Time  Nick           Message
23:59 moodaepo       Small_2: Are you using the "Live CD (No Install Option)"?
23:54 * Small_2      is using the koha live cd, he doesn't know the user
23:52 Small_2        i sortof dont know the user though :/
23:52 Small_2        ok
23:51 moodaepo       As Judit mentioned you should be running it as the user that runs koha
23:50 Small_2        what is this>
23:50 moodaepo       Small_2: http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.com/Cron-Failing-KOHAPATH-bin-migration-tools-rebuild-zebra-pl-a-td4654545.html
23:48 Small          Anyone else?
23:48 Small          Anyone else/
23:47 Small          hmm
23:47 Judit          sorry Small, no i dont
23:46 Small          do you know why?
23:45 Small          :(
23:44 Small          nope, diffrent now
23:44 Small          BEGIN failed--complication aborted at rebuild_zebra.pl line 6.
23:44 Judit          same error?
23:44 Small          now when i reindex i get an error
23:43 Small          i remember
23:43 Small          ok
23:40 Small          is there anyway to find out?
23:40 Small          i have lots of usernames, i forget wich one was for koha
23:40 Small          i forget wich is my koha user
23:40 Small          3.06
23:38 Judit          which koha is it?
23:37 Small          ok
23:36 Judit          i would try to run the command as koha user
23:36 Judit          i dont relly know, sorry
23:34 Small          yes
23:34 Judit          are you root?
23:34 Small          but with the options, it errors command not found
23:33 Small          the file is there
23:33 Small          yes, and it said command not found
23:32 Judit          did you try do rebulit zebra?
23:31 Small          They broke after upgrade
23:31 Small          all of my searches are broken, and it is installed
23:31 Small          i need help starting zebra, or fixing it
23:21 Judit          hi
23:11 libsysguy      ahh
23:10 rangi          accountno + borrowernumber = key
23:10 libsysguy      can anybody tell me what accountno is used for in accountlines
23:10 rangi          can you buy custard powder in the us?
23:09 rangi          :-)
23:07 wizzyrea       i've gotta go get custard (well pudding really) the spud requires fish sticks and custard. (doctor who fans will get the reference)
23:07 wizzyrea       anyway
23:06 rangi          yup
23:06 wizzyrea       and people were doing that -- see the koha-scripts thing
23:06 rangi          smaller and leaner, not bigger and bloated ;)
23:06 rangi          and ppl can do their mad shit outside of koha :)
23:06 wizzyrea       *nod*
23:06 rangi          i want to do more of the webservicey stuff (like above)
23:06 rangi          personally
23:05 rangi          it would have to be managed well
23:05 rangi          yup
23:04 wizzyrea       but sometimes they do glorious things too.
23:04 wizzyrea       sometimes
23:04 * wizzyrea     points to the strange and weird things that wordpress plugins do
23:03 wizzyrea       well yes
23:02 rangi          but that could get messy fast
23:02 rangi          it kinda would
22:32 wizzyrea       or maybe I don't understand, which is always a possibility
22:32 wizzyrea       you wanna tack on a table for unique management? Ok! It's an option!
22:31 wizzyrea       kinda like plugins.
22:31 wizzyrea       hm, one other thing that the proposed changes to updatedatabase would allow, is allowing optional database components
21:56 libsysguy      the group was weird
21:56 libsysguy      sorry
21:56 libsysguy      there is one above it that gets patrons with fines over $10
21:55 libsysguy      right
21:55 wizzyrea       well, that particular query looks at a single patron
21:54 libsysguy      Select *, format(sum(amountoutstanding),2) as fine from accountlines where borrowernumber = 6744 group by itemnumber having fine > 0.00 and (Select count(*) from issues where accountlines.itemnumber = issues.itemnumber group by issues.itemnumber) > 0;
21:54 libsysguy      if I wanted to run a query of all patrons with fines over $10 and the item was still checked out do you think this would work
21:41 libsysguy      aww thanks cait :)
21:41 * cait         sends cookies
21:40 libsysguy      im just throwing that out there
21:40 libsysguy      notices are going to drive me crazy
21:29 cait           :(
21:29 cait           conf is already over :
21:28 rhcl           If I was in India I'd be out walking the streets. You can always sleep during presentations.
21:23 wizzyrea       or something
21:23 wizzyrea       it's like 3am in india.
21:23 rangi          heh
21:23 wizzyrea       he better be in bed.
21:23 huginn         rhcl: sekjal was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 50 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: * sekjal disppears
21:23 rhcl           @seen sekjal
21:13 oleonard       bye all
21:02 rhcl           http://www.jumpbox.com/app/dspace
21:00 libsysguy      oh...I didn't know that...probably would have made my life easier not having to hunt for the java jdk
20:59 rhcl           there are prebuild images
20:59 rangi          with a passion
20:59 rangi          i hate tomcat
20:58 libsysguy      why oh why tomcat
20:58 libsysguy      its just a pain to install
20:57 rhcl           dspace works for me
20:42 libsysguy      voted
20:42 wizzyrea       so vote for that to get silent printing in chrome
20:41 wizzyrea       https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=31395
20:41 libsysguy      also if anyone ever asks you if you want to try out dpsace just tell them no
20:40 libsysguy      I can't get it to work at all
20:40 wizzyrea       you just can't auto print silent
20:40 wizzyrea       well printing works
20:40 libsysguy      which is a tragety
20:40 wizzyrea       ^^
20:40 wizzyrea       VV that is why
20:40 libsysguy      but printing doesn't work there
20:40 wizzyrea       can't do that
20:39 libsysguy      well I'd say use Chrome
20:38 wizzyrea       (yes, my creativity is failing me)
20:38 wizzyrea       especially with the frequency of updates
20:38 wizzyrea       making them reconfigure every time is getting a bit old
20:37 wizzyrea       I'm trying to think of a way to either script or generate the right settings so it's a one click thing for my libraries
20:37 wizzyrea       anyone have any thoughts on the problem of losing printer settings after a firefox update?
20:35 cait           yeah.... I can imagine that
20:35 cait           ah
20:34 oleonard       the back button will be hidden under a pile of books next to your chair
20:31 cait           where are they moving things this time?
20:30 rangi          *sigh*
20:30 wizzyrea       lordie firefox 8
20:14 kathryn        No news, just hi : )
20:13 wizzyrea       hi!
20:13 kathryn        hey wizzyrea just to say hi to you too!
20:09 cait           :)
20:09 cait           magic
20:09 rangi          almost :)
20:09 rangi          well, i have to add caching and public option and write the public script, but yeah
20:08 wizzyrea       oh snizzle.
20:08 rangi          oh look, im finished
20:08 kathryn        morning cait : )
20:08 rangi          use JSON;
20:08 rangi          its so hard!
20:08 rangi          to_json(\@lines);
20:07 * cait         waves at kathryn
20:07 wizzyrea       ohsnap
20:07 rangi          http://bugs.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/progress.pl?type=json
20:07 rangi          vs
20:07 rangi          http://bugs.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/progress.pl
20:07 wizzyrea       silly.
20:07 rangi          i know how to do it already see
20:07 wizzyrea       slily.
20:07 wizzyrea       not *literally* silily
20:07 rangi          heh
20:06 * jcamins      watches
20:03 rangi          so yeah, watch this space
20:02 rangi          and its not even that hard to do
20:01 cait           :)
20:00 rangi          ftw
20:00 rangi          webservices
20:00 rangi          yeah
20:00 wizzyrea       that's a whole new section in the recipe book :)
20:00 cait           I leave you alone for a minute... and I miss all that?
20:00 wizzyrea       love the idea that it's based on a report
19:59 wizzyrea       hehe
19:59 rangi          not anymore its noT!
19:59 wahanui        new books is a tough one
19:59 rangi          new books
19:59 rangi          yes
19:59 wizzyrea       just to see the stuff that was added yesterday
19:59 rangi          and then use jquery to make it display
19:59 wizzyrea       there is no reason to click a button to execute a n entire search
19:59 rangi          and then you just craft a report to return the JSON you want
19:59 wizzyrea       yea
19:58 wizzyrea       or hours
19:58 rangi          or 3 days
19:58 rangi          or 0
19:58 rangi          or 10
19:58 rangi          cache for 20 mins
19:58 rangi          also, have an option
19:58 * wizzyrea     begs for that
19:58 rangi          ajax the results into the opac
19:58 rangi          and thus
19:58 rangi          why not make them available public, with an option
19:58 rangi          BUT
19:58 rangi          originally for the staff dashboard
19:57 wizzyrea       oh I like where your head's at
19:57 rangi          to allow it to hand back, xml and/or json
19:57 rangi          is extend reports
19:57 rangi          because the plan for that
19:57 rangi          i think this is actually heading where i am wanting to do some work before the academy
19:57 wizzyrea       ;)
19:57 * wizzyrea     sulks
19:57 rangi          well
19:57 wizzyrea       FINE
19:57 * rangi        giggles
19:56 wizzyrea       *sob*
19:56 rangi          hehehe
19:56 rangi          no
19:56 wizzyrea       let me explain
19:56 wizzyrea       no availability
19:56 wizzyrea       is a minimal result search
19:56 wizzyrea       what I think I'm really wanting
19:55 wizzyrea       right
19:55 rangi          but the problem is, availability changes
19:55 rangi          but with memcached, could easily cache it
19:55 rangi          not yet
19:54 wizzyrea       let's say, for recent acquisitions
19:54 wizzyrea       ?
19:54 wizzyrea       is there a way to "cache" a search in Koha
19:51 rangi          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1cdWnUebkg
19:50 rangi          there's a kids one too
19:50 rangi          ah ok
19:50 rangi          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIYvD9DI1ZA&feature=feedlik
19:50 oleonard       Yeah I have
19:49 rangi          2 secs ill get it
19:49 rangi          its a road safety ad
19:49 rangi          you havent seen the original one eh oleonard ?
19:49 rangi          oh
19:49 oleonard       Sounds like something out of Mighty Boosh
19:48 wizzyrea       not me
19:48 rangi          who could sing that, and stay serious ;)
19:48 rangi          yup
19:47 wizzyrea       lol I like how they start laughing at the end
19:46 * cait         giggles
19:46 rangi          hehe
19:46 wizzyrea       "these ghost chips are yum"
19:46 rangi          its another random nz meme (the 2nd link)
19:46 wizzyrea       lol he stole the chips
19:46 cait           ?
19:46 rangi          Cooked :D
19:46 rangi          Nekk Minut
19:46 rangi          Nekk Minut
19:45 rangi          Bought some 2 Minute Noodles...
19:45 cait           yum
19:45 cait           oh yes, ghost chips
19:45 wizzyrea       loool
19:45 rangi          http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=Vq36Y-IN6fE
19:45 rangi          also
19:42 rangi          its the music vid
19:42 rangi          check this one out
19:42 wizzyrea       you know I can't eat your ghost chips!
19:42 wizzyrea       https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s320x320/297865_10150342185365978_502780977_8107877_1787037682_n.jpg does that work?
19:42 rangi          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsFlVWqWHlA&feature=channel_video_title
19:41 rangi          time for some ghost chips
19:41 rangi          ohhh sorry
19:40 wizzyrea       kittens!
19:40 cait           ok,rangi is killing the mood again
19:40 wizzyrea       doh!
19:35 rangi          ijits
19:35 rangi          so totally not cool
19:35 rangi          http://fsfe.org/news/2011/news-20111107-01.en.html
19:30 cait           yeah, you are the best
19:30 wizzyrea       :)
19:30 wizzyrea       oh I see we are cheering cait up :_
19:30 cait           rofl
19:29 wizzyrea       whoooot
19:29 rangi          from magnuse
19:29 rangi          http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Add_a_button_to_the_intranet_for_registering_with_the_Koha_community#Alternative_names
19:29 huginn         wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
19:29 wizzyrea       @later tell magnuse thanks for bringing up the idea to hide the ISBD view with CSS - I did that on NExpress and I feel much happier with it. ;)
19:27 cait           lol
19:27 wizzyrea       ha
19:27 wizzyrea       magnuse++ cait++
19:27 magnuse        i'm calling it a day - take care, koha friends!
19:25 magnuse        hehe
19:25 magnuse        party++
19:25 oleonard       party++
19:24 wizzyrea       ack lol
19:24 magnuse        cait++
19:24 oleonard       wizzyrea++
19:24 cait           hehe
19:24 wahanui        party :) has neutral karma
19:24 wizzyrea       karma party :)
19:24 oleonard       magnuse++
19:24 oleonard       cait++
19:24 wizzyrea       oleonard++
19:24 cait           oleonard++
19:24 cait           wizzyrea++
19:24 magnuse        oleonard++
19:24 magnuse        wizzyrea++
19:23 oleonard       (if you want the js)
19:23 oleonard       $("#ISBDview").parent().remove();
19:23 cait           metoo
19:23 magnuse        guess i always use lowercase when i write html...
19:23 cait           I was about to tell you that :)
19:23 cait           yep
19:22 wizzyrea       a#ISBDview {display:none;}
19:22 * magnuse      just learned that css selectors are case sensitive
19:22 cait           #ISBDview {display:none;}
19:22 cait           you put it in opacusercss?
19:21 cait           let me check )
19:20 magnuse        hm, no luck with that either
19:20 wahanui        somebody said magnuse was afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza.
19:20 cait           magnuse?
19:20 cait           it's nicer too
19:20 cait           you shoudl try the csss
19:19 magnuse        hm, my attempt at jquery does not seem to work...
19:15 cait           wizzyrea: looks right to me
19:15 wizzyrea       because that view isn't for patrons.
19:15 wizzyrea       though I think I *will*
19:15 wizzyrea       do note I haven't tried that :P
19:15 magnuse        time to call it a day real soon now...
19:15 magnuse        argh, i'm putting js in the css syspref...
19:14 wizzyrea       or somesuch
19:14 wizzyrea       or #isbdview { display: none;}
19:14 wizzyrea       you can definitely do it with CSS, I couldn't find a syspref for it
19:14 magnuse        $('#ISBDview').empty(); ?
19:13 cait           or emptying it out
19:13 cait           magnuse: but there also might be a syspref
19:13 cait           magnuse: you can do it with css
19:08 wizzyrea       (seems logical, but just double checking)
19:07 wizzyrea       numsearchRSSresults - only RSS and not all searches?
19:05 magnuse        and is there a syspref for turning off the isbd view in the opac? i couldn't find it...
19:05 magnuse        is the syntax of the isbd syspref explained anywhere?
19:01 rangi          bbiab
19:01 rangi          my stop
19:00 rangi          that one
19:00 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6293 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Add a button to the intranet for registering with the Koha community
19:00 magnuse        bug 6293
18:59 rangi          say hi to the community feature
18:59 magnuse        go rangi go go go ;-)
18:58 rangi          Hehe
18:58 cait           can we call it that?
18:57 rangi          should write that sometime
18:56 rangi          yeah
18:56 cait           lol
18:56 magnuse        that reminds me of our little "report to the mothership" feature...
18:55 cait           oh
18:55 rangi          right
18:55 cait           cait usually is?
18:55 magnuse        :-)
18:55 magnuse        guess that makes sense too
18:55 rangi          cait usually is
18:54 magnuse        yup, you are right!
18:54 rangi          off for upgrades
18:54 magnuse        hm, maybe just for old ones?
18:54 rangi          I think on for new
18:54 cait           magnuse: for new instalations too?
18:53 cait           will turn that on, once we have updated them all.. muhar
18:53 magnuse        but the global default is "off"?
18:53 rangi          Hehe
18:53 cait           hehe
18:52 magnuse        "Powered by Koha" - oh yes, baby!
18:41 rangi          heh
18:41 magnuse        dang
18:41 magnuse        see ya Oak
18:40 Oak            see you guys tomorrow.
18:40 Oak            me go now to bed.
18:37 nengard        hiya
18:37 rangi          hi nengard
18:33 cait           *sniff*
18:33 druthb         you're not an op, cait.
18:33 cait           she doesn't trust me to do it apparently
18:32 magnuse        will do!
18:32 * sekjal       disppears
18:32 druthb         okay....off to bed for Ruthie.   rangi or wizzyrea, if sekjal isn't gone in a couple of minutes, clobber him for me?
18:31 cait           morning rangi :)
18:31 magnuse        ata marie rangi
18:31 rangi          back from the bus stop
18:31 magnuse        nope, the crazy norwegian is going to work a little bit more
18:31 druthb         only if you go too, sekjal!    Dun make me come down there and tuck you in!
18:30 cait           hehe
18:30 magnuse        look who's talking! ;-)
18:30 * cait         hides
18:30 cait           magnuse: shouldn't the crazy norwegian call it a day too?
18:30 sekjal         druthb: it's been more than a few... go to bed!
18:22 magnuse        moahaha!
18:22 druthb         :P
18:21 druthb         in a few minutes, you crazy Norwegian.
18:21 * druthb       pokes magnuse.
18:21 * magnuse      demands more specificity!
18:21 magnuse        in a few what? hours? ;-)
18:20 druthb         I'm going to, in a few.
18:20 sekjal         druthb: I recommend you do the same
18:20 sekjal         going to force myself to bed
18:17 magnuse        no sleep 'til git send-email!
18:16 cait           but that might be this monday
18:16 * cait         is not so surprised really
18:16 wizzyrea       weird that the pref went missing
18:16 wizzyrea       hehe
18:15 cait           if you 2 can't sleep... you could get together and fix the moderations bug for libsysguy ;)
18:14 wizzyrea       mmm spice market
18:13 druthb         :)
18:13 cait           :)
18:13 sekjal         find a spice market if we can
18:12 druthb         eat breakfast with jransom and Brooke, before they head out, and then pack, stow our luggage somewhere, and wander about some.  maybe shop a little.
18:11 cait           what are you gonna do tomorrow?
18:11 cait           aah
18:11 druthb         late-late tomorrow night.
18:10 cait           when is your flight?
18:10 * druthb       takes the cookies, and shares with sekjal
18:09 * cait         hands druthb cookies
18:08 sekjal         ditto
18:07 druthb         Heaven knows I need all the beauty sleep I can get, but I'm not tired.
18:07 druthb         goodness.   5 after midnight.
18:06 druthb         lulz
18:06 * wizzyrea     gave huginn powers.
18:05 druthb         lol
18:05 wizzyrea       take that.
18:05 * huginn       reloads and spins the chambers.
18:05 druthb         @roulette
18:05 huginn         druthb: *click*
18:05 druthb         @roulette
18:05 huginn         druthb: *click*
18:05 druthb         @roulette
18:05 * druthb       pulls out another gun, and hands it to huginn.
18:00 wizzyrea       :D
17:59 * cait         hands wizzyrea the gun
17:59 cait           it worked
17:59 cait           :)
17:59 * druthb       hands over cookies
17:59 magnuse        cait: try spinning first?
17:59 cait           more cookies?
17:59 huginn         cait: *click*
17:59 cait           @roulette
17:59 cait           hm
17:53 cait           thx
17:53 * cait         nibbles
17:52 * wizzyrea     gives cait yummy cookies
17:52 cait           aaaw even
17:52 cait           aaaq
17:51 * druthb       soothes cait, too
17:51 wizzyrea       *nod* I have mondayitis.
17:50 libsysguy      well that explains a lot
17:50 libsysguy      ohhh
17:50 cait           first day back at work after vacation
17:50 * wizzyrea     soothes cait
17:50 libsysguy      oh no cait whats wrong?
17:50 cait           sorry, bad mood tonight
17:50 cait           s
17:50 cait           noone care
17:49 cait           I filed that a looong time ago
17:49 cait           yeah
17:49 cait           in the depth of the database
17:49 libsysguy      oh noo
17:49 cait           forever
17:49 cait           comment lost
17:49 cait           edits the own comment
17:49 cait           sees a typo
17:49 cait           person comes back
17:49 cait           it shows up
17:49 cait           someone approves it
17:49 libsysguy      ahh
17:49 cait           if you enter a comment
17:49 cait           this is a bug
17:49 cait           no
17:49 libsysguy      so this isn't pushed yet?
17:48 rangi          i was pretty sure
17:48 rangi          yeah
17:47 oleonard       "if moderation is turned on"
17:47 oleonard       "When you enter a comment, it goes into moderation if moderation is turned on."
17:47 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2431 major, P3, ---, chris, RESOLVED FIXED, Bug with Comments Moderation when Editing
17:47 oleonard       Wait, Bug 2431
17:47 wizzyrea       library anywhere is how NEKLS does it
17:47 libsysguy      hehe
17:47 magnuse        at least it's how wizzyrea does mobile ;-)
17:46 libsysguy      is that the way koha does mobile?
17:46 oleonard       I think maybe moderation was added without giving the option of turning it off
17:46 libsysguy      was just looking at that
17:46 magnuse        libsysguy: http://www.librarything.com/
17:46 rangi          shouldn't be hard to put back
17:46 cait           no match
17:46 cait           I tried moder*, comment and review
17:46 libsysguy      what is library thing?
17:46 rangi          and before tags
17:46 rangi          back when it was reviews
17:45 cait           you can have different mechanism for tag approval, not sure about comments
17:45 rangi          hmm there def used to be
17:45 libsysguy      ^^
17:45 wizzyrea       yea, i'm not seeing a pref for "no moderation"
17:45 * magnuse      can't see it either - just reviewson, ShowReviewer, ShowReviewerPhoto
17:45 cait           hm.
17:45 cait           I know you can turn it off for tags
17:44 * oleonard     just was, doesn't see it
17:44 rangi          there is a syspref
17:44 rangi          look for reviews
17:44 libsysguy      HI druthb
17:43 * druthb       waves to libsysguy.
17:43 libsysguy      nothing relivant when i search for 'comment'
17:43 libsysguy      but I can't find it
17:43 libsysguy      yeah i was looking for one
17:43 libsysguy      hmm
17:43 wizzyrea       i think there's a syspref for require moderation
17:43 cait           not sure it's possible
17:43 cait           hmm
17:42 libsysguy      anybody know how i could disable comment approval?
17:42 libsysguy      hey #Koha
17:40 cait           but I would have wished for this day to be a bit less interesting
17:40 cait           you can say that
17:39 magnuse        but has not managed to keep up with the list so far...
17:39 * magnuse      thinks we live in interesting times...
17:38 * jcamins      is waiting for the cliff's notes.
17:38 cait           I wil wait for the book
17:38 cait           nope
17:37 wizzyrea       some
17:37 huginn         sekjal: *click*
17:37 sekjal         @roulette
17:37 magnuse        y'all following the discussion on "Bibliographic Framework Transition Initiative Forum" http://listserv.loc.gov/cgi-bin/wa?A0=BIBFRAME ?
17:37 magnuse        cait: not bad, got some work done on the library history wiki...
17:37 * cait         is a zombie now
17:37 cait           how was your day magnuse?
17:37 huginn         magnuse: *click*
17:37 magnuse        @roulette
17:36 huginn         *SPIN* Are you feeling lucky?
17:36 magnuse        @roulette spin
17:36 cait           finally
17:36 * huginn       reloads and spins the chambers.
17:36 huginn         *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
17:36 cait           @roulette
17:36 huginn         cait: (roulette [spin]) -- Fires the revolver. If the bullet was in the chamber, you're dead. Tell me to spin the chambers and I will.
17:36 cait           @roulette !
17:36 huginn         cait: *click*
17:36 cait           @roulette
17:36 wizzyrea       these things are multiplying!
17:36 huginn         cait: *click*
17:36 cait           @roulette
17:36 cait           grrr
17:36 huginn         cait: *click*
17:35 cait           @roulette
17:35 magnuse        nah, it was old and worn
17:34 druthb         poor magnuse!
17:34 druthb         hehehe
17:34 magnuse        oy!
17:34 * wizzyrea     snatches the gun from magnuse and adds it to her collection
17:34 wizzyrea       i'm gonna have a collection.
17:34 druthb         lol
17:34 wizzyrea       s/dro/dry
17:34 * wizzyrea     tosses it in the quick dro concrete
17:34 magnuse        blanks++
17:33 * huginn       reloads and spins the chambers.
17:33 huginn         *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
17:33 magnuse        @roulette
17:33 * druthb       hands it to wizzy
17:33 * druthb       takes the gun from cait
17:33 cait           yeah, this day really...
17:33 huginn         cait: *click*
17:33 cait           @roulette
17:33 huginn         cait: *click*
17:33 cait           @roulette
17:33 magnuse        blanks++
17:33 * wizzyrea     hrmphs
17:32 cait           lol
17:32 * huginn       reloads and spins the chambers.
17:32 huginn         *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
17:32 magnuse        @roulette
17:32 huginn         cait: *click*
17:32 cait           @roulette
17:31 wizzyrea       and tosses it in some quick dry concrete.
17:31 druthb         !
17:31 * wizzyrea     takes the gun away from druthb
17:31 huginn         druthb: *click*
17:31 druthb         @roulette
17:31 druthb         dang.
17:31 huginn         druthb: *click*
17:31 druthb         @roulette
17:30 huginn         druthb: *click*
17:30 druthb         @roulette
17:30 wizzyrea       are you channelling sir mix a lot?
17:30 wizzyrea       lol
17:30 oleonard       -ons++
17:30 oleonard       huge butt
17:28 wizzyrea       it makes the button huge but... oh well.
17:27 oleonard       wizzyrea++
17:27 wizzyrea       oleonard: i changed the wording back as suggested on 6323
17:22 rhcl           turkeyburgers
17:17 Oak            good that it's better...
17:16 sekjal         a little better, but still there
17:16 Oak            how is the cough sekjal
17:12 Oak            hmm
17:12 jcamins        I don't anticipate it will make that much of a difference, but every little bit helps.
17:12 Oak            ah, i was about to write "that's good". not anymore.
17:11 jcamins        And the entire place coated with poison.
17:11 jcamins        Yup.
17:11 Oak            ooh, the roach problem. cracks filled?
17:10 * Oak          just says random silly things
17:10 Oak            :]
17:09 Oak            good
17:09 jcamins        No.
17:09 Oak            ah, not marijuana
17:09 jcamins        I don't _really_ have use of my kitchen.
17:08 jcamins        Oak: yeah, for cooking in.
17:08 jcamins        And preferably isn't dal, because at some point Shari is going to get fed up with me making dal and just throw it in my face when I serve it to her again.
17:08 Oak            pot?
17:08 * jcamins      tries to come up with a fast and easy idea for lunch and dinner that doesn't require more than one pot, or anything he doesn't have on hand.
17:08 Oak            ladybug is having dinner
17:07 Oak            hello wizzyrea :)
17:07 druthb         Hi, Oak and wizzyrea!
17:07 wizzyrea       hi ruth
17:07 Oak            hello druthb :)
17:02 Oak            good :)
17:02 cait           having dinner right now :)
17:01 Oak            had dinner?
17:01 cait           hello Oak :)
17:01 Oak            hello cait at home :)
16:30 * dpavlin      wants to thank everyone at KohaCon for great time! Off to airport in few hours...
16:22 reiveune       bye
16:20 kf             oleonard++
16:20 * jcamins      waves to the KohaConners again.
16:18 wizzyrea       *nod*
16:18 jcamins        oleonard++ # his Twitter is very entertaining.
16:14 * chris_n      learns the 'exec' command by trial and error :-/
16:12 oleonard       the computer's gel-packs got the sneezles.
16:12 kf             sun spots?
16:11 wizzyrea       someone scrubbed out the EPS conduits.
15:57 oleonard       they must have gotten the Trans-Warp Terminal back online.
15:56 oleonard       Aaaand... we're back.
15:55 oleonard       Idea: pass results of guided reports directly to bulk operations like item edit, item delete, list and cart creation.
15:53 wizzyrea       but, then again, i gave it a tincture of bat ears and eye of newt.
15:53 * wizzyrea     has never had any messy breakages of OpenDNS
15:51 slef           OpenDNS breaks messily IME
15:39 jcamins        Totally Weird Transitory issue?
15:37 wizzyrea       that is an acronym even I don't know
15:35 jcamins        Traveling-wave tube.
15:32 oleonard       What the hell is a TWT issue? Some twit broke the internet?
15:32 oleonard       Response from upstream, "I think it's a TWT issue we're working on ATM; 95% sure it's not your problem"
15:18 wizzyrea       weird.
15:18 oleonard       We are using OpenDNS too. No DNS setup on my machine
15:18 wizzyrea       you can try putting google or another DNS resolver in
15:17 wizzyrea       i wonder if the server you are using for your resolver has changed or is down
15:17 wizzyrea       oleonard, do you have control over the DNS settings on your own machine?
15:16 wizzyrea       amazons are working for me
15:16 wizzyrea       oh hm
15:15 oleonard       also down for me, oddly enough, Amazon cover images. Or is that an API change kicking in?
15:14 * wizzyrea     misunderstood
15:14 wizzyrea       nm then
15:14 wizzyrea       lol o
15:13 jcamins        downforeveryoneorjustme is down for me. myacpl is up.
15:13 wizzyrea       naw, the DNS cache for just your domain -- they've mucked something up at your DNS host
15:13 * oleonard     rushes to get his day's worth of internet surfing done
15:13 wizzyrea       for resolving
15:13 wizzyrea       still up from here, we use OpenDNS
15:12 wizzyrea       i bet the DNS cache is expiring
15:12 jcamins        It's down for me, too, BTW
15:10 jcamins        oleonard: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/downforeveryoneorjustme.com :P
15:05 wizzyrea       ;)
15:05 wizzyrea       precisely
15:05 oleonard       they hate our freedom *and* our wide selection of picture books
15:04 jcamins        The bug report, not the Iranians going after the Kansas libraries (and why did they do that?).
15:03 jcamins        wizzyrea: awesome!
15:01 wizzyrea       best bug report ever: http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/boingboing/iBag/~3/dxZuQbH9zGI/bug-report-simultaneous-cat-and-external-keyboard-input-causing-kernel-panic.html
14:56 wizzyrea       that was... late 2009 I guess.
14:55 * oleonard     doesn't remember that!
14:55 wizzyrea       (I wish that were a joke)
14:55 * wizzyrea     remembers the iranians who went after kansas libraries, shudders.
14:54 wizzyrea       "muppet arming"
14:54 oleonard       Anonymous has struck, and is taking down high profile targets like Ohio public libraries!
14:54 wizzyrea       might just be the end of the world
14:54 * jcamins      runs around waving his hands in the air in a disturbed fashion.
14:54 wizzyrea       well we did have earthquakes in Kansas this weekend.
14:54 jcamins        It's the end of the Internet!
14:53 jcamins        oleonard: also, apparently lots of unrelated IRC networks are experiencing netsplits today.
14:53 oleonard       ...but I was able to connect to one of our sites earlier this morning
14:52 oleonard       We had some people doing some checking of our internal network over the weekend
14:52 jcamins        oleonard: could also be a misconfigured internal view.
14:52 oleonard       Thanks for checking everyone
14:49 wizzyrea       so maybe they did some maintenance at the state where your DNS is hosted?
14:49 wizzyrea       mostly mismatches between nsx.ohio.gov vs nsx.state.oh.us
14:48 wizzyrea       )
14:48 wizzyrea       (yes, that takes ages to load.
14:48 wizzyrea       http://www.dnssy.com/report.php?q=myacpl.org
14:48 wizzyrea       hmm, some problems here
14:47 trea           ping by name vs ping by IP
14:47 trea           dns problem perhaps?
14:47 wizzyrea       can you ping it?
14:46 * oleonard     wonders why it doesn't work for him
14:46 wizzyrea       oleonard: works from here
14:45 * oleonard     grumbles
14:45 alex_a         it works oleonard
14:45 rhcl           I was just there...on now actually
14:45 trea           ^^
14:45 jcamins        Works for me.
14:44 oleonard       Could someone please try to access http://www.myacpl.org and tell me if it works?
14:40 kf             sorry meeting
14:40 kf             oleonard: makes sense
14:37 huginn         New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6752] Be stricter with utf-8 output <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6752>
14:37 oleonard       Javascript is required for interactions with clicks
14:37 oleonard       No, not as far as I know
14:36 kf             they don't react to clicks?
14:35 oleonard       The primary disadvantage of CSS menus as I see it is that they pop up whether you meant to hover over them or not
14:34 kf             I think it was probably the easiest way to do pull downs, but things might have changed with new options in browsers and such now
14:34 oleonard       We didn't vote on it or anything, it was my decision.
14:34 hdl            kf: neither do I remember it has ever been discussed somewhere that we should use yui for buttons.
14:33 hdl            kf: I am not expert either. just wanted to say there could be solutions to make that work well only with css.
14:32 hdl            or this http://purecssmenu.com/
14:32 kf             I am not sure why we chose to do it with yui in the past and what the limitations/requirements are
14:31 kf             hdl: I think it's interesting, but I am not an expert here :(
14:30 hdl            This link is also a ressource in order not to use javascript to build up menus.
14:29 hdl            http://oreilly.com/pub/a/javascript/2001/03/23/rollovers.html
14:28 kf             hm I see on the screenshots they are workign with ie.. perhaps worth a try in firefox?
14:27 kf             they write that the pull down will not open for them - it does on the screenshots, I think they mean that the reader does not see it perhaps
14:26 kf             oleonard: the example they printed for me is about the edit, save and new buttons on the catalog detail page in staff
14:26 kf             and the other problem I got told is the pull down menu buttons
14:26 kf             which of course makes it hard to find out which indicator belongs to what
14:25 hdl            kf: or this one : http://www.tutofr.com/tutoriaux/menu-deroulant-css/mise_en_page_4.php
14:25 kf             apparently it reads all indicators (the column) and the fields after that
14:25 kf             one problem is the reading sequence in cataloging
14:25 kf             I have a new library with a blind staff member, using braille line and jaws as a screen reader
14:24 kf             I had no time before my vacation to investigage - as soon as I can I will give you an update
14:24 oleonard       kf: I would like to know more about the accessibility problems you've heard about
14:24 kf             I was only hoping we could make the change happen sometime soon
14:24 kf             I think owen has the best overview of the elements used and what we need to replace
14:23 hdl            http://cssmenumaker.com/
14:22 kf             which seems to be aproblem with yui
14:22 hdl            kf: we could be using menus with css and not use any js for that.
14:22 kf             I would like to kill those buttons (in hope for better accessibility)
14:21 kf             or menus
14:21 kf             hard to believe there is no solution at all for buttons
14:21 kf             is there something else people are using perhaps?
14:21 magnuse        keeping_things_simple++
14:21 kf             yeah
14:21 oleonard       (at least I would prefer to, to keep things simple)
14:21 kf             hmm
14:21 oleonard       ...but I then we'll need to switch to the jQuery-native version when it becomes available
14:20 oleonard       It may be getting to the point where we should do that. I didn't realize until I started writing that email that I'd been maintaining the branch for almost a year now
14:20 kf             is the problem pull down buttons basically? and split buttons?
14:20 kf             is there another way we could do menus with jquery than using the widget? perhaps writing our 'own' widget?
14:20 oleonard       Still YUI
14:19 kf             is the alpha widget for menus included there? or still using yui then?
14:19 kf             a question about your yui replacement branch
14:19 kf             hi oleonard
14:19 kf             save... :)
14:18 oleonard_      space_travels++
14:17 magnuse        kf: s/sace/space/ ? ;-)
14:12 kf             nice dinner and sace travels paul_away
14:02 magnuse        have a nice dinner!
14:02 magnuse        yay
14:02 magnuse        wow, that's a nice time to take off!
14:02 paul_p         really a *great* KohaCon and time in india !
14:01 paul_p         hi magnuse ! we are heading for dinner now. Then... back to France ! (take-off at 3AM... ouch...)
14:01 magnuse        namaste kmkale and paul_p
13:53 * oleonard     can now see what "P5" means and still doesn't know what difference priority makes
13:35 magnuse        pootle only says 2% translated, though...
13:34 magnuse        that's very cool!
13:32 druthb         I'm told a lot of progress was made on the Marathi translation, which is something they need here.
13:29 oleonard       It's such a treat to get together in the same room... hard to reproduce that productivity virtually.
13:28 druthb         it seemed to be very productive.  Ian wasn't satisfied--he wanted more done, of course.  But it went well, and the bunch of learners and translators here was just awesome.
13:27 magnuse        and i have ~200 unread *threads* from the bugs mailing list etc...
13:26 jcamins        oleonard: yeah, there are almost as many bugs needing sign off as there were before the hackfest. ;)
13:25 oleonard       bugzilla tells me hackfest was productive
13:24 druthb         we fly out of Mumbai tomorrow night, local, landing at Newark Wednesday morning...then I'm in the air much of the day, to get back to Nashville via Milwaukee.
13:23 oleonard       druthb: When do you come back?
13:20 magnuse        o/
13:19 jcamins        \o
13:18 druthb         o/
13:16 magnuse        Oak
13:16 Oak            magnuse
13:15 Oak            Kavinsky - Nightcall http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV_3Dpw-BRY&ob=av2e
13:13 magnuse        ooh, PerlCritic on FLOSS Weekly: http://twit.tv/show/floss-weekly/189
12:48 * magnuse      waves
12:48 kf             bye :)
12:47 * eythian      will be boarding soon, cya later
12:47 eythian        Also, Singapore airlines is also pretty great
12:44 kf             save travels :)
12:44 kf             ah ok
12:44 kf             next time I fly to nz - singapore hehe
12:44 eythian        But, this time I'm only here for an hour or so, so it was straight to the next gate.
12:43 eythian        They do.
12:43 kf             eythian: I bet they have showers too
12:43 kf             eythian: sounds pretty nice
12:41 eythian        If you're here for several hours, you can do a tour of Singapore too
12:41 eythian        Has a movie theatre, swimming poll, etc.
12:41 eythian        It is. If you have to spend time in transit, this is the place to do it.
12:40 jcamins        eythian: I've heard that Singapore airport is pretty great. Is that true?
12:39 * eythian      is now waiting in Singapore for the long part of the trip home.
12:32 jcamins        NateC: I've been married for over a year. Goodness how time flies!
12:24 NateC          wow its been a year since then!
12:24 NateC          nope when I saw you in NZ I was getting ready to propose
12:23 * hdl          thought it had been done way before.
12:23 kf             :)
12:23 NateC          thanks hdl
12:23 NateC          but we had to come back to SNOW!!!!
12:23 hdl            congrats NateC
12:22 NateC          it was niiice
12:22 NateC          Antigua
12:22 kf             where have you been to?
12:22 jcamins        Yeah, but I don't recall speaking to you since then. I've hardly been around at normal times.
12:22 NateC          but thanks!! :D
12:22 NateC          we got married in September
12:22 NateC          been out for awhile, we finally got to take our honeymoon
12:21 jcamins        :P
12:21 jcamins        NateC: didn't you get married or something?
12:21 NateC          Hi kf!
12:21 kf             morning NateC :)
12:21 NateC          but what for :)?
12:20 NateC          Thanks jcamins
12:20 jcamins        NateC: congratulations!
12:19 NateC          (that second one was in the wrong window :)
12:19 NateC          Morning!
12:19 NateC          Morning Everyone
12:01 jcamins        Back to work?
12:01 jcamins        Morning.
11:58 kf             morning jared
11:58 kf             yay :)
11:56 jcamins_away   Yay! KohaCon12 in Edinburgh!
11:04 kf             cool :)
10:48 slef           as soon as we have it fixed, even
10:48 slef           yeah, as soon as we have it public, we'll announce dates as widely as we can and call for sponsorships
10:47 kf             it's murphy's law or something
10:47 kf             you can't prevent that
10:47 slef           happen like always = we clash with stuff?
10:47 kf             once you have the dates set... someone else chooses to have an event on those dates
10:47 kf             and it will happen like always
10:47 kf             not sure we have to worry about THATcamp
10:46 kf1            now it maeks sense
10:46 slef           kf1: I've done that at least once while planning!
10:45 kf1            ah, looking at the wrong year...
10:45 slef           kf1: depends how accurate their dates are :)
10:45 kf1            for tu/we/th it would not overlap I think?
10:44 kf1            no idea
10:44 slef           It would overlap with THATCamp. Anyone know what that is?
10:44 kf1            oh, SWIB is listed there
10:43 slef           That's what I'm thinking. I'm just checking http://digital-conferences-calendar.info/ to see what we'd clash with.
10:42 kf1            perhaps a bit harder for the conf
10:42 kf1            I thik perhaps the latter? for the hackfet people will not mind staying for the weekend
10:42 kf1            hmm
10:42 slef           We just can't do Mo/Tu/We.
10:41 slef           The big decision is whether to put the conference Fr/Sa/Su or Tu/We/Th :-/
10:41 * kf1          is practically counting the days... to june
10:41 kf1            was wondering if I can ask... or better not to
10:41 kf1            yay
10:41 slef           nailing down kohacon12 at last
10:41 kf1            hi slef :)
10:40 slef           hi all
09:33 Amit_Gupta     heya anadalogoy
08:38 hdl            hi Amit_Gupta
08:29 Amit_Gupta     heya hdl
08:19 hdl            hi all
08:19 kf             hi #koha :)
08:19 magnuse        hiya kf and hdl
08:11 reiveune       :)
08:11 reiveune       hello magnus and everybody
08:09 magnuse        bonjour clrh et reiveune
07:54 clrh           hello
07:44 cait           bbiab
07:44 BobB           hey slef - are you about?
07:43 magnuse        yay
07:42 cait           magnuse: always the optimist :)
07:36 Amit_Gupta     heya alex_a
07:31 magnuse        only ~8 months 'til kohacon12!
07:28 magnuse        morgen cait
07:27 cait           morning magnuse
07:26 magnuse        hiya alex_a and Amit_Gupta
07:25 Amit_Gupta     heya magnuse
07:25 alex_a         hi #koha
07:25 magnuse        hiya BobB
07:22 BobB           hi magnuse
07:22 huginn         magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 10.0�C (7:50 AM CET on November 07, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady).
07:22 magnuse        @wunder boo
07:21 magnuse        namaskar #koha
07:08 cait           we get more days like this, but not many more warm days now
07:08 cait           I think I would make the deal
07:08 BobB           cait I will swap you.  High humidity with low temperature is easier to take.  :)
07:06 huginn         cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 8.5�C (8:00 AM CET on November 07, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Windchill: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1013.8 hPa (Rising).
07:06 cait           @wunder Konstanz
07:06 Amit_Gupta     aah!
07:05 huginn         BobB: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 21.0�C (5:30 PM EST on November 07, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
07:05 BobB           @wunder Sydney New South Wales
07:05 BobB           No we are home.  We left Mumbai on Sunday morning and arrived very early in Sydney this morning.
07:04 Amit_Gupta     BobB: you are travelling
07:04 BobB           Hi Amit Gupta
07:03 Amit_Gupta     heya dpavlin
07:03 Amit_Gupta     heya BobB
06:47 cait           :)
06:47 * Oak          goes back to True Believer
06:37 Oak            kia ora #koha
06:37 cait           hi Oak :)
06:37 Oak            hello cait :)
06:27 cait           save travels :)
06:19 BobB           Travel well.
06:17 * dpavlin      plans to make last Thane tour before leaving tonigh (after sleep without alaram clock - precious)
06:13 BobB           kmkale about?
06:12 * BobB         is in Sydney with dreadful jet lag  :(
06:12 BobB           Is anyone still in Thane?
06:11 BobB           hi mumbaikers
06:01 Amit_Gupta     :D
05:52 cait           :)
05:52 cait           hi Amit_Gupta
05:52 Amit_Gupta     heya cait
05:52 cait           morning #koha
05:29 huginn         New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6504] no way to enter shipping price in acq <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6504>
04:59 kmkale         hi Amit_Gupta
04:45 Amit_Gupta     heya kmkale
04:37 Amit_Gupta     heya andandology
04:28 Amit_Gupta     heya paul_p
03:46 Oak            :)
03:45 Oak            uh oh. all good things...
03:45 Amit_Gupta     Oak : finally return from kohacon
03:45 Oak            kia ora #koha
03:44 Oak            hello rangi :-)
03:44 Oak            heya Amit_Gupta :)
03:44 rangi          hi Oak
03:44 Amit_Gupta     heya Oak
03:44 * Oak          waves
03:35 rangi          hi Amit_Gupta
03:33 Amit_Gupta     Good morning koha
03:33 Amit_Gupta     heya chris
03:15 rangi          sheesh
03:14 rangi          then come back
03:14 rangi          maybe read
03:13 Small          i'll comeback later
03:12 Small          aborted on line 6 of rebuild_zebra.PL
03:11 Small          zebra_lock_create fail
03:11 Small          the script fails
03:11 Small          th script fails
03:08 Small          it says use -b or - a to run
03:08 Small          nevermind
03:08 Small          oops
03:08 Small          oh
03:07 Small          it says that the file / directory is not there
03:06 * rangi        goes back to what he is being paid to do now
03:06 Small          it is there
03:06 rangi          run it if it is
03:06 Small          i am there
03:06 rangi          see if rebuild_zebra.pl is in there
03:06 rangi          look in bin/migration_tools/
03:06 Small          same thing :p what were "we" looking for?
03:06 * rangi        is trying to work
03:06 rangi          you were
03:06 rangi          i wasnt
03:06 Small          what were you looking for?
03:06 Small          now i am in it
03:05 Small          ok
03:05 rangi          if that is where you were before then yes
03:05 Small          so, usr/share/koha
03:05 rangi          in the directory you were in before
03:05 Small          sorry, im thinking about 2 things at same time
03:05 rangi          bin/
03:05 Small          oh, what did you say?
03:04 rangi          i never said /bin
03:04 Small          what?
03:04 rangi          not /bin
03:04 Small          there is no migration tools in the /bin directory
03:02 Small          oops
03:02 Small          oh
03:00 Small          says file directory not found, and i spelled it right\
03:00 Small          its not letting me go in it
02:59 rangi          is rebuild_zebra.pl in there?
02:59 Small          are you looking for a file in that?
02:59 Small          that is there
02:58 Small          there is that
02:58 rangi          ls bin/migration_tools
02:57 rangi          with the misc dir
02:57 rangi          in the dir, that you were just in
02:57 Small          is there a specific file your looking for?
02:57 Small          i have a missing package, for java, and it errors downloading offline
02:57 Small          arg
02:55 Small          just a sec
02:55 Small          this one has alot
02:55 Small          im going to join on the computer running the scripts
02:55 rangi          ls -l bin/
02:55 Small          exept all my searches are broken
02:55 Small          everything works
02:54 Small          what would a non-standard install do?
02:54 Small          im pretty sure
02:54 rangi          and you are utterly sure you did a standard install?
02:54 Small          total 8
02:53 Small          koha-install-log           translator
02:53 rangi          ls -l misc
02:53 Small          :(
02:53 Small          ls: cannot access misc/migration_tools/: No such file or directory
02:52 Small          ok
02:52 rangi          ls -l misc/migration_tools/
02:52 Small          :(
02:51 Small          misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl: command not found
02:51 Small          ok
02:51 rangi          not .PL
02:51 rangi          .pl
02:49 Small          misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.PL: command not found
02:49 Small          ok
02:49 rangi          try with .pl on the end
02:48 Small          yes it does
02:48 rangi          does whatever directory you are in have a misc dir in it? if not, you aren't in the right place
02:47 huginn         New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6210] Choose framework on Merge <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6210>
02:47 Small          misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra: command not found
02:46 Small          hold on
02:46 Small          ok
02:46 rangi          wherever your koha installed is where you need to run it
02:46 rangi          then probably /usr/share/koha
02:46 Small          standard
02:45 rangi          did you chose standard or dev install ?
02:45 Small          in the home folder? in system root?
02:45 Small          well, where do i run that script
02:45 rangi          what directory do you mean?
02:44 Small          but what folder do i have to run it from?
02:44 rangi          right so you must be in the wrong directory
02:44 Small          but what folder do i have to run it from?
02:44 Small          i did
02:44 rangi          you have to change ${KOHA_USER} to be the actual koha user
02:44 Small          well, i filled in KOHA_USER
02:44 rangi          and that wont work
02:44 rangi          in which directory?
02:43 Small          $ sudo -u ${KOHA_USER} misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra -z -b -a
02:43 rangi          what exactly are you typing?
02:43 rangi          what folder
02:43 Small          it says that the files does not exist
02:43 Small          they are not in the folder
02:43 wahanui        not are they just not ratbags
02:43 rangi          not where?
02:42 Small          but when i run the rebuild_zebra script, it is not there
02:42 Small          well, i read the things on zebra
02:37 Small          ok
02:37 rangi          http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=INSTALL.ubuntu;h=2bedddcd2ac722eeadd5273f7ef705917e8f591d;hb=ee0627f20bee5df234ab284d1fdacebb857de57f#l299  in the INSTALL.ubuntu file that comes with Koha, there is INSTALL.debian and many others, i suggest you read at least one of them
02:27 Small          i have looked on wiki ad theres nothing there
02:27 Small          CAN SOMEONE HELP ME!!!!!
02:18 Small          ARGGG
02:16 Small          Can you help?
02:16 Small          I need help with zebra
02:14 Small          So nobody knows how to start the zebrasrv?
02:12 Small          hmm
02:12 wahanui        Small: i'm not following you...
02:12 Small          wahanui: how to start zebra
02:11 Small          anybody
02:06 Small          I think i just need to start it, but i dont know how to
02:06 Small          I need help with zebra
01:55 rangi          heh
01:53 jcamins_away   Totally over-rated.
01:52 rangi          :)
01:52 rangi          also i can't use apostrophes right
01:51 rangi          and i could spend years trying to get openvpn ported to android ... but lif'es too short :)
01:51 jcamins_away   Ah, yeah, that'd be a problem.
01:51 rangi          so that wont work ;)
01:51 rangi          yeah you cant ssh to my workstation outside of the internal network
01:50 * jcamins_away just uses connectbot.
01:50 rangi          i used to, but bip makes it easier to connect without having to vpn in ... which is easier to do on the phone
01:49 * druthb       is usually here when she's here, and not when she's not.
01:49 * jcamins_away just runs irssi in screen.
01:49 rangi          but i also run bip
01:48 rangi          i run irssi in screen on my workstation at work
01:48 rangi          heh
01:47 * jcamins_away was told that it was old-fashioned to run irssi in screen.
01:47 jcamins_away   Woohoo! Someone else "old fashioned"!
01:42 druthb         me figures out what she's gonna wear the next two days, and for the plane ride home...
01:39 trea           hi rangi
01:38 rangi          heya trea
01:38 rangi          or bip
01:38 rangi          im betting he runs screen like me :)
01:38 trea           hiya
01:38 rangi          heya druthb
01:38 druthb         heh.  he left hisself logged in then.  Hi, rangi and BobB and trea!
01:36 rangi          druthb:  idle     : 0 days 9 hours 59 mins 51 secs  :-) not so much up
01:14 druthb         dpavlin, you're up early!