Time  Nick            Message
22:57 cait            bye :)
22:23 jcamins_away    Fortunately, restarting MySQL fixed everything.
22:23 * jcamins_away  is aware that there was probably a better way to deal with the issue.
22:20 jcamins_away    And I have 1.5GB of data to load into it.
22:20 jcamins_away    My 400MB DB was taking ~6GB.
22:20 jcamins_away    gmcharlt: the reason I deleted ibdata1 was to get rid of the data.
22:19 gmcharlt        think of it that way :)
22:19 gmcharlt        jcamins_away: it's an opportunity to validate your data recovery process
22:19 jcamins_away    Yeah, probably.
22:18 cait            sounds like it's a bad thing to forget
22:17 * jcamins_away  realizes too late... much too late... that he forgot to shut down MySQL before deleting ibdata1.
22:10 cait            ah, you can list more than one branch for deletion
22:08 cait            rangi: is there a way to manage branches on bulk? Like deleting all starting with tt?
22:05 cait            I got worried :)
22:05 cait            ah
22:01 wizzyrea        where ages = several minutes, more than I had the patience to watch
22:01 wizzyrea        oh yea mine took ages
22:01 rangi           all the po files
22:01 rangi           yes it will be
21:59 cait            hm.
21:55 cait            it said merge made by recursive... and it seems very busy?
21:55 cait            I did a git pull...
21:55 cait            hm
21:55 cait            h
21:24 rangi           bbiab
21:22 rangi           there ya go
21:22 rangi           http://library.neu.edu.tr/cgi-bin/koha/opac-infrastructure.pl
21:20 * wizzyrea      doesn't want to have to pay for library anywhere, even though it's pretty great.
21:20 wizzyrea        i really want that mobile interface >.<
21:17 rangi           hes a great guy
21:17 rangi           and im sure he would
21:17 rangi           ill dig up an email
21:17 jcamins_away    rangi: do you know how to get in touch with Tumer, to ask if he'd be willing to share his Zebra configuration?
21:16 rangi           :)
21:16 rangi           he can take it, and fix it for tt
21:16 wizzyrea        i know he wanted to tackle that
21:16 wizzyrea        oleonard will be mad tho ;)
21:16 wizzyrea        uh, yea
21:15 cait            it does
21:15 rangi           cos its sounds cool
21:14 rangi           ill encourage them to put the code in a git repo
21:14 rangi           http://www.amzari.com/v3/2011/04/mobile-opac-based-on-koha-open-source-ils/
21:13 cait            bye sekjal :)
21:13 wizzyrea        bye sekjal, have a good weekend :)
21:13 sekjal          have a good weekend, #koha friends!
21:12 sekjal          now, I must depart
21:12 sekjal          6004 update with notes
21:12 wizzyrea        hmm
21:11 wizzyrea        I didn't mean to confuse the issue, I just hadn't seen a dual prompt in so long I was surprised.
21:10 rangi           so, block/depends etc these one together would be good wizzyrea
21:10 rangi           because you get the nice tree view
21:10 rangi           makes tracking related bugs a lot easier
21:09 jenkins_koha    * Galen Charlton: history.txt updates for April 2011 releases
21:09 jenkins_koha    * Nicole C. Engard: Add missing library to release notes
21:09 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_master build #225: SUCCESS in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/225/
21:09 rangi           sekjal++
21:09 rangi           also, i note you have been using the blocks feature in bugzilla
21:08 rangi           thanks
21:08 sekjal          yes
21:08 rangi           can you note this on 6004
21:08 sekjal          this was seriously goffing up MassCat, until I patched them
21:08 * cait          is still
21:08 * rangi         was confused
21:08 sekjal          I have code in testing for it
21:08 rangi           ah right
21:08 sekjal          6004 needs a follow up
21:07 sekjal          2941 does what it planned to do
21:07 sekjal          rangi:  yes, this is 6004
21:07 rangi           are you talking about the one for 6004?
21:07 rangi           afaict the patch for 2941 doesnt touch hbr at all
21:06 sekjal          one to define where one is allowed to return the material, the other to determine where it should be transferred to after return
21:06 wizzyrea        which is what i'm seeing here
21:06 sekjal          HomeOrHoldingBranchReturn is being used two different ways in AddReturn
21:06 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4234 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Automatic transfer shouldn't take precedence over a hold transit
21:06 wizzyrea        bug 4234
21:06 rangi           ie it needs to respect the homeorholdingbranch syspref
21:05 rangi           right, however its fixed it needs to not break it for not independant branches too
21:05 sekjal          if holdingbranch, it stays where it's returned
21:05 sekjal          if homebranch, you can't check it back in.
21:05 sekjal          there's no way in IndependantBranches to send the item home automatically
21:04 rangi           right, because youve told it that you allow it to stay at holdingbranch
21:04 sekjal          it'll just stay at the holdingbranch
21:04 sekjal          yes, but then you won't be prompted to transfer it to it's homebranch if you have AutoItemReturn set to yes
21:04 rangi           you can if you have it set to holdingbranch
21:03 sekjal          but if you're in IndependantBranches, that means you can't check the item back in at the library that issued it
21:03 rangi           yep thats what that syspref is supposed to do
21:03 sekjal          which is fine, set it to homebranch, and you're good to go
21:03 wizzyrea        hm this must be one of the last dual prompt situations
21:03 sekjal          $hbr is defined as HomeOrHoldingBranchReturn, not uniformly homebranch
21:02 sekjal          that patch uses $hbr, which is problematic
21:02 wizzyrea        un mo
21:02 cait            or undo?
21:02 cait            what does the first command do?
21:02 rangi           and if the dual prompts are still there, its not it
21:02 rangi           git stash
21:01 rangi           easy way to test, git reset HEAD^
21:01 wizzyrea        yep that's the one
21:01 wizzyrea        was from ruth
21:01 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6004 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, checking in an item that needs to be transferred home, and is on-hold for a patron, causes dual transfer message box
21:01 cait            bug 6004?
21:00 cait            hm yes there was a patch about dual prompts
21:00 wizzyrea        1s
21:00 wizzyrea        mmm no I thought we just had this fixed
21:00 rangi           *nod*
21:00 sekjal          this just adds a link to one of them to cancel the transfer
20:59 sekjal          wizzyrea: my understanding was that the dual prompts were already there
20:59 rangi           s/dont always/never/
20:59 wizzyrea        I don't think I could sign off if it introduces dual prompts
20:59 wizzyrea        because staff don't always read the screen
20:59 wizzyrea        get stuff going all over the place that way
20:58 wizzyrea        ever, if there is a hold
20:58 wizzyrea        it should not prompt to send home
20:58 wizzyrea        that's bad
20:58 wizzyrea        yea
20:57 sekjal          the first about the transfer, with the cancel transfer link, and the second about the hold
20:57 sekjal          two messages
20:57 sekjal          from Library A to Library B, checked in at Library C
20:57 wizzyrea        I have something special in mind
20:57 rangi           heh, well even a few is good
20:57 cait            rangi: you are an optimist :)
20:56 sekjal          wizzyrea:  one of the ones I tested had a hold
20:56 rangi           can=add
20:56 wizzyrea        so I'm doing that now
20:56 rangi           before we can a pile more
20:56 wizzyrea        sekjal: i'm going to too, but I want to test it in context of holds too
20:56 sekjal          signed off on 2941
20:56 rangi           is try to get everything that has a patch marked needs signoff, either signed off or reformatted so it can be signed off
20:55 rangi           what i want to do in the next few weeks
20:55 rangi           the other ones .. probably will involve emails to the devel list
20:55 rangi           cait: yeah the ones that have bugs attached, we can check the bugs and mark it done if they are resolved
20:54 wizzyrea        but oy vey, if that gets fixed... so happy
20:54 cait            what about the rfc's on the wiki?
20:54 cait            ok, another can of worms
20:54 wizzyrea        on it
20:54 wizzyrea        i still have some testing to do
20:54 rangi           wizzyrea: yay, first candidate for 3.4.1
20:53 rangi           he tweeted the turnover reports
20:53 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6226 normal, P5, ---, ian.walls, NEW, Returning a misrouted item twice causes transit to correct receiving library to disappear
20:53 wizzyrea        I think that fix for 2941 also fixes bug 6226
20:53 rangi           heh, mbreeding must have heard oleonard
20:53 cait            oh don't do that
20:52 wizzyrea        she's very efficient
20:52 rangi           of course cait prolly will have finished it all by then knowing her
20:52 cait            cool :)
20:51 rangi           ill send out a call to action next week
20:51 rangi           things like this should get lost less
20:51 rangi           now we have a bunch of bug wranglers
20:51 wizzyrea        it actually fixes another bug too
20:51 wizzyrea        because
20:51 wizzyrea        it
20:51 wizzyrea        rangi++ for writing
20:51 wizzyrea        oleonard++ for finding that transfer code
20:51 sekjal          I was thinking of doing a movie trailer for Koha 4.0
20:48 chris_n         hehe
20:48 cait            blinking buttons and running text?
20:48 cait            lol
20:47 chris_n         maybe we can talk owen into a fancy sculpted, metalic look interface for 4.0... ;-)
20:47 rangi           i don thtink there is much point doing a final one now
20:46 * chris_n       wonders if we should do a formal EOL announcement for 3.0.x
20:46 chris_n         I suppose a final 3.0.x will not happen at this point?
20:46 cait            because I will NOT test in 3 versions ;)
20:46 cait            I hope you do that
20:45 * chris_n       plans on pressing for a rather quick EOL on 3.2.x as soon as we get out a release or two of 3.4.x
20:44 rangi           yeah that would be good
20:44 cait            and leave open until both were
20:44 cait            as long as it doesn't i will leave a comment which version was tested.... I guess
20:44 chris_n         cait: I'd say that if the bug appears in both, both need to be tested
20:44 wizzyrea        oho
20:44 cait            it would
20:44 chris_n         it would be nice if bugzilla allowed for marking multiple versions for a bug
20:43 cait            I guess I have to test both 3.2.x and 3.4 to mark resolved?
20:43 cait            ok, I will regret that
20:42 chris_n         do I need to pick that one for 3.2.x?
20:42 wizzyrea        chris_n: k
20:42 cait            oh
20:42 chris_n         wizzyrea: no, this is another he wrote for 3.2.x specifically
20:42 cait            marking resolved fixed after testing - got it
20:41 cait            ok
20:41 rangi           i plan to mark all the ones resolved fixed as closed in a week or 2
20:41 wizzyrea        chris_n: are you looking at 2941?
20:41 rangi           cait: getting to resolved fix is the most important bit
20:40 huginn          chris_n: The operation succeeded.
20:40 chris_n         @later tell oleonard I'll try your patch again Monday
20:40 cait            but I fear we will never get that all done ;)
20:40 rangi           hsould = shouldnt
20:40 cait            yep
20:40 rangi           does that make sense?
20:40 rangi           should
20:40 rangi           2 diff people
20:40 rangi           so you hsould resolved fix and close the same bug
20:40 chris_n         np :)
20:40 rangi           and someone else closes them
20:40 wizzyrea        thanks chris_n
20:40 rangi           they alwyas go resolved fixed first
20:39 cait            my, this gets complicated
20:39 cait            rangi: and if they are only patch pushed but tnot resolved fixed yet but confirmed working in 3.4?
20:39 rangi           you can rebase it
20:39 wizzyrea        kk, that's what I was thinking but i wanted to make sure there wasn't some wicked git fu I was missing out on
20:39 rangi           any that are resolved fixed, you can test and mark closed
20:38 chris_n         just git branch -D and recreate
20:38 cait            and I think I need some very clear guidelines - because I want to do some bug wrangling but start to get confused now :)
20:38 * chris_n       does not think so
20:38 rangi           cait: mark them resolved fixed if they are
20:38 wizzyrea        after the fact?
20:38 wizzyrea        can I add that
20:38 wizzyrea        i just created a branch but forgot to add which remote branch to track
20:38 cait            I think so
20:38 wizzyrea        erm, ok dense question
20:37 chris_n         or taged for 3.2.x in the subject line
20:37 rangi           cait: pushed, but not resolved yet?
20:37 * chris_n       notes that patches which should be included in 3.2.x should be noted as such in the commit comments
20:37 rangi           if it has tmpl changes, it would be good to note that it needs to be reformatted
20:36 rangi           it can stay as it is
20:36 cait            what about the patch pushed ones?
20:36 rangi           if its needs signoff, and the patch doesnt have tmpl changes
20:36 cait            I thik that was for open bugs?
20:36 cait            rangi: what about the status?
20:36 chris_n         although I anticipate that stuff for 3.2 will slow down quite a bit now
20:36 cait            you are crazy :) chris_n++
20:36 chris_n         cait: yup
20:35 rangi           its a big job
20:35 cait            ?
20:35 cait            are you maintaining 3.4 and 3.2 now
20:35 rangi           hehe
20:35 * chris_n       needs all the help he can get :-P
20:35 wizzyrea        i may have been under a rock
20:34 wizzyrea        o cool I didn't realize chris_n stayed on as releasemaint :)
20:34 rangi           that will help chris_n know which ones to cherry-pick etc
20:34 rangi           if they are bugs, leave them marked for that, if they are enhancements shift them to rel_3_6
20:34 * cait          perks up
20:34 rangi           re the question earlier about bugs marked for rel_3_4
20:33 * wizzyrea      has really no clue about ICU
20:32 wizzyrea        so which does "works under keyword but not under title" fall under?
20:31 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5958 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Availability Limit with icu
20:31 cait            bug 5958
20:30 wizzyrea        but there was a patch for marc21
20:30 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4481 normal, P5, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED, Search's Limit to Available filters out many available items
20:30 wizzyrea        bug 4481?
20:30 cait            I think ther eis one for icu and available items
20:29 jenkins_koha    Starting build 225 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
20:28 wizzyrea        hum de dum
20:28 rangi           yeah, thats been there for ever, i think there is a bug for that
20:27 wizzyrea        by title
20:27 wizzyrea        you won't find the book
20:27 wizzyrea        if any item is unavailable
20:27 wizzyrea        if you search by available items only
20:27 wizzyrea        here's another one tho
20:27 wizzyrea        not evil
20:27 wizzyrea        nope
20:27 wizzyrea        hm
20:26 cait            hm, but not an evil bug
20:25 wizzyrea        something has gone awry, gromit :)
20:25 wizzyrea        yep, it's set to show, soooo
20:24 cait            no idea then :)
20:24 wizzyrea        mine is set to show, I believe
20:24 cait            it's a sys pref
20:24 wizzyrea        oki
20:24 wizzyrea        hrm
20:24 cait            no
20:24 wizzyrea        is that a cookie?
20:24 wizzyrea        aha!
20:24 cait            click even
20:23 cait            klick on more options
20:23 cait            perhaps we only fixed one of those
20:23 wizzyrea        mine looks like: http://screencast.com/t/SzxbJAffuZGO
20:23 cait            does it work in opac?
20:23 cait            hm
20:23 wizzyrea        yea, it's on
20:23 cait            I remember testing that - it was broken by tt but fixed afaik
20:22 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: history.txt updates for April 2011 releases <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d04ca42111a39da4774582c16f8fec03ed27f724> / Add missing library to release notes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=975e876c5e30e9b8fffbc2ee38ffb4ca69aba70b>
20:22 wizzyrea        let me check
20:22 wizzyrea        hmm
20:22 * oleonard      quits for the weekend
20:22 cait            you turned on the more options?
20:22 wizzyrea        there are no "and" dropdowns
20:22 wizzyrea        on the advanced search, in the intranet
20:22 wizzyrea        on latest master
20:22 wizzyrea        hmm
20:21 joetho          oh you are not either.
20:21 joetho          Phoenix.
20:21 cait            oleonard: I am scared :)
20:21 joetho          I would have but I didn't go.
20:21 rangi           but im not sure anyone heckled :)
20:21 * oleonard      terrorizes the innocent public with dangerous patches
20:21 joetho          always
20:21 rangi           well, there was a fair amount of passive aggression on twitter, its what its for doncha know :)
20:20 joetho          <--opensource infidel
20:20 joetho          <--- now working in a s/d shop.
20:20 joetho          <-- I would have spoked up, oh yes I would have
20:19 rangi           we are terrorists of course
20:19 rangi           of course they are going to do that
20:19 rangi           oleonard: the troll was the sd people
20:19 oleonard        joetho: Someone quoted this line on Twitter: "open source ILS just didn't seem to have panned out."
20:16 joetho          troll at sd conference?
20:09 cait            :)
20:09 sekjal          :)  we like our partners very much
20:09 wizzyrea        sekjal: it's working, apparently :)
20:08 sekjal          wizzyrea:  our goal is to keep our service levels high enough that no one ever walks away out of unhappiness
20:06 * cait          makes notes
20:05 wizzyrea        looks like no one switched away from evergreen either
20:04 wizzyrea        guys, that's really awesome!
20:03 wizzyrea        no one switched away from koha-bywater
20:03 wizzyrea        interesting
20:02 oleonard        Someone show that troll at the Syrsi conference this page: http://www.librarytechnology.org/ils-turnover-reverse.pl?Year=2011
19:54 * wizzyrea      goes to grab that
19:54 wizzyrea        oo oo
19:50 huginn          New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 2941] Transfers cannot be canceled once initiated. <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2941>
19:49 rangi           morning
19:48 cait            morning rangi :)
19:48 rangi           yeah got lost in the 3.2 release and kohacon10
19:46 cait            as I said - bugzilla is full of surprises :)
19:46 oleonard        I guess that just got lost in the cracks. It was 99% done unless there's a catch I'm missing
19:45 cait            oleonard++
19:44 cait            oleonard+1
19:44 sekjal          great!
19:39 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2941 normal, P3, ---, chris, ASSIGNED, Transfers cannot be canceled once initiated.
19:39 oleonard        I attached a patch to Bug 2941
19:09 joetho          Hello Greg
18:53 nengard         hehe
18:52 oleonard        My tab key ran out of tabs, so I had to refill it by restarting.
18:48 * wizzyrea      waves at both gmc_training and greg
18:47 gmc_training    :)
18:47 * oleonard      will brb
18:47 cait            hi greg :)
18:47 cait            hi gmc_training
18:46 gmc_training    please say hello to Greg, who is taking some Koha training today
18:46 sekjal          afternoon, gmc_training!
18:46 gmc_training    good afternoon, folks
18:44 sekjal          would be easy enough to add a "Cancel Transfer" to the transferstoreceive.pl page
18:43 sekjal          the good news is there is already a subroutine in C4::Circulation to delete transfers
18:42 oleonard        sekjal: I'm looking right now at the work rangi did on that bug. It doesn't look like it ever got merged
18:41 wizzyrea        a way to cancel transfers
18:41 wizzyrea        NEKLS would love to see that too
18:41 sekjal          oleonard:  I can put that bug on my hit list, if it's proving particularly offensive
18:41 cait            sometimes it's really surprising what is all in bugzilla
18:40 cait            an old one
18:40 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2941 normal, P3, ---, chris, ASSIGNED, Transfers cannot be canceled once initiated.
18:40 oleonard        Hmm.... Bug 2941
18:31 oleonard        The other problem with just returning them is you have to log in at the branch they're being transferred to, check them in, then log back in to the branch where they belong, check them in again.
18:29 cait            I wondered why you don't just return them, but that makes sense
18:28 cait            so a way to deal with lost or missing transfers?
18:28 cait            ah ok
18:27 oleonard        It might also be a good idea to cancel any outstanding transfer when making something lost.
18:25 oleonard        I've got titles on my 'transfers to receive' report which are 794 days late. They've already been marked lost. But the transfer is still pending.
18:24 cait            hm?
18:21 oleonard        Koha needs an interface for canceling transfers.
17:45 chris_n         so much for "enterprise class data centers" hosted in amazon's cloud
17:38 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5736 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, RESOLVED FIXED, Fixing some zebra configuration errors in marc21/biblios/record.abs
17:38 fcapo           after searching for a while, found my bug : Bug 5736
17:33 nengard         yeah, so i'll report this and people can discuss what's best
17:24 fcapo           looking at the import page, it seems the cardnumber is used to modify existing users, so I guess the borrowernumber would be useless here.
17:22 fcapo           Normally, the borrowernumber is an automatically generated ID used by Koha, I don't think it would be a good ides to include it in the CSV unless you want to modify existing users.
17:20 nengard         so should the CSV have that then?
17:19 nengard         you can't have borrowernumber in the file
17:19 nengard         found the bug
17:18 nengard         same thing I've done many times before, but this time I got a head row error
17:18 nengard         I downloaded the one from the page in Koha and filled in the fields
17:18 nengard         of patrons
17:18 nengard         i'm trying to import a csv
17:18 nengard         i think i found a bug but could use some confirmation ...
17:09 fcapo           true
17:08 wizzyrea        that way you can always just pop in and reference your bug
17:08 wizzyrea        :) always a good course of action
17:08 fcapo           ok, no problems, like I said, I'll post a bug report and see what happens.
17:07 wizzyrea        but I can't answer your questions :/
17:07 wizzyrea        me too :)
17:07 fcapo           yea, didn't realise that, I'm still working today :P
17:07 wizzyrea        plus fridays are always a bit slim around here, because it's saturday in half the world.
17:07 wizzyrea        plus it's a holiday
17:07 wizzyrea        everybody was up late getting the release done
17:06 fcapo           Ugh... seems I chose the wrong day to speak. I'll post a bug report.
17:01 fcapo           Just want to know if there was some recent attempts at correcting record.abs
17:00 fcapo           The field 710 is also declared twice in record.abs, which seems wrong to me
16:58 fcapo           It was because the field 710$9 was never indexed because it was placed after 710 in the record.abs file
16:57 fcapo           Many time, I got authorities that showed they were linked to 0 biblios while they were actually linked to some biblios.
16:55 fcapo           see http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.com/record-abs-and-melm-declaration-order-td3072197.html
16:55 fcapo           there are fields defined two times, and the order the fields are declared might be incorrect.
16:54 fcapo           Hello, I had some indexation problems and I notice something : the default record.abs file seems to be configured incorrectly.
15:58 wizzyrea        thx :)
15:58 nengard         :)
15:58 wizzyrea        I thought someone else had done it
15:58 wizzyrea        aha
15:58 nengard         just didn't make it in to 3.4
15:58 nengard         and it looked slick!
15:58 nengard         wizzyrea gmcharlt biblibre has work on that
15:52 wizzyrea        oh that could be
15:52 gmcharlt        maybe in one of the biblibre branches?
15:52 gmcharlt        could have sworn there was an ajax-y patch for that floating around
15:52 wizzyrea        instead of delete/recreate?
15:51 wizzyrea        is anybody (besides ptfs... I know they have this) working on being able to edit circ rules?
14:36 cait            our libraries are on 3.2.2
14:29 cait            I think magnuse wanted to update his demo
14:26 wizzyrea        it's pre TT
14:26 wizzyrea        we are running something back in the 30's
14:25 gmcharlt        who is running 3.4.0 (or almost-3.4.0) now?
14:17 nengard         Thanks! Sorry we missed them :( glad it's fixed
14:17 gmcharlt        nengard: post updated
14:14 tcohen          koha++
14:13 nengard         patch sent
14:12 nengard         thanks gmcharlt
14:12 gmcharlt        (I feel slightly dirty doing that just now, libraries shouldn't be forgotten!)
14:12 wahanui         gmcharlt: I forgot library
14:12 gmcharlt        wahanui: forget the library
14:12 wahanui         the library is asking for the renewal to be from last expiry date of the patron by default
14:12 gmcharlt        who is the library?
14:12 gmcharlt        nengard: you can just send a patch, and I can edit rangi's post on the website
14:08 nengard         how do i edit the release notes? we forgot a library that sponsored a dev
14:00 cait            time to grab something to eat
14:00 * cait          is a little confused now
13:59 cait            I like the spystatus
13:58 cait            totally forgot that I wrote that
13:58 cait            h
13:58 cait            o
13:58 wizzyrea        oy that's a much bigger problem
13:57 huginn          gmcharlt: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5482 normal, P5, ---, chris, NEW, Translation problem in guided reports - Item field names
13:57 gmcharlt        @bug 5482
13:57 gmcharlt        sorry cait, of course you've already thought of all this
13:57 gmcharlt        heh
13:55 cait            right
13:54 gmcharlt        but doesn't look like it's hooked up to the translation system
13:53 gmcharlt        yes, it is
13:52 cait            I think it's used in the guided reports
13:52 gmcharlt        cait: right, and that might be a starting-off point
13:51 cait            columns.defs
13:51 cait            but seems not maintained
13:51 cait            I think there was an attempt to do that
13:51 gmcharlt        exactly
13:51 cait            like reports
13:50 gmcharlt        where "names" could equal both "names" and "capsule descriptions" that can be used in other parts of the UI
13:50 gmcharlt        wizzyrea: of course, to actually do that would end up being a bigger project, but one that would have other i18n benefits: namely, making it possible to translate the names of database columns
13:48 gmcharlt        nengard: right - so you can work around it now, but I also agree that your proposal would be useful
13:47 wizzyrea        yea, exactly
13:47 gmcharlt        etc.
13:47 gmcharlt        Apellido (surname)
13:47 gmcharlt        Right, so for es-ES
13:47 nengard         good to know that defaults will be set though
13:47 nengard         sorry - was testing something .. I want to be able to import patrons with messaging preferences as a column .. like the patron attributes - that's what I was saying
13:47 wizzyrea        go have your tea :)
13:47 wizzyrea        i'm only talking about the human readability of the labels on those fields
13:47 wizzyrea        I think so
13:46 gmcharlt        I haven't had my tea yet - am I making sense?
13:46 gmcharlt        or more precisely, the *changing* whims, as it were
13:45 gmcharlt        (not that one could *also* i18n-ize the header line, but that's much more debatable - would make the file format for languages other than en subject to the whims of the translators)
13:44 wizzyrea        and mostly they're self explanatory, until you get to things like b_address
13:44 gmcharlt        as along as the column name was also listed, since that's what's needed in the CSV file header
13:43 gmcharlt        adding a translation of the descriptoin of the field label woudl make sense
13:43 gmcharlt        wizzyrea: ah, I see
13:43 wizzyrea        s/thing/things
13:43 wizzyrea        this is what happens when you let me poke at thing!
13:42 wizzyrea        so why not match them
13:42 wizzyrea        now I understand there's an argument here to be made that the csv requires those specific names
13:42 cait            hm I think the list is generated
13:42 wizzyrea        http://screencast.com/t/8bxwZdw2U
13:42 wizzyrea        but only bc I made a note on it :P
13:42 wizzyrea        ok a little more than 2
13:41 gmcharlt        tick-tock-tick-tock ;)
13:41 wizzyrea        it takes 2 sec ;)
13:41 cait            bye magnuse
13:41 cait            not sure that is worth the trouble
13:41 magnuse         see you later #koha!
13:40 wizzyrea        pic
13:40 wizzyrea        sec
13:40 cait            hm
13:40 gmcharlt        wizzyrea: internationalize the patron import header, you mean?
13:40 cait            but until then - it's nice to have some possibilites to achieve what you want to do :)
13:39 cait            right
13:39 cait            would be nice :)
13:39 gmcharlt        would have its uses
13:39 gmcharlt        but on  other hand, being able to tweak the messaging settings directly at the point of import to use something other than the patron category defaults
13:39 wizzyrea        where the labels for the fields are their field names, and not their english names
13:39 wizzyrea        trivial, debatable thing
13:38 wizzyrea        there was aonther thing with patron import
13:38 gmcharlt        both true
13:38 cait            and if you have messaging preferences set for the imported patron category - those will be set
13:37 cait            I think there is a separate scirpt for updating messaging preferences nt related to the import really
13:37 cait            hm
13:36 nengard         cait feel free to update it if i'm wrong
13:36 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6252 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Patron import tool should let you set messaging preferences
13:36 nengard         well i've reported an enhancement bug 6252
13:35 jwagner         morning, gmcharlt
13:33 gmcharlt        good morning
13:33 cait            hm?
13:30 nengard         so the command line does it, but not the tool in koha
13:24 cait            but I forgot to configure that a couple of times
13:24 cait            it took the settings from the beginning I thin
13:24 cait            the script I think yes
13:24 nengard         oh right that was a 3.4 patch right?
13:24 nengard         submitting an enhancement
13:23 cait            and it will take your settings from the patron category
13:23 nengard         k
13:23 cait            nengard: no not yet, but I think there might be a command line script
13:20 nengard         I don't see the option in the CSV file or the tool page
13:20 nengard         patron import question ... can we set the default messaging preferences for a patron using the import tool?
13:19 oleonard        Here too for some, just depends on your employer
13:19 magnuse         and a holiday in many parts of the world...
13:18 oleonard        Friday + 3.4 release hangovers = quiet day in #koha
13:07 cait            cool, thx
13:06 sekjal          if you manually set the password in the DB to either NULL or '', it prevents login, but still allows the storage of a userid
13:06 nengard         yes
13:06 nengard         just wiped out the defaults so there was no password
13:06 cait            this is about the ! right?
13:05 nengard         nothing special
13:05 cait            or sekjal
13:05 cait            nengard: how did you do it?
13:05 sekjal          gladly
13:04 nengard         no prob
13:04 nengard         :)
13:04 oleonard        I feel much more comfortable knowing that's taken care of
13:04 oleonard        Many thanks to sekjal and nengard for getting our passwords re-secured yesterday
13:03 sekjal          hi, magnuse!
13:03 magnuse         hiya sekjal
12:45 magnuse         the .po files were not renamed to anything with 4 in them aftr all? or will that be done for 3.4.1?
12:45 kmkale          bye all. Have a great weekend :)
12:43 huginn          oleonard: The operation succeeded.
12:43 oleonard        @later tell chris_n Can't figure out why that marc_subfield_structure patch won't apply for you.
12:41 oleonard        chris_n around?
12:38 Irma            magnuse yep tomorrow and Sunday ...
12:31 magnuse         hehe, time for a little bit of holiday soon, maybe? ;-)
12:29 Irma            although late we are actually working so I am a bit distracted
12:28 Irma            hi all
12:28 Irma            cait hi there magnuse :-)
12:27 nengard         http://twitter.com/#!/search/cosugi11%20open%20source
12:27 nengard         http://twitter.com/#!/search/cosugi11%20koha
12:27 nengard         Looks like open source and koha were mentioned at the sirsi conference
12:22 magnuse         g'day Irma!
12:20 cait            all is good :)
12:18 wahanui         You are right
12:18 Irma            You?
12:18 Irma            Really well now and with new clients on boards, have a lot to do witch is great....
12:18 cait            how are you Irma?
12:17 Irma            Hi cait :-)
12:17 cait            hi Irma :)
12:16 Irma            Great Easter present to libraries around the world!
12:15 Irma            Congratulations from us @ CALYX!
12:14 cait            hi oleonard :)
12:13 oleonard        Congratulations and thanks to all who worked late last night
12:13 kmkale          great. Will ask him. Either here or on the list :)
12:13 hdl             matthias his surname
12:13 hdl             matts is his nick
12:12 kmkale          thanks hdl. Whats his irc id?
12:12 hdl             (matts developped the stuff and know more about CAS than I)
12:12 hdl             I will ask matts to come or get in contact with you.
12:10 kmkale          hdl: I am still confused about the SSO part
12:09 kmkale          hdl: did. :)
12:09 hdl             To have more insight of how it should be done.
12:09 hdl             You should read 5630 and 6012 files... And https://wiki.jasig.org/display/CAS/Proxy+CAS+Walkthrough
12:08 hdl             kmkale: I think so.
12:05 kmkale          hdl: is there a special link we have to use to land in Koha? which has the ticket as a parameter?
12:04 hdl             kmkale: I am not really the one who developped CAS But it works.
12:04 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5630 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED, CAS improvements
12:04 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6012 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, matthias.meusburger, ASSIGNED, Set up a working example of a CAS proxy
12:04 kmkale          hdl: I am using 3.2.6. Which patches are must for CAS based SSO? bug 6012, bug 5630 ?
12:04 hdl             users log in to their ENT and then when they gets on a koha page, their CAS Ticket comes and Koha uses that to create a session
12:02 hdl             kmkale: they have it live in Lyon3 for a year now.
12:02 hdl             Koha uses his/her CAS Ticket and logs him in.
12:01 kmkale          is CAS Proxy necessary to get SSO? SSO not possible with normal CAS Auth?
12:01 hdl             kmkale: no he doesnot have to. look at the documentation for CAS Proxy
11:59 kmkale          I just need to understand how SSO supposed to work. If a user is authenticated by another application using the same CAS service and s/he comes to Koha should s/he have to login again? If not how can that be acchieved?
11:58 hdl             kmkale: sorry : documentation is here docs/CAS/
11:56 kmkale          hdl: Nope. No documentation in C4::Auth_with_cas.pm
11:52 * kmkale        is looking
11:51 hdl             kmkale: there is documentation for that in C4::Auth_with_cas.pm iirc
11:51 kmkale          hdl I have CAS authentication working in Koha 3.2.6. Can you tell me how to get Single Sign On working in Koha?
11:38 magnuse         hiya nengard and paul_p
11:33 adnc            yep, that did work
11:31 adnc            thanks hdl
11:31 adnc            ahh
11:31 cait            hi paul_p
11:29 hdl             --default-character-set=utf-8
11:28 adnc            is there anything I can do to avoid this
11:28 adnc            unfortunately the umlautes do get corrupt
11:27 adnc            I'm inserting into my DB with this command a marc field translations file mysql -u root -p koha_kutuphane < marc21_framework_DEFAULT.sq
11:27 cait            come and eat chocolate with us ;)
11:27 nengard         hiya
11:27 cait            hi nengard
11:25 magnuse         and what about the 58 bugs that need signoff for rel_3_4 - should they be moved to rel_3_6? http://koha-community.org/get-involved/
11:19 magnuse         cait: that sounds like a good idea
11:18 cait            marking them closed now after an additional testing round?
11:18 cait            rangi: what happens to the bugs now?
11:17 cait            bonjour hdl :)
11:17 hdl             rangi++
11:16 magnuse         almost forgot that...
11:16 magnuse         rangi++
11:16 jwagner         Hi magnuse
11:15 magnuse         hiya jwagner
11:12 jwagner         morning, cait
11:11 cait            morning jwagner
11:10 magnuse         hiya cait and #koha
11:10 magnuse         3.4 - woohoo!
11:10 cait            hi magnuse
10:59 cait            can't say that often enough
10:59 cait            rangi++
10:52 rangi           (set the browser encoding to utf8 or it messes up the diacritics)
10:52 rangi           http://stats.workbuffer.org/gitdm/3_4.html
10:50 * druthb        sends "leistungsfähig" to leo.org for translation, and nods in agreement.
10:47 adnc            cait, thanks anyway. it works most of the time
10:46 cait            adnc: you are right, - missed that
10:46 alex_a          is there a ranking ?
10:46 adnc            the only information I'm missing is encoding, it works with marc-8
10:46 alex_a          rangi: 19 for me \o/
10:46 adnc            cait, ohh I know this site. I use MARC21 which is not listed there
10:45 cait            he is very leistungsfähig ;)
10:45 cait            no surprise
10:45 cait            hehe
10:45 rangi           oleonard has 188!
10:45 cait            adnc: http://irspy.indexdata.com/full.html?id=Z39.50%3Alibrary.bilgi.edu.tr%3A210%2FINNOPAC
10:45 kmkale          I know, but its really raw yet. Works but raw stuff. Since the customer is sitting on the beta still, I never went back and readied it :(
10:44 rangi           thats the deal :)
10:44 rangi           you pay us to do work, we release it
10:44 rangi           kmkale: we write the contracts so that isnt an issue
10:43 adnc            you mean with the servers?
10:43 cait            hm, could be a problem with your target
10:42 adnc            I'm using z39.50 servers from this site http://listeci.itu.edu.tr/pipermail/tur-iug/2007-January/000259.html normally it works great, but sometimes i get a system error reply when doing a search. could someone please have a look into this list and tell me if there is something missing?
10:42 kmkale          not ready for prime time yet. Also tyhe customer has not yet given the go ahead :(
10:42 cait            it will be here much sooner that we all think
10:41 cait            submit it tomorrow for 3.2.6 :)
10:41 kmkale          I wish I could jave gotten the local images thingi in
10:41 kmkale          :)
10:40 cait            yummy chocolate
10:40 kmkale          aahh commits
10:40 druthb          10?   wow.  :)  I didn't realize I'd done that many.
10:40 kmkale          what chocolates?
10:40 * cait          hands kmkale some chocolate too
10:40 rangi           5 for you kmkale
10:40 jenkins_koha    Frédéric Demians: Update ALL Koha translation files
10:40 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_master build #224: SUCCESS in 41 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/224/
10:40 kmkale          rangi: crongats
10:40 rangi           10 for druthb
10:39 rangi           alex_a has 19
10:39 cait            that's a lot
10:39 rangi           .0
10:39 rangi           you have 81 commits in 3.4
10:39 cait            wow
10:39 rangi           66 people yes
10:39 cait            honestly?
10:39 rangi           66
10:38 cait            commits, but cool numbers
10:38 cait            yay - before yesterday ohloh said 99 - now 111 :D
10:38 rangi           2 secs
10:38 rangi           hm i worked it out the other day
10:36 * druthb        nibbles on chocolate
10:36 cait            rangi: do I have to count or can you tell me how many different names are on that contributurs list? :)
10:36 * cait          offers you some release party chocolate
10:35 druthb          hi
10:35 cait            hi druthb :)
10:35 cait            right :)
10:35 rangi           there always is
10:35 cait            and I think there will be at least one very obvious bug too
10:34 rangi           heh
10:33 cait            in a few years, everybody will spell it like that
10:33 cait            lol
10:31 rangi           its a trend
10:31 rangi           3.2.0 too :-)
10:31 rangi           http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=misc/release_notes/release_notes_3_2_0.txt;h=ee5b918d62e00ebe3afd5e6fe53060cf97556fb8;hb=9c8e493d6403886ddb5b997cef39d27d78ae8de6#l113
10:31 cait            it's magic
10:31 cait            yep
10:30 rangi           heh, at least 6 people all missed that :)
10:30 rangi           in the release notes?
10:29 cait            INTERNATIONALIZTION
10:29 cait            hehe, most normal thing of the world - once something is out in the world, you start seeing the typos
10:24 francharb       ;)
10:24 francharb       yummy
10:24 * cait          shares some chocolate with francharb and rangi
10:24 cait            hehe
10:24 francharb       ;)
10:24 francharb       \0/ party time cait! party time!
10:23 cait            hm
10:20 cait            noone else here for the party?
10:17 cait            rangi++
10:16 rangi           thanks everyone for all your hard work
10:16 cait            whoohoo :)
10:14 rangi           and its out
10:02 rangi           right, tarball built and signed, uploading now
09:59 jenkins_koha    Starting build 224 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
09:55 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Update ALL Koha translation files <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9c8e493d6403886ddb5b997cef39d27d78ae8de6>
09:39 rangi           *nod*
09:35 fredericd       it's a huge commit because any language that have ever entered Koha repo has been updated. Next time, I will only pull updated languages by translators
09:30 rangi           thanks fredericd
07:30 rangi           hi francharb
07:30 francharb       h i all
07:27 rangi           (new installs are fine)
07:26 rangi           time to finish, and for the removing of item data to be streamlined. If you do wish to upgrade please make sure you read the UPGRADE section of the INSTALL document.
07:26 rangi           production delay their upgrade until 3.4.1, due May 22, to give the translators
07:26 rangi           For these reasons we recommend that people who are already running Koha in
07:26 rangi           These changes, in addition to the inclusion of many new features, mean a lot of new strings for translators to translate.
07:25 rangi           i have this note in the release announcement too
07:25 rangi           thank you
07:25 rangi           cait has updated the german opac one already but the rest arent
07:24 rangi           excellent
07:24 fredericd       Ok. Si I will get .po files from Pootle, update them to TT, push them on a branch, and send them back to Pootle
07:24 rangi           yup
07:23 fredericd       safe
07:23 fredericd       is it save to update .po files to TT now?
07:23 fredericd       yes
07:23 rangi           ahh cool, would you ahve time to push up the .po files for 3.4
07:22 fredericd       rangi: yes
07:08 ibeardslee      ahh found it again
06:58 * cait          waves to julian
06:57 rangi           hi julian
06:55 julian          hi #koha
06:52 cait            denying will probably not work
06:52 cait            hm...
06:52 rangi           heh
06:48 wizzyrea_away   you are sleepy ;)
06:48 cait            hm closed wrong window
06:32 rangi           fredericd: around?
06:31 cait            a lotof people around for a holiday :)
06:31 wizzyrea_away   psh its my job, but thx
06:31 cait            hi alex_a
06:31 cait            wizzyrea++
06:27 wizzyrea_away   teh original server is still dead
06:27 wizzyrea_away   most of it is alive, but I actually rebuilt it from backups
06:27 rangi           hi alex_a
06:27 alex_a          hello #koha
06:27 Brooke_         sleepy time at last.
06:27 rangi           most of it is alive again afaict
06:27 cait            ah I see
06:26 Brooke_         wizzyrea ++
06:25 cait            did she have to move it or is ec2 alive again?
06:25 rangi           www.koha-community.org is back, thanks to wizzyrea_away and her super effort
06:25 rangi           good
06:24 cait            how is it going?
06:24 cait            hi rangi :)
06:24 rangi           hi cait
06:22 cait            hi kmkale :)
06:22 cait            woke up
06:22 cait            it's the time I normally leave to work
06:22 kmkale          hi cait
06:21 wizzyrea_away   oh my! you are up so soon?
06:21 Brooke_         guten tag
06:21 cait            morning :)
06:21 * cait          stumbles in
05:54 hdl             with periodicals, you may have those figures.
05:54 wizzyrea_away   oh I am :P
05:53 Brooke_         you're not very away :P
05:53 wizzyrea_away   biggest I looked at was about 100
05:52 hdl             big records, i mean more than 1000 items;
05:52 hdl             where is your biblionumber placed ?
05:52 hdl             Is it showing ok at search results ?
05:52 hdl             rangi: have you made some tests on big records ?
05:42 wahanui         bonjour, Brooke_
05:42 Brooke_         bonjour
05:40 rangi           ahh
05:39 hdl             I am awakening at 6.30 usually
05:38 rangi           ahh the time change confused me i thought it was only 6.30 :)
05:35 hdl             in fact i am at my computer early... ususally awake at 7.30 ;)
05:35 rangi           hi hdl, you are are awake early
05:22 rangi           now we just have to fix that
05:22 rangi           sweet
05:21 kmkale          rangi: YAH!! Just changed cas server url from https port 8443 to http & port 8180 and we are in business.
05:03 * Brooke_       salutes Rangi
05:02 rangi           hi Brooke_
04:59 Brooke_         kia ora!
04:34 jcamins_away    And happy 3.4 (in advance)!
04:33 jcamins_away    Good night, #koha
04:33 jcamins_away    Okay, reindex is a go, and now it is time to sleep.
04:33 rangi           bbiab
04:17 Oak             )
04:17 Oak             :
04:15 rangi           o
04:15 rangi           just gotta get the updated po files everything else is ready to g
04:14 rangi           yep
04:14 Oak             \o
04:13 jcamins_away    So we're at, what, T-4?
04:13 jcamins_away    Well, I _really_ want to be able to do that, anyway.
04:12 * jcamins_away  looks around... oh, I guess that's just me.
04:12 jcamins_away    Especially for people who want to be able to search for books printed by a particular individual.
04:11 rangi           thatd be good
04:11 rangi           cool
04:10 * jcamins_away  's goal for 3.6 is getting DOM indexing for MARC21 biblios.
04:10 rangi           yep
04:10 jcamins_away    That'd be really useful, though.
04:10 rangi           dang
04:10 jcamins_away    Sorry.
04:10 jcamins_away    Imagining it.
04:09 rangi           you did some work letting zebra hand back xml? or am i imagining that?
04:09 jcamins_away    Oh?
04:09 rangi           i had a question for you
04:09 rangi           hey jcamins_away
04:09 * jcamins_away  peeks in. Exciting times.
04:08 rangi           probably emailing the koha-devel list is the easiest way
04:05 kmkale          lets hope they come in today
04:05 kmkale          yep
03:55 rangi           yes you will need to talk to them about how to do it
03:54 * kmkale        is confused about this statement in the wiki "Note: simple sso cas support (no proxy) has been done already by biblibre, is in testing and should be released in Koha 3.2"
03:41 kmkale          good fun for the long weekend ;)
03:40 rangi           never tried it
03:39 kmkale          CAS works for staff interface too?
03:38 kmkale          now if only it can login ;)
03:37 kmkale          whoa I just logged out of the staff interface and got to CAS logout successful page
03:35 rangi           it looks like you need to apply all of them in sequence
03:35 rangi           doesnt look like it
03:34 kmkale          k
03:34 rangi           not sure
03:32 kmkale          rangi: is http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=3813&action=diff this a coombined patch of the propposed patches in 5630?
03:27 rangi           maybe that one too
03:27 huginn          04Bug 5630: enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED, CAS improvements
03:27 rangi           http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5630
03:26 kmkale          thanks rangi
03:26 rangi           checkout the patch there, it might help
03:25 huginn          04Bug 6012: enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, matthias.meusburger, ASSIGNED, Set up a working example of a CAS proxy
03:25 rangi           http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6012
03:25 rangi           ahh they didnt get signed off
03:24 kmkale          3.02.06.000
03:23 jenkins_koha    Galen Charlton: textual improvements to release notes
03:23 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_master build #223: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/223/
03:22 rangi           i know biblibre did some fixes/enhancements for 3.4
03:22 rangi           what version of koha?
03:20 kmkale          s/SGT/TGT/
03:20 kmkale          inconsistent behaviour. Now I am getting Sorry, the CAS login failed. but in the cas debug log I can see the auth was successful and that both the SGT and ST tickets were created :(
03:18 rangi           ive never tried it
03:15 kmkale          but when I try koha cas auth I get CAS is unavailable
03:15 rangi           probably best to talk to the biblibre people
03:15 kmkale          I have got a CAS server running.
03:14 kmkale          rangi: is there some material I can read about CAS with koha?
03:10 kmkale          yep. same here ;)
03:10 rangi           technically :)
03:09 kmkale          holiday today?
03:09 kmkale          hi rangi
03:06 rangi           hi kmkale
03:06 kmkale          Namaskar #koha
02:46 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: textual improvements to release notes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1d4673523d36825806df0ba3827c5139e0c82e53>
02:46 wizzyrea_away   :)
02:45 gmcharlt        ;)
02:45 gmcharlt        you wound me, madam
02:45 rangi           heh
02:45 wizzyrea_away   you didnt delete any Data::Dumper's?
02:45 jenkins_koha    Use !jenkinshelp to get help!
02:45 jenkins_koha    gmcharlt did you mean me? Unknown command 'I'
02:45 gmcharlt        jenkins_koha: I don't think you need be *that* worried about changes to the release notes.  I promise I didn't slip in any blockers
02:45 rangi           if this patch breaks it ... :)
02:44 gmcharlt        heh
02:44 jenkins_koha    Starting build 223 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
02:40 rangi           thanks
02:40 gmcharlt        rangi: patch sent
02:39 brendan_        Looks good :)
02:38 gmcharlt        got it
02:38 brendan_        maybe an 'a' in there
02:38 brendan_        line 399 --> please send patch against
02:38 gmcharlt        :)
02:38 brendan_        I like that it reads D Ruth now :)
02:35 gmcharlt        sounds good
02:35 brendan_        how about SQL formatting improvements when viewing a report?
02:34 brendan_        maybe something else besides much more
02:34 brendan_        "SQL is formatted much more nicely when viewing a report" line 129
02:34 gmcharlt        let's not be ugly Americans now ;)
02:33 brendan_        heh should we comment on the differences between 's' and 'z' ;)
02:33 gmcharlt        got it
02:33 brendan_        same thing here line 113 --> the'My Summary'
02:32 gmcharlt        got it
02:31 brendan_        line 90 - (a space is needed here -->) phone,address
02:28 gmcharlt        sec
02:28 rangi           thanks brendan_
02:28 rangi           gmcharlt: actutaly yeah :-)
02:28 gmcharlt        would you rather I just sent a patch? :)
02:28 * brendan_      will look it over too :)
02:28 gmcharlt        ...
02:28 gmcharlt        s/when an staff/when a staff/
02:27 gmcharlt        s/Notify of fines owing/Notification of fines owed/
02:26 gmcharlt        s/one off/one-off/
02:26 rangi           yes please
02:26 gmcharlt        rangi: want typo corrections for the release notes?
02:24 rangi           pretty much ready to go, just need the .po files
02:24 rangi           http://pastebin.com/1URw7Tvs
02:15 rangi           yep tis a good sign
02:13 gmcharlt        jenkins is happy
02:08 jenkins_koha    Chris Cormack: Bumping version number for release
02:08 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_master build #222: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/222/
01:53 cait1           bye rangi
01:53 cait1           really tired now
01:52 * cait1         waves
01:39 * druthb        waves
01:35 rangi           but yeah im at the time to stop poking at it point
01:35 * cait1         is excited
01:35 rangi           still getting ready
01:35 cait1           ?
01:35 druthb          rangi, congratulations.  :)
01:32 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Bumping version number for release <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b9f0c16ba51bc9be95809e52e0b8ff73dd60943e>
01:29 jenkins_koha    Starting build 222 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
01:24 wahanui         Brooke_ is the best dinner companion a girl could want.
01:24 druthb          wahanui: Brooke_?
01:23 gmcharlt        cait++
01:23 rangi           :)
01:23 cait            closing all those windows on my computer
01:23 rangi           sleep!
01:22 cait            no
01:22 rangi           cait: are you still brushing your teeth???
01:22 druthb          :D
01:22 rangi           yeah
01:22 wahanui         sekjal is a wonderful geek.
01:22 cait            sekjal?
01:21 druthb          tee hee
01:21 wahanui         brendan_ is a big fan of koha or the best boss evar!
01:21 druthb          brendan_?
01:20 cait            he only says that because I feed him so many cookies :)
01:20 wahanui         :)
01:20 cait            wahanui botsnack cookie
01:20 wahanui         i heard cait was a competent programmer AND really sweet.
01:20 druthb          cait?
01:20 wahanui         well, kf is the kind of person that will brighten everyone's day.
01:20 druthb          kf?
01:20 druthb          hm.
01:18 cait            and prowess too
01:18 cait            one fine number sounds def like Brooke_
01:17 druthb          I am *soooo* torn over what to wear to KUDOS, wizzy..  sheesh.
01:16 wizzyrea_away   whoever it was speaks only truth ;)
01:16 wahanui         you are one fine number in a skirt.
01:16 druthb          druthb?
01:16 druthb          Certainly I suspect her on my description.
01:15 druthb          rangi, I suspect Brooke_
01:15 druthb          :)
01:05 wizzyrea_away   as any parent does, I do the best I can :P
01:04 wizzyrea_away   i'm honored that someone thought it apt to make that my description
01:04 * wizzyrea_away looks vaguely in the direction of DC
01:04 cait            :)
01:04 wahanui         wizzyrea is, like, a wonderful mother, colleague, and friend. or a koha poet
01:04 cait            wizzyrea?
01:03 cait            given that... I have a suspicion
01:02 cait            nor in the inactive
01:02 rangi           heh
01:02 cait            prowess is not in my active vocabulary
01:02 * wizzyrea_away is not it
01:02 cait            not me
01:01 rangi           t
01:01 rangi           who did tha?
00:59 wahanui         rangi is, like, a proud Māori whose sense of humour matches his prowess in coding
00:59 cait            rangi?
00:53 cait            and even more because you taught me most things!
00:53 druthb          rangi++
00:53 cait            rangi++
00:53 cait            thx for all your work rangi
00:53 druthb          cait++
00:50 rangi           sleep well, thanks for all your help
00:49 cait            time to brush teeth and get ready to sleep
00:49 cait            :)
00:49 cait            looks like it worked
00:49 cait            hm
00:47 cait            ... overwriting
00:46 rangi           overwrite i think
00:44 cait            or better overwrite
00:43 cait            merge working?
00:40 cait            hm ok, feeling brave
00:39 rangi           so if you do that, they should be in there
00:39 rangi           he hasnt committed them to to a branch yet for me to pull
00:39 rangi           id do it
00:38 cait            thinking about uploading my opac file
00:38 rangi           nope not yet
00:37 rangi           lemme check if frederic has pushed them up
00:35 cait            when do you commit the trnaslations?
00:33 rangi           right
00:32 cait            I will think more about it - but I can mak ethem show up
00:32 cait            it's ok
00:31 cait            that seems wrong to me when the budget is not restricted to the library
00:31 cait            it seems you have to select a library
00:30 cait            hm ok
00:30 rangi           confusing
00:29 cait            I have one active budget and  2 funds - no restriction no owner and no library
00:28 cait            hm.
00:27 rangi           table is showing for me
00:26 rangi           hmm no thats wrong
00:25 rangi           i have a suspiciion
00:25 rangi           hmmm
00:24 cait            my admin user, didn't change
00:23 cait            I changed the budget_owner id to 1
00:22 cait            superlibraian permission  gives me the edit links for funds but the table is still missing
00:21 cait            checking next
00:21 rangi           hmm made by your superlibrarian or made by kohaadmin?
00:20 cait            not restricted in any way
00:20 cait            hm, but they are not owned
00:20 rangi           i think its to do with the owner?
00:19 cait            kohaadmin can see the table and edit the funds
00:19 cait            ok
00:18 cait            and I am not kohaadmin
00:18 cait            I am not superlibrarian but have all acq permissions
00:18 cait            and can't edit or delete my funds
00:18 rangi           thats weird alright
00:17 cait            my budget table has vanished again
00:17 cait            a last one
00:17 cait            ok
00:17 cait            oh
00:16 rangi           yay
00:16 jenkins_koha    Chris Cormack: Fixing typo in the release notes
00:16 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_master build #221: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/221/
00:16 rangi           ah ha
00:16 cait            so both mysteries are solved
00:16 cait            :)
00:16 cait            it requires late or missing issues
00:16 cait            no, that's ok too - see above
00:16 rangi           lemme check the serials now
00:16 rangi           cool
00:16 rangi           update table aqbasket set closedate = '2010-10-10';
00:16 cait            yep. that's it
00:15 rangi           you should be abble to change it in the db
00:15 cait            created it before, but basket groups was almost the last thing I tested
00:15 rangi           ahh yeah that would do it
00:15 cait            I closed the basket after midnight
00:15 cait            ok
00:13 cait            hm k
00:13 rangi           definitely nice to fix, maybe for 3.4.1
00:12 rangi           but not a new one i dont think
00:12 rangi           yes, it seems like a bug to me
00:11 cait            but that would mean that libraries leaving them open cannever use late orders?
00:11 rangi           can you change the closedate to last year
00:11 rangi           actually in the db
00:11 cait            hm... perhaps close the group too?
00:11 rangi           hmm
00:11 cait            my baskets are closed
00:11 cait            what do you mean by closing?
00:11 rangi           see if that makes it show up
00:10 rangi           yeah, try closing one
00:10 rangi           ahh that was a paste ting
00:10 cait            s/to/2
00:10 rangi           thats not gonna work
00:10 cait            I have to closed baskets?
00:10 rangi           also INTERVAEL
00:10 rangi           try that
00:10 rangi           so you need to have closed an order
00:10 cait            ugh
00:10 rangi           but thats what it does currently
00:10 rangi           i hate that query
00:09 rangi           WHERE (closdate < DATE_SUB(CURDATE( ),INTERVAEL $delay DAY)                                                             AND (datereceived = '' OR datereceived IS NULL))
00:09 rangi           ELECT DISTINCT aqbasket.booksellerid, aqbooksellers.name                                                            FROM aqorders LEFT JOIN aqbasket ON aqorders.basketno=aqbasket.basketno                                                 LEFT JOIN aqbooksellers ON aqbasket.booksellerid = aqbooksellers.id
00:09 cait            so only acq remains
00:09 cait            ok - the list in serials will only work when you have a vendor with  a missing or late issue
00:07 rangi           could be lemme check the actual code
00:06 cait            perhaps it's one day off?
00:06 cait            fill the list I mean with the vendors in my search results
00:06 cait            if a search with delay 0 will bring up orders - it shoudl bring up the vendortoo?
00:06 cait            it dos not mach
00:06 cait            but if it does that
00:06 cait            hm
00:05 rangi           i thik its only getting ones that do have late orders?
00:05 rangi           my %supplierlist = GetBooksellersWithLateOrders($delay);
00:04 cait            hm, seems both use a function from c4?
00:02 rangi           will look into the code tha generates it now
00:02 rangi           yes filter is broken for me too