Time  Nick         Message
23:44 * druthb     gets that stubborn set to her face.    It's a dangerous look.
23:24 huginn       New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6298] Profile pictures in the OPAC next to review authors <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6298>
23:16 * Oak        waves
23:02 rangi        heya druthb
23:02 * druthb     waves to rangi
22:43 huginn       rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0�C (10:00 AM NZST on May 08, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Rising).
22:43 rangi        @wunder wellington, nz
21:56 huginn       druthb: Brooke was last seen in #koha 1 day, 0 hours, 24 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <Brooke> :)
21:56 druthb       @seen Brooke
21:08 huginn       druthb: The operation succeeded.
21:08 druthb       @later tell sekjal party game for our next staff meeting?  Or Kohacon?  http://blog.ksplice.com/2011/05/improving-your-social-life-with-git/
19:00 jcamins      I've never been, but it _sounds_ great.
18:56 * jcamins    daydreams about moving to Colorado a lot.
18:56 jcamins      Colorado++
18:55 jcamins      And I bet you're paying a quarter what we are, and getting twice as much space.
18:54 pianohacker  Hopefully no roaches, though they're not as common out here in the colorado desert
18:53 pianohacker  I'm about to _start_ a lease. <crossed fingers>
18:53 jcamins      Ah well.
18:52 jcamins      Me too, because I would *love* to stay in this apartment until we live the city, other than the roaches.
18:51 pianohacker  Sorry to hear about the roaches
18:51 pianohacker  I looked at your description of your humanities course and my engineering brain recoiled in fear
18:50 jcamins      pianohacker: by the time you have as much practice writing papers as I do, you'll feel exactly the same about these sorts of papers as you do now about the tiny papers for your English class. ;)
18:48 jcamins      (because the landlord isn't going to make the repairs that are necessary)
18:48 jcamins      The issue with the lease is that our apartment is *swarming* with roaches, to the extent that it's unlivable, and I don't think that we're going to be able to fix it.
18:47 jcamins      Ah well. Hindsight.
18:47 jcamins      In hindsight, I should have withdrawn.
18:47 jcamins      Basically you don't get a report card for that semester, and then when you finish the final they go back, change your grade, and issue the report card.
18:46 jcamins      No, an incomplete is different. I'll probably get a B in the class. At NYU, professors encourage you to take incompletes rather than rush on your work.
18:46 jcamins      "Imagining Eurasia" - the course is on Russian Eurasianism, and I'm writing about whether Bukharan Jews can be considered part of a pan-Eurasian "Jewish nation" (hint: no).
18:45 pianohacker  The usual reason is "eh, it's better than an F"
18:45 pianohacker  I think we have something like an incomplete here, if you withdraw after a deadline you get a W on your transcript
18:45 pianohacker  Wow. I complain about the tiny papers for my English class :)
18:44 jcamins      And I want to turn a paper I just presented into an article for publication, and I have a presentation at a national conference coming up in October.
18:44 jcamins      I also have an incomplete hanging over me from last semester (bad idea! I should never have let myself be convinced to take an incomplete).
18:44 pianohacker  What class is it?
18:43 jcamins      Well, I'm taking one class this semester, and the final paper is due this coming week.
18:43 pianohacker  What's up with the papers and lease?
18:43 pianohacker  Thanks, we'll see what the final grade in that nasty course was
18:43 jcamins      Congratulations!
18:43 jcamins      pianohacker: I didn't actually think I'd insulted you. Just very punchy. Trying to focus on work while thinking about four papers (thankfully only one due this week), and worrying about the fact that I have another 8 months on my lease, but we're probably going to have to move sooner.
18:43 pianohacker  I have a couple more finals, but they shouldn't be too bad, I fought the calculus demon today, and mostly won
18:42 pianohacker  Just a bit out of it, running on very little sleep
18:41 pianohacker  Sorry, no, not at all :)
18:41 jcamins      I have insulted pianohacker!
18:40 jcamins      Uh-oh. I think that must've been an undiplomatic question.
18:34 jcamins      Are you done with finals yet?
18:34 jcamins      Sadly, the paper I have to write? Still not written.
18:33 jcamins      I work Saturday-Wednesday, so it's over now.
18:32 jcamins      My weekend was... horribly unproductive.
18:30 pianohacker  How's your weekend going?
18:30 pianohacker  Hallo jcamins
18:30 * jcamins    waves at pianohacker.
15:56 cait         neighbours are building something :(
15:56 * magnuse    takes the dogs for a walk
14:50 cait         hi Oak
14:50 magnuse      sounds familiar...
14:50 cait         could be worse
14:50 jcamins      cait: uh-oh.
14:49 cait         ..
14:49 cait         and there is something true about the people saying you should not buy groceries while hungry
14:48 cait         I was
14:47 jcamins      cait: weren't you going out somewhere?
14:47 * Oak        waves
14:46 magnuse      cait: i havn't erally tried anything, i was just wondering... ;-)
14:45 cait         have you tried without make?
14:45 cait         hm
14:35 magnuse      how do you update translations in a normal (non dev) install? "translate install xx-YY", then "perl Makefile.PL --prev-install-file ...; make; make test; sudo make upgrade"?
14:13 magnuse      hdl: i'm not sure i understand what you were talking about well enough to give a better summary...
14:11 hdl          thanks magnuse
14:10 magnuse      hdl: feel free to improve on it! ;-)
14:09 hdl          thanks magnuse.  not sure that just copy paste of irc conversations will make it more useable on the wiki.
14:06 cait         jcamins++
14:05 druthb       jcamins++
14:04 magnuse      jcamins: hehe
14:04 druthb       g'morning, jcamins!
14:03 jcamins      Good morning, druthb.
14:03 jcamins      magnuse: much more honest.
13:59 druthb       o/
13:59 magnuse      \o
13:59 magnuse      done ;-)
13:57 * jcamins    thinks perhaps the title of that page should have been "Abandon hope, all ye who enter."
13:56 magnuse      http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Understanding_Zebra_indexing
13:54 hdl          can be compared to all_fields in solr
13:53 hdl          nor all the elements that have not been indexed.
13:53 jcamins      Right.
13:53 hdl          any is gathering all the indexed elements. Not all the elements of the record.
13:53 hdl          magnuse: don't hesitate to add what jcamins and I were talking of....
13:52 hdl          (a kind of community of geeks working on the same stuff...)
13:51 jcamins      magnuse: no, that's an excellent idea.
13:51 magnuse      jcamins: mind if i put what you pasted on the wiki for safe keeping?
13:51 hdl          count paul and gmcharlt and chris and chris_n too in I guess fredericd is also a good guess for that... That makes quite a lot ;)
13:50 jcamins      (probably more do, but the only two people who I *know* understand what "all any" does are me, and you, since you just told me you did;)
13:49 hdl          jcamins: I much more believe in Solr than doing overcomplex XSLT just to index stuff.
13:49 jcamins      hdl: yes, but I am only certain that two people understand that.
13:48 hdl          Well at least, it searches the indexed data
13:48 jcamins      And if we use xsltproc to compile our DOM configuration, it's easy enough to add a "match='*'" template.
13:47 jcamins      hdl: the "any index doesn't work the way everyone thinks it does with GRS-1, either.
13:46 hdl          And yes record.abs Is a nightmare... But changing DOM indexing is also quite promising in terms of fun... There is no "any" index by default. you have to add that.
13:45 hdl          we made a patch on record.abs in order to index items.
13:44 cait         looks like something that should go on the wiki
13:44 hdl          oh that... Yes. Indeeed. We had that kind of problem.
13:42 pastebot     "jcamins" at 208.120.0.116 pasted "hdl: may record.abs die a fiery death" (23 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/39
13:41 jcamins      hdl: you may already have known this.
13:39 hdl          jcamins: you raised my interest... Please tell me.
13:37 jcamins      However, I was running into a bug that can best be explained by treating record.abs as a script.
13:37 hdl          Is it in the code then ?
13:37 jcamins      hdl: they don't say that anywhere in the documentation that I can find.
13:37 hdl          hi cait
13:37 cait         hi hdl
13:36 hdl          where have you read that ?
13:36 jcamins      and "melm" means "exit on success."
13:36 jcamins      hdl: the zebraidx program is essentially an interpreter.
13:35 hdl          jcamins: if you pass a marcrecord to a record.abs then you get the indexes strings ?
13:32 magnuse      bonjour hdl
13:31 hdl          hi all
13:31 cait         jcamins: perhaps foolish and brave are not that far apart :)
13:20 magnuse      cait: http://www.vqronline.org/articles/2005/winter/genoways-here-be-monsters/
13:20 jcamins      cait: foolish, I would've said.
13:20 cait         huh?
13:19 magnuse      here be monsters
13:19 cait         and hi all :)
13:19 cait         jcamins: you are very brave to go investigating there
13:15 magnuse      a zebra config - what fun!
13:12 jcamins      I guess I shouldn't be surprised, they do use XSLT for DOM indexing, but I could swear there is no mention of this in the documentation.
13:11 jcamins      I just learned that record.abs is not so much a configuration file as a script in a single-purpose executable language.
13:11 * jcamins    seizes a large book, and considers what to bludgeon.
13:07 * magnuse    waves back
13:06 * jcamins    waves to manguse
10:10 TVM          zebrasrv is running
10:10 TVM          rangi: I have already done all those things in section 6.2.1.
09:50 cait         hi #koha
09:27 rangi        in the koha tarball you downloaded and installed Koha from
09:21 TVM          ok. but where I will find this INSTALL.debian file
09:19 rangi        and section 6.2.1
09:19 rangi        yep, thats fine you still want to look at INSTALL.debian in the koha tarball
09:17 TVM          rangi: I am sorry. I am using debian6.0.  The system I installed koha is using debian 6.0
09:02 rangi        section 6.2.1
09:01 rangi        right, in that case look at the INSTALL.debian file
09:01 TVM          debian2.3
08:58 rangi        what distribution are you running? debian?
08:57 TVM          in my system
08:57 TVM          rangi: how can I run zebrasrv in my system. I thing it is not running
08:54 TVM          ok
08:53 rangi        so no, not -a for this test
08:52 rangi        you cant run -a and -x
08:52 TVM          -a option not needed??
08:51 rangi        that exact command, with those options exactly?
08:51 TVM          I had ran it
08:51 TVM          ok
08:49 rangi        rebuild_zebra.pl -x -b -v -r
08:49 rangi        actually
08:48 rangi        try running rebuild_zebra.pl -x -b -v
08:48 rangi        thats a new one for me then, because it certainly works in 3.2.6
08:47 TVM          yes
08:47 rangi        and zebrasrv is running eh?
08:47 rangi        is that the only message you are getting when you run rebuild_zebra.pl ?
08:46 TVM          rangi: but my catalog searching is not working.I have added a marc record. and after that I searched for it . Then it returns 'No result Found'
08:40 druthb       g'morning, rangi. :)
08:38 huginn       rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0�C (8:00 PM NZST on May 07, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Rising).
08:38 rangi        @wunder wellington, nz
08:38 rangi        wow, here comes the rain
08:37 TVM          ok
08:36 rangi        yep, its just a warn, i think fixed in 3.2.7, definitely fixed in 3.4.0, but you can safely ignore it, its not an actual error, just a warn
08:35 TVM          3.02.06
08:35 TVM          i m using 3.2.06
08:34 rangi        its a warn, you can ignore it, nothing bad will happen and its fixed in later versions
08:34 rangi        are you running koha 3.2.5 or something close to that?
08:33 TVM          when I am rebuilding zebra I am getting an error  " Index Record Control Number not found in attsets"
08:32 rangi        hi TVM
08:32 TVM          hello all!
08:26 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6294 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , Add {BIBLIONUMBER} parsing support to SearchForTitleIn syspref
08:26 jenkins_koha Ian Walls: Bug 6294: {BIBLIONUMBER} parsing for SearchForTitleIn
08:26 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #242: SUCCESS in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/242/
08:21 rangi        you are awake early druthb ... another go live?
08:20 rangi        just ones committed
08:19 fmarier      does jenkins test patches that have been committed or the ones that have been proposed on the list?
08:12 rangi        nope, looks like its just at the idea phase
08:06 fmarier      that sounds good. it doesn't look like there's a lot to see yet though
07:54 rangi        i figure you'd like it, it goes along with the decentralisation idea
07:53 rangi        http://mediagoblin.org/ <-- seen that?
07:52 fmarier      :)
07:51 rangi        hence the 5 j :)
07:51 rangi        so jenkins lives on a french server
07:50 jenkins_koha Koha_master(BUILDING: 7 mn 22 s and counting): last build: 241 (5 j 7 h ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/241/
07:50 jenkins_koha Koha_3.2.x: last build: 23 (2 j 9 h ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.2.x/23/
07:50 jenkins_koha status of all projects:
07:50 rangi        !jenkins status
07:50 rangi        that will tell you if you missed any
07:49 rangi        perl xt/syspref.t
07:49 rangi        you can run
07:49 rangi        you did get all the files tho
07:49 rangi        but we havent done that yet (the prefs are actually translated now in the .pref files, but the installer still looks for the language specific ones, its on the todo for 3.6)
07:47 rangi        the plan is to change the installer, to only use the english syspref one, so you only have to modify one
07:46 rangi        to add a new syspref? yeah, updatedatabase.pl .. and the the syspref files
07:45 huginn       New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6298] Profile pictures in the OPAC next to review authors <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6298>
07:45 fmarier      it seems like i had to modify a _lot_ of files to add that
07:45 fmarier      i'm not sure about the db update part though
07:44 fmarier      so i just submitted an updated version of my Libravatar patch with a new ShowReviewerPhoto setting
07:43 jenkins_koha Starting build 242 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
07:41 fmarier      yeah it was as if wellington had no hills
07:38 rangi        weird weather today eh
07:37 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6294: {BIBLIONUMBER} parsing for SearchForTitleIn <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e064aba47e2047df9feeac985573784f6eff5912>
07:35 fmarier      hi rangi
07:29 rangi        evening
06:25 huginn       New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6321] Add a 1/4 month frequency <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6321>
06:13 huginn       New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6320] Generate Next button doesn't generate next issue <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6320>
00:55 druthb       o/