IRC log for #koha, 2011-05-06

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00:05 tcohen wunder cordoba, argentina
00:05 tcohen :D
00:06 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
00:06 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 16.0�C (8:00 PM ART on May 05, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
00:09 eythian <-- hah, cool
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01:18 druthb o/
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02:02 tcohen its an old one, but I cant help sharing:
02:03 rangi heh
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02:42 Brooke kia ora!
02:43 rangi hi Brooke
02:43 Brooke :)
02:51 Brooke
02:52 rangi heh
02:52 rangi i love colbert
02:52 Brooke me too
02:52 Brooke I was heartbroken for missing the rallies for Koha
02:53 Brooke[…]anity_and/or_Fear
02:54 Brooke it was like everyone set everything for Samhain this year.
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03:33 AmitG heya chris
03:39 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6298] Profile pictures in the OPAC next to review authors <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6298>
03:55 eythian wahanui: lock the target is <reply>bait the line
03:55 wahanui OK, eythian.
03:55 eythian wahanui: spread the net is <reply>then you catch the man
03:55 wahanui OK, eythian.
03:58 eythian wahanui: imhotep is invisible
03:58 wahanui OK, eythian.
04:06 eythian wahanui: maths
04:06 wahanui eythian: excuse me?
04:06 eythian wahanui: maths is Mathematical Anti-Telharsic Harfatum Septomin.
04:06 wahanui OK, eythian.
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04:13 eythian wahanui: germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world.
04:13 wahanui eythian: i'm not following you...
04:13 eythian wahanui: germs is <replyt>originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world.
04:13 wahanui OK, eythian.
04:14 eythian no wahanui, germs is <reply>germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world.
04:14 wahanui okay, eythian.
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05:23 ibeardslee To finish the week ..
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06:28 alex_a bonjour #koha
06:28 magnuse bonjour alex_a
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06:37 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6314] UNIMARC OPAC XSL improvements <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6314>
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07:11 scl rangi, ping
07:11 AmitG heya scl
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07:12 indradg AmitG, morning
07:14 AmitG heya indradg
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07:27 AmitG heya hdl, sophie_m, paul_p
07:27 sophie_m hello
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07:28 snail evening
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07:32 knr hi
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07:35 knr when i had run the command  ./ -b -r -a  I got the following error message
07:35 knr Can't locate C4/ in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at ./ line 6. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at ./ line 6.
07:36 knr please help me to rectify this problem...
07:37 AmitG heya knr
07:37 indradg I've an insanely stupid query (possibly from the fact that I've not slept in like last 48 hours)... what does one need to do to get zebra running when using the koha*.deb files (3.2.7)?
07:37 AmitG kr: export your koha path
07:38 indradg the regular tarball install is working peachy... but somehow the .deb installation is not
07:38 indradg what could I be missing?
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08:13 Cybermon hi all
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08:13 Cybermon anyone know any software for ghost image of ubuntu ?
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08:38 indradg Cybermon, remastersys may do the job for you, or clonezilla... however YMMV
08:39 Cybermon thanks
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08:41 indradg Cybermon, yw
08:42 Cybermon yw ?
08:43 indradg Cybermon, you are welcome
08:43 Cybermon koay
08:43 Cybermon okay
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09:00 knr when I am rebuilding zebra getting the follwing output.
09:00 knr 14:23:23-06/05 zebraidx(2800) [warn] zebra_lock_create fail fname=/var/lock/koha/zebradb/authorities/norm..LCK [No such file or directory] 14:23:23-06/05 zebraidx(2800) [warn] zebra_lock_create fail fname=/var/lock/koha/zebra​db/authorities/shadow..LCK [No such file or directory] 14:23:23-06/05 zebraidx(2800) [fatal] Could not select database authorities errCo
09:04 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6308] Show number of comments on the "Comments" tab in OPAC <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6308>
09:21 knr Is any one know how to rectify the above error?
09:22 knr 14:23:23-06/05 zebraidx(2800) [warn] zebra_lock_create fail fname=/var/lock/koha/zebradb/authorities/norm..LCK [No such file or directory] 14:23:23-06/05 zebraidx(2800) [warn] zebra_lock_create fail fname=/var/lock/koha/zebra​db/authorities/shadow..LCK [No such file or directory] 14:23:23-06/05 zebraidx(2800)
09:22 knr [fatal] Could not select database authorities errCode=109
09:26 magnuse knr: could be a problem with permissions and ownership of files
09:27 magnuse are you running rebuild_zebra as the same user that owns the files in /var/lock/koha ?
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09:33 knr magnuse: yes
09:34 magnuse hm, not sure then
09:38 knr my /var/lock/koha/ folder is empty. No files in it
09:39 magnuse ah, that's definitely a problem
09:39 magnuse did you say you used the packages?
09:39 knr koha 3.02.06
09:40 magnuse do you use the "sudo apt-get install koha" method?
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09:41 knr no. I installed it from debian
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09:48 knr shall I use "sudo apt-get install koha" to  install it?
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10:02 magnuse knr: i don't have much experience with the packages, but i think so
10:02 magnuse[…]tep:_Install_Koha
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10:16 knr <magnuse>: Did you tried this method for installing koha? Is it works fine??
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10:27 druthb o/
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12:12 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6315] depreciation warnings in C4::Serials in new perls <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6315>
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12:26 conan good morning all
12:31 kf hi conan :)
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13:07 magnuse o/
13:18 kf have a nice weekend all!
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13:22 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 3238] VirtualShelves are editable by anyone who is not logged in <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3238>
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13:29 * druthb waves to talljoy.
13:30 gmcharlt @quote random
13:30 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #60: "<owen> My 9-month-old may not be walking yet, but she's got great bib control." (added by gmcharlt at 05:31 PM, February 19, 2010)
13:31 druthb @quote random
13:31 huginn druthb: Quote #16: "< wizzyrea> i mean, the point of american bacon is to erm, use the belly of the hog (I think)" (added by chris at 09:37 PM, July 17, 2009)
13:31 magnuse @quote random
13:31 huginn magnuse: Quote #121: "mtj> friends don't let librarians spec bib formats" (added by chris at 08:18 PM, March 24, 2011)
13:31 magnuse hehe
13:33 * druthb waves to magnuse.
13:34 magnuse \o/
13:35 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
13:35 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 17.0�C (10:00 AM ART on May 06, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Rising).
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13:42 magnuse @wunder boo
13:42 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 10.0�C (3:20 PM CEST on May 06, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
13:43 magnuse now re're talking
13:43 magnuse s/re're/we're/
13:45 tcohen @wunder you're kiddin
13:45 huginn tcohen: Error: No such location could be found.
13:55 talljoy Hi druthb!
13:55 druthb :D
13:59 druthb @karma talljoy
13:59 huginn druthb: talljoy has neutral karma.
13:59 druthb =-O
13:59 druthb talljoy++
14:00 gmcharlt @wunder 32605
14:00 huginn gmcharlt: Error: timed out
14:00 gmcharlt it's the end of weather!
14:00 druthb @wunder 20852
14:00 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Potomac Woods, Rockville, Maryland is 16.6�C (10:03 AM EDT on May 06, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016.1 hPa (Steady).
14:01 gmcharlt @wunder 32605
14:01 huginn gmcharlt: The current temperature in Central Gainesville, Gainesville, Florida is 19.1�C (10:03 AM EDT on May 06, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016.5 hPa (Rising).
14:01 talljoy oooh, karma.  Thanks druthb!
14:01 wizzyrea @wunder 66047
14:01 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is 13.4�C (9:04 AM CDT on May 06, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Rising).
14:01 talljoy @wunder 76109
14:01 huginn talljoy: The current temperature in Palomino Estates, Benbrook, Texas is 17.9�C (9:04 AM CDT on May 06, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1016.8 hPa (Steady).
14:01 druthb I suspect as more folks figure out how awesome you are, talljoy, you'll be rollin' in the good karma.
14:02 wizzyrea :)
14:02 druthb morning, wizzyrea!
14:02 wizzyrea mornin :)
14:02 talljoy :-[
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14:20 brendan_ @wunder 93109
14:20 huginn brendan_: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 12.6�C (7:23 AM PDT on May 06, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 98%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013.4 hPa (Steady).
14:21 moodaepo @wunder 56001
14:21 huginn moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is 13.6�C (9:24 AM CDT on May 06, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010.0 hPa (Steady).
14:23 tcohen fredericd, hi. Is there any documentation on how SQL translations are maintained?
14:33 tcohen devs: is it possible to do something like:
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14:34 tcohen git copy dir mydir ?
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15:32 rhcl ping gmcharlt
15:32 gmcharlt rhcl: pong
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15:44 Oak \o
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15:47 mib_42nk84 hi
15:47 mib_42nk84 good afternoon
15:49 mib_42nk84 how i can delete "lenguague" from  opac advanced search
15:50 mib_42nk84 hi?
15:50 * wahanui waves
15:50 tcohen mib_42nk84: you mean, disable a language in the opac interface?
15:50 mib_42nk84 yeap
15:50 mib_42nk84 css?
15:50 mib_42nk84 please
15:50 tcohen in the staff interface, got to the sysprefs
15:51 mib_42nk84 yes
15:51 mib_42nk84 i nedd OPACUserCSS
15:52 tcohen no, sorry kind of busy
15:52 tcohen minute
15:52 mib_42nk84 ok
15:52 tcohen I18N/L10N section
15:52 tcohen the variable, opaclanguages
15:52 tcohen controls the available languages
15:53 mib_42nk84 no,
15:53 tcohen no, it doesn't, ok
15:53 tcohen no clue then
15:54 tcohen can you elaborate on what do u need to do?
15:54 mib_42nk84 i need delete from opac advanced search.
15:54 mib_42nk84 in order not to search by language
15:54 tcohen oh, ·search by language"
15:54 mib_42nk84 YEAP
15:54 mib_42nk84 yeap
15:54 mib_42nk84 i need deete
15:55 mib_42nk84 i need to remove
15:56 mib_42nk84 tcohen i need to remove
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15:58 tcohen mib_42nk84: i'm not a css guru, but am right now reading the template source code
15:58 tcohen to find a way to HIDE it
15:58 tcohen (by configuration)
15:58 mib_42nk84 OPACUserCSS
15:59 tcohen by configuration -> OPACUserCSS
15:59 tcohen we need to know "what" to hide
16:00 mib_42nk84 yeaaap
16:00 mib_42nk84 example #subtypes { display : none;}"
16:00 tcohen mib_42nk84: wait a minute
16:01 mib_42nk84 thanks
16:01 tcohen you'll need to edit the templates
16:01 tcohen as there isn't a way to identify that fieldset as-is
16:02 mib_42nk84 :s
16:02 mib_42nk84 how?
16:03 tcohen i think you cannot do it by configuration
16:03 tcohen just delete that <fieldset> block in the template
16:04 mib_42nk84 how?
16:04 mib_42nk84 where?
16:05 tcohen are you an IT guy or a librarian?
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16:11 rhcl disregarding the context, does anyone see a problem with the syntax of the following line...
16:12 wizzyrea mib_42nk84: there's a way to do that with jquery
16:12 wizzyrea give me a sec and I'll work it out for you
16:12 wizzyrea jquery library?
16:12 wahanui jquery library is found at[…]ki/JQuery_Library
16:12 mib_42nk84 ok, thanks
16:13 wizzyrea mib_42nk84: right?
16:13 rhcl $kdbh = mysql_connect( $koha["host"], $koha["username'], $koha["password"]) or die("unable to connect");
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16:14 wizzyrea i.e. that's the part you want to remove?
16:14 mib_42nk84 yes
16:14 mib_42nk84 :)
16:14 wizzyrea kk :)
16:14 mib_42nk84 yes
16:14 mib_42nk84 yes
16:14 mib_42nk84 :)
16:15 mib_42nk84 how i do?
16:15 wizzyrea sec :(
16:15 wizzyrea :)
16:19 mib_42nk84 ok
16:19 mib_42nk84 :)
16:19 wizzyrea well, a few minutes maybe ^.^ the construction of the advanced page isn't particularly amenable to this kind of manipulation
16:20 wizzyrea but it is totally doable
16:21 mib_42nk84 ;)
16:21 druthb wizzyrea == jquery_goddess.
16:21 wizzyrea woot, got it
16:22 pastebot "wizzyrea" at pasted "Jquery to hide the language selector on the advanced search page" (5 lines) at
16:22 wizzyrea put this in your OPACuserJS syspref
16:22 druthb wizzyrea++
16:22 mib_42nk84 :)
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16:23 wizzyrea hi scl
16:23 scl hi all
16:23 scl wizzyrea, hi :) lemme change my nick fast
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16:23 wizzyrea :D hi
16:24 rhcl is "expiry" a valid field in the koha database?
16:25 pastebot "wizzyrea" at pasted "This is a little better, actually, as it limits hiding that fieldset to the advanced search page" (5 lines) at
16:25 wizzyrea expiry in context of what? patrons?
16:25 wizzyrea I think that stuff is calculated on the fly, but I'm not an expert on that
16:26 druthb borrowers.dateexpiry is the date the borrower's privileges will expire.
16:26 coryj There is a dateexpiry
16:27 wizzyrea see, not an expert :)
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16:29 mib_42nk84 wizzyrea thnaks it wok
16:29 wizzyrea :D you're welcome
16:30 wizzyrea and I'm adding your request to the jquery library on the wiki ;)
16:30 coryj bimport has an expiry column
16:31 jwagner If you don't actively set an expiration date on a patron record, it will calculate it when you create the patron, based on the enrollment period in the patron category policy.
16:31 druthb wizzyrea++ #sharing her genius with the rest of us.
16:31 mib_42nk84 ;)
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16:31 jwagner wizzyrea, just saw your "later" -- I've packaged up & sent off my slides, don't yet have a URL for them.
16:31 druthb @karma wizzyrea
16:31 huginn druthb: Karma for "wizzyrea" has been increased 171 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 171.
16:31 druthb @karma
16:31 huginn druthb: Highest karma: "rangi" (309), "oleonard" (259), and "gmcharlt" (253).  Lowest karma: "<!" (-105), "failed" (-54), and "-" (-35).  You (druthb) are ranked 8 out of 1434.
16:32 druthb hm.
16:32 wizzyrea cool ty jwagner :)
16:32 druthb @karma druthb
16:32 huginn druthb: Karma for "druthb" has been increased 93 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 93.
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16:32 wizzyrea nobody will ever catch rangi and owen
16:32 druthb @karma sekjal
16:32 huginn druthb: Karma for "sekjal" has been increased 92 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 91.
16:32 * druthb does a little dance.
16:32 wizzyrea ohsnap
16:34 druthb I think gmcharlt did a karma merge for rangi; on Monday, oleonard was ahead of him by a few.
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16:51 rhcl hot dange, we are pretty smart!
16:52 rhcl wizzyrea: we finally got libki working. Lemme know if you wanna talk about it.
16:52 rhcl we had to mod the code somewhat
16:52 wizzyrea I do, I so do.
16:52 wizzyrea but perhaps not today :) Monday?
16:53 rhcl sure
16:53 NCAR_Michael Hello Kohabrains! I've some inquiries to toss into your midst.
16:53 wizzyrea shoot
16:54 NCAR_Michael okay, so all of our patrons are employees of the larger org (UCAR)
16:54 NCAR_Michael each month UCAR has some number of new hires
16:54 NCAR_Michael HR has a list.  with Unicorn, we had somehow figured out a way
16:55 NCAR_Michael for HR to send that list of new hires directly to the Unicorn system
16:55 NCAR_Michael which then translated them into patron records.
16:55 NCAR_Michael magic
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16:55 wizzyrea what does the list look like?
16:55 NCAR_Michael i wonder if we could do that with Koha
16:56 wizzyrea it's probably possible, there's a bulk patron import in koha. It would be where send = upload the CSV, but still pretty magic
16:56 NCAR_Michael good question. which format would be ideal for Koha?
16:57 wizzyrea on the bulk patron import page there's a link to the csv the import expects
16:57 wizzyrea 1s, it's probably in the manual
16:57 NCAR_Michael okay.  i'll take a look.  i suppose i'll just have to accept this as a monthly activity for me to take care of.
16:58 NCAR_Michael always trying to find ways around doing any actual work around here...
16:58 wizzyrea[…]#createpatronfile
16:58 wizzyrea :) that kind of laziness is good, I think
16:58 wizzyrea ;)
16:58 NCAR_Michael sweet.  gracias, wizzyreabrain.
16:59 NCAR_Michael signing off...
16:59 wahanui hmmm... signing off is a great idea!
16:59 wizzyrea later :)
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17:10 pastebot "nengard" at pasted "need a way to combine these to find the info for items that are marked long overdue lost" (19 lines) at
17:11 nengard looking for some query help on the above
17:11 nengard if anyone has an idea i'd love to hear it
17:11 nengard the top report needs the second integrated in it to find the borrower who had the book before it was marked long overdue lost
17:15 indradg gmcharlt, around? the linker script didn't do the trick :(
17:16 gmcharlt indradg: could you send me a sample export of a couple bibs and the authorities that you were expecting them to be linked to?
17:16 indradg gmcharlt, ok... working on it
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17:25 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6319] Provide language filter selection in adv an id inside a div <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6319>
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18:25 rhcl coryj: thanks for comment on the database field above; it helped.
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18:26 * f3ew pokes indradg
18:26 f3ew PM?
18:26 indradg f3ew, sure
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19:10 wizzyrea any of you big brains familiar with isohybrid?
19:10 wizzyrea (like, where you would get it?)
19:10 wizzyrea my google fu is failing
19:11 wizzyrea OH! never mind, I found it
19:11 wizzyrea :D
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19:21 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5199] Renewals do not add branchcode to statistics table <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5199>
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19:32 wizzyrea hi snail
19:32 snail mōrena koutou
19:44 rangi ata marie
19:49 sekjal hey, #koha, just a quick message from your QA manager:  I'll be moving house for the next couple days, but will be advancing items in the SIGNED_OFF state in BZ to either Passed QA or Failed QA as I can on Monday and Tuesday.  Lots of great stuff in the queue!
19:49 rangi yay! i see one just hit passed qa :)
19:50 sekjal rangi:  figured I'd push that one, since I'm intimately familiar with it, and testing proved very easy
19:50 rangi yep
19:50 sekjal several of the others look pretty quick to test, as well
19:50 sekjal some of them, a little more in-depth
19:51 rangi yep
19:51 rangi ill push that one to master this evening
19:52 rangi i have a 4 year old on me at the moment
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20:04 * magnuse pictures rangi as a climbing-toy
20:04 rangi pretty much :)
20:04 magnuse :-)
20:07 rhcl added a libki branch to github, for those that care.
20:07 rangi cool rhcl
20:08 rangi okk time to feed the animals^w children
20:08 rangi bbl
20:08 wizzyrea :D
20:08 magnuse hehe
20:08 rhcl no no! don't feed children to the animals!
20:09 gmcharlt rhcl++
20:09 magnuse rhcl: what are you doing with libki? i know the biggest public library here in norway is starting to use that too
20:11 rhcl Well, we are currently just re-evaluating it. We looked at it about 12-18 months ago, and thought it had great potential, and it worked very well for the things it did.
20:12 rhcl But we felt it needed more features before we could actually use it. So Kyle started doing some more work on it, and he was doing a complete re-write using Cake php insead of ??
20:12 rhcl So he's done some of that work, and we've just set up a new (test) libki server and a single test client to reevaluate the system
20:13 rhcl We found a few bugs, and managed to fix those, so have setup the github for the changes we did.
20:14 magnuse very cool! i'll give the norwegian people a hint about it ;-)
20:14 rhcl I think it's an excellent system, and it works very well w/ free operating systems--our server is Ubuntu and the clients are Mint 10
20:15 magnuse yeah, they will be using some kind of linux for the clients
20:15 sekjal rhcl++
20:15 magnuse rhcl++ # yup
20:15 rhcl I like the fact that the sysadmins have complete control over the OS and the apps, and ubuntu and derivatives using the gnome-manager have great customizations possible.
20:16 wizzyrea and your patrons don't seem to mind?
20:16 wizzyrea that's always the concern expressed here, that patrons will get mad
20:16 rhcl we don't give them a choice, and they don't seem to notice
20:16 rhcl :)
20:16 magnuse hehe
20:17 rhcl That's the thing...with Ubuntu/Mint et al you have complete control over the apps, and the only thing that seems to be a problem ever is Active X web sites.
20:17 mib_42nk84 a
20:17 wizzyrea aja
20:17 wizzyrea aha
20:18 rhcl Those, admittedly, we just can't simply do anything about, but there aren't that many that are really important anymore. Notably OverDrive uses Active X so it's out.
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20:23 wizzyrea o no, you lost overdrive
20:23 wizzyrea pity.
20:23 wizzyrea not.
20:23 rhcl I'd like to lose the D* thing.
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20:33 druthb o/
20:45 magnuse \o
20:47 magnuse g'night #koha
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20:47 rhcl later magnuse
20:54 sekjal g'night, #koha!
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21:01 rhcl correction to my mention of Kyle's use of Cakephp above--he is jettisoning it in favor of his own framework
21:01 wizzyrea i was wondering about that
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21:24 Brooke kia ora
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21:29 rhcl Kyle has a bug tracker for libki at Recommend anyone interested register and take a look at it. There are some great feature suggestions on there. <smiling>
21:31 druthb Hi, Brooke! :)
21:31 Brooke :)
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21:47 druthb Hmpf.
21:52 rhcl humpf[…]ne.php?term=humpf
21:52 * druthb chuckles.
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22:29 rhcl outta here, bye #koha
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