IRC log for #koha, 2011-10-21

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00:51 druthb o/
00:51 wizzyrea whaddup
00:51 druthb :-O
00:51 druthb how's wizzyrea?
00:52 wizzyrea oy, been sick for a couple of days but finally feeling better
00:52 wizzyrea how about you?
00:52 wahanui i guess you is ketchup Oak's friend, you!
00:52 druthb tha's good.   n spud?
00:52 druthb I'm doing better...had a Big Win on something that'd had me stuck all week, which always helps.
00:52 jcamins_away \o
00:52 wizzyrea noice
00:52 druthb hi, jcamins_away! :)
00:53 druthb Dynix Classic systems can't keep secrets from me any more.  :D
00:53 wizzyrea woohoo!
00:53 druthb They do things to the MARC that would make jcamins shudder, but I figured out how to splice things back together.
00:55 Danielle Go druthb!
00:55 jcamins_away is now known as jcamins
00:55 druthb The thing that makes it really ugly is that they use ASCII 254 for a field delimiter...looks really heinous, but isn't.
00:55 jcamins Woohoo!
00:55 Danielle BTW, since I mentioned it earlier, the offer came through at the "good enough" level. :)
00:55 wizzyrea nice!
00:56 jcamins Myshkin has learned how to jump up and down.
00:57 druthb excellent, Danielle!  I'm happy to hear that.
00:57 wizzyrea lol
00:57 Danielle Thank you! I'll be accepting it tommorrow.
00:57 wizzyrea at your cat
00:57 jcamins (like, trampoline-style up-and-down)
00:57 jcamins Congratulations, Danielle!
00:57 * Danielle has a friend whose kitten does that on her chest.
00:57 Danielle Thanks, jcamins
00:57 wizzyrea awesome
01:00 eythian druthb: liberty also uses 254, it's quite handy
01:01 eythian but it uses it as a quote character, and 0x14 as a field separator.
01:01 druthb Once you know what the fenceposts look like, you can pay attention to the fence.
01:01 eythian both of which are great because it can't export real CSVs and so things get really mixed up if it uses " and ,
01:02 druthb In the case of CHR(254), it's useful to cross your eyes.
01:04 eythian all my scripts let me do things like "--fieldsep '0x14' --quotechar '0xFE'" to deal with this kind of thing.
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02:24 eythian hi
02:24 wahanui hey, eythian
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04:05 Oak kia ora #koha
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05:01 cait good morning #koha
05:04 Oak hello  Katrin Fischer
05:04 cait hello Oak - so formal today?
05:04 Oak :)
05:22 Oak just thought why not try something different...
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05:42 cait :)
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06:14 magnuse kia ora #koha
06:15 alex_a bonjour
06:15 wahanui privet, alex_a
06:15 alex_a hi magnuse, cait
06:16 magnuse bonjour alex_a and cait
06:16 cait morning :)
06:18 cait 2403 words need attention   - hmpf
06:18 magnuse lucky you
06:19 cait lucky me wished it was 0
06:21 magnuse didn't we all... ;-)
06:29 cait 2027 - getting there
06:32 magnuse yay! you can ndo it"
06:33 magnuse @arewethereyet
06:33 huginn magnuse: Not yet - wait 1 day
06:33 magnuse woohoo!
06:35 cait almost :)
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06:50 magnuse bonjour sophie_m
06:51 sophie_m bonjour magnuse :-)
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06:56 reiveune1 hello
06:56 wahanui que tal, reiveune1
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07:10 asaurat hi!
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07:25 kf hi #koha
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07:26 kf morning paul_p :)
07:27 paul_p hello kf
07:36 kf @arewethereyet
07:36 huginn kf: Not yet - wait 1 day
07:39 kf @wunder Konstanz
07:39 huginn kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 2.5�C (9:35 AM CEST on October 21, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 30.38 in 1028.7 hPa (Rising).
07:39 kf first ice on the car windows and grass today
07:41 magnuse ouch
07:41 magnuse @wunder boo
07:41 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0�C (9:20 AM CEST on October 21, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Windchill: -1.0�C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Rising).
07:41 kf 1567 words need attention
07:41 magnuse we had some frost two weeks ago
07:41 magnuse yay!
07:42 kf getting there!
07:42 magnuse woohoo
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07:53 kf 1125 words need attention
07:53 kf hehe
07:54 Oak kf++
07:55 magnuse kf++
07:56 * kf hides
07:56 magnuse don't hide, translate! ;-)
07:57 kf See the full documentation for Vendor Contracts in the
07:57 kf those are exhausting!"
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08:00 francharb hello everyone
08:01 kf hi francharb :)
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08:37 kf DONE!
08:43 magnuse woohoo!!!!!!
08:47 magnuse looks like danish, french, german, italianand spanish are the most diligent translators
09:24 kf :)
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09:38 vfernandes hi koha commnunity
09:39 vfernandes can anyone help me with one thing, there is any bug realted to advanced search by itemtype?
09:40 kf there is a new feature
09:41 kf to make it more flexible
09:41 kf but I am not aware that it's broken
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09:42 vfernandes for example i have 3 itemtype: AM AM_REF and AM_RES... if i search for some subject and for AM and AM_RES, some results with AM_RES appeared
09:42 vfernandes *some results with AM_REF appeared
09:43 vfernandes that means that the itemtype isn't searching by the exact word
09:43 kf when you searched for am and am_res - am_res appeared sounds right
09:44 kf ah
09:44 kf am_ref
09:44 kf hm that would not be cool I think
09:45 vfernandes maybe i need to use wrdl in that searches
09:45 magnuse vfernandes: did you get results that had *only* am_ref?
09:45 vfernandes let me check
09:45 magnuse or did you get results that had am_ref *and* one of those you searched for
09:46 vfernandes if i search for AM_RES i only get results with itemtype AM_RES
09:47 vfernandes if i search for AM i will obtain results with AM, AM_RES and AM_REF
09:47 magnuse sounds like automatic truncation?
09:48 vfernandes what you mean?
09:49 magnuse if autmatic truncation is on and you search for hors you get horse and horses
09:50 vfernandes automatic truncation is on
09:50 magnuse check out these system preferences, if you don't know them already: QueryAutoTruncate, QueryFuzzy, QueryStemming
09:51 magnuse try turning it off and see what happens
09:51 vfernandes ok let me see
09:53 vfernandes it's the same :/
09:53 magnuse hmf
09:55 vfernandes maybe wrdl will do the trick
09:55 magnuse worth a try, i'm out of ideas i'm afraid
09:56 vfernandes ok thanks magnuse and kf
09:56 hdl hi all
09:58 kf vfernandes: perhaps worth a bug report
09:58 vfernandes maybe. the problem it's that AM match with AM_RES and AM_REF...
09:59 kf hm
09:59 kf another idea
09:59 kf perhaps it's the underscore
09:59 kf it's treated as space
09:59 magnuse ooh, good idea
09:59 vfernandes humm
10:00 vfernandes let me check the configs of zebra
10:01 vfernandes the underscore is a breakin character and is substituted for space
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10:02 kf so that makes sense
10:02 kf and gives me an diea about how to solve a problem I had yesterday :)
10:02 kf yay
10:02 vfernandes i've removed the underscore from the lang_def of zerba and now i'm rebuild the indexes
10:02 vfernandes let's see if works
10:03 magnuse fingers crossed!
10:03 vfernandes yas :)
10:03 vfernandes it's rebuilding 80000 records :/
10:04 magnuse get some coffee!
10:09 vfernandes good idea :)
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10:12 Schwitzd Hi to everybody
10:16 Schwitzd Somebody know in with perl file are written the query that the mysql do to retourn a book
10:16 Schwitzd I want to understand what koha do in the database when a book is retourned
10:20 kf I don't know the perl file
10:20 kf but I would say it adds an entry to statistics and perhaps action_logs and it moves the entry from isseus to old_issues
10:26 kf Schwitzd:
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10:31 Schwitzd also something in the reserves and old_reserves
10:34 kf for holds
10:35 kf if there is a hold on it the status will change to waiting if you confirm the hold, or transport status
10:35 kf old_reserves should only have cancelled and returned holds
10:43 vfernandes kf and magnuse, removing the undescore from the lang_def didn't work
10:44 kf ah bummer
10:44 kf did you remove it from all lang_defs?
10:45 kf and perhaps it's also somewhere else in the config? not sure
10:45 vfernandes i've removed from en and fr lang_defs
10:45 kf you could try with other itemtypes to see if it is the underscore - create am amref and check if it's still happening?
10:46 vfernandes i'll try
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11:09 vfernandes there is any form to obtain the exact match of one search
11:09 vfernandes phr is for phrase, wrdl is for wordlist
11:23 jcamins_away vfernandes: phr,complete-subfield:whatever (I think)
11:24 kf hi jcamins_away :)
11:25 jcamins_away Hello.
11:27 vfernandes what means ext?
11:28 vfernandes except?
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11:29 jcamins_away vfernandes: I don't recall.
11:31 kf extinct?
11:31 kf only guessing
11:32 kf hehe looking up the word... probably not :)
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11:33 vfernandes the problem with itemtypes is driving me crazy :)
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12:15 Danielle \o
12:19 magnuse o/
12:24 oleonard My 8-year-old's teacher sends out email newsletters to parents with no subject, no body, only an attachment entitled "USE THIS NEWSLETTER.doc."
12:25 oleonard I guess my daughter won't be learning how to email from her teacher.
12:26 oleonard But hey, kids don't email anymore do they? Or so I'm told.
12:27 magnuse tee hee
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12:38 magnuse he was earlier, but not now
12:39 magnuse oops
12:39 kf hehe
12:39 asaurat email = old school
12:40 oleonard I wonder if these kids who think email is old school will start using it once they have jobs.
12:41 asaurat they will probably use some intranet facebook clones =)
12:41 oleonard Google+ coming soon to Google Apps users :)
12:41 magnuse or sms
12:42 kf scary
12:43 magnuse or mms, for attachments
12:43 asaurat actually we're talking about 15 years from now... it will be either something very hi-tech we can't even think about yet, or some kind of new poney express after the 2nd Great Depression :D
12:44 magnuse parchment scrolls ;-)
12:46 kf wax tables?
12:47 magnuse ooh, that sounds great for re-use
12:48 asaurat but not very compatible with the Global Warming App
12:48 magnuse hehe, better keep 'em in the fridge!
12:49 oleonard I think you mean a cool wet sack magnuse, it's the fridge of the future.
12:49 asaurat ie : in a cave :D
12:50 magnuse ah, sorry
12:52 kf hehe
12:52 kf now that's friday talk!
12:52 * kf gets out the bowl of cookies
12:53 kf magnuse: perhaps clay?
12:53 asaurat cookies!!
12:53 wahanui Cookies are delicious delicacies
12:53 magnuse yeah, this sort of feels like friday...
12:56 nengard magnuse it IS friday! :)
12:56 magnuse ah, that explains a lot!
12:56 nengard :)
12:57 oleonard It's even Friday for rangi :P
12:57 magnuse hehe
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13:00 magnuse @wunder boo
13:01 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0�C (2:50 PM CEST on October 21, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Rising).
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13:02 kf item data?
13:02 kf holdings?
13:02 kf items table?
13:02 magnuse happy birthday, hdl!!!
13:03 kf yes, alles Gute zum Geburtstag, hdl!
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13:23 magnuse kia ora sekjal
13:24 sekjal kia ora, magnuse
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13:35 libsysguy morning #koha
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13:36 libsysguy sekjal I was thinking about starting a branch on my github for notifications…what are you thoughts on that?
13:36 Oak ...
13:37 sekjal libsysguy:  that would be a good way to make your work public
13:37 sekjal but I think more spec work needs to be done
13:38 oleonard Uh oh... why is this account suspended for X days when I don't have any suspension in days amount specified?
13:38 libsysguy I think so too.  I was hoping that after the 3.6 release we could pick it back up…and with a public repo everybody could work on it…unless koha already has something more official already in place
13:38 oleonard "Patron has had overdue items and is blocked for 43 day(s)"
13:39 oleonard Can you cancel a patron's suspension?
13:39 oleonard paul_p?
13:39 libsysguy are they debarred or suspended?
13:39 paul_p hello oleonard
13:40 * paul_p reading logs...
13:40 paul_p oleonard: yes, you can. Just undebar it, and that should be enough
13:40 paul_p (why it has been suspended is another question...)
13:41 paul_p if there is a debarment date => he's debarred. If no date => not debarred
13:41 oleonard paul_p: The account is not debarred
13:41 oleonard ...but I get the above message when I try to check out
13:41 libsysguy oh so it is the algorithm version of suspension not the database version
13:41 paul_p ??? why/how can you say that ? (he's not debarred)
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13:42 sekjal oleonard:  sounds he's got overdues (or had them), and somehow a rule in your DB is triggering some value of suspension in days
13:43 oleonard I did have fines, and just wrote them off
13:49 libsysguy when you checkin via dropbox mode for an item that would be overdue should you still get a warning message that the item is overdue
13:49 libsysguy I get one and I don't think it should be there
13:55 oleonard C4::Members::IsMemberBlocked is returning the "43" for my patron's borrowernumber
13:55 libsysguy actually I feel like this is an inherent issue after tracing the code…if anybody could verify I'd be forever in their debt
13:56 jcamins oleonard: it's an off-by-one error.
13:57 oleonard ?
13:57 jcamins oleonard: the answer is 42, naturally. ;)
13:58 oleonard :P
13:58 libsysguy clever jcamins
13:58 libsysguy oleonard:  what function is calling IsMemberBlocked?
13:58 oleonard Circulation::CanBookBeIssued
13:59 sekjal IsMemberBlocked checks for finedays IS NOT NULL
13:59 oleonard ...and it's 0.
13:59 sekjal so, if you have finedays = 0 in any of your rules, it'll trigger
14:00 libsysguy wow thats brilliant
14:01 sekjal so, in that case, it'll just take the date difference between the returndate, and the current date
14:01 sekjal which means it would grow to 44 tomorrow
14:01 sekjal and so on
14:01 sekjal that's.... bad
14:01 libsysguy ^^
14:01 oleonard And you can't set finedays to null when editing an issuing rule
14:01 libsysguy so we could change that check or null or 0
14:02 libsysguy and it would fix your issue right
14:02 sekjal yes, that's the fix
14:02 sekjal one more line to the SQL
14:02 sekjal "AND finedays != 0"
14:02 libsysguy shouldn't that make it into 3.6?
14:02 sekjal that's up to rangi
14:02 libsysguy that seems pretty important
14:03 libsysguy but yeah you're right
14:03 sekjal but it seems like a critical to me
14:03 sekjal and it's a one-line fix
14:03 sekjal who wants to write up the bug report?
14:03 libsysguy exactly…and easily verified
14:03 oleonard sekjal: Can we not just change WHERE finedays IS NOT NULL to WHERE finedays !=0 ?
14:03 sekjal oleonard:  then NULLs would catch
14:03 oleonard Right, duh.
14:03 libsysguy !=0 wouldn't check for nuls
14:03 libsysguy ^^
14:04 sekjal and since it's used in multiplication, I don't know if it would throw an even bigger error
14:04 sekjal is multiplying by NULL in MySQL the same as by 0?
14:04 libsysguy i think *NULL = NULL
14:05 libsysguy if i remember from my database class a year ago…but that was oracle not mysql
14:05 jcamins 50 * NULL = NULL
14:06 sekjal okay, so next question:  ADDDATE(returndate, NULL) gives what?
14:06 jcamins What's the value of returndate?
14:06 libsysguy why on earth would you do that?
14:06 sekjal libsysguy:  that's the query for IsMemberBlocked
14:06 sekjal DATEDIFF(ADDDATE(returndate, finedays * DATEDIFF(returndate,date_due)),NOW()) AS blockedcount
14:07 oleonard select ADDDATE('2011-02-11',NULL); returns NULL
14:07 libsysguy o_0...
14:08 sekjal okay, and datediff(null, now()) is null, too
14:09 oleonard I'll submit a bug if no one has already
14:09 sekjal thanks, oleonard
14:09 oleonard I can submit the patch too if there's not more to work out
14:09 sekjal I think we change the condition to "WHERE finedays > 0", and that should exclude both 0 and NULL
14:10 sekjal even though we seem to have verified that NULL is a safe value
14:10 jcamins sekjal: and negative numbers don't have a magic meaning?
14:10 sekjal jcamins:  no special meaning
14:11 sekjal but I am curious what that'd do....
14:12 sekjal it'd subtract from the return date instead of add
14:12 hdl thanks magnuse and kf
14:12 magnuse yay!
14:17 oleonard Bug 7075
14:17 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7075 critical, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Fine in days values are returned for patrons with past overdues when fine in days is set to 0
14:17 libsysguy no
14:17 libsysguy oops wrong window :-\
14:18 sekjal lol
14:18 libsysguy I hate it when that happens
14:18 libsysguy at least I didn't say something embarrassing
14:18 sekjal it made some kind of sense, in context...
14:19 * sekjal may be a little loopy from the last few weeks
14:20 oleonard So what's your opinion sekjal, submit that one-line change?
14:21 sekjal yes, change the test from "is not null" to "> 0", and we should be all set
14:21 wahanui sekjal: that doesn't look right
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14:21 * sekjal wonders if he has acquired the power to boot bots that disagree with him
14:21 jcamins sekjal: it's "change"
14:21 jcamins change something
14:21 wahanui jcamins: that doesn't look right
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14:22 sekjal awesome!
14:22 wizzyrea always the skeptic
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14:36 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7075] Fine in days values are returned for patrons with past overdues when fine in days is set to 0 <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7075>
14:37 slef change wahanui for a bot that doesn't crash?
14:37 wahanui slef: that doesn't look right
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14:37 * oleonard gives wahanui an ice pack for his head
14:39 oleonard Hmmm.... So now I can edit other patrons' public lists
14:39 oleonard the staff client
14:39 wizzyrea !
14:40 wizzyrea wait, a patron can log into the staff client without staff permissions?
14:40 oleonard That's not what I'm saying
14:40 wizzyrea oh, thank heavens.
14:42 libsysguy would anyone be opposed to me adding a check for dropbox mode in AddReturn to see if an issue is overdue
14:43 libsysguy right now there is one…kind of…but the check doesn't actually change the warning message
14:43 oleonard Looks like it might be a superlibrarian thing wizzyrea
14:43 wizzyrea ah, well that makes a certain amount of sense
14:43 oleonard Yeah, something I've wanted (at least to the extent of making public lists private), but I don't think getting it via an unknown bug is the right way!
14:44 slef libsysguy: do what to the warning message?
14:44 libsysguy well if i check an item in that is overdue…but select dropbox mode…making it no longer overdue….i still get a warning about it being overdue
14:45 wizzyrea that's a bug, imo
14:45 wizzyrea and should be fixed :P
14:45 libsysguy because Circulation::GetItemIssue never checks to see if its in dropbox mode
14:45 libsysguy i only stumbled across it because im calculating fines on checkin
14:45 wizzyrea sounds like it's supposed to do it, it doesn't, you have a fix, go for it
14:46 libsysguy the only problem is…if i fix it…it won't be compatible with master…no hourly yet and this all relies on datetime
14:47 libsysguy :-\
14:47 wizzyrea ah
14:47 libsysguy I suppose i can fix it in my production and then push it when master gets hourly
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14:56 sekjal hey, everyone, just a heads up:  I broke returns on current master
14:56 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7060] All instances of GetMemberDetails are unnecessary in C4::Circulation <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7060>
14:57 sekjal ^^
14:57 sekjal fix submitted, but I just wanted to own up and apologize now
14:57 wizzyrea oh that's a bit terrifying
14:57 libsysguy its ok sekjal I haven't updated so I can easily forgive you
14:58 sekjal yeah, anyone who is running the code base from yesterday (or maybe even the day before) cannot return materials if they're checked out to a person with any kind of permissions
14:59 libsysguy can you let me know when that patch gets merged
14:59 sekjal libsysguy:  sure thing
14:59 libsysguy gracias sir
14:59 sekjal this is what I get for coding in a bar late at night
14:59 oleonard "Can't use string ("1") as a HASH ref while "strict refs" in use at /home/oleonard/kohaclone/circ/ line 479" ?
14:59 * sekjal shakes head in personal disappointment
15:00 sekjal oleonard:  yup, that's the error
15:00 libsysguy you were coding in a BAR?!?
15:00 libsysguy like a boss
15:00 oleonard codabar
15:01 sekjal I've been on a mission to make Koha more efficient
15:01 sekjal got over-confident
15:01 kf ohoh
15:01 wizzyrea bugs happen
15:01 kf yep
15:02 kf don't let it break your misson
15:02 wizzyrea ^^
15:03 rangi yep its a good mission
15:03 rangi fredericd++ # po files ready to pull
15:04 rangi ill pull that fix now, its interetsting the unit tests didnt catch it
15:04 rangi theres something to fix
15:06 sekjal rangi:  the root of the issue is that $borrower->{flags} means two different things, depending on whether its a GetMember $borrower or a GetMemberDetails $borrower
15:06 sekjal for GetMember, it's the value of borrowers.flags, which contains permissions
15:07 sekjal for GetMemberDetails, its a hashref of messages about things like "gone no address", "overdues", etc
15:07 oleonard The patch works for me, FWIW
15:07 reiveune1 by
15:07 reiveune1 bye
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15:08 rangi yep, patch works for me
15:09 rangi pushing
15:09 sekjal thanks, rangi
15:09 sekjal sorry again, everyone
15:09 oleonard rangi, did you see our discussion of Bug 7075?
15:09 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7075 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Fine in days values are returned for patrons with past overdues when fine in days is set to 0
15:12 rangi ahhh yes
15:12 rangi that needs to be pushed
15:13 rangi sekjal do you have a chance to test that? i have to go eat breakfast but should be able to push that after then
15:13 rangi it seems fine to me
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15:15 * rangi wanders off, back soon
15:15 sekjal rangi:  I've tried to reproduce the error, but haven't succeeded yet
15:15 rangi ahhh
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15:18 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'kc/new/bug_7060' into kcmaster <[…]aaac52cd31a1a200d> / Bug 7060 Followup: AddReturn needs GetMemberDetails <[…]368be33d97f76e509>
15:20 magnuse have fun, #koha
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15:31 sekjal oleonard:  I cannot reproduce the error from 7075
15:31 oleonard Hmmm... Okay. Strange edge case? I'll take a look at my data.
15:37 sekjal yeah, my blockedcount value comes back as -20 (since I set the return date to 20 days ago), which does not trigger the IsMemberBlocked return value
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15:47 rangi back
15:48 * sekjal offers up a speed improve for staff-side lists as an apology for 7060
15:48 sekjal bug 7076
15:48 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7076 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, NEW , shelfpage renders OPAC XSLT bloc for intranet Lists
15:50 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7076] shelfpage renders OPAC XSLT bloc for intranet Lists <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7076>
15:51 rangi sekjal: i probably will leave that for 3.6.1
15:51 sekjal rangi:  totally cool
15:51 sekjal just wanted to do it, really
15:51 rangi im planning to just test and push the languages today, and write release notes
15:51 rangi cool :)
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15:59 oleonard Okay, so 7075 is a very strange edge case indeed. Off the edge and into the next block.
16:00 oleonard I had a returndate in old_issues which was two months in the future (manually set when testing another bug)
16:01 oleonard I'm confused about how that caused the bug, but that's my guess.
16:01 wizzyrea bug 7075
16:01 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7075 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Fine in days values are returned for patrons with past overdues when fine in days is set to 0
16:01 oleonard sekjal: ^^
16:01 sekjal wow
16:01 sekjal that would do it
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16:06 oleonard So the bug is technically valid, but never reproduceable in the wild
16:07 * jcamins takes that bet, and waits patiently.
16:07 libsysguy haha whats the buy in for that?
16:07 rangi :)
16:07 libsysguy 20 koha karma pts
16:08 wizzyrea that's a lot of "--"
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16:13 jenkins_koha ian.walls: Bug 7060 Followup: AddReturn needs GetMemberDetails
16:13 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7060 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, NEW , All instances of GetMemberDetails are unnecessary in C4::Circulation
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16:40 rangi po files updated
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16:48 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Moving po files to 3.6.0 filenames <[…]46da714dca962a8ee> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'tamil/3.6.0-translation' into new_po <[…]330c5761f7893725f> / 3.6.0 Translations update <[…]=019173ad50dc1872
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17:07 fcapo I added a follow-up patch for Bug 6977 . I've found a bug on the patch that was pushed.
17:07 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6977 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, fcapovilla, ASSIGNED , Support for repeated subfields when importing an authority into a biblio record field.
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17:29 jenkins_koha * f.demians: 3.6.0 Translations update
17:29 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Moving po files to 3.6.0 filenames
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17:40 sekjal doing a fresh install of latest master on Debian 6
17:41 sekjal the install_misc/debian.packages left 30 modules uninstalled
17:41 sekjal does that seem high?
17:41 jcamins sekjal: it seems to me that we don't use debian.packages.
17:42 sekjal ah, then the install docs for debian need to be updated
17:43 jcamins They say to use that?
17:43 sekjal yes, step 1.4
17:43 rangi hmm there was a patch for it
17:43 jcamins Hm.
17:43 rangi just recently
17:43 rangi if you can find it and test it
17:43 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'kc/new/bug_5995' into kcmaster <[…]270b31304d8e13ee5> / Bug 5995 Follow up: variable scope in koha/sco/ <[…]d39a5a0f414fdf6a3>
17:44 rangi im happy to push it
17:44 jcamins I sent a patch in a few months ago making the installation instructions accurate.
17:44 rangi if you can find that too :)
17:44 rangi but there was one updated the packages file too
17:44 jcamins rangi: my patch was pushed.
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17:45 rangi cool
17:46 sekjal been a while since I've done a fresh install.  what's the preferred method for getting all the debian packages possible?
17:47 jcamins sekjal: I had made the installation script do everything, but that was a while ago.
17:47 jcamins Long enough that I don't remember the name of the script.
17:47 sekjal bug 7063
17:47 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7063 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Add available perl packages for Debian in install_misc/debian.packages
17:47 rangi that one
17:48 sekjal checking it now... looks to cover most of the missing ones
17:49 jcamins rangi: do you know if eythian has made sure that the packages pull everything in?
17:50 rangi yes they do
17:50 rangi cool
17:50 jcamins I guess the dependencies are generated at build time, so that'll always be up-to-date.
17:50 jcamins packages++
17:50 jcamins eythian++
17:50 jcamins liw++
17:50 rangi yep
17:50 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6977] Support for repeated subfields when importing an authority into a biblio record field. <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6977>
17:53 sekjal patch for 7063 does all except:  CGI::Session::Driver::memcached, Gravatar::URL, and UNIVERSAL::Require
17:53 rangi cool
17:53 sekjal I'm also still getting saying HTML::Template::Pro is a requirement
17:53 rangi ahh yeah thats worth fixing too
17:54 cait what's the plan for tonight?
17:55 sekjal going to install the patch, and continue testing.  will sign off if it makes life better
17:55 rangi thanks
17:55 cait I am going to test translations
17:55 sekjal ah.... patch isn't actually a patch :(
17:58 cait hm?
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18:14 sekjal okay, I can get install_misc/debian.packages to do all but 2 of the dependecies
18:14 sekjal not sure if Gravatar::URL or CGI::Sessions::Driver::memcached are even packaged...
18:16 Oak cait++
18:16 cait Oak?
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18:16 wahanui well, Oak is Arslan. I am a student doing masters in Library Science (2nd semester). I am a web developer and work in Joomla.
18:16 sekjal Gravatar::URL is
18:16 sekjal adding to patch
18:16 sekjal CGI::Session::Driver::memcached is only in sid and wheezy
18:16 Oak no reason
18:17 Oak :)
18:17 Oak i think you have been translating words all day, that's why
18:18 cait only in the morning, but was long enough :)
18:19 Oak hmm
18:28 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #504: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/504/
18:28 jenkins_koha ian.walls: Bug 5995 Follow up: variable scope in koha/sco/
18:28 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5995 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, matthias.meusburger, ASSIGNED , Glitch with checkauth
18:36 sekjal rangi:  bug 7063 has attachment to get us all but one of the debian packages in the install_misc/debian.packages file
18:36 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7063 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Add available perl packages for Debian in install_misc/debian.packages
18:37 sekjal very encouraging
18:38 rangi cool excellent
18:38 rangi thanks
18:38 sekjal working on removing HTML::Template::Pro false positive in PerlDependencies
18:39 rangi thanks
18:40 rangi im about halfway through writing the release notes
18:41 oleonard Be sure to include the part where huginn chugged a while bottle of yellow mustard just because wahanui dared him.
18:41 rangi heh
18:47 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7063] Add available perl packages for Debian in install_misc/debian.packages <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7063> / [Bug 7078] HTML::Template::Pro still listed as Koha dependency <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7078>
18:58 Danielle \o
19:05 cait hi Danielle and yay :)
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19:10 Danielle cait: Thanks. I just gave my verbal acceptance of the offer. :)
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19:11 Danielle I'm not giving notice yet as there are still background check, references, and drug test to be done.
19:12 cait a drug test?
19:12 cait what kind of job is that?
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19:19 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7077] Add system pref to control behavior of submitting empty barcode field on circulation page <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7077>
19:19 cait owen is already working on 3.8 :)
19:20 rangi heh
19:20 oleonard Hey, what else am I gonna do?
19:20 cait I think it's great :)
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19:22 Danielle cait: Unfortunately, it's fairly common here.
19:23 cait hm ok
19:23 * Danielle isn't fond of it but not being independently wealthy or even close to that...
19:24 cait I had to get a police report oncen, when i was working a summer job for the german post
19:24 cait hm, if that is a correct translation
19:25 cait you know, letters, packages, post cards...
19:25 cait not supposed to steal or open those :)
19:25 cait fredericd: around?
19:26 Danielle cait: Post made sense to me.
19:27 cait ok
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19:42 druthb o/
19:42 druthb Good afternoon, #koha!  Please meet my daughter Lindsey! :)
19:43 oleonard Hi lindseydb
19:43 lindseydb Hello. ^^
19:43 jcamins Hi lindseydb!
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19:45 druthb wahanui: bg?
19:45 druthb wahanui: druthb?
19:45 wahanui somebody said druthb was a travelin' woman.
19:45 jcamins First mother-daughter Koha-hacking team?
19:45 druthb I'm hoping so, jcamins!
19:45 druthb wahanui: lindseydb is druthb's finest achievement
19:45 wahanui OK, druthb.
19:45 lindseydb I haven't started yet. >.< We're working on that.
19:46 druthb lindseydb?
19:46 wahanui lindseydb is your finest achievement
19:46 cait hi lindseydb :)
19:47 lindseydb Hello, cait. :D
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19:47 cait what are you 2 up to?
19:47 druthb mischief.
19:47 druthb also showing lindsey how she can keep in touch with me whilst I'm in India.
19:47 cait ah, so only the every day stuff
19:48 druthb yis.
19:48 * oleonard waves Happy Weekend to everyone
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19:48 druthb Also, hoping she'll want to join our merry band, and start hacking on Koha.
19:50 jcamins And indeed, who wouldn't?
19:50 druthb Since she just absconded with my copy of _Learning_Perl_, I have hope.
19:50 cait she is probably going to finish it before I do
19:50 lindseydb I think this book would make a good weapon, as it is quite hefty. O-o
19:51 cait my 'java is also an island' book is a weapon
19:51 druthb lindseydb: cait is proof that you don't have to finish that book to be a super Koha developer.
19:51 cait lol :P
19:51 cait yeah guessing around can work too
19:51 cait only takes longer
19:52 jcamins "Java is also an island" book?
19:52 jcamins Heh.
19:52 lindseydb Well, I don't really speak computer, either. o.o So I think I'll stick to the book for now.
19:53 * druthb is gonna set up a VM, and make a copy, in case it gets broken.  :)
19:53 liw luckily programming is easy, you just need to master the imperative and the conditional
19:53 druthb liw++
19:53 jcamins Or, if you prefer the elegance of the lightsaber, parentheses.
19:55 lindseydb I like both lightsabers and parentheses. Guess I'll be good at this then.
19:55 druthb I'm hoping lindseydb learns to code before wizzyrea's spud does.
19:55 cait hehe
19:55 cait i think she will manage
19:55 druthb Given that she's nearly 19, and he's 3...there is hope.
19:56 Danielle hehe
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19:56 wizzyrea whaddup linds :)
19:56 wizzyrea give the captain a tickle for me
19:56 wizzyrea well, more from spud
19:57 lindseydb Hello, wizzyrea. And I will tonight, once he starts using me as a bed agian.
19:57 lindseydb ^^
19:57 wizzyrea hehe
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20:24 sekjal rangi: did a fresh install of Koha on Debian Squeeze, following the INSTALL.debian instructions.  system is standing up and running demo data just fine
20:24 cait translations seem ok to me
20:25 jenkins_koha Starting build 505 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #491 2 j 17 h ago)
20:26 jcamins Has jenkins switched to French?
20:26 jcamins ("2 j")
20:33 rangi sweet thank you
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21:13 jenkins_koha * ian.walls: Bug 7063: add available perl packages for Debian in install_misc/debian.packages
21:13 jenkins_koha * ian.walls: Bug 7078: Remove HTML::Template::Pro from Koha perl dependencies list
21:13 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Updating main INSTALL instructions
21:13 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Updating distro specific install files
21:13 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7063 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Add available perl packages for Debian in install_misc/debian.packages
21:13 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7078 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, NEW , HTML::Template::Pro still listed as Koha dependency
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21:31 rangi anyone got time to test my tarball?
21:32 wizzyrea you mean make sure it untars correctly?
21:32 rangi and that an install works
21:32 * wizzyrea really wanted to make a dirty joke there.
21:32 rangi hehe
21:33 wizzyrea gah I have a couple of things I *must* do, but then I can
21:33 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Updating version number for release <[…]4b2c8a2431589ac0c> / Release notes for 3.6.0 <[…]4e5b8994657f58d8d>
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22:28 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Release notes for 3.6.0
22:28 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Updating version number for release
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