Time Nick Message
00:00 Small_2 yes
00:00 Small_2 then i upgraded to 3.06
00:00 Small_2 and my searches are broken
00:03 Small_2 Are you there>
00:05 moodaepo Small_2: Yea downloading the iso and just found your email to the live cd list, except I think that's a different one (I might be wrong)
00:06 Small_2 ok
00:06 moodaepo Small_2: This http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Live_CD_%28No_Install_Option%29 is different from http://sourceforge.net/projects/kohalivecd/ which one are you using?
00:07 Small_2 yes, so i downloaded that, then i upgraded it 3.06 and searches broke
00:07 Small_2 oh
00:07 Small_2 I am using the Koha Live Cd
00:07 Small_2 from source forge
00:15 Small_2 is it almost done?
00:16 moodaepo Nope 75% done...and the roofing tar is getting nauseous. Ugh
00:16 Small_2 heh
00:24 moodaepo Small_2: Ok the user which runs koha in the live cd is....koha
00:24 Small_2 sudo -u koha says the user koha does not exist
00:26 Small_2 sudo: unknown user: koha
00:27 Small_2 are you there
00:31 moodaepo Small_2: Sorry I take that back I think the live cd runs koha as root
00:31 Small_2 ok
00:31 Small_2 so i was doing it right then
00:32 Small_2 because sudo = root, right?
00:33 moodaepo Right but try it differently, do "sudo -i" and then run your reindex
00:33 Small_2 ok
00:36 Small_2 what is the options to run with it again?
00:37 moodaepo Small_2: Isn't it just "perl rebuild_zebra.pl"
00:38 moodaepo I'm not really a koha user just hang out here for the cool people
00:38 Small_2 haha
00:38 Small_2 well
00:38 Small_2 i run perl rebuild_zebra.pl
00:38 Small_2 and it errors with the perrmissions problem
00:38 Judit http://rebuild_zebra.pl/ -b -a -z
00:38 Small_2 but if i go
00:38 Small_2 sudo -i
00:39 Small_2 it says file not found
00:39 moodaepo I think the ENV is not set right.
00:39 Small_2 the what?
00:39 wahanui somebody said the was a stop word
00:39 moodaepo Try this "echo "export PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib:\$PERL5LIB" >> ~/.bashrc"
00:40 Small_2 ok
00:40 Small_2 with the ""'s?
00:41 moodaepo After that ". ~/.bashrc"
00:41 moodaepo No only stuff within the quotes
00:42 Small_2 Permission Denied
00:42 Small_2 Do i use sudo
00:42 moodaepo Yea after sudo -i
00:43 Small_2 Still, Permission Denied
00:43 Small_2 :(
00:43 eythian phew, now awaiting my last fight home. Sick of planes already.
00:44 Judit where are you? still in india?
00:44 Small_2 fight?
00:44 Judit haha:) true
00:45 rangi hmm auckland or christchurch is my guess
00:45 Judit what do you mean your last fight? how many did you beat up so far
00:45 Small_2 where did moodaepo go?
00:45 eythian In Auckland.
00:45 Small_2 heh
00:45 eythian Auckland is always a fight.
00:45 moodaepo Small_2: I don't think I can think of why you are getting permission denied
00:46 Small_2 :(
00:46 Small_2 says
00:46 Small_2 -bash: /home/emery/.bashrc: Permission denied
00:49 Small_2 anyone?
00:50 moodaepo Small_2: In command line does it say root@koha at the beginning of the line? If not what does it say?
00:50 Small_2 emery@emery-Aspire-T690:
00:51 moodaepo Yea that's not right, when I do "sudo -i" I see root@koha
00:51 Small_2 oh
00:51 Small_2 oops
00:51 Small_2 i did sudo -i with the bashrc line
00:51 Small_2 now it says
00:52 Small_2 root@emery-Aspire-T690:
00:52 Small_2 But now we have a new problem
00:52 Small_2 root@emery-Aspire-T690:
00:52 Small_2 oops
00:52 Small_2 -bash: /root/.bashrc: No such file or directory
00:52 moodaepo Have you tried running the rebuild/reindex when the command line looks like that?
00:52 Small_2 nope
00:53 Small_2 should i?
00:53 moodaepo Try it and see.
00:53 Small_2 in the manual
00:53 Small_2 it says to run,
00:53 Small_2 misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -w
00:53 Small_2 but that says file not found
00:54 Small_2 i did this
00:54 Small_2 root@emery-Aspire-T690:/usr/share/koha/bin# migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -w
00:54 Small_2 and it ran with no errors
00:54 moodaepo Right try /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -w
00:55 moodaepo Cool now you have reached the limit of my koha knowledge
00:55 Small_2 ok
00:55 Small_2 well, searches still dont work
00:55 eythian look in the documentation for koha-rebuild-zebra
00:56 Small_2 ok
00:56 * moodaepo heads home
00:56 moodaepo @wunder 56001
00:56 huginn moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is 8.1�C (6:54 PM CST on November 07, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Windchill: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.20 in 1022.6 hPa (Steady).
00:57 Small_2 says koha-rebuild-zebra: command not found
00:57 Small_2 where should i run it?
00:58 eythian use sudo, it's a system command
00:59 Small_2 ok
00:59 Small_2 sudo: koha-rebuild-zebra: command not found
01:01 eythian you installed the packages right?
01:01 Small_2 i did not install, used Koha Live Cd
01:01 Small_2 it worked fine
01:01 Small_2 then i upgraded to 3.06
01:01 Small_2 and it broke
01:02 eythian oh
01:02 eythian i can't help then
01:02 Small_2 :(
01:03 Small_2 i'll come back tomorrow
01:03 Small_2 bye
01:04 rangi heh
01:04 rangi i count 5 ppl have told him to use the packages now
01:04 eythian he tried last time I saw, but failed
01:05 rangi that's pretty much the sum total of the last 4 days of asking for help
01:05 rangi i think he is not cutting and pasting
01:05 eythian really needs someone who knows computers to do it.
01:05 rangi yes
01:05 rangi i think helping him to install koha is not actually helping him
01:05 eythian I remember the name 'emery' from way back when, too.
01:05 eythian yeah
01:06 rangi oh true
01:16 * eythian isleaving on a jet plane
01:20 rangi cya tomorrow
03:11 Amit_Gupta heya chris
03:17 Amit_Gupta heya bg
03:58 Judit do you have the date for kohacon 2012
03:58 Judit ?
03:59 Amit_Gupta heya Judit
04:00 Judit hi
04:00 wahanui bonjour, Judit
04:04 Amit_Gupta heya wahanui
04:29 kmkale Namaskaar #koha :)
04:29 Amit_Gupta heya kmkale
04:29 rangi hi kmkale, getting some rest now its all over?
04:39 wizzyrea mornin cait
04:39 cait morning liz
04:39 cait isn't it late for you?
04:40 wizzyrea 10:30, not so late
04:44 kmkale rangi: nope. no rest. though I am bone tired, there is tons of work pending as I did not get any chance during the week :(
04:44 kmkale hi Amit_Gupta
04:45 kmkale hi cait wizzyrea :)
04:47 cait hi kmkale and Amit_Gupta
04:49 wizzyrea hi everybody :)
05:41 Judit1 hi rea
05:44 Amit_Gupta heya cait
05:45 cait hi Amit_Gupta and Judit1
05:46 Judit1 hi cait
05:48 Judit1 hm
05:48 Judit1 can i have 2 different opacs for my 2 branches?
05:49 cait hmm
05:49 cait there is a way to do it
05:50 cait but I have never tried it
05:50 cait let me find the wiki page
05:51 cait Judit1: I thought there was more documentation... http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Support_for_multiple_PAC_interfaces_by_URL_RFC
05:51 Judit1 thanks
05:52 cait Judit1: perhaps try google for more :)
05:52 Judit1 i did, but google is not my friend today
06:32 jransom Koustabha !! kia ora
06:32 jransom we are at Mumbai airport
06:35 kmkale ouch
06:35 kmkale missed ya :(
06:37 jransom no - I'm still here :)
06:37 jransom but you missed hugging brooke and me and paul and francois and ian and ruth and julian good bye
06:38 Judit1 that is a long list :)
06:40 jransom heya Judit
06:40 cait hi jransom :) safe travels to you all! :)
06:44 kmkale :( missing you all already
06:45 kmkale gotta run. catch you later
06:45 rangi whens ur flight brooke ?
06:47 * cait imagines that transformation
06:47 brooke Ummm 16 minutesish
06:47 brooke 1pm dep
06:47 brooke but boards in 16ish
06:47 rangi same for jo?
06:47 Judit1 cait :D
06:47 brooke aye
06:47 brooke can you believe that they had the nerve to seat me near that ratbag?
06:47 brooke now I'm going to have to sit near her on the plane and pretend to like her ;)
06:48 cait wow, tht sounds hard
06:48 brooke it shall be the hardest thing I've ever done ;)
06:49 brooke but seriously
06:49 brooke conference was wonderful
06:49 brooke I have so many faces to go with names now :D
06:49 rangi thats good
06:49 rangi i hope you are planning to do write ups for the koha-community site
06:50 rangi :)
06:50 cait yep
06:50 cait be fair and share :)
06:51 joann its me now :)
06:51 joann I have a blog post ready to go - and plan to write one about my overall reflections on kjohacon
06:52 joann we did a round table at dinner last night about what we each 'learnt - and it was pretty universal.
06:52 rangi cool
06:53 joann right - shall try carrying this to other end of the terminal and continue typing at the gate
06:53 joann if i get cut off - adious
06:54 rangi :)
07:35 magnuse namaskar #koha
07:35 cait good morning magnuse :)
07:39 magnuse hiya cait!
07:39 rangi magnuse: http://opac.koha.workbuffer.org/cgi-bin/koha/svc/report?id=6
07:40 magnuse huh? [["Database management / Bstan-ʼdzin-rgya-mtsho"],["this title has a < and \" and a & in it"],["Anvil of stars /"],["He Pa Auroa :"],["Good omens /"]]
07:41 rangi its JSON
07:41 magnuse a ha! ;-)
07:41 rangi you can pass an id of any report
07:41 rangi that you have marked as 'public'
07:42 magnuse ooh, very cool!
07:42 cait now you only have to teach us how to make that pretty :)
07:42 rangi whcih means that now you can ajax the output of any report
07:42 magnuse yay
07:42 rangi and show it anywhere you want on the opac
07:42 rangi you do something like
07:42 rangi <div id='blah'></div>
07:42 magnuse did you hear that? it was the sound of my head exploding!
07:43 cait hm
07:43 cait I will perhaps hear it in a few seconds
07:43 cait because of the distance
07:43 magnuse :-)
07:43 rangi $.get("/cgi-bin/event_homepage.pl", function(data){ document.getElementById("eventsInner").innerHTML = data;
07:44 rangi });
07:44 magnuse it'll be perfect for showing "new books" etc on the front page
07:44 rangi changing the id, and the url of course
07:44 rangi yep, new books
07:44 rangi new serials received
07:44 rangi new orders
07:44 * cait drools
07:44 rangi issues stats
07:44 magnuse new patrons ;-)
07:44 cait @wunder Konstanz
07:44 rangi whatever
07:44 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 7.6�C (8:39 AM CET on November 08, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Windchill: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016.5 hPa (Steady).
07:44 cait hm slightly warmer than yesterday
07:44 magnuse and it's so flexible!
07:45 rangi well its json, so you can whatever you want to it in jquery
07:45 rangi easily
07:45 magnuse and it builds on existing functionality!
07:45 rangi and can create a report to give whatever data you want
07:45 magnuse made of awesome
07:45 rangi so now all i need to do
07:45 rangi is add an option to cache
07:45 cait rangi++ :)
07:45 rangi so that its fast to display
07:45 magnuse yeah, that's a good idea
07:45 rangi but ill do that tomorrow
07:45 magnuse rangi++ definitely
07:47 * magnuse makes a note to investigate templates in js further
07:47 * cait adds a note to teach cait about your findings
07:47 cait ok, bbiab
07:47 rangi http://api.jquery.com/jQuery.parseJSON/
07:48 rangi http://api.jquery.com/jQuery.getJSON/
07:48 rangi that 2nd one is better
07:48 rangi jquery rules
07:49 magnuse jquery++
07:50 alex_a hi
07:51 rangi hi alex_a
07:51 magnuse i have played a little with koha and ajax before - i have an opac that fetches and displays data from freebase, but there seems to be some problem at the moment...
07:52 magnuse bonjour alex_a
07:54 alex_a hi magnuse rangi
07:56 magnuse btw: i have been thinking maybe e could do more enhanced content for the opac with ajax, to increase the responsiveness of the pages themselves and to get less feature bloat...
07:56 rangi yup
08:00 magnuse and maybe we could have some modular way to include code for enhanced content too...
08:01 rangi yeah :)
08:01 reiveune hello
08:01 wahanui privet, reiveune
08:06 kmkale @weather Mumbai
08:06 huginn kmkale: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 34.0�C (1:10 PM IST on November 08, 2011). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Falling).
08:11 magnuse @wunder boo
08:11 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 6.0�C (8:50 AM CET on November 08, 2011). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Windchill: 4.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
09:04 Oak magnuse
09:04 magnuse Oak
09:04 Oak :) kia ora #koha
09:32 slef @later tell BobB No, I wasn't. Sorry. You can leave messages for me and I do usually see them before too long :)
09:32 huginn slef: The operation succeeded.
11:58 kf hi #koha
12:01 magnuse guten tag kf
12:06 Amit_Gupta heya kf
12:10 kf hi magnuse :)
12:46 kmkale @quote random
12:46 huginn kmkale: Quote #135: "rangi: $tempate->{VARS}->{'LoginBranchname'} - without the typo" (added by cait at 07:30 PM, May 20, 2011)
12:46 kmkale @quote random
12:46 huginn kmkale: Quote #24: "<kmkale> interesting word munin. in many indian languages we have a word munim who used to be a sort of accountant for all businessmen" (added by gmcharlt at 02:07 PM, August 07, 2009)
12:46 kmkale :)
12:49 jcamins_away o/
12:56 jwagner @quote random
12:56 huginn jwagner: Quote #2: "<jwagner> Hope springs eternal in little kitty hearts. Better watch the doors :-)" (added by gmcharlt at 04:04 PM, June 03, 2009)
13:22 kf @quote random
13:22 huginn kf: Quote #107: "<kmkale> This is a food channel. Sometimes we discuss Koha too ;)" (added by jwagner at 02:49 PM, November 29, 2010)
13:22 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn.
13:25 jcamins this?
13:25 wahanui this is a pizza topping
13:25 kf lol
13:26 jcamins quote #107: "<kmkale> This?
13:26 wahanui hmmm... quote #107: "<kmkale> This is a food channel. Sometimes we discuss Koha too ;)" (added by jwagner at 02:49 PM, November 29, 2010)
13:57 anathemizatu Hello everybody. I have a question: I have installed Koha 3.0 with Debian Squeeze, as a .deb package. And can
13:58 nengard anathemizatu you're going to want to get a newer version of Koha - 3.0 isn't supported anymore - 3.6 or 3.4.5 would be best
13:59 anathemizatu Are there .deb packages for the new version or i'll have to install it manually?
14:00 oleonard http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.4_on_Debian_Squeeze
14:00 oleonard That is probably slightly out of date with the release of 3.6.0.
14:01 * oleonard wonders if you get 3.6 if you look for the stable version now
14:01 * oleonard is not a packages guy
14:03 jcamins anathemizatu: there are no packages for 3.0. Check, but I suspect you installed 3.6, which has the version number "3.6.0"
14:04 jcamins (this is good news:)
14:04 anathemizatu I'll try 3.6, thanks. I just wanted to get more information about koha and zebra integration, as i cannot find any suitable information for me. Can you please give me some links to good documentation?
14:04 jcamins manual?
14:04 wahanui well, manual is at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation
14:04 jcamins anathemizatu: ^^
14:05 jcamins anathemizatu: with the packages Zebra is configured for you.
14:06 jcamins anathemizatu: you're not going to find much about Koha and Zebra integration as such because right now Koha's indexing engine is Zebra. Period. So it's integrated in the same way that MySQL is integrated: it has to be used.
14:06 jcamins (don't use NoZebra)
14:07 jcamins anathemizatu: presumably there is a problem you're trying to solve?
14:14 anathemizatu 1. The Koha version that I get is: "Server information Koha version: 3.04.05.000", event though I installed it from debian repozitory on squeeze.
14:15 anathemizatu So I guess that I should first upgrade to some more recent version manually
14:16 maximep 3.4.5 is recent. Probably no packages of 3.6 yet
14:16 jcamins anathemizatu: no, that sounds like a good version.
14:16 jcamins That's the version I'm running.
14:17 anathemizatu Ok. I thought that 3.04 is different from 3.4. Sorry
14:17 jcamins I'm probably going to wait until 3.6.1 to switch to the 3.6 branch.
14:17 oleonard The numbering scheme can be confusing
14:17 oleonard 3.04.05 = 3.4.5
14:18 oleonard 3.00.04 = 3.04
14:18 oleonard (someone please correct me if I'm wrong)
14:19 jcamins oleonard: 3.00.04.103 = 3.0.4. (I think the last part is 103... it's something like that, anyway)
14:21 anathemizatu Onw more question: How can I find out when Koha uses mysql and when the information indexed from zebra?
14:26 jcamins anathemizatu: Zebra is used for all searches of records.
14:27 jcamins (but the records are retrieved from MySQL for everything other than the search results page)
14:33 anathemizatu I set up a primitive way to test Zebra connectivity: I don "koha-stop-zebra" and afterwards start the zebra server manually:"zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/sites/libtest2/koha-conf.xml". The idea is that when "NoZebra" is set to "Don't Use", I get the search results as they should be. But I get no messages in Zebra
14:34 anathemizatu When I search with the "noZebra" set to "Use", I get the following messages: "16:27:46-08/11 zebrasrv(1) [log] dict_lookup_grep: (\x01\x0B)(l(i|\xC3\xAD|\xC3\xAC|\xC3\xAE|\xE1\xBB\x8B|\xC4\xA9|\xC4\xAD|\xC4\xAF|\xC7\x90|\xC8\x89|\xC8\x8B)t(e|\xC3\xA9|\xC3\xA8|\xC3\xAA|\xE1\xBA\xBD|\xC4\x95|\xC4\x99|\xC4\x97|\xC4\x9B|\xC8\x85|\xC8\x87)r(a|\xC3\xA1|\xC3\xA0|\xC3\xA3|\xC3\xA5|\xC3\xA2|\xC4\x83|\xC4\x85|\xC8\xA7|\xC7\x8E|\xC8\x81|\xC8\x83)t(u|\xC3\xBA|\xC
14:35 anathemizatu But I get no search results. So that means that Zebra doesn't import the required information from koha?
14:36 kf I am not sure, there might be a misunderstanding about zebra and no zebra
14:36 kf for a first
14:36 kf nozebra is not recommended
14:36 kf it has been removed from the web installer even and it has bugs
14:36 kf you shoudl always use zebra
14:36 kf so don't use nozebra
14:37 kf zebra is used to search the bibliographic data
14:37 kf patrons search uses mysql
14:37 anathemizatu I search in the books catalogue, from OPAC
14:37 kf when you use the opac or the advanced search, keyword searches in koha it will use zebra for searching
14:38 jcamins anathemizatu: in that case, your searches are using Zebra.
14:38 kf yes
14:38 kf but you shoudl really leave he system preference at 'don't use' nozebra
14:38 jcamins anathemizatu: what is it you're trying to do, exactly?
14:39 anathemizatu The thing is that I try to set up a working instance of Koha for a library from Republic of Moldova. And Zebra is crucial to that library, as it has to export data using Z39.50 to other libraries from the country
14:40 oleonard anathemizatu: So you want other libraries to be able to connect to yours using Z39.50?
14:40 jcamins anathemizatu: you just have to enable a public Z39.50 server then.
14:41 jcamins anathemizatu: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=5908
14:42 anathemizatu zebra already has a Z39.50 server included, as I understand. But it seems like no data is indexed into it
14:42 jcamins In that file, do you see where it says "Uncomment the following entry..."?
14:43 jcamins anathemizatu: how can you tell no data is indexed?
14:44 jcamins I've always had the packages work right off for me, so I suspect this probably has something to do with you trying to use NoZebra.
14:46 magnus_afk anathemizatu: does searching work when you search in the opac?
14:48 anathemizatu I've already written that when "NoZebra" is set to "Don't Use", the searching works but I get no reaction from zebrasrv. When "NoZebra" is "Use", the searching doesn't work, but zebrasrv reacts to the searches I make
14:48 oleonard What do you mean by "no reaction from zebrasrv?"
14:49 magnus_afk and what do you mean by "the searching works"?
14:49 kf hm
14:49 kf do you have nonlatin characters?
14:49 kf do you get no results with your search or too many/wrong results?
14:50 anathemizatu No results. In future the library might have books in russian, but now we use only latin characters for testing
14:50 kf so search is not working means that you don't get any results?
14:51 anathemizatu with "Don't Use" NoZebra, zebrasrv outputs no messages and the searches return the results
14:51 anathemizatu with "Use" Nozebra, I get no search results
14:51 magnus_afk anathemizatu: that sounds perfect...
14:51 kf yep
14:52 anathemizatu But zebrasrv returns the following message:16:27:46-08/11 zebrasrv(1) [log] dict_lookup_grep: (\x01\x0B)(l(i|\xC3\xAD|\xC3\xAC|\xC3\xAE|\xE1\xBB\x8B|\xC4\xA9|\xC4\xAD|\xC4\xAF|\xC7\x90|\xC8\x89|\xC8\x8B)t(e|\xC3\xA9|\xC3\xA8|\xC3\xAA|\xE1\xBA\xBD|\xC4\x95|\xC4\x99|\xC4\x97|\xC4\x9B|\xC8\x85|\xC8\x87)r(a|\xC3\xA1|\xC3\xA0|\xC3\xA3|\xC3\xA5|\xC3\xA2|\xC4\x83|\xC4\x85|\xC8\xA7|\xC7\x8E|\xC8\x81|\xC8\x83)t(u|\xC3\xBA|\xC3\xB9|\xC3\xBB|\xC5\xA9|\xC5\xAD|\x
14:52 magnus_afk forget about NoZebra, the sooner the better
14:52 kf yes, leave it to don't use and concentrate on making your search work
14:52 magnus_afk NoZebra = Don't use. Period.
14:56 anathemizatu Ok, thanks. I just thought that the following phrase "{Use,Don't use}the Zebra search engine. It is recommended to use Zebra; the option to not use Zebra is deprecated and is not guaranteed to work." refers to using Zebra, not to the parameter "NoZebra"
14:56 magnus_afk yeah, that syspref is really weirdly worded
14:57 kf it's why we try not to generate negative sysprefs now
14:57 kf it gets too confusing
14:58 anathemizatu In 3.6 is the syspref set up as pozitive?
14:58 magnus_afk anathemizatu: you are right. NoZebra should be "Use"! i'm getting it backwards
14:58 magnus_afk NoZebra = [Use] the Zebra search engine. It is recommended to use Zebra; the option to not use Zebra is deprecated and is not guaranteed to work.
14:59 magnus_afk i think it used to be the other way around, hence our confusion...
14:59 anathemizatu So how do I set up after that the search to work? Should it work out of the box?
15:00 magnus_afk yup, it should
15:01 anathemizatu Thanks
15:01 magnus_afk but does it?
15:02 anathemizatu It does not
15:03 magnus_afk you get no results when you search?
15:03 anathemizatu Yes
15:03 magnus_afk both in the opac and in the staff client?
15:04 anathemizatu In opac, and in the staff client when searching in the catalogue
15:05 anathemizatu That is why I need more information, in order to properly troubleshoot the way it is integrated with Koha/Mysql
15:05 magnus_afk hm, first thing i'd try is to rebuild the zebra index
15:05 wizzyrea searching faq?
15:05 wahanui searching faq is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/
15:06 magnus_afk for the packages that would be koha-rebuild-zebra -f instancename
15:06 wizzyrea ooh we should add that to the faq
15:07 anathemizatu Thanks. I was doing it without "-f"
15:07 magnus_afk ah, the -f makes sure all the records are indexed
15:07 anathemizatu Now I get some errors, zebra_lock_create fail fname=/var/lock/koha/libtest2/biblios/norm..LCK [Permission denied]
15:07 anathemizatu I'll be working on the permissions
15:08 anathemizatu Goodbye everybody, thank you very much for your help
15:10 magnus_afk next quesstion would have been: did you run that as sudo?
15:20 oleonard My next question would have been "What have I got in my pocket?"
15:23 jcamins_away oleonard: a good choice, especially when your life is on the line.
15:34 wizzyrea whatever it is I hope you're still happy to see me.
15:34 * wizzyrea kids
15:38 kf hm?
15:40 oleonard http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OrAreYouJustHappyToSeeMe
15:42 jcamins_away oleonard: don't do it! Don't trap kf in tvtropes!
15:42 * oleonard got dragged into "Gaussian Girl" but managed to break free
15:43 * wizzyrea dares not click on that link
15:45 kf ok, I will not click
15:45 * oleonard remembers when he first heard that joke when he was a kid... thought it was so original at the time, and hilarious
16:02 kf outlook--
16:06 * oleonard has been happily outlook-free for several years now...wouldn't want to go back!
16:06 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7191] C4::Circulation exports non-existant subroutine GetBorrowerIssues <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7191>
16:09 reiveune bye
16:13 * oleonard discovers the html_break filter in T:T: http://template-toolkit.org/docs/manual/Filters.html#section_html_break_html_para_break
16:22 kf there are lots of cool filters .)
16:22 oleonard However, the |html filter doesn't seem to be working :(
16:22 kf I used one for the messaging tab to keep the line breaks :)
16:22 kf oleonard: what do you want to do?
16:23 oleonard I would expect [% title |html %] to output a title with ampersands escaped as &
16:23 oleonard It doesn't.
16:24 kf :(
16:24 oleonard Oh wait, my mistake.
16:25 oleonard the & was in a subtitle
16:25 oleonard False alarm.
16:25 kf phew
16:27 kf totally dark outside :(
16:29 kf time to leave
16:29 kf bye all
17:01 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7194] OPAC detail and recent comments pages require corrections for XHTML validity <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7194>
17:10 oleonard Take that you slackers.
17:33 libsysguy is the function build_issue_data in moremember.pl redefined for anybody else?
17:35 cait ?
17:36 libsysguy i keep getting an error message in the logs that it is redefined
17:37 cait hm
17:37 cait not even sure what it does :)
17:46 libsysguy I think it insterts into issues
17:47 oleonard A blast from the past: http://www.screencast.com/t/ma41rAf9yGaO
17:57 * wizzyrea startles
17:57 wizzyrea where did you find that?
17:57 wizzyrea you know there are some things I like about that lol
17:58 cait :)
17:58 * wizzyrea ponders an intranet coloring spree
17:58 wizzyrea "I want BLUE, and GREEN, and YELLOW"
17:58 wizzyrea ^.^ just kidding
17:59 wizzyrea that's not accessible :P
17:59 oleonard I found it on my computer
17:59 wizzyrea I like the brown tho
17:59 oleonard That was the template I designed for my library, color-coordinated with our public site of the time.
17:59 wizzyrea aww
18:00 oleonard Koha 2.something
18:00 wizzyrea we should make a screenshot gallery on the wiki
18:00 wizzyrea :)
18:00 wizzyrea to preserve that
18:00 oleonard Maybe even 1.something...
18:00 cait +1
18:00 cait :)
18:32 Oak me go now. good night.
18:45 * chris_n threatens to go "chrome-al" on firefox
18:45 rangi morning
18:45 chris_n heya rangi
18:46 chris_n got your message about 3.6.x; I'll try just as soon as I can break loose of a few moments
18:47 cait morning :)
18:57 * oleonard wonders how Firefox could crash so catastrophically that it would need to be reinstalled
18:57 oleonard re: Bug 7192
18:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7192 critical, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , can't print in FF without tools permission
18:58 nengard oleonard, i have no clue
18:58 nengard but when it tried to reoopen it it took 30 min to get google up
18:58 nengard and then when i clicked to open a new tab it wouldn't open because it timed out again
18:58 nengard everytime i restarted with a new session it did the same thing
18:58 nengard i restarted my computer and had the same issues
18:58 nengard the only way i could get the darn thing to start up again was to reinstall
18:59 nengard maybe it was a plugin i had or something
18:59 nengard but i needed to do my job and couldn't
19:02 * chris_n is amazed at nothing firefox can do badly
19:03 chris_n at least when it involves js
19:04 rangi and if you think thats bad, try ie 8
19:04 jcamins_away rangi: that's cheating.
19:04 chris_n hence my threat to go to google chrome
19:04 chris_n ie stinks, period
19:06 rangi I use chromium not chrome
19:06 rangi and firefox, interchangably
19:07 chris_n for example: right now ff's plug-in container has 64%+ of one of my cpu's
19:07 oleonard nengard: The only difference I see in the record you posted the screenshot of and the record I tested with is the patron image
19:07 chris_n mind boggling
19:07 oleonard But re-testing with a patron image added doesn't make FF go crashy
19:07 nengard okay, i know it happened
19:07 nengard and wished i had recorded my actions before the major crash
19:07 nengard but another library tried it on all those OSes I listed
19:07 nengard and it crashes for them everytime
19:07 oleonard Of course, we just need to find out what the trigger was
19:08 nengard did you give the patron the exact same permissions I listed?
19:08 oleonard Yes
19:08 nengard hmmm
19:09 chris_n eekkk! killing it just caused it to respawn and consume 94%+
19:09 jcamins_away chris_n: I think I may identified the problem here. In what kind of OS does kill -9 cause something to restart?
19:09 oleonard nengard: I have a report on my intranet that crashes Firefox every time I try to print it, so I know it's possible.
19:10 chris_n lol
19:11 nengard hmmmm
19:12 nengard and i did switch to chrome for a few months but i didn't like it
19:12 nengard when FF7 came out and it was faster than other FFs I switched back
19:18 rangi jcamins_away: same pid, or is something respawning it?
19:19 jcamins_away rangi: chris_n is the one with the problem.
19:19 jcamins_away I was just commenting on the fact that kill -9 should kill -9 things.
19:19 rangi it may well do
19:20 rangi but something else might be restarting it
19:20 rangi ive seen that plenty
19:20 chris_n I think the main ff process respawns it
19:20 rangi yeah
19:20 chris_n I'm guessing there is a memory leak in the container process somewhere
19:21 chris_n this happens after I open a zillion tabs for 2 zillion hours
19:21 * chris_n loves hyperbole
19:21 chris_n may tabs with heavy js as well
19:38 rangi https://github.com/chrisforbes/odr
19:38 rangi yay!
19:39 rangi chris forbes works down on level 2
19:39 rangi https://twitter.com/#!/ijw_chrisf/status/133773279738593280
19:39 wizzyrea HA!
19:39 wizzyrea nice
19:40 wizzyrea making_something_to_increase_ability_to_be_lazy++
19:40 rangi well it means when someone sends me an odt by email, mutt can just spawn that
19:40 wizzyrea yea, exactly!
19:40 rangi which is a total win wwhen you read url mail over ssh
19:41 wizzyrea hehe
19:55 rhcl libsysguy
19:55 wahanui libsysguy is, like, Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck
19:55 libsysguy hey rhcl
19:55 wizzyrea oleonard reminds me via blog post that i was going to look at "my recent comments"
19:55 libsysguy so I have a problem guys
19:55 libsysguy and I think it might be a big one
19:56 nengard uh oh
19:56 libsysguy for some reason checkin/checkouts are working randomly
19:56 libsysguy i am wondering if there is a way to check the consistency of the issues table
19:56 wizzyrea :O
19:56 rangi http://www.flickr.com/photos/ranginui/6286655293/in/photostream recent comments with libravatar
19:57 wizzyrea naw, not just "recent comments"
19:57 wizzyrea but "my recent comments"
19:57 wizzyrea just ime.
19:57 libsysguy I did a big delete of duplicate biblios a week or two ago from when the matching rules were borken
19:57 wizzyrea me
19:57 rangi randomly in what way?
19:57 libsysguy well…books that are "checked out" are on the shelf
19:57 libsysguy and sometimes items that show checked in are most definitely checked out
19:57 oleonard It's always all about you wizzyrea
19:57 wizzyrea it is, it so is.
19:57 rangi but they are marked out in issues?
19:57 wizzyrea wait, what?
19:57 wahanui it has been said that wait, is it only in items?
19:58 libsysguy yeah they are marked out
19:58 rangi or in the items table only
19:58 libsysguy i am pretty sure its in issues
19:58 rangi you will want to check that
19:58 libsysguy my overdues script is grabbing them
19:58 libsysguy and im 99% sure the overdue function grabs from issues
19:58 rangi well if its out in issues
19:59 rangi then koha thinks its out
19:59 libsysguy right
19:59 rangi theres no way for it to know otherwise
19:59 libsysguy right
19:59 wizzyrea i have seen stuff kinda like that, but it's almost always human error
19:59 wizzyrea or not watching the screen
19:59 libsysguy i am wondering if it is too…but they have the print slips to back it up
19:59 libsysguy well on the ones that are showing in that are out
20:00 rangi can you replicate, return an item and not have it be returned
20:00 rangi or issue one, and not have it put a row in the issues table
20:00 libsysguy that is probably my next step
20:00 wizzyrea going too fast is another culprit
20:00 cait hm
20:00 cait have we ruled out indexing problems?
20:00 rangi yes
20:01 cait ok
20:01 rangi if its overdues cait
20:01 rangi id try to issue one of the ones they say has been issued
20:01 cait I think I didn't get part of the problem description
20:01 rangi and see what happens
20:01 libsysguy anybody have a duplicated function "build_issue_data" in moremember.pl
20:01 wizzyrea libsysguy: are these hourly issues?
20:01 libsysguy not sure
20:01 libsysguy if they are i'd like to find out
20:01 cait hmm
20:01 rangi no
20:01 cait you could do some checks perhaps
20:01 rangi its only there once for me
20:02 libsysguy i keep seeing that in the log
20:02 libsysguy hmm
20:02 cait like compare the items with onloan = a date to the entries in issues
20:02 libsysguy i definitly have 2 build issue data functions
20:02 rangi yeah you shouldnt
20:02 libsysguy and that seems like a pretty likely problem
20:02 rangi could be
20:02 wizzyrea merge issue possibly?
20:02 wizzyrea are they different?
20:02 libsysguy hmm ok I'll investigate it
20:02 rangi but moremember.pl doesnt do the circ
20:02 libsysguy yeah maybe
20:02 libsysguy oh?
20:03 rangi yeah it doesnt
20:03 libsysguy well poop
20:03 rangi its circ/circulation.pl
20:03 rangi moremember.pl just displays stuff
20:03 rangi try to replicate first
20:03 libsysguy ok will do
20:03 rangi or you will goose chase yourself to death
20:03 wizzyrea ^^
20:03 libsysguy I'm in my phys2 lab atm
20:03 libsysguy but ill check it tonight
20:03 wizzyrea makes you tired and the goose likes it.
20:04 oleonard I've met a few geese and they're far more likely to chase you.
20:04 libsysguy haha indeed
20:04 wizzyrea hehe
20:04 wizzyrea (they still like it)
20:14 * magnuse ponders turning metadata from doaj.org into marc records for easy importing into koha http://www.doaj.org/doaj?func=loadTempl&templ=faq#metadata
20:15 rangi hmmm
20:15 nengard ooo
20:15 rangi lemme see what formats its in
20:16 rangi dublin core
20:16 magnuse csv
20:16 magnuse and oai_dc
20:16 rangi easy peasy then
20:16 magnuse :-)
20:16 rangi you can use eythians csv to marc script
20:16 magnuse ah yes, of course
20:17 rangi and once you do it
20:17 magnuse it might also be interesting to split it up based on subject or language, perhaps
20:17 rangi then you just follow the rss
20:17 rangi of journals added in the last 7 days
20:17 rangi and do updates
20:17 rangi :)
20:18 magnuse yay, sounds like a project - then it's just a question of finding the time ;-)
20:18 rangi *nod*
20:19 magnuse ok, i'm lazy where does eythian's script live again?
20:19 rangi 2 secs
20:20 rangi http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=koha.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/import_branch
20:20 rangi in import/csv
20:21 rangi take a look at example.sh
20:21 magnuse ah, thanks a tonne
20:26 magnuse oh my, there's a lot of effort put into that csvtomarc.p script ;-)
20:26 magnuse eythian++
20:30 rangi yes, yes there is
20:33 cait which brings us to the question: when will he be back? :)
20:33 rangi today
20:34 rangi he was in nz yesterday
20:39 cait ohoh
20:46 wizzyrea what table are the outgoing email messages kept in again?
20:46 * wizzyrea consulted the schema, it didn't have a comment for that one :/
20:46 oleonard schema?
20:46 wahanui schema is tracked in git.
20:46 oleonard :P
20:46 wizzyrea schema.koha-community.org
20:47 wizzyrea http://schema.koha-community.org
20:47 wizzyrea schema is also found at http://schema.koha-community.org
20:47 wahanui okay, wizzyrea.
20:47 oleonard message_queue I think
20:47 rangi wizzyrea: you can help
20:47 rangi there are comments
20:47 wizzyrea i kno!
20:47 rangi waiting to be signed off
20:47 wizzyrea der, that should have been obvious eh
20:47 rangi once they are in master i can update the schema :)
20:47 wizzyrea ok ok :)
20:48 rangi :)
20:48 wizzyrea slavedriver. <3
20:48 rangi thats me :)
20:48 * wizzyrea teases
20:48 rangi ppl call it mentoring
20:48 * oleonard heads off to vote
20:48 rangi i call it making ppl do the stuff i dont want to
20:48 wizzyrea lulz
20:50 magnuse tee hee
20:56 wizzyrea oh my look at all of those patches
20:57 wizzyrea worth it to apply them all then squash or better to do them one by one?
21:00 cait1 patches?
21:00 wahanui patches are on the bug
21:00 wizzyrea the ones for bug 6716
21:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6716 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , Database Documentation
21:00 rangi wizzyrea: you need to test it still works
21:00 rangi you could do them all
21:01 rangi and if mysql -u user -p database < kohastruture.sql still works fine
21:01 rangi squash it
21:01 rangi if not, find the broken one
21:01 rangi or you could do one by one .. i suspect its not likely to break
21:01 rangi so doing them all is probably ok
21:01 wizzyrea right
21:02 nengard i did them one by one cause the RM wanted it that way :) hehe
21:02 nengard many of them were pushed already though -don't know if they were marked that way
21:03 rangi yes i removed all that were pushed
21:03 wizzyrea hmm
21:03 rangi but the date they were added
21:04 rangi vs the date i said pushed
21:04 rangi will tell ya
21:18 rangi look its schuster !!
21:18 rangi ltns
21:18 schuster Has anyone had experience developing QR codes in Koha yet? Just curious what others are thinking about using.
21:18 schuster Hey... was thinking of everyone at KohaCon... Can't wait to view presentations given.
21:18 rangi we used qr codes
21:18 rangi and koha
21:19 rangi to do nametags for kohacon10
21:19 schuster :)
21:19 rangi you can make the qr code just resolve to a url since koha has persitent url's
21:19 schuster I'm thinking about putting QR codes on the Details page so a person could scan it and have the call number mobile.
21:19 rangi yup
21:19 rangi that'd work
21:20 rangi you could totally do that by putting the image url in 856u
21:20 schuster Therefore, I was wondering if there were any packages already being used before I go off and find my own Debian QR library to use.
21:20 rangi i forget what we used
21:20 schuster I'm thinking of a perl program that dynamically would build them.
21:21 schuster QR code that is.
21:21 schuster Then putting that code on the right side below the search other XXXX for this title.
21:21 schuster I generate QR codes using lots of different tools, but this would be something "native" to Koha and PERL.
21:22 wizzyrea there's a library for it
21:22 wizzyrea sec
21:23 schuster I've found this one HTML::QRCode and Text::QRCode and a Perl program that uses them...
21:23 wizzyrea oh well never mind then.
21:23 schuster But they are not Dependancies already within Koha...
21:23 schuster I have another question but it has to wait until tomorrow.. Dealing with Debian upgrades!
21:31 cait1 schuster: I don't think we have qr codes in koha yet - but sounds like a nice addition :)
21:40 schuster Thanks - from what I have been talking about this afternoon with another tech person in the district I have bigger problems... Debian upgrades! I'll be back tomorrow!
21:55 schuster see you all tomorrow!
21:56 eythian hi all
21:59 trea o/
21:59 wizzyrea eythian!
21:59 wahanui eythian is in NZ. ;) or a good influence
21:59 wizzyrea hi!
22:00 eythian hello
22:00 wahanui what's up, eythian
22:01 magnuse kia ora eythian
22:01 eythian hi magnuse
22:01 * magnuse is in awe of csvtomarc.pl
22:02 eythian horrified awe?
22:02 magnuse (hm, that didn't look right, but you know what i mean :-)
22:02 magnuse not at all!
22:02 eythian heh
22:03 eythian it has grown from a simple script to a dynamically programmed monstrosity a bit :)
22:03 magnuse now if i could only figure out how to combine two columns with some text between them...
22:03 magnuse startyear + " - " + endyear
22:03 magnuse ...sort of thing
22:04 magnuse nah, i wouldn't call it a monstrosity - it's impressive!
22:04 eythian hmm, that might be possible, I can't remember
22:05 eythian All the functions in there are things I've added as I've found I needed them, so it's possible I've never needed to do that.
22:05 magnuse never mind, i'll bang my head on it a bit more :-)
22:05 magnuse i think "combine" is supposed to do it
22:06 * wizzyrea was admiring the documentation in that script
22:06 magnuse but the syntax get somewhat complicated there ;-)
22:06 wizzyrea oh lord I was doing something... sheesh
22:06 eythian wizzyrea: I have to document it, or I forget how to make it do things :)
22:06 wizzyrea *nod*
22:06 wizzyrea but you don't have to document it in ways that others understand, see
22:07 wizzyrea and you make it so others can understand
22:07 wizzyrea that is admirable.
22:07 eythian magnuse: yep, combine will do that
22:07 wizzyrea :)
22:07 eythian also, usually I write the documentation while the other half of my brain is working out how I'm going to actually implement it.
22:07 magnuse what she said
22:08 eythian magnuse: although, it's possible that combine doesn't have the ability to not take a substring, because I've never needed that :)
22:08 eythian it'd be easy to add though
22:09 magnuse ah, that could be, perhaps
22:09 eythian you could add an arg for it right under the comment that says:
22:09 eythian # Here's the deal: no adding more stuff here until the copy-pasta bits
22:09 eythian # are refactored out.
22:09 eythian :)
22:09 eythian (of course, you'd have to refactor it, or you're violating the comment ;)
22:11 magnuse ooh, clever trick! ;-)
22:15 eythian it was once a 100 line script. It's now a 2,100 line script.
22:15 eythian also, the most current version is in the rbnz_import branch
22:15 eythian (because that's what I'm currently working on - I merge it back into import_branch when I'm done)
22:20 magnuse ah hah!
22:21 magnuse is that something you'd ever submit for inclusion in koha? seems like something others might find useful...
22:21 rangi i think something that could live at contribs.koha-community.org
22:21 rangi when we get that back up
22:21 rangi in the migration tools area
22:21 eythian yeah, I plan to merge it into druthb's migration toolbox at some stage, too.
22:22 rangi cos its not relaly koha specific
22:23 magnuse true
22:23 rangi i think it only uses a couple of C4 modules eh?
22:24 wizzyrea speaking of contribs... where should that live?
22:24 rangi whereever someone is volunteering to host it ;)
22:24 wizzyrea keke
22:24 wizzyrea fair enough.
22:24 magnuse hm, actually it needs both koha-config.xml and the C4 directory
22:24 rangi yep, for the mappings
22:25 magnuse yep
22:25 eythian yeah, just enough to look up mappings so you can give it column names and it works out the marc
22:25 magnuse so not quite independent from koha...
22:25 eythian I've been thinking of making that optional
22:25 rangi yep, but could be
22:25 rangi yeah
22:25 eythian I just haven't got around to it
22:25 magnuse hehe
22:25 rangi mostly it exists so we dont have to use the proprietary MarcEdit
22:25 rangi :)
22:26 rangi so it might help others avoid that too
22:26 rangi which is no bad thing
22:26 eythian also, makes for good reproducability of migration processes
22:26 eythian (as it's intended to be used by scripts)
22:27 rangi *nod*
22:31 magnuse doaj in koha: http://doaj.priv.bibkat.no/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=su:History - some encoding messup, though...
22:31 rangi rock on
22:32 rangi magnuse++
22:32 cait1 magnuse++ :)
22:32 cait1 and wb eythian :)
22:33 magnuse eythian++
22:34 eythian hi cait1
22:35 magnuse input, output and (meta-)script is here: http://div.libriotech.no/doaj2koha/
22:35 magnuse that encoding thing will have to wait for another day
22:35 rangi noice!
22:35 magnuse good night, #koha!
22:35 eythian bye magnuse!
22:36 rangi is it in git?
22:36 * rangi might do you a patch :)
22:39 magnuse rangi: https://gist.github.com/1349518
22:39 magnuse good night!
22:39 rangi cool :)
22:39 rangi night
22:42 JoeLib001 Hello, I am trying to find the best way to enter a subscription that is twice monthly in the serials module. The closest thing is a twice a week option. Is there a way to setup a subscription to be twice monthly?
22:43 eythian magnus_away: the latest version of my script flags the MARC records as UTF8, that might solve your encoding problem
22:46 wizzyrea wb mfann
22:46 mfann what?
22:46 wizzyrea welcome back :P
22:47 rangi JoeLib001: what version of koha?
22:47 mfann was i gone?
22:47 wizzyrea brieflty
22:47 JoeLib001 let me check
22:47 mfann hmmm
22:47 wizzyrea nm lol.
22:47 wizzyrea how about this: hi, nice to see you here.
22:48 mfann thanks
22:49 rangi in 3.6.0 there is a 1 every 2 weeks
22:49 rangi which is pretty close
22:49 JoeLib001 v. 3.04.05.00
22:49 rangi should be there too
22:49 rangi 1/2 weeks
22:49 rangi it goes
22:50 JoeLib001 Yeah...
22:50 rangi 1 a week
22:50 rangi 1 every 2 weeks
22:50 rangi not 2 a week :)
22:50 JoeLib001 I saw that, I was just wondering, if there was some way to get a 1 every month.
22:50 JoeLib001 I mean 2 every month.
22:50 wizzyrea 1 every 2 weeks is as close as you'll get
22:50 rangi umm wouldnt that be one every 2 weeks?
22:50 JoeLib001 'bah...., this periodicals stuff is crazy. hehe. :-)
22:50 rangi :)
22:51 wizzyrea :D
22:51 eythian http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/3650552.html <-- "librarygate"
22:54 JoeLib001 Does that reset every month or will it make it so that the sixth week it will expect a magazine even though it is the first of the month?
22:54 wizzyrea O.O
22:54 rangi i wont reset every month
22:54 rangi it even
22:55 eythian wizzyrea: twice a month is not quite the same as every 2 weeks
22:55 rangi thats why she said as close as you will get
22:55 JoeLib001 That's what I thought. hehe.
22:55 eythian oh, yeah
22:55 JoeLib001 Ah well.
22:55 rangi basically 2 a month is without periodicity
22:55 JoeLib001 Awesome.
22:55 rangi or irregular
22:55 rangi because it will be
22:55 JoeLib001 Or what's the opposite of that word? Hehehe.
22:55 wizzyrea eythian: pwnt
22:56 JoeLib001 Unawesome?
22:56 JoeLib001 hehe.
22:56 rangi :)
22:56 wizzyrea but I still luv u ;)
22:56 JoeLib001 Can't always have your cake and eat it too I guess.
22:57 wizzyrea but you can always hire a bunny to climb out of it,
22:57 wizzyrea SUPRISE!
22:57 JoeLib001 Hehe.
22:57 eythian http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/File:Rabbit.JPG <-- one like this?
22:57 wizzyrea HAHA
22:58 wizzyrea that is awesome.
22:58 wizzyrea who thought that was a good idea.
22:58 wizzyrea poor kid.
22:58 JoeLib001 Consensus would be that it would be an irregular periodical then. Now I get to go down the rabbit hole. Anyone have a blue pill so I can go back home?
22:58 JoeLib001 Hehe.
22:59 wizzyrea oh dear.
22:59 rangi JoeLib001: i cant think how to programme it in a general way
23:00 rangi does it always come on the same date(s) every month?
23:00 JoeLib001 Not necessarily. :-)
23:00 rangi yeah
23:01 rangi i think without periodicity then im afraid
23:02 JoeLib001 Thanks for the help. :-)
23:04 cait1 night #koha
23:05 eythian bye cait1