IRC log for #koha, 2011-04-25

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07:06 rangi evening
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07:46 cait hi #koha
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07:51 cait hi SpaceLibrarian_home :)
07:51 SpaceLibrarian_home hey cait! Happy Easter. :)
07:51 cait happy easter :)
07:56 rangi hey SpaceLibrarian_home and cait
07:56 cait hi rangi :) happy easter to you too :)
07:56 SpaceLibrarian_home happy ANZAC day. Had a good weekend?
07:56 rangi just updated launchpad
07:57 rangi
07:57 rangi SpaceLibrarian_home: yep not too bad
07:57 cait isn't today a holiday for you too?
07:57 rangi yep
07:57 rangi SpaceLibrarian_home and I are doing training tomorrow tho
07:57 SpaceLibrarian_home it's not letting me look at that link...
07:58 SpaceLibrarian_home ah there we go
07:59 SpaceLibrarian_home That looks great!
07:59 cait ah :)
07:59 * cait should work on her presentation
08:00 rangi :)
08:01 cait ah, got my question?
08:04 rangi about the nozebra one?
08:04 rangi yep resolved wont fix
08:05 cait ok, all of them?
08:06 rangi yup
08:06 cait yay :)
08:06 cait perhaps we should deprecate more features ;)
08:09 rangi hehe
08:15 cait I asked robin about a bug for accounts
08:15 cait there are lots of things I could link to one :)
08:16 rangi SpaceLibrarian_home: i just sent a whereis for us
08:16 rangi cait: yeah he is doing a big rewrite
08:16 rangi hopefully fix all a lot
08:16 cait I hope so too
08:17 rangi all a lot
08:17 rangi what does that even mean????
08:17 cait and I told him I want those ugly english strings from the database gone
08:17 cait I understood you :)
08:17 rangi cait: have you seen
08:18 cait hm no
08:19 rangi looks interesting, i might have to try it out sometime
08:20 rangi cait: yep the plan is to remove the syspref and all the code that uses it for 3.6
08:20 rangi well hopefully C4/Search will disappear to be replaced by Koha/Search an nozebra will disappear with tit
08:20 rangi it
08:21 cait replaced by?
08:22 rangi i mean the whole search module will be rewritten for 3.6
08:22 rangi to support zebra and solr
08:23 cait hm
08:23 SpaceLibrarian_home rangi:  I saw.
08:24 SpaceLibrarian_home XTF looks interesting...
08:27 magnuse that sounds like good plans for 3.6!
08:27 cait hi magnuse :)
08:28 magnuse hiya cait & #koha
08:33 SpaceLibrarian_home hey magnuse
08:34 magnuse hiya SpaceLibrarian_home
08:34 magnuse and hi rangi
08:35 rangi heya magnuse
08:35 wahanui rumour has it magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza
08:35 magnuse ?!?
08:35 cait lol
08:36 cait should probably be me, not magnuse
08:36 magnuse hehe
08:37 magnuse cait++
08:37 magnuse for doing bug archeology!
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08:41 cait hehe
08:41 cait bug_archeology++
08:41 cait love that term
08:55 cait hmpf
08:55 cait searchign for the bug about the error pages in staff when record not exists
08:57 cait I know it's there but can't find it
08:59 rangi ahh that was a recent one
08:59 rangi tcohen or conan did it, made the error handlng a lot better
08:59 rangi lemme find it
09:00 rangi bug 5791
09:00 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5791 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED, Robust handling of deleted biblios/authorities
09:00 cait thx :)
09:01 cait there is one open for opa
09:01 cait c
09:01 cait bug 2318
09:01 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2318 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Attempting to view details of a biblio that does not exists results in a 404 error
09:02 rangi ahh i think if we mark 5791 resolved fixed, that one can be done too
09:02 cait hm I am not sure, I thought 5791 was only or opac
09:02 rangi hmm lemme check the commit
09:03 cait and tomas had added a comment on the old one, saying that he had done smth similar for staff and what to do aobu tit
09:03 rangi nope staff too
09:03 cait and opac?
09:03 wahanui i guess opac is for patrons
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09:04 rangi just staff
09:04 rangi[…]d882bd4c2bd179a66
09:04 cait ok
09:04 cait :)
09:04 cait would be nice for opac too probably, but I see there is some discussion about that
09:04 Cybermon hi all
09:05 Cybermon hi all
09:06 magnuse hi Cybermon
09:07 Cybermon hi magnuse.
09:07 magnuse cait: i'm trying to sign off on your patch for bug 6228, but the currencies don't show up after applying the patch. is there something else that needs to be done?
09:07 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6228 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Show active currency in system preferences
09:07 Cybermon how are you?
09:07 cait hm
09:07 Cybermon i almost did my zebra indexing by http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.[…]ra-td3048428.html
09:07 cait yes
09:07 magnuse i'm fine thank you Cybermon  - and you?
09:07 cait update your po file
09:07 cait and retranslate
09:07 Cybermon fine.
09:07 cait that's why I didn't wanted it to go into 3.4
09:08 magnuse cait: for english too?
09:08 cait do you have an active currency set?
09:08 Cybermon not yet
09:08 cait Cybermon: talking to magnuse :)
09:08 magnuse cait: lemme check
09:09 Cybermon sorry -:)
09:11 magnuse cait: huh? i can't find any currency syspref?!? only CurrencyFormat
09:11 magnuse ah found it
09:12 magnuse Home � Administration � Currencies & Exchange Rates � Currencies - of course
09:12 magnuse and i didn't have one set to active
09:12 cait :)
09:13 magnuse then it works
09:13 cait cool
09:13 * magnuse would have thought the default was to have USD active...
09:14 cait no it's not set at all by default
09:14 cait in acq it shows a warning
09:15 magnuse rangi: there is a filename problem in the .po files: nb-NO-i-staff-t-prog-v-3002000.po is called nb-NO-i-staff-prog-v-3002000.po, which gives an error when installing nb-NO
09:15 magnuse yeah, i saw the warning when i went to the currencies page
09:15 rangi ahh, can you do a git mv on it
09:15 magnuse rangi: ok, will do
09:16 magnuse and send a patch?
09:16 magnuse ...i presume?
09:16 rangi might need to be a pull request
09:16 magnuse ok
09:17 magnuse should i create a bug for it too?
09:17 rangi try a patch (sometimes they end up complaining a line is too long)
09:17 rangi hmm i think for this nope, that isnt necessary
09:18 magnuse ok
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09:20 magnuse kia ora paul_p
09:20 cait hi paul_p - another script?
09:21 paul_p hi magnuse & cait. Nope, not another script, just checking script launched yesterday ;-)
09:21 paul_p seems things went well...
09:22 magnuse goody!
09:29 * cait needs a bug wrangling  break for breakfast
09:31 magnuse cait: sounds more like brunch at this hour?!? ;-)
09:31 cait hmpf ;)
09:33 magnuse rangi: patch sent: http://lists.koha-community.or[…]April/014923.html
09:33 rangi cool thanks
09:34 cait if you get a minute sometime rangi - can you look at guided reports?
09:34 rangi do people still use those?
09:34 cait I think I remember you wrote that and it's not working now
09:34 cait no idea, but perhaps we should remove the build new then
09:34 cait because at the moment it's broken
09:35 cait I stared at the code for a long time yesterday and I have no idea why it doesn't work
09:35 rangi right, i probably wont get a chance this week
09:35 rangi but will when i get a chance
09:35 cait ok, perhaps we can deprecate it
09:35 cait :)
09:37 rangi yeah, its never really worked, and was a silly idea to begin with
09:37 rangi imho
09:39 cait if nobody cares about fixing it...
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10:00 cait rangi++ for general awesomeness and because I feel like it
10:00 magnuse rangi++ # ditto :-)
10:04 rangi heh
10:04 rangi @karma
10:04 huginn rangi: Highest karma: "oleonard" (253), "gmcharlt" (249), and "chris" (236).  Lowest karma: "<!" (-101), "failed" (-52), and "-" (-35).  You (rangi) are ranked 13 out of 1385.
10:04 rangi maybe ill catch up to myself
10:04 rangi :)
10:04 rangi ok, my shirt is ironed, time for sleep
10:05 rangi see ya in the morning SpaceLibrarian_home
10:06 magnuse sleep tight rangi
10:08 cait sleep tight
10:09 SpaceLibrarian_home night!
10:09 cait huginn botsnack cookie
10:09 huginn cait: I've exhausted my database of quotes
10:10 cait !huginn botsnack cookie
10:10 cait hm.
10:10 cait ok, so no cookies for helping me bug wrangling
10:15 magnuse not sure huginn is the one that likes cookies?
10:16 magnuse cait: re bug 2426: i still have "management Set library management parameters" in my permissions on 3.4
10:16 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2426 major, P3, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, Management Permissions Deprecated
10:17 cait oh?
10:18 cait sorry, prehaps I got confused there
10:18 cait can you update the bug?
10:18 cait and glad to hear someone is reading my comments - that's what I am trying to accomplish. get some fresh comments and thoughts on the old bugs :)
10:19 magnuse good idea
10:28 Cybermon how can i enable search by ISBN ?
10:29 cait have you tried searching without the hyphens?
10:29 Cybermon what does mean hyphens ?
10:30 cait without the -
10:30 cait magnuse: you sure you have that permissions?
10:30 Cybermon let me try
10:31 cait magnuse: ah... i only see the German descriptions
10:31 cait magnuse: I think managemet got reworded at some point
10:33 magnuse cait: u huh? my upgraded install has it...
10:33 magnuse where are the names etc stored? template? script? database?
10:33 cait sql
10:34 cait I translated it so to something like "access to administration"
10:34 cait I agree the permission is still ther e- but I am not sure it stil does the same thing
10:35 magnuse hm
10:35 magnuse grep -r "Set library management parameters" *
10:35 magnuse installer/data/mysql/en/mandatory/userflags.sql:INSERT INTO `userflags` VALUES(12,'management','Set library management parameters',0);
10:35 magnuse installer/data/mysql/pl-PL/mandatory/userflags.sql:INSERT INTO `userflags` VALUES(12,'management','Set library management parameters',0);
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10:38 magnuse ah, it's in all of them, just called different things...
10:38 magnuse guten tag adnc
10:38 adnc hallo
10:38 adnc magnuse,
10:41 cait so bad translatio on my part ;)
10:41 adnc the pdf created by koha for signature, etiquettes, patron cards etc. are all damaged. the cvs and xml do contain the informations. what could be wrong?
10:41 adnc hallo cait
10:42 cait do you have umlauts in your callnumbers?
10:42 adnc callnumbers? signaturen meinst du?
10:42 cait and checking about > perl modules - is there something missing?
10:42 cait ja :)
10:42 adnc ich benutze gar keine
10:42 adnc ;)
10:43 adnc Perl @INC shows a list, but nothing about modules
10:44 adnc ohh there is a tab ;) sorry
10:44 adnc i see  long list of perl modules, how can i find out if those are installed? there are some written in fett/big
10:45 cait there should be yellow /red fields if something is missing
10:45 cait when you open the damaged pdf in a text editor, what do you see?
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10:45 adnc Storable is yellow and Graphics::Magick
10:45 cait ah
10:46 cait I think Graphics::Magick is probably used for labels
10:46 cait but yellow indicates probably your version is only a bit lower
10:46 adnc i A libgraphics-magick-perl
10:46 adnc is installed
10:47 adnc [error] [client] [Mon Apr 25 12:08:53 2011] Wide character in print at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-b​in/labels/ line 63.,
10:47 adnc i've this in my logs
10:47 cait yes
10:48 cait bug 2246
10:48 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2246 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, cnighswonger, NEW, Label printing doesn't work with Unicode characters
10:48 cait some strange character somewhere
10:49 adnc is this still with 3.4
10:50 cait he is working on it, it seems to be a more general problem with the way pdf are produced. I have not worked enough with that module to tell if umlauts are the problem.
10:50 cait perhaps you can try with a small set of records
10:50 cait or one without and one with
10:50 adnc well I tried with even only one
10:52 cait hm
10:52 cait umlauts?
10:52 wahanui umlauts are a bigger problem?
10:52 adnc cait, ok
10:52 cait wahanui: forget umlauts
10:52 wahanui cait: I forgot umlauts
10:52 adnc indeet i used one without umlautes, an english book. it does the etiquette
10:53 adnc the rest did have german/turkish characters
10:53 cait I think what you could do is update the bug with the examples
10:54 cait I think he was actively working on a solution lately
10:59 cait hm bug 2465
10:59 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2465 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, availability of a reserved book
10:59 cait I thought we had on shelf
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11:28 magnuse hiya nengard and jwagner
11:28 jwagner Hi magnuse
11:28 nengard good morning
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11:29 JesseM Good Morning
11:31 cait hi JesseM :)
11:31 cait oh and hi nengard, hi jwagner
11:31 jwagner Hi cait
11:32 cait should start reading on toü
11:32 cait top
11:34 JesseM Hi cait
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11:53 cait sorry for flodding the bugs list
11:53 cait flooding even
11:54 cait trying to clean up a little
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12:00 druthb o/
12:01 cait hi druthb :)
12:01 magnuse \o
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12:09 magnuse hiya NateC
12:10 NateC HI magnuse
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12:12 cait hi NateC
12:12 cait hi oleonard
12:12 cait no holiday in US today?
12:12 NateC Hi cait!
12:12 NateC no that was yesterday
12:12 magnuse hiya oleonard
12:13 oleonard Hi
12:16 oleonard cait++ # for Bugzilla work
12:17 druthb cait++
12:18 cait hehe
12:18 cait and I thought you would think up ways to punish me by now
12:18 cait for sending all the mails to the list
12:18 magnuse nah, we just delete them without reading...
12:18 magnuse joking! ;-)
12:19 cait I hope you do!
12:19 cait but I used huginn to compile a long list with things I want to pester people about
12:20 magnuse hehe cool!
12:20 cait oleonard: I hope you can comment/close some of the real old onces concerning template things
12:21 oleonard I'll see what I can do
12:21 cait cool
12:25 nengard git experts, I need some help creating another branch in the Koha Documentation repo for the 3.6 manual.
12:26 cait hm not sure how you have structured your branches there
12:27 cait what is the master?
12:27 wahanui the master is now running from template::toolkit
12:27 cait wahanui forget master
12:27 wahanui cait: I forgot master
12:27 mtj $ git  branch 'foofoo'
12:27 mtj $ git checkout 'foofoo'
12:28 cait or git checkout -b newbrnachname
12:28 cait ?
12:28 mtj creates a branch, then changes to that branch
12:28 cait I think the question is from where you want to start that branch off?
12:28 cait and hi mason :)
12:29 nengard cait 3.4 is master
12:29 oleonard cait 3.4?
12:29 wahanui somebody said cait 3.4 was master
12:29 mtj cait:  yep, yours is a better example, than mine
12:29 nengard mtj and that will do that on the public repo - not just locally?
12:30 cait hm, you will have to push the branch I think
12:30 mtj pass
12:30 cait soemthing like git push localname remotename:namethere
12:30 mtj nengard: i dont know what repo you are working on
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12:31 nengard[…]ocs.git;a=summary
12:31 mtj ah
12:32 nengard I have the ability to push to there of course
12:32 mtj well, yes - if you create a branch on *that* repo, its public….
12:32 mtj my advice, take a copy, fiddle on your copy, push it to there, when you are happy
12:33 mtj ok, so its not public there, until you push it there
12:34 mtj nengard:  it sounds like you are working from a clone of that repo
12:35 nengard yes
12:35 nengard i am
12:35 mtj and 'hi' too :)
12:35 nengard hi :) !!
12:35 mtj yeah, all good
12:35 nengard So, i create a branch locally and then push
12:35 nengard and it will be public
12:36 mtj yes, i reckon so
12:36 mtj so, on your local repo...
12:36 mtj - change to master
12:37 mtj - commit all your stuff
12:37 mtj - make a 'manual3.4.x' branch
12:37 mtj … (based from 'master')
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12:39 nengard okey dokey
12:39 nengard off to try :)
12:40 tcohen yaaaaum
12:42 nengard k ... that didn't work
12:42 pastebot "nengard" at pasted "new manual branch" (8 lines) at
12:43 nengard oh wait ... do i have to push with a specific command to push that branch?
12:43 jcamins nengard: git push manual3.4.x master/manual3.4.x
12:43 cait yes
12:43 mtj git push manual3.4.x  git://
12:43 mtj sure you do
12:44 nengard um ... you both said something diff
12:44 conan hi all
12:44 cait I think probably both work
12:44 jcamins nengard: in that case, mtj is probably right.
12:44 cait hm
12:44 mtj well, master *prolly* equals  git://
12:44 mtj $ git remote -v
12:45 mtj will tell you what 'master' really is
12:45 nengard origin (fetch)
12:45 nengard origin (push)
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12:45 Oak \o
12:46 magnuse have a look at the examples here?[…]ocs/git-push.html
12:46 mtj cool, jcamins example should be good then
12:46 nengard new-host-3:clonedoc nengard$ git push manual3.4.x master/manual3.4.x
12:46 nengard fatal: 'manual3.4.x' does not appear to be a git repository
12:46 nengard fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly
12:46 nengard oh wait
12:46 nengard do i need to be in the master branch?
12:46 nengard probably
12:47 nengard nope
12:47 jcamins nengard: oh, try it without the "/manual3.4.x"
12:47 mtj oops…
12:47 mtj $ git push manual3.4.x origin
12:48 mtj i think that example is better
12:48 nengard Switched to branch 'manual3.4.x'
12:48 nengard new-host-3:clonedoc nengard$ git push manual3.4.x origin
12:48 nengard fatal: 'manual3.4.x' does not appear to be a git repository
12:48 nengard fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly
12:49 mtj $ git checkout manual3.4.x
12:49 mtj $ git push origin
12:50 magnuse yeah, the thing after push should be the name of the repo, not a branch
12:50 mtj or
12:50 mtj $ git push origin manual3.4.x
12:51 mtj .
12:51 mtj git push origin master
12:52 mtj Find a ref that matches master in the source repository (most likely, it would find refs/heads/master), and update the same ref (e.g. refs/heads/master) in origin repository with it. If master did not exist remotely, it would be created.
12:52 mtj im a bit rusty on pushes, i mainly do pulls :/
12:52 nengard woo hoo!!
12:52 nengard[…]ocs.git;a=summary
12:52 nengard thank you :)
12:53 mtj zzzZaNgGgG!!
12:53 nengard hehe ... hope that's excitement :) hehe
12:55 mtj nengard: amazing work on the doco repo
12:55 nengard thanks :)
12:56 mtj *very* impressive stuff!
13:07 gmcharlt good morning
13:08 gmcharlt jcamins: to answer your question - find/create an index on the 035$a, using that in the matching rule definition along with specifying 035$a as the field and subfield
13:09 jcamins gmcharlt: yeah, eventaully I figured it out.
13:09 jcamins Thank you.
13:09 jcamins It turns out that the problem was the offset.
13:10 jcamins Incidentally, Zebra's apparently random behavior wrt quoting is absurd.
13:10 gmcharlt zebra or C4::Search?
13:11 jcamins Ah.
13:11 jcamins Probably C4::Search.
13:11 jcamins With some searches, you have to use index:"string" and with others index:{string}
13:13 mtj im curious… the zebra config files determine which way you need to call them?
13:13 jcamins mtj: really? How so?
13:14 mtj im not sure, that why i ask you :)
13:14 jcamins Oh, right.
13:15 mtj my hunch is different index types are called with a different syntax?
13:16 jcamins Could be. Who knows. There's something due any day...
13:16 jcamins That would make sense.
13:16 jcamins Kind of.
13:17 mtj gosh, that sounds like a pain...
13:17 jcamins mtj: thanks a lot for asking a question that got West Side Story stuck in my head. :P
13:19 * cait is happy do not know West side story
13:20 cait gmcharlt: bug 2522 - can this be closed?
13:20 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2522 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, implement hold request targeting
13:20 jcamins It's a good show.
13:20 jcamins cait: when did you add UseControlNumber?
13:20 cait late in 3.4 dev
13:20 cait why?
13:21 gmcharlt cait: here's the archive of the wiki page -[…]st_targeting.html
13:22 gmcharlt and the proposed feature was never implemented
13:22 jcamins cait: my test box is currently on, and I'm not seeing it.
13:23 cait hm later then :)
13:24 cait gmcharlt: what do you suggest for the bug?
13:24 cait gmcharlt: we have that table mentioned there
13:25 cait and the cronjob
13:30 gmcharlt cait: apologies, I did not look at this closely enough
13:30 gmcharlt actually, 2522 can be marked as resolved complete
13:31 cait thx gmcharlt - ok to link to the backup?
13:32 oleonard Soliciting opinions on Bug 5986
13:32 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5986 normal, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, Inconsistent handling of patron deletion permission
13:33 oleonard Would it be appropriate to move the code quoted there into
13:33 gmcharlt cait: yes
13:33 magnuse is now known as magnus_away
13:35 gmcharlt oleonard: yes, or perhaps with a separate wrapper
13:35 oleonard A separate wrapper?
13:35 gmcharlt i.e., something like RunIfPermitted($session, { required permissions }, DelMember(...));
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13:37 oleonard gmcharlt: Sorry, I don't understand
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13:37 gmcharlt oleonard: DelMember() as a regular C4 routine doesn't take the user's session into account
13:38 gmcharlt a wrapper function like I propose would also take the user's session and the required permissions as parameters, and if the session has the right permissions, run the specified routiine
13:38 gmcharlt the idea being to use a wrapper instead of individually modifying every C4 routine that might benefit from a permissions check
13:40 cait another function that calls the standard DelMember function and checks for permission?
13:40 cait sorry, I wondered about wrappers for some time and trying to understand :)
13:41 gmcharlt cait: yes
13:41 cait cool, thx
13:43 tcohen hi, anyone can point me to the files where marc frameworks are loaded from database?
13:44 tcohen i'm willing to do some tests using the code for bug 6193
13:44 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6193 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED, Use memcached cache koha-conf.xml configuration variables
13:44 tcohen su memcached is used to store them too
13:44 tcohen s/su/so/
13:44 jcamins kohaclone/installer/data/mysql/e​n/marcflavour/marc21/optional/*
13:44 jcamins tcohen: I think memcached already stores frameworks.
13:44 jcamins Wait, you said from, not into. Never mind.
13:45 cait jcamins/tcohen: the default framework is under mandatory
13:46 tcohen yeap, what I mean is when at cataloguing, koha gets the framework definition from DB
13:52 cait someone an idea about 3771?
13:52 cait bug 3771
13:52 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3771 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, nahuel.angelinetti, ASSIGNED, Multiple holds on opac results
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14:08 chris_n cait++ //bug-wrangling
14:09 cait chris_n for commenting :)
14:11 tcohen jcamins: memoize_memcached( 'GetMarcStructure', memcached => $memcached, expire_time => 600 );
14:11 tcohen does the job, right?
14:11 cait chris_n++
14:12 jcamins tcohen: no idea.
14:13 cait and nengard++ too
14:13 nengard for?
14:14 nengard oh bug wrangling :) hehe
14:14 cait :)
14:14 cait and for the newsletter, documentation and a lot of other things :)
14:14 nengard does anyone have a brandy new install they can test bug 6211 on?
14:14 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6211 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED, SubscriptionHistory doesn't have default value set
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14:19 chris_n because I run an open source OS I get junk like this: "We have detected that your operating system does not meet the optimal webcast specifications for listening to and/or viewing webcasts."
14:19 wizzyrea bleh
14:20 oleonard chris_n: Also, "Go back to Russia you commie"
14:20 chris_n the word "optimal" is apparently owned by Redmond
14:20 cait nengard: about 6262 - I will add a see also to 2084, ok?
14:21 chris_n based on the suggested list of supported OS's that is
14:21 nengard cait that looks okay
14:22 cait at the moment I have all those old bugs flowing around in my head
14:22 cait perhaps west side story would be better
14:23 jcamins I want to be in America, okay by me in America...
14:23 jcamins Gee, kindly judge your honor, you gotta understand...
14:24 cait are you singing jcamins? :)
14:24 jcamins cait: not so's you'd be able to tell. ;)
14:24 cait how did the cookies turn out?
14:24 nengard oleonard can bug 5547 be closed?
14:24 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5547 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED, A "hidelostitems" option for the staff client
14:25 jcamins cait: delicious!
14:25 oleonard nengard: As long as that insert records aspect is confirmed fixed, yes
14:28 cait :)
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14:30 gmcharlt @later tell rangi time for a 3.4.x branch, or are you waiting until 3.4.1 to branch?
14:30 huginn gmcharlt: The operation succeeded.
14:32 chris_n heya gmcharlt
14:32 wahanui i heard gmcharlt was an expert in all things library technology.
14:33 chris_n agreed wahanui
14:34 gmcharlt hi chris_n
14:36 cait bug 3879 - can I close that one?
14:36 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3879 enhancement, P2, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Showing Multiple entries in Opac and staff client
14:36 cait sounds like ap roblem with indexing to me
14:36 cait or perhaps wontfix as it's 3.0?
14:38 oleonard Bug 3771 is also rel_3_0
14:38 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3771 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, nahuel.angelinetti, ASSIGNED, Multiple holds on opac results
14:38 cait ok
14:38 cait what shoudl we do?
14:40 cait reassign to hdl?
14:40 oleonard I can't remember hearing what the guidelines are about rel_3_0 bugs
14:42 cait I tend to a wontfix for the indexing bug, with a comment that it sounds like problems with indexing and there is no known bug like this
14:42 cait or invalid perhaps
14:42 cait and the multiple holds thing - really not sure aboutthat
14:42 wizzyrea well it's only a problem in 3.0.x?
14:43 cait perhaps a quick check in the git repo to make sure it's not there any longer?
14:43 wizzyrea that would be enough for me
14:43 cait wizzyrea: what is enough for which bug?:)
14:43 wizzyrea the multiple holds one
14:43 wizzyrea checking the repo
14:43 wizzyrea is enough
14:44 cait search faq?
14:45 wizzyrea double ups are listed in the faq as indexing issues
14:45 wizzyrea faq?
14:45 wahanui hmmm... faq is found at
14:46 wizzyrea[…]/faq/searching/#5
14:46 wizzyrea double ups are found at[…]/faq/searching/#5
14:46 cait yep, put a link in there
14:46 wizzyrea double ups?
14:46 wahanui double ups are listed in the faq as indexing issues
14:46 wizzyrea forget double ups
14:46 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot double ups
14:46 wizzyrea double ups are found at[…]/faq/searching/#5
14:46 cait :)
14:48 cait can someone confirm 4308?
14:48 cait looks ok to me in 3.4
14:48 cait no double ups
14:50 wizzyrea bug 4308
14:50 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4308 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Inventory - shelving locations has multiple entries
14:50 wizzyrea um
14:51 wizzyrea looking at the reporter for that
14:51 wizzyrea and the date
14:52 nengard wizzyrea are you saying it's not a Koha bug?
14:52 nengard checking it on my system right now, but i think you're right
14:52 cait I will mark worksforme
14:52 nengard cait .. i did
14:52 wizzyrea yes, I think that is what I'm saying >.>
14:52 cait thx :)
14:53 cait it feels good to at least close some of this bugs
14:53 wizzyrea at the very least, it sounds like the sort of thing that would be a local data problem
14:53 cait although i would prefer to get the number down some more
14:53 cait yes, I think if it was a general thing we would have heard about it
14:54 cait wizzyrea: the next one is from you: 4373
14:54 wizzyrea k sec
14:54 wizzyrea bug 4373
14:54 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4373 major, P2, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Placing and Processing Items Simultaneously causes multiple issues
14:54 cait perhaps updating version?
14:55 cait or link to holds rewrite?
14:55 wizzyrea yea, this still happens afaict
14:55 wizzyrea a lot less than it used to
14:55 wizzyrea but it does still happen
14:56 wizzyrea actually unspecified version is probably better than a specific one
14:56 wizzyrea and that was tested on Koah
14:56 wizzyrea Koha*
14:56 wizzyrea not on our production system.
14:56 wizzyrea (at the time)
14:57 cait oh, bug 4958 - that sounds like one that can be closed :)
14:57 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4958 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, XSLT views in staff client and OPAC don't show multiple URL subfields
14:58 cait or is he talking about repeating u several times in one tag?
15:05 cait ok, going to take a break
15:05 cait bbl
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15:12 nengard wizzyrea, i moved the 3.4 manual to a different brancha nd master is the 3.6 manual if that effects your scripts
15:12 wizzyrea k ty, I'll check
15:13 wizzyrea[…]pt-adding-in.html srsly?
15:14 nengard what???
15:14 nengard do you know how many times i moved as a kid? I don't!!!
15:15 wizzyrea the comments are somewhat encouraging, i.e. if you have a birth cert they won't make you do that
15:16 wizzyrea but it's still pretty ludicrous
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15:22 nengard what if i have a passport already?
15:22 nengard cause i don't know if i have my birth certificate ... cause as i said, we moved like a 100 times when i was growing up (not that many - but still)
15:30 wizzyrea nengard: you can usually get a copy from the state where you were born
15:30 wizzyrea so if you know that
15:31 nengard my mom tried to do that ... get her birth cert from the state, but it was pre computers and it took months to get it ... my point being, it's all a bit crazy and who are they protecting really by asking all of this?
15:32 nengard i mean her birth was pre computers and they hadn't digitized her stuff (if they ever were going to)
15:33 wizzyrea I have a suspicion about "who benefits" but it's probably best left in my mind
15:33 wizzyrea at least for now, that's still a sacred space :P
15:33 nengard ha!
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15:34 druthb They'll be boggled enough at the gender-mismatch on my passport application.
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15:49 library_systems_guy is there anything I should have turned on to view the shelf in the opac other than the OPACShelfBrowser setting?
15:50 nengard there are three preferences linked to that one that you need to set
15:50 nengard they ask where to look for info on how to sort ... branch, shelving location and collection code
15:51 library_systems_guy ok so I currently have use home branch and use location
15:52 library_systems_guy and i don't get a shelf, so could it be the records we are importing?
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15:53 nengard library_systems_guy do your bib records have items attached?
15:54 library_systems_guy good question, let me ask margo
15:54 library_systems_guy she says yes
15:55 library_systems_guy and they have call numbers attached
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15:56 nengard margo! :)
15:56 margo hey!
15:56 library_systems_guy smh nice...nickname margo
15:56 margo lol
15:56 margo anyone can call me that
15:56 nengard library_systems_guy I sent you a private message ... did you get it?
15:56 library_systems_guy si
16:03 nengard how's it going margo?
16:03 nengard i'm searching your catalog now and you get the info there!
16:04 margo sorry, was looking at something else
16:04 margo you see the browse shelf?
16:06 nengard no i don't
16:06 nengard i see that your preferences are right
16:06 nengard but that it's not showing
16:06 nengard i need to test on my install
16:06 nengard what version are you guys on?
16:06 library_systems_guy 3.4
16:07 jcamins Did you run the script to remove items from the biblioitems?
16:07 nengard yup
16:07 nengard it's a bug
16:07 nengard it's not working on mine either
16:07 nengard off to report the bug
16:07 library_systems_guy woo bugs
16:08 nengard Bug 6263 reported
16:08 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6263 major, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, shelf browser doesn't work in 3.4
16:08 nengard you can add yourself to the CC so you see when it has been fixed
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16:13 margo thanks
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16:21 cait nengard: I think I found the problem
16:21 cait can you test it?
16:22 cait I have only one item in my database - that makes it a bit hard, but I have the link showing up and he shelf browser opeining
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16:24 nengard cait, what do i do?
16:24 nengard to test
16:24 cait I will send a patch
16:25 cait found a problem with the navigation, trying to fix that now
16:25 cait it's another tt problem
16:26 nengard okey dokey :)
16:26 nengard thanks
16:27 cait np :)
16:30 jcamins boxbe--
16:30 cait nengard: attaching the patch to the bug now
16:31 nengard okey dokey
16:31 cait done
16:33 nengard signed off and submitted
16:33 nengard works lovely!
16:33 library_systems_guy w00t
16:33 nengard margo and library_systems_guy it is fixed :)
16:33 cait you are fast!!
16:33 cait :)
16:33 nengard now share that process with your staff so they can see how open source works
16:33 library_systems_guy no lie
16:34 library_systems_guy margo...
16:34 nengard cait, i have those commands in muscle memory now :) i can type them so fast and then i just have to test :)
16:34 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6263] shelf browser doesn't work in 3.4 <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6263>
16:34 nengard and it's an easy one to test
16:34 library_systems_guy since im not in the best standing with the library staff
16:35 library_systems_guy so to pull it down i can just do a fetch?
16:35 cait not yet, rangi has to push it into 3.4 first
16:35 jcamins library_systems_guy: you'll have to wait until rangi pushes it.
16:35 library_systems_guy ok :)
16:35 jcamins Or you can download the patch and apply it yourself, if you need it immediately.
16:35 wizzyrea technically if you were ... what he said
16:35 jcamins I suggest waiting, though.
16:35 wizzyrea also that
16:36 wizzyrea lol you're too fast jcamins
16:36 library_systems_guy yeah we're not in prod yet
16:36 library_systems_guy so no big push
16:36 cait should not be long until it's available
16:36 library_systems_guy (no pun intended)
16:36 cait those things go in pretty fast and it's already signed-off and easy to test
16:36 wizzyrea he gets up in what, 3 hours :)
16:36 cait hehe
16:36 library_systems_guy haha
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16:47 nengard any tutorial video requests?
16:48 nengard they can be tini tiny short videos
16:48 cait hmm
16:48 nengard i took a few weeks off so i need to get more in the bank :)
16:48 nengard http://bywatersolutions.blip.t[…]w=archive&nsfw=dc
16:49 cait opac privacy page?
16:49 cait if you don't have that already :)
16:49 nengard i do :)
16:49 nengard
16:49 cait ok
16:50 cait bulkordering of staged marc file in ac
16:50 cait q
16:50 cait ? :)
16:50 cait owen's new comments feature?
16:51 nengard oo thanks
16:51 nengard those two work :)
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17:03 * magnuse notes 44 minutes from first report of shelf browser problem to signed-off patch!
17:03 magnuse koha_community++
17:03 magnuse @karma koha_community
17:03 huginn magnuse: Karma for "koha_community" has been increased 2 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 2.
17:03 gmcharlt that's it?
17:03 cait koha_community++
17:03 gmcharlt koha_community++
17:03 cait @karma community
17:03 huginn cait: Karma for "community" has been increased 4 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 3.
17:04 cait decreased??
17:04 cait we need a karma blame to track that person down
17:05 bg @wunder 93109
17:05 cait hi bg :)
17:05 bg hiya
17:05 bg @wunder 93109
17:05 huginn bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 17.2�C (10:07 AM PDT on April 25, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018.2 hPa (Falling). Wind Advisory in effect until 9 PM PDT this evening...
17:06 cait @wunder Konstanz
17:06 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 20.0�C (7:00 PM CEST on April 25, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 17%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013 hPa (Falling).
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17:07 cait hi adnc
17:07 adnc hello
17:08 cait rangi is still sleeping ;)
17:08 adnc ;)
17:09 adnc cait, ich denke es gibt noch kein paket-koha 3.4 ;)
17:09 cait nope
17:09 adnc I just see that bug 2246 is from 2008
17:09 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2246 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, cnighswonger, NEW, Label printing doesn't work with Unicode characters
17:10 nengard_lunch @wunder 19030
17:10 huginn nengard_lunch: The current temperature in JAT Observatory, Fairless Hills, Pennsylvania is 26.9�C (1:03 PM EDT on April 25, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011.4 hPa (Falling).
17:10 nengard_lunch wow! hotter here than in CA
17:10 cait oh, engard wins
17:10 nengard_lunch yeah - i'm sweating here
17:10 nengard_lunch kind of annoyed
17:10 nengard_lunch i wanted a spring but we didn't get one
17:10 nengard_lunch it went from FREEZING to SWEATING
17:10 nengard_lunch :(
17:10 cait same here
17:10 collum @wunder 41017
17:10 huginn collum: The current temperature in Erlanger, Kentucky is 22.2�C (1:12 PM EDT on April 25, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. Pressure: 29.79 in 1008.7 hPa (Steady). Flash Flood Watch in effect until 8 PM EDT this evening...
17:11 JesseM_Lunch is now known as JesseM
17:11 collum Rain rain go away
17:11 cait send it here
17:12 adnc @ wunder ?
17:12 huginn adnc: Error: No such location could be found.
17:12 collum I'm surprised you're not getting our run-off
17:13 cait zeigt das wetter an einem ort
17:13 cait @wunder braunschweig
17:13 huginn cait: The current temperature in Vechelde, Germany is 18.9�C (7:00 PM CEST on April 25, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 24%. Dew Point: -2.0�C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1017.5 hPa (Steady).
17:13 adnc ja, ich wollte gerne sehen wie die syntax ist
17:13 magnuse @wunder bodo, norway
17:13 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 6.0�C (6:50 PM CEST on April 25, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Windchill: 4.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
17:13 adnc und die koordinaten
17:13 adnc @wunder 11111
17:13 huginn adnc: Error: No such location could be found.
17:13 cait ich denke die zahlen waren eine amerikanische postleitzahl
17:13 adnc ahh
17:14 adnc @wunder istanbul
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17:14 huginn adnc: The current temperature in Istanbul, Turkey is 11.0�C (7:50 PM EEST on April 25, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
17:14 collum adnc: you can also use an airport code
17:14 adnc ahh
17:14 collum 25 years since I took German, I'm not even going to try.
17:14 adnc unbelievable, istanbul 11°c and brunschweig 18°c
17:14 cait hm
17:14 adnc @wunder hamburg
17:15 cait in my new database the Idem due message is showing up as unknown...
17:15 huginn adnc: Error: No such location could be found.
17:15 adnc @wunder kiel
17:15 huginn adnc: Error: No such location could be found.
17:15 nengard_lunch is now known as nengard
17:15 magnuse idea: a page on the wiki for keeping track of "preferred names" in koha: virtual shelves/lists, holds/reserves etc
17:15 magnuse @wunder BOO
17:15 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 6.0�C (6:50 PM CEST on April 25, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Windchill: 4.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
17:15 magnuse heh, cool
17:16 magnuse that will save me a lot of typing in the future ;-)
17:19 cait @wunder ZRH
17:19 huginn cait: The current temperature in Sunikon, Sunikon/Steinmaur, Switzerland is 19.3�C (7:18 PM CEST on April 25, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Pressure: 29.85 in 1010.7 hPa (Steady).
17:20 cait BOO? lol
17:21 magnuse hehe, lucky me, eh?
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17:24 cait boo is great
17:30 adnc @wunder HAJ
17:30 huginn adnc: The current temperature in Hannover, Wedemark, Germany is 19.7�C (6:58 PM CEST on April 25, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1019.9 hPa (Steady).
17:31 adnc @wunder help
17:31 huginn adnc: The current temperature in Poplar Bluff, Missouri is 17.0�C (12:22 PM CDT on April 25, 2011). Conditions: Heavy Thunderstorms and Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Falling). Flash Flood Watch in effect through Wednesday evening...
17:31 adnc ohh
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17:37 adnc cait, what are "Wandernde Sammlungen"?
17:37 cait where have you found those?
17:37 adnc http://intranet.bywatersolutio[…]
17:37 cait the english name is Rotating collections
17:37 adnc what does it mean? I was just looking through the demo libraries
17:38 cait interesting
17:38 cait it should not be there
17:38 cait what's the login for that database?
17:38 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5889] Allow message names to be translatable <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5889>
17:38 adnc bywater
17:38 adnc bywater
17:38 cait for once it'snot properly secured
17:38 cait because I can access the page without being logged in!
17:39 adnc ohh
17:39 cait hm and second, I don't have those in my freshly installed 3.4
17:40 cait it's a feature that didn't make it into 3.2 because there were some problems with it
17:40 cait and nobody worked on it for 3.4 - so it's still not there afaik
17:40 cait I wonder why it doesshow up on that demo
17:42 cait Wandernde Sammlungen ist keine gute Ãœbersetzung, ich habe dabei an sowas wie Wanderausstellungen gedacht. Die Idee ist, dass man Exemplare einer Sammlung zuordnen kann und diese kann man dann von Bibliothek zu Bibliothek schicken
17:42 cait Also die Sachen sind erst mal in Bibliothek A, dann packt man alles ein, was noch im Regal steht und sagt der Sammlung, sie gehört jetzt nach Bibliothek B
17:43 cait was dann noch zurückgegeben wird, wird automatisch nach B geschickt
17:46 adnc achsooo
17:46 adnc coole idee
17:46 adnc die guttenberg biebeln vielleicht ;)
17:46 adnc bibeln
17:46 adnc die ich in meinem keller habe
17:47 cait hehe
17:48 cait @later tell sekjal I ran into some weird things in bywater's test installation - I think you probably need to update your installed languages template files :)
17:48 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
17:48 adnc der schnellsignaturschilddruck funktioniert bei mir nicht
17:48 adnc könnte das an den umlauten liegen?
17:48 cait uff, let's see
17:48 sekjal cait: I'm here
17:49 cait ah hi :)
17:49 cait I wondered why rotating collections still showed up under tools - until I realized I was looking at German pages
17:49 cait and those are pretty broken, don't even let me change the language to english :(
17:49 cait adnc: let me tes
17:49 cait t
17:50 adnc it maybe switches the language by browser language settings
17:50 magnuse yeah, that sounds like a bug i commented on
17:50 cait adnc: you tried under tools ?
17:50 adnc yes
17:51 cait adnc: yes it does - but it shoudln't - think rangi ripped that out for 3.4
17:51 sekjal interesting... the Rotating Collections page doesn't seem to be behind
17:51 magnuse bug 2562
17:51 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2562 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, SYSPREFS: 'languages' and 'opaclanguages' sysprefs *dont* set default languages
17:51 nengard hmmmm .. and why is it still in there at all?
17:51 cait yes, i think that was one of the problems why it didn't make it into 3.2
17:51 cait sekjal: update templates ! :)
17:52 cait nengard: not all files were removed when gmcharlt pulled it out
17:52 sekjal cait:  will do
17:52 cait sekjal: thx :)
17:54 cait sekjal: the problem with old templates is that all kinds of weird things can happen if people try to work with them - it drove me nuts in the beginning because we forgot to update them a lot
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18:07 wizzyrea i had the same experience with trying to do custom templates
18:07 wizzyrea just awful
18:08 cait yes :)
18:09 sekjal I did custom templates back when I first started experimenting with Koha... disaster
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18:10 wizzyrea now if I can't do it with jquery, and it's a good enough idea, I just file a bug on it :P
18:10 wizzyrea otherwise, I don't worry about it
18:13 * tcohen running
18:14 magnuse it would be nice if that script had some output, like bulkmarcimport or rebuild_zebra, so you could see it's actually working...
18:17 jcamins is now known as jcamins_posting_parcels_at_the
18:18 wizzyrea *nod* agreed
18:19 cait posting parcels at the?
18:20 * jcamins_posting_parcels_at_the is posting parcels at the postal place
18:23 * jwagner wonders if jcamins can pick a pint of pickled peppers while he's at it?
18:29 gmcharlt jwagner: the poor postal plucker plum protests!
18:30 jwagner How 'bout them postal pluckers, ain't they neat? Pickin' out postals, cain't be beat!
18:31 * jwagner notes that that was a garbled quote, not my doing :-)
18:32 wizzyrea <3 I positively prize you plucky peeps.
18:34 cait I am really confused bynow
18:34 jwagner cait, nothing to worry about, we're just all going crazy....
18:35 * cait hides
18:39 gmcharlt cait: if you want to fire back instead of hide, you can always do puns or alliterations in German ;)
18:40 cait like fischer's fritz fischt frische fische?
18:40 magnuse fischer fisker friske fisker?
18:41 * jwagner suddenly forgets what little German I know
18:41 magnuse in norwegian we can say "er det det det er?" - it means "is that what it is?"
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18:43 jwagner magnuse, that's a priceless phrase.  We have to find some way to work that into the interface....
18:45 magnuse lol ;-)
18:45 magnuse maybe not in the english version?
18:47 wizzyrea magnuse: I need a recording of you saying that
18:47 nengard hmmm ... is there a way to remove items from a list in the OPAC?
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18:48 nengard it looks like the answer is no
18:48 cait items?
18:48 wahanui items are in 952
18:48 wizzyrea forget items
18:48 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot items
18:48 nengard cait, the titles you have listed in the list
18:48 cait hm, I thought that was possible
18:48 nengard not 'items' as in item records ... but items as in 'things in the list'
18:48 magnuse wizzyrea: i'll see what i can do ;-)
18:49 wizzyrea :D
18:50 nengard it's possible in the staff client,but i'm looking at a list in the opac and i see edit list and delete list
18:50 nengard but no way to remove items from the list
18:50 cait oh ouch
18:50 nengard bug report coming
18:50 cait i got a template error when clicking on my list
18:51 cait nengard: can you try that? click on a public list entry in the lists pull down on masthead?
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18:51 nengard cait no errors here when i do that in FF4
18:52 cait hm strange!
18:52 * jcamins was prevented from posting a parcel with a peck of pickled peppers at the postal place.
18:52 cait nengard: found it... doesn't happen with english templates
18:53 cait so probably a translation mistake somewhere that I have to track down now :(
18:53 nengard Bug 6264  reported
18:53 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6264 major, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, can't delete items in a list in the opac
18:53 cait hm
18:53 cait nengard: checking the checkboxex and use the button below the list?
18:53 nengard HA!!!
18:53 nengard at the bottom
18:54 nengard updating
18:54 cait hehe, i know that
18:54 cait looking to hard at things
18:54 nengard bug updated to an enhancement
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18:59 nengard okay doctor time
18:59 nengard ttyl
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19:06 wizzyrea hmm
19:06 wizzyrea should this even be possible?
19:06 wizzyrea
19:06 wizzyrea 2 items with identical issues
19:06 wizzyrea (so 4 issues total)
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19:07 cait not really
19:08 cait and they have the same timestamp!
19:08 wizzyrea identical timestamp, yea
19:08 wizzyrea i'm struggling to find a logical explanation for this
19:08 wizzyrea besides internet latency
19:09 wizzyrea idk what happens if you check it in and out again
19:09 wizzyrea does it delete one? both?
19:09 wizzyrea i'm guessing both
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19:09 cait hm wonder if both go into old_issues or only one
19:09 wizzyrea yea, curious
19:10 * wizzyrea tests one
19:11 wizzyrea removes both
19:11 wizzyrea puts both in old_issues
19:12 magnuse a way to get better (higher) circ stats then! :-)
19:14 cait hmpf
19:14 cait magnuse: do you have authorities in your demo opac?
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19:16 magnuse cait: nope, sorry
19:16 cait hm
19:16 cait I want to check how the links to the linked titles looked before biblibre's changes
19:16 cait because they seem to be broken
19:16 cait and the syntax looks a bit strnage:
19:17 cait http://localhost/cgi-bin/koha/[…]e=opac&q=1&idx=an
19:17 wizzyrea well that's very odd
19:17 magnuse cait: please feel free to test anything you like!
19:17 cait thx :)
19:17 cait had an idea though
19:18 cait the link should be there in intranet too
19:18 cait doesn't work either... hmp!
19:19 wizzyrea so, point of curiosity
19:19 wizzyrea why aren't issues all unique?
19:25 jcamins Wow. The United States Postal Service has a truly impressive website.
19:25 magnuse wizzyrea: you mean why isn't there a unique constraint on the db table?
19:25 wizzyrea yes
19:26 wizzyrea i mean, am I wrong in thinking that no two issues are ever the same?
19:26 * magnuse has no idea, just saw an opportunity for disambiguation...
19:27 cait no you are not
19:27 cait not wrong I mean
19:27 cait one borrowernumber/itemnumber combination should only show up in this table once at at ime
19:27 cait not twice
19:27 cait never
19:28 * magnuse would think the combination of itemnumber and timestamp should be unique
19:28 wizzyrea except I have a case where it's not
19:29 cait I think both is true
19:29 cait should... but isn't
19:29 cait does itshow up twice on the patrons's account?
19:29 wizzyrea yep
19:29 wizzyrea and when checked in
19:29 cait ugh
19:29 wizzyrea shows twice in the reading history
19:29 wizzyrea and both go into old issues
19:29 * cait wonders if fines will be charged twice too
19:29 wizzyrea no fines in this case (thank god)
19:31 cait production system? :(
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19:32 wizzyrea yea, but it's only one that we have found, so far
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19:56 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6265] Search for records linked to an authority not exact in OPAC <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6265>
19:57 rangi morning
19:59 rangi gmcharlt: yep time for a branch, I made one but can't push it
20:00 cait morning rangi :)
20:02 magnuse ata marie rangi
20:02 rangi @later tell gmcharlt yep time for a branch, I made one but can't push it
20:02 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded.
20:04 rangi @later tell chris_n I will be tracking everything I push that should go into 3.4 im going to make a wiki page so you can strike them as you apply
20:04 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded.
20:04 rangi at least until 3.4.1
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20:06 cait :)
20:06 rangi cait: for the authorities thing, jcamins recently dig a bug changing things to an
20:07 rangi it might be linked to that?
20:08 jcamins I think I recall hdl saying it didn't work months ago, and that BibLibre had a fix.
20:08 * jcamins meant to say that earlier, but forgot until rangi reminded him.
20:09 jcamins I guess BibLibre's fix didn't fix it.
20:09 cait hm it works for all other links i found
20:09 cait only that one brought the wrong results
20:09 jcamins Wait... MARC21 XSLT?
20:09 rangi just missing the phr bit eh?
20:09 cait marc21 but in authority search, not xslt
20:09 jcamins Ah.
20:09 jcamins Well, never mind then.
20:09 cait I
20:10 cait jcamins: want to sign-off? ;)
20:10 jcamins cait: sure, why not?
20:10 jcamins But, not tonight. I think I need a nap soon.
20:10 cait had mine earlier
20:11 cait rangi: lots of nice patches waiting to be pushed :)
20:11 rangi yep prolly will do some tomorrow
20:12 rangi doing training today
20:13 cait ok :)
20:13 cait jcamins: what was in the cookies?
20:13 cait I am feeling way too chirpy right now
20:13 jcamins cait: chocolate, mostly.
20:14 cait ok, that explains it
20:14 rangi someone want to reply to Caitlin explaining what a csv file is, and that any spreadsheet software will open it
20:15 rangi or any text editor
20:24 rangi bbl
20:26 wizzyrea and my god, if you use libreoffice
20:26 wizzyrea it's so easy to work with CSV's
20:26 wizzyrea I totally gave up on excel for that
20:26 wizzyrea well, among other reasons
20:27 * jcamins gave up on Excel because it is a lousy piece of software that corrupts your data more often than not.
20:27 wizzyrea that too.
20:32 cait so one of you is answering? :)
20:32 jcamins No.
20:36 wizzyrea I am
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20:37 cait wizzyrea++
20:38 wizzyrea done
20:41 cait :)
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20:53 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5445] Acq: No way back to order from z39.50 result page <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5445>
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21:24 gmcharlt rangi: still stuck on the branch?
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22:01 gmcharlt @later tell rangi ok, fixed permission issue, should now be able to push 3.4.x now
22:01 huginn gmcharlt: The operation succeeded.
22:01 gmcharlt and by now now, I mean now now now now, apparently
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23:29 Waylon hello all!
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