IRC log for #koha, 2011-04-23

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02:38 druthb o/
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04:33 sunb i just checked koha 3.4
04:34 sunb i was waiting for this version as it will support adding bound volumes
04:34 sunb but release does not give any details of it does this version support adding bound volumes into database
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04:38 kmkale Namaskar #koha
04:41 sunb hi koustubha
04:42 sunb i was waiting for koha 3.4 to check whether it allows to add bound volumes
04:42 sunb do u have any idea
04:47 kmkale no sunb
05:02 rangi sunb: do you catalogue those with analytic records?
05:03 sunb we havent yet done that
05:03 rangi if you do, you can catalogue them that way in koha
05:04 sunb ok but i was under impression that with 3.4 it will allow to club together loose issues from serials and then bound them and give accession number
05:04 rangi sure
05:04 rangi you of course have to do that manually, but you can link them together using the record control number
05:05 rangi where did you get the impression it would bind for you?
05:06 sunb[…]ding_loose_issues
05:06 rangi yep, no one wrote that, if it had been worked on it would have a bugnumber attached
05:08 sunb is there any documentation available for giving link to record number and adding bound volumes in analytical entry
05:08 rangi[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5959
05:08 huginn Bug 5959: enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Add search link for analytics to serial records
05:11 rangi you probably want to ask katrin
05:12 rangi or email the koha-devel list
05:24 kmkale sunb = Sunita Barve?
05:25 rangi there is this also
05:25 rangi[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5528
05:25 huginn Bug 5528: enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Analytical records support
05:25 rangi but it wasnt tested/signed off so isn't in 3.4.0
05:25 rangi well it was tested, and had some suggestions made, but those werent finished off, so it missed the feature freeze
05:29 jenkins_koha Starting build 226 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
05:29 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 2941 Transfers cannot be canceled once initiated <[…]7d4aa93960fea567f>
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06:09 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #226: SUCCESS in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/226/
06:09 jenkins_koha Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 2941 Transfers cannot be canceled once initiated
06:10 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2941 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED, Transfers cannot be canceled once initiated.
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06:21 cait good morning #koha
07:05 rangi hi cait
07:06 rangi do you eat hot cross buns on easter friday in germany?
07:06 rangi because im still full from the ones i ate last night :)
07:07 rangi
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07:57 rangi wb cait
08:00 cait hi rangi
08:01 cait hm, we have some easter pastries and buns, but I don't know those
08:04 cait rangi: I used to bake easter lamps for my family, looking like these:[…]ildosterlamm2.jpg
08:04 cait lambs... not lamps
08:08 rangi mm lamb
08:08 kmkale :)
08:09 cait :)
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10:22 cait @wunder Konstanz
10:22 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 19.5�C (12:20 PM CEST on April 23, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010.0 hPa (Steady).
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10:57 druthb good day, #koha.
11:04 cait hi druthb :)
11:21 kmkale hi druthb :)
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14:27 jcamins_away Anyone here know about OPAC item suppression?
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15:54 * jcamins_away waves to cait
15:54 * cait waves back
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17:03 druthb o/
17:05 jcamins_away Hello.
17:07 * jcamins_away continues his battle with data corruption.
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18:32 cait hi #koha
18:32 jcamins_away Hi cait.
18:32 cait hi jcamins_away :)
18:32 cait have you baked something for easter?
18:33 jcamins_away cait: I'm Jewish. ;)
18:33 cait oh
18:33 cait :)
18:34 jcamins_away Did you do any baking for Easter?
18:34 cait no
18:34 cait when I was living in Reutlingen I did
18:35 cait when I had a real oven! not this small something
18:35 cait :)
18:35 cait so nothing special on the menu today? you always produce so yummy sounding things
18:37 jcamins_away I might bake something, even though it's Passover.
18:38 cait Passover?
18:38 jcamins_away = Passah in German
18:39 jcamins_away = пасха еврейская in Russian.
18:39 jcamins_away = פסח in Hebrew
18:40 jcamins_away = Pâque in French
18:40 * jcamins_away tries to think of the word in other languages
18:41 cait ah
18:41 cait pessach
18:42 jcamins_away Yup. :)
18:42 cait now that you remind me - the hfjs had closed all last week
18:45 jcamins_away I'm not surprised.
18:45 cait yep
18:52 cait I thought you ere asking about opac suppression?
18:52 cait saw...
18:52 jcamins_away I was, but I figured it out.
18:53 cait ok
18:54 cait opacsuppression or the new feature?
18:54 jcamins_away Opacsuppression.
18:55 jcamins_away Okay, I should eat some lunch now.
18:55 jcamins_away Back in a few.
18:55 cait ok
18:55 cait same here - but dinner
18:55 cait :)
19:01 magnus_away is now known as magnuse
19:02 cait hi magnuse :)
19:02 magnuse hiya cait
19:02 * magnuse is just dropping by
19:03 cait how is holidays?
19:04 magnuse very nice - nice ad quiet
19:04 magnuse and had some lovely weather today - sun and warmth and no wind!
19:04 cait :)
19:04 magnuse @wunder bodo, norway
19:04 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 9.0�C (8:50 PM CEST on April 23, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: -2.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
19:04 cait very sunny here too
19:04 magnuse and you?
19:04 cait we need some rain though
19:04 cait @wunder Konstanz
19:04 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 20.0�C (9:00 PM CEST on April 23, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 22%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Rising).
19:04 magnuse oh wow!
19:05 cait yep
19:05 cait very warm april
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19:06 * cait waves
19:06 magnuse o/
19:07 magnuse we could use some of that heat - got a taste of it today :-)
19:08 magnuse hm, i find myself not quite understanding the translations - in Pootle nb-NO says 100% done for the 3.4 opac, but there are definitely strings in the 3.4 opac that are not translated...
19:09 cait yes
19:09 cait I think the files are probably not updated for TT
19:09 cait compare to the German opac file
19:10 magnuse you have 100% for opac, 60 for staff and 99 for sysprefs?
19:11 magnuse which is weird too - the staff translation for nb-NO has not been touched in a long while and it's at 75%, way more than your german?
19:11 cait hm
19:11 magnuse are you saying nb-NO are not updated for TT, or all of the langauages?
19:11 cait not sure about that
19:12 cait I uploaded the opac file myself
19:13 cait hm looks like that is an updated file
19:13 cait not sure if frederic only completed German
19:14 cait hm
19:14 cait my staff file is a lot bigger than yours
19:14 magnuse hm, i'll bug him about it after the holidays
19:14 magnuse ah, that would explain the lower percentage
19:15 magnuse you generated .po files yourself ad uploaded to pootle?
19:15 cait I did a lot of translation testing and rangi fixed a lot of things
19:16 cait to test it right I updated the files a lot and did a complete translation of opac
19:16 cait to check if everything gets translated
19:16 magnuse cait++
19:16 magnuse :-)
19:17 druthb cait++
19:17 cait args :)
19:17 cait @karma cait
19:17 huginn cait: Karma for "cait" has been increased 91 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 91.
19:18 cait you know, that's dangerous what you are doing there
19:18 druthb you credit for being awesome?
19:19 magnuse ye
19:19 magnuse yeah, give credit where credit is due, i say!
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19:21 * cait hides and takes the cookies with her
19:21 druthb1 hee hee
19:22 magnuse hey druthb you got the replication working?!? ;-)
19:24 cait I hope she will share the secret with us
19:24 cait I could make great use of replicates right now
19:25 * magnuse has the image of the sorcerers apprentice from fantasia in his minds eye
19:25 cait hm
19:25 cait I thoroughly cleaned this place today
19:25 cait no water buckets!
19:26 magnuse yay!
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19:29 druthb1 I thought I did, maybe, but apparently not.
19:29 cait oh...
19:29 druthb1 is now known as druthb
19:36 * magnuse is off to watch Lewis - english crime investigations at it's best ;-)
19:36 magnuse sa ya later folks!
19:36 magnuse s/sa/see/
19:36 cait cya
19:36 magnuse is now known as magnus_away
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19:52 * jcamins_away curses
19:53 * jcamins_away curses more vigorously
19:54 * jcamins_away curses with shocking creativity
19:56 * druthb1 puts her hands over cait's ears.
19:56 druthb1 is now known as druthb
19:57 cait huh?
19:57 * cait looks at your moving lips confusedly
19:58 jcamins_away My reindex went through 241000 of 120593 records, then threw an error.
19:59 druthb eeeewwww
20:00 * cait tries to read lips
20:06 jcamins_away Oh, mystery solved.
20:06 druthb ?
20:06 jcamins_away hardlinks.
20:06 jcamins_away Zebra read both exported_records files.
20:07 jcamins_away Even though they were identical.
20:07 druthb oh
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20:17 jcamins_away GRS-1--
20:23 * cait can't follow
20:23 cait cookie?
20:24 jcamins_away Please!
20:24 druthb making_jcamins_giggle++
20:25 * cait sends jcamins a cookie
20:25 jcamins_away cait++ # for cookies
20:25 jcamins_away druthb++ # for saving me lots of puzzling
20:27 druthb :)
20:28 cait druthb++
20:28 * druthb blushes
20:28 cait I think she beats cookies
20:28 * jcamins_away might need to make cookies, even though it's Passover.
20:30 * druthb blushes and hides.
20:30 jcamins_away Uhhh... where did the delete_records_without_items script come from?
20:30 jcamins_away Did I write that?
20:30 druthb possibly I did; I've used it several places.
20:31 cait druthb: don't say you are adapting my bad habits ;)
20:31 druthb I won't say it, then.
20:32 druthb jcamins_away: looking at the first few lines should show--unless you copied one of my scripts for its' DNA
20:32 jcamins_away That's why I'm confused... it's copyright ByWater, but it doesn't have your name, and it does have perldoc.
20:32 druthb then it's not me.
20:33 jcamins_away Probably not sekjal, either, based on the perldoc.
20:33 cait perldoc?
20:34 jcamins_away You know, inline documentation.
20:35 * druthb is REAL bad about not doing good docs.
20:37 * jcamins_away resists the urge to just try the MySQL-only solution.
20:37 jcamins_away SQL is more fun that Perl.
20:37 druthb to delete empty bibs?
20:38 jcamins_away No, that was an aside.
20:38 druthb oh, okay.
20:38 druthb 'bout to say--if you are gonna reindex anyway, the SQL answer works Just Fine.
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20:40 jcamins_away Oh, for crying out loud!
20:40 jcamins_away "Error: Can't call method "raw" on an undefined value at /home/jcamins/kohaclone/C4/ line 450."
20:42 * druthb puts on the hazmat suit, and hands a spare to jcamins_away.
20:43 druthb if you're gonna be looking at
20:43 cait lol
20:44 jcamins_away CURSE YOU, ZEBRA!!!
20:45 * jcamins_away reindexes again.
20:50 * druthb starts her Data Crunching playlist on iTunes.
20:50 * jcamins_away decides to print out a picture of a Zebra and fling darts at it.
20:50 jcamins_away Or possibly burn it in effigy.
20:51 jcamins_away I appreciate that most of our problems stem from poor configuration, but the absolute lack of useful diagnostic information, and the tendency to crash and burn, is definitely a fundamental design flaw.
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20:58 druthb hi, space_librarian! :D
20:59 cait hi space_librarian
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21:10 jcamins_away Does anyone happen to know if information about frameworks is stored anywhere other than marc_subfield_structure and marc_tag_structure?
21:11 jcamins_away And biblio_framework.
21:12 cait hm
21:12 cait seems a complete list tome
21:12 cait what are you missing?
21:12 jcamins_away I haven't tried it yet.
21:12 jcamins_away Just thought I'd check.
21:12 jcamins_away In case someone knew something I didn't.
21:12 cait should be all
21:16 cait hm
21:17 jcamins_away Well, that seems to work.
21:19 cait I truncate them all when I load german frameworks
21:19 cait works perfectly
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21:25 * druthb hands cait the Velcro
21:25 cait thx :)
21:30 jcamins_away Okay, it has reindexed.
21:30 jcamins_away Except it's not done.
21:31 jcamins_away Grr.
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21:34 jcamins_away Well, it's doing something.
21:34 jcamins_away That's progress.
21:34 jcamins_away Apparently disabling shadow indexing doesn't actually disable shadow indexing.
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21:35 pianohacker Hello
21:36 jcamins_away Hello.
21:36 jcamins_away Could updating the register from the shadow take any longer?
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21:38 jcamins_away It's done!
21:39 jcamins_away pianohacker: how's your semester going?
21:39 cait hi pianohacker :)
21:39 * druthb waves to pianohacker.
21:39 pianohacker Very busy, as it's finally ending
21:39 pianohacker Hi cait, druthb
21:39 pianohacker Lots of tests and projects and papers due
21:39 pianohacker But soon it will be over, glory hallelujah
21:40 pianohacker How are you guys?
21:40 jcamins_away :)
21:40 * jcamins_away has five papers to write, though only one is due next week.
21:41 jcamins_away (so I can sympathize)
21:43 cait only a presentation
21:44 * cait imagines having to write 5 papers and shuders
21:47 * druthb is working on two new Koha libraries, plus one more for mid-week...and a presentation that's a bit more than a week away.
21:49 * jcamins_away swears off of JOIN USING ()
21:50 cait jcamins: I am a little worried about you
21:50 jcamins_away cait: why?
21:51 cait lots of -- and swearing and cursing today
21:51 * jcamins_away is not having a very good day.
21:51 jcamins_away He has been trying to reindex a 120k-record install for 10 hours.
21:52 cait hmwaht about taking a break, rethink your problem and bake cookies? ;)
21:52 jcamins_away Well, more, if you count the fact that I spent four hours on it yesterday, and I have tried reindexing it every day since Tuesday.
21:53 pianohacker What's wrong with it?
21:53 jcamins_away pianohacker: a whole slew of things.
21:54 jcamins_away First there were 8 corrupted records.
21:54 jcamins_away Then the system stopped booting.
21:55 jcamins_away Then the indexer refused to behave.
21:55 pianohacker Oi. How did they get corrupted?
21:55 pianohacker well, zebraidx is always a pain
21:55 jcamins_away Unfortunately, I have no idea.
21:56 jcamins_away Well, two of them were caused by UTF-8 in the call numbers.
21:56 jcamins_away The other 6? No idea.
21:57 pianohacker Unicode call numbers? That's bizarre
21:58 jcamins_away Yep.
21:58 cait why?
21:58 jcamins_away I think they copy-pasted the title into the call number field.
21:58 * cait have seen umlauts in callnumbers a lot
21:58 cait has..
21:59 pianohacker I think they're usually restricted to ASCII, especially in the states, though Ü makes sense in germany
22:00 cait jcamins: but I think koha can handle that - utf-8 in callnumbers?
22:02 jcamins_away cait: It's supposed to be able to.
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