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rangi |
paulnz: ill make it work |
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paulnz |
rangi - excellent |
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bg |
memcached? |
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eythian |
wrongwindow.com? |
00:45 |
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bg |
heh no - |
00:45 |
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bg |
I was seeing in wahanui had anything for memcached ;) |
00:45 |
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eythian |
ah right :) |
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slef |
the answer? |
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wahanui |
the answer is always go back to sleep |
01:01 |
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slef |
ok wahanui! |
01:01 |
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wahanui |
i am a bot |
01:01 |
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slef |
i am not |
01:06 |
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cait |
lol |
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eythian |
http://www.nzonscreen.com/title/new-zild-2005 |
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wizzyrea |
this is educational. |
02:26 |
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rangi |
heh |
02:29 |
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eythian |
call it research :) |
02:29 |
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wizzyrea |
it totally is. |
02:29 |
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wizzyrea |
the one that still gets me |
02:30 |
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wizzyrea |
is aeroplane |
02:30 |
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wizzyrea |
well more like aeroplin |
02:30 |
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wizzyrea |
to my ears |
02:31 |
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eythian |
you only really need one vowel. |
02:31 |
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ibeardslee |
welsh? |
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wizzyrea |
"strangled it's first vowel" |
02:32 |
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wizzyrea |
it's a quote, don't be mad. |
02:32 |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
02:32 |
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eythian |
heh |
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rangi |
paulnz: recommendations are building now |
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paulnz |
nice one rangi |
03:04 |
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paulnz |
did you get hold of anyone at vic? |
03:04 |
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rangi |
not yet, i emailed dont have a reply yet, will chase up in the morning with a phone call |
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kmkale |
Namaskaar #koha |
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kmkale |
rangi aroound? |
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eythian |
http://imgur.com/HeCr1 |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7090] Add "AllowItemsOnHandCheckout" syspref to allow issue to the patron regardless of hold status <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7090> |
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magnuse |
eythian: cool picture! |
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alex_a |
hi |
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magnuse |
bonjour |
06:21 |
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wahanui |
que tal, magnuse |
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reiveune1 |
hello |
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asaurat |
hi ! |
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cait |
hi #koha |
08:29 |
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magnuse |
kia ora cait |
08:29 |
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cait |
good morning magnuse :) |
08:29 |
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* magnuse |
should have been at ili in london today... next year maybe? |
08:34 |
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cait |
hm what is ili? |
08:36 |
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magnuse |
http://www.internet-librarian.com/2011/ |
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druthb |
o/ |
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kmkale |
heya druthb |
08:46 |
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kmkale |
when are you starting? |
08:46 |
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druthb |
hi, kmkale. we leave tomorrow morning, our time. |
08:46 |
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druthb |
Can you do me a big favor right quick? |
08:46 |
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kmkale |
reaching? |
08:46 |
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kmkale |
sure |
08:46 |
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druthb |
Friday evening, Mumbai time. :) |
08:46 |
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druthb |
Try to load http://www.kathleenmscanlon.com/galleries.html.... does it work? |
08:46 |
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druthb |
http://www.kathleenmscanlon.com/galleries.html |
08:46 |
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magnuse |
\o |
08:46 |
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druthb |
(without all the extra dots..) |
08:47 |
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kmkale |
hehyes loads |
08:47 |
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druthb |
Hi, Magnus! |
08:47 |
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kmkale |
Namaaste magnuse |
08:47 |
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magnuse |
namaskar kmkale |
08:47 |
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magnuse |
druthb: works for me |
08:48 |
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kmkale |
druthb: friday is tomorrow. Planning to meet jo and brooke at Vihangs in the evening. What time are you likely to reach? |
08:48 |
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druthb |
thanx oodles magnus and kmkale. it's 0500 here...bed. We'll be there after drinks at vihangs--about 8 or 9, iirc... |
08:48 |
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druthb |
but I'm rooming with Jo and Brooke anyway. :D |
08:49 |
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kmkale |
druthb: cool. see ya soon :) |
08:49 |
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kmkale |
i'll have to split early as its Baubeej tomorrow. Diner at sisters :) |
08:50 |
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kmkale |
druthb: on the above link I am getting image not loaded in 30 seconds bunch of such messages |
08:51 |
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druthb |
I'm not surprised...you're a long way from the server. I'll take a look at some optimizes in the morning. |
08:51 |
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druthb |
Must sleep. |
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magnuse |
cait++ |
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cait |
bye all |
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oleonard |
So what was it I was going to do when I got to work? I was thinking about it three hours ago... |
12:30 |
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jcamins_away |
oleonard: meetings? |
12:30 |
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wahanui |
meetings are getting longish, and I think that's happening from folks getting slammed at work. Pop in, talk to each other more. Should make for shorter meetings and better communication. |
12:30 |
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oleonard |
No meetings. I'm all alone this morning in the library's 27th floor executive suite. |
12:32 |
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paul_p |
oleonard: 27th floor ? In Athens ? really ? The building is new then ;-) |
12:32 |
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* Danielle_ |
shudders, remembering the weekly status meeting at $job[-1] |
12:33 |
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oleonard |
I might be exaggerating just a little bit. |
12:34 |
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* jcamins_away |
adds "executive suite" to his master plan. |
12:34 |
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jcamins_away |
Not on the twenty-seventh floor, though... I don't like heights. |
12:38 |
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magnuse |
wahanui: forget meetings |
12:38 |
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wahanui |
magnuse: I forgot meetings |
12:40 |
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oleonard |
https://twitter.com/#!/oleonar[…]498678272/photo/1 |
12:41 |
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* magnuse |
tries to figure out what oleonard is reading |
12:42 |
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oleonard |
http://search.myacpl.org/cgi-b[…]blionumber=170031 |
12:43 |
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magnuse |
yay ;-) |
12:44 |
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oleonard |
Referencing rather than straight-up reading (although straight-up reading would do me better) |
12:45 |
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oleonard |
You guys are in that picture too, can you tell? |
12:47 |
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magnuse |
well, there's a koha staff screen |
12:47 |
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magnuse |
and maybe irc too? |
12:47 |
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oleonard |
That's my Chatzilla window on the right |
12:47 |
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magnuse |
yay |
12:48 |
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magnuse |
but what's that dark grey thingy with the buttons on the far left? |
12:49 |
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oleonard |
In the olden days we used to call that a phone. |
12:49 |
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magnuse |
ah |
12:49 |
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magnuse |
some sort of non-mobile? ;-) |
12:50 |
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oleonard |
The kind of phone where I have to read the instructions to do anything more complicated than a call. |
12:50 |
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magnuse |
hehe |
12:50 |
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magnuse |
the gui leaves something to be desired, then? |
12:52 |
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oleonard |
Could be worse: http://www.nasm.si.edu/imageDe[…].cfm?imageID=1654 |
12:52 |
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magnuse |
tee hee |
12:52 |
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oleonard |
^^ That's what acquisitions is going to look like when cait and I get done with it ;) |
12:53 |
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magnuse |
lol |
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magnuse |
should be a long term goal for the whole intranet |
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fabio_t |
Hi people! :) |
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oleonard |
Hi fabio_t |
13:01 |
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fabio_t |
I noticed that latest Koha versions offer .deb packages too. Is there any reason to prefer Git installation and upgrade over the .deb packaging ones for a production server (in a non-developer point of view)? |
13:02 |
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magnuse |
fabio_t: i'd say no, go with the packages |
13:02 |
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fabio_t |
hi there oleonard |
13:02 |
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fabio_t |
thank you magnuse |
13:03 |
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fabio_t |
I'm not that familiar with Git |
13:03 |
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fabio_t |
that would be easier for us. |
13:03 |
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fabio_t |
(packages) |
13:03 |
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magnuse |
you only need git if you are going to do development, or apply patches yourself |
13:04 |
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magnuse |
to run "straight koha" the packages are handy |
13:04 |
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fabio_t |
Do i need Git to apply local patches too? |
13:05 |
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magnuse |
hm, not 100% sure about the corrdct answer to that one - it certainly makes it easier, i think |
13:05 |
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magnuse |
anyone else got an opinion on that? |
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jcamins_away |
fabio_t: yes, you need to use git if you are doing any development. |
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jcamins_away |
fabio_t: but packages are *much* easier to use. |
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jcamins |
fabio_t: as a general rule, though, I'd recommend against hot-patching your production system anyway. |
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fabio_t |
thank you jcamins |
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jcamins |
Did I just make up the term "hot-patching"? It sounded good in my head, but doesn't look quite right when written. |
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magnuse |
you can also build your own packages - that way you can run off packages but also incorporate patches |
13:09 |
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* jcamins |
does that |
13:09 |
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magnuse |
debian/build-git-snapshot makes it quite easy to make packages |
13:09 |
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jcamins |
One warning about building your own packages, though: some people have trouble with it. |
13:09 |
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* magnuse |
does it too |
13:09 |
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fabio_t |
if I will develop something, moreover, i'd be happy to share with the community |
13:10 |
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magnuse |
fabio_t++ |
13:10 |
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fabio_t |
right magnuse, thanks |
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nengard |
jcamins!! need your help :) |
13:11 |
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jcamins |
fabio_t: here's what I'd recommend: use packages, but have a git install on a development system for development. If you make any changes you need for production, roll your own package, and use that. |
13:11 |
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jcamins |
nengard: uh-oh. |
13:11 |
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nengard |
hehe |
13:11 |
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jcamins |
nengard: how can I help? |
13:11 |
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nengard |
easy peasy :) |
13:12 |
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nengard |
i'm writing the analytics part of the manual |
13:12 |
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nengard |
and linda mentioned there is a delink option |
13:12 |
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nengard |
but i can't find it |
13:12 |
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nengard |
also the used in column never fills in for me |
13:12 |
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nengard |
are these bugs or am i missing a step? |
13:12 |
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jcamins |
Lemme check on Master. |
13:12 |
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nengard |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7d780d10b1349e908 |
13:13 |
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nengard |
for what i wrote so far |
13:13 |
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fabio_t |
thank you guys - I love Koha, and the whole community is great |
13:14 |
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fabio_t |
see you, I have to leave |
13:14 |
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jcamins |
One correction- "catalog" not "catlaog". ;) |
13:14 |
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magnuse |
see you fabio_t |
13:14 |
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nengard |
found the delink!! |
13:14 |
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nengard |
thanks for finding the typo |
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jcamins |
Good! |
13:14 |
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nengard |
but not sure about the used in column |
13:14 |
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jcamins |
But used in still isn't working for you? |
13:14 |
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nengard |
right |
13:15 |
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nengard |
keep in mind i might be missing a step |
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jcamins |
Checking out master now. |
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jcamins |
We're still on 3.6 for Master? Huh. Hadn't realized that. |
13:20 |
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jcamins |
nengard: additional change: I fixed the issue with the 773 indicator. |
13:20 |
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jcamins |
That is a problem only for MDAH. |
13:20 |
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nengard |
oh! good stuff |
13:20 |
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jcamins |
(retrospective problem, not going forward, once they update to 3.6) |
13:20 |
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nengard |
two more pushes: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ocs.git;a=summary |
13:21 |
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* jcamins |
is waiting for Zebra to reindex. |
13:21 |
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jcamins |
Hm. I'm not seeing the Used in. |
13:22 |
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jcamins |
Not seeing the record I just created, either... |
13:22 |
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jcamins |
Oh, cron's disabled. |
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jcamins |
I wonder why I did that. |
13:25 |
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* chris_n |
wonders what is is about "I don't provide individualized support" that some folks don't seem to understand :P |
13:25 |
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jcamins |
"Used in" is working for me. |
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jcamins |
It just says things like "1 analytics" though. No titles. |
13:26 |
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jcamins |
What was I doing on this VM? |
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jcamins |
(that was not a rhetorical question, I'm hoping I mentioned it) |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6818] acquisitions basket groups could use some design work <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6818> |
13:31 |
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jcamins |
chris_n: why do people even come up with the idea of contacting you directly? |
13:31 |
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jcamins |
nengard: you know that the "Used in" column is filled in only for the host record, right? |
13:31 |
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nengard |
jcamins I don't see used in 1 analytics ? is ther esomething i need to do to my record to make that happen? some magic? |
13:31 |
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nengard |
yes |
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nengard |
but it's not filled in on anything for me |
13:32 |
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nengard |
let me go rebuild the zebra and try one more time |
13:32 |
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jcamins |
nengard: once I reindexed, it worked properly. |
13:32 |
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nengard |
is there another cron i need? |
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jcamins |
Wait... I have a guess. |
13:32 |
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jcamins |
There shouldn't be. |
13:32 |
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jcamins |
What framework are you using? |
13:32 |
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* oleonard |
writes "contact chris_n for KOHA! help" in every public restroom |
13:32 |
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chris_n |
jcamins: perhaps they grab names, etc. from the home page of the website or some such |
13:32 |
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chris_n |
LOL |
13:32 |
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nengard |
i started with the fast add framework and then when i did the link it changed the framework to default |
13:32 |
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jcamins |
"KOHA!" help, no less. :) |
13:33 |
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magnuse |
lol |
13:33 |
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jcamins |
Your fast add framework doesn't have 773$0 and 773$9. |
13:34 |
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* chris_n |
now knows where all of the spam is coming from ;-) |
13:34 |
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jcamins |
That's one addition we need to the manual: whatever framework you use for analytics *must* have 773$9 and 773$0 defined. |
13:34 |
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nengard |
jcamins but when i edited it it changed to default framework |
13:34 |
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nengard |
but it is possible i don't have 773 in that one |
13:34 |
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nengard |
so let me fix |
13:35 |
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jcamins |
I'm guessing the problem is Javascript. |
13:35 |
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jcamins |
Where if you start out with one, and it switches to the other, it still fails to populate the 773$0 and 773$9. |
13:36 |
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jcamins |
(though I can't recreate the problem) |
13:36 |
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nengard |
grrr |
13:36 |
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nengard |
will try again after i get bg coffee :) |
13:38 |
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jcamins |
Errr... isn't it a bit late for bg to be hanging around? |
13:38 |
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jcamins |
Shouldn't he be over Europe now? |
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sekjal |
jcamins: our flight leaves at 8:30 tonight |
13:43 |
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jcamins |
sekjal: oh, Shari and I thought you were leaving at 8:30 yesterday. |
13:43 |
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jcamins |
Whoops. |
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sekjal |
thankfully, no. then I'd be REALLY behind |
13:44 |
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* jcamins |
pushes his master plan to nominate sekjal, bg, and druthb for a whole bunch of jobs back by one day. ;) |
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* oleonard |
hasn't traveled internationally for about 10 years, but still has anxiety dreams about not being ready for his flight |
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jcamins |
@later tell druthb The front page of your blog didn't update. Don't forget to rsync the whole website, and not just the one new post. |
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huginn |
jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
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New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7105] Bad sql request in GetSubscriptions <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7105> |
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libsysguy |
hey does anybody know when druthb will be back around? |
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magnus_afk |
she's in/on her way to india - hard to tell... |
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libsysguy |
ohhh |
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libsysguy |
we can all play where in the world is druthb |
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magnus_afk |
heh |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: Newark area. :P |
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wins. |
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libsysguy |
dang it jcamins |
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magnus_afk |
that was quick |
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libsysguy |
jcamins has druthb bugged |
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magnus_afk |
hehe |
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Danielle_ |
Or in the circle of trust. >.> |
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Danielle_ |
Forensic Accountant time? ;) |
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jcamins |
Danielle_: more like "explain to dummy over there what he's doing wrong." ;) |
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wizzyrea |
i had lots of dreams last year about missing my plane to NZ |
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rhcl_away |
? |
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oleonard |
wizzyrea's on a 1-hour delay rhcl_away. |
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wizzyrea |
that |
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rhcl_away |
Well, that's why she missed her plane then. |
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wizzyrea |
meh |
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libsysguy |
report question |
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libsysguy |
if i wanted to doa dropdown in a report to see all the available funds |
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libsysguy |
how would i format the <<>> bit |
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wizzyrea |
the drop downs are dependent on authorized values |
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wizzyrea |
and only some of them work, iirc |
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libsysguy |
is there a way to see the authorized values? |
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wizzyrea |
administration -> Authorized Values |
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wizzyrea |
but I think only itype, ccode work |
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wizzyrea |
it's in the manual |
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wizzyrea |
which ones |
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wizzyrea |
possibly in the online help too |
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wizzyrea |
afk |
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libsysguy |
so if i created a new one…it wouldn't work? |
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libsysguy |
like a new category |
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rhcl |
A mildly interesting project to follow: http://orsoc.se/openrisc1200-platform-2/ |
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rhcl |
They chat on freenode at #opencores |
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nengard |
libsysguy, drthb is on her way to my house actually |
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libsysguy |
oh really? |
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nengard |
she'll be around in a few hours for a bit before going to the airport or Inda |
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nengard |
India |
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nengard |
bg is here -druthb, sekjal and JesseM are on their way :) |
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nengard |
gonna have a mini bywater gathering at my house |
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libsysguy |
ok cool…well if she feels up to it I have a data question for her…otherwise it can wait |
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libsysguy |
ohh fun…is there dip and chips? |
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jcamins |
Wow, she can go to India without going to the airport? Lucky! |
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libsysguy |
nengard did you see my question about the reports? |
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nengard |
no i did not |
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libsysguy |
nengard: if i wanted to doa dropdown in a report to see all the available funds |
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libsysguy |
how would i format the <<>> bit |
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nengard |
not possible ? |
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nengard |
funds is not a runtime parameter |
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libsysguy |
oh |
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nengard |
i think i have a bug for it |
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libsysguy |
gotcha |
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nengard |
bug 6961 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6961 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , runtime parameter for fund codes |
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cait |
hi koha |
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libsysguy |
thanks nengard++ |
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rhcl |
hi cait |
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nengard |
no prob |
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nengard |
hi cait |
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cait |
hi rhcl, libsysguy and nengard :) |
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libsysguy |
hi cait :) |
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magnus_afk |
kia ora cait |
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magnus_afk |
@seen rangi |
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huginn |
magnus_afk: rangi was last seen in #koha 12 hours, 17 minutes, and 38 seconds ago: <rangi> not yet, i emailed dont have a reply yet, will chase up in the morning with a phone call |
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cait |
hi magnus_afk :) |
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bye |
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nengard |
jcamins - two bugs reported related to what I saw in analytics tests - it might be just me, but hopefully someone can figure them out |
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nengard |
bug 7107 and bug 7106 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7107 major, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , 'used in' column on analytics not populating |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7106 major, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW , analytics links broken |
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jcamins |
I will take a look if I can. |
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nengard |
releast notes question for anyone who can answer - it says "New permission for overdues report" - but where is it? |
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oleonard |
nengard: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5876 |
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huginn |
Bug 5876: enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, New permission for overdues report |
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oleonard |
Not a fix for Bug 6898 as you probably hoped |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6898 major, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , circulation librarians can't run overdues without reports permissions |
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nengard |
so it's not a new permission |
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nengard |
an existing permission |
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oleonard |
A misleading bug title becomes a misleading release notes item. |
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nengard |
:) |
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* Oak |
waves |
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trea |
o/ |
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oleonard |
Hi cait |
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cait |
hi oleonard |
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cait |
:) |
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NCARLibrary |
Hey there people! |
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NCARLibrary |
Might anyone be interested in hearing my Stats question? |
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oleonard |
We won't know until you ask |
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Oak |
true story |
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NCARLibrary |
Circ Statistics... |
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NCARLibrary |
I get no data in the body of the results...only totals. |
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NCARLibrary |
Could it be a bug? Or just user error? |
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NCARLibrary |
Sorry for the delayed question...people just walk right up to you and start talking when you work at a library. |
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cait |
NCARLibrary: using the statistic wizard? |
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NCARLibrary |
yes, the wizard |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
I think you have to select one field for column and one for row |
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NCARLibrary |
i get all my totals, along bottom and down the right side |
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cait |
what are you trying to search for? |
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NCARLibrary |
i selected patron category for row |
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NCARLibrary |
and shelving loc as column |
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cait |
hm |
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NCARLibrary |
i'm just trying to get circ stats for various patron categories at various shelving locations |
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NCARLibrary |
might be some issue with my local instance that Galen needs to tweak, I suppose. |
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cait |
perhaps you can find a good report to do that in the reports library? |
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cait |
my database here is almost empty, so I get no results at all :( |
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NCARLibrary |
yeah, i could work around with a report |
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NCARLibrary |
time for lunch. i'll shoot Galen an email. |
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NCARLibrary |
thanks |
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* oleonard |
wonders what version NCARLibrary is on |
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* oleonard |
remembers the problems we had with reports output right after the T:T switch |
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Oak |
@later tell Brooke hi, watch "Frequently Asked Questions About Time Travel" www.imdb.com/title/tt0910554/ very good |
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huginn |
Oak: The operation succeeded. |
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rangi |
morning |
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bg |
morning dude |
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ebegin |
hello all! Long time no talk, see, etc ;) |
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bg |
heya ebegin |
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rangi |
heya ebegin |
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rangi |
bg: whens the flight? |
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rangi |
@wunder wellington nz |
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huginn |
rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0�C (7:00 AM NZDT on October 28, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady). |
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ebegin |
@wunder montreal, canada |
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huginn |
ebegin: The current temperature in Montreal / Dorval International, Que, Quebec is 4.0�C (2:00 PM EDT on October 27, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: -5.0�C. Pressure: 29.84 in 1010 hPa (Falling). |
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rangi |
ebegin: I have some beer from quebec in my fridge |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7108] opaclanguagesdisplay: Lists of "Similar" languages break display across multiple lines <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7108> |
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rangi |
got given it as a gift at the conference last week |
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oleonard |
Thank goodness beer can go through customs |
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rangi |
yep I took some with me, brought some back |
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rangi |
no drama either way |
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rangi |
its just food/plants we dont let in |
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jcamins |
Drinks made of plants are good? |
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jcamins |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
oh, is this real |
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cait |
they let my chocolate in too :) |
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wizzyrea |
do I really have internet? |
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wizzyrea |
I do! |
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cait |
only had to show it and they even talked german with me :) |
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cait |
hi wizzyrea :) |
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wizzyrea |
lordie! |
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rangi |
jcamins: boiled plants are ok |
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wizzyrea |
I guess the backbone for our local internet provider went completely down |
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rangi |
:) |
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rangi |
ouch |
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wizzyrea |
guess they'll be looking at their redundancy strategies :P |
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rangi |
I love how corporates make the internet less robust |
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rangi |
the market .... its full of shit |
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wizzyrea |
even though they supposedly have 3 backbone providers? |
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* wizzyrea |
grumbles |
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wizzyrea |
but I'm happy it's back up |
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rangi |
:) |
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rangi |
http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/ranginui/6285847392/ |
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wizzyrea |
lol what is he doing? |
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rangi |
lil man has reflux still, so he has a computer attached to him |
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wizzyrea |
OH |
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wizzyrea |
poor lil guy |
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rangi |
measuring ph levels |
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rangi |
he doesn't mind |
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rangi |
its his packpack |
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wizzyrea |
awwww |
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rangi |
:) |
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rangi |
comes out in 5 hours |
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wizzyrea |
(well, reflux sucks so, still poor guy about that bit) |
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rangi |
then they should know whats going on |
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rangi |
yeah |
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rangi |
tonsils and adanoids coming out |
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rangi |
on the 16th |
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wizzyrea |
oh zounds! |
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trea |
ya :-/ |
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rangi |
lucky he's a tough lil bugger |
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wizzyrea |
*nod* |
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wizzyrea |
he looks cheery enough in that pic :) |
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rangi |
yep |
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rangi |
nothing seems to worry him much |
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rangi |
but I think he will be a lot happier with less interrupted sleep |
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rangi |
the only problem now is he thinks he is dora |
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rangi |
and keeps trying to get stuff out of his backpack |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
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bg |
rangi: flight is in 5 hours |
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bg |
we're still holding up at nengard house |
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rangi |
so laurel will be happy when it comes out |
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rangi |
its a full on job watching his hands |
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rangi |
ahh cool |
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rangi |
lol |
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rangi |
lead news item today |
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rangi |
"pupils punished for going to parade" |
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rangi |
oh the problems we have |
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oleonard |
I've discovered a problem in the en-GB and en-NZ translations |
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rangi |
oh? |
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oleonard |
Looks like escaping backslashes in JavaScript are getting escaped again |
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oleonard |
_('Are you sure you want to renew this member\\'s registration?') |
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rangi |
ah thats possible |
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oleonard |
should be |
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oleonard |
_('Are you sure you want to renew this member\'s registration?') |
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rangi |
right and all the other languages dont have retarded 's |
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rangi |
so doesn't get them |
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rangi |
sounds like. po file is wrong |
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rangi |
ill take a look after the next 3 conferences :) |
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oleonard |
File a bug? |
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maximep |
just saw the same in fr-FR. Had \\t instead of \t |
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cait |
pootle doesn't like those |
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cait |
it will always make them wrong |
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cait |
best is to edit the file directly |
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cait |
that's the reason I removed all \n from the translations |
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cait |
or better, make it ".... ' " |
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ebegin |
Speaking of pootle, is there a way to replace a complete file with the one I'm uploading ? |
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oleonard |
Bug 7109, for what it's worth. Sounds like it's really a template-processing bug that needs a more comprehensive fix. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7109 major, P5, ---, frederic, NEW , Error in en-GB and en-NZ templates causes JavaScript errors |
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maximep |
the en template should really just put the string in " " instead of escaping |
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maximep |
spent the last 3 hours fixing translation bugs :/ |
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oleonard |
maximep: That might work for \t, but not for apostrophes in english sentences |
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maximep |
huh, why wouldn't it |
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maximep |
french has way more ' than english, so always fixing those |
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oleonard |
Maybe I misunderstand you, but wouldn't that break up the string and make translation more difficult? |
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maximep |
instead of _('Are you sure you want to renew this patron\'s registration?') |
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maximep |
_("Are you sure you want to renew this patron's registration?") |
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cait |
ebegin: you can overwrite but need a permission for that - ask fredericd |
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oleonard |
maximep: I see. Does that work with the translation tool? |
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ebegin |
cait, thanks. it seems that he is away atm |
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rangi |
oleonard: i think it does |
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cait |
you can add as suggestion, merge and overwrite I think - 3 options |
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rangi |
oleonard: but id have to try to be sure |
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maximep |
oleonard: yes |
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cait |
oleonard: it does, the other problem is, that normally I would use "" for quiting things in German |
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cait |
and I can't use those |
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cait |
both ways it's annoying sometimes |
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cait |
but consistency would be nice |
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cait |
hm quoting I mean |
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maximep |
pretty sure " is used in most places |
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oleonard |
So switching from one quote to another doesn't fix the problem. Can we fix the double-\ problem? |
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maximep |
yeah that was jsut a workaround for a real bug |
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rangi |
oleonard: we have to find where the \\ are being added, is pootle doing it, or is the translation tools doing it |
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* oleonard |
is finding that the language-chooser in the staff client doesn't reflect the current language choice |
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oleonard |
Bugs are scaring out bugs |
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oleonard |
Why do we have biblio.copyrightdate and biblioitems.publicationyear? |
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rangi |
cos in the olden days |
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rangi |
you had one biblio many biblioitems |
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rangi |
copyright date didnt change, the publication one did |
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cait |
oh |
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wizzyrea |
much more like frbr |
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oleonard |
So copyright date was like "original copyright date" ? |
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rangi |
yeah MARC broke all that stuff |
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rangi |
stupid marc |
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* oleonard |
is sure he's been told this before |
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rangi |
yup |
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rangi |
there really is no reason for the biblio/biblioitems split anymore,it should go away |
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rangi |
since marc will never die and our grandchildren will still be dealing with this crap |
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* oleonard |
just discovered list sorting by year doesn't work because it tries to sort by biblioitems.publicationyear which is empty because default Koha to MARC mapping doesn't map it to anything |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 7.0�C (10:00 PM CEST on October 27, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1019 hPa (Rising). |
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cait |
oleonard: I think it does for unimarc |
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cait |
oleonard: marc21 links to copyrightdate |
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cait |
and no... that's no fun |
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oleonard |
I know...and why the difference? Some arbitrary choice in the past? |
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* wizzyrea |
bets on arbitrary |
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nengard |
hey all - i'm looking for the bug report about the staff client results saying things are available even when they're not |
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cait |
oleonard: I have no idea |
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wizzyrea |
bug 2708 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2708 major, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Checked out items saying available |
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wizzyrea |
but many times that has to do with index lag |
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nengard |
thanks wizzyrea |
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wizzyrea |
ok smarties |
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wizzyrea |
nm lol |
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rangi |
heh |
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cait |
? |
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cait |
smarties? |
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ibeardslee |
mmmm smarties |
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ibeardslee |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smarties ? |
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libsysguy |
hey #Koha |
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libsysguy |
what table do list get stored in? |
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rangi |
http://schema.koha-community.o[…]rtualshelves.html |
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rangi |
and |
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rangi |
http://schema.koha-community.o[…]helfcontents.html |
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libsysguy |
sweet thanks rangi…i swear one day ill get the tables down pat |
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wizzyrea |
i love you, schema.koha-community.org |
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wizzyrea |
sincerely |
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wizzyrea |
is there a wiki on making and using sysprefs? |
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wizzyrea |
i has a curious |
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libsysguy |
apparently that procedure changed since i last did it |
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libsysguy |
because my patch got rejected :'( |
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wizzyrea |
urf |
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wizzyrea |
i'm looking at the renewal sysprefs |
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wizzyrea |
the renewal_blocked_fines really ought to be dependent on OpacRenewalAllowed |
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libsysguy |
hmm |
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wizzyrea |
as in, anything relating to renewals in the opac |
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libsysguy |
can you set dependent behaviors in sysprefs? |
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libsysguy |
*n00b question* |
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wizzyrea |
if OpacRenewalAllowed is off, nothing should ever show ever about renewals |
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wizzyrea |
right now it's a kludgy workaround of setting the threshold super high and praying. |
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wizzyrea |
to not see a message about renewals |
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wizzyrea |
my assumption was that if it can be codified, it could be done. maybe that's wrong. |
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libsysguy |
hmm sorry wizzyrea but im not the expert in that area :-\ |
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wizzyrea |
oh it's all good |
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wizzyrea |
i'm pondering just poking at it until I figure it out :P |
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wizzyrea |
hoo boy look at the time >.> |
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wizzyrea |
what should I have for dinner? |
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libsysguy |
mashed potatoes |
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eythian |
wizzyrea: there is a wiki page about writing sysprefs |
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wizzyrea |
shepherd's pie, good idea |
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eythian |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ystem_Preferences |
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wizzyrea |
cool thanks eythian |
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eythian |
needs some updating, really. For 3.6 you don't have to worry about translations, just stick it in the english one and some magic happens somewhere. |
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wizzyrea |
yea that's what I thought |
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wizzyrea |
*saved in my tabs for tomorrow* |
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