha and zebra integration, as i cannot find any suitable information for me. Can you please give me some links to good documentation? |
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jcamins |
manual? |
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wahanui |
well, manual is at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation |
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jcamins |
anathemizatu: ^^ |
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jcamins |
anathemizatu: with the packages Zebra is configured for you. |
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jcamins |
anathemizatu: you're not going to find much about Koha and Zebra integration as such because right now Koha's indexing engine is Zebra. Period. So it's integrated in the same way that MySQL is integrated: it has to be used. |
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jcamins |
(don't use NoZebra) |
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jcamins |
anathemizatu: presumably there is a problem you're trying to solve? |
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anathemizatu |
1. The Koha version that I get is: "Server information Koha version: 3.04.05.000", event though I installed it from debian repozitory on squeeze. |
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anathemizatu |
So I guess that I should first upgrade to some more recent version manually |
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maximep |
3.4.5 is recent. Probably no packages of 3.6 yet |
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jcamins |
anathemizatu: no, that sounds like a good version. |
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jcamins |
That's the version I'm running. |
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anathemizatu |
Ok. I thought that 3.04 is different from 3.4. Sorry |
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jcamins |
I'm probably going to wait until 3.6.1 to switch to the 3.6 branch. |
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oleonard |
The numbering scheme can be confusing |
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oleonard |
3.04.05 = 3.4.5 |
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oleonard |
3.00.04 = 3.04 |
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oleonard |
(someone please correct me if I'm wrong) |
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jcamins |
oleonard: 3.00.04.103 = 3.0.4. (I think the last part is 103... it's something like that, anyway) |
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anathemizatu |
Onw more question: How can I find out when Koha uses mysql and when the information indexed from zebra? |
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jcamins |
anathemizatu: Zebra is used for all searches of records. |
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jcamins |
(but the records are retrieved from MySQL for everything other than the search results page) |
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anathemizatu |
I set up a primitive way to test Zebra connectivity: I don "koha-stop-zebra" and afterwards start the zebra server manually:"zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/sites/libtest2/koha-conf.xml". The idea is that when "NoZebra" is set to "Don't Use", I get the search results as they should be. But I get no messages in Zebra |
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anathemizatu |
When I search with the "noZebra" set to "Use", I get the following messages: "16:27:46-08/11 zebrasrv(1) [log] dict_lookup_grep: (\x01\x0B)(l(i|\xC3\xAD|\xC3\xAC|\xC3\xAE|\xE1\xBB\x8B|\xC4\xA9|\xC4\xAD|\xC4\xAF|\xC7\x90|\xC8\x89|\xC8\x8B)t(e|\xC3\xA9|\xC3\xA8|\xC3\xAA|\xE1\xBA\xBD|\xC4\x95|\xC4\x99|\xC4\x97|\xC4\x9B|\xC8\x85|\xC8\x87)r(a|\xC3\xA1|\xC3\xA0|\xC3\xA3|\xC3\xA5|\xC3\xA2|\xC4\x83|\xC4\x85|\xC8\xA7|\xC7\x8E|\xC8\x81|\xC8\x83)t(u|\xC3\xBA|\xC |
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anathemizatu |
But I get no search results. So that means that Zebra doesn't import the required information from koha? |
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kf |
I am not sure, there might be a misunderstanding about zebra and no zebra |
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kf |
for a first |
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kf |
nozebra is not recommended |
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kf |
it has been removed from the web installer even and it has bugs |
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kf |
you shoudl always use zebra |
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kf |
so don't use nozebra |
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kf |
zebra is used to search the bibliographic data |
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kf |
patrons search uses mysql |
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anathemizatu |
I search in the books catalogue, from OPAC |
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kf |
when you use the opac or the advanced search, keyword searches in koha it will use zebra for searching |
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jcamins |
anathemizatu: in that case, your searches are using Zebra. |
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kf |
yes |
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kf |
but you shoudl really leave he system preference at 'don't use' nozebra |
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jcamins |
anathemizatu: what is it you're trying to do, exactly? |
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anathemizatu |
The thing is that I try to set up a working instance of Koha for a library from Republic of Moldova. And Zebra is crucial to that library, as it has to export data using Z39.50 to other libraries from the country |
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oleonard |
anathemizatu: So you want other libraries to be able to connect to yours using Z39.50? |
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jcamins |
anathemizatu: you just have to enable a public Z39.50 server then. |
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jcamins |
anathemizatu: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]hment.cgi?id=5908 |
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anathemizatu |
zebra already has a Z39.50 server included, as I understand. But it seems like no data is indexed into it |
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jcamins |
In that file, do you see where it says "Uncomment the following entry..."? |
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jcamins |
anathemizatu: how can you tell no data is indexed? |
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jcamins |
I've always had the packages work right off for me, so I suspect this probably has something to do with you trying to use NoZebra. |
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anathemizatu: does searching work when you search in the opac? |
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anathemizatu |
I've already written that when "NoZebra" is set to "Don't Use", the searching works but I get no reaction from zebrasrv. When "NoZebra" is "Use", the searching doesn't work, but zebrasrv reacts to the searches I make |
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oleonard |
What do you mean by "no reaction from zebrasrv?" |
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magnus_afk |
and what do you mean by "the searching works"? |
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kf |
hm |
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kf |
do you have nonlatin characters? |
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kf |
do you get no results with your search or too many/wrong results? |
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anathemizatu |
No results. In future the library might have books in russian, but now we use only latin characters for testing |
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kf |
so search is not working means that you don't get any results? |
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anathemizatu |
with "Don't Use" NoZebra, zebrasrv outputs no messages and the searches return the results |
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anathemizatu |
with "Use" Nozebra, I get no search results |
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magnus_afk |
anathemizatu: that sounds perfect... |
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kf |
yep |
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anathemizatu |
But zebrasrv returns the following message:16:27:46-08/11 zebrasrv(1) [log] dict_lookup_grep: (\x01\x0B)(l(i|\xC3\xAD|\xC3\xAC|\xC3\xAE|\xE1\xBB\x8B|\xC4\xA9|\xC4\xAD|\xC4\xAF|\xC7\x90|\xC8\x89|\xC8\x8B)t(e|\xC3\xA9|\xC3\xA8|\xC3\xAA|\xE1\xBA\xBD|\xC4\x95|\xC4\x99|\xC4\x97|\xC4\x9B|\xC8\x85|\xC8\x87)r(a|\xC3\xA1|\xC3\xA0|\xC3\xA3|\xC3\xA5|\xC3\xA2|\xC4\x83|\xC4\x85|\xC8\xA7|\xC7\x8E|\xC8\x81|\xC8\x83)t(u|\xC3\xBA|\xC3\xB9|\xC3\xBB|\xC5\xA9|\xC5\xAD|\x |
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magnus_afk |
forget about NoZebra, the sooner the better |
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kf |
yes, leave it to don't use and concentrate on making your search work |
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magnus_afk |
NoZebra = Don't use. Period. |
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anathemizatu |
Ok, thanks. I just thought that the following phrase "{Use,Don't use}the Zebra search engine. It is recommended to use Zebra; the option to not use Zebra is deprecated and is not guaranteed to work." refers to using Zebra, not to the parameter "NoZebra" |
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magnus_afk |
yeah, that syspref is really weirdly worded |
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kf |
it's why we try not to generate negative sysprefs now |
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kf |
it gets too confusing |
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anathemizatu |
In 3.6 is the syspref set up as pozitive? |
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magnus_afk |
anathemizatu: you are right. NoZebra should be "Use"! i'm getting it backwards |
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magnus_afk |
NoZebra = [Use] the Zebra search engine. It is recommended to use Zebra; the option to not use Zebra is deprecated and is not guaranteed to work. |
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magnus_afk |
i think it used to be the other way around, hence our confusion... |
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anathemizatu |
So how do I set up after that the search to work? Should it work out of the box? |
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magnus_afk |
yup, it should |
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anathemizatu |
Thanks |
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magnus_afk |
but does it? |
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anathemizatu |
It does not |
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magnus_afk |
you get no results when you search? |
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anathemizatu |
Yes |
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magnus_afk |
both in the opac and in the staff client? |
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anathemizatu |
In opac, and in the staff client when searching in the catalogue |
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anathemizatu |
That is why I need more information, in order to properly troubleshoot the way it is integrated with Koha/Mysql |
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magnus_afk |
hm, first thing i'd try is to rebuild the zebra index |
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wizzyrea |
searching faq? |
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wahanui |
searching faq is at http://koha-community.org/docu[…]on/faq/searching/ |
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magnus_afk |
for the packages that would be koha-rebuild-zebra -f instancename |
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wizzyrea |
ooh we should add that to the faq |
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anathemizatu |
Thanks. I was doing it without "-f" |
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magnus_afk |
ah, the -f makes sure all the records are indexed |
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anathemizatu |
Now I get some errors, zebra_lock_create fail fname=/var/lock/koha/libtest2/biblios/norm..LCK [Permission denied] |
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anathemizatu |
I'll be working on the permissions |
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anathemizatu |
Goodbye everybody, thank you very much for your help |
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magnus_afk |
next quesstion would have been: did you run that as sudo? |
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oleonard |
My next question would have been "What have I got in my pocket?" |
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oleonard: a good choice, especially when your life is on the line. |
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wizzyrea |
whatever it is I hope you're still happy to see me. |
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kids |
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kf |
hm? |
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oleonard |
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmw[…]uJustHappyToSeeMe |
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jcamins_away |
oleonard: don't do it! Don't trap kf in tvtropes! |
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* oleonard |
got dragged into "Gaussian Girl" but managed to break free |
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* wizzyrea |
dares not click on that link |
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kf |
ok, I will not click |
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* oleonard |
remembers when he first heard that joke when he was a kid... thought it was so original at the time, and hilarious |
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kf |
outlook-- |
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has been happily outlook-free for several years now...wouldn't want to go back! |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7191] C4::Circulation exports non-existant subroutine GetBorrowerIssues <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7191> |
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reiveune |
bye |
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* oleonard |
discovers the html_break filter in T:T: http://template-toolkit.org/do[…]k_html_para_break |
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kf |
there are lots of cool filters .) |
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oleonard |
However, the |html filter doesn't seem to be working :( |
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kf |
I used one for the messaging tab to keep the line breaks :) |
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kf |
oleonard: what do you want to do? |
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oleonard |
I would expect [% title |html %] to output a title with ampersands escaped as & |
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oleonard |
It doesn't. |
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kf |
:( |
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oleonard |
Oh wait, my mistake. |
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oleonard |
the & was in a subtitle |
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oleonard |
False alarm. |
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kf |
phew |
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kf |
totally dark outside :( |
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kf |
time to leave |
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kf |
bye all |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7194] OPAC detail and recent comments pages require corrections for XHTML validity <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7194> |
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oleonard |
Take that you slackers. |
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libsysguy |
is the function build_issue_data in moremember.pl redefined for anybody else? |
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cait |
? |
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libsysguy |
i keep getting an error message in the logs that it is redefined |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
not even sure what it does :) |
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libsysguy |
I think it insterts into issues |
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oleonard |
A blast from the past: http://www.screencast.com/t/ma41rAf9yGaO |
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* wizzyrea |
startles |
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wizzyrea |
where did you find that? |
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wizzyrea |
you know there are some things I like about that lol |
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cait |
:) |
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* wizzyrea |
ponders an intranet coloring spree |
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wizzyrea |
"I want BLUE, and GREEN, and YELLOW" |
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wizzyrea |
^.^ just kidding |
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wizzyrea |
that's not accessible :P |
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oleonard |
I found it on my computer |
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wizzyrea |
I like the brown tho |
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oleonard |
That was the template I designed for my library, color-coordinated with our public site of the time. |
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wizzyrea |
aww |
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oleonard |
Koha 2.something |
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wizzyrea |
we should make a screenshot gallery on the wiki |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
to preserve that |
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oleonard |
Maybe even 1.something... |
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cait |
+1 |
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cait |
:) |
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Oak |
me go now. good night. |
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* chris_n |
threatens to go "chrome-al" on firefox |
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rangi |
morning |
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chris_n |
heya rangi |
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chris_n |
got your message about 3.6.x; I'll try just as soon as I can break loose of a few moments |
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cait |
morning :) |
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* oleonard |
wonders how Firefox could crash so catastrophically that it would need to be reinstalled |
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oleonard |
re: Bug 7192 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7192 critical, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , can't print in FF without tools permission |
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nengard |
oleonard, i have no clue |
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nengard |
but when it tried to reoopen it it took 30 min to get google up |
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nengard |
and then when i clicked to open a new tab it wouldn't open because it timed out again |
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nengard |
everytime i restarted with a new session it did the same thing |
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nengard |
i restarted my computer and had the same issues |
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nengard |
the only way i could get the darn thing to start up again was to reinstall |
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nengard |
maybe it was a plugin i had or something |
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nengard |
but i needed to do my job and couldn't |
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* chris_n |
is amazed at nothing firefox can do badly |
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chris_n |
at least when it involves js |
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rangi |
and if you think thats bad, try ie 8 |
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jcamins_away |
rangi: that's cheating. |
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chris_n |
hence my threat to go to google chrome |
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chris_n |
ie stinks, period |
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rangi |
I use chromium not chrome |
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rangi |
and firefox, interchangably |
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chris_n |
for example: right now ff's plug-in container has 64%+ of one of my cpu's |
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oleonard |
nengard: The only difference I see in the record you posted the screenshot of and the record I tested with is the patron image |
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chris_n |
mind boggling |
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oleonard |
But re-testing with a patron image added doesn't make FF go crashy |
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nengard |
okay, i know it happened |
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nengard |
and wished i had recorded my actions before the major crash |
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nengard |
but another library tried it on all those OSes I listed |
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nengard |
and it crashes for them everytime |
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oleonard |
Of course, we just need to find out what the trigger was |
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nengard |
did you give the patron the exact same permissions I listed? |
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oleonard |
Yes |
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nengard |
hmmm |
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chris_n |
eekkk! killing it just caused it to respawn and consume 94%+ |
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jcamins_away |
chris_n: I think I may identified the problem here. In what kind of OS does kill -9 cause something to restart? |
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oleonard |
nengard: I have a report on my intranet that crashes Firefox every time I try to print it, so I know it's possible. |
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chris_n |
lol |
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nengard |
hmmmm |
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nengard |
and i did switch to chrome for a few months but i didn't like it |
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nengard |
when FF7 came out and it was faster than other FFs I switched back |
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rangi |
jcamins_away: same pid, or is something respawning it? |
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jcamins_away |
rangi: chris_n is the one with the problem. |
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jcamins_away |
I was just commenting on the fact that kill -9 should kill -9 things. |
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rangi |
it may well do |
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rangi |
but something else might be restarting it |
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rangi |
ive seen that plenty |
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chris_n |
I think the main ff process respawns it |
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rangi |
yeah |
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chris_n |
I'm guessing there is a memory leak in the container process somewhere |
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chris_n |
this happens after I open a zillion tabs for 2 zillion hours |
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* chris_n |
loves hyperbole |
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chris_n |
may tabs with heavy js as well |
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rangi |
https://github.com/chrisforbes/odr |
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rangi |
yay! |
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rangi |
chris forbes works down on level 2 |
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rangi |
https://twitter.com/#!/ijw_chr[…]33773279738593280 |
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wizzyrea |
HA! |
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wizzyrea |
nice |
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wizzyrea |
making_something_to_increase_ability_to_be_lazy++ |
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rangi |
well it means when someone sends me an odt by email, mutt can just spawn that |
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wizzyrea |
yea, exactly! |
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rangi |
which is a total win wwhen you read url mail over ssh |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
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rhcl |
libsysguy |
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wahanui |
libsysguy is, like, Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck |
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libsysguy |
hey rhcl |
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wizzyrea |
oleonard reminds me via blog post that i was going to look at "my recent comments" |
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libsysguy |
so I have a problem guys |
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libsysguy |
and I think it might be a big one |
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nengard |
uh oh |
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libsysguy |
for some reason checkin/checkouts are working randomly |
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libsysguy |
i am wondering if there is a way to check the consistency of the issues table |
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wizzyrea |
:O |
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rangi |
http://www.flickr.com/photos/r[…]93/in/photostream recent comments with libravatar |
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wizzyrea |
naw, not just "recent comments" |
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wizzyrea |
but "my recent comments" |
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wizzyrea |
just ime. |
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libsysguy |
I did a big delete of duplicate biblios a week or two ago from when the matching rules were borken |
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wizzyrea |
me |
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rangi |
randomly in what way? |
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libsysguy |
well…books that are "checked out" are on the shelf |
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libsysguy |
and sometimes items that show checked in are most definitely checked out |
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oleonard |
It's always all about you wizzyrea |
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wizzyrea |
it is, it so is. |
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rangi |
but they are marked out in issues? |
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wizzyrea |
wait, what? |
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wahanui |
it has been said that wait, is it only in items? |
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libsysguy |
yeah they are marked out |
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rangi |
or in the items table only |
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libsysguy |
i am pretty sure its in issues |
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rangi |
you will want to check that |
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libsysguy |
my overdues script is grabbing them |
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libsysguy |
and im 99% sure the overdue function grabs from issues |
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rangi |
well if its out in issues |
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rangi |
then koha thinks its out |
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libsysguy |
right |
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rangi |
theres no way for it to know otherwise |
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libsysguy |
right |
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wizzyrea |
i have seen stuff kinda like that, but it's almost always human error |
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wizzyrea |
or not watching the screen |
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libsysguy |
i am wondering if it is too…but they have the print slips to back it up |
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libsysguy |
well on the ones that are showing in that are out |
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rangi |
can you replicate, return an item and not have it be returned |
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rangi |
or issue one, and not have it put a row in the issues table |
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libsysguy |
that is probably my next step |
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wizzyrea |
going too fast is another culprit |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
have we ruled out indexing problems? |
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rangi |
yes |
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cait |
ok |
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rangi |
if its overdues cait |
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rangi |
id try to issue one of the ones they say has been issued |
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cait |
I think I didn't get part of the problem description |
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rangi |
and see what happens |
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libsysguy |
anybody have a duplicated function "build_issue_data" in moremember.pl |
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wizzyrea |
libsysguy: are these hourly issues? |
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libsysguy |
not sure |
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libsysguy |
if they are i'd like to find out |
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cait |
hmm |
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rangi |
no |
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cait |
you could do some checks perhaps |
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rangi |
its only there once for me |
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libsysguy |
i keep seeing that in the log |
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libsysguy |
hmm |
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cait |
like compare the items with onloan = a date to the entries in issues |
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libsysguy |
i definitly have 2 build issue data functions |
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rangi |
yeah you shouldnt |
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libsysguy |
and that seems like a pretty likely problem |
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rangi |
could be |
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wizzyrea |
merge issue possibly? |
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wizzyrea |
are they different? |
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libsysguy |
hmm ok I'll investigate it |
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rangi |
but moremember.pl doesnt do the circ |
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libsysguy |
yeah maybe |
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libsysguy |
oh? |
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rangi |
yeah it doesnt |
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libsysguy |
well poop |
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rangi |
its circ/circulation.pl |
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rangi |
moremember.pl just displays stuff |
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rangi |
try to replicate first |
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libsysguy |
ok will do |
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rangi |
or you will goose chase yourself to death |
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wizzyrea |
^^ |
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libsysguy |
I'm in my phys2 lab atm |
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libsysguy |
but ill check it tonight |
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wizzyrea |
makes you tired and the goose likes it. |
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oleonard |
I've met a few geese and they're far more likely to chase you. |
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libsysguy |
haha indeed |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
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wizzyrea |
(they still like it) |
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* magnuse |
ponders turning metadata from doaj.org into marc records for easy importing into koha http://www.doaj.org/doaj?func=[…]empl=faq#metadata |
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rangi |
hmmm |
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nengard |
ooo |
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rangi |
lemme see what formats its in |
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rangi |
dublin core |
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magnuse |
csv |
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magnuse |
and oai_dc |
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rangi |
easy peasy then |
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magnuse |
:-) |
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rangi |
you can use eythians csv to marc script |
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magnuse |
ah yes, of course |
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rangi |
and once you do it |
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magnuse |
it might also be interesting to split it up based on subject or language, perhaps |
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rangi |
then you just follow the rss |
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rangi |
of journals added in the last 7 days |
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rangi |
and do updates |
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rangi |
:) |
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magnuse |
yay, sounds like a project - then it's just a question of finding the time ;-) |
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rangi |
*nod* |
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magnuse |
ok, i'm lazy where does eythian's script live again? |
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rangi |
2 secs |
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rangi |
http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?[…]ads/import_branch |
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rangi |
in import/csv |
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rangi |
take a look at example.sh |
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magnuse |
ah, thanks a tonne |
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magnuse |
oh my, there's a lot of effort put into that csvtomarc.p script ;-) |
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magnuse |
eythian++ |
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rangi |
yes, yes there is |
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cait |
which brings us to the question: when will he be back? :) |
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rangi |
today |
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rangi |
he was in nz yesterday |
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cait |
ohoh |
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wizzyrea |
what table are the outgoing email messages kept in again? |
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* wizzyrea |
consulted the schema, it didn't have a comment for that one :/ |
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oleonard |
schema? |
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wahanui |
schema is tracked in git. |
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oleonard |
:P |
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wizzyrea |
schema.koha-community.org |
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wizzyrea |
http://schema.koha-community.org |
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wizzyrea |
schema is also found at http://schema.koha-community.org |
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wahanui |
okay, wizzyrea. |
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oleonard |
message_queue I think |
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rangi |
wizzyrea: you can help |
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rangi |
there are comments |
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wizzyrea |
i kno! |
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rangi |
waiting to be signed off |
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wizzyrea |
der, that should have been obvious eh |
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rangi |
once they are in master i can update the schema :) |
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wizzyrea |
ok ok :) |
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rangi |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
slavedriver. <3 |
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rangi |
thats me :) |
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* wizzyrea |
teases |
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rangi |
ppl call it mentoring |
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* oleonard |
heads off to vote |
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rangi |
i call it making ppl do the stuff i dont want to |
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wizzyrea |
lulz |
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magnuse |
tee hee |
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wizzyrea |
oh my look at all of those patches |
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wizzyrea |
worth it to apply them all then squash or better to do them one by one? |
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cait1 |
patches? |
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wahanui |
patches are on the bug |
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wizzyrea |
the ones for bug 6716 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6716 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , Database Documentation |
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rangi |
wizzyrea: you need to test it still works |
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rangi |
you could do them all |
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rangi |
and if mysql -u user -p database < kohastruture.sql still works fine |
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rangi |
squash it |
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rangi |
if not, find the broken one |
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rangi |
or you could do one by one .. i suspect its not likely to break |
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rangi |
so doing them all is probably ok |
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wizzyrea |
right |
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nengard |
i did them one by one cause the RM wanted it that way :) hehe |
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nengard |
many of them were pushed already though -don't know if they were marked that way |
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rangi |
yes i removed all that were pushed |
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wizzyrea |
hmm |
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rangi |
but the date they were added |
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rangi |
vs the date i said pushed |
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rangi |
will tell ya |
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rangi |
look its schuster !! |
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rangi |
ltns |
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schuster |
Has anyone had experience developing QR codes in Koha yet? Just curious what others are thinking about using. |
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schuster |
Hey... was thinking of everyone at KohaCon... Can't wait to view presentations given. |
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rangi |
we used qr codes |
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rangi |
and koha |
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rangi |
to do nametags for kohacon10 |
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schuster |
:) |
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rangi |
you can make the qr code just resolve to a url since koha has persitent url's |
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schuster |
I'm thinking about putting QR codes on the Details page so a person could scan it and have the call number mobile. |
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rangi |
yup |
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rangi |
that'd work |
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rangi |
you could totally do that by putting the image url in 856u |
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schuster |
Therefore, I was wondering if there were any packages already being used before I go off and find my own Debian QR library to use. |
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rangi |
i forget what we used |
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schuster |
I'm thinking of a perl program that dynamically would build them. |
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schuster |
QR code that is. |
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schuster |
Then putting that code on the right side below the search other XXXX for this title. |
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schuster |
I generate QR codes using lots of different tools, but this would be something "native" to Koha and PERL. |
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wizzyrea |
there's a library for it |
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wizzyrea |
sec |
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schuster |
I've found this one HTML::QRCode and Text::QRCode and a Perl program that uses them... |
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wizzyrea |
oh well never mind then. |
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schuster |
But they are not Dependancies already within Koha... |
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schuster |
I have another question but it has to wait until tomorrow.. Dealing with Debian upgrades! |
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cait1 |
schuster: I don't think we have qr codes in koha yet - but sounds like a nice addition :) |
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schuster |
Thanks - from what I have been talking about this afternoon with another tech person in the district I have bigger problems... Debian upgrades! I'll be back tomorrow! |
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schuster |
see you all tomorrow! |
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eythian |
hi all |
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trea |
o/ |
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wizzyrea |
eythian! |
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wahanui |
eythian is in NZ. ;) or a good influence |
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wizzyrea |
hi! |
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eythian |
hello |
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wahanui |
what's up, eythian |
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magnuse |
kia ora eythian |
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eythian |
hi magnuse |
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* magnuse |
is in awe of csvtomarc.pl |
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eythian |
horrified awe? |
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magnuse |
(hm, that didn't look right, but you know what i mean :-) |
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magnuse |
not at all! |
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eythian |
heh |
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eythian |
it has grown from a simple script to a dynamically programmed monstrosity a bit :) |
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magnuse |
now if i could only figure out how to combine two columns with some text between them... |
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magnuse |
startyear + " - " + endyear |
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magnuse |
...sort of thing |
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magnuse |
nah, i wouldn't call it a monstrosity - it's impressive! |
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eythian |
hmm, that might be possible, I can't remember |
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eythian |
All the functions in there are things I've added as I've found I needed them, so it's possible I've never needed to do that. |
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magnuse |
never mind, i'll bang my head on it a bit more :-) |
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magnuse |
i think "combine" is supposed to do it |
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* wizzyrea |
was admiring the documentation in that script |
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magnuse |
but the syntax get somewhat complicated there ;-) |
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wizzyrea |
oh lord I was doing something... sheesh |
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eythian |
wizzyrea: I have to document it, or I forget how to make it do things :) |
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wizzyrea |
*nod* |
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wizzyrea |
but you don't have to document it in ways that others understand, see |
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wizzyrea |
and you make it so others can understand |
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wizzyrea |
that is admirable. |
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eythian |
magnuse: yep, combine will do that |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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eythian |
also, usually I write the documentation while the other half of my brain is working out how I'm going to actually implement it. |
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magnuse |
what she said |
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eythian |
magnuse: although, it's possible that combine doesn't have the ability to not take a substring, because I've never needed that :) |
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eythian |
it'd be easy to add though |
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magnuse |
ah, that could be, perhaps |
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eythian |
you could add an arg for it right under the comment that says: |
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eythian |
# Here's the deal: no adding more stuff here until the copy-pasta bits |
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eythian |
# are refactored out. |
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eythian |
:) |
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eythian |
(of course, you'd have to refactor it, or you're violating the comment ;) |
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magnuse |
ooh, clever trick! ;-) |
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eythian |
it was once a 100 line script. It's now a 2,100 line script. |
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eythian |
also, the most current version is in the rbnz_import branch |
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eythian |
(because that's what I'm currently working on - I merge it back into import_branch when I'm done) |
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magnuse |
ah hah! |
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magnuse |
is that something you'd ever submit for inclusion in koha? seems like something others might find useful... |
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rangi |
i think something that could live at contribs.koha-community.org |
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rangi |
when we get that back up |
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rangi |
in the migration tools area |
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eythian |
yeah, I plan to merge it into druthb's migration toolbox at some stage, too. |
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rangi |
cos its not relaly koha specific |
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magnuse |
true |
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rangi |
i think it only uses a couple of C4 modules eh? |
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wizzyrea |
speaking of contribs... where should that live? |
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rangi |
whereever someone is volunteering to host it ;) |
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wizzyrea |
keke |
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wizzyrea |
fair enough. |
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magnuse |
hm, actually it needs both koha-config.xml and the C4 directory |
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rangi |
yep, for the mappings |
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magnuse |
yep |
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eythian |
yeah, just enough to look up mappings so you can give it column names and it works out the marc |
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magnuse |
so not quite independent from koha... |
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eythian |
I've been thinking of making that optional |
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rangi |
yep, but could be |
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rangi |
yeah |
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eythian |
I just haven't got around to it |
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magnuse |
hehe |
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rangi |
mostly it exists so we dont have to use the proprietary MarcEdit |
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rangi |
:) |
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rangi |
so it might help others avoid that too |
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rangi |
which is no bad thing |
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eythian |
also, makes for good reproducability of migration processes |
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eythian |
(as it's intended to be used by scripts) |
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rangi |
*nod* |
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magnuse |
doaj in koha: http://doaj.priv.bibkat.no/cgi[…]h.pl?q=su:History - some encoding messup, though... |
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rangi |
rock on |
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rangi |
magnuse++ |
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cait1 |
magnuse++ :) |
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cait1 |
and wb eythian :) |
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magnuse |
eythian++ |
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eythian |
hi cait1 |
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magnuse |
input, output and (meta-)script is here: http://div.libriotech.no/doaj2koha/ |
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magnuse |
that encoding thing will have to wait for another day |
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rangi |
noice! |
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magnuse |
good night, #koha! |
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eythian |
bye magnuse! |
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rangi |
is it in git? |
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* rangi |
might do you a patch :) |
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magnuse |
rangi: https://gist.github.com/1349518 |
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magnuse |
good night! |
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rangi |
cool :) |
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rangi |
night |
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JoeLib001 |
Hello, I am trying to find the best way to enter a subscription that is twice monthly in the serials module. The closest thing is a twice a week option. Is there a way to setup a subscription to be twice monthly? |
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eythian |
magnus_away: the latest version of my script flags the MARC records as UTF8, that might solve your encoding problem |
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wizzyrea |
wb mfann |
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mfann |
what? |
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wizzyrea |
welcome back :P |
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rangi |
JoeLib001: what version of koha? |
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mfann |
was i gone? |
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wizzyrea |
brieflty |
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JoeLib001 |
let me check |
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mfann |
hmmm |
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wizzyrea |
nm lol. |
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wizzyrea |
how about this: hi, nice to see you here. |
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mfann |
thanks |
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rangi |
in 3.6.0 there is a 1 every 2 weeks |
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rangi |
which is pretty close |
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JoeLib001 |
v. 3.04.05.00 |
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rangi |
should be there too |
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rangi |
1/2 weeks |
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rangi |
it goes |
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JoeLib001 |
Yeah... |
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rangi |
1 a week |
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rangi |
1 every 2 weeks |
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rangi |
not 2 a week :) |
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JoeLib001 |
I saw that, I was just wondering, if there was some way to get a 1 every month. |
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JoeLib001 |
I mean 2 every month. |
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wizzyrea |
1 every 2 weeks is as close as you'll get |
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rangi |
umm wouldnt that be one every 2 weeks? |
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JoeLib001 |
'bah...., this periodicals stuff is crazy. hehe. :-) |
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rangi |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
:D |
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eythian |
http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/3650552.html <-- "librarygate" |
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JoeLib001 |
Does that reset every month or will it make it so that the sixth week it will expect a magazine even though it is the first of the month? |
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wizzyrea |
O.O |
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rangi |
i wont reset every month |
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rangi |
it even |
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eythian |
wizzyrea: twice a month is not quite the same as every 2 weeks |
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rangi |
thats why she said as close as you will get |
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JoeLib001 |
That's what I thought. hehe. |
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eythian |
oh, yeah |
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JoeLib001 |
Ah well. |
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rangi |
basically 2 a month is without periodicity |
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JoeLib001 |
Awesome. |
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rangi |
or irregular |
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rangi |
because it will be |
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JoeLib001 |
Or what's the opposite of that word? Hehehe. |
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wizzyrea |
eythian: pwnt |
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JoeLib001 |
Unawesome? |
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JoeLib001 |
hehe. |
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rangi |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
but I still luv u ;) |
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JoeLib001 |
Can't always have your cake and eat it too I guess. |
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wizzyrea |
but you can always hire a bunny to climb out of it, |
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wizzyrea |
SUPRISE! |
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JoeLib001 |
Hehe. |
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eythian |
http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/[…]i/File:Rabbit.JPG <-- one like this? |
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wizzyrea |
HAHA |
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wizzyrea |
that is awesome. |
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wizzyrea |
who thought that was a good idea. |
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wizzyrea |
poor kid. |
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JoeLib001 |
Consensus would be that it would be an irregular periodical then. Now I get to go down the rabbit hole. Anyone have a blue pill so I can go back home? |
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JoeLib001 |
Hehe. |
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wizzyrea |
oh dear. |
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rangi |
JoeLib001: i cant think how to programme it in a general way |
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rangi |
does it always come on the same date(s) every month? |
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JoeLib001 |
Not necessarily. :-) |
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rangi |
yeah |
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rangi |
i think without periodicity then im afraid |
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JoeLib001 |
Thanks for the help. :-) |
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cait1 |
night #koha |
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eythian |
bye cait1 |
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