Time Nick Message 02:38 druthb o/ 04:33 sunb i just checked koha 3.4 04:34 sunb i was waiting for this version as it will support adding bound volumes 04:34 sunb but release does not give any details of it does this version support adding bound volumes into database 04:38 kmkale Namaskar #koha 04:41 sunb hi koustubha 04:42 sunb i was waiting for koha 3.4 to check whether it allows to add bound volumes 04:42 sunb do u have any idea 04:47 kmkale no sunb 05:02 rangi sunb: do you catalogue those with analytic records? 05:03 sunb we havent yet done that 05:03 rangi if you do, you can catalogue them that way in koha 05:04 sunb ok but i was under impression that with 3.4 it will allow to club together loose issues from serials and then bound them and give accession number 05:04 rangi sure 05:04 rangi you of course have to do that manually, but you can link them together using the record control number 05:05 rangi where did you get the impression it would bind for you? 05:06 sunb http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Binding_loose_issues 05:06 rangi yep, no one wrote that, if it had been worked on it would have a bugnumber attached 05:08 sunb is there any documentation available for giving link to record number and adding bound volumes in analytical entry 05:08 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5959 05:08 huginn 04Bug 5959: enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Add search link for analytics to serial records 05:11 rangi you probably want to ask katrin 05:12 rangi or email the koha-devel list 05:24 kmkale sunb = Sunita Barve? 05:25 rangi there is this also 05:25 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5528 05:25 huginn 04Bug 5528: enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Analytical records support 05:25 rangi but it wasnt tested/signed off so isn't in 3.4.0 05:25 rangi well it was tested, and had some suggestions made, but those werent finished off, so it missed the feature freeze 05:29 jenkins_koha Starting build 226 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 05:29 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 2941 Transfers cannot be canceled once initiated <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=091cd69f44e871990d511917d4aa93960fea567f> 06:09 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #226: SUCCESS in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/226/ 06:09 jenkins_koha Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 2941 Transfers cannot be canceled once initiated 06:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2941 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED, Transfers cannot be canceled once initiated. 06:21 cait good morning #koha 07:05 rangi hi cait 07:06 rangi do you eat hot cross buns on easter friday in germany? 07:06 rangi because im still full from the ones i ate last night :) 07:07 rangi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_cross_bun 07:57 rangi wb cait 08:00 cait hi rangi 08:01 cait hm, we have some easter pastries and buns, but I don't know those 08:04 cait rangi: I used to bake easter lamps for my family, looking like these: http://www.hagenhoffmann.de/sonstiges/ostern/bildosterlamm2.jpg 08:04 cait lambs... not lamps 08:08 rangi mm lamb 08:08 kmkale :) 08:09 cait :) 10:22 cait @wunder Konstanz 10:22 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 19.5�C (12:20 PM CEST on April 23, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010.0 hPa (Steady). 10:57 druthb good day, #koha. 11:04 cait hi druthb :) 11:21 kmkale hi druthb :) 14:27 jcamins_away Anyone here know about OPAC item suppression? 15:54 * jcamins_away waves to cait 15:54 * cait waves back 17:03 druthb o/ 17:05 jcamins_away Hello. 17:07 * jcamins_away continues his battle with data corruption. 18:32 cait hi #koha 18:32 jcamins_away Hi cait. 18:32 cait hi jcamins_away :) 18:32 cait have you baked something for easter? 18:33 jcamins_away cait: I'm Jewish. ;) 18:33 cait oh 18:33 cait :) 18:34 jcamins_away Did you do any baking for Easter? 18:34 cait no 18:34 cait when I was living in Reutlingen I did 18:35 cait when I had a real oven! not this small something 18:35 cait :) 18:35 cait so nothing special on the menu today? you always produce so yummy sounding things 18:37 jcamins_away I might bake something, even though it's Passover. 18:38 cait Passover? 18:38 jcamins_away = Passah in German 18:39 jcamins_away = паÑха еврейÑÐºÐ°Ñ in Russian. 18:39 jcamins_away = פסח in Hebrew 18:40 jcamins_away = Pâque in French 18:40 * jcamins_away tries to think of the word in other languages 18:41 cait ah 18:41 cait pessach 18:42 jcamins_away Yup. :) 18:42 cait now that you remind me - the hfjs had closed all last week 18:45 jcamins_away I'm not surprised. 18:45 cait yep 18:52 cait I thought you ere asking about opac suppression? 18:52 cait saw... 18:52 jcamins_away I was, but I figured it out. 18:53 cait ok 18:54 cait opacsuppression or the new feature? 18:54 jcamins_away Opacsuppression. 18:55 jcamins_away Okay, I should eat some lunch now. 18:55 jcamins_away Back in a few. 18:55 cait ok 18:55 cait same here - but dinner 18:55 cait :) 19:02 cait hi magnuse :) 19:02 magnuse hiya cait 19:02 * magnuse is just dropping by 19:03 cait how is holidays? 19:04 magnuse very nice - nice ad quiet 19:04 magnuse and had some lovely weather today - sun and warmth and no wind! 19:04 cait :) 19:04 magnuse @wunder bodo, norway 19:04 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 9.0�C (8:50 PM CEST on April 23, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: -2.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). 19:04 cait very sunny here too 19:04 magnuse and you? 19:04 cait we need some rain though 19:04 cait @wunder Konstanz 19:04 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 20.0�C (9:00 PM CEST on April 23, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 22%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Rising). 19:04 magnuse oh wow! 19:05 cait yep 19:05 cait very warm april 19:06 * cait waves 19:06 magnuse o/ 19:07 magnuse we could use some of that heat - got a taste of it today :-) 19:08 magnuse hm, i find myself not quite understanding the translations - in Pootle nb-NO says 100% done for the 3.4 opac, but there are definitely strings in the 3.4 opac that are not translated... 19:09 cait yes 19:09 cait I think the files are probably not updated for TT 19:09 cait compare to the German opac file 19:10 magnuse you have 100% for opac, 60 for staff and 99 for sysprefs? 19:11 magnuse which is weird too - the staff translation for nb-NO has not been touched in a long while and it's at 75%, way more than your german? 19:11 cait hm 19:11 magnuse are you saying nb-NO are not updated for TT, or all of the langauages? 19:11 cait not sure about that 19:12 cait I uploaded the opac file myself 19:13 cait hm looks like that is an updated file 19:13 cait not sure if frederic only completed German 19:14 cait hm 19:14 cait my staff file is a lot bigger than yours 19:14 magnuse hm, i'll bug him about it after the holidays 19:14 magnuse ah, that would explain the lower percentage 19:15 magnuse you generated .po files yourself ad uploaded to pootle? 19:15 cait I did a lot of translation testing and rangi fixed a lot of things 19:16 cait to test it right I updated the files a lot and did a complete translation of opac 19:16 cait to check if everything gets translated 19:16 magnuse cait++ 19:16 magnuse :-) 19:17 druthb cait++ 19:17 cait args :) 19:17 cait @karma cait 19:17 huginn cait: Karma for "cait" has been increased 91 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 91. 19:18 cait you know, that's dangerous what you are doing there 19:18 druthb what...giving you credit for being awesome? 19:19 magnuse ye 19:19 magnuse yeah, give credit where credit is due, i say! 19:21 * cait hides and takes the cookies with her 19:21 druthb1 hee hee 19:22 magnuse hey druthb you got the replication working?!? ;-) 19:24 cait I hope she will share the secret with us 19:24 cait I could make great use of replicates right now 19:25 * magnuse has the image of the sorcerers apprentice from fantasia in his minds eye 19:25 cait hm 19:25 cait I thoroughly cleaned this place today 19:25 cait no water buckets! 19:26 magnuse yay! 19:29 druthb1 I thought I did, maybe, but apparently not. 19:29 cait oh... 19:36 * magnuse is off to watch Lewis - english crime investigations at it's best ;-) 19:36 magnuse sa ya later folks! 19:36 magnuse s/sa/see/ 19:36 cait cya 19:52 * jcamins_away curses 19:53 * jcamins_away curses more vigorously 19:54 * jcamins_away curses with shocking creativity 19:56 * druthb1 puts her hands over cait's ears. 19:57 cait huh? 19:57 * cait looks at your moving lips confusedly 19:58 jcamins_away My reindex went through 241000 of 120593 records, then threw an error. 19:59 druthb eeeewwww 20:00 * cait tries to read lips 20:06 jcamins_away Oh, mystery solved. 20:06 druthb ? 20:06 jcamins_away hardlinks. 20:06 jcamins_away Zebra read both exported_records files. 20:07 jcamins_away Even though they were identical. 20:07 druthb oh 20:17 jcamins_away GRS-1-- 20:23 * cait can't follow 20:23 cait cookie? 20:24 jcamins_away Please! 20:24 druthb making_jcamins_giggle++ 20:25 * cait sends jcamins a cookie 20:25 jcamins_away cait++ # for cookies 20:25 jcamins_away druthb++ # for saving me lots of puzzling 20:27 druthb :) 20:28 cait druthb++ 20:28 * druthb blushes 20:28 cait I think she beats cookies 20:28 * jcamins_away might need to make cookies, even though it's Passover. 20:30 * druthb blushes and hides. 20:30 jcamins_away Uhhh... where did the delete_records_without_items script come from? 20:30 jcamins_away Did I write that? 20:30 druthb possibly I did; I've used it several places. 20:31 cait druthb: don't say you are adapting my bad habits ;) 20:31 druthb I won't say it, then. 20:32 druthb jcamins_away: looking at the first few lines should show--unless you copied one of my scripts for its' DNA 20:32 jcamins_away That's why I'm confused... it's copyright ByWater, but it doesn't have your name, and it does have perldoc. 20:32 druthb then it's not me. 20:33 jcamins_away Probably not sekjal, either, based on the perldoc. 20:33 cait perldoc? 20:34 jcamins_away You know, inline documentation. 20:35 * druthb is REAL bad about not doing good docs. 20:37 * jcamins_away resists the urge to just try the MySQL-only solution. 20:37 jcamins_away SQL is more fun that Perl. 20:37 druthb to delete empty bibs? 20:38 jcamins_away No, that was an aside. 20:38 druthb oh, okay. 20:38 druthb 'bout to say--if you are gonna reindex anyway, the SQL answer works Just Fine. 20:40 jcamins_away Oh, for crying out loud! 20:40 jcamins_away "Error: Can't call method "raw" on an undefined value at /home/jcamins/kohaclone/C4/Search.pm line 450." 20:42 * druthb puts on the hazmat suit, and hands a spare to jcamins_away. 20:43 druthb if you're gonna be looking at Search.pm.... 20:43 cait lol 20:44 jcamins_away CURSE YOU, ZEBRA!!! 20:45 * jcamins_away reindexes again. 20:50 * druthb starts her Data Crunching playlist on iTunes. 20:50 * jcamins_away decides to print out a picture of a Zebra and fling darts at it. 20:50 jcamins_away Or possibly burn it in effigy. 20:51 jcamins_away I appreciate that most of our problems stem from poor configuration, but the absolute lack of useful diagnostic information, and the tendency to crash and burn, is definitely a fundamental design flaw. 20:58 druthb hi, space_librarian! :D 20:59 cait hi space_librarian 21:10 jcamins_away Does anyone happen to know if information about frameworks is stored anywhere other than marc_subfield_structure and marc_tag_structure? 21:11 jcamins_away And biblio_framework. 21:12 cait hm 21:12 cait seems a complete list tome 21:12 cait what are you missing? 21:12 jcamins_away I haven't tried it yet. 21:12 jcamins_away Just thought I'd check. 21:12 jcamins_away In case someone knew something I didn't. 21:12 cait should be all 21:16 cait hm 21:17 jcamins_away Well, that seems to work. 21:19 cait I truncate them all when I load german frameworks 21:19 cait works perfectly 21:25 * druthb hands cait the Velcro 21:25 cait thx :) 21:30 jcamins_away Okay, it has reindexed. 21:30 jcamins_away Except it's not done. 21:31 jcamins_away Grr. 21:34 jcamins_away Well, it's doing something. 21:34 jcamins_away That's progress. 21:34 jcamins_away Apparently disabling shadow indexing doesn't actually disable shadow indexing. 21:35 pianohacker Hello 21:36 jcamins_away Hello. 21:36 jcamins_away Could updating the register from the shadow take any longer? 21:38 jcamins_away It's done! 21:39 jcamins_away pianohacker: how's your semester going? 21:39 cait hi pianohacker :) 21:39 * druthb waves to pianohacker. 21:39 pianohacker Very busy, as it's finally ending 21:39 pianohacker Hi cait, druthb 21:39 pianohacker Lots of tests and projects and papers due 21:39 pianohacker But soon it will be over, glory hallelujah 21:40 pianohacker How are you guys? 21:40 jcamins_away :) 21:40 * jcamins_away has five papers to write, though only one is due next week. 21:41 jcamins_away (so I can sympathize) 21:43 cait only a presentation 21:44 * cait imagines having to write 5 papers and shuders 21:47 * druthb is working on two new Koha libraries, plus one more for mid-week...and a presentation that's a bit more than a week away. 21:49 * jcamins_away swears off of JOIN USING () 21:50 cait jcamins: I am a little worried about you 21:50 jcamins_away cait: why? 21:51 cait lots of -- and swearing and cursing today 21:51 * jcamins_away is not having a very good day. 21:51 jcamins_away He has been trying to reindex a 120k-record install for 10 hours. 21:52 cait hmwaht about taking a break, rethink your problem and bake cookies? ;) 21:52 jcamins_away Well, more, if you count the fact that I spent four hours on it yesterday, and I have tried reindexing it every day since Tuesday. 21:53 pianohacker What's wrong with it? 21:53 jcamins_away pianohacker: a whole slew of things. 21:54 jcamins_away First there were 8 corrupted records. 21:54 jcamins_away Then the system stopped booting. 21:55 jcamins_away Then the indexer refused to behave. 21:55 pianohacker Oi. How did they get corrupted? 21:55 pianohacker well, zebraidx is always a pain 21:55 jcamins_away Unfortunately, I have no idea. 21:56 jcamins_away Well, two of them were caused by UTF-8 in the call numbers. 21:56 jcamins_away The other 6? No idea. 21:57 pianohacker Unicode call numbers? That's bizarre 21:58 jcamins_away Yep. 21:58 cait why? 21:58 jcamins_away I think they copy-pasted the title into the call number field. 21:58 * cait have seen umlauts in callnumbers a lot 21:58 cait has.. 21:59 pianohacker I think they're usually restricted to ASCII, especially in the states, though Ãœ makes sense in germany 22:00 cait jcamins: but I think koha can handle that - utf-8 in callnumbers? 22:02 jcamins_away cait: It's supposed to be able to.