IRC log for #koha, 2011-04-22

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Time S Nick Message
00:02 rangi yes filter is broken for me too
00:02 rangi will look into the code tha generates it now
00:04 cait hm, seems both use a function from c4?
00:05 rangi my %supplierlist = GetBooksellersWithLateOrders($delay);
00:05 rangi i thik its only getting ones that do have late orders?
00:06 cait hm
00:06 cait but if it does that
00:06 cait it dos not mach
00:06 cait if a search with delay 0 will bring up orders - it shoudl bring up the vendortoo?
00:06 cait fill the list I mean with the vendors in my search results
00:06 cait perhaps it's one day off?
00:07 rangi could be lemme check the actual code
00:09 cait ok - the list in serials will only work when you have a vendor with  a missing or late issue
00:09 cait so only acq remains
00:09 rangi ELECT DISTINCT aqbasket.booksellerid,                                                            FROM aqorders LEFT JOIN aqbasket ON aqorders.basketno=aqbasket.basketno                                                 LEFT JOIN aqbooksellers ON aqbasket.booksellerid =
00:09 rangi WHERE (closdate < DATE_SUB(CURDATE( ),INTERVAEL $delay DAY)                                                             AND (datereceived = '' OR datereceived IS NULL))
00:10 rangi i hate that query
00:10 rangi but thats what it does currently
00:10 cait ugh
00:10 rangi so you need to have closed an order
00:10 rangi try that
00:10 rangi also INTERVAEL
00:10 cait I have to closed baskets?
00:10 rangi thats not gonna work
00:10 cait s/to/2
00:10 rangi ahh that was a paste ting
00:10 rangi yeah, try closing one
00:11 rangi see if that makes it show up
00:11 cait what do you mean by closing?
00:11 cait my baskets are closed
00:11 rangi hmm
00:11 cait hm... perhaps close the group too?
00:11 rangi actually in the db
00:11 rangi can you change the closedate to last year
00:11 cait but that would mean that libraries leaving them open cannever use late orders?
00:12 rangi yes, it seems like a bug to me
00:12 rangi but not a new one i dont think
00:13 rangi definitely nice to fix, maybe for 3.4.1
00:13 cait hm k
00:15 cait ok
00:15 cait I closed the basket after midnight
00:15 rangi ahh yeah that would do it
00:15 cait created it before, but basket groups was almost the last thing I tested
00:15 rangi you should be abble to change it in the db
00:16 cait yep. that's it
00:16 rangi update table aqbasket set closedate = '2010-10-10';
00:16 rangi cool
00:16 rangi lemme check the serials now
00:16 cait no, that's ok too - see above
00:16 cait it requires late or missing issues
00:16 cait :)
00:16 cait so both mysteries are solved
00:16 rangi ah ha
00:16 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #221: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/221/
00:16 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Fixing typo in the release notes
00:16 rangi yay
00:17 cait oh
00:17 cait ok
00:17 cait a last one
00:17 cait my budget table has vanished again
00:18 rangi thats weird alright
00:18 cait and can't edit or delete my funds
00:18 cait I am not superlibrarian but have all acq permissions
00:18 cait and I am not kohaadmin
00:19 cait ok
00:19 cait kohaadmin can see the table and edit the funds
00:20 rangi i think its to do with the owner?
00:20 cait hm, but they are not owned
00:20 cait not restricted in any way
00:21 rangi hmm made by your superlibrarian or made by kohaadmin?
00:21 cait checking next
00:22 cait superlibraian permission  gives me the edit links for funds but the table is still missing
00:23 cait I changed the budget_owner id to 1
00:24 cait my admin user, didn't change
00:25 rangi hmmm
00:25 rangi i have a suspiciion
00:26 rangi hmm no thats wrong
00:27 rangi table is showing for me
00:28 cait hm.
00:29 cait I have one active budget and  2 funds - no restriction no owner and no library
00:30 rangi confusing
00:30 cait hm ok
00:31 cait it seems you have to select a library
00:31 cait that seems wrong to me when the budget is not restricted to the library
00:32 cait it's ok
00:32 cait I will think more about it - but I can mak ethem show up
00:33 rangi right
00:35 cait when do you commit the trnaslations?
00:37 rangi lemme check if frederic has pushed them up
00:38 rangi nope not yet
00:38 cait thinking about uploading my opac file
00:39 rangi id do it
00:39 rangi he hasnt committed them to to a branch yet for me to pull
00:39 rangi so if you do that, they should be in there
00:40 cait hm ok, feeling brave
00:43 cait merge working?
00:44 cait or better overwrite
00:46 rangi overwrite i think
00:47 cait ... overwriting
00:49 cait hm
00:49 cait looks like it worked
00:49 cait :)
00:49 cait time to brush teeth and get ready to sleep
00:50 rangi sleep well, thanks for all your help
00:53 druthb cait++
00:53 cait thx for all your work rangi
00:53 cait rangi++
00:53 druthb rangi++
00:53 cait and even more because you taught me most things!
00:59 cait rangi?
00:59 wahanui rangi is, like, a proud Māori whose sense of humour matches his prowess in coding
01:01 rangi who did tha?
01:01 rangi t
01:02 cait not me
01:02 * wizzyrea_away is not it
01:02 cait prowess is not in my active vocabulary
01:02 rangi heh
01:02 cait nor in the inactive
01:03 cait given that... I have a suspicion
01:04 cait wizzyrea?
01:04 wahanui wizzyrea is, like, a wonderful mother, colleague, and friend. or a koha poet
01:04 cait :)
01:04 * wizzyrea_away looks vaguely in the direction of DC
01:04 wizzyrea_away i'm honored that someone thought it apt to make that my description
01:05 wizzyrea_away as any parent does, I do the best I can :P
01:15 druthb :)
01:15 druthb rangi, I suspect Brooke_
01:16 druthb Certainly I suspect her on my description.
01:16 druthb druthb?
01:16 wahanui you are one fine number in a skirt.
01:16 wizzyrea_away whoever it was speaks only truth ;)
01:17 druthb I am *soooo* torn over what to wear to KUDOS, wizzy..  sheesh.
01:18 cait one fine number sounds def like Brooke_
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01:18 cait and prowess too
01:20 druthb hm.
01:20 druthb kf?
01:20 wahanui well, kf is the kind of person that will brighten everyone's day.
01:20 druthb cait?
01:20 wahanui i heard cait was a competent programmer AND really sweet.
01:20 cait wahanui botsnack cookie
01:20 wahanui :)
01:20 cait he only says that because I feed him so many cookies :)
01:21 druthb brendan_?
01:21 wahanui brendan_ is a big fan of koha or the best boss evar!
01:21 druthb tee hee
01:22 cait sekjal?
01:22 wahanui sekjal is a wonderful geek.
01:22 rangi yeah
01:22 druthb :D
01:22 rangi cait: are you still brushing your teeth???
01:22 cait no
01:23 rangi sleep!
01:23 cait closing all those windows on my computer
01:23 rangi :)
01:23 gmcharlt cait++
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01:24 druthb wahanui: Brooke_?
01:24 wahanui Brooke_ is the best dinner companion a girl could want.
01:29 jenkins_koha Starting build 222 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
01:32 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bumping version number for release <[…]2e0b8ff73dd60943e>
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01:35 druthb rangi, congratulations.  :)
01:35 cait1 ?
01:35 rangi still getting ready
01:35 * cait1 is excited
01:35 rangi but yeah im at the time to stop poking at it point
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01:39 * druthb waves
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01:52 * cait1 waves
01:53 cait1 really tired now
01:53 cait1 bye rangi
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02:08 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #222: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/222/
02:08 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Bumping version number for release
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02:13 gmcharlt jenkins is happy
02:15 rangi yep tis a good sign
02:24 rangi
02:24 rangi pretty much ready to go, just need the .po files
02:26 gmcharlt rangi: want typo corrections for the release notes?
02:26 rangi yes please
02:26 gmcharlt s/one off/one-off/
02:27 gmcharlt s/Notify of fines owing/Notification of fines owed/
02:28 gmcharlt s/when an staff/when a staff/
02:28 gmcharlt ...
02:28 * brendan_ will look it over too :)
02:28 gmcharlt would you rather I just sent a patch? :)
02:28 rangi gmcharlt: actutaly yeah :-)
02:28 rangi thanks brendan_
02:28 gmcharlt sec
02:31 brendan_ line 90 - (a space is needed here -->) phone,address
02:32 gmcharlt got it
02:33 brendan_ same thing here line 113 --> the'My Summary'
02:33 gmcharlt got it
02:33 brendan_ heh should we comment on the differences between 's' and 'z' ;)
02:34 gmcharlt let's not be ugly Americans now ;)
02:34 brendan_ "SQL is formatted much more nicely when viewing a report" line 129
02:34 brendan_ maybe something else besides much more
02:35 brendan_ how about SQL formatting improvements when viewing a report?
02:35 gmcharlt sounds good
02:38 brendan_ I like that it reads D Ruth now :)
02:38 gmcharlt :)
02:38 brendan_ line 399 --> please send patch against
02:38 brendan_ maybe an 'a' in there
02:38 gmcharlt got it
02:39 brendan_ Looks good :)
02:40 gmcharlt rangi: patch sent
02:40 rangi thanks
02:44 jenkins_koha Starting build 223 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
02:44 gmcharlt heh
02:45 rangi if this patch breaks it ... :)
02:45 gmcharlt jenkins_koha: I don't think you need be *that* worried about changes to the release notes.  I promise I didn't slip in any blockers
02:45 jenkins_koha gmcharlt did you mean me? Unknown command 'I'
02:45 jenkins_koha Use !jenkinshelp to get help!
02:45 wizzyrea_away you didnt delete any Data::Dumper's?
02:45 rangi heh
02:45 gmcharlt you wound me, madam
02:45 gmcharlt ;)
02:46 wizzyrea_away :)
02:46 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: textual improvements to release notes <[…]3827c5139e0c82e53>
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03:06 kmkale Namaskar #koha
03:06 rangi hi kmkale
03:09 kmkale hi rangi
03:09 kmkale holiday today?
03:10 rangi technically :)
03:10 kmkale yep. same here ;)
03:14 kmkale rangi: is there some material I can read about CAS with koha?
03:15 kmkale I have got a CAS server running.
03:15 rangi probably best to talk to the biblibre people
03:15 kmkale but when I try koha cas auth I get CAS is unavailable
03:18 rangi ive never tried it
03:20 kmkale inconsistent behaviour. Now I am getting Sorry, the CAS login failed. but in the cas debug log I can see the auth was successful and that both the SGT and ST tickets were created :(
03:20 kmkale s/SGT/TGT/
03:22 rangi what version of koha?
03:22 rangi i know biblibre did some fixes/enhancements for 3.4
03:23 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #223: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/223/
03:23 jenkins_koha Galen Charlton: textual improvements to release notes
03:24 kmkale
03:25 rangi ahh they didnt get signed off
03:25 rangi[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6012
03:25 huginn Bug 6012: enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, matthias.meusburger, ASSIGNED, Set up a working example of a CAS proxy
03:26 rangi checkout the patch there, it might help
03:26 kmkale thanks rangi
03:27 rangi[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5630
03:27 huginn Bug 5630: enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED, CAS improvements
03:27 rangi maybe that one too
03:32 kmkale rangi: is[…]=3813&action=diff this a coombined patch of the propposed patches in 5630?
03:34 rangi not sure
03:34 kmkale k
03:35 rangi doesnt look like it
03:35 rangi it looks like you need to apply all of them in sequence
03:37 kmkale whoa I just logged out of the staff interface and got to CAS logout successful page
03:38 kmkale now if only it can login ;)
03:39 kmkale CAS works for staff interface too?
03:40 rangi never tried it
03:41 kmkale good fun for the long weekend ;)
03:54 * kmkale is confused about this statement in the wiki "Note: simple sso cas support (no proxy) has been done already by biblibre, is in testing and should be released in Koha 3.2"
03:55 rangi yes you will need to talk to them about how to do it
04:05 kmkale yep
04:05 kmkale lets hope they come in today
04:08 rangi probably emailing the koha-devel list is the easiest way
04:09 * jcamins_away peeks in. Exciting times.
04:09 rangi hey jcamins_away
04:09 rangi i had a question for you
04:09 jcamins_away Oh?
04:09 rangi you did some work letting zebra hand back xml? or am i imagining that?
04:10 jcamins_away Imagining it.
04:10 jcamins_away Sorry.
04:10 rangi dang
04:10 jcamins_away That'd be really useful, though.
04:10 rangi yep
04:10 * jcamins_away 's goal for 3.6 is getting DOM indexing for MARC21 biblios.
04:11 rangi cool
04:11 rangi thatd be good
04:12 jcamins_away Especially for people who want to be able to search for books printed by a particular individual.
04:12 * jcamins_away looks around... oh, I guess that's just me.
04:13 jcamins_away Well, I _really_ want to be able to do that, anyway.
04:13 jcamins_away So we're at, what, T-4?
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04:14 Oak \o
04:14 rangi yep
04:15 rangi just gotta get the updated po files everything else is ready to g
04:15 rangi o
04:17 Oak :
04:17 Oak )
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04:33 rangi bbiab
04:33 jcamins_away Okay, reindex is a go, and now it is time to sleep.
04:33 jcamins_away Good night, #koha
04:34 jcamins_away And happy 3.4 (in advance)!
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04:59 Brooke_ kia ora!
05:02 rangi hi Brooke_
05:03 * Brooke_ salutes Rangi
05:21 kmkale rangi: YAH!! Just changed cas server url from https port 8443 to http & port 8180 and we are in business.
05:22 rangi sweet
05:22 rangi now we just have to fix that
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05:35 rangi hi hdl, you are are awake early
05:35 hdl in fact i am at my computer early... ususally awake at 7.30 ;)
05:38 rangi ahh the time change confused me i thought it was only 6.30 :)
05:39 hdl I am awakening at 6.30 usually
05:40 rangi ahh
05:42 Brooke_ bonjour
05:42 wahanui bonjour, Brooke_
05:52 hdl rangi: have you made some tests on big records ?
05:52 hdl Is it showing ok at search results ?
05:52 hdl where is your biblionumber placed ?
05:52 hdl big records, i mean more than 1000 items;
05:53 wizzyrea_away biggest I looked at was about 100
05:53 Brooke_ you're not very away :P
05:54 wizzyrea_away oh I am :P
05:54 hdl with periodicals, you may have those figures.
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06:21 * cait stumbles in
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06:21 cait morning :)
06:21 Brooke_ guten tag
06:21 wizzyrea_away oh my! you are up so soon?
06:21 kmkale_ is now known as kmkale
06:22 kmkale hi cait
06:22 cait it's the time I normally leave to work
06:22 cait woke up
06:22 cait hi kmkale :)
06:24 rangi hi cait
06:24 cait hi rangi :)
06:24 cait how is it going?
06:25 rangi good
06:25 rangi is back, thanks to wizzyrea_away and her super effort
06:25 cait did she have to move it or is ec2 alive again?
06:26 Brooke_ wizzyrea ++
06:27 cait ah I see
06:27 rangi most of it is alive again afaict
06:27 Brooke_ sleepy time at last.
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06:27 alex_a hello #koha
06:27 rangi hi alex_a
06:27 wizzyrea_away most of it is alive, but I actually rebuilt it from backups
06:27 wizzyrea_away teh original server is still dead
06:31 cait wizzyrea++
06:31 cait hi alex_a
06:31 wizzyrea_away psh its my job, but thx
06:31 cait a lotof people around for a holiday :)
06:32 rangi fredericd: around?
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06:48 cait hm closed wrong window
06:48 wizzyrea_away you are sleepy ;)
06:52 rangi heh
06:52 cait hm...
06:52 cait denying will probably not work
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06:55 julian hi #koha
06:57 rangi hi julian
06:58 * cait waves to julian
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07:08 ibeardslee ahh found it again
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07:22 fredericd rangi: yes
07:23 rangi ahh cool, would you ahve time to push up the .po files for 3.4
07:23 fredericd yes
07:23 fredericd is it save to update .po files to TT now?
07:23 fredericd safe
07:24 rangi yup
07:24 fredericd Ok. Si I will get .po files from Pootle, update them to TT, push them on a branch, and send them back to Pootle
07:24 rangi excellent
07:25 rangi cait has updated the german opac one already but the rest arent
07:25 rangi thank you
07:25 rangi i have this note in the release announcement too
07:26 rangi These changes, in addition to the inclusion of many new features, mean a lot of new strings for translators to translate.
07:26 rangi For these reasons we recommend that people who are already running Koha in
07:26 rangi production delay their upgrade until 3.4.1, due May 22, to give the translators
07:26 rangi time to finish, and for the removing of item data to be streamlined. If you do wish to upgrade please make sure you read the UPGRADE section of the INSTALL document.
07:27 rangi (new installs are fine)
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07:30 francharb h i all
07:30 rangi hi francharb
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09:30 rangi thanks fredericd
09:35 fredericd it's a huge commit because any language that have ever entered Koha repo has been updated. Next time, I will only pull updated languages by translators
09:39 rangi *nod*
09:55 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Update ALL Koha translation files <[…]cef39d27d78ae8de6>
09:59 jenkins_koha Starting build 224 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
10:02 rangi right, tarball built and signed, uploading now
10:14 rangi and its out
10:16 cait whoohoo :)
10:16 rangi thanks everyone for all your hard work
10:17 cait rangi++
10:20 cait noone else here for the party?
10:23 cait hm
10:24 francharb \0/ party time cait! party time!
10:24 francharb ;)
10:24 cait hehe
10:24 * cait shares some chocolate with francharb and rangi
10:24 francharb yummy
10:24 francharb ;)
10:29 cait hehe, most normal thing of the world - once something is out in the world, you start seeing the typos
10:30 rangi in the release notes?
10:30 rangi heh, at least 6 people all missed that :)
10:31 cait yep
10:31 cait it's magic
10:31 rangi[…]d27d78ae8de6#l113
10:31 rangi 3.2.0 too :-)
10:31 rangi its a trend
10:33 cait lol
10:33 cait in a few years, everybody will spell it like that
10:34 rangi heh
10:35 cait and I think there will be at least one very obvious bug too
10:35 rangi there always is
10:35 cait right :)
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10:35 cait hi druthb :)
10:35 druthb hi
10:36 * cait offers you some release party chocolate
10:36 cait rangi: do I have to count or can you tell me how many different names are on that contributurs list? :)
10:36 * druthb nibbles on chocolate
10:38 rangi hm i worked it out the other day
10:38 rangi 2 secs
10:38 cait yay - before yesterday ohloh said 99 - now 111 :D
10:38 cait commits, but cool numbers
10:39 rangi 66
10:39 cait honestly?
10:39 rangi 66 people yes
10:39 cait wow
10:39 rangi you have 81 commits in 3.4
10:39 rangi .0
10:39 cait that's a lot
10:39 rangi alex_a has 19
10:40 rangi 10 for druthb
10:40 kmkale rangi: crongats
10:40 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #224: SUCCESS in 41 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/224/
10:40 jenkins_koha Frédéric Demians: Update ALL Koha translation files
10:40 rangi 5 for you kmkale
10:40 * cait hands kmkale some chocolate too
10:40 kmkale what chocolates?
10:40 druthb 10?   wow.  :)  I didn't realize I'd done that many.
10:40 kmkale aahh commits
10:40 cait yummy chocolate
10:41 kmkale :)
10:41 kmkale I wish I could jave gotten the local images thingi in
10:41 cait submit it tomorrow for 3.2.6 :)
10:42 cait it will be here much sooner that we all think
10:42 kmkale not ready for prime time yet. Also tyhe customer has not yet given the go ahead :(
10:42 adnc I'm using z39.50 servers from this site[…]nuary/000259.html normally it works great, but sometimes i get a system error reply when doing a search. could someone please have a look into this list and tell me if there is something missing?
10:43 cait hm, could be a problem with your target
10:43 adnc you mean with the servers?
10:44 rangi kmkale: we write the contracts so that isnt an issue
10:44 rangi you pay us to do work, we release it
10:44 rangi thats the deal :)
10:45 kmkale I know, but its really raw yet. Works but raw stuff. Since the customer is sitting on the beta still, I never went back and readied it :(
10:45 cait adnc:[…]r%3A210%2FINNOPAC
10:45 rangi oleonard has 188!
10:45 cait hehe
10:45 cait no surprise
10:45 cait he is very leistungsfähig ;)
10:46 adnc cait, ohh I know this site. I use MARC21 which is not listed there
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10:46 alex_a rangi: 19 for me \o/
10:46 adnc the only information I'm missing is encoding, it works with marc-8
10:46 alex_a is there a ranking ?
10:46 cait adnc: you are right, - missed that
10:47 adnc cait, thanks anyway. it works most of the time
10:50 * druthb sends "leistungsfähig" to for translation, and nods in agreement.
10:52 rangi
10:52 rangi (set the browser encoding to utf8 or it messes up the diacritics)
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10:59 cait rangi++
10:59 cait can't say that often enough
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11:10 cait hi magnuse
11:10 magnuse 3.4 - woohoo!
11:10 magnuse hiya cait and #koha
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11:11 cait morning jwagner
11:12 jwagner morning, cait
11:15 magnuse hiya jwagner
11:16 jwagner Hi magnuse
11:16 magnuse rangi++
11:16 magnuse almost forgot that...
11:17 hdl rangi++
11:17 cait bonjour hdl :)
11:18 cait rangi: what happens to the bugs now?
11:18 cait marking them closed now after an additional testing round?
11:19 magnuse cait: that sounds like a good idea
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11:25 magnuse and what about the 58 bugs that need signoff for rel_3_4 - should they be moved to rel_3_6?
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11:27 cait hi nengard
11:27 nengard hiya
11:27 cait come and eat chocolate with us ;)
11:27 adnc I'm inserting into my DB with this command a marc field translations file mysql -u root -p koha_kutuphane < marc21_framework_DEFAULT.sq
11:28 adnc unfortunately the umlautes do get corrupt
11:28 adnc is there anything I can do to avoid this
11:29 hdl --default-character-set=utf-8
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11:31 cait hi paul_p
11:31 adnc ahh
11:31 adnc thanks hdl
11:33 adnc yep, that did work
11:38 magnuse hiya nengard and paul_p
11:51 kmkale hdl I have CAS authentication working in Koha 3.2.6. Can you tell me how to get Single Sign On working in Koha?
11:51 hdl kmkale: there is documentation for that in iirc
11:52 * kmkale is looking
11:56 kmkale hdl: Nope. No documentation in
11:58 hdl kmkale: sorry : documentation is here docs/CAS/
11:59 kmkale I just need to understand how SSO supposed to work. If a user is authenticated by another application using the same CAS service and s/he comes to Koha should s/he have to login again? If not how can that be acchieved?
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12:01 hdl kmkale: no he doesnot have to. look at the documentation for CAS Proxy
12:01 kmkale is CAS Proxy necessary to get SSO? SSO not possible with normal CAS Auth?
12:02 hdl Koha uses his/her CAS Ticket and logs him in.
12:02 hdl kmkale: they have it live in Lyon3 for a year now.
12:04 hdl users log in to their ENT and then when they gets on a koha page, their CAS Ticket comes and Koha uses that to create a session
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12:04 kmkale hdl: I am using 3.2.6. Which patches are must for CAS based SSO? bug 6012, bug 5630 ?
12:04 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6012 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, matthias.meusburger, ASSIGNED, Set up a working example of a CAS proxy
12:04 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5630 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED, CAS improvements
12:04 hdl kmkale: I am not really the one who developped CAS But it works.
12:05 kmkale hdl: is there a special link we have to use to land in Koha? which has the ticket as a parameter?
12:08 hdl kmkale: I think so.
12:09 hdl You should read 5630 and 6012 files... And[…]y+CAS+Walkthrough
12:09 hdl To have more insight of how it should be done.
12:09 kmkale hdl: did. :)
12:10 kmkale hdl: I am still confused about the SSO part
12:12 hdl I will ask matts to come or get in contact with you.
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12:12 hdl (matts developped the stuff and know more about CAS than I)
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12:12 kmkale thanks hdl. Whats his irc id?
12:13 hdl matts is his nick
12:13 hdl matthias his surname
12:13 kmkale great. Will ask him. Either here or on the list :)
12:13 oleonard Congratulations and thanks to all who worked late last night
12:14 cait hi oleonard :)
12:15 Irma Congratulations from us @ CALYX!
12:16 Irma Great Easter present to libraries around the world!
12:17 cait hi Irma :)
12:17 Irma Hi cait :-)
12:18 cait how are you Irma?
12:18 Irma Really well now and with new clients on boards, have a lot to do witch is great....
12:18 Irma You?
12:18 wahanui You are right
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12:20 cait all is good :)
12:22 magnuse g'day Irma!
12:27 nengard Looks like open source and koha were mentioned at the sirsi conference
12:27 nengard!/search/cosugi11%20koha
12:27 nengard!/search/c[…]1%20open%20source
12:28 Irma cait hi there magnuse :-)
12:28 Irma hi all
12:29 Irma although late we are actually working so I am a bit distracted
12:31 magnuse hehe, time for a little bit of holiday soon, maybe? ;-)
12:38 Irma magnuse yep tomorrow and Sunday ...
12:41 oleonard chris_n around?
12:43 oleonard @later tell chris_n Can't figure out why that marc_subfield_structure patch won't apply for you.
12:43 huginn oleonard: The operation succeeded.
12:45 kmkale bye all. Have a great weekend :)
12:45 magnuse the .po files were not renamed to anything with 4 in them aftr all? or will that be done for 3.4.1?
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13:03 magnuse hiya sekjal
13:03 sekjal hi, magnuse!
13:04 oleonard Many thanks to sekjal and nengard for getting our passwords re-secured yesterday
13:04 oleonard I feel much more comfortable knowing that's taken care of
13:04 nengard :)
13:04 nengard no prob
13:05 sekjal gladly
13:05 cait nengard: how did you do it?
13:05 cait or sekjal
13:05 nengard nothing special
13:06 cait this is about the ! right?
13:06 nengard just wiped out the defaults so there was no password
13:06 nengard yes
13:06 sekjal if you manually set the password in the DB to either NULL or '', it prevents login, but still allows the storage of a userid
13:07 cait cool, thx
13:18 oleonard Friday + 3.4 release hangovers = quiet day in #koha
13:19 magnuse and a holiday in many parts of the world...
13:19 oleonard Here too for some, just depends on your employer
13:20 nengard patron import question ... can we set the default messaging preferences for a patron using the import tool?
13:20 nengard I don't see the option in the CSV file or the tool page
13:23 cait nengard: no not yet, but I think there might be a command line script
13:23 nengard k
13:23 cait and it will take your settings from the patron category
13:24 nengard submitting an enhancement
13:24 nengard oh right that was a 3.4 patch right?
13:24 cait the script I think yes
13:24 cait it took the settings from the beginning I thin
13:24 cait but I forgot to configure that a couple of times
13:30 nengard so the command line does it, but not the tool in koha
13:33 cait hm?
13:33 gmcharlt good morning
13:35 jwagner morning, gmcharlt
13:36 nengard well i've reported an enhancement bug 6252
13:36 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6252 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Patron import tool should let you set messaging preferences
13:36 nengard cait feel free to update it if i'm wrong
13:37 cait hm
13:37 cait I think there is a separate scirpt for updating messaging preferences nt related to the import really
13:38 cait and if you have messaging preferences set for the imported patron category - those will be set
13:38 gmcharlt both true
13:38 wizzyrea there was aonther thing with patron import
13:39 wizzyrea trivial, debatable thing
13:39 wizzyrea where the labels for the fields are their field names, and not their english names
13:39 gmcharlt but on  other hand, being able to tweak the messaging settings directly at the point of import to use something other than the patron category defaults
13:39 gmcharlt would have its uses
13:39 cait would be nice :)
13:39 cait right
13:40 cait but until then - it's nice to have some possibilites to achieve what you want to do :)
13:40 gmcharlt wizzyrea: internationalize the patron import header, you mean?
13:40 cait hm
13:40 wizzyrea sec
13:40 wizzyrea pic
13:41 magnuse see you later #koha!
13:41 cait not sure that is worth the trouble
13:41 cait bye magnuse
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13:41 wizzyrea it takes 2 sec ;)
13:41 gmcharlt tick-tock-tick-tock ;)
13:42 wizzyrea ok a little more than 2
13:42 wizzyrea but only bc I made a note on it :P
13:42 wizzyrea
13:42 cait hm I think the list is generated
13:42 wizzyrea now I understand there's an argument here to be made that the csv requires those specific names
13:42 wizzyrea so why not match them
13:43 wizzyrea this is what happens when you let me poke at thing!
13:43 wizzyrea s/thing/things
13:43 gmcharlt wizzyrea: ah, I see
13:43 gmcharlt adding a translation of the descriptoin of the field label woudl make sense
13:44 gmcharlt as along as the column name was also listed, since that's what's needed in the CSV file header
13:44 wizzyrea and mostly they're self explanatory, until you get to things like b_address
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13:45 gmcharlt (not that one could *also* i18n-ize the header line, but that's much more debatable - would make the file format for languages other than en subject to the whims of the translators)
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13:46 gmcharlt or more precisely, the *changing* whims, as it were
13:46 gmcharlt I haven't had my tea yet - am I making sense?
13:47 wizzyrea I think so
13:47 wizzyrea i'm only talking about the human readability of the labels on those fields
13:47 wizzyrea go have your tea :)
13:47 nengard sorry - was testing something .. I want to be able to import patrons with messaging preferences as a column .. like the patron attributes - that's what I was saying
13:47 nengard good to know that defaults will be set though
13:47 gmcharlt Right, so for es-ES
13:47 gmcharlt Apellido (surname)
13:47 gmcharlt etc.
13:47 wizzyrea yea, exactly
13:48 gmcharlt nengard: right - so you can work around it now, but I also agree that your proposal would be useful
13:50 gmcharlt wizzyrea: of course, to actually do that would end up being a bigger project, but one that would have other i18n benefits: namely, making it possible to translate the names of database columns
13:50 gmcharlt where "names" could equal both "names" and "capsule descriptions" that can be used in other parts of the UI
13:51 cait like reports
13:51 gmcharlt exactly
13:51 cait I think there was an attempt to do that
13:51 cait but seems not maintained
13:51 cait columns.defs
13:52 gmcharlt cait: right, and that might be a starting-off point
13:52 cait I think it's used in the guided reports
13:53 gmcharlt yes, it is
13:54 gmcharlt but doesn't look like it's hooked up to the translation system
13:55 cait right
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13:57 gmcharlt heh
13:57 gmcharlt sorry cait, of course you've already thought of all this
13:57 gmcharlt @bug 5482
13:57 huginn gmcharlt: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5482 normal, P5, ---, chris, NEW, Translation problem in guided reports - Item field names
13:58 wizzyrea oy that's a much bigger problem
13:58 cait o
13:58 cait h
13:58 cait totally forgot that I wrote that
13:59 cait I like the spystatus
14:00 * cait is a little confused now
14:00 cait time to grab something to eat
14:08 nengard how do i edit the release notes? we forgot a library that sponsored a dev
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14:12 gmcharlt nengard: you can just send a patch, and I can edit rangi's post on the website
14:12 gmcharlt who is the library?
14:12 wahanui the library is asking for the renewal to be from last expiry date of the patron by default
14:12 gmcharlt wahanui: forget the library
14:12 wahanui gmcharlt: I forgot library
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14:12 gmcharlt (I feel slightly dirty doing that just now, libraries shouldn't be forgotten!)
14:12 nengard thanks gmcharlt
14:13 nengard patch sent
14:14 tcohen koha++
14:17 gmcharlt nengard: post updated
14:17 nengard Thanks! Sorry we missed them :( glad it's fixed
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14:25 gmcharlt who is running 3.4.0 (or almost-3.4.0) now?
14:26 wizzyrea we are running something back in the 30's
14:26 wizzyrea it's pre TT
14:29 cait I think magnuse wanted to update his demo
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14:36 cait our libraries are on 3.2.2
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15:51 wizzyrea is anybody (besides ptfs... I know they have this) working on being able to edit circ rules?
15:52 wizzyrea instead of delete/recreate?
15:52 gmcharlt could have sworn there was an ajax-y patch for that floating around
15:52 gmcharlt maybe in one of the biblibre branches?
15:52 wizzyrea oh that could be
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15:58 nengard wizzyrea gmcharlt biblibre has work on that
15:58 nengard and it looked slick!
15:58 nengard just didn't make it in to 3.4
15:58 wizzyrea aha
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15:58 wizzyrea I thought someone else had done it
15:58 nengard :)
15:58 wizzyrea thx :)
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16:54 fcapo Hello, I had some indexation problems and I notice something : the default record.abs file seems to be configured incorrectly.
16:55 fcapo there are fields defined two times, and the order the fields are declared might be incorrect.
16:55 fcapo see http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.[…]er-td3072197.html
16:57 fcapo Many time, I got authorities that showed they were linked to 0 biblios while they were actually linked to some biblios.
16:58 fcapo It was because the field 710$9 was never indexed because it was placed after 710 in the record.abs file
17:00 fcapo The field 710 is also declared twice in record.abs, which seems wrong to me
17:01 fcapo Just want to know if there was some recent attempts at correcting record.abs
17:06 fcapo Ugh... seems I chose the wrong day to speak. I'll post a bug report.
17:07 wizzyrea everybody was up late getting the release done
17:07 wizzyrea plus it's a holiday
17:07 wizzyrea plus fridays are always a bit slim around here, because it's saturday in half the world.
17:07 fcapo yea, didn't realise that, I'm still working today :P
17:07 wizzyrea me too :)
17:07 wizzyrea but I can't answer your questions :/
17:08 fcapo ok, no problems, like I said, I'll post a bug report and see what happens.
17:08 wizzyrea :) always a good course of action
17:08 wizzyrea that way you can always just pop in and reference your bug
17:09 fcapo true
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17:18 nengard i think i found a bug but could use some confirmation ...
17:18 nengard i'm trying to import a csv
17:18 nengard of patrons
17:18 nengard I downloaded the one from the page in Koha and filled in the fields
17:18 nengard same thing I've done many times before, but this time I got a head row error
17:19 nengard found the bug
17:19 nengard you can't have borrowernumber in the file
17:20 nengard so should the CSV have that then?
17:22 fcapo Normally, the borrowernumber is an automatically generated ID used by Koha, I don't think it would be a good ides to include it in the CSV unless you want to modify existing users.
17:24 fcapo looking at the import page, it seems the cardnumber is used to modify existing users, so I guess the borrowernumber would be useless here.
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17:33 nengard yeah, so i'll report this and people can discuss what's best
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17:38 fcapo after searching for a while, found my bug : Bug 5736
17:38 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5736 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---,, RESOLVED FIXED, Fixing some zebra configuration errors in marc21/biblios/record.abs
17:45 chris_n so much for "enterprise class data centers" hosted in amazon's cloud
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18:21 oleonard Koha needs an interface for canceling transfers.
18:24 cait hm?
18:25 oleonard I've got titles on my 'transfers to receive' report which are 794 days late. They've already been marked lost. But the transfer is still pending.
18:27 oleonard It might also be a good idea to cancel any outstanding transfer when making something lost.
18:28 cait ah ok
18:28 cait so a way to deal with lost or missing transfers?
18:29 cait I wondered why you don't just return them, but that makes sense
18:31 oleonard The other problem with just returning them is you have to log in at the branch they're being transferred to, check them in, then log back in to the branch where they belong, check them in again.
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18:40 oleonard Hmm.... Bug 2941
18:40 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2941 normal, P3, ---, chris, ASSIGNED, Transfers cannot be canceled once initiated.
18:40 cait an old one
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18:41 cait sometimes it's really surprising what is all in bugzilla
18:41 sekjal oleonard:  I can put that bug on my hit list, if it's proving particularly offensive
18:41 wizzyrea NEKLS would love to see that too
18:41 wizzyrea a way to cancel transfers
18:42 oleonard sekjal: I'm looking right now at the work rangi did on that bug. It doesn't look like it ever got merged
18:43 sekjal the good news is there is already a subroutine in C4::Circulation to delete transfers
18:44 sekjal would be easy enough to add a "Cancel Transfer" to the page
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18:46 gmc_training good afternoon, folks
18:46 sekjal afternoon, gmc_training!
18:46 gmc_training please say hello to Greg, who is taking some Koha training today
18:47 cait hi gmc_training
18:47 cait hi greg :)
18:47 * oleonard will brb
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18:47 gmc_training :)
18:48 * wizzyrea waves at both gmc_training and greg
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18:52 oleonard My tab key ran out of tabs, so I had to refill it by restarting.
18:53 nengard hehe
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19:01 Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.4.0 is now available | Next IRC meeting 11 May 2011 0200 UTC+0 | | This channel is logged | Pastes at
19:09 joetho Hello Greg
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19:39 oleonard I attached a patch to Bug 2941
19:39 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2941 normal, P3, ---, chris, ASSIGNED, Transfers cannot be canceled once initiated.
19:44 sekjal great!
19:44 cait oleonard+1
19:45 cait oleonard++
19:46 oleonard I guess that just got lost in the cracks. It was 99% done unless there's a catch I'm missing
19:46 cait as I said - bugzilla is full of surprises :)
19:48 rangi yeah got lost in the 3.2 release and kohacon10
19:48 cait morning rangi :)
19:49 rangi morning
19:50 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 2941] Transfers cannot be canceled once initiated. <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2941>
19:54 wizzyrea oo oo
19:54 * wizzyrea goes to grab that
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20:02 oleonard Someone show that troll at the Syrsi conference this page: http://www.librarytechnology.o[…]
20:03 wizzyrea interesting
20:03 wizzyrea no one switched away from koha-bywater
20:04 wizzyrea guys, that's really awesome!
20:05 wizzyrea looks like no one switched away from evergreen either
20:06 * cait makes notes
20:08 sekjal wizzyrea:  our goal is to keep our service levels high enough that no one ever walks away out of unhappiness
20:09 wizzyrea sekjal: it's working, apparently :)
20:09 sekjal :)  we like our partners very much
20:09 cait :)
20:16 joetho troll at sd conference?
20:19 oleonard joetho: Someone quoted this line on Twitter: "open source ILS just didn't seem to have panned out."
20:19 rangi oleonard: the troll was the sd people
20:19 rangi of course they are going to do that
20:19 rangi we are terrorists of course
20:20 joetho <-- I would have spoked up, oh yes I would have
20:20 joetho <--- now working in a s/d shop.
20:20 joetho <--opensource infidel
20:21 rangi well, there was a fair amount of passive aggression on twitter, its what its for doncha know :)
20:21 joetho always
20:21 * oleonard terrorizes the innocent public with dangerous patches
20:21 rangi but im not sure anyone heckled :)
20:21 joetho I would have but I didn't go.
20:21 cait oleonard: I am scared :)
20:21 joetho Phoenix.
20:21 joetho oh you are not either.
20:22 wizzyrea hmm
20:22 wizzyrea on latest master
20:22 wizzyrea on the advanced search, in the intranet
20:22 wizzyrea there are no "and" dropdowns
20:22 cait you turned on the more options?
20:22 * oleonard quits for the weekend
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20:22 wizzyrea hmm
20:22 wizzyrea let me check
20:22 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: history.txt updates for April 2011 releases <[…]16f8fec03ed27f724> / Add missing library to release notes <[…]e38ffb4ca69aba70b>
20:23 cait I remember testing that - it was broken by tt but fixed afaik
20:23 wizzyrea yea, it's on
20:23 cait hm
20:23 cait does it work in opac?
20:23 wizzyrea mine looks like:
20:23 cait perhaps we only fixed one of those
20:23 cait klick on more options
20:24 cait click even
20:24 wizzyrea aha!
20:24 wizzyrea is that a cookie?
20:24 cait no
20:24 wizzyrea hrm
20:24 wizzyrea oki
20:24 cait it's a sys pref
20:24 wizzyrea mine is set to show, I believe
20:24 cait no idea then :)
20:25 wizzyrea yep, it's set to show, soooo
20:25 wizzyrea something has gone awry, gromit :)
20:26 cait hm, but not an evil bug
20:27 wizzyrea hm
20:27 wizzyrea nope
20:27 wizzyrea not evil
20:27 wizzyrea here's another one tho
20:27 wizzyrea if you search by available items only
20:27 wizzyrea if any item is unavailable
20:27 wizzyrea you won't find the book
20:27 wizzyrea by title
20:28 rangi yeah, thats been there for ever, i think there is a bug for that
20:28 wizzyrea hum de dum
20:29 jenkins_koha Starting build 225 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
20:30 cait I think ther eis one for icu and available items
20:30 wizzyrea bug 4481?
20:30 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4481 normal, P5, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED, Search's Limit to Available filters out many available items
20:30 wizzyrea but there was a patch for marc21
20:31 cait bug 5958
20:31 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5958 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Availability Limit with icu
20:32 wizzyrea so which does "works under keyword but not under title" fall under?
20:33 * wizzyrea has really no clue about ICU
20:34 rangi re the question earlier about bugs marked for rel_3_4
20:34 * cait perks up
20:34 rangi if they are bugs, leave them marked for that, if they are enhancements shift them to rel_3_6
20:34 rangi that will help chris_n know which ones to cherry-pick etc
20:34 wizzyrea o cool I didn't realize chris_n stayed on as releasemaint :)
20:35 wizzyrea i may have been under a rock
20:35 * chris_n needs all the help he can get :-P
20:35 rangi hehe
20:35 cait are you maintaining 3.4 and 3.2 now
20:35 cait ?
20:35 rangi its a big job
20:36 chris_n cait: yup
20:36 cait you are crazy :) chris_n++
20:36 chris_n although I anticipate that stuff for 3.2 will slow down quite a bit now
20:36 cait rangi: what about the status?
20:36 cait I thik that was for open bugs?
20:36 rangi if its needs signoff, and the patch doesnt have tmpl changes
20:36 cait what about the patch pushed ones?
20:36 rangi it can stay as it is
20:37 rangi if it has tmpl changes, it would be good to note that it needs to be reformatted
20:37 * chris_n notes that patches which should be included in 3.2.x should be noted as such in the commit comments
20:37 rangi cait: pushed, but not resolved yet?
20:37 chris_n or taged for 3.2.x in the subject line
20:38 wizzyrea erm, ok dense question
20:38 cait I think so
20:38 wizzyrea i just created a branch but forgot to add which remote branch to track
20:38 wizzyrea can I add that
20:38 wizzyrea after the fact?
20:38 rangi cait: mark them resolved fixed if they are
20:38 * chris_n does not think so
20:38 cait and I think I need some very clear guidelines - because I want to do some bug wrangling but start to get confused now :)
20:38 chris_n just git branch -D and recreate
20:39 rangi any that are resolved fixed, you can test and mark closed
20:39 wizzyrea kk, that's what I was thinking but i wanted to make sure there wasn't some wicked git fu I was missing out on
20:39 rangi you can rebase it
20:39 cait rangi: and if they are only patch pushed but tnot resolved fixed yet but confirmed working in 3.4?
20:39 cait my, this gets complicated
20:40 rangi they alwyas go resolved fixed first
20:40 wizzyrea thanks chris_n
20:40 rangi and someone else closes them
20:40 chris_n np :)
20:40 rangi so you hsould resolved fix and close the same bug
20:40 rangi 2 diff people
20:40 rangi should
20:40 rangi does that make sense?
20:40 cait yep
20:40 rangi hsould = shouldnt
20:40 cait but I fear we will never get that all done ;)
20:40 chris_n @later tell oleonard I'll try your patch again Monday
20:40 huginn chris_n: The operation succeeded.
20:41 rangi cait: getting to resolved fix is the most important bit
20:41 wizzyrea chris_n: are you looking at 2941?
20:41 rangi i plan to mark all the ones resolved fixed as closed in a week or 2
20:41 cait ok
20:42 cait marking resolved fixed after testing - got it
20:42 chris_n wizzyrea: no, this is another he wrote for 3.2.x specifically
20:42 cait oh
20:42 wizzyrea chris_n: k
20:42 chris_n do I need to pick that one for 3.2.x?
20:43 cait ok, I will regret that
20:43 cait I guess I have to test both 3.2.x and 3.4 to mark resolved?
20:44 chris_n it would be nice if bugzilla allowed for marking multiple versions for a bug
20:44 cait it would
20:44 wizzyrea oho
20:44 chris_n cait: I'd say that if the bug appears in both, both need to be tested
20:44 cait as long as it doesn't i will leave a comment which version was tested.... I guess
20:44 cait and leave open until both were
20:44 rangi yeah that would be good
20:45 * chris_n plans on pressing for a rather quick EOL on 3.2.x as soon as we get out a release or two of 3.4.x
20:46 cait I hope you do that
20:46 cait because I will NOT test in 3 versions ;)
20:46 chris_n I suppose a final 3.0.x will not happen at this point?
20:46 * chris_n wonders if we should do a formal EOL announcement for 3.0.x
20:47 rangi i don thtink there is much point doing a final one now
20:47 chris_n maybe we can talk owen into a fancy sculpted, metalic look interface for 4.0... ;-)
20:48 cait lol
20:48 cait blinking buttons and running text?
20:48 chris_n hehe
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20:51 sekjal I was thinking of doing a movie trailer for Koha 4.0
20:51 wizzyrea oleonard++ for finding that transfer code
20:51 wizzyrea rangi++ for writing
20:51 wizzyrea it
20:51 wizzyrea because
20:51 wizzyrea it actually fixes another bug too
20:51 rangi now we have a bunch of bug wranglers
20:51 rangi things like this should get lost less
20:51 rangi ill send out a call to action next week
20:52 cait cool :)
20:52 rangi of course cait prolly will have finished it all by then knowing her
20:52 wizzyrea she's very efficient
20:53 cait oh don't do that
20:53 rangi heh, mbreeding must have heard oleonard
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20:53 wizzyrea I think that fix for 2941 also fixes bug 6226
20:53 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6226 normal, P5, ---, ian.walls, NEW, Returning a misrouted item twice causes transit to correct receiving library to disappear
20:53 rangi he tweeted the turnover reports
20:54 rangi wizzyrea: yay, first candidate for 3.4.1
20:54 wizzyrea i still have some testing to do
20:54 wizzyrea on it
20:54 cait ok, another can of worms
20:54 cait what about the rfc's on the wiki?
20:54 wizzyrea but oy vey, if that gets fixed... so happy
20:55 rangi cait: yeah the ones that have bugs attached, we can check the bugs and mark it done if they are resolved
20:55 rangi the other ones .. probably will involve emails to the devel list
20:55 rangi what i want to do in the next few weeks
20:56 rangi is try to get everything that has a patch marked needs signoff, either signed off or reformatted so it can be signed off
20:56 sekjal signed off on 2941
20:56 wizzyrea sekjal: i'm going to too, but I want to test it in context of holds too
20:56 rangi before we can a pile more
20:56 wizzyrea so I'm doing that now
20:56 rangi can=add
20:56 sekjal wizzyrea:  one of the ones I tested had a hold
20:57 cait rangi: you are an optimist :)
20:57 rangi heh, well even a few is good
20:57 wizzyrea I have something special in mind
20:57 sekjal from Library A to Library B, checked in at Library C
20:57 sekjal two messages
20:57 sekjal the first about the transfer, with the cancel transfer link, and the second about the hold
20:58 wizzyrea yea
20:58 wizzyrea that's bad
20:58 wizzyrea it should not prompt to send home
20:58 wizzyrea ever, if there is a hold
20:59 wizzyrea get stuff going all over the place that way
20:59 wizzyrea because staff don't always read the screen
20:59 wizzyrea I don't think I could sign off if it introduces dual prompts
20:59 rangi s/dont always/never/
20:59 sekjal wizzyrea: my understanding was that the dual prompts were already there
21:00 sekjal this just adds a link to one of them to cancel the transfer
21:00 rangi *nod*
21:00 wizzyrea mmm no I thought we just had this fixed
21:00 wizzyrea 1s
21:00 cait hm yes there was a patch about dual prompts
21:01 cait bug 6004?
21:01 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6004 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, checking in an item that needs to be transferred home, and is on-hold for a patron, causes dual transfer message box
21:01 wizzyrea was from ruth
21:01 wizzyrea yep that's the one
21:01 rangi easy way to test, git reset HEAD^
21:02 rangi git stash
21:02 rangi and if the dual prompts are still there, its not it
21:02 cait what does the first command do?
21:02 cait or undo?
21:02 wizzyrea un mo
21:02 sekjal that patch uses $hbr, which is problematic
21:03 sekjal $hbr is defined as HomeOrHoldingBranchReturn, not uniformly homebranch
21:03 wizzyrea hm this must be one of the last dual prompt situations
21:03 sekjal which is fine, set it to homebranch, and you're good to go
21:03 rangi yep thats what that syspref is supposed to do
21:03 sekjal but if you're in IndependantBranches, that means you can't check the item back in at the library that issued it
21:04 rangi you can if you have it set to holdingbranch
21:04 sekjal yes, but then you won't be prompted to transfer it to it's homebranch if you have AutoItemReturn set to yes
21:04 sekjal it'll just stay at the holdingbranch
21:04 rangi right, because youve told it that you allow it to stay at holdingbranch
21:05 sekjal there's no way in IndependantBranches to send the item home automatically
21:05 sekjal if homebranch, you can't check it back in.
21:05 sekjal if holdingbranch, it stays where it's returned
21:05 rangi right, however its fixed it needs to not break it for not independant branches too
21:06 rangi ie it needs to respect the homeorholdingbranch syspref
21:06 wizzyrea bug 4234
21:06 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4234 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Automatic transfer shouldn't take precedence over a hold transit
21:06 sekjal HomeOrHoldingBranchReturn is being used two different ways in AddReturn
21:06 wizzyrea which is what i'm seeing here
21:06 sekjal one to define where one is allowed to return the material, the other to determine where it should be transferred to after return
21:07 rangi afaict the patch for 2941 doesnt touch hbr at all
21:07 rangi are you talking about the one for 6004?
21:07 sekjal rangi:  yes, this is 6004
21:07 sekjal 2941 does what it planned to do
21:08 sekjal 6004 needs a follow up
21:08 rangi ah right
21:08 sekjal I have code in testing for it
21:08 * rangi was confused
21:08 * cait is still
21:08 sekjal this was seriously goffing up MassCat, until I patched them
21:08 rangi can you note this on 6004
21:08 sekjal yes
21:08 rangi thanks
21:09 rangi also, i note you have been using the blocks feature in bugzilla
21:09 rangi sekjal++
21:09 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #225: SUCCESS in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/225/
21:09 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Add missing library to release notes
21:09 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: history.txt updates for April 2011 releases
21:10 rangi makes tracking related bugs a lot easier
21:10 rangi because you get the nice tree view
21:10 rangi so, block/depends etc these one together would be good wizzyrea
21:11 wizzyrea I didn't mean to confuse the issue, I just hadn't seen a dual prompt in so long I was surprised.
21:12 wizzyrea hmm
21:12 sekjal 6004 update with notes
21:12 sekjal now, I must depart
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21:13 sekjal have a good weekend, #koha friends!
21:13 wizzyrea bye sekjal, have a good weekend :)
21:13 sekjal left #koha
21:13 cait bye sekjal :)
21:14 rangi[…]-open-source-ils/
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21:14 rangi ill encourage them to put the code in a git repo
21:15 rangi cos its sounds cool
21:15 cait it does
21:16 wizzyrea uh, yea
21:16 wizzyrea oleonard will be mad tho ;)
21:16 wizzyrea i know he wanted to tackle that
21:16 rangi he can take it, and fix it for tt
21:16 rangi :)
21:17 jcamins_away rangi: do you know how to get in touch with Tumer, to ask if he'd be willing to share his Zebra configuration?
21:17 rangi ill dig up an email
21:17 rangi and im sure he would
21:17 rangi hes a great guy
21:20 wizzyrea i really want that mobile interface >.<
21:20 * wizzyrea doesn't want to have to pay for library anywhere, even though it's pretty great.
21:22 rangi[…]
21:22 rangi there ya go
21:24 rangi bbiab
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21:55 cait h
21:55 cait hm
21:55 cait I did a git pull...
21:55 cait it said merge made by recursive... and it seems very busy?
21:59 cait hm.
22:01 rangi yes it will be
22:01 rangi all the po files
22:01 wizzyrea oh yea mine took ages
22:01 wizzyrea where ages = several minutes, more than I had the patience to watch
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22:05 cait ah
22:05 cait I got worried :)
22:08 cait rangi: is there a way to manage branches on bulk? Like deleting all starting with tt?
22:10 cait ah, you can list more than one branch for deletion
22:17 * jcamins_away realizes too late... much too late... that he forgot to shut down MySQL before deleting ibdata1.
22:18 cait sounds like it's a bad thing to forget
22:19 jcamins_away Yeah, probably.
22:19 gmcharlt jcamins_away: it's an opportunity to validate your data recovery process
22:19 gmcharlt think of it that way :)
22:20 jcamins_away gmcharlt: the reason I deleted ibdata1 was to get rid of the data.
22:20 jcamins_away My 400MB DB was taking ~6GB.
22:20 jcamins_away And I have 1.5GB of data to load into it.
22:23 * jcamins_away is aware that there was probably a better way to deal with the issue.
22:23 jcamins_away Fortunately, restarting MySQL fixed everything.
22:57 cait bye :)
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