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eythian |
@later tell NateC we had Abrakebabra for lunch. Just sayin' |
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huginn |
eythian: The operation succeeded. |
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rangi |
heh |
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wajasu |
my master git pull, dev install, has koha-httpd.conf with ScriptAlias /search "/home/koha344/prj/kohaclone/opac/opac-search.pl" in the opac section. but what should it be for the Intranet section. "/home/koha344/prj/kohaclone/search.pl" or maybe "/home/koha344/prj/kohaclone/catalogue/search.pl" (the 1st isnt there). or am i misconfigured. |
| 01:22 |
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wajasu |
i was comparin my 3.4.4 install to the master dev install. |
| 01:29 |
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wajasu |
and what should mt ScriptAlias be for /cgi-bin/koha/ in my intranet section? |
| 01:30 |
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jcamins_away |
wajasu: what's wrong with the koha-httpd.conf that comes with Koha? |
| 01:31 |
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jcamins_away |
It seems to me using the supplied one would be a lot easier and a lot less error-prone. |
| 01:34 |
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wajasu |
i don't have the a2enmod, a2ensite apache tools (archlinux apache httpd server). so i always have to teak my own. i really have to add <Directory "/home/koha344/prj/kohaclone ... "> direftive the file to get access, since everything is denied by default. |
| 01:35 |
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jcamins_away |
wajasu: couldn't you just do the traditional ln -s /etc/apache2/sites-available/koha /etc/apache2/sites-enabled ? |
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wajasu |
but when i was inspecting the ScriptAlias entries, i saw the intranet Virtualhost had ScriptAlias /search "/home/koha344/prj/kohaclone/search.pl" for my dev install. i'm trying to do a patch tonight. and archlinnux doesn't have /etc/apache2... |
| 01:38 |
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jcamins_away |
You must have Apache configuration files somewhere... |
| 01:39 |
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wajasu |
i have /etc/httpd/conf/... but no sites-available or sites-enabled. |
| 01:39 |
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jcamins_away |
Okay, just stick it in /etc/httpd/conf. |
| 01:40 |
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wajasu |
i linked that up fine.( ln -s). |
| 01:40 |
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jcamins_away |
Then enable mod_rewrite and you should be good to go. |
| 01:40 |
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wajasu |
what i an saying is: do you have /search working for intranet at :8080? |
| 01:40 |
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jcamins_away |
Ah. |
| 01:40 |
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jcamins_away |
Probably not. |
| 01:41 |
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eythian |
No, I don't think that's required |
| 01:41 |
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jcamins_away |
Nope. |
| 01:41 |
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jcamins_away |
eythian: mod_rewrite isn't required? |
| 01:41 |
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jcamins_away |
The instructions say to enable it. |
| 01:41 |
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jcamins_away |
wajasu: that is, no, /search doesn't do anything. |
| 01:41 |
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eythian |
rewrite is different |
| 01:42 |
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eythian |
the /search thing isn't required |
| 01:42 |
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jcamins_away |
Oh. Gotcha. |
| 01:42 |
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* jcamins_away |
is a bit tired. |
| 01:42 |
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eythian |
although I note it is set up for the staff client |
| 01:42 |
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wajasu |
its an old vestigal organ from days gone by. |
| 01:42 |
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eythian |
ScriptAlias /search "/usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/search.pl" |
| 01:42 |
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eythian |
it allows things like: RewriteRule ^/isbn/([^\/]*)/?$ /search?q=isbn:$1 [PT] |
| 01:44 |
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wajasu |
ScriptAlias /search "/home/koha344/prj/kohaclone/search.pl" is what my dev install (master pull) has. which points to nothing, unless a rewrite handle that. |
| 01:45 |
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eythian |
ls: cannot access /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/search.pl: No such file or directory |
| 01:45 |
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eythian |
same here |
| 01:45 |
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eythian |
I suspect it's been long broken |
| 01:45 |
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eythian |
and no one has ever tried to use it |
| 01:45 |
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wajasu |
thats what i am saying! |
| 01:46 |
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jcamins_away |
wajasu: sorry, I thought you were trying to write your own Apache config. |
| 01:46 |
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eythian |
So I think you'd be fine not setting it at all. |
| 01:46 |
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wajasu |
i'm about to run my master git pull, which will update, and was wiring up things and saw the discrepency. |
| 01:46 |
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eythian |
oh, me too |
| 01:46 |
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wajasu |
sorry. i just noticed it changed since 3.4.4 |
| 01:50 |
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wajasu |
i also notice when i do a single or a dev install, my zebra-biblios.cfg, zebra-authorites.cfg and zebra-authorities-dom.cfg don't change the ModulesPath with my prefix. Is that OK. Probably typical. I change them to /home/koha344/usr/lib/idzebra-2.0/modules. I wish they got the /home/koha344 prefix put before /usr/lib/idzebra-2.0/modules lke everywhere else in the .cfg |
| 01:50 |
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rangi |
hmm that line is there in the 3.4.4 as well, in etc/koha-httpd.conf |
| 01:51 |
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eythian |
wajasu: the modules are defined by where you install zebra to, right? |
| 01:51 |
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eythian |
so how could the koha installer change them? |
| 01:51 |
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wajasu |
true |
| 01:51 |
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eythian |
If I do a dev install, my modules are still in /usr/lib/... |
| 01:53 |
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eythian |
it should really be defined by something in /etc that can be overridden on a case-by-case basis |
| 01:55 |
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wajasu |
it could only handle that if we put another question in the installer, or assume if i have a different prefix, that it would be consistent. |
| 01:55 |
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eythian |
everyone has a different prefix for dev installs |
| 01:56 |
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wajasu |
maybe another question in the installer for single and dev installs. |
| 01:56 |
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eythian |
or just install your zebra into the system location and have it not be a problem :) |
| 01:56 |
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wajasu |
true. |
| 01:57 |
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jcamins_away |
@later tell nengard This may sound kind of obvious, but a video on how to change your own password in Koha might not be a bad idea. |
| 01:57 |
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huginn |
jcamins_away: The operation succeeded. |
| 01:59 |
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wajasu |
if my DocumentRoot for opac is /home/koha344/prj/kohaclone/koha-tmpl will that give them access to intranet-tmpl too? I'll try. |
| 02:02 |
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eythian |
they don't run the files in -tmpl. |
| 02:02 |
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wajasu |
oh i see |
| 02:02 |
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wajasu |
its the cgi-bin stuff that matters |
| 02:02 |
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eythian |
yeah |
| 02:04 |
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wajasu |
so the cgi-bin for the intranet is? .../kohaclone? |
| 02:05 |
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wajasu |
i get that the opac is .../kohaclone/opac |
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| 02:33 |
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wajasu |
trying to access the staff client, but get Software error: Can't locate DBI.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /home/koha344/prj/kohaclone /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl /usr/share/perl5/site_perl ... |
| 02:34 |
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jcamins_away |
Sounds like you're missing some Perl modules. |
| 02:34 |
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* eythian |
still thinks that running Debian would make life so much easier than Arch ;) |
| 02:35 |
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wajasu |
its the same user account as my 3.4.4 install, with its ~/.cpan that perlbrew populated. I have none missing, when i run koha_perl_deps.pl |
| 02:35 |
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jcamins_away |
Heh. |
| 02:35 |
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* jcamins_away |
agrees. |
| 02:35 |
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jcamins_away |
In that case, sounds like you need to add something to PERL5LIB. |
| 02:36 |
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jcamins_away |
No idea what. |
| 02:36 |
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wajasu |
maybe the PERL5LIB in koha_httpd.conf |
| 02:36 |
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jcamins_away |
Just speculating. |
| 02:36 |
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jcamins_away |
Yeah, that was my thought. |
| 02:36 |
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wajasu |
can i add multiple paths to that |
| 02:36 |
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jcamins_away |
I don't know. |
| 02:36 |
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jcamins_away |
Probably? |
| 02:36 |
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wahanui |
Probably is mate, Im not running the latest version on here. |
| 02:37 |
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eythian |
yes |
| 02:37 |
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wajasu |
i'll try to add my perlbrew based cpan |
| 02:37 |
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* eythian |
pats apt-get on the head. It's a good puppy. |
| 02:38 |
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wajasu |
and include the current one so i can get kohaclone/C4 |
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* jcamins_away |
waves to sekjal. |
| 02:42 |
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sekjal |
hi, jcamins_away |
| 02:44 |
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jcamins_away |
Has anyone ever done an online survey for evaluating Koha? |
| 02:45 |
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jcamins_away |
Like, some sort of usability evaluation type thing. |
| 02:50 |
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* jcamins_away |
leaves everyone to ponder that thought, and goes to get some sleep. |
| 02:50 |
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jcamins_away |
Good night, #koha |
| 02:54 |
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eythian |
http://www.flickr.com/photos/v[…]7820110/lightbox/ |
| 02:55 |
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rangi |
heh |
| 02:55 |
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rangi |
http://haveyouseenthisflyer.com/ |
| 02:56 |
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rangi |
i still like the dog one |
| 02:56 |
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rangi |
http://www.neatorama.com/2009/[…]ou-seen-this-dog/ |
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* Oak |
waves |
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rangi |
hey cait |
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cait |
evening rangi :) |
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* rangi |
is on the bus home |
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* cait |
is getting ready for work :) |
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liw |
rangi, I might be possible to persuade to go to Edinburgh for KohaCon and give a brief talk on... Debian packaging? |
| 06:19 |
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rangi |
perfect! |
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cait |
:) |
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alex_a |
hello :) |
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paul_p |
good morning #koha |
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hi #koha |
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kf |
good morning #koha |
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ropuch |
hello kf [; |
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kf |
hi ropuch! |
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kf |
nice to see you |
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reiveune |
hello |
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hi reiveune |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6943] Create new budget from a copy of a previous budget <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6943> |
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oleonard |
Happy Friday #koha |
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oleonard |
Hello to both paul_p's |
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paul_p_ |
hi oleonard ;-) |
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* oleonard |
was just testing Bug 5877 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5877 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , Offline circulation improvements : upload all files, apply at once |
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oleonard |
No, not that one. |
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oleonard |
Bug 5981 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5981 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, alex.arnaud, ASSIGNED , OPAC: Add limits to search history |
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kf |
happy friday oleonard :) |
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* oleonard |
could have sworn he fixed Bug 6947 once before |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6947 minor, P5, ---, ian.walls, NEW , OPAC top-issues doesn't respect item-level itypes |
| 12:53 |
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oleonard |
Bug 3459 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3459 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, topissues doesn't take care of ccode. |
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oleonard |
Different I guess. |
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oleonard |
Hm, so Bugzilla now lists rel_2_2, rel_3_0, rel_3_2, rel_3_4, rel_3_6, and Rel_3_8. And now my teeth hurt. |
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rh_at_lita |
@seen wizzyrea |
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huginn |
rh_at_lita: wizzyrea was last seen in #koha 15 hours, 51 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: <wizzyrea> the carrying capacity of an unladen african swallow |
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* oleonard |
wonders how kf managed to collect so much gold |
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* oleonard |
tries the KOCT in Firefox 7 but it doesn't appear to work |
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rh_at_lita |
koct? |
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oleonard |
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-[…]refox/addon/koct/ |
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kf |
oleonard: gold digger genes? |
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kf |
oleonard: but it was really hard to get that chocolate fish! |
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kf |
s/gold digger/something nicer |
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kf |
s/something nicer/gold miner |
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oleonard |
KOCT works in FF3.6, but it's really annoying that it doesn't save the patron barcode between transactions |
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maximep |
oleonard: thanks for the follow-up patch in bug 6945 =) |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6945 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, pelletiermaxime, ASSIGNED , Add a link to show a MARC preview in the normal view |
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oleonard |
Sure. I liked the idea to add the preview, so I was happy to contribute. |
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kf |
maximep: was happy to see the budget duplicate feature! |
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kf |
hope to find time testing it |
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kf |
lots of libraries have asked me about a feature like that when I was presenting acq |
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maximep |
cool! :D |
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paul_p |
oleonard, what do you mean by doesn't appear to work ? |
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oleonard |
When I enter a patron card and item barcode and click "save" nothing happens. |
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oleonard |
No message that anything has been added, nothing in the log |
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paul_p |
mmm... strange works for me (just checked) |
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paul_p |
I get the "1 row added", "2 rows added" ... |
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oleonard |
Really? I'll have to check again. It may be a compatibility issue with one of my other addons. |
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paul_p |
or mac ? |
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* oleonard |
has a password-manager addon that causes all kinds of trouble |
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jcamins |
Good morning, #koha |
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rhcl_lita |
jcamins |
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jcamins |
rhcl_lita: how's LITA? |
| 14:01 |
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jcamins |
(I gather that's where you are?) |
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rhcl_lita |
yep, at the preconference. Session discussing cloud (Amazon AWS mostly), workshop on setting up instances and managing machines |
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rhcl_lita |
discussion of vufind DSpace, etc |
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jcamins |
AWS is pretty nifty. Learning anything useful? |
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rhcl_lita |
Yep, I have been intending to setup something on Amazon for a while, and just haven't gotten around to it, but this session is encouraging me to do something. |
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jcamins |
rhcl_lita: one of the features that I find really intriguing is RDS. Seems like a great way to manage a database. |
| 14:14 |
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rhcl_lita |
Presenter just talked about that--does sound good |
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jcamins |
Also nifty is the fact that they now offer a memcached server. |
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rhcl_lita |
jineshvaria.s3.amazonaws.com/public/cloudbestpractices-jvaria.pdf |
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jcamins |
They're up to Firefox 7? That was fast. |
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wizzyrea |
^^ this makes me annoyed. |
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* oleonard |
too |
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trea |
pushing minor revisions into a product, and giving said product a whole new version number is no bueno. |
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oleonard |
Reminds me of something, it does. |
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nengard |
can someone tell me the values that can be found in constrainttype in the reserves table and what they mean? |
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* wizzyrea |
wishes the kiwis were up, I have a packaging question |
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wizzyrea |
nengard, sec |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: a packaging question? I always find that asking my packaging question of the channel at large is a sure-fire way to realize my question had an obvious answer. ;) |
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wizzyrea |
more to do with building packages |
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maximep |
well firefox7 has big memory usage improvements. I don't even remember if ff6 had anything new :S |
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wizzyrea |
recent benchmarks say that 7 is faster than chrome |
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wizzyrea |
which would be great, because JEBUS firefox was a dog for a while |
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rhcl_lita |
any lightning comments on vufind? |
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wizzyrea |
an old dog. That couldn't see. |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: yeah, those are the questions that I always find the answer to immediately after revealing my ignorance. |
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maximep |
firefox is so much better for my use case of opening hundreds of tabs in tab groups. Chrome couldn't do that |
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wizzyrea |
speak to me of this "tab groups" feature |
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* wizzyrea |
is also a zillions of tabs type |
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jcamins |
maximep: that sounds like something wizzyrea could use. |
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sekjal |
can anyone here change the maximum attachment size in bugs.k-c.org? |
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wizzyrea |
^^ see, they know me ;) |
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wizzyrea |
gmcharlt might be able to |
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wizzyrea |
ping gmcharlt |
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maximep |
for every projct I work on I create a new tab group. This way it's all organized and doesn't need to open all the tabs every time |
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jcamins |
Grr. I can't find this book. |
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sekjal |
I want to attach an example for bug 6789 to make it easier to test, but the test by it's nature requires a file larger than the current 1000KB limit |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6789 minor, P5, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , Biblios with many items can result in broken search results links |
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maximep |
ctrl+shift+e is bery useful =) |
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wizzyrea |
this seems compelling. |
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wizzyrea |
sekjal - you could (temporarily) host it elsewhere and post a link? |
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wizzyrea |
not optimal, but doable |
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rhcl_lita |
@seen paul_p |
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huginn |
rhcl_lita: paul_p was last seen in #koha 52 minutes and 31 seconds ago: <paul_p> or mac ? |
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wizzyrea |
nengard the only constrainttype I'm seeing is 'a' |
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paul_p |
rhcl_lita, you need me ? |
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wizzyrea |
and as to what that means... good question |
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rhcl_lita |
do you have any libraries running vufind (realizing you are a Solr promoter)? A Bangladesh library is the only one listed running Koha and VUfind. |
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rhcl_lita |
http://vufind.org/wiki/installation_status |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: by the way, what was your packaging question. I probably won't know the answer, but it's possible. |
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paul_p |
rhcl_lita, nope, we don't have anyone running vufind |
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nengard |
wizzyrea me too |
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nengard |
do we know what 'a' is? |
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nengard |
jcamins video idea added to my listr |
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nengard |
list |
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* oleonard |
gives these tab groups things a try |
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sekjal |
wizzyrea: done, added link on bug report back to ByWater site |
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wizzyrea |
sekjal: it at least lets you get the work done :) |
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nengard |
in the same table (reserves) any idea what goes in notificationdate and reminderdate? it's not when a notice is sent ? cause i just tried that |
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oleonard |
I don't think those are used nengard |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6789] Biblios with many items can result in broken search results links <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6789> |
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nengard |
and finally in that table ? lowestPriority appears to always be 0 |
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nengard |
any idea what it's used for? |
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oleonard |
Is it for when you "pin" someone at the bottom of the holds list? |
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nengard |
then wouldn't their priority number show that? |
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nengard |
let me try |
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nengard |
oleonard i'm not sure pinning even works |
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nengard |
fyi |
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wizzyrea |
certainly the buttons were messed up |
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wizzyrea |
eythian was supposed to be coming up for a fix for it... I can't remember if that got in |
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* wizzyrea |
checks |
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nengard |
the buttons move the person to the bottom but if i add someone else that new person goes below them |
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nengard |
pinning sounds like the bottom person shoould stay at the bottom |
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nengard |
anyway that field never changes in the db |
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nengard |
it's always 0 for me |
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nengard |
phone call time |
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wizzyrea |
same for me |
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oleonard |
Left without saying goodbye! |
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wizzyrea |
yay reiveune is back! |
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reiveune |
not for a long time, |
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reiveune |
:) I'll be back |
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reiveune |
by |
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wizzyrea |
oh there we go |
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wizzyrea |
at least he said goodbye that time. |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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kf |
nengard: I think priority number would now show because it should always resort them to be the last - so changing numbers |
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kf |
hm scrolling down would be good... *sighs* |
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wizzyrea |
hi kf :) |
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wizzyrea |
glad you're back |
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Oak |
hello #koha |
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rhcl_lita |
hi hi |
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Oak |
:) :) |
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slef |
oh wow. Is my nick feminine, masculine, or neutral? |
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Oak |
neutral I think |
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slef |
I didn't pick it. I never even considered this before. |
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kf |
I know the problem |
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wizzyrea |
neutral, in both cases. |
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wizzyrea |
:P |
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slef |
ok, I've put that in |
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* oleonard |
pondered for a moment what feminine names start with "O" |
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Oak |
Olga |
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wizzyrea |
Olivia |
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slef |
Odd-job |
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wizzyrea |
Octavia |
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slef |
this is always one of two problems I have with gender/participation surveys... I don't really pay much attention to it |
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* jcamins |
considers his neutral. He could be "Joan Camins." Actually, he keeps on getting e-mails for her. |
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slef |
jcamins: I keep getting emails for a school near London. |
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rhcl_lita |
I think slef is masculine - sounds like a Scandinavian mythical character |
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oleonard |
Oh yeah, I've gotten emails for Orla Leonard |
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oleonard |
In particular because she puts in my email address when trying to reset her passwords |
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kf |
marc makes my brain hurt :( |
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jcamins |
That is not a name I've heard before. |
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slef |
rhcl_lita: actually, if you want to look at Scandinavians, SLEF is the Swedish Lutheran Evangelical Foundation; and I believe it's a word in Icelandic |
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jcamins |
kf: as it does to everyone's brain. :( |
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slef |
jcamins: there's a BBC reporter called Orla Guerin... was in the middle East last I remember |
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kf |
yeah, but it doesn't help when 3 different fields from union catalog end up in the same marc field :( |
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oleonard |
Uh oh, Orla hasn't updated her Twitter since August. Maybe because she can't reset her password? |
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kf |
@marc 581 |
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huginn |
kf: A citation to or information about a publication that is a study or analysis of the described materials. (Repeatable) [a,z,3,6,8] |
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kf |
jcamins: can you shorten that to a label for me? plz? :) |
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kf |
jcamins: never mind, I think I found something |
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jcamins |
kf: I'd have to think about that a bit. |
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kf |
it's ok :) |
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kf |
no reason to make your brain hurt - I will ask the library what they want |
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jcamins |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
she sends them to your acpl email? |
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wizzyrea |
or your gmail |
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oleonard |
gmail |
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slef |
kf, jcamins: http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd5xx.html calls it "Publications About Described Materials Note" - not sure what copyright licence that's under, though. |
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jcamins |
slef: I think the problem is that it needs a _short_ label. |
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slef |
like how short? |
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slef |
Materials Publications Note? |
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* oleonard |
thinks we need a Tags component for Bugzilla |
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slef |
trouble is you lose meaning all the while |
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jcamins |
slef: yeah, that's the problem. |
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jcamins |
But I think that's the length kf was looking for. |
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Oak |
give it a nickname |
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jcamins |
Like "Ben"? |
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wizzyrea |
"tickles" |
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Oak |
how about Maria |
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Oak |
hehe |
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Oak |
tickles :) |
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jcamins |
Oy. I have a 10am and a 6:30pm on Monday. |
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Oak |
good luck! |
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jcamins |
Oak: they're not daunting meetings, just widely spaced. |
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Oak |
:) still, a meeting is a meeting |
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jcamins |
True. |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6716] Database Documentation <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6716> |
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rhcl_lita |
re: VUFind I love the 'text this' option in the catalog. |
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rhcl_lita |
It saves paper, I don't have to find the scrap of paper I wrote on, and I don't have to wonder if I transposed the call number. |
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rhcl_lita |
Wonder what that would cost for Koha? |
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jcamins |
rhcl_lita: talk to sekjal about it. He was working on it. |
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sekjal |
rhcl_lita: we're looking at an SMS::Send::Driver-less way of doing SMS in Koha |
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sekjal |
don't have the estimate yet; it would likely involve us tracking the patron's cell provider |
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wizzyrea |
what i'm wondering |
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wizzyrea |
is why don't we use email |
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* oleonard |
thinks the scrap of paper would be cheaper, but he doesn't have a texting plan |
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wizzyrea |
to email sms's to phones |
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rhcl_lita |
why would you have to track the cell provider? Just have a pull down list and let the patron enter the cell phone number |
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wizzyrea |
put the info in the subject, done. |
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wizzyrea |
but you'd have to store that, right rhcl? |
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wizzyrea |
hence, tracking. |
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jcamins |
sekjal: ooh! I bet you left NYU before they implemented GetIt. |
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jcamins |
sekjal: one moment while I get you a link. |
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sekjal |
jcamins: thanks |
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jcamins |
Hm. |
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* oleonard |
realizes if we added a Tags component to Bugzilla there would be no one to be default asignee |
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jcamins |
This is a bit problematic. |
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jcamins |
Oh, never mind, here's a short URL. |
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jcamins |
https://getit.library.nyu.edu/go/2694595 |
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jcamins |
Note the "Send to phone" option on the right. |
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rhcl_lita |
sekjal: why store? let the patron enter it, send the sms, then >/dev/null it. |
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jcamins |
Note that last I heard, the Send to phone service was _incredibly_ popular. |
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jcamins |
Even without any way to link it to the patron's account. |
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sekjal |
rhcl_lita: that wouldn't be so bad; could control with an Auth Value |
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rhcl_lita |
oops, should have been directed to wizzyrea |
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wizzyrea |
meh |
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kf |
rhcl_lita: I think the problem is that someone has to pay for the sms - usually the sender |
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wizzyrea |
both, usually. |
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sekjal |
jcamins: yes, we could do it just like NYU Bobst is doing |
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jcamins |
kf: in the US, it's possible to send it so that the recipient pays. |
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sekjal |
their mechanism sends the SMS over email |
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jcamins |
sekjal: exactly. It's really cool. |
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sekjal |
that's why you need to know the provider, so you know the email domain |
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rhcl_lita |
kf: humm, can't be nearly what ILL costs us. And you could always email to sms via a gateway |
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wizzyrea |
idk why we don't just do emails in the first place. |
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kf |
rhcl_lita: not sure if things are different here |
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kf |
rhcl_lita: I only know of one ils here that can send sms and it requires you to buy 'batches' of sms, like buy 10000 text messages to be sent out |
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kf |
from a provider |
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rhcl_lita |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_SMS_gateways |
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kf |
at least it was like that when I asked a few years back on library congress |
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sekjal |
brb |
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rhcl_lita |
donno, seems pretty simple to me. Just get the input phone and service, pipe that into a script which creates an email and send. |
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kf |
rhcl_lita: you might be right - would be very cool |
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slef |
oh hell it's mailman day |
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rhcl_lita |
time for chow @ the hyatt |
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oleonard |
paul_p still around? |
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oleonard |
Or anyone who is familiar with the offline circ tool? |
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* oleonard |
is wondering about the buttons which say "Commit to Koha" and "Apply directly"... |
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jcamins |
Argh! When did Portrayed become Depicted? |
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wizzyrea |
oleonard the firefox addon? |
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oleonard |
Yeah |
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* wizzyrea |
has it installed |
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wizzyrea |
where do you see that? |
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oleonard |
The Log tab |
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oleonard |
Where does it save the data? |
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wizzyrea |
that is a very good question. |
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Oak |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_firefox_plugin |
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oleonard |
Yeah, that page shows a screenshot of a page in Koha which isn't actually in Koha as far as I can tell. |
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oleonard |
"Process pending offline circulations?" |
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maximep |
there's a ff plugin to do offline circ ? cool |
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maximep |
no link to it on that wiki page ? |
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wizzyrea |
it's called KOCT |
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wizzyrea |
it's in the firefox plugin repository |
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oleonard |
Cool except it doesn't seem to work maximep |
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jcamins |
Koha Offline Circulation Tool? |
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jcamins |
(guessing what the acronym is) |
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oleonard |
Koha Offline Circulation Tool is https://addons.mozilla.org/en-[…]refox/addon/koct/ |
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jcamins |
Ah, cool, I was right. :) |
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oleonard |
Koha Offline Circulation Tool? |
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wahanui |
Koha Offline Circulation Tool is https://addons.mozilla.org/en-[…]refox/addon/koct/ |
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oleonard |
KOCT is Koha Offline Circulation Tool |
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oleonard |
KOCT? |
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wahanui |
KOCT is Koha Offline Circulation Tool |
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jcamins |
nengard_lunch: cn_sort is a normalized form of the itemcallnumber used for sorting. |
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nengard_lunch |
thanks |
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nengard_lunch |
i'll add it |
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jcamins |
You're welcome. Enjoy lunch. |
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slef |
KOCT is also https://addons.mozilla.org/en-[…]refox/addon/koct/ |
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wahanui |
okay, slef. |
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cait |
hi #koha |
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slef |
hi cait |
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cait |
hi slef :) |
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* slef |
prods this migrating Koha |
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cait |
? |
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slef |
it's being a bit slow.... it's only 6kbiblios |
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cait |
not a lot |
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cait |
should load quickly? |
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slef |
yeah... I think I can see why they want a new server! |
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slef |
this is getting the data out which is being slow |
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* oleonard-away |
idly wonders whether slef has ever been identified as S. Lef. |
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slef |
oleonard: NAFAIK |
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* cait |
wears her feminine nick tonight |
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oleonard |
I might be nice to have a database update log for keeping track of what updates have been applied via updatedatabase.pl |
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cait |
hm, would not be hard probably? |
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oleonard |
It would be relevant to only a small subset of users, but useful for developers and testers |
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cait |
yes |
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slef |
oleonard: like a table listing all update UUIDs, with updates just being SQL files added to a directory and maybe a tracking file. |
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maximep |
how do I make translatable strings in a .pl ? |
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maximep |
is there a way ? |
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maximep |
there's so many strings not translated that are in .pl files :/ |
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oleonard |
Move them to the template |
| 18:53 |
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cait |
yep |
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cait |
maximep: all that should be in templates, not in the pl files |
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maximep |
C4::Letters::EnqueurLetter takes a parameter with the title and content of the message |
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maximep |
I don't know how I could pu that in a template |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
notices |
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cait |
normally it should be a template from tools > notices |
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cait |
that defines the subject and content |
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oleonard |
maximep: Consider filing a bug, "Move untranslatable strings into templates" and then create blocking bugs for each instance |
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cait |
are we talking about the address change mail? |
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maximep |
cait: ah, I see |
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maximep |
yeah I remember using that |
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maximep |
I have never sent a patch with a database change (well, adding a new line in the letter table in this case) before |
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maximep |
is there something on a wiki on this ? |
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cait |
there is |
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cait |
let me get the link for you |
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cait |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ng_Database_Files |
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cait |
what you have to do |
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cait |
create a patch with kohastructure.sql changed |
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cait |
and updatedatabase.pl with a new entry |
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cait |
leave version number at XXX in updatedatabase |
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cait |
for testing your patch yourself, change the xxx to be the next number and change kohversion.pl (I think) accordingly |
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cait |
when starting your koha it will compare the number from kohaversion to the number in your database and start the update |
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* cait |
hopes she explained that right |
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maximep |
yes you did |
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maximep |
ok, then I will send a patch soon |
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maximep |
or maybe several patches |
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maximep |
just looked at that wiki page. You were a *lot* clearer than it lol |
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cait |
I tried :) |
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cait |
looked at it myself and decided I should try.., |
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cait |
what you can also do is find a nice easy patch to copy from - like a new syspref being added |
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cait |
to see which files have to be touched |
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* slef |
curses ISBD principles and all who sail in them. |
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jcamins |
slef: are they so bad as all that? |
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slef |
jcamins: yeah when people follow 95% of them. |
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slef |
they're just enough to cause trouble |
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jcamins |
Heh. |
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slef |
"Why haven't you converted these records correctly? We used ISBD punctuation rules." "Not on that one you didn't" "Oh" |
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cait |
lol |
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cait |
so give them a list to correct manually? |
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slef |
yeah... 5% of 6k is 300... |
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jcamins |
Pfft. |
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slef |
I'll give them a list. Doubt they'll correct them. |
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* slef |
leaves the import churning |
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wizzyrea |
does anybody know what the standard field for fines data is in SIP |
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wizzyrea |
it needs to be added to the output, apparently |
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wizzyrea |
(and yea, I know it puts fine data in the screen note - that's not the right place) |
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wizzyrea |
patron expiry, for the record, is in the wrong place as well. |
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wizzyrea |
(also in the screen note) |
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cait |
you mean the date? |
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cait |
and the fine amount? |
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wizzyrea |
yea |
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sekjal |
wizzyrea: do you mean fee paid messaging? |
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wizzyrea |
as an example |
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pastebot |
"wizzyrea" at 24.124.17.146 pasted "SIP response example" (1 line) at http://paste.koha-community.org/65 |
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wizzyrea |
that Patron owes $10.00 |
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wizzyrea |
there's supposedly a field for the $10 |
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wizzyrea |
so in envisionware |
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wizzyrea |
they have a rule you can make |
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wizzyrea |
fine owed equals |
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wizzyrea |
| greater than | less than |
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wizzyrea |
but that won't work |
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cait |
hm there is field with 10.00 in it |
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wizzyrea |
because the data isn't in the field EW is looking for |
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cait |
y|BLY|CQN|BV10.00|CC10| |
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wizzyrea |
cait++ |
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* wizzyrea |
missed that |
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* wizzyrea |
tries the rule again |
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wizzyrea |
i will laugh so. very. hard. if this works. |
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oleonard |
Happy weekend all |
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cait |
bye owen |
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cait |
wow, I managed to say bye to owen before he left! |
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* cait |
tries again |
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cait |
have a nice weekend oleonard |
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cait |
ok, now the world is back to normal :) |
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wizzyrea |
can I kiss you if this works, cait? |
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cait |
um |
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cait |
k? |
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* wizzyrea |
kisses cait |
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* cait |
blushes |
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* wizzyrea |
bounces and squees |
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wizzyrea |
you know that feeling, when someone gets huffy with you and you know you tested it, and it worked the last time |
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wizzyrea |
and you think that you did it wrong or something, but it turns out you didn't |
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rangi |
no you can go |
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wizzyrea |
and you were right all along? |
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rangi |
"IN YOUR FACE!!!" |
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wizzyrea |
yes. That. |
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rangi |
yep i know that well |
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rangi |
:) |
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cait |
of course |
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cait |
now you are showing up |
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wizzyrea |
thanks cait :) |
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cait |
when all the work is done :) |
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cait |
yvw liz :) |
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wizzyrea |
cait++ for her usual brilliance |
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cait |
hmpf |
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wizzyrea |
so, just in case you are wondering |
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wizzyrea |
for envisionware |
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wizzyrea |
http://screencast.com/t/yRm9nsmA |
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wizzyrea |
that's how you set up rules for patron expired, and block over x fines owed |
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rhcl_lita |
koha in the cloud mentioned @lita - twittag #libcloud |
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jcamins |
rhcl_lita: wave to Heather Moulaison for me. :) |
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rhcl_lita |
yea, ok. |
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jcamins |
Thanks. |
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jcamins |
Oh, Edward's the other speaker? |
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jcamins |
Wave to him, too. |
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rhcl_lita |
Huh, OK. |
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jcamins |
Thanks. :) |
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rhcl_lita |
they will know you by name presumably? |
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jcamins |
Yup. |
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cait |
wizzyrea++ :) |
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cait |
good night all! |
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jcamins |
Good night. |
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wizzyrea |
cait is sneaky |
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wizzyrea |
gnite :) |
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jcamins |
It's always exciting to discover that I know the speakers at conferences. :) |
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rhcl_lita |
u should be her |
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rhcl_lita |
here |
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jcamins |
I'm getting out of technology. Didn't you know that? :P |
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rhcl_lita |
well, no, I guess I didn't |
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* jcamins |
waits for the laughter to die down. ;) |
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rhcl_lita |
who knows, you might want to go meditate in a Buddhist monastary in nepal for a few years. It happens. |
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jcamins |
rhcl_lita: that does sound tempting... |
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rhcl_lita |
I hear the chow isn't that great. |
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jcamins |
rhcl_lita: yeah, but are you distracted by the thought of buying real estate? |
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rhcl_lita |
? non sequitur? |
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rhcl_lita |
session over, gotta move... |
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jcamins |
rhcl_lita: yeah, I just happen to be distracted by the thought of buying real estate. Enjoy the rest of LITA. :) |
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rhcl_lita |
jcamins: both presenters pleased to hear from you; returned greeting |
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jcamins |
rhcl_lita: thanks. :) |
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