Time Nick Message 22:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=813 enhancement, P2, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED, OPAC virtual shelves should store comments 22:01 cait jcamins: what do you think about bug 813 21:47 jcamins A web service thing. 21:46 adnc what is ILS-DI? 21:24 adnc jcamins, thanks I'll look for it. i don't understand what it is 21:23 jcamins http://www.oclc.org/dewey/versions/webdewey/ 21:22 jcamins adnc: WebDewey? 21:19 adnc has someone got a description of Dewey Decimal Classification? 21:14 jcamins Hm. Ah well. 21:14 cait a search for transfer brings up some more suspects, but I don't really remember 21:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6004 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, checking in an item that needs to be transferred home, and is on-hold for a patron, causes dual transfer message box 21:13 cait bug 6004 21:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5800 normal, P3, ---, ian.walls, NEW, Hold Policy "home library only" incompatible with CircControl "patron home library" 21:12 jcamins Bug 5800? 21:11 cait there was a bug ian commented on 21:10 cait hm 21:09 jcamins Right. 21:09 cait you mean not the one with return from the borrower's account right? 21:08 cait hm 21:08 jcamins cait: do you recall a bug about returns not triggering a transfer to the item's home library? 20:59 jcamins I think it means that I need to bake a gazillion cookies. 20:59 jcamins *? 20:59 jcamins What does that mean. 20:59 jcamins Holiday? 20:58 cait remember: easter holidays 20:54 adnc ;) 20:54 adnc i thought i might ask for koha 3.4 20:53 cait hi adnc 20:53 adnc hi cait 20:53 cait adnc: I think rangi is not around 20:49 adnc rangi, ping 16:42 * cait is translating 16:40 paul_p hi cait. Just here a few seconds to launch a long script for Aix-Marseille universities ;-) 16:39 cait hi paul_P 16:16 cait magnuse++ 16:05 * magnuse will try to get that recipe written down... 16:04 jcamins Mmm. Pizza. 16:04 * magnuse wanders off to make pizza... 16:04 magnuse sounds kind of painful... 16:03 cait and I got the headache 16:03 cait OO 16:03 jcamins http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AL3qpCbJqM 16:03 jcamins All at once. 16:03 jcamins I have the entire score, all 29 songs, stuck in my head. 16:03 jcamins It's a show. 16:02 magnuse is it a song? 16:02 * jcamins has How to Succeed in Business Without Really Trying stuck in his head. 15:57 * cait cries a little and goes to cook rice 15:50 cait but guided reports does not work 15:50 cait hm 15:50 jcamins cait: no you shouldn't. 15:49 * cait should not try to fix bugs for things she does not even use 15:49 cait grrr 15:48 druthb Whew! Got the data loaded for two go-lives. Now just some setup stuff.... this girl's gonna get to bed at a reasonable hour tonight, maybe. 15:44 jcamins magnuse: no, I figured I did something wrong since I couldn't reproduce it in my test VM. 15:43 magnuse jcamins: did you make a bug for it? 15:42 magnuse me neither 15:41 jcamins magnuse: I have no idea what caused it, though. 15:41 Ahmuck hi magnuse 15:41 magnuse hiya Ahmuck 15:40 magnuse u huh? 15:40 jcamins Only on one system, though. 15:40 jcamins magnuse: yes. 15:38 magnuse has anyone else seen all subfields in the cataloguing screens expanded? 15:38 magnuse o/ 15:38 druthb hi, magnuse! :D 15:37 Oak Hello magnuse :) 15:36 magnuse hehe 15:35 wahanui Sisyphos is probably spelt neither druthb nor cait. 15:35 cait Sisyphos 15:35 cait but feeling like s. 15:35 cait I am trying 15:34 magnuse cait++ # for closing bugs 15:34 magnuse hi cait and Oak 15:34 Oak Hello cait :) 15:34 cait hi Oak and magnus 15:31 Oak \o 15:21 wahanui :) 15:21 cait wahanui botsnack peanut butter cookie 15:20 druthb lol 15:20 Brooke_ bah I'm off 15:20 Brooke_ botsnack wahanui peanut butter cookie 15:20 cait lol 15:19 wahanui i guess Sisyphus is spelt neither druthb nor cait. 15:19 Brooke_ Sisyphus? 15:12 * Brooke_ sighs at the prospect of eventually getting to German museums housing neat stuff to drool over. 15:12 Brooke_ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nekyia_Staatliche_Antikensammlungen_1494_n2.jpg 15:11 Brooke_ -us warm the cold, Roman, cockles of Brooke's "heart", though. 15:10 Brooke_ Σίσυφος 15:10 Brooke_ it's technically os but who's counting 15:09 cait I remembered the name, but not how to spell it :) 15:09 * Brooke_ giggles. 15:09 druthb That's the fellow. 15:09 jcamins Sisyphus? :) 15:08 cait trying to clean up the database a little... but this is a task for the man with the rock and the hill. 15:06 druthb I'd think so, yah. 15:02 cait missing table in patch - failed qa ok? 15:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5877 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED, Offline circulation improvements : upload all files, apply at once 15:01 cait bug 5877 14:57 jcamins Found it. 14:55 jcamins Does anyone have an example of using runtime parameters for dates? 14:55 * druthb takes one and nibbles on it. 14:54 * jcamins distributes peanut butter cookies. 14:54 cait ? 14:48 Brooke_ Cautus enim metuit foveam lupus... 14:47 * Brooke_ eyes this naughty, naughty title page with extreme suspicion. 14:43 druthb http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lingonberry_jam 14:43 * Brooke_ needs a decent wörterbuch... 14:42 cait 7of9? 14:41 Brooke_ clearly cait would not have such unpure Star Trek thoughts on her own without some other ratbag nerd putting them there with earlier ramblings. 14:40 Brooke_ hehehehe 14:40 * cait read klingonberry 14:40 cait lingonberry? 14:39 Brooke_ plus, I still have a bottle of Hendricks for eventually. 14:39 Brooke_ or peanut butter cookies. 14:39 Brooke_ not when wild rice has been mentioned :P 14:39 druthb speaking of nice things, Brooke_, I'm making some toast with lingonberry preserves...want a slice? 14:38 druthb :P 14:38 * Brooke_ whispers that this is why Druthb can't have nice things. 14:37 cait lol 14:37 * Brooke_ goes back in the corner to mumble about cataloguing. 14:37 * druthb harrumphs at Brooke_. 14:37 Brooke_ just 9 nuts though. Not 8 or 10. That ruins it. 14:36 * Brooke_ wants proper salmon, fed on hazelnuts, with no mistakes this time goddamnit! 14:35 cait it's wild rice mixed with normal 14:35 Brooke_ pfft freezer. 14:35 Brooke_ and is it wild rice? 14:35 cait the freezer - I have no idea 14:34 Brooke_ what's the origin of the salmon? 14:34 jcamins Alt-024x, I think (where 'x' is to be replaced by the appropriate number... maybe 0248?) 14:34 cait so I could get to the right drive for repairing the settings I broke before 14:34 cait druthb: I only know that shift + ö will produce a : from my dos time 14:33 cait druthb: hehe 14:33 * Brooke_ resumes dooling. 14:32 Brooke_ salmon and rice 14:32 * druthb doesn't have the key combination for ö in her head, either. 14:32 cait salmon and rice with roasted pine nuts perhaps ... 14:32 cait hm... dinner 14:32 cait königsberger but the rest is right - and I only made them that one time! 14:31 * druthb didn't look it up. 14:31 druthb did I spell that right, cait? 14:31 druthb I had something in there about her konigsberger klopse mit salzkartoffeln for a long time. 14:30 wahanui Brooke_: I forgot brooke_ 14:30 Brooke_ wahanui forget brooke_ 14:30 wahanui Brooke_, I didn't have anything matching brooke 14:30 Brooke_ wahanui forget brooke 14:30 Brooke_ but I couldn't best the one that was already in there 14:30 druthb :) 14:30 wahanui wizzyrea is a wonderful mother, colleague, and friend. or a koha poet 14:30 druthb wahanui: wizzyrea? 14:30 * Brooke_ was trying to think of a good one for cait the other day 14:29 cait oh no, my secret... 14:29 Brooke_ boo! 14:29 druthb lol 14:29 wahanui kf is probably cait 14:29 druthb wahanui: kf? 14:29 wahanui cait is kf 14:29 druthb wahanui: cait? 14:29 cait butnot very competent using the later command 14:28 wahanui cait is a competent programmer AND really sweet. 14:28 druthb wahanui: cait? 14:28 * Brooke_ s machismo is prolly not gonna allow that to change, regrettably... 14:28 druthb take the hint? 14:27 * Brooke_ is not sure what to do with that... 14:27 Brooke_ >:| 14:27 wahanui somebody said Brooke_ was the best dinner companion a girl could want. 14:27 cait Brooke_? 14:27 * druthb eyes Brooke_ evilly. 14:27 Brooke_ tee hee 14:27 wahanui rumour has it druthb is one fine number in a skirt 14:27 druthb wahanui: druthb? 14:27 Brooke_ :| 14:27 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn. 14:27 huginn cait: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready 14:27 cait @later help 14:27 druthb :D 14:27 wahanui well, Brooke_ is the best dinner companion a girl could want. 14:27 druthb wahanui: Brooke_? 14:27 Brooke_ yahoo mangled it, sorry for the confusion 14:27 Brooke_ adnc - saw that after I downloaded it to me desk 14:26 cait *sighs* 14:26 cait I confused the bug numbers too... 14:26 adnc not a third 14:26 adnc Brooke_, its actually the whole page 14:26 cait can one delete an message from huginn? 14:26 Brooke_ we moved out 14:26 Brooke_ and welllll 14:26 Brooke_ but the wrong people moved in 14:26 cait ok 14:26 Brooke_ I was amazed on moving in to mah last place that there wasn't a trash smell since we were next to the trash room 14:26 * druthb blinks 14:26 wahanui jcamins is supposed to be an outstanding cook. or well-traveled and brilliant. or trying to think of a solution, but short of a set of three sysprefs (ShelfBrowserUsesLocation, ShelfBrowserUsesCcode, and ShelfBrowserUsesHomeBranch), I don't really have any ideas. 14:26 druthb wahanui: jcamins? 14:26 druthb hm. 14:26 Brooke_ that's usually how it is 14:25 jcamins Did I mention that it turns out that the previous tenants in this apartment *caused* the roach problem, and for six years refused to have the exterminator come? 14:25 cait jcamins: I will be glad to help you with that - in exchange for cookies ;) 14:25 * Brooke_ didn't see any roaches in eNZed suckers. 14:25 druthb stinkbugs, yes. an occasional spider, sure. but no roaches. 14:24 jcamins And that'll make learning German much easier. 14:24 Brooke_ pfft 14:24 jcamins cait: okay, I'm sold. 14:24 cait you should move to Germany - don't have seen a roach in Konstanz ;) 14:24 * druthb has not seen one in my building in the nearly two years we've been here. 14:24 Brooke_ it depends on how bad one's neighbours are or possibly how bad one's building management is. 14:23 jcamins I guess that hinges on one crucial issue- how bad is DC's roach problem? 14:23 Brooke_ oh no, trust me, I'd be glued to your window like a strange cat. 14:23 * jcamins isn't so sure of that, Brooke_. 14:23 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 14:23 cait @later tell eythian accounts rewrite even 14:23 jcamins When they come out of the oven sure. :) 14:23 * Brooke_ points out that he's lucky he lives in The City and not DC. 14:23 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 14:23 cait @later tell eythian is there a bug for your holds rewrite I could link things like bug 2237 to? 14:22 cait share? 14:22 cait yay! 14:22 * Brooke_ drools again. 14:21 jcamins :D 14:21 jcamins Yep. 14:21 cait cookies? 14:20 jcamins Okay, the state of the world has improved a bit. 14:19 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 2246] Label printing doesn't work with Unicode characters <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2246> 14:14 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 14:14 cait @later tell rangi can nozebra bugs like 2178 be marked as wontfix? 14:13 Brooke_ but I also suspect that their entry will suck arse. 14:13 * Brooke_ suspects heavily that worldcat has an entry for this. 14:10 Brooke_ can I trouble you for a verso picture? that should be the back of the title page. 14:10 Brooke_ good good 14:10 Brooke_ and it is droemer 14:09 Brooke_ arabic calligraphy 14:09 Brooke_ ooooh la la 14:08 Brooke_ this looks much better on me desktop 14:08 Brooke_ yahoo mangled it a wee bit 14:08 Brooke_ ah ha 14:07 Brooke_ virtual food is a related work to bullshite, so my supply is limitless 14:06 Brooke_ mebbe it *is* a virtual peanut butter cookie that jcamins made while you were /away ;P 14:06 * cait takes the chocolate chip cookie anyway 14:06 cait this is not the same a as a virtual peanut butter cookie from jcamins 14:05 * Brooke_ gives cait a virtual cookie of her choosing. 14:05 * Brooke_ should call by jcamins' place and put it to rights for the good of the community. 14:05 * cait adds the sad puppy look 14:05 * cait looks a bit lost at jcamins 14:05 cait cookies? 14:05 Brooke_ cait that is unpossible even for a computer :P 14:04 jcamins Also, everything from our kitchen is still piled up in the living room. 14:04 Brooke_ but when I was luxuriating in mah self designed kitchen I was still too spoilt to cook very often. 14:04 * cait ducks 14:04 cait Brooke_: don't you think you may make it a bit overly complicated? 14:04 jcamins We never have guests, so we don't use it much. 14:04 Brooke_ I'd blame this on an ill designed kitchen 14:04 jcamins I wanted a serving bowl. 14:04 jcamins Better to save those for my baking frenzy later on. 14:04 jcamins The tricky part was that I *didn't* want the mixing bowls. 14:03 jcamins Shari found the bowl I wanted. 14:03 * Brooke_ wants the whole durn thing, even if it's white space or seemingly unimportant. 14:03 Brooke_ adnc - got it, but it's like mebbe a third of the page. 14:03 * druthb s mixing bowl is in the dishwasher; the minion used it for some-concoction-or-other last night. 14:02 * Brooke_ s mixing bowl is collecting dust behind her on the trunks near the window. 14:01 * Brooke_ drools. 14:01 jcamins The only problem is I can't find the bowl I'd use for it. 14:01 jcamins I've decided to bake peanut butter cookies while I'm waiting for the butter to soften. 14:01 Brooke_ How about them cookies? 14:01 Brooke_ <.< 14:01 jcamins Mmm. Cookies. 14:01 Brooke_ >.> 14:00 druthb oooo...yeah, space_librarian would be handy to have around. We'd have you outnumbered, and she'd bring tasty cookies, too. 13:59 * druthb is not a man, and so denies that knowledge. 13:59 Brooke_ or anitsirk. 13:59 * Brooke_ was thinking space_librarian, actually. 13:59 * Brooke_ points out that she is the most stubborn substance known to man. 13:59 druthb we don need no jransom. Cait n I have you cornered! 13:59 Brooke_ thankfully the kiwis are asleep or I could run the risk of being even more outnumbered. 13:58 * druthb helpfully suggests that arguing with a brick wall--or an irritated rhinocerous--is probably more productive. 13:57 druthb Well, you *could* argue with Ruth, but it wouldn't do much good. 13:57 Brooke_ feh. 13:57 Brooke_ can't argue with Ruth. 13:57 Brooke_ buttt 13:56 Brooke_ the diesel gerbil that powers my Deutsch didn't just get up by himself this morning. 13:55 * druthb vouches for cait's innocence. She has an alibi. 13:55 * cait is innocent 13:55 * Brooke_ runs off to check the email 13:55 * Brooke_ points the finger of blame at cait. 13:54 adnc i didn't give the mail a subject, it might be in your spam folder 13:54 Brooke_ don't know where that came from. 13:54 Brooke_ :) 13:54 adnc ahhh 13:53 Brooke_ wunderbar! 13:53 adnc outstanding? 13:52 Brooke_ outstanding 13:52 adnc i've a picture of the inside title page 13:52 Brooke_ the back cover is also intriguing. 13:52 Brooke_ (heck having the whole bloody book is nicest, but that's a blocker at a distance.) 13:51 Brooke_ in case there's a difference 13:51 Brooke_ make sure it's the title page, not the cover proper, though also having the cover would be nice 13:51 Brooke_ abesottedphoenix @ yahoo.com 13:50 adnc if you query me an email adress, i'll send you the coverpicture 13:49 adnc Brooke_, e-mail? 13:48 Brooke_ once the gerbil that powers my mind has chewed it over. 13:48 adnc Brooke_, moment 13:48 Brooke_ send it back 13:48 Brooke_ and I will eventually 13:48 Brooke_ eventually 13:48 Brooke_ send me a picture of the title page, please 13:48 adnc yep 13:48 Brooke_ adnc 13:47 * Brooke_ has revealed too much already. 13:47 cait better go and find another bug 13:47 Brooke_ No. 13:47 cait do I want to ask ? 13:46 Brooke_ skairt of the gay cataloguing mafia, as is proper. 13:46 Brooke_ not skairt of you 13:46 Brooke_ pfft 13:46 druthb chicken. 13:46 druthb ooo....Brooke_, gonna put on the shiny metallic-grey bodysuit that goes with that name? 13:45 * druthb has a mild case of it. 13:45 adnc ;) 13:45 druthb Once it gets to a certain point, there's no saving you. 13:45 Brooke_ resistance is futile 13:45 Brooke_ cataloguing gets everyone eventually 13:44 adnc right! 13:44 adnc ahh 13:44 cait to get you out before cataloging gets you 13:44 adnc rescure plan? 13:44 druthb hehe 13:43 cait druthb: I think we should think up a rescue plan for adnc ;) 13:43 * Brooke_ whistles at druthb. 13:42 Brooke_ Is it Droemer Knaur 1988 or 1996 or 1999 or none of the above? 13:40 Brooke_ just like I've no idea what I'ma do in India, but I'll burn that bridge when I get there. 13:40 Brooke_ I am nearly totally illiterate in Chinese 13:40 jcamins Unless it's in German or Chinese, in which case I'd find reading it pretty darn hard, too. 13:40 * Brooke_ posits that George Sue would have no difficulty interpreting. 13:39 adnc simple to read, difficult to interprete 13:39 Brooke_ The Art of War 13:39 adnc whichone? 13:39 * Brooke_ cheated. 13:38 Brooke_ by the way, that is one of my favourite books 13:38 adnc ok 13:38 cait adnc: different thing in koha - ignore me :) 13:38 Brooke_ (they can *hear* cataloguing errors at 10 miles.) 13:38 adnc cait, mine is utf8 and works really great, just some of pollux records are with strange chars 13:38 Brooke_ it's okay, I won't tell the gay cataloguing mafia that you need a spanking, jcamins :P 13:37 jcamins cait: it should be defaulting to UTF-8. 13:37 Brooke_ and there are a lot for books they don't actually hold. 13:37 Brooke_ they have tonnes of records, too 13:37 * Brooke_ nods. 13:37 cait jcamins: importing my usual sample records - default encoding breaks the umlauts, have to set it to utf-8 now 13:37 * jcamins_away is very tired, and even he didn't get tricked by that statement, Brooke_. :P 13:37 adnc they must have millions of books 13:37 adnc unbelievable, they have most of the books i was looking for records 13:37 Brooke_ how the Library of Congress looks inside? 13:36 Brooke_ Sandy Berman used to work for LOC ;) (This is a joke. A very big joke.) 13:36 adnc Brooke_, are there pictures somewhere how it loooks inside? 13:36 * Brooke_ isn't sure who to defend. 13:36 cait hehe let me check 13:36 jcamins_away cait: what? 13:36 Brooke_ they made a mistake in hiring. 13:36 * cait glares at jcamins 13:36 * Brooke_ would probably never actually work there unless uh 13:35 cait jcamins: I feel like I have to blame you for this ... 13:35 Brooke_ with the Taxonomists. 13:35 Brooke_ in the Lion's Den 13:35 Brooke_ I was there Tuesday last 13:34 adnc does someone work for the library of congress, or has someone ever been there? 13:34 * Brooke_ was actually looking for a Clavell since the dumb Library didn't have her Lackey. 13:33 Brooke_ since he was such a popular author 13:33 Brooke_ and there are usually tonnes of those anytime Clavell is involved 13:33 Brooke_ sometimes when there are multiple editions of a work that happens 13:33 Brooke_ I can tell a bait and switch for a title page a mile away ;) 13:33 Brooke_ which is why I said it was busted and I don't trust it ;) 13:33 Brooke_ yeah 13:32 adnc http://www.amazon.de/Die-Kunst-Krieges-Sun-Tsu/dp/3426270811/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1303651991&sr=8-5 this is the book, but looks different inside than mine 13:31 Brooke_ I think that Russian vocabulary book in German neigh kilt me. 13:31 * Brooke_ has notches in her belt for a bagpipe chanter, a piece of AV cable, a cricket bat, and other assorted weird things catalogued. 13:30 * Brooke_ is a terrible record thief. 13:30 adnc ;) 13:30 adnc cait, I did, i'm just asking to learn it 13:29 cait or you could take that records of ours ... ;) 13:29 Brooke_ but the inside the cover bit is busted. 13:29 adnc Brooke_, let me manage one, moment 13:29 Brooke_ and Amazon had it 13:29 Brooke_ usually I go to Amazon 13:29 Brooke_ so take one, if possible 13:29 Brooke_ which is why I want to see a picture :P 13:28 Brooke_ so what you have in your hot little hands is complex 13:28 Brooke_ and there isn't going to be a translator involved 13:28 cait adnc: can of worms... 13:28 Brooke_ because it isn't muddied by a proper author 13:28 Brooke_ that one is different 13:28 jcamins_away I'll find an example of a title page. 13:28 Brooke_ BUT 13:28 Brooke_ http://catalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?v4=3&ti=1,3&SEQ=20110424092608&Search%5FArg=out%20in%20the%20stacks&Search%5FCode=GKEY%5E%2A&CNT=100&type=quick&PID=8nPgV_mXaO7IMoox91Ib2DM5x9&SID=1 13:28 cait so in your case put the Sunzi. Herausgegeben von ... in $c 13:28 Brooke_ would be one for a book that doesn't have your problem 13:27 Brooke_ t 13:27 Brooke_ edited and with an introduction by Michael Car 13:27 cait jcamins might correct me, but it means listing the part with the persons (authors etc. ) as listed on the title page in $c (which is not a real explanation though) 13:27 Brooke_ for a bad example 13:27 Brooke_ well 13:27 jcamins_away Good thing, because sleepwalking is *definitely* on the cards for today. ;) 13:27 Brooke_ and he can sleep walk through what I'm double and triple checking. 13:27 adnc entire statement of responsibility, what does that mean? 13:27 * jcamins_away is very, very tired. His reindex failed again last night, so he was up about 2 hours in the middle of the night. 13:26 Brooke_ jcamins is officially a much better cataloguer than I'll ever be 13:26 Brooke_ but yes 13:26 cait I am not sure I can really translate it 13:26 Brooke_ and I sure as heck ain't puttin' it through the sausage grinder that is my awful german. 13:26 jcamins_away Brooke_: ah, yes, very wise. 13:26 * Brooke_ doesn't usually catalogue blind, cause that's how she gets bit 13:26 adnc cait, ahh nice 13:26 adnc cait, was genau bedeutet "entire statement of responsibility"? 13:25 Brooke_ a picture of the title page :P 13:25 cait adnc: jcamins is a pro cataloger 13:25 Brooke_ or if they're looking at summat else 13:25 cait jcamins_away: I think so too, I missed at first that Sunzi was the author :) 13:25 jcamins_away Brooke_: a picture of what? 13:25 Brooke_ if they're looking at Sun Tzus work 13:25 Brooke_ since I don't know for certain 13:25 jcamins_away Not just the main author. 13:25 Brooke_ I wanna picture of it jcamins 13:25 Brooke_ yeah I know 13:25 cait no, it's a proprietary software 13:25 jcamins_away Brooke_: I haven't read any context, but 245c contains the entire statement of responsibility. 13:24 wahanui i heard koha was a free software ils see http://koha-community.org for more info 13:24 adnc koha? 13:24 adnc does it run with coha? 13:24 cait it's a software called pica 13:24 adnc the userinterface on that website 13:23 cait for the catalog? 13:23 adnc cait, what frontend do they use at bsz-bw? 13:23 Brooke_ to make sure mah gut is right 13:23 adnc Brooke_, noo, not yet, thanks 13:23 Brooke_ but gimme a little more dig time 13:23 Brooke_ because that's generally only the proper author 13:23 Brooke_ 245c I have a gut reaction to stay away from 13:22 Brooke_ have you seen http://www.slc.bc.ca/cheats/marc.htm yet? 13:22 adnc cait, doesnt matter I like that library aswell ;) 13:22 cait http://swb.bsz-bw.de/DB=2.1/PPNSET?PPN=081727429 13:22 cait wrong link 13:22 cait ups 13:21 cait http://catalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?v4=1&ti=1,1&SEQ=20110424090446&Search%5FArg=Seven%20Brave%20Women&Search%5FCode=GKEY%5E%2A&CNT=100&type=quick&PID=6TagO66z-i0WOO7qIFf9J3nOEuqI&SID=1 13:21 cait $c starts with Sunzi 13:21 cait ah right 13:20 cait editor = herausgeber 13:20 cait that looks ok 13:20 adnc whatever it means 13:19 adnc and 7004 has "edt." 13:19 cait so you can put him in but you don't need to -in our union catalog at least 13:19 cait hm, the problem is some things might be optional 13:19 adnc 700 has personname 700a 13:19 adnc ? 13:19 adnc cait, two fields 13:19 cait is there a note somewhere else too? 100, 700? 13:19 adnc there also is 700 filled with the person that is owning the copyright 13:18 cait it should go in 2 fields 13:18 adnc ;) 13:18 cait ah pollux :) 13:17 adnc there it goes to 245c 13:17 adnc i found a record with z39.50 from pollux 13:17 adnc ahh 13:16 * Brooke_ doesn't want to teach someone the wrong thing about cataloguing. 13:16 Brooke_ and triple check 13:16 Brooke_ gotta double check 13:16 adnc ohhh 13:16 Brooke_ gimme a sec 13:16 Brooke_ amazon's inside the cover thing is busted for that title 13:16 Brooke_ crummy 13:15 adnc verlag 13:15 adnc cait, yes 13:15 cait Brooke: where do the editors go? 13:15 cait $c is Herausgegeben mit..... 13:15 cait droemer is the publisher i guess? 13:14 Brooke_ hang on 13:14 adnc the third sentence where does this needs to be recorded? 13:13 adnc where the slash are newline indicators 13:13 adnc Sunzi / Die Kunst des Krieges / Herausgegeben und mit einem Vorwort von James Clavell / Droemer 13:13 Brooke_ added an ly inadvertantly 13:13 Brooke_ eep 13:12 Brooke_ (it's sometimes different from the actually cover of the book, but you can note that.) 13:12 adnc if the "titelblatt" has something like this 13:12 Brooke_ the chief source is the title page 13:12 cait 245 a is Hauptsachtitel b is Zusatz/Zusätze zum Hauptsachtitel c ist Verfasser und andere Angaben wie auf dem Titelblatt (afaik) 13:11 Brooke_ so in general it's what's ON the book 13:11 adnc 245 is for the exact written in the front page? 13:11 Brooke_ 245 is the title statement 13:11 adnc cait, I wouldnt mind 13:11 Brooke_ but she's prolly enjoying the holiday 13:11 adnc 245 is for the exact type 13:11 Brooke_ nengard knows much much more than me 13:11 cait adnc: you know - you will end up being a real librarian soon :) 13:11 Brooke_ feel free to ask more questions. Cataloguing is definitely confusing 13:10 Brooke_ :D 13:10 adnc sure, thats wonderfull 13:10 Brooke_ does that make any sense? 13:10 Brooke_ but is not technically responsible for the work itself 13:10 adnc yes, thats what I understood, great 13:10 Brooke_ that a Patron would prolly look for in the catalogue 13:10 Brooke_ someone that's contributed quite a bit 13:09 Brooke_ and so forth 13:09 Brooke_ an actor 13:09 Brooke_ an illustrator 13:09 Brooke_ a translator 13:09 Brooke_ could be 13:09 Brooke_ so 13:09 Brooke_ 700 is kind of the field that is for cool people that are not actually the proper author 13:09 Brooke_ as I told cait 13:09 Brooke_ no 13:09 adnc 700 are field which cover everyone involved in creating the book? 13:08 adnc cait, great 13:08 Brooke_ Sorry! 13:08 Brooke_ you're talking in main and I'm totally whispering 13:08 Brooke_ doh 13:07 cait and 245 c like it's written on the front page 13:06 cait 7000 a your illustrators name 13:05 adnc in terms of Illustration: my nme? 13:04 cait 700 13:04 adnc whichone does it need to be? 13:04 cait http://catalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?v4=1&ti=1,1&SEQ=20110424090446&Search%5FArg=Seven%20Brave%20Women&Search%5FCode=GKEY%5E%2A&CNT=100&type=quick&PID=6TagO66z-i0WOO7qIFf9J3nOEuqI&SID=1 13:04 cait look at that example she gave me: 13:04 adnc ohh 13:04 cait adnc: we were wrong about the field, I asked Brooke_ :) 12:57 adnc cait, thanks 12:57 cait adnc: rangi and eythian are not around - you would have to ask them 12:57 cait debian.koha-community.org - think it's a bit too early for them. 12:56 cait Brooke_: he mans the debian packages 12:56 cait 14 - batch item delete screen? 12:54 Brooke_ so what are you looking for that isn't already up at http://download.koha-community.org/? 12:52 Brooke_ do they really use NYPL more than the German z39.50 targets? 12:50 Brooke_ http://opus.bsz-bw.de/swop/volltexte/2010/902/pdf/koha_berlin2010.pdf 12:50 Brooke_ slide 14 is definitely exampley :P 12:49 cait plz tell me 12:49 cait cataloguing menus? 12:49 cait I am lost - nothing is faked there :) 12:49 Brooke_ cait: some of the example data for the cataloguing menus ;) 12:48 cait fake data creation? 12:48 cait sorry Brooke 12:48 Brooke_ what do you mean by "packaged?" 12:47 adnc are there any release dates for packaged koha 3.4? 12:46 Brooke_ but someone would have to kinda know Koha to be on to that ;) 12:46 Brooke_ some of it's canned 12:45 Brooke_ then captioning 12:45 Brooke_ so much fake data creation 12:44 * Brooke_ was oogling your sechsy slides while you were away. 12:44 Brooke_ :D 12:44 cait wb Brooke_ 12:36 Brooke_ back 11:50 Brooke_ bbiab 11:43 cait :) 11:41 Brooke_ katrin++ 11:40 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6257] MARC documentation links cause javascript error <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6257> 11:24 cait kia ora Brooke :) 11:23 Brooke_ kia ora 10:21 adnc hello 09:18 cait hi #koha 05:24 Brooke_ but that has technically expired 05:24 Brooke_ kowhai of sorts to Chris if one wanted to be technical 05:24 Brooke_ nuffin really 05:18 pianohacker What was your role? 05:13 Brooke_ not that I do much 05:13 Brooke_ 3.4's out so I feel half free :D 05:12 pianohacker Alright, busy end of semester. You? 05:11 Brooke_ how's it? 05:11 pianohacker *Brooke_ 05:11 pianohacker Hey Brook 05:11 Brooke_ hey jesse :D 04:50 druthb hiyas. :) 04:50 Brooke_ Evening, miss. 03:35 Brooke_ kia ora! 01:22 huginn jcamins_away: The operation succeeded. 01:22 jcamins_away @later tell gmcharlt Do you have any idea how to configure matching rules to match on 035? You seem to have implemented most of the matching rules features. 01:20 jcamins_away Probably not, no sensible person would be working now. 01:19 jcamins_away gmcharlt: around?