Time Nick Message 00:51 druthb o/ 00:51 wizzyrea whaddup 00:51 druthb :-O 00:51 druthb how's wizzyrea? 00:52 wizzyrea oy, been sick for a couple of days but finally feeling better 00:52 wizzyrea how about you? 00:52 wahanui i guess you is ketchup Oak's friend, you! 00:52 druthb tha's good. n spud? 00:52 druthb I'm doing better...had a Big Win on something that'd had me stuck all week, which always helps. 00:52 jcamins_away \o 00:52 wizzyrea noice 00:52 druthb hi, jcamins_away! :) 00:53 druthb Dynix Classic systems can't keep secrets from me any more. :D 00:53 wizzyrea woohoo! 00:53 druthb They do things to the MARC that would make jcamins shudder, but I figured out how to splice things back together. 00:55 Danielle Go druthb! 00:55 druthb The thing that makes it really ugly is that they use ASCII 254 for a field delimiter...looks really heinous, but isn't. 00:55 jcamins Woohoo! 00:55 Danielle BTW, since I mentioned it earlier, the offer came through at the "good enough" level. :) 00:55 wizzyrea nice! 00:56 jcamins Myshkin has learned how to jump up and down. 00:57 druthb excellent, Danielle! I'm happy to hear that. 00:57 wizzyrea lol 00:57 Danielle Thank you! I'll be accepting it tommorrow. 00:57 wizzyrea at your cat 00:57 jcamins (like, trampoline-style up-and-down) 00:57 jcamins Congratulations, Danielle! 00:57 * Danielle has a friend whose kitten does that on her chest. 00:57 Danielle Thanks, jcamins 00:57 wizzyrea awesome 01:00 eythian druthb: liberty also uses 254, it's quite handy 01:01 eythian but it uses it as a quote character, and 0x14 as a field separator. 01:01 druthb Once you know what the fenceposts look like, you can pay attention to the fence. 01:01 eythian both of which are great because it can't export real CSVs and so things get really mixed up if it uses " and , 01:02 druthb In the case of CHR(254), it's useful to cross your eyes. 01:04 eythian all my scripts let me do things like "--fieldsep '0x14' --quotechar '0xFE'" to deal with this kind of thing. 02:24 * jcamins waves to eythian. 02:24 eythian hi 02:24 wahanui hey, eythian 04:05 Oak kia ora #koha 05:01 cait good morning #koha 05:04 Oak hello Katrin Fischer 05:04 cait hello Oak - so formal today? 05:04 Oak :) 05:22 Oak just thought why not try something different... 05:42 cait :) 06:14 magnuse kia ora #koha 06:15 alex_a bonjour 06:15 wahanui privet, alex_a 06:15 alex_a hi magnuse, cait 06:16 magnuse bonjour alex_a and cait 06:16 cait morning :) 06:18 cait 2403 words need attention - hmpf 06:18 magnuse lucky you 06:19 cait lucky me wished it was 0 06:21 magnuse didn't we all... ;-) 06:29 cait 2027 - getting there 06:32 magnuse yay! you can ndo it" 06:33 magnuse @arewethereyet 06:33 huginn magnuse: Not yet - wait 1 day 06:33 magnuse woohoo! 06:35 cait almost :) 06:49 sophie_m hi #koha 06:50 magnuse bonjour sophie_m 06:51 sophie_m bonjour magnuse :-) 06:56 reiveune1 hello 06:56 wahanui que tal, reiveune1 07:03 julian_m hello 07:10 asaurat hi! 07:25 kf hi #koha 07:26 kf morning paul_p :) 07:27 paul_p hello kf 07:36 kf @arewethereyet 07:36 huginn kf: Not yet - wait 1 day 07:39 kf @wunder Konstanz 07:39 huginn kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 2.5�C (9:35 AM CEST on October 21, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 30.38 in 1028.7 hPa (Rising). 07:39 kf first ice on the car windows and grass today 07:41 magnuse ouch 07:41 magnuse @wunder boo 07:41 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0�C (9:20 AM CEST on October 21, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Windchill: -1.0�C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Rising). 07:41 kf 1567 words need attention 07:41 magnuse we had some frost two weeks ago 07:41 magnuse yay! 07:42 kf getting there! 07:42 magnuse woohoo 07:53 kf 1125 words need attention 07:53 kf hehe 07:54 Oak kf++ 07:55 magnuse kf++ 07:56 * kf hides 07:56 magnuse don't hide, translate! ;-) 07:57 kf See the full documentation for Vendor Contracts in the 07:57 kf those are exhausting!" 08:00 francharb hello everyone 08:01 kf hi francharb :) 08:37 kf DONE! 08:43 magnuse woohoo!!!!!! 08:47 magnuse looks like danish, french, german, italianand spanish are the most diligent translators 09:24 kf :) 09:38 vfernandes hi koha commnunity 09:39 vfernandes can anyone help me with one thing, there is any bug realted to advanced search by itemtype? 09:40 kf there is a new feature 09:41 kf to make it more flexible 09:41 kf but I am not aware that it's broken 09:42 vfernandes for example i have 3 itemtype: AM AM_REF and AM_RES... if i search for some subject and for AM and AM_RES, some results with AM_RES appeared 09:42 vfernandes *some results with AM_REF appeared 09:43 vfernandes that means that the itemtype isn't searching by the exact word 09:43 kf when you searched for am and am_res - am_res appeared sounds right 09:44 kf ah 09:44 kf am_ref 09:44 kf hm that would not be cool I think 09:45 vfernandes maybe i need to use wrdl in that searches 09:45 magnuse vfernandes: did you get results that had *only* am_ref? 09:45 vfernandes let me check 09:45 magnuse or did you get results that had am_ref *and* one of those you searched for 09:46 vfernandes if i search for AM_RES i only get results with itemtype AM_RES 09:47 vfernandes if i search for AM i will obtain results with AM, AM_RES and AM_REF 09:47 magnuse sounds like automatic truncation? 09:48 vfernandes what you mean? 09:49 magnuse if autmatic truncation is on and you search for hors you get horse and horses 09:50 vfernandes automatic truncation is on 09:50 magnuse check out these system preferences, if you don't know them already: QueryAutoTruncate, QueryFuzzy, QueryStemming 09:51 magnuse try turning it off and see what happens 09:51 vfernandes ok let me see 09:53 vfernandes it's the same :/ 09:53 magnuse hmf 09:55 vfernandes maybe wrdl will do the trick 09:55 magnuse worth a try, i'm out of ideas i'm afraid 09:56 vfernandes ok thanks magnuse and kf 09:56 hdl hi all 09:58 kf vfernandes: perhaps worth a bug report 09:58 vfernandes maybe. the problem it's that AM match with AM_RES and AM_REF... 09:59 kf hm 09:59 kf another idea 09:59 kf perhaps it's the underscore 09:59 kf it's treated as space 09:59 magnuse ooh, good idea 09:59 vfernandes humm 10:00 vfernandes let me check the configs of zebra 10:01 vfernandes the underscore is a breakin character and is substituted for space 10:02 kf so that makes sense 10:02 kf and gives me an diea about how to solve a problem I had yesterday :) 10:02 kf yay 10:02 vfernandes i've removed the underscore from the lang_def of zerba and now i'm rebuild the indexes 10:02 vfernandes let's see if works 10:03 magnuse fingers crossed! 10:03 vfernandes yas :) 10:03 vfernandes it's rebuilding 80000 records :/ 10:04 magnuse get some coffee! 10:09 vfernandes good idea :) 10:12 Schwitzd Hi to everybody 10:16 Schwitzd Somebody know in with perl file are written the query that the mysql do to retourn a book 10:16 Schwitzd I want to understand what koha do in the database when a book is retourned 10:20 kf I don't know the perl file 10:20 kf but I would say it adds an entry to statistics and perhaps action_logs and it moves the entry from isseus to old_issues 10:26 kf Schwitzd: perldoc.koha-community.org 10:31 Schwitzd also something in the reserves and old_reserves 10:34 kf for holds 10:35 kf if there is a hold on it the status will change to waiting if you confirm the hold, or transport status 10:35 kf old_reserves should only have cancelled and returned holds 10:43 vfernandes kf and magnuse, removing the undescore from the lang_def didn't work 10:44 kf ah bummer 10:44 kf did you remove it from all lang_defs? 10:45 kf and perhaps it's also somewhere else in the config? not sure 10:45 vfernandes i've removed from en and fr lang_defs 10:45 kf you could try with other itemtypes to see if it is the underscore - create am amref and check if it's still happening? 10:46 vfernandes i'll try 11:09 vfernandes there is any form to obtain the exact match of one search 11:09 vfernandes phr is for phrase, wrdl is for wordlist 11:23 jcamins_away vfernandes: phr,complete-subfield:whatever (I think) 11:24 kf hi jcamins_away :) 11:25 jcamins_away Hello. 11:27 vfernandes what means ext? 11:28 vfernandes except? 11:29 jcamins_away vfernandes: I don't recall. 11:31 kf extinct? 11:31 kf only guessing 11:32 kf hehe looking up the word... probably not :) 11:33 vfernandes the problem with itemtypes is driving me crazy :) 12:15 Danielle \o 12:19 magnuse o/ 12:24 oleonard My 8-year-old's teacher sends out email newsletters to parents with no subject, no body, only an attachment entitled "USE THIS NEWSLETTER.doc." 12:25 oleonard I guess my daughter won't be learning how to email from her teacher. 12:26 oleonard But hey, kids don't email anymore do they? Or so I'm told. 12:27 magnuse tee hee 12:38 magnuse he was earlier, but not now 12:39 magnuse oops 12:39 kf hehe 12:39 asaurat email = old school 12:40 oleonard I wonder if these kids who think email is old school will start using it once they have jobs. 12:41 asaurat they will probably use some intranet facebook clones =) 12:41 oleonard Google+ coming soon to Google Apps users :) 12:41 magnuse or sms 12:42 kf scary 12:43 magnuse or mms, for attachments 12:43 asaurat actually we're talking about 15 years from now... it will be either something very hi-tech we can't even think about yet, or some kind of new poney express after the 2nd Great Depression :D 12:44 magnuse parchment scrolls ;-) 12:46 kf wax tables? 12:47 magnuse ooh, that sounds great for re-use 12:48 asaurat but not very compatible with the Global Warming App 12:48 magnuse hehe, better keep 'em in the fridge! 12:49 oleonard I think you mean a cool wet sack magnuse, it's the fridge of the future. 12:49 asaurat ie : in a cave :D 12:50 magnuse ah, sorry 12:52 kf hehe 12:52 kf now that's friday talk! 12:52 * kf gets out the bowl of cookies 12:53 kf magnuse: perhaps clay? 12:53 asaurat cookies!! 12:53 wahanui Cookies are delicious delicacies 12:53 magnuse yeah, this sort of feels like friday... 12:56 nengard magnuse it IS friday! :) 12:56 magnuse ah, that explains a lot! 12:56 nengard :) 12:57 oleonard It's even Friday for rangi :P 12:57 magnuse hehe 13:00 magnuse @wunder boo 13:01 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0�C (2:50 PM CEST on October 21, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Rising). 13:02 kf item data? 13:02 kf holdings? 13:02 kf items table? 13:02 magnuse happy birthday, hdl!!! 13:03 kf yes, alles Gute zum Geburtstag, hdl! 13:23 magnuse kia ora sekjal 13:24 sekjal kia ora, magnuse 13:35 libsysguy morning #koha 13:36 libsysguy sekjal I was thinking about starting a branch on my github for notifications…what are you thoughts on that? 13:36 Oak ... 13:37 sekjal libsysguy: that would be a good way to make your work public 13:37 sekjal but I think more spec work needs to be done 13:38 oleonard Uh oh... why is this account suspended for X days when I don't have any suspension in days amount specified? 13:38 libsysguy I think so too. I was hoping that after the 3.6 release we could pick it back up…and with a public repo everybody could work on it…unless koha already has something more official already in place 13:38 oleonard "Patron has had overdue items and is blocked for 43 day(s)" 13:39 oleonard Can you cancel a patron's suspension? 13:39 oleonard paul_p? 13:39 libsysguy are they debarred or suspended? 13:39 paul_p hello oleonard 13:40 * paul_p reading logs... 13:40 paul_p oleonard: yes, you can. Just undebar it, and that should be enough 13:40 paul_p (why it has been suspended is another question...) 13:41 paul_p if there is a debarment date => he's debarred. If no date => not debarred 13:41 oleonard paul_p: The account is not debarred 13:41 oleonard ...but I get the above message when I try to check out 13:41 libsysguy oh so it is the algorithm version of suspension not the database version 13:41 paul_p ??? why/how can you say that ? (he's not debarred) 13:42 sekjal oleonard: sounds he's got overdues (or had them), and somehow a rule in your DB is triggering some value of suspension in days 13:43 oleonard I did have fines, and just wrote them off 13:49 libsysguy when you checkin via dropbox mode for an item that would be overdue should you still get a warning message that the item is overdue 13:49 libsysguy I get one and I don't think it should be there 13:55 oleonard C4::Members::IsMemberBlocked is returning the "43" for my patron's borrowernumber 13:55 libsysguy actually I feel like this is an inherent issue after tracing the code…if anybody could verify I'd be forever in their debt 13:56 jcamins oleonard: it's an off-by-one error. 13:57 oleonard ? 13:57 jcamins oleonard: the answer is 42, naturally. ;) 13:58 oleonard :P 13:58 libsysguy clever jcamins 13:58 libsysguy oleonard: what function is calling IsMemberBlocked? 13:58 oleonard Circulation::CanBookBeIssued 13:59 sekjal IsMemberBlocked checks for finedays IS NOT NULL 13:59 oleonard ...and it's 0. 13:59 sekjal so, if you have finedays = 0 in any of your rules, it'll trigger 14:00 libsysguy wow thats brilliant 14:01 sekjal so, in that case, it'll just take the date difference between the returndate, and the current date 14:01 sekjal which means it would grow to 44 tomorrow 14:01 sekjal and so on 14:01 sekjal that's.... bad 14:01 libsysguy ^^ 14:01 oleonard And you can't set finedays to null when editing an issuing rule 14:01 libsysguy so we could change that check or null or 0 14:02 libsysguy and it would fix your issue right 14:02 sekjal yes, that's the fix 14:02 sekjal one more line to the SQL 14:02 sekjal "AND finedays != 0" 14:02 libsysguy shouldn't that make it into 3.6? 14:02 sekjal that's up to rangi 14:02 libsysguy that seems pretty important 14:03 libsysguy but yeah you're right 14:03 sekjal but it seems like a critical to me 14:03 sekjal and it's a one-line fix 14:03 sekjal who wants to write up the bug report? 14:03 libsysguy exactly…and easily verified 14:03 oleonard sekjal: Can we not just change WHERE finedays IS NOT NULL to WHERE finedays !=0 ? 14:03 sekjal oleonard: then NULLs would catch 14:03 oleonard Right, duh. 14:03 libsysguy !=0 wouldn't check for nuls 14:03 libsysguy ^^ 14:04 sekjal and since it's used in multiplication, I don't know if it would throw an even bigger error 14:04 sekjal is multiplying by NULL in MySQL the same as by 0? 14:04 libsysguy i think *NULL = NULL 14:05 libsysguy if i remember from my database class a year ago…but that was oracle not mysql 14:05 jcamins 50 * NULL = NULL 14:06 sekjal okay, so next question: ADDDATE(returndate, NULL) gives what? 14:06 jcamins What's the value of returndate? 14:06 libsysguy why on earth would you do that? 14:06 sekjal libsysguy: that's the query for IsMemberBlocked 14:06 sekjal DATEDIFF(ADDDATE(returndate, finedays * DATEDIFF(returndate,date_due)),NOW()) AS blockedcount 14:07 oleonard select ADDDATE('2011-02-11',NULL); returns NULL 14:07 libsysguy o_0... 14:08 sekjal okay, and datediff(null, now()) is null, too 14:09 oleonard I'll submit a bug if no one has already 14:09 sekjal thanks, oleonard 14:09 oleonard I can submit the patch too if there's not more to work out 14:09 sekjal I think we change the condition to "WHERE finedays > 0", and that should exclude both 0 and NULL 14:10 sekjal even though we seem to have verified that NULL is a safe value 14:10 jcamins sekjal: and negative numbers don't have a magic meaning? 14:10 sekjal jcamins: no special meaning 14:11 sekjal but I am curious what that'd do.... 14:12 sekjal it'd subtract from the return date instead of add 14:12 hdl thanks magnuse and kf 14:12 magnuse yay! 14:17 oleonard Bug 7075 14:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7075 critical, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Fine in days values are returned for patrons with past overdues when fine in days is set to 0 14:17 libsysguy no 14:17 libsysguy oops wrong window :-\ 14:18 sekjal lol 14:18 libsysguy I hate it when that happens 14:18 libsysguy at least I didn't say something embarrassing 14:18 sekjal it made some kind of sense, in context... 14:19 * sekjal may be a little loopy from the last few weeks 14:20 oleonard So what's your opinion sekjal, submit that one-line change? 14:21 sekjal yes, change the test from "is not null" to "> 0", and we should be all set 14:21 wahanui sekjal: that doesn't look right 14:21 * sekjal wonders if he has acquired the power to boot bots that disagree with him 14:21 jcamins sekjal: it's "change" 14:21 jcamins change something 14:21 wahanui jcamins: that doesn't look right 14:22 sekjal awesome! 14:22 wizzyrea always the skeptic 14:36 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7075] Fine in days values are returned for patrons with past overdues when fine in days is set to 0 <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7075> 14:37 slef change wahanui for a bot that doesn't crash? 14:37 wahanui slef: that doesn't look right 14:37 * oleonard gives wahanui an ice pack for his head 14:39 oleonard Hmmm.... So now I can edit other patrons' public lists 14:39 oleonard ...in the staff client 14:39 wizzyrea ! 14:40 wizzyrea wait, a patron can log into the staff client without staff permissions? 14:40 oleonard That's not what I'm saying 14:40 wizzyrea oh, thank heavens. 14:42 libsysguy would anyone be opposed to me adding a check for dropbox mode in AddReturn to see if an issue is overdue 14:43 libsysguy right now there is one…kind of…but the check doesn't actually change the warning message 14:43 oleonard Looks like it might be a superlibrarian thing wizzyrea 14:43 wizzyrea ah, well that makes a certain amount of sense 14:43 oleonard Yeah, something I've wanted (at least to the extent of making public lists private), but I don't think getting it via an unknown bug is the right way! 14:44 slef libsysguy: do what to the warning message? 14:44 libsysguy well if i check an item in that is overdue…but select dropbox mode…making it no longer overdue….i still get a warning about it being overdue 14:45 wizzyrea that's a bug, imo 14:45 wizzyrea and should be fixed :P 14:45 libsysguy because Circulation::GetItemIssue never checks to see if its in dropbox mode 14:45 libsysguy i only stumbled across it because im calculating fines on checkin 14:45 wizzyrea sounds like it's supposed to do it, it doesn't, you have a fix, go for it 14:46 libsysguy the only problem is…if i fix it…it won't be compatible with master…no hourly yet and this all relies on datetime 14:47 libsysguy :-\ 14:47 wizzyrea ah 14:47 libsysguy I suppose i can fix it in my production and then push it when master gets hourly 14:56 sekjal hey, everyone, just a heads up: I broke returns on current master 14:56 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7060] All instances of GetMemberDetails are unnecessary in C4::Circulation <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7060> 14:57 sekjal ^^ 14:57 sekjal fix submitted, but I just wanted to own up and apologize now 14:57 wizzyrea oh that's a bit terrifying 14:57 libsysguy its ok sekjal I haven't updated so I can easily forgive you 14:58 sekjal yeah, anyone who is running the code base from yesterday (or maybe even the day before) cannot return materials if they're checked out to a person with any kind of permissions 14:59 libsysguy can you let me know when that patch gets merged 14:59 sekjal libsysguy: sure thing 14:59 libsysguy gracias sir 14:59 sekjal this is what I get for coding in a bar late at night 14:59 oleonard "Can't use string ("1") as a HASH ref while "strict refs" in use at /home/oleonard/kohaclone/circ/returns.pl line 479" ? 14:59 * sekjal shakes head in personal disappointment 15:00 sekjal oleonard: yup, that's the error 15:00 libsysguy you were coding in a BAR?!? 15:00 libsysguy like a boss 15:00 oleonard codabar 15:01 sekjal I've been on a mission to make Koha more efficient 15:01 sekjal got over-confident 15:01 kf ohoh 15:01 wizzyrea bugs happen 15:01 kf yep 15:02 kf don't let it break your misson 15:02 wizzyrea ^^ 15:03 rangi yep its a good mission 15:03 rangi fredericd++ # po files ready to pull 15:04 rangi ill pull that fix now, its interetsting the unit tests didnt catch it 15:04 rangi theres something to fix 15:06 sekjal rangi: the root of the issue is that $borrower->{flags} means two different things, depending on whether its a GetMember $borrower or a GetMemberDetails $borrower 15:06 sekjal for GetMember, it's the value of borrowers.flags, which contains permissions 15:07 sekjal for GetMemberDetails, its a hashref of messages about things like "gone no address", "overdues", etc 15:07 oleonard The patch works for me, FWIW 15:07 reiveune1 by 15:07 reiveune1 bye 15:08 rangi yep, patch works for me 15:09 rangi pushing 15:09 sekjal thanks, rangi 15:09 sekjal sorry again, everyone 15:09 oleonard rangi, did you see our discussion of Bug 7075? 15:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7075 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Fine in days values are returned for patrons with past overdues when fine in days is set to 0 15:12 rangi ahhh yes 15:12 rangi that needs to be pushed 15:13 rangi sekjal do you have a chance to test that? i have to go eat breakfast but should be able to push that after then 15:13 rangi it seems fine to me 15:15 * rangi wanders off, back soon 15:15 sekjal rangi: I've tried to reproduce the error, but haven't succeeded yet 15:15 rangi ahhh 15:18 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'kc/new/bug_7060' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b6cc3acdac69a762f6aafdcaaac52cd31a1a200d> / Bug 7060 Followup: AddReturn needs GetMemberDetails <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c5bc35b6945a03e27dd369d368be33d97f76e509> 15:20 magnuse have fun, #koha 15:25 jenkins_koha Starting build 502 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #491 2 j 12 h ago) 15:31 sekjal oleonard: I cannot reproduce the error from 7075 15:31 oleonard Hmmm... Okay. Strange edge case? I'll take a look at my data. 15:37 sekjal yeah, my blockedcount value comes back as -20 (since I set the return date to 20 days ago), which does not trigger the IsMemberBlocked return value 15:47 rangi back 15:48 * sekjal offers up a speed improve for staff-side lists as an apology for 7060 15:48 sekjal bug 7076 15:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7076 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, NEW , shelfpage renders OPAC XSLT bloc for intranet Lists 15:50 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7076] shelfpage renders OPAC XSLT bloc for intranet Lists <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7076> 15:51 rangi sekjal: i probably will leave that for 3.6.1 15:51 sekjal rangi: totally cool 15:51 sekjal just wanted to do it, really 15:51 rangi im planning to just test and push the languages today, and write release notes 15:51 rangi cool :) 15:59 oleonard Okay, so 7075 is a very strange edge case indeed. Off the edge and into the next block. 16:00 oleonard I had a returndate in old_issues which was two months in the future (manually set when testing another bug) 16:01 oleonard I'm confused about how that caused the bug, but that's my guess. 16:01 wizzyrea bug 7075 16:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7075 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Fine in days values are returned for patrons with past overdues when fine in days is set to 0 16:01 oleonard sekjal: ^^ 16:01 sekjal wow 16:01 sekjal that would do it 16:06 oleonard So the bug is technically valid, but never reproduceable in the wild 16:07 * jcamins takes that bet, and waits patiently. 16:07 libsysguy haha whats the buy in for that? 16:07 rangi :) 16:07 libsysguy 20 koha karma pts 16:08 wizzyrea that's a lot of "--" 16:13 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #502: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/502/ 16:13 jenkins_koha ian.walls: Bug 7060 Followup: AddReturn needs GetMemberDetails 16:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7060 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, NEW , All instances of GetMemberDetails are unnecessary in C4::Circulation 16:40 rangi po files updated 16:41 jenkins_koha Starting build 503 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #491 2 j 13 h ago) 16:48 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Moving po files to 3.6.0 filenames <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=69333c9f79bf2cb8ac4e58f46da714dca962a8ee> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'tamil/3.6.0-translation' into new_po <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=684dab675bb99117453b729330c5761f7893725f> / 3.6.0 Translations update <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=019173ad50dc1872 17:07 fcapo I added a follow-up patch for Bug 6977 . I've found a bug on the patch that was pushed. 17:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6977 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, fcapovilla, ASSIGNED , Support for repeated subfields when importing an authority into a biblio record field. 17:29 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #503: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/503/ 17:29 jenkins_koha * f.demians: 3.6.0 Translations update 17:29 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Moving po files to 3.6.0 filenames 17:40 jenkins_koha Starting build 504 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #491 2 j 14 h ago) 17:40 sekjal doing a fresh install of latest master on Debian 6 17:41 sekjal the install_misc/debian.packages left 30 modules uninstalled 17:41 sekjal does that seem high? 17:41 jcamins sekjal: it seems to me that we don't use debian.packages. 17:42 sekjal ah, then the install docs for debian need to be updated 17:43 jcamins They say to use that? 17:43 sekjal yes, step 1.4 17:43 rangi hmm there was a patch for it 17:43 jcamins Hm. 17:43 rangi just recently 17:43 rangi if you can find it and test it 17:43 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'kc/new/bug_5995' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c8df6bdcc9fe2523a77c839270b31304d8e13ee5> / Bug 5995 Follow up: variable scope in koha/sco/sco-main.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8d7608cd64a74d3513fb618d39a5a0f414fdf6a3> 17:44 rangi im happy to push it 17:44 jcamins I sent a patch in a few months ago making the installation instructions accurate. 17:44 rangi if you can find that too :) 17:44 rangi but there was one updated the packages file too 17:44 jcamins rangi: my patch was pushed. 17:45 rangi cool 17:46 sekjal been a while since I've done a fresh install. what's the preferred method for getting all the debian packages possible? 17:47 jcamins sekjal: I had made the installation script do everything, but that was a while ago. 17:47 jcamins Long enough that I don't remember the name of the script. 17:47 sekjal bug 7063 17:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7063 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Add available perl packages for Debian in install_misc/debian.packages 17:47 rangi that one 17:48 sekjal checking it now... looks to cover most of the missing ones 17:49 jcamins rangi: do you know if eythian has made sure that the packages pull everything in? 17:50 rangi yes they do 17:50 rangi cool 17:50 jcamins I guess the dependencies are generated at build time, so that'll always be up-to-date. 17:50 jcamins packages++ 17:50 jcamins eythian++ 17:50 jcamins liw++ 17:50 rangi yep 17:50 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6977] Support for repeated subfields when importing an authority into a biblio record field. <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6977> 17:53 sekjal patch for 7063 does all except: CGI::Session::Driver::memcached, Gravatar::URL, and UNIVERSAL::Require 17:53 rangi cool 17:53 sekjal I'm also still getting koha_perl_deps.pl saying HTML::Template::Pro is a requirement 17:53 rangi ahh yeah thats worth fixing too 17:54 cait what's the plan for tonight? 17:55 sekjal going to install the patch, and continue testing. will sign off if it makes life better 17:55 rangi thanks 17:55 cait I am going to test translations 17:55 sekjal ah.... patch isn't actually a patch :( 17:56 jcamins [off] cait: make an offer on an apartment. Read the xkcd comic about mortgages, repeatedly. 17:58 cait hm? 18:14 sekjal okay, I can get install_misc/debian.packages to do all but 2 of the dependecies 18:14 sekjal not sure if Gravatar::URL or CGI::Sessions::Driver::memcached are even packaged... 18:16 Oak cait++ 18:16 cait Oak? 18:16 wahanui well, Oak is Arslan. I am a student doing masters in Library Science (2nd semester). I am a web developer and work in Joomla. 18:16 sekjal Gravatar::URL is 18:16 sekjal adding to patch 18:16 sekjal CGI::Session::Driver::memcached is only in sid and wheezy 18:16 Oak no reason 18:17 Oak :) 18:17 Oak i think you have been translating words all day, that's why 18:18 cait only in the morning, but was long enough :) 18:19 Oak hmm 18:28 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #504: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/504/ 18:28 jenkins_koha ian.walls: Bug 5995 Follow up: variable scope in koha/sco/sco-main.pl 18:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5995 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, matthias.meusburger, ASSIGNED , Glitch with checkauth 18:36 sekjal rangi: bug 7063 has attachment to get us all but one of the debian packages in the install_misc/debian.packages file 18:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7063 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Add available perl packages for Debian in install_misc/debian.packages 18:37 sekjal very encouraging 18:38 rangi cool excellent 18:38 rangi thanks 18:38 sekjal working on removing HTML::Template::Pro false positive in PerlDependencies 18:39 rangi thanks 18:40 rangi im about halfway through writing the release notes 18:41 oleonard Be sure to include the part where huginn chugged a while bottle of yellow mustard just because wahanui dared him. 18:41 rangi heh 18:47 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7063] Add available perl packages for Debian in install_misc/debian.packages <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7063> / [Bug 7078] HTML::Template::Pro still listed as Koha dependency <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7078> 18:58 Danielle \o 19:05 cait hi Danielle and yay :) 19:10 Danielle cait: Thanks. I just gave my verbal acceptance of the offer. :) 19:11 Danielle I'm not giving notice yet as there are still background check, references, and drug test to be done. 19:12 cait a drug test? 19:12 cait what kind of job is that? 19:17 rhcl_bsides [off] #bsidesmo Installing snort on windows? I must be the only person in the world that wonders what the ??? 19:19 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7077] Add system pref to control behavior of submitting empty barcode field on circulation page <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7077> 19:19 cait owen is already working on 3.8 :) 19:20 rangi heh 19:20 oleonard Hey, what else am I gonna do? 19:20 cait I think it's great :) 19:22 Danielle cait: Unfortunately, it's fairly common here. 19:23 cait hm ok 19:23 * Danielle isn't fond of it but not being independently wealthy or even close to that... 19:24 cait I had to get a police report oncen, when i was working a summer job for the german post 19:24 cait hm, if that is a correct translation 19:25 cait you know, letters, packages, post cards... 19:25 cait not supposed to steal or open those :) 19:25 cait fredericd: around? 19:26 Danielle cait: Post made sense to me. 19:27 cait ok 19:42 druthb o/ 19:42 druthb Good afternoon, #koha! Please meet my daughter Lindsey! :) 19:43 oleonard Hi lindseydb 19:43 lindseydb Hello. ^^ 19:43 jcamins Hi lindseydb! 19:45 druthb wahanui: bg? 19:45 wahanui I LIKE BREAKFAST BURRITOS AND I LOVE BASEBALL 19:45 druthb wahanui: druthb? 19:45 wahanui somebody said druthb was a travelin' woman. 19:45 jcamins First mother-daughter Koha-hacking team? 19:45 druthb I'm hoping so, jcamins! 19:45 druthb wahanui: lindseydb is druthb's finest achievement 19:45 wahanui OK, druthb. 19:45 lindseydb I haven't started yet. >.< We're working on that. 19:46 druthb lindseydb? 19:46 wahanui lindseydb is your finest achievement 19:46 cait hi lindseydb :) 19:47 lindseydb Hello, cait. :D 19:47 cait what are you 2 up to? 19:47 druthb mischief. 19:47 druthb also showing lindsey how she can keep in touch with me whilst I'm in India. 19:47 cait ah, so only the every day stuff 19:48 druthb yis. 19:48 * oleonard waves Happy Weekend to everyone 19:48 druthb Also, hoping she'll want to join our merry band, and start hacking on Koha. 19:50 jcamins And indeed, who wouldn't? 19:50 druthb Since she just absconded with my copy of _Learning_Perl_, I have hope. 19:50 cait she is probably going to finish it before I do 19:50 lindseydb I think this book would make a good weapon, as it is quite hefty. O-o 19:51 cait my 'java is also an island' book is a weapon 19:51 druthb lindseydb: cait is proof that you don't have to finish that book to be a super Koha developer. 19:51 cait lol :P 19:51 cait yeah guessing around can work too 19:51 cait only takes longer 19:52 jcamins "Java is also an island" book? 19:52 jcamins Heh. 19:52 lindseydb Well, I don't really speak computer, either. o.o So I think I'll stick to the book for now. 19:53 * druthb is gonna set up a VM, and make a copy, in case it gets broken. :) 19:53 liw luckily programming is easy, you just need to master the imperative and the conditional 19:53 druthb liw++ 19:53 jcamins Or, if you prefer the elegance of the lightsaber, parentheses. 19:55 lindseydb I like both lightsabers and parentheses. Guess I'll be good at this then. 19:55 druthb I'm hoping lindseydb learns to code before wizzyrea's spud does. 19:55 cait hehe 19:55 cait i think she will manage 19:55 druthb Given that she's nearly 19, and he's 3...there is hope. 19:56 Danielle hehe 19:56 wizzyrea whaddup linds :) 19:56 wizzyrea give the captain a tickle for me 19:56 wizzyrea well, more from spud 19:57 lindseydb Hello, wizzyrea. And I will tonight, once he starts using me as a bed agian. 19:57 lindseydb ^^ 19:57 wizzyrea hehe 20:19 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Updating distro specific install files <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d89eb95b0be7d1b3d58555b1af305bb717e34822> / Updating main INSTALL instructions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=55306b9267f3ec9a2fec29e2ae1679ce69e25240> / Bug 7078: Remove HTML::Template::Pro from Koha perl dependencies list <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h= 20:24 sekjal rangi: did a fresh install of Koha on Debian Squeeze, following the INSTALL.debian instructions. system is standing up and running demo data just fine 20:24 cait translations seem ok to me 20:25 jenkins_koha Starting build 505 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #491 2 j 17 h ago) 20:26 jcamins Has jenkins switched to French? 20:26 jcamins ("2 j") 20:33 rangi sweet thank you 21:13 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #505: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/505/ 21:13 jenkins_koha * ian.walls: Bug 7063: add available perl packages for Debian in install_misc/debian.packages 21:13 jenkins_koha * ian.walls: Bug 7078: Remove HTML::Template::Pro from Koha perl dependencies list 21:13 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Updating main INSTALL instructions 21:13 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Updating distro specific install files 21:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7063 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Add available perl packages for Debian in install_misc/debian.packages 21:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7078 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, NEW , HTML::Template::Pro still listed as Koha dependency 21:31 rangi anyone got time to test my tarball? 21:32 wizzyrea you mean make sure it untars correctly? 21:32 rangi and that an install works 21:32 * wizzyrea really wanted to make a dirty joke there. 21:32 rangi hehe 21:33 wizzyrea gah I have a couple of things I *must* do, but then I can 21:33 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Updating version number for release <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=52c666edce4261a1acafaa34b2c8a2431589ac0c> / Release notes for 3.6.0 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f4d9b8e9dc261f92eb792e04e5b8994657f58d8d> 21:39 rangi [off] http://stats.workbuffer.org/koha-3.06.00.000.tar.gz 21:40 jenkins_koha Starting build 506 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #491 2 j 18 h ago) 22:28 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #506: STILL UNSTABLE in 47 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/506/ 22:28 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Release notes for 3.6.0 22:28 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Updating version number for release