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jcamins_away |
gmcharlt: around? |
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jcamins_away |
Probably not, no sensible person would be working now. |
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jcamins_away |
@later tell gmcharlt Do you have any idea how to configure matching rules to match on 035? You seem to have implemented most of the matching rules features. |
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Brooke_ |
kia ora! |
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Brooke_ |
Evening, miss. |
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druthb |
hiyas. :) |
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Brooke_ |
hey jesse :D |
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pianohacker |
Hey Brook |
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pianohacker |
*Brooke_ |
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Brooke_ |
how's it? |
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pianohacker |
Alright, busy end of semester. You? |
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Brooke_ |
3.4's out so I feel half free :D |
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Brooke_ |
not that I do much |
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pianohacker |
What was your role? |
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Brooke_ |
nuffin really |
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Brooke_ |
kowhai of sorts to Chris if one wanted to be technical |
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Brooke_ |
but that has technically expired |
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cait |
hi #koha |
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adnc |
hello |
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Brooke_ |
kia ora |
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cait |
kia ora Brooke :) |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6257] MARC documentation links cause javascript error <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6257> |
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Brooke_ |
katrin++ |
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cait |
:) |
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Brooke_ |
bbiab |
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Brooke_ |
back |
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cait |
wb Brooke_ |
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Brooke_ |
:D |
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* Brooke_ |
was oogling your sechsy slides while you were away. |
| 12:45 |
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Brooke_ |
so much fake data creation |
| 12:45 |
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Brooke_ |
then captioning |
| 12:46 |
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Brooke_ |
some of it's canned |
| 12:46 |
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Brooke_ |
but someone would have to kinda know Koha to be on to that ;) |
| 12:47 |
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adnc |
are there any release dates for packaged koha 3.4? |
| 12:48 |
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Brooke_ |
what do you mean by "packaged?" |
| 12:48 |
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cait |
sorry Brooke |
| 12:48 |
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cait |
fake data creation? |
| 12:49 |
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Brooke_ |
cait: some of the example data for the cataloguing menus ;) |
| 12:49 |
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cait |
I am lost - nothing is faked there :) |
| 12:49 |
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cait |
cataloguing menus? |
| 12:49 |
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cait |
plz tell me |
| 12:50 |
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Brooke_ |
slide 14 is definitely exampley :P |
| 12:50 |
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Brooke_ |
http://opus.bsz-bw.de/swop/vol[…]ha_berlin2010.pdf |
| 12:52 |
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Brooke_ |
do they really use NYPL more than the German z39.50 targets? |
| 12:54 |
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Brooke_ |
so what are you looking for that isn't already up at http://download.koha-community.org/? |
| 12:56 |
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cait |
14 - batch item delete screen? |
| 12:56 |
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cait |
Brooke_: he mans the debian packages |
| 12:57 |
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cait |
debian.koha-community.org - think it's a bit too early for them. |
| 12:57 |
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cait |
adnc: rangi and eythian are not around - you would have to ask them |
| 12:57 |
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adnc |
cait, thanks |
| 13:04 |
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cait |
adnc: we were wrong about the field, I asked Brooke_ :) |
| 13:04 |
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adnc |
ohh |
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cait |
look at that example she gave me: |
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cait |
http://catalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin[…]Ff9J3nOEuqI&SID=1 |
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adnc |
whichone does it need to be? |
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cait |
700 |
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adnc |
in terms of Illustration: my nme? |
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cait |
7000 a your illustrators name |
| 13:07 |
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cait |
and 245 c like it's written on the front page |
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Brooke_ |
doh |
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Brooke_ |
you're talking in main and I'm totally whispering |
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Brooke_ |
Sorry! |
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adnc |
cait, great |
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adnc |
700 are field which cover everyone involved in creating the book? |
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Brooke_ |
no |
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Brooke_ |
as I told cait |
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Brooke_ |
700 is kind of the field that is for cool people that are not actually the proper author |
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Brooke_ |
so |
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Brooke_ |
could be |
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Brooke_ |
a translator |
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Brooke_ |
an illustrator |
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Brooke_ |
an actor |
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Brooke_ |
and so forth |
| 13:10 |
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Brooke_ |
someone that's contributed quite a bit |
| 13:10 |
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Brooke_ |
that a Patron would prolly look for in the catalogue |
| 13:10 |
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adnc |
yes, thats what I understood, great |
| 13:10 |
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Brooke_ |
but is not technically responsible for the work itself |
| 13:10 |
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Brooke_ |
does that make any sense? |
| 13:10 |
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adnc |
sure, thats wonderfull |
| 13:10 |
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Brooke_ |
:D |
| 13:11 |
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Brooke_ |
feel free to ask more questions. Cataloguing is definitely confusing |
| 13:11 |
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cait |
adnc: you know - you will end up being a real librarian soon :) |
| 13:11 |
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Brooke_ |
nengard knows much much more than me |
| 13:11 |
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adnc |
245 is for the exact type |
| 13:11 |
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Brooke_ |
but she's prolly enjoying the holiday |
| 13:11 |
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adnc |
cait, I wouldnt mind |
| 13:11 |
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Brooke_ |
245 is the title statement |
| 13:11 |
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adnc |
245 is for the exact written in the front page? |
| 13:11 |
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Brooke_ |
so in general it's what's ON the book |
| 13:12 |
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cait |
245 a is Hauptsachtitel b is Zusatz/Zusätze zum Hauptsachtitel c ist Verfasser und andere Angaben wie auf dem Titelblatt (afaik) |
| 13:12 |
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Brooke_ |
the chief source is the title page |
| 13:12 |
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adnc |
if the "titelblatt" has something like this |
| 13:12 |
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Brooke_ |
(it's sometimes different from the actually cover of the book, but you can note that.) |
| 13:13 |
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Brooke_ |
eep |
| 13:13 |
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Brooke_ |
added an ly inadvertantly |
| 13:13 |
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adnc |
Sunzi / Die Kunst des Krieges / Herausgegeben und mit einem Vorwort von James Clavell / Droemer |
| 13:13 |
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adnc |
where the slash are newline indicators |
| 13:14 |
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adnc |
the third sentence where does this needs to be recorded? |
| 13:14 |
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Brooke_ |
hang on |
| 13:15 |
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cait |
droemer is the publisher i guess? |
| 13:15 |
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cait |
$c is Herausgegeben mit..... |
| 13:15 |
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cait |
Brooke: where do the editors go? |
| 13:15 |
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adnc |
cait, yes |
| 13:15 |
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adnc |
verlag |
| 13:16 |
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Brooke_ |
crummy |
| 13:16 |
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Brooke_ |
amazon's inside the cover thing is busted for that title |
| 13:16 |
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Brooke_ |
gimme a sec |
| 13:16 |
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adnc |
ohhh |
| 13:16 |
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Brooke_ |
gotta double check |
| 13:16 |
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Brooke_ |
and triple check |
| 13:16 |
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* Brooke_ |
doesn't want to teach someone the wrong thing about cataloguing. |
| 13:17 |
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adnc |
ahh |
| 13:17 |
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adnc |
i found a record with z39.50 from pollux |
| 13:17 |
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adnc |
there it goes to 245c |
| 13:18 |
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cait |
ah pollux :) |
| 13:18 |
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adnc |
;) |
| 13:18 |
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cait |
it should go in 2 fields |
| 13:19 |
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adnc |
there also is 700 filled with the person that is owning the copyright |
| 13:19 |
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cait |
is there a note somewhere else too? 100, 700? |
| 13:19 |
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adnc |
cait, two fields |
| 13:19 |
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adnc |
? |
| 13:19 |
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adnc |
700 has personname 700a |
| 13:19 |
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cait |
hm, the problem is some things might be optional |
| 13:19 |
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cait |
so you can put him in but you don't need to -in our union catalog at least |
| 13:19 |
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adnc |
and 7004 has "edt." |
| 13:20 |
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adnc |
whatever it means |
| 13:20 |
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cait |
that looks ok |
| 13:20 |
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cait |
editor = herausgeber |
| 13:21 |
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cait |
ah right |
| 13:21 |
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cait |
$c starts with Sunzi |
| 13:21 |
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cait |
http://catalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin[…]Ff9J3nOEuqI&SID=1 |
| 13:22 |
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cait |
ups |
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cait |
wrong link |
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cait |
http://swb.bsz-bw.de/DB=2.1/PPNSET?PPN=081727429 |
| 13:22 |
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adnc |
cait, doesnt matter I like that library aswell ;) |
| 13:22 |
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Brooke_ |
have you seen http://www.slc.bc.ca/cheats/marc.htm yet? |
| 13:23 |
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Brooke_ |
245c I have a gut reaction to stay away from |
| 13:23 |
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Brooke_ |
because that's generally only the proper author |
| 13:23 |
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Brooke_ |
but gimme a little more dig time |
| 13:23 |
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adnc |
Brooke_, noo, not yet, thanks |
| 13:23 |
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Brooke_ |
to make sure mah gut is right |
| 13:23 |
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adnc |
cait, what frontend do they use at bsz-bw? |
| 13:23 |
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cait |
for the catalog? |
| 13:24 |
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adnc |
the userinterface on that website |
| 13:24 |
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cait |
it's a software called pica |
| 13:24 |
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adnc |
does it run with coha? |
| 13:24 |
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adnc |
koha? |
| 13:24 |
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wahanui |
i heard koha was a free software ils see http://koha-community.org for more info |
| 13:25 |
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jcamins_away |
Brooke_: I haven't read any context, but 245c contains the entire statement of responsibility. |
| 13:25 |
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cait |
no, it's a proprietary software |
| 13:25 |
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Brooke_ |
yeah I know |
| 13:25 |
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Brooke_ |
I wanna picture of it jcamins |
| 13:25 |
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jcamins_away |
Not just the main author. |
| 13:25 |
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Brooke_ |
since I don't know for certain |
| 13:25 |
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Brooke_ |
if they're looking at Sun Tzus work |
| 13:25 |
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jcamins_away |
Brooke_: a picture of what? |
| 13:25 |
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cait |
jcamins_away: I think so too, I missed at first that Sunzi was the author :) |
| 13:25 |
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Brooke_ |
or if they're looking at summat else |
| 13:25 |
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cait |
adnc: jcamins is a pro cataloger |
| 13:25 |
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Brooke_ |
a picture of the title page :P |
| 13:26 |
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adnc |
cait, was genau bedeutet "entire statement of responsibility"? |
| 13:26 |
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adnc |
cait, ahh nice |
| 13:26 |
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* Brooke_ |
doesn't usually catalogue blind, cause that's how she gets bit |
| 13:26 |
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jcamins_away |
Brooke_: ah, yes, very wise. |
| 13:26 |
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Brooke_ |
and I sure as heck ain't puttin' it through the sausage grinder that is my awful german. |
| 13:26 |
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cait |
I am not sure I can really translate it |
| 13:26 |
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Brooke_ |
but yes |
| 13:26 |
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Brooke_ |
jcamins is officially a much better cataloguer than I'll ever be |
| 13:27 |
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* jcamins_away |
is very, very tired. His reindex failed again last night, so he was up about 2 hours in the middle of the night. |
| 13:27 |
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adnc |
entire statement of responsibility, what does that mean? |
| 13:27 |
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Brooke_ |
and he can sleep walk through what I'm double and triple checking. |
| 13:27 |
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jcamins_away |
Good thing, because sleepwalking is *definitely* on the cards for today. ;) |
| 13:27 |
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Brooke_ |
well |
| 13:27 |
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Brooke_ |
for a bad example |
| 13:27 |
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cait |
jcamins might correct me, but it means listing the part with the persons (authors etc. ) as listed on the title page in $c (which is not a real explanation though) |
| 13:27 |
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Brooke_ |
edited and with an introduction by Michael Car |
| 13:27 |
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Brooke_ |
t |
| 13:28 |
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Brooke_ |
would be one for a book that doesn't have your problem |
| 13:28 |
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cait |
so in your case put the Sunzi. Herausgegeben von ... in $c |
| 13:28 |
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Brooke_ |
http://catalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin[…]x91Ib2DM5x9&SID=1 |
| 13:28 |
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Brooke_ |
BUT |
| 13:28 |
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jcamins_away |
I'll find an example of a title page. |
| 13:28 |
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Brooke_ |
that one is different |
| 13:28 |
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Brooke_ |
because it isn't muddied by a proper author |
| 13:28 |
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cait |
adnc: can of worms... |
| 13:28 |
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Brooke_ |
and there isn't going to be a translator involved |
| 13:28 |
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Brooke_ |
so what you have in your hot little hands is complex |
| 13:29 |
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Brooke_ |
which is why I want to see a picture :P |
| 13:29 |
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Brooke_ |
so take one, if possible |
| 13:29 |
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Brooke_ |
usually I go to Amazon |
| 13:29 |
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Brooke_ |
and Amazon had it |
| 13:29 |
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adnc |
Brooke_, let me manage one, moment |
| 13:29 |
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Brooke_ |
but the inside the cover bit is busted. |
| 13:29 |
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cait |
or you could take that records of ours ... ;) |
| 13:30 |
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adnc |
cait, I did, i'm just asking to learn it |
| 13:30 |
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adnc |
;) |
| 13:30 |
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* Brooke_ |
is a terrible record thief. |
| 13:31 |
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* Brooke_ |
has notches in her belt for a bagpipe chanter, a piece of AV cable, a cricket bat, and other assorted weird things catalogued. |
| 13:31 |
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Brooke_ |
I think that Russian vocabulary book in German neigh kilt me. |
| 13:32 |
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adnc |
http://www.amazon.de/Die-Kunst[…]1303651991&sr=8-5 this is the book, but looks different inside than mine |
| 13:33 |
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Brooke_ |
yeah |
| 13:33 |
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Brooke_ |
which is why I said it was busted and I don't trust it ;) |
| 13:33 |
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Brooke_ |
I can tell a bait and switch for a title page a mile away ;) |
| 13:33 |
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Brooke_ |
sometimes when there are multiple editions of a work that happens |
| 13:33 |
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Brooke_ |
and there are usually tonnes of those anytime Clavell is involved |
| 13:33 |
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Brooke_ |
since he was such a popular author |
| 13:34 |
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* Brooke_ |
was actually looking for a Clavell since the dumb Library didn't have her Lackey. |
| 13:34 |
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adnc |
does someone work for the library of congress, or has someone ever been there? |
| 13:35 |
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Brooke_ |
I was there Tuesday last |
| 13:35 |
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Brooke_ |
in the Lion's Den |
| 13:35 |
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Brooke_ |
with the Taxonomists. |
| 13:35 |
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cait |
jcamins: I feel like I have to blame you for this ... |
| 13:36 |
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* Brooke_ |
would probably never actually work there unless uh |
| 13:36 |
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* cait |
glares at jcamins |
| 13:36 |
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Brooke_ |
they made a mistake in hiring. |
| 13:36 |
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jcamins_away |
cait: what? |
| 13:36 |
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cait |
hehe let me check |
| 13:36 |
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* Brooke_ |
isn't sure who to defend. |
| 13:36 |
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adnc |
Brooke_, are there pictures somewhere how it loooks inside? |
| 13:36 |
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Brooke_ |
Sandy Berman used to work for LOC ;) (This is a joke. A very big joke.) |
| 13:37 |
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Brooke_ |
how the Library of Congress looks inside? |
| 13:37 |
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adnc |
unbelievable, they have most of the books i was looking for records |
| 13:37 |
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adnc |
they must have millions of books |
| 13:37 |
|
* jcamins_away |
is very tired, and even he didn't get tricked by that statement, Brooke_. :P |
| 13:37 |
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cait |
jcamins: importing my usual sample records - default encoding breaks the umlauts, have to set it to utf-8 now |
| 13:37 |
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* Brooke_ |
nods. |
| 13:37 |
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jcamins_away is now known as jcamins |
| 13:37 |
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Brooke_ |
they have tonnes of records, too |
| 13:37 |
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Brooke_ |
and there are a lot for books they don't actually hold. |
| 13:37 |
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jcamins |
cait: it should be defaulting to UTF-8. |
| 13:38 |
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Brooke_ |
it's okay, I won't tell the gay cataloguing mafia that you need a spanking, jcamins :P |
| 13:38 |
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adnc |
cait, mine is utf8 and works really great, just some of pollux records are with strange chars |
| 13:38 |
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Brooke_ |
(they can *hear* cataloguing errors at 10 miles.) |
| 13:38 |
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cait |
adnc: different thing in koha - ignore me :) |
| 13:38 |
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adnc |
ok |
| 13:38 |
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Brooke_ |
by the way, that is one of my favourite books |
| 13:39 |
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* Brooke_ |
cheated. |
| 13:39 |
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adnc |
whichone? |
| 13:39 |
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Brooke_ |
The Art of War |
| 13:39 |
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adnc |
simple to read, difficult to interprete |
| 13:40 |
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* Brooke_ |
posits that George Sue would have no difficulty interpreting. |
| 13:40 |
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jcamins |
Unless it's in German or Chinese, in which case I'd find reading it pretty darn hard, too. |
| 13:40 |
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Brooke_ |
I am nearly totally illiterate in Chinese |
| 13:40 |
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Brooke_ |
just like I've no idea what I'ma do in India, but I'll burn that bridge when I get there. |
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Brooke_ |
Is it Droemer Knaur 1988 or 1996 or 1999 or none of the above? |
| 13:43 |
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* Brooke_ |
whistles at druthb. |
| 13:43 |
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cait |
druthb: I think we should think up a rescue plan for adnc ;) |
| 13:44 |
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druthb |
hehe |
| 13:44 |
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adnc |
rescure plan? |
| 13:44 |
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cait |
to get you out before cataloging gets you |
| 13:44 |
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adnc |
ahh |
| 13:44 |
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adnc |
right! |
| 13:45 |
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Brooke_ |
cataloguing gets everyone eventually |
| 13:45 |
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Brooke_ |
resistance is futile |
| 13:45 |
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druthb |
Once it gets to a certain point, there's no saving you. |
| 13:45 |
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adnc |
;) |
| 13:45 |
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Brooke_ is now known as cataloguer7of9 |
| 13:45 |
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* druthb |
has a mild case of it. |
| 13:46 |
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druthb |
ooo....Brooke_, gonna put on the shiny metallic-grey bodysuit that goes with that name? |
| 13:46 |
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cataloguer7of9 is now known as Brooke_ |
| 13:46 |
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druthb |
chicken. |
| 13:46 |
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Brooke_ |
pfft |
| 13:46 |
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Brooke_ |
not skairt of you |
| 13:46 |
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Brooke_ |
skairt of the gay cataloguing mafia, as is proper. |
| 13:47 |
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cait |
do I want to ask ? |
| 13:47 |
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Brooke_ |
No. |
| 13:47 |
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cait |
better go and find another bug |
| 13:47 |
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* Brooke_ |
has revealed too much already. |
| 13:48 |
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Brooke_ |
adnc |
| 13:48 |
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adnc |
yep |
| 13:48 |
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Brooke_ |
send me a picture of the title page, please |
| 13:48 |
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Brooke_ |
eventually |
| 13:48 |
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Brooke_ |
and I will eventually |
| 13:48 |
|
Brooke_ |
send it back |
| 13:48 |
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adnc |
Brooke_, moment |
| 13:48 |
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Brooke_ |
once the gerbil that powers my mind has chewed it over. |
| 13:49 |
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adnc |
Brooke_, e-mail? |
| 13:50 |
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adnc |
if you query me an email adress, i'll send you the coverpicture |
| 13:51 |
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Brooke_ |
abesottedphoenix @ yahoo.com |
| 13:51 |
|
Brooke_ |
make sure it's the title page, not the cover proper, though also having the cover would be nice |
| 13:51 |
|
Brooke_ |
in case there's a difference |
| 13:52 |
|
Brooke_ |
(heck having the whole bloody book is nicest, but that's a blocker at a distance.) |
| 13:52 |
|
Brooke_ |
the back cover is also intriguing. |
| 13:52 |
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adnc |
i've a picture of the inside title page |
| 13:52 |
|
Brooke_ |
outstanding |
| 13:53 |
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adnc |
outstanding? |
| 13:53 |
|
Brooke_ |
wunderbar! |
| 13:54 |
|
adnc |
ahhh |
| 13:54 |
|
Brooke_ |
:) |
| 13:54 |
|
Brooke_ |
don't know where that came from. |
| 13:54 |
|
adnc |
i didn't give the mail a subject, it might be in your spam folder |
| 13:55 |
|
* Brooke_ |
points the finger of blame at cait. |
| 13:55 |
|
* Brooke_ |
runs off to check the email |
| 13:55 |
|
* cait |
is innocent |
| 13:55 |
|
* druthb |
vouches for cait's innocence. She has an alibi. |
| 13:56 |
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Brooke_ |
the diesel gerbil that powers my Deutsch didn't just get up by himself this morning. |
| 13:57 |
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Brooke_ |
buttt |
| 13:57 |
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Brooke_ |
can't argue with Ruth. |
| 13:57 |
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Brooke_ |
feh. |
| 13:57 |
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druthb |
Well, you *could* argue with Ruth, but it wouldn't do much good. |
| 13:58 |
|
* druthb |
helpfully suggests that arguing with a brick wall--or an irritated rhinocerous--is probably more productive. |
| 13:59 |
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Brooke_ |
thankfully the kiwis are asleep or I could run the risk of being even more outnumbered. |
| 13:59 |
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druthb |
we don need no jransom. Cait n I have you cornered! |
| 13:59 |
|
* Brooke_ |
points out that she is the most stubborn substance known to man. |
| 13:59 |
|
* Brooke_ |
was thinking space_librarian, actually. |
| 13:59 |
|
Brooke_ |
or anitsirk. |
| 13:59 |
|
* druthb |
is not a man, and so denies that knowledge. |
| 14:00 |
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druthb |
oooo...yeah, space_librarian would be handy to have around. We'd have you outnumbered, and she'd bring tasty cookies, too. |
| 14:01 |
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Brooke_ |
>.> |
| 14:01 |
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jcamins |
Mmm. Cookies. |
| 14:01 |
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Brooke_ |
<.< |
| 14:01 |
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Brooke_ |
How about them cookies? |
| 14:01 |
|
jcamins |
I've decided to bake peanut butter cookies while I'm waiting for the butter to soften. |
| 14:01 |
|
jcamins |
The only problem is I can't find the bowl I'd use for it. |
| 14:01 |
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* Brooke_ |
drools. |
| 14:02 |
|
* Brooke_ |
s mixing bowl is collecting dust behind her on the trunks near the window. |
| 14:03 |
|
* druthb |
s mixing bowl is in the dishwasher; the minion used it for some-concoction-or-other last night. |
| 14:03 |
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Brooke_ |
adnc - got it, but it's like mebbe a third of the page. |
| 14:03 |
|
* Brooke_ |
wants the whole durn thing, even if it's white space or seemingly unimportant. |
| 14:03 |
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jcamins |
Shari found the bowl I wanted. |
| 14:04 |
|
jcamins |
The tricky part was that I *didn't* want the mixing bowls. |
| 14:04 |
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jcamins |
Better to save those for my baking frenzy later on. |
| 14:04 |
|
jcamins |
I wanted a serving bowl. |
| 14:04 |
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Brooke_ |
I'd blame this on an ill designed kitchen |
| 14:04 |
|
jcamins |
We never have guests, so we don't use it much. |
| 14:04 |
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cait |
Brooke_: don't you think you may make it a bit overly complicated? |
| 14:04 |
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* cait |
ducks |
| 14:04 |
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Brooke_ |
but when I was luxuriating in mah self designed kitchen I was still too spoilt to cook very often. |
| 14:04 |
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jcamins |
Also, everything from our kitchen is still piled up in the living room. |
| 14:05 |
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Brooke_ |
cait that is unpossible even for a computer :P |
| 14:05 |
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cait |
cookies? |
| 14:05 |
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* cait |
looks a bit lost at jcamins |
| 14:05 |
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* cait |
adds the sad puppy look |
| 14:05 |
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* Brooke_ |
should call by jcamins' place and put it to rights for the good of the community. |
| 14:05 |
|
* Brooke_ |
gives cait a virtual cookie of her choosing. |
| 14:06 |
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cait |
this is not the same a as a virtual peanut butter cookie from jcamins |
| 14:06 |
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* cait |
takes the chocolate chip cookie anyway |
| 14:06 |
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Brooke_ |
mebbe it *is* a virtual peanut butter cookie that jcamins made while you were /away ;P |
| 14:07 |
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Brooke_ |
virtual food is a related work to bullshite, so my supply is limitless |
| 14:08 |
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Brooke_ |
ah ha |
| 14:08 |
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Brooke_ |
yahoo mangled it a wee bit |
| 14:08 |
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Brooke_ |
this looks much better on me desktop |
| 14:09 |
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Brooke_ |
ooooh la la |
| 14:09 |
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Brooke_ |
arabic calligraphy |
| 14:10 |
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Brooke_ |
and it is droemer |
| 14:10 |
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Brooke_ |
good good |
| 14:10 |
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Brooke_ |
can I trouble you for a verso picture? that should be the back of the title page. |
| 14:13 |
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* Brooke_ |
suspects heavily that worldcat has an entry for this. |
| 14:13 |
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Brooke_ |
but I also suspect that their entry will suck arse. |
| 14:14 |
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cait |
@later tell rangi can nozebra bugs like 2178 be marked as wontfix? |
| 14:14 |
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huginn |
cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 14:19 |
|
huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 2246] Label printing doesn't work with Unicode characters <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2246> |
| 14:20 |
|
jcamins |
Okay, the state of the world has improved a bit. |
| 14:21 |
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cait |
cookies? |
| 14:21 |
|
jcamins |
Yep. |
| 14:21 |
|
jcamins |
:D |
| 14:22 |
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* Brooke_ |
drools again. |
| 14:22 |
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cait |
yay! |
| 14:22 |
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cait |
share? |
| 14:23 |
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cait |
@later tell eythian is there a bug for your holds rewrite I could link things like bug 2237 to? |
| 14:23 |
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huginn |
cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 14:23 |
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* Brooke_ |
points out that he's lucky he lives in The City and not DC. |
| 14:23 |
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jcamins |
When they come out of the oven sure. :) |
| 14:23 |
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cait |
@later tell eythian accounts rewrite even |
| 14:23 |
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huginn |
cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 14:23 |
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* jcamins |
isn't so sure of that, Brooke_. |
| 14:23 |
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Brooke_ |
oh no, trust me, I'd be glued to your window like a strange cat. |
| 14:23 |
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jcamins |
I guess that hinges on one crucial issue- how bad is DC's roach problem? |
| 14:24 |
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Brooke_ |
it depends on how bad one's neighbours are or possibly how bad one's building management is. |
| 14:24 |
|
* druthb |
has not seen one in my building in the nearly two years we've been here. |
| 14:24 |
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cait |
you should move to Germany - don't have seen a roach in Konstanz ;) |
| 14:24 |
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jcamins |
cait: okay, I'm sold. |
| 14:24 |
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Brooke_ |
pfft |
| 14:24 |
|
jcamins |
And that'll make learning German much easier. |
| 14:25 |
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druthb |
stinkbugs, yes. an occasional spider, sure. but no roaches. |
| 14:25 |
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* Brooke_ |
didn't see any roaches in eNZed suckers. |
| 14:25 |
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cait |
jcamins: I will be glad to help you with that - in exchange for cookies ;) |
| 14:25 |
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jcamins |
Did I mention that it turns out that the previous tenants in this apartment *caused* the roach problem, and for six years refused to have the exterminator come? |
| 14:26 |
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Brooke_ |
that's usually how it is |
| 14:26 |
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druthb |
hm. |
| 14:26 |
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druthb |
wahanui: jcamins? |
| 14:26 |
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wahanui |
jcamins is supposed to be an outstanding cook. or well-traveled and brilliant. or trying to think of a solution, but short of a set of three sysprefs (ShelfBrowserUsesLocation, ShelfBrowserUsesCcode, and ShelfBrowserUsesHomeBranch), I don't really have any ideas. |
| 14:26 |
|
* druthb |
blinks |
| 14:26 |
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Brooke_ |
I was amazed on moving in to mah last place that there wasn't a trash smell since we were next to the trash room |
| 14:26 |
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cait |
ok |
| 14:26 |
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Brooke_ |
but the wrong people moved in |
| 14:26 |
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Brooke_ |
and welllll |
| 14:26 |
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Brooke_ |
we moved out |
| 14:26 |
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cait |
can one delete an message from huginn? |
| 14:26 |
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adnc |
Brooke_, its actually the whole page |
| 14:26 |
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adnc |
not a third |
| 14:26 |
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cait |
I confused the bug numbers too... |
| 14:26 |
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cait |
*sighs* |
| 14:27 |
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Brooke_ |
adnc - saw that after I downloaded it to me desk |
| 14:27 |
|
Brooke_ |
yahoo mangled it, sorry for the confusion |
| 14:27 |
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druthb |
wahanui: Brooke_? |
| 14:27 |
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wahanui |
well, Brooke_ is the best dinner companion a girl could want. |
| 14:27 |
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druthb |
:D |
| 14:27 |
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cait |
@later help |
| 14:27 |
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huginn |
cait: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
| 14:27 |
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wahanui |
i already had it that way, huginn. |
| 14:27 |
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Brooke_ |
:| |
| 14:27 |
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druthb |
wahanui: druthb? |
| 14:27 |
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wahanui |
rumour has it druthb is one fine number in a skirt |
| 14:27 |
|
Brooke_ |
tee hee |
| 14:27 |
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* druthb |
eyes Brooke_ evilly. |
| 14:27 |
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cait |
Brooke_? |
| 14:27 |
|
wahanui |
somebody said Brooke_ was the best dinner companion a girl could want. |
| 14:27 |
|
Brooke_ |
>:| |
| 14:27 |
|
* Brooke_ |
is not sure what to do with that... |
| 14:28 |
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druthb |
take the hint? |
| 14:28 |
|
* Brooke_ |
s machismo is prolly not gonna allow that to change, regrettably... |
| 14:28 |
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druthb |
wahanui: cait? |
| 14:28 |
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wahanui |
cait is a competent programmer AND really sweet. |
| 14:29 |
|
cait |
butnot very competent using the later command |
| 14:29 |
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druthb |
wahanui: cait? |
| 14:29 |
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wahanui |
cait is kf |
| 14:29 |
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druthb |
wahanui: kf? |
| 14:29 |
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wahanui |
kf is probably cait |
| 14:29 |
|
druthb |
lol |
| 14:29 |
|
Brooke_ |
boo! |
| 14:29 |
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cait |
oh no, my secret... |
| 14:30 |
|
* Brooke_ |
was trying to think of a good one for cait the other day |
| 14:30 |
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druthb |
wahanui: wizzyrea? |
| 14:30 |
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wahanui |
wizzyrea is a wonderful mother, colleague, and friend. or a koha poet |
| 14:30 |
|
druthb |
:) |
| 14:30 |
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Brooke_ |
but I couldn't best the one that was already in there |
| 14:30 |
|
Brooke_ |
wahanui forget brooke |
| 14:30 |
|
wahanui |
Brooke_, I didn't have anything matching brooke |
| 14:30 |
|
Brooke_ |
wahanui forget brooke_ |
| 14:30 |
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wahanui |
Brooke_: I forgot brooke_ |
| 14:31 |
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druthb |
I had something in there about her konigsberger klopse mit salzkartoffeln for a long time. |
| 14:31 |
|
druthb |
did I spell that right, cait? |
| 14:31 |
|
* druthb |
didn't look it up. |
| 14:32 |
|
cait |
königsberger but the rest is right - and I only made them that one time! |
| 14:32 |
|
cait |
hm... dinner |
| 14:32 |
|
cait |
salmon and rice with roasted pine nuts perhaps ... |
| 14:32 |
|
* druthb |
doesn't have the key combination for ö in her head, either. |
| 14:32 |
|
Brooke_ |
salmon and rice |
| 14:33 |
|
* Brooke_ |
resumes dooling. |
| 14:33 |
|
cait |
druthb: hehe |
| 14:34 |
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cait |
druthb: I only know that shift + ö will produce a : from my dos time |
| 14:34 |
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cait |
so I could get to the right drive for repairing the settings I broke before |
| 14:34 |
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jcamins |
Alt-024x, I think (where 'x' is to be replaced by the appropriate number... maybe 0248?) |
| 14:34 |
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Brooke_ |
what's the origin of the salmon? |
| 14:35 |
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cait |
the freezer - I have no idea |
| 14:35 |
|
Brooke_ |
and is it wild rice? |
| 14:35 |
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Brooke_ |
pfft freezer. |
| 14:35 |
|
cait |
it's wild rice mixed with normal |
| 14:36 |
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* Brooke_ |
wants proper salmon, fed on hazelnuts, with no mistakes this time goddamnit! |
| 14:37 |
|
Brooke_ |
just 9 nuts though. Not 8 or 10. That ruins it. |
| 14:37 |
|
* druthb |
harrumphs at Brooke_. |
| 14:37 |
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* Brooke_ |
goes back in the corner to mumble about cataloguing. |
| 14:37 |
|
cait |
lol |
| 14:38 |
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* Brooke_ |
whispers that this is why Druthb can't have nice things. |
| 14:38 |
|
druthb |
:P |
| 14:39 |
|
druthb |
speaking of nice things, Brooke_, I'm making some toast with lingonberry preserves...want a slice? |
| 14:39 |
|
Brooke_ |
not when wild rice has been mentioned :P |
| 14:39 |
|
Brooke_ |
or peanut butter cookies. |
| 14:39 |
|
Brooke_ |
plus, I still have a bottle of Hendricks for eventually. |
| 14:40 |
|
cait |
lingonberry? |
| 14:40 |
|
* cait |
read klingonberry |
| 14:40 |
|
Brooke_ |
hehehehe |
| 14:41 |
|
Brooke_ |
clearly cait would not have such unpure Star Trek thoughts on her own without some other ratbag nerd putting them there with earlier ramblings. |
| 14:42 |
|
cait |
7of9? |
| 14:43 |
|
* Brooke_ |
needs a decent wörterbuch... |
| 14:43 |
|
druthb |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lingonberry_jam |
| 14:47 |
|
* Brooke_ |
eyes this naughty, naughty title page with extreme suspicion. |
| 14:48 |
|
Brooke_ |
Cautus enim metuit foveam lupus... |
| 14:54 |
|
cait |
? |
| 14:54 |
|
* jcamins |
distributes peanut butter cookies. |
| 14:55 |
|
* druthb |
takes one and nibbles on it. |
| 14:55 |
|
jcamins |
Does anyone have an example of using runtime parameters for dates? |
| 14:57 |
|
jcamins |
Found it. |
| 15:01 |
|
cait |
bug 5877 |
| 15:01 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5877 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED, Offline circulation improvements : upload all files, apply at once |
| 15:02 |
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cait |
missing table in patch - failed qa ok? |
| 15:06 |
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druthb |
I'd think so, yah. |
| 15:08 |
|
cait |
trying to clean up the database a little... but this is a task for the man with the rock and the hill. |
| 15:09 |
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jcamins |
Sisyphus? :) |
| 15:09 |
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druthb |
That's the fellow. |
| 15:09 |
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* Brooke_ |
giggles. |
| 15:09 |
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cait |
I remembered the name, but not how to spell it :) |
| 15:10 |
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Brooke_ |
it's technically os but who's counting |
| 15:10 |
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Brooke_ |
Σίσυφος |
| 15:11 |
|
Brooke_ |
-us warm the cold, Roman, cockles of Brooke's "heart", though. |
| 15:12 |
|
Brooke_ |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F[…]ungen_1494_n2.jpg |
| 15:12 |
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* Brooke_ |
sighs at the prospect of eventually getting to German museums housing neat stuff to drool over. |
| 15:19 |
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Brooke_ |
Sisyphus? |
| 15:19 |
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wahanui |
i guess Sisyphus is spelt neither druthb nor cait. |
| 15:20 |
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cait |
lol |
| 15:20 |
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Brooke_ |
botsnack wahanui peanut butter cookie |
| 15:20 |
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Brooke_ |
bah I'm off |
| 15:20 |
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druthb |
lol |
| 15:21 |
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cait |
wahanui botsnack peanut butter cookie |
| 15:21 |
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wahanui |
:) |
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Oak |
\o |
| 15:33 |
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magnus_away is now known as magnuse |
| 15:34 |
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cait |
hi Oak and magnus |
| 15:34 |
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Oak |
Hello cait :) |
| 15:34 |
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magnuse |
hi cait and Oak |
| 15:34 |
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magnuse |
cait++ # for closing bugs |
| 15:35 |
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cait |
I am trying |
| 15:35 |
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cait |
but feeling like s. |
| 15:35 |
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cait |
Sisyphos |
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wahanui |
Sisyphos is probably spelt neither druthb nor cait. |
| 15:36 |
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magnuse |
hehe |
| 15:37 |
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Oak |
Hello magnuse :) |
| 15:38 |
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druthb |
hi, magnuse! :D |
| 15:38 |
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magnuse |
o/ |
| 15:38 |
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magnuse |
has anyone else seen all subfields in the cataloguing screens expanded? |
| 15:40 |
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jcamins |
magnuse: yes. |
| 15:40 |
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jcamins |
Only on one system, though. |
| 15:40 |
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magnuse |
u huh? |
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magnuse |
hiya Ahmuck |
| 15:41 |
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Ahmuck |
hi magnuse |
| 15:41 |
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jcamins |
magnuse: I have no idea what caused it, though. |
| 15:42 |
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magnuse |
me neither |
| 15:43 |
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magnuse |
jcamins: did you make a bug for it? |
| 15:44 |
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jcamins |
magnuse: no, I figured I did something wrong since I couldn't reproduce it in my test VM. |
| 15:48 |
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druthb |
Whew! Got the data loaded for two go-lives. Now just some setup stuff.... this girl's gonna get to bed at a reasonable hour tonight, maybe. |
| 15:49 |
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cait |
grrr |
| 15:49 |
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* cait |
should not try to fix bugs for things she does not even use |
| 15:50 |
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jcamins |
cait: no you shouldn't. |
| 15:50 |
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cait |
hm |
| 15:50 |
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cait |
but guided reports does not work |
| 15:57 |
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* cait |
cries a little and goes to cook rice |
| 16:02 |
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* jcamins |
has How to Succeed in Business Without Really Trying stuck in his head. |
| 16:02 |
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magnuse |
is it a song? |
| 16:03 |
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jcamins |
It's a show. |
| 16:03 |
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jcamins |
I have the entire score, all 29 songs, stuck in my head. |
| 16:03 |
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jcamins |
All at once. |
| 16:03 |
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jcamins |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AL3qpCbJqM |
| 16:03 |
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cait |
OO |
| 16:03 |
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cait |
and I got the headache |
| 16:04 |
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magnuse |
sounds kind of painful... |
| 16:04 |
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* magnuse |
wanders off to make pizza... |
| 16:04 |
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jcamins |
Mmm. Pizza. |
| 16:05 |
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* magnuse |
will try to get that recipe written down... |
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cait |
magnuse++ |
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cait |
hi paul_P |
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paul_p |
hi cait. Just here a few seconds to launch a long script for Aix-Marseille universities ;-) |
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* cait |
is translating |
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adnc |
rangi, ping |
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cait |
adnc: I think rangi is not around |
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adnc |
hi cait |
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cait |
hi adnc |
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adnc |
i thought i might ask for koha 3.4 |
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adnc |
;) |
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cait |
remember: easter holidays |
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jcamins |
Holiday? |
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jcamins |
What does that mean. |
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jcamins |
*? |
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jcamins |
I think it means that I need to bake a gazillion cookies. |
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jcamins |
cait: do you recall a bug about returns not triggering a transfer to the item's home library? |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
you mean not the one with return from the borrower's account right? |
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jcamins |
Right. |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
there was a bug ian commented on |
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jcamins |
Bug 5800? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5800 normal, P3, ---, ian.walls, NEW, Hold Policy "home library only" incompatible with CircControl "patron home library" |
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cait |
bug 6004 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6004 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, checking in an item that needs to be transferred home, and is on-hold for a patron, causes dual transfer message box |
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cait |
a search for transfer brings up some more suspects, but I don't really remember |
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jcamins |
Hm. Ah well. |
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adnc |
has someone got a description of Dewey Decimal Classification? |
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jcamins |
adnc: WebDewey? |
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jcamins |
http://www.oclc.org/dewey/versions/webdewey/ |
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adnc |
jcamins, thanks I'll look for it. i don't understand what it is |
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adnc |
what is ILS-DI? |
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jcamins |
A web service thing. |
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cait |
jcamins: what do you think about bug 813 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=813 enhancement, P2, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED, OPAC virtual shelves should store comments |
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