Time Nick Message 23:59 moodaepo Small_2: Are you using the "Live CD (No Install Option)"? 23:54 * Small_2 is using the koha live cd, he doesn't know the user 23:52 Small_2 i sortof dont know the user though :/ 23:52 Small_2 ok 23:51 moodaepo As Judit mentioned you should be running it as the user that runs koha 23:50 Small_2 what is this> 23:50 moodaepo Small_2: http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.com/Cron-Failing-KOHAPATH-bin-migration-tools-rebuild-zebra-pl-a-td4654545.html 23:48 Small Anyone else? 23:48 Small Anyone else/ 23:47 Small hmm 23:47 Judit sorry Small, no i dont 23:46 Small do you know why? 23:45 Small :( 23:44 Small nope, diffrent now 23:44 Small BEGIN failed--complication aborted at rebuild_zebra.pl line 6. 23:44 Judit same error? 23:44 Small now when i reindex i get an error 23:43 Small i remember 23:43 Small ok 23:40 Small is there anyway to find out? 23:40 Small i have lots of usernames, i forget wich one was for koha 23:40 Small i forget wich is my koha user 23:40 Small 3.06 23:38 Judit which koha is it? 23:37 Small ok 23:36 Judit i would try to run the command as koha user 23:36 Judit i dont relly know, sorry 23:34 Small yes 23:34 Judit are you root? 23:34 Small but with the options, it errors command not found 23:33 Small the file is there 23:33 Small yes, and it said command not found 23:32 Judit did you try do rebulit zebra? 23:31 Small They broke after upgrade 23:31 Small all of my searches are broken, and it is installed 23:31 Small i need help starting zebra, or fixing it 23:21 Judit hi 23:11 libsysguy ahh 23:10 rangi accountno + borrowernumber = key 23:10 libsysguy can anybody tell me what accountno is used for in accountlines 23:10 rangi can you buy custard powder in the us? 23:09 rangi :-) 23:07 wizzyrea i've gotta go get custard (well pudding really) the spud requires fish sticks and custard. (doctor who fans will get the reference) 23:07 wizzyrea anyway 23:06 rangi yup 23:06 wizzyrea and people were doing that -- see the koha-scripts thing 23:06 rangi smaller and leaner, not bigger and bloated ;) 23:06 rangi and ppl can do their mad shit outside of koha :) 23:06 wizzyrea *nod* 23:06 rangi i want to do more of the webservicey stuff (like above) 23:06 rangi personally 23:05 rangi it would have to be managed well 23:05 rangi yup 23:04 wizzyrea but sometimes they do glorious things too. 23:04 wizzyrea sometimes 23:04 * wizzyrea points to the strange and weird things that wordpress plugins do 23:03 wizzyrea well yes 23:02 rangi but that could get messy fast 23:02 rangi it kinda would 22:32 wizzyrea or maybe I don't understand, which is always a possibility 22:32 wizzyrea you wanna tack on a table for unique management? Ok! It's an option! 22:31 wizzyrea kinda like plugins. 22:31 wizzyrea hm, one other thing that the proposed changes to updatedatabase would allow, is allowing optional database components 21:56 libsysguy the group was weird 21:56 libsysguy sorry 21:56 libsysguy there is one above it that gets patrons with fines over $10 21:55 libsysguy right 21:55 wizzyrea well, that particular query looks at a single patron 21:54 libsysguy Select *, format(sum(amountoutstanding),2) as fine from accountlines where borrowernumber = 6744 group by itemnumber having fine > 0.00 and (Select count(*) from issues where accountlines.itemnumber = issues.itemnumber group by issues.itemnumber) > 0; 21:54 libsysguy if I wanted to run a query of all patrons with fines over $10 and the item was still checked out do you think this would work 21:41 libsysguy aww thanks cait :) 21:41 * cait sends cookies 21:40 libsysguy im just throwing that out there 21:40 libsysguy notices are going to drive me crazy 21:29 cait :( 21:29 cait conf is already over : 21:28 rhcl If I was in India I'd be out walking the streets. You can always sleep during presentations. 21:23 wizzyrea or something 21:23 wizzyrea it's like 3am in india. 21:23 rangi heh 21:23 wizzyrea he better be in bed. 21:23 huginn rhcl: sekjal was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 50 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: * sekjal disppears 21:23 rhcl @seen sekjal 21:13 oleonard bye all 21:02 rhcl http://www.jumpbox.com/app/dspace 21:00 libsysguy oh...I didn't know that...probably would have made my life easier not having to hunt for the java jdk 20:59 rhcl there are prebuild images 20:59 rangi with a passion 20:59 rangi i hate tomcat 20:58 libsysguy why oh why tomcat 20:58 libsysguy its just a pain to install 20:57 rhcl dspace works for me 20:42 libsysguy voted 20:42 wizzyrea so vote for that to get silent printing in chrome 20:41 wizzyrea https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=31395 20:41 libsysguy also if anyone ever asks you if you want to try out dpsace just tell them no 20:40 libsysguy I can't get it to work at all 20:40 wizzyrea you just can't auto print silent 20:40 wizzyrea well printing works 20:40 libsysguy which is a tragety 20:40 wizzyrea ^^ 20:40 wizzyrea VV that is why 20:40 libsysguy but printing doesn't work there 20:40 wizzyrea can't do that 20:39 libsysguy well I'd say use Chrome 20:38 wizzyrea (yes, my creativity is failing me) 20:38 wizzyrea especially with the frequency of updates 20:38 wizzyrea making them reconfigure every time is getting a bit old 20:37 wizzyrea I'm trying to think of a way to either script or generate the right settings so it's a one click thing for my libraries 20:37 wizzyrea anyone have any thoughts on the problem of losing printer settings after a firefox update? 20:35 cait yeah.... I can imagine that 20:35 cait ah 20:34 oleonard the back button will be hidden under a pile of books next to your chair 20:31 cait where are they moving things this time? 20:30 rangi *sigh* 20:30 wizzyrea lordie firefox 8 20:14 kathryn No news, just hi : ) 20:13 wizzyrea hi! 20:13 kathryn hey wizzyrea just to say hi to you too! 20:09 cait :) 20:09 cait magic 20:09 rangi almost :) 20:09 rangi well, i have to add caching and public option and write the public script, but yeah 20:08 wizzyrea oh snizzle. 20:08 rangi oh look, im finished 20:08 kathryn morning cait : ) 20:08 rangi use JSON; 20:08 rangi its so hard! 20:08 rangi to_json(\@lines); 20:07 * cait waves at kathryn 20:07 wizzyrea ohsnap 20:07 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/progress.pl?type=json 20:07 rangi vs 20:07 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/progress.pl 20:07 wizzyrea silly. 20:07 rangi i know how to do it already see 20:07 wizzyrea slily. 20:07 wizzyrea not *literally* silily 20:07 rangi heh 20:06 * jcamins watches 20:03 rangi so yeah, watch this space 20:02 rangi and its not even that hard to do 20:01 cait :) 20:00 rangi ftw 20:00 rangi webservices 20:00 rangi yeah 20:00 wizzyrea that's a whole new section in the recipe book :) 20:00 cait I leave you alone for a minute... and I miss all that? 20:00 wizzyrea love the idea that it's based on a report 19:59 wizzyrea hehe 19:59 rangi not anymore its noT! 19:59 wahanui new books is a tough one 19:59 rangi new books 19:59 rangi yes 19:59 wizzyrea just to see the stuff that was added yesterday 19:59 rangi and then use jquery to make it display 19:59 wizzyrea there is no reason to click a button to execute a n entire search 19:59 rangi and then you just craft a report to return the JSON you want 19:59 wizzyrea yea 19:58 wizzyrea or hours 19:58 rangi or 3 days 19:58 rangi or 0 19:58 rangi or 10 19:58 rangi cache for 20 mins 19:58 rangi also, have an option 19:58 * wizzyrea begs for that 19:58 rangi ajax the results into the opac 19:58 rangi and thus 19:58 rangi why not make them available public, with an option 19:58 rangi BUT 19:58 rangi originally for the staff dashboard 19:57 wizzyrea oh I like where your head's at 19:57 rangi to allow it to hand back, xml and/or json 19:57 rangi is extend reports 19:57 rangi because the plan for that 19:57 rangi i think this is actually heading where i am wanting to do some work before the academy 19:57 wizzyrea ;) 19:57 * wizzyrea sulks 19:57 rangi well 19:57 wizzyrea FINE 19:57 * rangi giggles 19:56 wizzyrea *sob* 19:56 rangi hehehe 19:56 rangi no 19:56 wizzyrea let me explain 19:56 wizzyrea no availability 19:56 wizzyrea is a minimal result search 19:56 wizzyrea what I think I'm really wanting 19:55 wizzyrea right 19:55 rangi but the problem is, availability changes 19:55 rangi but with memcached, could easily cache it 19:55 rangi not yet 19:54 wizzyrea let's say, for recent acquisitions 19:54 wizzyrea ? 19:54 wizzyrea is there a way to "cache" a search in Koha 19:51 rangi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1cdWnUebkg 19:50 rangi there's a kids one too 19:50 rangi ah ok 19:50 rangi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIYvD9DI1ZA&feature=feedlik 19:50 oleonard Yeah I have 19:49 rangi 2 secs ill get it 19:49 rangi its a road safety ad 19:49 rangi you havent seen the original one eh oleonard ? 19:49 rangi oh 19:49 oleonard Sounds like something out of Mighty Boosh 19:48 wizzyrea not me 19:48 rangi who could sing that, and stay serious ;) 19:48 rangi yup 19:47 wizzyrea lol I like how they start laughing at the end 19:46 * cait giggles 19:46 rangi hehe 19:46 wizzyrea "these ghost chips are yum" 19:46 rangi its another random nz meme (the 2nd link) 19:46 wizzyrea lol he stole the chips 19:46 cait ? 19:46 rangi Cooked :D 19:46 rangi Nekk Minut 19:46 rangi Nekk Minut 19:45 rangi Bought some 2 Minute Noodles... 19:45 cait yum 19:45 cait oh yes, ghost chips 19:45 wizzyrea loool 19:45 rangi http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=Vq36Y-IN6fE 19:45 rangi also 19:42 rangi its the music vid 19:42 rangi check this one out 19:42 wizzyrea you know I can't eat your ghost chips! 19:42 wizzyrea https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s320x320/297865_10150342185365978_502780977_8107877_1787037682_n.jpg does that work? 19:42 rangi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsFlVWqWHlA&feature=channel_video_title 19:41 rangi time for some ghost chips 19:41 rangi ohhh sorry 19:40 wizzyrea kittens! 19:40 cait ok,rangi is killing the mood again 19:40 wizzyrea doh! 19:35 rangi ijits 19:35 rangi so totally not cool 19:35 rangi http://fsfe.org/news/2011/news-20111107-01.en.html 19:30 cait yeah, you are the best 19:30 wizzyrea :) 19:30 wizzyrea oh I see we are cheering cait up :_ 19:30 cait rofl 19:29 wizzyrea whoooot 19:29 rangi from magnuse 19:29 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Add_a_button_to_the_intranet_for_registering_with_the_Koha_community#Alternative_names 19:29 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. 19:29 wizzyrea @later tell magnuse thanks for bringing up the idea to hide the ISBD view with CSS - I did that on NExpress and I feel much happier with it. ;) 19:27 cait lol 19:27 wizzyrea ha 19:27 wizzyrea magnuse++ cait++ 19:27 magnuse i'm calling it a day - take care, koha friends! 19:25 magnuse hehe 19:25 magnuse party++ 19:25 oleonard party++ 19:24 wizzyrea ack lol 19:24 magnuse cait++ 19:24 oleonard wizzyrea++ 19:24 cait hehe 19:24 wahanui party :) has neutral karma 19:24 wizzyrea karma party :) 19:24 oleonard magnuse++ 19:24 oleonard cait++ 19:24 wizzyrea oleonard++ 19:24 cait oleonard++ 19:24 cait wizzyrea++ 19:24 magnuse oleonard++ 19:24 magnuse wizzyrea++ 19:23 oleonard (if you want the js) 19:23 oleonard $("#ISBDview").parent().remove(); 19:23 cait metoo 19:23 magnuse guess i always use lowercase when i write html... 19:23 cait I was about to tell you that :) 19:23 cait yep 19:22 wizzyrea a#ISBDview {display:none;} 19:22 * magnuse just learned that css selectors are case sensitive 19:22 cait #ISBDview {display:none;} 19:22 cait you put it in opacusercss? 19:21 cait let me check ) 19:20 magnuse hm, no luck with that either 19:20 wahanui somebody said magnuse was afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza. 19:20 cait magnuse? 19:20 cait it's nicer too 19:20 cait you shoudl try the csss 19:19 magnuse hm, my attempt at jquery does not seem to work... 19:15 cait wizzyrea: looks right to me 19:15 wizzyrea because that view isn't for patrons. 19:15 wizzyrea though I think I *will* 19:15 wizzyrea do note I haven't tried that :P 19:15 magnuse time to call it a day real soon now... 19:15 magnuse argh, i'm putting js in the css syspref... 19:14 wizzyrea or somesuch 19:14 wizzyrea or #isbdview { display: none;} 19:14 wizzyrea you can definitely do it with CSS, I couldn't find a syspref for it 19:14 magnuse $('#ISBDview').empty(); ? 19:13 cait or emptying it out 19:13 cait magnuse: but there also might be a syspref 19:13 cait magnuse: you can do it with css 19:08 wizzyrea (seems logical, but just double checking) 19:07 wizzyrea numsearchRSSresults - only RSS and not all searches? 19:05 magnuse and is there a syspref for turning off the isbd view in the opac? i couldn't find it... 19:05 magnuse is the syntax of the isbd syspref explained anywhere? 19:01 rangi bbiab 19:01 rangi my stop 19:00 rangi that one 19:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6293 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Add a button to the intranet for registering with the Koha community 19:00 magnuse bug 6293 18:59 rangi say hi to the community feature 18:59 magnuse go rangi go go go ;-) 18:58 rangi Hehe 18:58 cait can we call it that? 18:57 rangi should write that sometime 18:56 rangi yeah 18:56 cait lol 18:56 magnuse that reminds me of our little "report to the mothership" feature... 18:55 cait oh 18:55 rangi right 18:55 cait cait usually is? 18:55 magnuse :-) 18:55 magnuse guess that makes sense too 18:55 rangi cait usually is 18:54 magnuse yup, you are right! 18:54 rangi off for upgrades 18:54 magnuse hm, maybe just for old ones? 18:54 rangi I think on for new 18:54 cait magnuse: for new instalations too? 18:53 cait will turn that on, once we have updated them all.. muhar 18:53 magnuse but the global default is "off"? 18:53 rangi Hehe 18:53 cait hehe 18:52 magnuse "Powered by Koha" - oh yes, baby! 18:41 rangi heh 18:41 magnuse dang 18:41 magnuse see ya Oak 18:40 Oak see you guys tomorrow. 18:40 Oak me go now to bed. 18:37 nengard hiya 18:37 rangi hi nengard 18:33 cait *sniff* 18:33 druthb you're not an op, cait. 18:33 cait she doesn't trust me to do it apparently 18:32 magnuse will do! 18:32 * sekjal disppears 18:32 druthb okay....off to bed for Ruthie. rangi or wizzyrea, if sekjal isn't gone in a couple of minutes, clobber him for me? 18:31 cait morning rangi :) 18:31 magnuse ata marie rangi 18:31 rangi back from the bus stop 18:31 magnuse nope, the crazy norwegian is going to work a little bit more 18:31 druthb only if you go too, sekjal! Dun make me come down there and tuck you in! 18:30 cait hehe 18:30 magnuse look who's talking! ;-) 18:30 * cait hides 18:30 cait magnuse: shouldn't the crazy norwegian call it a day too? 18:30 sekjal druthb: it's been more than a few... go to bed! 18:22 magnuse moahaha! 18:22 druthb :P 18:21 druthb in a few minutes, you crazy Norwegian. 18:21 * druthb pokes magnuse. 18:21 * magnuse demands more specificity! 18:21 magnuse in a few what? hours? ;-) 18:20 druthb I'm going to, in a few. 18:20 sekjal druthb: I recommend you do the same 18:20 sekjal going to force myself to bed 18:17 magnuse no sleep 'til git send-email! 18:16 cait but that might be this monday 18:16 * cait is not so surprised really 18:16 wizzyrea weird that the pref went missing 18:16 wizzyrea hehe 18:15 cait if you 2 can't sleep... you could get together and fix the moderations bug for libsysguy ;) 18:14 wizzyrea mmm spice market 18:13 druthb :) 18:13 cait :) 18:13 sekjal find a spice market if we can 18:12 druthb eat breakfast with jransom and Brooke, before they head out, and then pack, stow our luggage somewhere, and wander about some. maybe shop a little. 18:11 cait what are you gonna do tomorrow? 18:11 cait aah 18:11 druthb late-late tomorrow night. 18:10 cait when is your flight? 18:10 * druthb takes the cookies, and shares with sekjal 18:09 * cait hands druthb cookies 18:08 sekjal ditto 18:07 druthb Heaven knows I need all the beauty sleep I can get, but I'm not tired. 18:07 druthb goodness. 5 after midnight. 18:06 druthb lulz 18:06 * wizzyrea gave huginn powers. 18:05 druthb lol 18:05 wizzyrea take that. 18:05 * huginn reloads and spins the chambers. 18:05 druthb @roulette 18:05 huginn druthb: *click* 18:05 druthb @roulette 18:05 huginn druthb: *click* 18:05 druthb @roulette 18:05 * druthb pulls out another gun, and hands it to huginn. 18:00 wizzyrea :D 17:59 * cait hands wizzyrea the gun 17:59 cait it worked 17:59 cait :) 17:59 * druthb hands over cookies 17:59 magnuse cait: try spinning first? 17:59 cait more cookies? 17:59 huginn cait: *click* 17:59 cait @roulette 17:59 cait hm 17:53 cait thx 17:53 * cait nibbles 17:52 * wizzyrea gives cait yummy cookies 17:52 cait aaaw even 17:52 cait aaaq 17:51 * druthb soothes cait, too 17:51 wizzyrea *nod* I have mondayitis. 17:50 libsysguy well that explains a lot 17:50 libsysguy ohhh 17:50 cait first day back at work after vacation 17:50 * wizzyrea soothes cait 17:50 libsysguy oh no cait whats wrong? 17:50 cait sorry, bad mood tonight 17:50 cait s 17:50 cait noone care 17:49 cait I filed that a looong time ago 17:49 cait yeah 17:49 cait in the depth of the database 17:49 libsysguy oh noo 17:49 cait forever 17:49 cait comment lost 17:49 cait edits the own comment 17:49 cait sees a typo 17:49 cait person comes back 17:49 cait it shows up 17:49 cait someone approves it 17:49 libsysguy ahh 17:49 cait if you enter a comment 17:49 cait this is a bug 17:49 cait no 17:49 libsysguy so this isn't pushed yet? 17:48 rangi i was pretty sure 17:48 rangi yeah 17:47 oleonard "if moderation is turned on" 17:47 oleonard "When you enter a comment, it goes into moderation if moderation is turned on." 17:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2431 major, P3, ---, chris, RESOLVED FIXED, Bug with Comments Moderation when Editing 17:47 oleonard Wait, Bug 2431 17:47 wizzyrea library anywhere is how NEKLS does it 17:47 libsysguy hehe 17:47 magnuse at least it's how wizzyrea does mobile ;-) 17:46 libsysguy is that the way koha does mobile? 17:46 oleonard I think maybe moderation was added without giving the option of turning it off 17:46 libsysguy was just looking at that 17:46 magnuse libsysguy: http://www.librarything.com/ 17:46 rangi shouldn't be hard to put back 17:46 cait no match 17:46 cait I tried moder*, comment and review 17:46 libsysguy what is library thing? 17:46 rangi and before tags 17:46 rangi back when it was reviews 17:45 cait you can have different mechanism for tag approval, not sure about comments 17:45 rangi hmm there def used to be 17:45 libsysguy ^^ 17:45 wizzyrea yea, i'm not seeing a pref for "no moderation" 17:45 * magnuse can't see it either - just reviewson, ShowReviewer, ShowReviewerPhoto 17:45 cait hm. 17:45 cait I know you can turn it off for tags 17:44 * oleonard just was, doesn't see it 17:44 rangi there is a syspref 17:44 rangi look for reviews 17:44 libsysguy HI druthb 17:43 * druthb waves to libsysguy. 17:43 libsysguy nothing relivant when i search for 'comment' 17:43 libsysguy but I can't find it 17:43 libsysguy yeah i was looking for one 17:43 libsysguy hmm 17:43 wizzyrea i think there's a syspref for require moderation 17:43 cait not sure it's possible 17:43 cait hmm 17:42 libsysguy anybody know how i could disable comment approval? 17:42 libsysguy hey #Koha 17:40 cait but I would have wished for this day to be a bit less interesting 17:40 cait you can say that 17:39 magnuse but has not managed to keep up with the list so far... 17:39 * magnuse thinks we live in interesting times... 17:38 * jcamins is waiting for the cliff's notes. 17:38 cait I wil wait for the book 17:38 cait nope 17:37 wizzyrea some 17:37 huginn sekjal: *click* 17:37 sekjal @roulette 17:37 magnuse y'all following the discussion on "Bibliographic Framework Transition Initiative Forum" http://listserv.loc.gov/cgi-bin/wa?A0=BIBFRAME ? 17:37 magnuse cait: not bad, got some work done on the library history wiki... 17:37 * cait is a zombie now 17:37 cait how was your day magnuse? 17:37 huginn magnuse: *click* 17:37 magnuse @roulette 17:36 huginn *SPIN* Are you feeling lucky? 17:36 magnuse @roulette spin 17:36 cait finally 17:36 * huginn reloads and spins the chambers. 17:36 huginn *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?! 17:36 cait @roulette 17:36 huginn cait: (roulette [spin]) -- Fires the revolver. If the bullet was in the chamber, you're dead. Tell me to spin the chambers and I will. 17:36 cait @roulette ! 17:36 huginn cait: *click* 17:36 cait @roulette 17:36 wizzyrea these things are multiplying! 17:36 huginn cait: *click* 17:36 cait @roulette 17:36 cait grrr 17:36 huginn cait: *click* 17:35 cait @roulette 17:35 magnuse nah, it was old and worn 17:34 druthb poor magnuse! 17:34 druthb hehehe 17:34 magnuse oy! 17:34 * wizzyrea snatches the gun from magnuse and adds it to her collection 17:34 wizzyrea i'm gonna have a collection. 17:34 druthb lol 17:34 wizzyrea s/dro/dry 17:34 * wizzyrea tosses it in the quick dro concrete 17:34 magnuse blanks++ 17:33 * huginn reloads and spins the chambers. 17:33 huginn *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?! 17:33 magnuse @roulette 17:33 * druthb hands it to wizzy 17:33 * druthb takes the gun from cait 17:33 cait yeah, this day really... 17:33 huginn cait: *click* 17:33 cait @roulette 17:33 huginn cait: *click* 17:33 cait @roulette 17:33 magnuse blanks++ 17:33 * wizzyrea hrmphs 17:32 cait lol 17:32 * huginn reloads and spins the chambers. 17:32 huginn *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?! 17:32 magnuse @roulette 17:32 huginn cait: *click* 17:32 cait @roulette 17:31 wizzyrea and tosses it in some quick dry concrete. 17:31 druthb ! 17:31 * wizzyrea takes the gun away from druthb 17:31 huginn druthb: *click* 17:31 druthb @roulette 17:31 druthb dang. 17:31 huginn druthb: *click* 17:31 druthb @roulette 17:30 huginn druthb: *click* 17:30 druthb @roulette 17:30 wizzyrea are you channelling sir mix a lot? 17:30 wizzyrea lol 17:30 oleonard -ons++ 17:30 oleonard huge butt 17:28 wizzyrea it makes the button huge but... oh well. 17:27 oleonard wizzyrea++ 17:27 wizzyrea oleonard: i changed the wording back as suggested on 6323 17:22 rhcl turkeyburgers 17:17 Oak good that it's better... 17:16 sekjal a little better, but still there 17:16 Oak how is the cough sekjal 17:12 Oak hmm 17:12 jcamins I don't anticipate it will make that much of a difference, but every little bit helps. 17:12 Oak ah, i was about to write "that's good". not anymore. 17:11 jcamins And the entire place coated with poison. 17:11 jcamins Yup. 17:11 Oak ooh, the roach problem. cracks filled? 17:10 * Oak just says random silly things 17:10 Oak :] 17:09 Oak good 17:09 jcamins No. 17:09 Oak ah, not marijuana 17:09 jcamins I don't _really_ have use of my kitchen. 17:08 jcamins Oak: yeah, for cooking in. 17:08 jcamins And preferably isn't dal, because at some point Shari is going to get fed up with me making dal and just throw it in my face when I serve it to her again. 17:08 Oak pot? 17:08 * jcamins tries to come up with a fast and easy idea for lunch and dinner that doesn't require more than one pot, or anything he doesn't have on hand. 17:08 Oak ladybug is having dinner 17:07 Oak hello wizzyrea :) 17:07 druthb Hi, Oak and wizzyrea! 17:07 wizzyrea hi ruth 17:07 Oak hello druthb :) 17:02 Oak good :) 17:02 cait having dinner right now :) 17:01 Oak had dinner? 17:01 cait hello Oak :) 17:01 Oak hello cait at home :) 16:30 * dpavlin wants to thank everyone at KohaCon for great time! Off to airport in few hours... 16:22 reiveune bye 16:20 kf oleonard++ 16:20 * jcamins waves to the KohaConners again. 16:18 wizzyrea *nod* 16:18 jcamins oleonard++ # his Twitter is very entertaining. 16:14 * chris_n learns the 'exec' command by trial and error :-/ 16:12 oleonard the computer's gel-packs got the sneezles. 16:12 kf sun spots? 16:11 wizzyrea someone scrubbed out the EPS conduits. 15:57 oleonard they must have gotten the Trans-Warp Terminal back online. 15:56 oleonard Aaaand... we're back. 15:55 oleonard Idea: pass results of guided reports directly to bulk operations like item edit, item delete, list and cart creation. 15:53 wizzyrea but, then again, i gave it a tincture of bat ears and eye of newt. 15:53 * wizzyrea has never had any messy breakages of OpenDNS 15:51 slef OpenDNS breaks messily IME 15:39 jcamins Totally Weird Transitory issue? 15:37 wizzyrea that is an acronym even I don't know 15:35 jcamins Traveling-wave tube. 15:32 oleonard What the hell is a TWT issue? Some twit broke the internet? 15:32 oleonard Response from upstream, "I think it's a TWT issue we're working on ATM; 95% sure it's not your problem" 15:18 wizzyrea weird. 15:18 oleonard We are using OpenDNS too. No DNS setup on my machine 15:18 wizzyrea you can try putting google or another DNS resolver in 15:17 wizzyrea i wonder if the server you are using for your resolver has changed or is down 15:17 wizzyrea oleonard, do you have control over the DNS settings on your own machine? 15:16 wizzyrea amazons are working for me 15:16 wizzyrea oh hm 15:15 oleonard also down for me, oddly enough, Amazon cover images. Or is that an API change kicking in? 15:14 * wizzyrea misunderstood 15:14 wizzyrea nm then 15:14 wizzyrea lol o 15:13 jcamins downforeveryoneorjustme is down for me. myacpl is up. 15:13 wizzyrea naw, the DNS cache for just your domain -- they've mucked something up at your DNS host 15:13 * oleonard rushes to get his day's worth of internet surfing done 15:13 wizzyrea for resolving 15:13 wizzyrea still up from here, we use OpenDNS 15:12 wizzyrea i bet the DNS cache is expiring 15:12 jcamins It's down for me, too, BTW 15:10 jcamins oleonard: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/downforeveryoneorjustme.com :P 15:05 wizzyrea ;) 15:05 wizzyrea precisely 15:05 oleonard they hate our freedom *and* our wide selection of picture books 15:04 jcamins The bug report, not the Iranians going after the Kansas libraries (and why did they do that?). 15:03 jcamins wizzyrea: awesome! 15:01 wizzyrea best bug report ever: http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/boingboing/iBag/~3/dxZuQbH9zGI/bug-report-simultaneous-cat-and-external-keyboard-input-causing-kernel-panic.html 14:56 wizzyrea that was... late 2009 I guess. 14:55 * oleonard doesn't remember that! 14:55 wizzyrea (I wish that were a joke) 14:55 * wizzyrea remembers the iranians who went after kansas libraries, shudders. 14:54 wizzyrea "muppet arming" 14:54 oleonard Anonymous has struck, and is taking down high profile targets like Ohio public libraries! 14:54 wizzyrea might just be the end of the world 14:54 * jcamins runs around waving his hands in the air in a disturbed fashion. 14:54 wizzyrea well we did have earthquakes in Kansas this weekend. 14:54 jcamins It's the end of the Internet! 14:53 jcamins oleonard: also, apparently lots of unrelated IRC networks are experiencing netsplits today. 14:53 oleonard ...but I was able to connect to one of our sites earlier this morning 14:52 oleonard We had some people doing some checking of our internal network over the weekend 14:52 jcamins oleonard: could also be a misconfigured internal view. 14:52 oleonard Thanks for checking everyone 14:49 wizzyrea so maybe they did some maintenance at the state where your DNS is hosted? 14:49 wizzyrea mostly mismatches between nsx.ohio.gov vs nsx.state.oh.us 14:48 wizzyrea ) 14:48 wizzyrea (yes, that takes ages to load. 14:48 wizzyrea http://www.dnssy.com/report.php?q=myacpl.org 14:48 wizzyrea hmm, some problems here 14:47 trea ping by name vs ping by IP 14:47 trea dns problem perhaps? 14:47 wizzyrea can you ping it? 14:46 * oleonard wonders why it doesn't work for him 14:46 wizzyrea oleonard: works from here 14:45 * oleonard grumbles 14:45 alex_a it works oleonard 14:45 rhcl I was just there...on now actually 14:45 trea ^^ 14:45 jcamins Works for me. 14:44 oleonard Could someone please try to access http://www.myacpl.org and tell me if it works? 14:40 kf sorry meeting 14:40 kf oleonard: makes sense 14:37 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6752] Be stricter with utf-8 output <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6752> 14:37 oleonard Javascript is required for interactions with clicks 14:37 oleonard No, not as far as I know 14:36 kf they don't react to clicks? 14:35 oleonard The primary disadvantage of CSS menus as I see it is that they pop up whether you meant to hover over them or not 14:34 kf I think it was probably the easiest way to do pull downs, but things might have changed with new options in browsers and such now 14:34 oleonard We didn't vote on it or anything, it was my decision. 14:34 hdl kf: neither do I remember it has ever been discussed somewhere that we should use yui for buttons. 14:33 hdl kf: I am not expert either. just wanted to say there could be solutions to make that work well only with css. 14:32 hdl or this http://purecssmenu.com/ 14:32 kf I am not sure why we chose to do it with yui in the past and what the limitations/requirements are 14:31 kf hdl: I think it's interesting, but I am not an expert here :( 14:30 hdl This link is also a ressource in order not to use javascript to build up menus. 14:29 hdl http://oreilly.com/pub/a/javascript/2001/03/23/rollovers.html 14:28 kf hm I see on the screenshots they are workign with ie.. perhaps worth a try in firefox? 14:27 kf they write that the pull down will not open for them - it does on the screenshots, I think they mean that the reader does not see it perhaps 14:26 kf oleonard: the example they printed for me is about the edit, save and new buttons on the catalog detail page in staff 14:26 kf and the other problem I got told is the pull down menu buttons 14:26 kf which of course makes it hard to find out which indicator belongs to what 14:25 hdl kf: or this one : http://www.tutofr.com/tutoriaux/menu-deroulant-css/mise_en_page_4.php 14:25 kf apparently it reads all indicators (the column) and the fields after that 14:25 kf one problem is the reading sequence in cataloging 14:25 kf I have a new library with a blind staff member, using braille line and jaws as a screen reader 14:24 kf I had no time before my vacation to investigage - as soon as I can I will give you an update 14:24 oleonard kf: I would like to know more about the accessibility problems you've heard about 14:24 kf I was only hoping we could make the change happen sometime soon 14:24 kf I think owen has the best overview of the elements used and what we need to replace 14:23 hdl http://cssmenumaker.com/ 14:22 kf which seems to be aproblem with yui 14:22 hdl kf: we could be using menus with css and not use any js for that. 14:22 kf I would like to kill those buttons (in hope for better accessibility) 14:21 kf or menus 14:21 kf hard to believe there is no solution at all for buttons 14:21 kf is there something else people are using perhaps? 14:21 magnuse keeping_things_simple++ 14:21 kf yeah 14:21 oleonard (at least I would prefer to, to keep things simple) 14:21 kf hmm 14:21 oleonard ...but I then we'll need to switch to the jQuery-native version when it becomes available 14:20 oleonard It may be getting to the point where we should do that. I didn't realize until I started writing that email that I'd been maintaining the branch for almost a year now 14:20 kf is the problem pull down buttons basically? and split buttons? 14:20 kf is there another way we could do menus with jquery than using the widget? perhaps writing our 'own' widget? 14:20 oleonard Still YUI 14:19 kf is the alpha widget for menus included there? or still using yui then? 14:19 kf a question about your yui replacement branch 14:19 kf hi oleonard 14:19 kf save... :) 14:18 oleonard_ space_travels++ 14:17 magnuse kf: s/sace/space/ ? ;-) 14:12 kf nice dinner and sace travels paul_away 14:02 magnuse have a nice dinner! 14:02 magnuse yay 14:02 magnuse wow, that's a nice time to take off! 14:02 paul_p really a *great* KohaCon and time in india ! 14:01 paul_p hi magnuse ! we are heading for dinner now. Then... back to France ! (take-off at 3AM... ouch...) 14:01 magnuse namaste kmkale and paul_p 13:53 * oleonard can now see what "P5" means and still doesn't know what difference priority makes 13:35 magnuse pootle only says 2% translated, though... 13:34 magnuse that's very cool! 13:32 druthb I'm told a lot of progress was made on the Marathi translation, which is something they need here. 13:29 oleonard It's such a treat to get together in the same room... hard to reproduce that productivity virtually. 13:28 druthb it seemed to be very productive. Ian wasn't satisfied--he wanted more done, of course. But it went well, and the bunch of learners and translators here was just awesome. 13:27 magnuse and i have ~200 unread *threads* from the bugs mailing list etc... 13:26 jcamins oleonard: yeah, there are almost as many bugs needing sign off as there were before the hackfest. ;) 13:25 oleonard bugzilla tells me hackfest was productive 13:24 druthb we fly out of Mumbai tomorrow night, local, landing at Newark Wednesday morning...then I'm in the air much of the day, to get back to Nashville via Milwaukee. 13:23 oleonard druthb: When do you come back? 13:20 magnuse o/ 13:19 jcamins \o 13:18 druthb o/ 13:16 magnuse Oak 13:16 Oak magnuse 13:15 Oak Kavinsky - Nightcall http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV_3Dpw-BRY&ob=av2e 13:13 magnuse ooh, PerlCritic on FLOSS Weekly: http://twit.tv/show/floss-weekly/189 12:48 * magnuse waves 12:48 kf bye :) 12:47 * eythian will be boarding soon, cya later 12:47 eythian Also, Singapore airlines is also pretty great 12:44 kf save travels :) 12:44 kf ah ok 12:44 kf next time I fly to nz - singapore hehe 12:44 eythian But, this time I'm only here for an hour or so, so it was straight to the next gate. 12:43 eythian They do. 12:43 kf eythian: I bet they have showers too 12:43 kf eythian: sounds pretty nice 12:41 eythian If you're here for several hours, you can do a tour of Singapore too 12:41 eythian Has a movie theatre, swimming poll, etc. 12:41 eythian It is. If you have to spend time in transit, this is the place to do it. 12:40 jcamins eythian: I've heard that Singapore airport is pretty great. Is that true? 12:39 * eythian is now waiting in Singapore for the long part of the trip home. 12:32 jcamins NateC: I've been married for over a year. Goodness how time flies! 12:24 NateC wow its been a year since then! 12:24 NateC nope when I saw you in NZ I was getting ready to propose 12:23 * hdl thought it had been done way before. 12:23 kf :) 12:23 NateC thanks hdl 12:23 NateC but we had to come back to SNOW!!!! 12:23 hdl congrats NateC 12:22 NateC it was niiice 12:22 NateC Antigua 12:22 kf where have you been to? 12:22 jcamins Yeah, but I don't recall speaking to you since then. I've hardly been around at normal times. 12:22 NateC but thanks!! :D 12:22 NateC we got married in September 12:22 NateC been out for awhile, we finally got to take our honeymoon 12:21 jcamins :P 12:21 jcamins NateC: didn't you get married or something? 12:21 NateC Hi kf! 12:21 kf morning NateC :) 12:21 NateC but what for :)? 12:20 NateC Thanks jcamins 12:20 jcamins NateC: congratulations! 12:19 NateC (that second one was in the wrong window :) 12:19 NateC Morning! 12:19 NateC Morning Everyone 12:01 jcamins Back to work? 12:01 jcamins Morning. 11:58 kf morning jared 11:58 kf yay :) 11:56 jcamins_away Yay! KohaCon12 in Edinburgh! 11:04 kf cool :) 10:48 slef as soon as we have it fixed, even 10:48 slef yeah, as soon as we have it public, we'll announce dates as widely as we can and call for sponsorships 10:47 kf it's murphy's law or something 10:47 kf you can't prevent that 10:47 slef happen like always = we clash with stuff? 10:47 kf once you have the dates set... someone else chooses to have an event on those dates 10:47 kf and it will happen like always 10:47 kf not sure we have to worry about THATcamp 10:46 kf1 now it maeks sense 10:46 slef kf1: I've done that at least once while planning! 10:45 kf1 ah, looking at the wrong year... 10:45 slef kf1: depends how accurate their dates are :) 10:45 kf1 for tu/we/th it would not overlap I think? 10:44 kf1 no idea 10:44 slef It would overlap with THATCamp. Anyone know what that is? 10:44 kf1 oh, SWIB is listed there 10:43 slef That's what I'm thinking. I'm just checking http://digital-conferences-calendar.info/ to see what we'd clash with. 10:42 kf1 perhaps a bit harder for the conf 10:42 kf1 I thik perhaps the latter? for the hackfet people will not mind staying for the weekend 10:42 kf1 hmm 10:42 slef We just can't do Mo/Tu/We. 10:41 slef The big decision is whether to put the conference Fr/Sa/Su or Tu/We/Th :-/ 10:41 * kf1 is practically counting the days... to june 10:41 kf1 was wondering if I can ask... or better not to 10:41 kf1 yay 10:41 slef nailing down kohacon12 at last 10:41 kf1 hi slef :) 10:40 slef hi all 09:33 Amit_Gupta heya anadalogoy 08:38 hdl hi Amit_Gupta 08:29 Amit_Gupta heya hdl 08:19 hdl hi all 08:19 kf hi #koha :) 08:19 magnuse hiya kf and hdl 08:11 reiveune :) 08:11 reiveune hello magnus and everybody 08:09 magnuse bonjour clrh et reiveune 07:54 clrh hello 07:44 cait bbiab 07:44 BobB hey slef - are you about? 07:43 magnuse yay 07:42 cait magnuse: always the optimist :) 07:36 Amit_Gupta heya alex_a 07:31 magnuse only ~8 months 'til kohacon12! 07:28 magnuse morgen cait 07:27 cait morning magnuse 07:26 magnuse hiya alex_a and Amit_Gupta 07:25 Amit_Gupta heya magnuse 07:25 alex_a hi #koha 07:25 magnuse hiya BobB 07:22 BobB hi magnuse 07:22 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 10.0�C (7:50 AM CET on November 07, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). 07:22 magnuse @wunder boo 07:21 magnuse namaskar #koha 07:08 cait we get more days like this, but not many more warm days now 07:08 cait I think I would make the deal 07:08 BobB cait I will swap you. High humidity with low temperature is easier to take. :) 07:06 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 8.5�C (8:00 AM CET on November 07, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Windchill: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1013.8 hPa (Rising). 07:06 cait @wunder Konstanz 07:06 Amit_Gupta aah! 07:05 huginn BobB: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 21.0�C (5:30 PM EST on November 07, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). 07:05 BobB @wunder Sydney New South Wales 07:05 BobB No we are home. We left Mumbai on Sunday morning and arrived very early in Sydney this morning. 07:04 Amit_Gupta BobB: you are travelling 07:04 BobB Hi Amit Gupta 07:03 Amit_Gupta heya dpavlin 07:03 Amit_Gupta heya BobB 06:47 cait :) 06:47 * Oak goes back to True Believer 06:37 Oak kia ora #koha 06:37 cait hi Oak :) 06:37 Oak hello cait :) 06:27 cait save travels :) 06:19 BobB Travel well. 06:17 * dpavlin plans to make last Thane tour before leaving tonigh (after sleep without alaram clock - precious) 06:13 BobB kmkale about? 06:12 * BobB is in Sydney with dreadful jet lag :( 06:12 BobB Is anyone still in Thane? 06:11 BobB hi mumbaikers 06:01 Amit_Gupta :D 05:52 cait :) 05:52 cait hi Amit_Gupta 05:52 Amit_Gupta heya cait 05:52 cait morning #koha 05:29 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6504] no way to enter shipping price in acq <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6504> 04:59 kmkale hi Amit_Gupta 04:45 Amit_Gupta heya kmkale 04:37 Amit_Gupta heya andandology 04:28 Amit_Gupta heya paul_p 03:46 Oak :) 03:45 Oak uh oh. all good things... 03:45 Amit_Gupta Oak : finally return from kohacon 03:45 Oak kia ora #koha 03:44 Oak hello rangi :-) 03:44 Oak heya Amit_Gupta :) 03:44 rangi hi Oak 03:44 Amit_Gupta heya Oak 03:44 * Oak waves 03:35 rangi hi Amit_Gupta 03:33 Amit_Gupta Good morning koha 03:33 Amit_Gupta heya chris 03:15 rangi sheesh 03:14 rangi then come back 03:14 rangi maybe read 03:13 Small i'll comeback later 03:12 Small aborted on line 6 of rebuild_zebra.PL 03:11 Small zebra_lock_create fail 03:11 Small the script fails 03:11 Small th script fails 03:08 Small it says use -b or - a to run 03:08 Small nevermind 03:08 Small oops 03:08 Small oh 03:07 Small it says that the file / directory is not there 03:06 * rangi goes back to what he is being paid to do now 03:06 Small it is there 03:06 rangi run it if it is 03:06 Small i am there 03:06 rangi see if rebuild_zebra.pl is in there 03:06 rangi look in bin/migration_tools/ 03:06 Small same thing :p what were "we" looking for? 03:06 * rangi is trying to work 03:06 rangi you were 03:06 rangi i wasnt 03:06 Small what were you looking for? 03:06 Small now i am in it 03:05 Small ok 03:05 rangi if that is where you were before then yes 03:05 Small so, usr/share/koha 03:05 rangi in the directory you were in before 03:05 Small sorry, im thinking about 2 things at same time 03:05 rangi bin/ 03:05 Small oh, what did you say? 03:04 rangi i never said /bin 03:04 Small what? 03:04 rangi not /bin 03:04 Small there is no migration tools in the /bin directory 03:02 Small oops 03:02 Small oh 03:00 Small says file directory not found, and i spelled it right\ 03:00 Small its not letting me go in it 02:59 rangi is rebuild_zebra.pl in there? 02:59 Small are you looking for a file in that? 02:59 Small that is there 02:58 Small there is that 02:58 rangi ls bin/migration_tools 02:57 rangi with the misc dir 02:57 rangi in the dir, that you were just in 02:57 Small is there a specific file your looking for? 02:57 Small i have a missing package, for java, and it errors downloading offline 02:57 Small arg 02:55 Small just a sec 02:55 Small this one has alot 02:55 Small im going to join on the computer running the scripts 02:55 rangi ls -l bin/ 02:55 Small exept all my searches are broken 02:55 Small everything works 02:54 Small what would a non-standard install do? 02:54 Small im pretty sure 02:54 rangi and you are utterly sure you did a standard install? 02:54 Small total 8 02:53 Small koha-install-log translator 02:53 rangi ls -l misc 02:53 Small :( 02:53 Small ls: cannot access misc/migration_tools/: No such file or directory 02:52 Small ok 02:52 rangi ls -l misc/migration_tools/ 02:52 Small :( 02:51 Small misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl: command not found 02:51 Small ok 02:51 rangi not .PL 02:51 rangi .pl 02:49 Small misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.PL: command not found 02:49 Small ok 02:49 rangi try with .pl on the end 02:48 Small yes it does 02:48 rangi does whatever directory you are in have a misc dir in it? if not, you aren't in the right place 02:47 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6210] Choose framework on Merge <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6210> 02:47 Small misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra: command not found 02:46 Small hold on 02:46 Small ok 02:46 rangi wherever your koha installed is where you need to run it 02:46 rangi then probably /usr/share/koha 02:46 Small standard 02:45 rangi did you chose standard or dev install ? 02:45 Small in the home folder? in system root? 02:45 Small well, where do i run that script 02:45 rangi what directory do you mean? 02:44 Small but what folder do i have to run it from? 02:44 rangi right so you must be in the wrong directory 02:44 Small but what folder do i have to run it from? 02:44 Small i did 02:44 rangi you have to change ${KOHA_USER} to be the actual koha user 02:44 Small well, i filled in KOHA_USER 02:44 rangi and that wont work 02:44 rangi in which directory? 02:43 Small $ sudo -u ${KOHA_USER} misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra -z -b -a 02:43 rangi what exactly are you typing? 02:43 rangi what folder 02:43 Small it says that the files does not exist 02:43 Small they are not in the folder 02:43 wahanui not are they just not ratbags 02:43 rangi not where? 02:42 Small but when i run the rebuild_zebra script, it is not there 02:42 Small well, i read the things on zebra 02:37 Small ok 02:37 rangi http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=INSTALL.ubuntu;h=2bedddcd2ac722eeadd5273f7ef705917e8f591d;hb=ee0627f20bee5df234ab284d1fdacebb857de57f#l299 in the INSTALL.ubuntu file that comes with Koha, there is INSTALL.debian and many others, i suggest you read at least one of them 02:27 Small i have looked on wiki ad theres nothing there 02:27 Small CAN SOMEONE HELP ME!!!!! 02:18 Small ARGGG 02:16 Small Can you help? 02:16 Small I need help with zebra 02:14 Small So nobody knows how to start the zebrasrv? 02:12 Small hmm 02:12 wahanui Small: i'm not following you... 02:12 Small wahanui: how to start zebra 02:11 Small anybody 02:06 Small I think i just need to start it, but i dont know how to 02:06 Small I need help with zebra 01:55 rangi heh 01:53 jcamins_away Totally over-rated. 01:52 rangi :) 01:52 rangi also i can't use apostrophes right 01:51 rangi and i could spend years trying to get openvpn ported to android ... but lif'es too short :) 01:51 jcamins_away Ah, yeah, that'd be a problem. 01:51 rangi so that wont work ;) 01:51 rangi yeah you cant ssh to my workstation outside of the internal network 01:50 * jcamins_away just uses connectbot. 01:50 rangi i used to, but bip makes it easier to connect without having to vpn in ... which is easier to do on the phone 01:49 * druthb is usually here when she's here, and not when she's not. 01:49 * jcamins_away just runs irssi in screen. 01:49 rangi but i also run bip 01:48 rangi i run irssi in screen on my workstation at work 01:48 rangi heh 01:47 * jcamins_away was told that it was old-fashioned to run irssi in screen. 01:47 jcamins_away Woohoo! Someone else "old fashioned"! 01:42 druthb me figures out what she's gonna wear the next two days, and for the plane ride home... 01:39 trea hi rangi 01:38 rangi heya trea 01:38 rangi or bip 01:38 rangi im betting he runs screen like me :) 01:38 trea hiya 01:38 rangi heya druthb 01:38 druthb heh. he left hisself logged in then. Hi, rangi and BobB and trea! 01:36 rangi druthb: idle : 0 days 9 hours 59 mins 51 secs :-) not so much up 01:14 druthb dpavlin, you're up early!