IRC log for #koha, 2011-05-07

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06:13 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6320] Generate Next button doesn't generate next issue <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6320>
06:25 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6321] Add a 1/4 month frequency <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6321>
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07:29 rangi evening
07:35 fmarier hi rangi
07:37 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6294: {BIBLIONUMBER} parsing for SearchForTitleIn <[…]85573784f6eff5912>
07:38 rangi weird weather today eh
07:41 fmarier yeah it was as if wellington had no hills
07:43 jenkins_koha Starting build 242 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
07:44 fmarier so i just submitted an updated version of my Libravatar patch with a new ShowReviewerPhoto setting
07:45 fmarier i'm not sure about the db update part though
07:45 fmarier it seems like i had to modify a _lot_ of files to add that
07:45 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6298] Profile pictures in the OPAC next to review authors <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6298>
07:46 rangi to add a new syspref? yeah, .. and the the syspref files
07:47 rangi the plan is to change the installer, to only use the english syspref one, so you only have to modify one
07:49 rangi but we havent done that yet (the prefs are actually translated now in the .pref files, but the installer still looks for the language specific ones, its on the todo for 3.6)
07:49 rangi you did get all the files tho
07:49 rangi you can run
07:49 rangi perl xt/syspref.t
07:50 rangi that will tell you if you missed any
07:50 rangi !jenkins status
07:50 jenkins_koha status of all projects:
07:50 jenkins_koha Koha_3.2.x: last build: 23 (2 j 9 h ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.2.x/23/
07:50 jenkins_koha Koha_master(BUILDING: 7 mn 22 s and counting): last build: 241 (5 j 7 h ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/241/
07:51 rangi so jenkins lives on a french server
07:51 rangi hence the 5 j :)
07:52 fmarier :)
07:53 rangi <-- seen that?
07:54 rangi i figure you'd like it, it goes along with the decentralisation idea
08:06 fmarier that sounds good. it doesn't look like there's a lot to see yet though
08:12 rangi nope, looks like its just at the idea phase
08:19 fmarier does jenkins test patches that have been committed or the ones that have been proposed on the list?
08:20 rangi just ones committed
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08:21 rangi you are awake early druthb ... another go live?
08:26 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #242: SUCCESS in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/242/
08:26 jenkins_koha Ian Walls: Bug 6294: {BIBLIONUMBER} parsing for SearchForTitleIn
08:26 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6294 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , Add {BIBLIONUMBER} parsing support to SearchForTitleIn syspref
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08:32 TVM hello all!
08:32 rangi hi TVM
08:33 TVM when I am rebuilding zebra I am getting an error  " Index Record Control Number not found in attsets"
08:34 rangi are you running koha 3.2.5 or something close to that?
08:34 rangi its a warn, you can ignore it, nothing bad will happen and its fixed in later versions
08:35 TVM i m using 3.2.06
08:35 TVM 3.02.06
08:36 rangi yep, its just a warn, i think fixed in 3.2.7, definitely fixed in 3.4.0, but you can safely ignore it, its not an actual error, just a warn
08:37 TVM ok
08:38 rangi wow, here comes the rain
08:38 rangi @wunder wellington, nz
08:38 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0�C (8:00 PM NZST on May 07, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Rising).
08:40 druthb g'morning, rangi. :)
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08:46 TVM rangi: but my catalog searching is not working.I have added a marc record. and after that I searched for it . Then it returns 'No result Found'
08:47 rangi is that the only message you are getting when you run ?
08:47 rangi and zebrasrv is running eh?
08:47 TVM yes
08:48 rangi thats a new one for me then, because it certainly works in 3.2.6
08:48 rangi try running -x -b -v
08:49 rangi actually
08:49 rangi -x -b -v -r
08:51 TVM ok
08:51 TVM I had ran it
08:51 rangi that exact command, with those options exactly?
08:52 TVM -a option not needed??
08:52 rangi you cant run -a and -x
08:53 rangi so no, not -a for this test
08:54 TVM ok
08:57 TVM rangi: how can I run zebrasrv in my system. I thing it is not running
08:57 TVM in my system
08:58 rangi what distribution are you running? debian?
09:01 TVM debian2.3
09:01 rangi right, in that case look at the INSTALL.debian file
09:02 rangi section 6.2.1
09:17 TVM rangi: I am sorry. I am using debian6.0.  The system I installed koha is using debian 6.0
09:19 rangi yep, thats fine you still want to look at INSTALL.debian in the koha tarball
09:19 rangi and section 6.2.1
09:21 TVM ok. but where I will find this INSTALL.debian file
09:27 rangi in the koha tarball you downloaded and installed Koha from
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10:10 TVM rangi: I have already done all those things in section 6.2.1.
10:10 TVM zebrasrv is running
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13:06 * jcamins waves to manguse
13:07 * magnuse waves back
13:11 * jcamins seizes a large book, and considers what to bludgeon.
13:11 jcamins I just learned that record.abs is not so much a configuration file as a script in a single-purpose executable language.
13:12 jcamins I guess I shouldn't be surprised, they do use XSLT for DOM indexing, but I could swear there is no mention of this in the documentation.
13:15 magnuse a zebra config - what fun!
13:19 cait jcamins: you are very brave to go investigating there
13:19 cait and hi all :)
13:19 magnuse here be monsters
13:20 cait huh?
13:20 jcamins cait: foolish, I would've said.
13:20 magnuse cait:[…]here-be-monsters/
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13:31 cait jcamins: perhaps foolish and brave are not that far apart :)
13:31 hdl hi all
13:32 magnuse bonjour hdl
13:35 hdl jcamins: if you pass a marcrecord to a record.abs then you get the indexes strings ?
13:36 jcamins hdl: the zebraidx program is essentially an interpreter.
13:36 jcamins and "melm" means "exit on success."
13:36 hdl where have you read that ?
13:37 cait hi hdl
13:37 hdl hi cait
13:37 jcamins hdl: they don't say that anywhere in the documentation that I can find.
13:37 hdl Is it in the code then ?
13:37 jcamins However, I was running into a bug that can best be explained by treating record.abs as a script.
13:39 hdl jcamins: you raised my interest... Please tell me.
13:41 jcamins hdl: you may already have known this.
13:42 pastebot "jcamins" at pasted "hdl: may record.abs die a fiery death" (23 lines) at
13:44 hdl oh that... Yes. Indeeed. We had that kind of problem.
13:44 cait looks like something that should go on the wiki
13:45 hdl we made a patch on record.abs in order to index items.
13:46 hdl And yes record.abs Is a nightmare... But changing DOM indexing is also quite promising in terms of fun... There is no "any" index by default. you have to add that.
13:47 jcamins hdl: the "any index doesn't work the way everyone thinks it does with GRS-1, either.
13:48 jcamins And if we use xsltproc to compile our DOM configuration, it's easy enough to add a "match='*'" template.
13:48 hdl Well at least, it searches the indexed data
13:49 jcamins hdl: yes, but I am only certain that two people understand that.
13:49 hdl jcamins: I much more believe in Solr than doing overcomplex XSLT just to index stuff.
13:50 jcamins (probably more do, but the only two people who I *know* understand what "all any" does are me, and you, since you just told me you did;)
13:51 hdl count paul and gmcharlt and chris and chris_n too in I guess fredericd is also a good guess for that... That makes quite a lot ;)
13:51 magnuse jcamins: mind if i put what you pasted on the wiki for safe keeping?
13:51 jcamins magnuse: no, that's an excellent idea.
13:52 hdl (a kind of community of geeks working on the same stuff...)
13:53 hdl magnuse: don't hesitate to add what jcamins and I were talking of....
13:53 hdl any is gathering all the indexed elements. Not all the elements of the record.
13:53 jcamins Right.
13:53 hdl nor all the elements that have not been indexed.
13:54 hdl can be compared to all_fields in solr
13:56 magnuse[…]ng_Zebra_indexing
13:57 * jcamins thinks perhaps the title of that page should have been "Abandon hope, all ye who enter."
13:59 magnuse done ;-)
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13:59 magnuse \o
13:59 druthb o/
14:03 jcamins magnuse: much more honest.
14:03 jcamins Good morning, druthb.
14:04 druthb g'morning, jcamins!
14:04 magnuse jcamins: hehe
14:05 druthb jcamins++
14:06 cait jcamins++
14:09 hdl thanks magnuse.  not sure that just copy paste of irc conversations will make it more useable on the wiki.
14:10 magnuse hdl: feel free to improve on it! ;-)
14:11 hdl thanks magnuse
14:13 magnuse hdl: i'm not sure i understand what you were talking about well enough to give a better summary...
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14:35 magnuse how do you update translations in a normal (non dev) install? "translate install xx-YY", then "perl Makefile.PL --prev-install-file ...; make; make test; sudo make upgrade"?
14:45 cait hm
14:45 cait have you tried without make?
14:46 magnuse cait: i havn't erally tried anything, i was just wondering... ;-)
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14:47 * Oak waves
14:47 jcamins cait: weren't you going out somewhere?
14:48 cait I was
14:49 cait and there is something true about the people saying you should not buy groceries while hungry
14:49 cait ..
14:50 jcamins cait: uh-oh.
14:50 cait could be worse
14:50 magnuse sounds familiar...
14:50 cait hi Oak
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15:56 cait neighbours are building something :(
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18:30 * jcamins waves at pianohacker.
18:30 pianohacker Hallo jcamins
18:30 pianohacker How's your weekend going?
18:32 jcamins My weekend was... horribly unproductive.
18:33 jcamins I work Saturday-Wednesday, so it's over now.
18:34 jcamins Sadly, the paper I have to write? Still not written.
18:34 jcamins Are you done with finals yet?
18:40 jcamins Uh-oh. I think that must've been an undiplomatic question.
18:41 jcamins I have insulted pianohacker!
18:41 pianohacker Sorry, no, not at all :)
18:42 pianohacker Just a bit out of it, running on very little sleep
18:43 pianohacker I have a couple more finals, but they shouldn't be too bad, I fought the calculus demon today, and mostly won
18:43 jcamins pianohacker: I didn't actually think I'd insulted you. Just very punchy. Trying to focus on work while thinking about four papers (thankfully only one due this week), and worrying about the fact that I have another 8 months on my lease, but we're probably going to have to move sooner.
18:43 jcamins Congratulations!
18:43 pianohacker Thanks, we'll see what the final grade in that nasty course was
18:43 pianohacker What's up with the papers and lease?
18:43 jcamins Well, I'm taking one class this semester, and the final paper is due this coming week.
18:44 pianohacker What class is it?
18:44 jcamins I also have an incomplete hanging over me from last semester (bad idea! I should never have let myself be convinced to take an incomplete).
18:44 jcamins And I want to turn a paper I just presented into an article for publication, and I have a presentation at a national conference coming up in October.
18:45 pianohacker Wow. I complain about the tiny papers for my English class :)
18:45 pianohacker I think we have something like an incomplete here, if you withdraw after a deadline you get a W on your transcript
18:45 pianohacker The usual reason is "eh, it's better than an F"
18:46 jcamins "Imagining Eurasia" - the course is on Russian Eurasianism, and I'm writing about whether Bukharan Jews can be considered part of a pan-Eurasian "Jewish nation" (hint: no).
18:46 jcamins No, an incomplete is different. I'll probably get a B in the class. At NYU, professors encourage you to take incompletes rather than rush on your work.
18:47 jcamins Basically you don't get a report card for that semester, and then when you finish the final they go back, change your grade, and issue the report card.
18:47 jcamins In hindsight, I should have withdrawn.
18:47 jcamins Ah well. Hindsight.
18:48 jcamins The issue with the lease is that our apartment is *swarming* with roaches, to the extent that it's unlivable, and I don't think that we're going to be able to fix it.
18:48 jcamins (because the landlord isn't going to make the repairs that are necessary)
18:50 jcamins pianohacker: by the time you have as much practice writing papers as I do, you'll feel exactly the same about these sorts of papers as you do now about the tiny papers for your English class. ;)
18:51 pianohacker I looked at your description of your humanities course and my engineering brain recoiled in fear
18:51 pianohacker Sorry to hear about the roaches
18:52 jcamins Me too, because I would *love* to stay in this apartment until we live the city, other than the roaches.
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18:53 jcamins Ah well.
18:53 pianohacker I'm about to _start_ a lease. <crossed fingers>
18:54 pianohacker Hopefully no roaches, though they're not as common out here in the colorado desert
18:55 jcamins And I bet you're paying a quarter what we are, and getting twice as much space.
18:56 jcamins Colorado++
18:56 * jcamins daydreams about moving to Colorado a lot.
19:00 jcamins I've never been, but it _sounds_ great.
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21:08 druthb @later tell sekjal party game for our next staff meeting?  Or Kohacon?[…]al-life-with-git/
21:08 huginn druthb: The operation succeeded.
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21:56 druthb @seen Brooke
21:56 huginn druthb: Brooke was last seen in #koha 1 day, 0 hours, 24 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <Brooke> :)
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22:43 rangi @wunder wellington, nz
22:43 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0�C (10:00 AM NZST on May 08, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Rising).
23:02 * druthb waves to rangi
23:02 rangi heya druthb
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23:16 * Oak waves
23:24 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6298] Profile pictures in the OPAC next to review authors <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6298>
23:44 * druthb gets that stubborn set to her face.    It's a dangerous look.
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