IRC log for #koha, 2011-11-07

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01:14 druthb dpavlin, you're up early!
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01:36 rangi druthb:  idle     : 0 days 9 hours 59 mins 51 secs  :-) not so much up
01:38 druthb heh.  he left hisself logged in then.  Hi, rangi and BobB and trea!
01:38 rangi heya druthb
01:38 trea hiya
01:38 rangi im betting he runs screen like me :)
01:38 rangi or bip
01:38 rangi heya trea
01:39 trea hi rangi
01:42 druthb me figures out what she's gonna wear the next two days, and for the plane ride home...
01:47 jcamins_away Woohoo! Someone else "old fashioned"!
01:47 * jcamins_away was told that it was old-fashioned to run irssi in screen.
01:48 rangi heh
01:48 rangi i run irssi in screen on my workstation at work
01:49 rangi but i also run bip
01:49 * jcamins_away just runs irssi in screen.
01:49 * druthb is usually here when she's here, and not when she's not.
01:50 rangi i used to, but bip makes it easier to connect without having to vpn in ... which is easier to do on the phone
01:50 * jcamins_away just uses connectbot.
01:51 rangi yeah you cant ssh to my workstation outside of the internal network
01:51 rangi so that wont work ;)
01:51 jcamins_away Ah, yeah, that'd be a problem.
01:51 rangi and i could spend years trying to get openvpn ported to android ... but lif'es too short :)
01:52 rangi also i can't use apostrophes right
01:52 rangi :)
01:53 jcamins_away Totally over-rated.
01:55 rangi heh
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02:06 Small I need help with zebra
02:06 Small I think i just need to start it, but i dont know how to
02:11 Small anybody
02:12 Small wahanui: how to start zebra
02:12 wahanui Small: i'm not following you...
02:12 Small hmm
02:14 Small So nobody knows how to start the zebrasrv?
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02:16 Small I need help with zebra
02:16 Small Can you help?
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02:18 Small ARGGG
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02:27 Small CAN SOMEONE HELP ME!!!!!
02:27 Small i have looked on wiki ad theres nothing there
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02:37 rangi[…]cebb857de57f#l299  in the INSTALL.ubuntu file that comes with Koha, there is INSTALL.debian and many others, i suggest you read at least one of them
02:37 Small ok
02:42 Small well, i read the things on zebra
02:42 Small but when i run the rebuild_zebra script, it is not there
02:43 rangi not where?
02:43 wahanui not are they just not ratbags
02:43 Small they are not in the folder
02:43 Small it says that the files does not exist
02:43 rangi what folder
02:43 rangi what exactly are you typing?
02:43 Small $ sudo -u ${KOHA_USER} misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra -z -b -a
02:44 rangi in which directory?
02:44 rangi and that wont work
02:44 Small well, i filled in KOHA_USER
02:44 rangi you have to change ${KOHA_USER} to be the actual koha user
02:44 Small i did
02:44 Small but what folder do i have to run it from?
02:44 rangi right so you must be in the wrong directory
02:44 Small but what folder do i have to run it from?
02:45 rangi what directory do you mean?
02:45 Small well, where do i run that script
02:45 Small in the home folder? in system root?
02:45 rangi did you chose standard or dev install ?
02:46 Small standard
02:46 rangi then probably /usr/share/koha
02:46 rangi wherever your koha installed is where you need to run it
02:46 Small ok
02:46 Small hold on
02:47 Small misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra: command not found
02:47 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6210] Choose framework on Merge <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6210>
02:48 rangi does whatever directory you are in have a misc dir in it? if not, you aren't in the right place
02:48 Small yes it does
02:49 rangi try with .pl on the end
02:49 Small ok
02:49 Small misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.PL: command not found
02:51 rangi .pl
02:51 rangi not .PL
02:51 Small ok
02:51 Small misc/migration_tools/ command not found
02:52 Small :(
02:52 rangi ls -l misc/migration_tools/
02:52 Small ok
02:53 Small ls: cannot access misc/migration_tools/: No such file or directory
02:53 Small :(
02:53 rangi ls -l misc
02:53 Small koha-install-log           translator
02:54 Small total 8
02:54 rangi and you are utterly sure you did a standard install?
02:54 Small im pretty sure
02:54 Small what would a non-standard install do?
02:55 Small everything works
02:55 Small exept all my searches are broken
02:55 rangi ls -l bin/
02:55 Small im going to join on the computer running the scripts
02:55 Small this one has alot
02:55 Small just a sec
02:57 Small arg
02:57 Small i have a missing package, for java, and it errors downloading offline
02:57 Small is there a specific file your looking for?
02:57 rangi in the dir, that you were just in
02:57 rangi with the misc dir
02:58 rangi ls bin/migration_tools
02:58 Small there is that
02:59 Small that is there
02:59 Small are you looking for a file in that?
02:59 rangi is in there?
03:00 Small its not letting me go in it
03:00 Small says file directory not found, and i spelled it right\
03:02 Small oh
03:02 Small oops
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03:04 Small there is no migration tools in the /bin directory
03:04 rangi not /bin
03:04 Small what?
03:04 rangi i never said /bin
03:05 Small oh, what did you say?
03:05 rangi bin/
03:05 Small sorry, im thinking about 2 things at same time
03:05 rangi in the directory you were in before
03:05 Small so, usr/share/koha
03:05 rangi if that is where you were before then yes
03:05 Small ok
03:06 Small now i am in it
03:06 Small what were you looking for?
03:06 rangi i wasnt
03:06 rangi you were
03:06 * rangi is trying to work
03:06 Small same thing :p what were "we" looking for?
03:06 rangi look in bin/migration_tools/
03:06 rangi see if is in there
03:06 Small i am there
03:06 rangi run it if it is
03:06 Small it is there
03:06 * rangi goes back to what he is being paid to do now
03:07 Small it says that the file / directory is not there
03:08 Small oh
03:08 Small oops
03:08 Small nevermind
03:08 Small it says use -b or - a to run
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03:11 Small th script fails
03:11 Small the script fails
03:11 Small zebra_lock_create fail
03:12 Small aborted on line 6 of rebuild_zebra.PL
03:13 Small i'll comeback later
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03:14 rangi maybe read
03:14 rangi then come back
03:15 rangi sheesh
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03:33 Amit_Gupta heya chris
03:33 Amit_Gupta Good morning koha
03:35 rangi hi Amit_Gupta
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03:44 * Oak waves
03:44 Amit_Gupta heya Oak
03:44 rangi hi Oak
03:44 Oak heya Amit_Gupta :)
03:44 Oak hello rangi :-)
03:45 Oak kia ora #koha
03:45 Amit_Gupta Oak : finally return from kohacon
03:45 Oak uh oh. all good things...
03:46 Oak :)
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04:59 kmkale hi Amit_Gupta
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05:29 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6504] no way to enter shipping price in acq <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6504>
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05:52 cait morning #koha
05:52 Amit_Gupta heya cait
05:52 cait hi Amit_Gupta
05:52 cait :)
06:01 Amit_Gupta :D
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06:11 BobB hi mumbaikers
06:12 BobB Is anyone still in Thane?
06:12 * BobB is in Sydney with dreadful jet lag  :(
06:13 BobB kmkale about?
06:17 * dpavlin plans to make last Thane tour before leaving tonigh (after sleep without alaram clock - precious)
06:19 BobB Travel well.
06:27 cait save travels :)
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06:37 Oak hello cait :)
06:37 cait hi Oak :)
06:37 Oak kia ora #koha
06:47 * Oak goes back to True Believer
06:47 cait :)
07:03 Amit_Gupta heya BobB
07:03 Amit_Gupta heya dpavlin
07:04 BobB Hi Amit Gupta
07:04 Amit_Gupta BobB: you are travelling
07:05 BobB No we are home.  We left Mumbai on Sunday morning and arrived very early in Sydney this morning.
07:05 BobB @wunder Sydney New South Wales
07:05 huginn BobB: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 21.0�C (5:30 PM EST on November 07, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
07:06 Amit_Gupta aah!
07:06 cait @wunder Konstanz
07:06 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 8.5�C (8:00 AM CET on November 07, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Windchill: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1013.8 hPa (Rising).
07:08 BobB cait I will swap you.  High humidity with low temperature is easier to take.  :)
07:08 cait I think I would make the deal
07:08 cait we get more days like this, but not many more warm days now
07:21 magnus_afk is now known as magnuse
07:21 magnuse namaskar #koha
07:22 magnuse @wunder boo
07:22 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 10.0�C (7:50 AM CET on November 07, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady).
07:22 BobB hi magnuse
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07:25 magnuse hiya BobB
07:25 alex_a hi #koha
07:25 Amit_Gupta heya magnuse
07:26 magnuse hiya alex_a and Amit_Gupta
07:27 cait morning magnuse
07:28 magnuse morgen cait
07:31 magnuse only ~8 months 'til kohacon12!
07:36 Amit_Gupta heya alex_a
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07:42 cait magnuse: always the optimist :)
07:43 magnuse yay
07:44 BobB hey slef - are you about?
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07:54 clrh hello
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08:09 magnuse bonjour clrh et reiveune
08:11 reiveune hello magnus and everybody
08:11 reiveune :)
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08:19 magnuse hiya kf and hdl
08:19 kf hi #koha :)
08:19 hdl hi all
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08:29 Amit_Gupta heya hdl
08:38 hdl hi Amit_Gupta
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09:33 Amit_Gupta heya anadalogoy
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10:40 slef hi all
10:41 kf1 hi slef :)
10:41 slef nailing down kohacon12 at last
10:41 kf1 yay
10:41 kf1 was wondering if I can ask... or better not to
10:41 * kf1 is practically counting the days... to june
10:41 slef The big decision is whether to put the conference Fr/Sa/Su or Tu/We/Th :-/
10:42 slef We just can't do Mo/Tu/We.
10:42 kf1 hmm
10:42 kf1 I thik perhaps the latter? for the hackfet people will not mind staying for the weekend
10:42 kf1 perhaps a bit harder for the conf
10:43 slef That's what I'm thinking. I'm just checking to see what we'd clash with.
10:44 kf1 oh, SWIB is listed there
10:44 slef It would overlap with THATCamp. Anyone know what that is?
10:44 kf1 no idea
10:45 kf1 for tu/we/th it would not overlap I think?
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10:45 slef kf1: depends how accurate their dates are :)
10:45 kf1 ah, looking at the wrong year...
10:46 slef kf1: I've done that at least once while planning!
10:46 kf1 now it maeks sense
10:46 kf1 is now known as kf
10:47 kf not sure we have to worry about THATcamp
10:47 kf and it will happen like always
10:47 kf once you have the dates set... someone else chooses to have an event on those dates
10:47 slef happen like always = we clash with stuff?
10:47 kf you can't prevent that
10:47 kf it's murphy's law or something
10:48 slef yeah, as soon as we have it public, we'll announce dates as widely as we can and call for sponsorships
10:48 slef as soon as we have it fixed, even
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11:04 kf cool :)
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11:56 jcamins_away Yay! KohaCon12 in Edinburgh!
11:58 kf yay :)
11:58 kf morning jared
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12:01 jcamins_away is now known as jcamins
12:01 jcamins Morning.
12:01 jcamins Back to work?
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12:19 NateC Morning Everyone
12:19 NateC Morning!
12:19 NateC (that second one was in the wrong window :)
12:20 jcamins NateC: congratulations!
12:20 NateC Thanks jcamins
12:21 NateC but what for :)?
12:21 kf morning NateC :)
12:21 NateC Hi kf!
12:21 jcamins NateC: didn't you get married or something?
12:21 jcamins :P
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12:22 NateC been out for awhile, we finally got to take our honeymoon
12:22 NateC we got married in September
12:22 NateC but thanks!! :D
12:22 jcamins Yeah, but I don't recall speaking to you since then. I've hardly been around at normal times.
12:22 kf where have you been to?
12:22 NateC Antigua
12:22 NateC it was niiice
12:23 hdl congrats NateC
12:23 NateC but we had to come back to SNOW!!!!
12:23 NateC thanks hdl
12:23 kf :)
12:23 * hdl thought it had been done way before.
12:24 NateC nope when I saw you in NZ I was getting ready to propose
12:24 NateC wow its been a year since then!
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12:32 jcamins NateC: I've been married for over a year. Goodness how time flies!
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12:39 * eythian is now waiting in Singapore for the long part of the trip home.
12:40 jcamins eythian: I've heard that Singapore airport is pretty great. Is that true?
12:41 eythian It is. If you have to spend time in transit, this is the place to do it.
12:41 eythian Has a movie theatre, swimming poll, etc.
12:41 eythian If you're here for several hours, you can do a tour of Singapore too
12:43 kf eythian: sounds pretty nice
12:43 kf eythian: I bet they have showers too
12:43 eythian They do.
12:44 eythian But, this time I'm only here for an hour or so, so it was straight to the next gate.
12:44 kf next time I fly to nz - singapore hehe
12:44 kf ah ok
12:44 kf save travels :)
12:47 eythian Also, Singapore airlines is also pretty great
12:47 * eythian will be boarding soon, cya later
12:48 kf bye :)
12:48 * magnuse waves
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13:13 magnuse ooh, PerlCritic on FLOSS Weekly:
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13:15 Oak Kavinsky - Nightcall[…]_3Dpw-BRY&ob=av2e
13:16 Oak magnuse
13:16 magnuse Oak
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13:18 druthb o/
13:19 jcamins \o
13:20 magnuse o/
13:23 oleonard druthb: When do you come back?
13:24 druthb we fly out of Mumbai tomorrow night, local, landing at Newark Wednesday morning...then I'm in the air much of the day, to get back to Nashville via Milwaukee.
13:25 oleonard bugzilla tells me hackfest was productive
13:26 jcamins oleonard: yeah, there are almost as many bugs needing sign off as there were before the hackfest. ;)
13:27 magnuse and i have ~200 unread *threads* from the bugs mailing list etc...
13:28 druthb it seemed to be very productive.  Ian wasn't satisfied--he wanted more done, of course.  But it went well, and the bunch of learners and translators here was just awesome.
13:29 oleonard It's such a treat to get together in the same room... hard to reproduce that productivity virtually.
13:32 druthb I'm told a lot of progress was made on the Marathi translation, which is something they need here.
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13:34 magnuse that's very cool!
13:35 magnuse pootle only says 2% translated, though...
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13:53 * oleonard can now see what "P5" means and still doesn't know what difference priority makes
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14:01 magnuse namaste kmkale and paul_p
14:01 paul_p hi magnuse ! we are heading for dinner now. Then... back to France ! (take-off at 3AM... ouch...)
14:02 paul_p really a *great* KohaCon and time in india !
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14:02 magnuse wow, that's a nice time to take off!
14:02 magnuse yay
14:02 magnuse have a nice dinner!
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14:12 kf nice dinner and sace travels paul_away
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14:17 magnuse kf: s/sace/space/ ? ;-)
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14:18 oleonard_ space_travels++
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14:19 kf save... :)
14:19 kf hi oleonard
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14:19 kf a question about your yui replacement branch
14:19 kf is the alpha widget for menus included there? or still using yui then?
14:20 oleonard Still YUI
14:20 kf is there another way we could do menus with jquery than using the widget? perhaps writing our 'own' widget?
14:20 kf is the problem pull down buttons basically? and split buttons?
14:20 oleonard It may be getting to the point where we should do that. I didn't realize until I started writing that email that I'd been maintaining the branch for almost a year now
14:21 oleonard ...but I then we'll need to switch to the jQuery-native version when it becomes available
14:21 kf hmm
14:21 oleonard (at least I would prefer to, to keep things simple)
14:21 kf yeah
14:21 magnuse keeping_things_simple++
14:21 kf is there something else people are using perhaps?
14:21 kf hard to believe there is no solution at all for buttons
14:21 kf or menus
14:22 kf I would like to kill those buttons (in hope for better accessibility)
14:22 hdl kf: we could be using menus with css and not use any js for that.
14:22 kf which seems to be aproblem with yui
14:23 hdl
14:24 kf I think owen has the best overview of the elements used and what we need to replace
14:24 kf I was only hoping we could make the change happen sometime soon
14:24 oleonard kf: I would like to know more about the accessibility problems you've heard about
14:24 kf I had no time before my vacation to investigage - as soon as I can I will give you an update
14:25 magnuse is now known as magnus_afk
14:25 kf I have a new library with a blind staff member, using braille line and jaws as a screen reader
14:25 kf one problem is the reading sequence in cataloging
14:25 kf apparently it reads all indicators (the column) and the fields after that
14:25 hdl kf: or this one :[…]ise_en_page_4.php
14:26 kf which of course makes it hard to find out which indicator belongs to what
14:26 kf and the other problem I got told is the pull down menu buttons
14:26 kf oleonard: the example they printed for me is about the edit, save and new buttons on the catalog detail page in staff
14:27 kf they write that the pull down will not open for them - it does on the screenshots, I think they mean that the reader does not see it perhaps
14:28 kf hm I see on the screenshots they are workign with ie.. perhaps worth a try in firefox?
14:29 hdl[…]23/rollovers.html
14:30 hdl This link is also a ressource in order not to use javascript to build up menus.
14:31 kf hdl: I think it's interesting, but I am not an expert here :(
14:32 kf I am not sure why we chose to do it with yui in the past and what the limitations/requirements are
14:32 hdl or this
14:33 trea1 is now known as trea
14:33 hdl kf: I am not expert either. just wanted to say there could be solutions to make that work well only with css.
14:34 hdl kf: neither do I remember it has ever been discussed somewhere that we should use yui for buttons.
14:34 oleonard We didn't vote on it or anything, it was my decision.
14:34 kf I think it was probably the easiest way to do pull downs, but things might have changed with new options in browsers and such now
14:35 oleonard The primary disadvantage of CSS menus as I see it is that they pop up whether you meant to hover over them or not
14:36 kf they don't react to clicks?
14:37 oleonard No, not as far as I know
14:37 oleonard Javascript is required for interactions with clicks
14:37 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6752] Be stricter with utf-8 output <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6752>
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14:40 kf oleonard: makes sense
14:40 kf sorry meeting
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14:44 oleonard Could someone please try to access and tell me if it works?
14:45 jcamins Works for me.
14:45 trea ^^
14:45 rhcl I was just there...on now actually
14:45 alex_a it works oleonard
14:45 * oleonard grumbles
14:46 wizzyrea oleonard: works from here
14:46 * oleonard wonders why it doesn't work for him
14:47 wizzyrea can you ping it?
14:47 trea dns problem perhaps?
14:47 trea ping by name vs ping by IP
14:48 wizzyrea hmm, some problems here
14:48 wizzyrea
14:48 wizzyrea (yes, that takes ages to load.
14:48 wizzyrea )
14:49 wizzyrea mostly mismatches between vs
14:49 wizzyrea so maybe they did some maintenance at the state where your DNS is hosted?
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14:52 oleonard Thanks for checking everyone
14:52 jcamins oleonard: could also be a misconfigured internal view.
14:52 oleonard We had some people doing some checking of our internal network over the weekend
14:53 oleonard ...but I was able to connect to one of our sites earlier this morning
14:53 jcamins oleonard: also, apparently lots of unrelated IRC networks are experiencing netsplits today.
14:54 jcamins It's the end of the Internet!
14:54 wizzyrea well we did have earthquakes in Kansas this weekend.
14:54 * jcamins runs around waving his hands in the air in a disturbed fashion.
14:54 wizzyrea might just be the end of the world
14:54 oleonard Anonymous has struck, and is taking down high profile targets like Ohio public libraries!
14:54 wizzyrea "muppet arming"
14:55 * wizzyrea remembers the iranians who went after kansas libraries, shudders.
14:55 wizzyrea (I wish that were a joke)
14:55 * oleonard doesn't remember that!
14:56 wizzyrea that was... late 2009 I guess.
15:01 wizzyrea best bug report ever:[…]kernel-panic.html
15:03 jcamins wizzyrea: awesome!
15:04 jcamins The bug report, not the Iranians going after the Kansas libraries (and why did they do that?).
15:05 oleonard they hate our freedom *and* our wide selection of picture books
15:05 wizzyrea precisely
15:05 wizzyrea ;)
15:10 jcamins oleonard: http://www.downforeveryoneorju[…] :P
15:12 jcamins It's down for me, too, BTW
15:12 wizzyrea i bet the DNS cache is expiring
15:13 wizzyrea still up from here, we use OpenDNS
15:13 wizzyrea for resolving
15:13 * oleonard rushes to get his day's worth of internet surfing done
15:13 wizzyrea naw, the DNS cache for just your domain -- they've mucked something up at your DNS host
15:13 jcamins downforeveryoneorjustme is down for me. myacpl is up.
15:14 wizzyrea lol o
15:14 wizzyrea nm then
15:14 * wizzyrea misunderstood
15:15 oleonard also down for me, oddly enough, Amazon cover images. Or is that an API change kicking in?
15:16 wizzyrea oh hm
15:16 wizzyrea amazons are working for me
15:17 wizzyrea oleonard, do you have control over the DNS settings on your own machine?
15:17 wizzyrea i wonder if the server you are using for your resolver has changed or is down
15:18 wizzyrea you can try putting google or another DNS resolver in
15:18 oleonard We are using OpenDNS too. No DNS setup on my machine
15:18 wizzyrea weird.
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15:32 oleonard Response from upstream, "I think it's a TWT issue we're working on ATM; 95% sure it's not your problem"
15:32 oleonard What the hell is a TWT issue? Some twit broke the internet?
15:35 jcamins Traveling-wave tube.
15:37 wizzyrea that is an acronym even I don't know
15:39 jcamins Totally Weird Transitory issue?
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15:51 slef OpenDNS breaks messily IME
15:53 * wizzyrea has never had any messy breakages of OpenDNS
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15:53 wizzyrea but, then again, i gave it a tincture of bat ears and eye of newt.
15:55 oleonard Idea: pass results of guided reports directly to bulk operations like item edit, item delete, list and cart creation.
15:56 oleonard Aaaand... we're back.
15:57 oleonard they must have gotten the Trans-Warp Terminal back online.
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16:11 wizzyrea someone scrubbed out the EPS conduits.
16:12 kf sun spots?
16:12 oleonard the computer's gel-packs got the sneezles.
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16:14 * chris_n learns the 'exec' command by trial and error :-/
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16:18 jcamins oleonard++ # his Twitter is very entertaining.
16:18 wizzyrea *nod*
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16:20 * jcamins waves to the KohaConners again.
16:20 kf oleonard++
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16:22 reiveune bye
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16:30 * dpavlin wants to thank everyone at KohaCon for great time! Off to airport in few hours...
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17:01 Oak hello cait at home :)
17:01 cait hello Oak :)
17:01 Oak had dinner?
17:02 cait having dinner right now :)
17:02 nengard is now known as nengard_lunch
17:02 Oak good :)
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17:07 Oak hello druthb :)
17:07 wizzyrea hi ruth
17:07 druthb Hi, Oak and wizzyrea!
17:07 Oak hello wizzyrea :)
17:08 Oak ladybug is having dinner
17:08 * jcamins tries to come up with a fast and easy idea for lunch and dinner that doesn't require more than one pot, or anything he doesn't have on hand.
17:08 Oak pot?
17:08 jcamins And preferably isn't dal, because at some point Shari is going to get fed up with me making dal and just throw it in my face when I serve it to her again.
17:08 jcamins Oak: yeah, for cooking in.
17:09 jcamins I don't _really_ have use of my kitchen.
17:09 Oak ah, not marijuana
17:09 jcamins No.
17:09 Oak good
17:10 Oak :]
17:10 * Oak just says random silly things
17:11 Oak ooh, the roach problem. cracks filled?
17:11 jcamins Yup.
17:11 jcamins And the entire place coated with poison.
17:12 Oak ah, i was about to write "that's good". not anymore.
17:12 jcamins I don't anticipate it will make that much of a difference, but every little bit helps.
17:12 Oak hmm
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17:16 Oak how is the cough sekjal
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17:16 sekjal a little better, but still there
17:17 Oak good that it's better...
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17:22 rhcl turkeyburgers
17:24 magnus_afk is now known as magnuse
17:24 nengard_lunch is now known as nengard
17:27 wizzyrea oleonard: i changed the wording back as suggested on 6323
17:27 oleonard wizzyrea++
17:28 wizzyrea it makes the button huge but... oh well.
17:30 oleonard huge butt
17:30 oleonard -ons++
17:30 wizzyrea lol
17:30 wizzyrea are you channelling sir mix a lot?
17:30 druthb @roulette
17:30 huginn druthb: *click*
17:31 druthb @roulette
17:31 huginn druthb: *click*
17:31 druthb dang.
17:31 druthb @roulette
17:31 huginn druthb: *click*
17:31 * wizzyrea takes the gun away from druthb
17:31 druthb !
17:31 wizzyrea and tosses it in some quick dry concrete.
17:32 cait @roulette
17:32 huginn cait: *click*
17:32 magnuse @roulette
17:32 huginn *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
17:32 * huginn reloads and spins the chambers.
17:32 cait lol
17:33 * wizzyrea hrmphs
17:33 magnuse blanks++
17:33 cait @roulette
17:33 huginn cait: *click*
17:33 cait @roulette
17:33 huginn cait: *click*
17:33 cait yeah, this day really...
17:33 * druthb takes the gun from cait
17:33 * druthb hands it to wizzy
17:33 magnuse @roulette
17:33 huginn *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
17:33 * huginn reloads and spins the chambers.
17:34 magnuse blanks++
17:34 * wizzyrea tosses it in the quick dro concrete
17:34 wizzyrea s/dro/dry
17:34 druthb lol
17:34 wizzyrea i'm gonna have a collection.
17:34 * wizzyrea snatches the gun from magnuse and adds it to her collection
17:34 magnuse oy!
17:34 druthb hehehe
17:34 druthb poor magnuse!
17:35 magnuse nah, it was old and worn
17:35 cait @roulette
17:36 huginn cait: *click*
17:36 cait grrr
17:36 cait @roulette
17:36 huginn cait: *click*
17:36 wizzyrea these things are multiplying!
17:36 cait @roulette
17:36 huginn cait: *click*
17:36 cait @roulette !
17:36 huginn cait: (roulette [spin]) -- Fires the revolver. If the bullet was in the chamber, you're dead. Tell me to spin the chambers and I will.
17:36 cait @roulette
17:36 huginn *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
17:36 * huginn reloads and spins the chambers.
17:36 cait finally
17:36 magnuse @roulette spin
17:36 huginn *SPIN* Are you feeling lucky?
17:37 magnuse @roulette
17:37 huginn magnuse: *click*
17:37 cait how was your day magnuse?
17:37 * cait is a zombie now
17:37 magnuse cait: not bad, got some work done on the library history wiki...
17:37 magnuse y'all following the discussion on "Bibliographic Framework Transition Initiative Forum" ?
17:37 sekjal @roulette
17:37 huginn sekjal: *click*
17:37 wizzyrea some
17:38 cait nope
17:38 cait I wil wait for the book
17:38 * jcamins is waiting for the cliff's notes.
17:39 * magnuse thinks we live in interesting times...
17:39 magnuse but has not managed to keep up with the list so far...
17:40 cait you can say that
17:40 cait but I would have wished for this day to be a bit less interesting
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17:42 libsysguy hey #Koha
17:42 libsysguy anybody know how i could disable comment approval?
17:43 cait hmm
17:43 cait not sure it's possible
17:43 wizzyrea i think there's a syspref for require moderation
17:43 libsysguy hmm
17:43 libsysguy yeah i was looking for one
17:43 libsysguy but I can't find it
17:43 libsysguy nothing relivant when i search for 'comment'
17:43 * druthb waves to libsysguy.
17:44 libsysguy HI druthb
17:44 rangi look for reviews
17:44 rangi there is a syspref
17:44 * oleonard just was, doesn't see it
17:45 cait I know you can turn it off for tags
17:45 cait hm.
17:45 * magnuse can't see it either - just reviewson, ShowReviewer, ShowReviewerPhoto
17:45 wizzyrea yea, i'm not seeing a pref for "no moderation"
17:45 libsysguy ^^
17:45 rangi hmm there def used to be
17:45 cait you can have different mechanism for tag approval, not sure about comments
17:46 rangi back when it was reviews
17:46 rangi and before tags
17:46 libsysguy what is library thing?
17:46 cait I tried moder*, comment and review
17:46 cait no match
17:46 rangi shouldn't be hard to put back
17:46 magnuse libsysguy:
17:46 libsysguy was just looking at that
17:46 oleonard I think maybe moderation was added without giving the option of turning it off
17:46 libsysguy is that the way koha does mobile?
17:47 magnuse at least it's how wizzyrea does mobile ;-)
17:47 libsysguy hehe
17:47 wizzyrea library anywhere is how NEKLS does it
17:47 oleonard Wait, Bug 2431
17:47 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2431 major, P3, ---, chris, RESOLVED FIXED, Bug with Comments Moderation when Editing
17:47 oleonard "When you enter a comment, it goes into moderation if moderation is turned on."
17:47 oleonard "if moderation is turned on"
17:48 rangi yeah
17:48 rangi i was pretty sure
17:49 libsysguy so this isn't pushed yet?
17:49 cait no
17:49 cait this is a bug
17:49 cait if you enter a comment
17:49 libsysguy ahh
17:49 cait someone approves it
17:49 cait it shows up
17:49 cait person comes back
17:49 cait sees a typo
17:49 cait edits the own comment
17:49 cait comment lost
17:49 cait forever
17:49 libsysguy oh noo
17:49 cait in the depth of the database
17:49 cait yeah
17:49 cait I filed that a looong time ago
17:50 cait noone care
17:50 cait s
17:50 cait sorry, bad mood tonight
17:50 libsysguy oh no cait whats wrong?
17:50 * wizzyrea soothes cait
17:50 cait first day back at work after vacation
17:50 libsysguy ohhh
17:50 libsysguy well that explains a lot
17:51 wizzyrea *nod* I have mondayitis.
17:51 * druthb soothes cait, too
17:52 cait aaaq
17:52 cait aaaw even
17:52 * wizzyrea gives cait yummy cookies
17:53 * cait nibbles
17:53 cait thx
17:59 cait hm
17:59 cait @roulette
17:59 huginn cait: *click*
17:59 cait more cookies?
17:59 magnuse cait: try spinning first?
17:59 * druthb hands over cookies
17:59 cait :)
17:59 cait it worked
17:59 * cait hands wizzyrea the gun
18:00 oleonard is now known as oleonard-away
18:00 wizzyrea :D
18:05 * druthb pulls out another gun, and hands it to huginn.
18:05 druthb @roulette
18:05 huginn druthb: *click*
18:05 druthb @roulette
18:05 huginn druthb: *click*
18:05 druthb @roulette
18:05 druthb was kicked by huginn: BANG!
18:05 * huginn reloads and spins the chambers.
18:05 wizzyrea take that.
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18:05 druthb lol
18:06 * wizzyrea gave huginn powers.
18:06 druthb lulz
18:07 druthb goodness.   5 after midnight.
18:07 druthb Heaven knows I need all the beauty sleep I can get, but I'm not tired.
18:08 sekjal ditto
18:09 * cait hands druthb cookies
18:10 * druthb takes the cookies, and shares with sekjal
18:10 cait when is your flight?
18:11 druthb late-late tomorrow night.
18:11 cait aah
18:11 cait what are you gonna do tomorrow?
18:12 trea is now known as trea-lunch
18:12 druthb eat breakfast with jransom and Brooke, before they head out, and then pack, stow our luggage somewhere, and wander about some.  maybe shop a little.
18:13 sekjal find a spice market if we can
18:13 cait :)
18:13 druthb :)
18:14 wizzyrea mmm spice market
18:15 cait if you 2 can't sleep... you could get together and fix the moderations bug for libsysguy ;)
18:16 wizzyrea hehe
18:16 wizzyrea weird that the pref went missing
18:16 * cait is not so surprised really
18:16 cait but that might be this monday
18:17 magnuse no sleep 'til git send-email!
18:20 sekjal going to force myself to bed
18:20 sekjal druthb: I recommend you do the same
18:20 druthb I'm going to, in a few.
18:21 magnuse in a few what? hours? ;-)
18:21 * magnuse demands more specificity!
18:21 * druthb pokes magnuse.
18:21 druthb in a few minutes, you crazy Norwegian.
18:22 druthb :P
18:22 magnuse moahaha!
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18:30 sekjal druthb: it's been more than a few... go to bed!
18:30 cait magnuse: shouldn't the crazy norwegian call it a day too?
18:30 * cait hides
18:30 magnuse look who's talking! ;-)
18:30 cait hehe
18:31 druthb only if you go too, sekjal!    Dun make me come down there and tuck you in!
18:31 magnuse nope, the crazy norwegian is going to work a little bit more
18:31 rangi back from the bus stop
18:31 magnuse ata marie rangi
18:31 cait morning rangi :)
18:32 druthb to bed for Ruthie.   rangi or wizzyrea, if sekjal isn't gone in a couple of minutes, clobber him for me?
18:32 * sekjal disppears
18:32 magnuse will do!
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18:33 cait she doesn't trust me to do it apparently
18:33 druthb you're not an op, cait.
18:33 cait *sniff*
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18:37 rangi hi nengard
18:37 nengard hiya
18:40 Oak me go now to bed.
18:40 Oak see you guys tomorrow.
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18:41 magnuse see ya Oak
18:41 magnuse dang
18:41 rangi heh
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18:52 magnuse "Powered by Koha" - oh yes, baby!
18:53 cait hehe
18:53 rangi Hehe
18:53 magnuse but the global default is "off"?
18:53 cait will turn that on, once we have updated them all.. muhar
18:54 cait magnuse: for new instalations too?
18:54 rangi I think on for new
18:54 magnuse hm, maybe just for old ones?
18:54 rangi off for upgrades
18:54 magnuse yup, you are right!
18:55 rangi cait usually is
18:55 magnuse guess that makes sense too
18:55 magnuse :-)
18:55 cait cait usually is?
18:55 rangi right
18:55 cait oh
18:56 magnuse that reminds me of our little "report to the mothership" feature...
18:56 cait lol
18:56 rangi yeah
18:57 rangi should write that sometime
18:58 cait can we call it that?
18:58 rangi Hehe
18:59 magnuse go rangi go go go ;-)
18:59 rangi say hi to the community feature
19:00 magnuse bug 6293
19:00 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6293 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Add a button to the intranet for registering with the Koha community
19:00 rangi that one
19:01 rangi my stop
19:01 rangi bbiab
19:05 magnuse is the syntax of the isbd syspref explained anywhere?
19:05 magnuse and is there a syspref for turning off the isbd view in the opac? i couldn't find it...
19:07 wizzyrea numsearchRSSresults - only RSS and not all searches?
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19:08 wizzyrea (seems logical, but just double checking)
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19:13 cait magnuse: you can do it with css
19:13 cait magnuse: but there also might be a syspref
19:13 cait or emptying it out
19:14 magnuse $('#ISBDview').empty(); ?
19:14 wizzyrea you can definitely do it with CSS, I couldn't find a syspref for it
19:14 wizzyrea or #isbdview { display: none;}
19:14 wizzyrea or somesuch
19:15 magnuse argh, i'm putting js in the css syspref...
19:15 magnuse time to call it a day real soon now...
19:15 wizzyrea do note I haven't tried that :P
19:15 wizzyrea though I think I *will*
19:15 wizzyrea because that view isn't for patrons.
19:15 cait wizzyrea: looks right to me
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19:19 magnuse hm, my attempt at jquery does not seem to work...
19:20 cait you shoudl try the csss
19:20 cait it's nicer too
19:20 cait magnuse?
19:20 wahanui somebody said magnuse was afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza.
19:20 magnuse hm, no luck with that either
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19:21 cait let me check )
19:22 cait you put it in opacusercss?
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19:22 cait #ISBDview {display:none;}
19:22 * magnuse just learned that css selectors are case sensitive
19:22 wizzyrea a#ISBDview {display:none;}
19:23 cait yep
19:23 cait I was about to tell you that :)
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19:23 magnuse guess i always use lowercase when i write html...
19:23 cait metoo
19:23 oleonard $("#ISBDview").parent().remove();
19:23 oleonard (if you want the js)
19:24 magnuse wizzyrea++
19:24 magnuse oleonard++
19:24 cait wizzyrea++
19:24 cait oleonard++
19:24 wizzyrea oleonard++
19:24 oleonard cait++
19:24 oleonard magnuse++
19:24 wizzyrea karma party :)
19:24 wahanui party :) has neutral karma
19:24 cait hehe
19:24 oleonard wizzyrea++
19:24 magnuse cait++
19:24 wizzyrea ack lol
19:25 oleonard party++
19:25 magnuse party++
19:25 magnuse hehe
19:27 magnuse i'm calling it a day - take care, koha friends!
19:27 magnuse is now known as magnus_away
19:27 wizzyrea magnuse++ cait++
19:27 wizzyrea ha
19:27 cait lol
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19:29 wizzyrea @later tell magnuse thanks for bringing up the idea to hide the ISBD view with CSS - I did that on NExpress and I feel much happier with it. ;)
19:29 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
19:29 rangi[…]Alternative_names
19:29 rangi from magnuse
19:29 wizzyrea whoooot
19:30 cait rofl
19:30 wizzyrea oh I see we are cheering cait up :_
19:30 wizzyrea :)
19:30 cait yeah, you are the best
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19:35 rangi[…]111107-01.en.html
19:35 rangi so totally not cool
19:35 rangi ijits
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19:40 wizzyrea doh!
19:40 cait ok,rangi is killing the mood again
19:40 wizzyrea kittens!
19:41 rangi ohhh sorry
19:41 rangi time for some ghost chips
19:42 rangi[…]annel_video_title
19:42 wizzyrea https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamai[…]_1787037682_n.jpg does that work?
19:42 wizzyrea you know I can't eat your ghost chips!
19:42 rangi check this one out
19:42 rangi its the music vid
19:45 rangi also
19:45 rangi
19:45 wizzyrea loool
19:45 cait oh yes, ghost chips
19:45 cait yum
19:45 rangi Bought some 2 Minute Noodles...
19:46 rangi Nekk Minut
19:46 rangi Nekk Minut
19:46 rangi Cooked :D
19:46 cait ?
19:46 wizzyrea lol he stole the chips
19:46 rangi its another random nz meme (the 2nd link)
19:46 wizzyrea "these ghost chips are yum"
19:46 rangi hehe
19:46 * cait giggles
19:47 wizzyrea lol I like how they start laughing at the end
19:48 rangi yup
19:48 rangi who could sing that, and stay serious ;)
19:48 wizzyrea not me
19:49 oleonard Sounds like something out of Mighty Boosh
19:49 rangi oh
19:49 rangi you havent seen the original one eh oleonard ?
19:49 rangi its a road safety ad
19:49 rangi 2 secs ill get it
19:50 oleonard Yeah I have
19:50 rangi[…]A&feature=feedlik
19:50 rangi ah ok
19:50 rangi there's a kids one too
19:51 rangi
19:54 wizzyrea is there a way to "cache" a search in Koha
19:54 wizzyrea ?
19:54 wizzyrea let's say, for recent acquisitions
19:55 rangi not yet
19:55 rangi but with memcached, could easily cache it
19:55 rangi but the problem is, availability changes
19:55 wizzyrea right
19:56 wizzyrea what I think I'm really wanting
19:56 wizzyrea is a minimal result search
19:56 wizzyrea no availability
19:56 wizzyrea let me explain
19:56 rangi no
19:56 rangi hehehe
19:56 wizzyrea *sob*
19:57 * rangi giggles
19:57 wizzyrea FINE
19:57 rangi well
19:57 * wizzyrea sulks
19:57 wizzyrea ;)
19:57 rangi i think this is actually heading where i am wanting to do some work before the academy
19:57 rangi because the plan for that
19:57 rangi is extend reports
19:57 rangi to allow it to hand back, xml and/or json
19:57 wizzyrea oh I like where your head's at
19:58 rangi originally for the staff dashboard
19:58 rangi BUT
19:58 rangi why not make them available public, with an option
19:58 rangi and thus
19:58 rangi ajax the results into the opac
19:58 * wizzyrea begs for that
19:58 rangi also, have an option
19:58 rangi cache for 20 mins
19:58 rangi or 10
19:58 rangi or 0
19:58 rangi or 3 days
19:58 wizzyrea or hours
19:59 wizzyrea yea
19:59 rangi and then you just craft a report to return the JSON you want
19:59 wizzyrea there is no reason to click a button to execute a n entire search
19:59 rangi and then use jquery to make it display
19:59 wizzyrea just to see the stuff that was added yesterday
19:59 rangi yes
19:59 rangi new books
19:59 wahanui new books is a tough one
19:59 rangi not anymore its noT!
19:59 wizzyrea hehe
20:00 wizzyrea love the idea that it's based on a report
20:00 cait I leave you alone for a minute... and I miss all that?
20:00 wizzyrea that's a whole new section in the recipe book :)
20:00 rangi yeah
20:00 rangi webservices
20:00 rangi ftw
20:01 cait :)
20:02 rangi and its not even that hard to do
20:03 rangi so yeah, watch this space
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20:06 * jcamins watches
20:07 rangi heh
20:07 wizzyrea not *literally* silily
20:07 wizzyrea slily.
20:07 rangi i know how to do it already see
20:07 wizzyrea silly.
20:07 rangi[…]i-bin/
20:07 rangi vs
20:07 rangi[…]
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20:07 wizzyrea ohsnap
20:07 * cait waves at kathryn
20:08 rangi to_json(\@lines);
20:08 rangi its so hard!
20:08 rangi use JSON;
20:08 kathryn morning cait : )
20:08 rangi oh look, im finished
20:08 wizzyrea oh snizzle.
20:09 rangi well, i have to add caching and public option and write the public script, but yeah
20:09 rangi almost :)
20:09 cait magic
20:09 cait :)
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20:13 kathryn hey wizzyrea just to say hi to you too!
20:13 wizzyrea hi!
20:14 kathryn No news, just hi : )
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20:30 wizzyrea lordie firefox 8
20:30 rangi *sigh*
20:31 cait where are they moving things this time?
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20:34 oleonard the back button will be hidden under a pile of books next to your chair
20:35 cait ah
20:35 cait yeah.... I can imagine that
20:37 wizzyrea anyone have any thoughts on the problem of losing printer settings after a firefox update?
20:37 wizzyrea I'm trying to think of a way to either script or generate the right settings so it's a one click thing for my libraries
20:38 wizzyrea making them reconfigure every time is getting a bit old
20:38 wizzyrea especially with the frequency of updates
20:38 wizzyrea (yes, my creativity is failing me)
20:39 libsysguy well I'd say use Chrome
20:40 wizzyrea can't do that
20:40 libsysguy but printing doesn't work there
20:40 wizzyrea VV that is why
20:40 wizzyrea ^^
20:40 libsysguy which is a tragety
20:40 wizzyrea well printing works
20:40 wizzyrea you just can't auto print silent
20:40 libsysguy I can't get it to work at all
20:41 libsysguy also if anyone ever asks you if you want to try out dpsace just tell them no
20:41 wizzyrea[…]s/detail?id=31395
20:42 wizzyrea so vote for that to get silent printing in chrome
20:42 libsysguy voted
20:57 rhcl dspace works for me
20:58 libsysguy its just a pain to install
20:58 libsysguy why oh why tomcat
20:59 rangi i hate tomcat
20:59 rangi with a passion
20:59 rhcl there are prebuild images
21:00 libsysguy oh...I didn't know that...probably would have made my life easier not having to hunt for the java jdk
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21:13 oleonard bye all
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21:23 rhcl @seen sekjal
21:23 huginn rhcl: sekjal was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 50 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: * sekjal disppears
21:23 wizzyrea he better be in bed.
21:23 rangi heh
21:23 wizzyrea it's like 3am in india.
21:23 wizzyrea or something
21:28 rhcl If I was in India I'd be out walking the streets. You can always sleep during presentations.
21:29 cait conf is already over :
21:29 cait :(
21:40 libsysguy notices are going to drive me crazy
21:40 libsysguy im just throwing that out there
21:41 * cait sends cookies
21:41 libsysguy aww thanks cait :)
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21:54 libsysguy if I wanted to run a query of all patrons with fines over $10 and the item was still checked out do you think this would work
21:54 libsysguy Select *, format(sum(amountoutstanding),2) as fine from accountlines where borrowernumber = 6744 group by itemnumber having fine > 0.00 and (Select count(*) from issues where accountlines.itemnumber = issues.itemnumber group by issues.itemnumber) > 0;
21:55 wizzyrea well, that particular query looks at a single patron
21:55 libsysguy right
21:56 libsysguy there is one above it that gets patrons with fines over $10
21:56 libsysguy sorry
21:56 libsysguy the group was weird
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22:31 wizzyrea hm, one other thing that the proposed changes to updatedatabase would allow, is allowing optional database components
22:31 wizzyrea kinda like plugins.
22:32 wizzyrea you wanna tack on a table for unique management? Ok! It's an option!
22:32 wizzyrea or maybe I don't understand, which is always a possibility
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23:02 rangi it kinda would
23:02 rangi but that could get messy fast
23:03 wizzyrea well yes
23:04 * wizzyrea points to the strange and weird things that wordpress plugins do
23:04 wizzyrea sometimes
23:04 wizzyrea but sometimes they do glorious things too.
23:05 rangi yup
23:05 rangi it would have to be managed well
23:06 rangi personally
23:06 rangi i want to do more of the webservicey stuff (like above)
23:06 wizzyrea *nod*
23:06 rangi and ppl can do their mad shit outside of koha :)
23:06 rangi smaller and leaner, not bigger and bloated ;)
23:06 wizzyrea and people were doing that -- see the koha-scripts thing
23:06 rangi yup
23:07 wizzyrea anyway
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23:07 wizzyrea i've gotta go get custard (well pudding really) the spud requires fish sticks and custard. (doctor who fans will get the reference)
23:09 rangi :-)
23:10 rangi can you buy custard powder in the us?
23:10 rhcl is now known as rhcl_away
23:10 libsysguy can anybody tell me what accountno is used for in accountlines
23:10 rangi accountno + borrowernumber = key
23:11 libsysguy ahh
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23:21 Judit hi
23:31 Small joined #koha
23:31 Small i need help starting zebra, or fixing it
23:31 Small all of my searches are broken, and it is installed
23:31 Small They broke after upgrade
23:32 Judit did you try do rebulit zebra?
23:33 Small yes, and it said command not found
23:33 Small the file is there
23:34 Small but with the options, it errors command not found
23:34 Judit are you root?
23:34 Small yes
23:36 Judit i dont relly know, sorry
23:36 Judit i would try to run the command as koha user
23:37 Small ok
23:38 Judit which koha is it?
23:40 Small 3.06
23:40 Small i forget wich is my koha user
23:40 Small i have lots of usernames, i forget wich one was for koha
23:40 Small is there anyway to find out?
23:43 Small ok
23:43 Small i remember
23:44 Small now when i reindex i get an error
23:44 Judit same error?
23:44 Small BEGIN failed--complication aborted at line 6.
23:44 Small nope, diffrent now
23:45 Small :(
23:46 Small do you know why?
23:47 Judit sorry Small, no i dont
23:47 Small hmm
23:48 Small Anyone else/
23:48 Small Anyone else?
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23:50 moodaepo Small_2: http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.[…]-a-td4654545.html
23:50 Small_2 what is this>
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23:51 moodaepo As Judit mentioned you should be running it as the user that runs koha
23:52 Small_2 ok
23:52 Small_2 i sortof dont know the user though :/
23:54 * Small_2 is using the koha live cd, he doesn't know the user
23:59 moodaepo Small_2: Are you using the "Live CD (No Install Option)"?

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