Time  Nick                             Message
23:29 Waylon                           hello all!
22:01 gmcharlt                         and by now now, I mean now now now now, apparently
22:01 huginn                           gmcharlt: The operation succeeded.
22:01 gmcharlt                         @later tell rangi ok, fixed permission issue, should now be able to push 3.4.x now
21:24 gmcharlt                         rangi: still stuck on the branch?
20:53 huginn                           New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5445] Acq: No way back to order from z39.50 result page <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5445>
20:41 cait                             :)
20:38 wizzyrea                         done
20:37 cait                             wizzyrea++
20:36 wizzyrea                         I am
20:32 jcamins                          No.
20:32 cait                             so one of you is answering? :)
20:27 wizzyrea                         that too.
20:27 * jcamins                        gave up on Excel because it is a lousy piece of software that corrupts your data more often than not.
20:26 wizzyrea                         well, among other reasons
20:26 wizzyrea                         I totally gave up on excel for that
20:26 wizzyrea                         it's so easy to work with CSV's
20:26 wizzyrea                         and my god, if you use libreoffice
20:24 rangi                            bbl
20:15 rangi                            or any text editor
20:14 rangi                            someone want to reply to Caitlin explaining what a csv file is, and that any spreadsheet software will open it
20:14 cait                             ok, that explains it
20:13 jcamins                          cait: chocolate, mostly.
20:13 cait                             I am feeling way too chirpy right now
20:13 cait                             jcamins: what was in the cookies?
20:13 cait                             ok :)
20:12 rangi                            doing training today
20:11 rangi                            yep prolly will do some tomorrow
20:11 cait                             rangi: lots of nice patches waiting to be pushed :)
20:10 cait                             had mine earlier
20:10 jcamins                          But, not tonight. I think I need a nap soon.
20:10 jcamins                          cait: sure, why not?
20:10 cait                             jcamins: want to sign-off? ;)
20:09 cait                             I
20:09 jcamins                          Well, never mind then.
20:09 jcamins                          Ah.
20:09 cait                             marc21 but in authority search, not xslt
20:09 rangi                            just missing the phr bit eh?
20:09 jcamins                          Wait... MARC21 XSLT?
20:09 cait                             only that one brought the wrong results
20:09 cait                             hm it works for all other links i found
20:09 jcamins                          I guess BibLibre's fix didn't fix it.
20:08 * jcamins                        meant to say that earlier, but forgot until rangi reminded him.
20:08 jcamins                          I think I recall hdl saying it didn't work months ago, and that BibLibre had a fix.
20:07 rangi                            it might be linked to that?
20:06 rangi                            cait: for the authorities thing, jcamins recently dig a bug changing things to an
20:06 cait                             :)
20:04 rangi                            at least until 3.4.1
20:04 huginn                           rangi: The operation succeeded.
20:04 rangi                            @later tell chris_n I will be tracking everything I push that should go into 3.4 im going to make a wiki page so you can strike them as you apply
20:02 huginn                           rangi: The operation succeeded.
20:02 rangi                            @later tell gmcharlt yep time for a branch, I made one but can't push it
20:02 magnuse                          ata marie rangi
20:00 cait                             morning rangi :)
19:59 rangi                            gmcharlt: yep time for a branch, I made one but can't push it
19:57 rangi                            morning
19:56 huginn                           New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6265] Search for records linked to an authority not exact in OPAC <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6265>
19:32 wizzyrea                         yea, but it's only one that we have found, so far
19:31 cait                             production system? :(
19:29 wizzyrea                         no fines in this case (thank god)
19:29 * cait                           wonders if fines will be charged twice too
19:29 wizzyrea                         and both go into old issues
19:29 wizzyrea                         shows twice in the reading history
19:29 cait                             ugh
19:29 wizzyrea                         and when checked in
19:29 wizzyrea                         yep
19:29 cait                             does itshow up twice on the patrons's account?
19:29 cait                             should... but isn't
19:29 cait                             I think both is true
19:28 wizzyrea                         except I have a case where it's not
19:28 * magnuse                        would think the combination of itemnumber and timestamp should be unique
19:27 cait                             never
19:27 cait                             not twice
19:27 cait                             one borrowernumber/itemnumber combination should only show up in this table once at at ime
19:27 cait                             not wrong I mean
19:27 cait                             no you are not
19:26 * magnuse                        has no idea, just saw an opportunity for disambiguation...
19:26 wizzyrea                         i mean, am I wrong in thinking that no two issues are ever the same?
19:25 wizzyrea                         yes
19:25 magnuse                          wizzyrea: you mean why isn't there a unique constraint on the db table?
19:25 jcamins                          Wow. The United States Postal Service has a truly impressive website.
19:19 wizzyrea                         why aren't issues all unique?
19:19 wizzyrea                         so, point of curiosity
19:18 cait                             doesn't work either... hmp!
19:18 cait                             the link should be there in intranet too
19:17 cait                             had an idea though
19:17 cait                             thx :)
19:17 magnuse                          cait: please feel free to test anything you like!
19:17 wizzyrea                         well that's very odd
19:17 cait                             http://localhost/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?type=opac&q=1&idx=an
19:16 cait                             and the syntax looks a bit strnage:
19:16 cait                             because they seem to be broken
19:16 cait                             I want to check how the links to the linked titles looked before biblibre's changes
19:16 cait                             hm
19:16 magnuse                          cait: nope, sorry
19:14 cait                             magnuse: do you have authorities in your demo opac?
19:14 cait                             hmpf
19:12 magnuse                          a way to get better (higher) circ stats then! :-)
19:11 wizzyrea                         puts both in old_issues
19:11 wizzyrea                         removes both
19:10 * wizzyrea                       tests one
19:09 wizzyrea                         yea, curious
19:09 cait                             hm wonder if both go into old_issues or only one
19:09 wizzyrea                         i'm guessing both
19:09 wizzyrea                         does it delete one? both?
19:09 wizzyrea                         idk what happens if you check it in and out again
19:08 wizzyrea                         besides internet latency
19:08 wizzyrea                         i'm struggling to find a logical explanation for this
19:08 wizzyrea                         identical timestamp, yea
19:08 cait                             and they have the same timestamp!
19:07 cait                             not really
19:06 wizzyrea                         (so 4 issues total)
19:06 wizzyrea                         2 items with identical issues
19:06 wizzyrea                         http://screencast.com/t/FW2ENDSlo0oK
19:06 wizzyrea                         should this even be possible?
19:06 wizzyrea                         hmm
18:59 nengard                          ttyl
18:59 nengard                          okay doctor time
18:54 nengard                          bug updated to an enhancement
18:54 cait                             looking to hard at things
18:54 cait                             hehe, i know that
18:54 nengard                          updating
18:53 nengard                          at the bottom
18:53 nengard                          HA!!!
18:53 cait                             nengard: checking the checkboxex and use the button below the list?
18:53 cait                             hm
18:53 huginn                           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6264 major, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, can't delete items in a list in the opac
18:53 nengard                          Bug 6264  reported
18:53 cait                             so probably a translation mistake somewhere that I have to track down now :(
18:52 cait                             nengard: found it... doesn't happen with english templates
18:52 * jcamins                        was prevented from posting a parcel with a peck of pickled peppers at the postal place.
18:52 cait                             hm strange!
18:51 nengard                          cait no errors here when i do that in FF4
18:51 cait                             nengard: can you try that? click on a public list entry in the lists pull down on masthead?
18:50 cait                             i got a template error when clicking on my list
18:50 nengard                          bug report coming
18:50 cait                             oh ouch
18:50 nengard                          but no way to remove items from the list
18:50 nengard                          it's possible in the staff client,but i'm looking at a list in the opac and i see edit list and delete list
18:49 wizzyrea                         :D
18:48 magnuse                          wizzyrea: i'll see what i can do ;-)
18:48 nengard                          not 'items' as in item records ... but items as in 'things in the list'
18:48 cait                             hm, I thought that was possible
18:48 nengard                          cait, the titles you have listed in the list
18:48 wahanui                          wizzyrea: I forgot items
18:48 wizzyrea                         forget items
18:48 wahanui                          items are in 952
18:48 cait                             items?
18:48 nengard                          it looks like the answer is no
18:47 nengard                          hmmm ... is there a way to remove items from a list in the OPAC?
18:47 wizzyrea                         magnuse: I need a recording of you saying that
18:45 magnuse                          maybe not in the english version?
18:45 magnuse                          lol ;-)
18:43 jwagner                          magnuse, that's a priceless phrase.  We have to find some way to work that into the interface....
18:41 magnuse                          in norwegian we can say "er det det det er?" - it means "is that what it is?"
18:41 * jwagner                        suddenly forgets what little German I know
18:40 magnuse                          fischer fisker friske fisker?
18:40 cait                             like fischer's fritz fischt frische fische?
18:39 gmcharlt                         cait: if you want to fire back instead of hide, you can always do puns or alliterations in German ;)
18:35 * cait                           hides
18:34 jwagner                          cait, nothing to worry about, we're just all going crazy....
18:34 cait                             I am really confused bynow
18:32 wizzyrea                         <3 I positively prize you plucky peeps.
18:31 * jwagner                        notes that that was a garbled quote, not my doing :-)
18:30 jwagner                          How 'bout them postal pluckers, ain't they neat? Pickin' out postals, cain't be beat!
18:29 gmcharlt                         jwagner: the poor postal plucker plum protests!
18:23 * jwagner                        wonders if jcamins can pick a pint of pickled peppers while he's at it?
18:20 * jcamins_posting_parcels_at_the is posting parcels at the postal place
18:19 cait                             posting parcels at the?
18:18 wizzyrea                         *nod* agreed
18:14 magnuse                          it would be nice if that script had some output, like bulkmarcimport or rebuild_zebra, so you could see it's actually working...
18:13 * tcohen                         running remove_items_from_biblioitems.pl
18:10 wizzyrea                         otherwise, I don't worry about it
18:10 wizzyrea                         now if I can't do it with jquery, and it's a good enough idea, I just file a bug on it :P
18:09 sekjal                           I did custom templates back when I first started experimenting with Koha... disaster
18:08 cait                             yes :)
18:07 wizzyrea                         just awful
18:07 wizzyrea                         i had the same experience with trying to do custom templates
17:54 cait                             sekjal: the problem with old templates is that all kinds of weird things can happen if people try to work with them - it drove me nuts in the beginning because we forgot to update them a lot
17:52 cait                             sekjal: thx :)
17:52 sekjal                           cait:  will do
17:52 cait                             nengard: not all files were removed when gmcharlt pulled it out
17:51 cait                             sekjal: update templates ! :)
17:51 cait                             yes, i think that was one of the problems why it didn't make it into 3.2
17:51 nengard                          hmmmm .. and why is it still in there at all?
17:51 huginn                           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2562 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, SYSPREFS: 'languages' and 'opaclanguages' sysprefs *dont* set default languages
17:51 magnuse                          bug 2562
17:51 sekjal                           interesting... the Rotating Collections page doesn't seem to be behind Auth.pm
17:51 cait                             adnc: yes it does - but it shoudln't - think rangi ripped that out for 3.4
17:50 adnc                             yes
17:50 cait                             adnc: you tried under tools ?
17:50 magnuse                          yeah, that sounds like a bug i commented on
17:50 adnc                             it maybe switches the language by browser language settings
17:49 cait                             t
17:49 cait                             adnc: let me tes
17:49 cait                             and those are pretty broken, don't even let me change the language to english :(
17:49 cait                             I wondered why rotating collections still showed up under tools - until I realized I was looking at German pages
17:49 cait                             ah hi :)
17:48 sekjal                           cait: I'm here
17:48 cait                             uff, let's see
17:48 adnc                             könnte das an den umlauten liegen?
17:48 adnc                             der schnellsignaturschilddruck funktioniert bei mir nicht
17:48 huginn                           cait: The operation succeeded.
17:48 cait                             @later tell sekjal I ran into some weird things in bywater's test installation - I think you probably need to update your installed languages template files :)
17:47 cait                             hehe
17:46 adnc                             die ich in meinem keller habe
17:46 adnc                             bibeln
17:46 adnc                             die guttenberg biebeln vielleicht ;)
17:46 adnc                             coole idee
17:46 adnc                             achsooo
17:43 cait                             was dann noch zurückgegeben wird, wird automatisch nach B geschickt
17:42 cait                             Also die Sachen sind erst mal in Bibliothek A, dann packt man alles ein, was noch im Regal steht und sagt der Sammlung, sie gehört jetzt nach Bibliothek B
17:42 cait                             Wandernde Sammlungen ist keine gute Ãœbersetzung, ich habe dabei an sowas wie Wanderausstellungen gedacht. Die Idee ist, dass man Exemplare einer Sammlung zuordnen kann und diese kann man dann von Bibliothek zu Bibliothek schicken
17:40 cait                             I wonder why it doesshow up on that demo
17:40 cait                             and nobody worked on it for 3.4 - so it's still not there afaik
17:40 cait                             it's a feature that didn't make it into 3.2 because there were some problems with it
17:39 cait                             hm and second, I don't have those in my freshly installed 3.4
17:39 adnc                             ohh
17:38 cait                             because I can access the page without being logged in!
17:38 cait                             for once it'snot properly secured
17:38 adnc                             bywater
17:38 adnc                             bywater
17:38 huginn                           New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5889] Allow message names to be translatable <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5889>
17:38 cait                             what's the login for that database?
17:38 cait                             it should not be there
17:38 cait                             interesting
17:37 adnc                             what does it mean? I was just looking through the demo libraries
17:37 cait                             the english name is Rotating collections
17:37 adnc                             http://intranet.bywatersolutions.com/cgi-bin/koha/rotating_collections/rotatingCollections.pl
17:37 cait                             where have you found those?
17:37 adnc                             cait, what are "Wandernde Sammlungen"?
17:31 adnc                             ohh
17:31 huginn                           adnc: The current temperature in Poplar Bluff, Missouri is 17.0�C (12:22 PM CDT on April 25, 2011). Conditions: Heavy Thunderstorms and Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Falling).  Flash Flood Watch in effect through Wednesday evening... 
17:31 adnc                             @wunder help
17:30 huginn                           adnc: The current temperature in Hannover, Wedemark, Germany is 19.7�C (6:58 PM CEST on April 25, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1019.9 hPa (Steady).
17:30 adnc                             @wunder HAJ
17:24 cait                             boo is great
17:21 magnuse                          hehe, lucky me, eh?
17:20 cait                             BOO? lol
17:19 huginn                           cait: The current temperature in Sunikon, Sunikon/Steinmaur, Switzerland is 19.3�C (7:18 PM CEST on April 25, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Pressure: 29.85 in 1010.7 hPa (Steady).
17:19 cait                             @wunder ZRH
17:16 magnuse                          that will save me a lot of typing in the future ;-)
17:15 magnuse                          heh, cool
17:15 huginn                           magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 6.0�C (6:50 PM CEST on April 25, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Windchill: 4.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
17:15 magnuse                          @wunder BOO
17:15 magnuse                          idea: a page on the wiki for keeping track of "preferred names" in koha: virtual shelves/lists, holds/reserves etc
17:15 huginn                           adnc: Error: No such location could be found.
17:15 adnc                             @wunder kiel
17:15 huginn                           adnc: Error: No such location could be found.
17:15 cait                             in my new database the Idem due message is showing up as unknown...
17:14 adnc                             @wunder hamburg
17:14 cait                             hm
17:14 adnc                             unbelievable, istanbul 11°c and brunschweig 18°c
17:14 collum                           25 years since I took German, I'm not even going to try.
17:14 adnc                             ahh
17:14 collum                           adnc: you can also use an airport code
17:14 huginn                           adnc: The current temperature in Istanbul, Turkey is 11.0�C (7:50 PM EEST on April 25, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
17:14 adnc                             @wunder istanbul
17:13 adnc                             ahh
17:13 cait                             ich denke die zahlen waren eine amerikanische postleitzahl
17:13 huginn                           adnc: Error: No such location could be found.
17:13 adnc                             @wunder 11111
17:13 adnc                             und die koordinaten
17:13 huginn                           magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 6.0�C (6:50 PM CEST on April 25, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Windchill: 4.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
17:13 magnuse                          @wunder bodo, norway
17:13 adnc                             ja, ich wollte gerne sehen wie die syntax ist
17:13 huginn                           cait: The current temperature in Vechelde, Germany is 18.9�C (7:00 PM CEST on April 25, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 24%. Dew Point: -2.0�C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1017.5 hPa (Steady).
17:13 cait                             @wunder braunschweig
17:13 cait                             zeigt das wetter an einem ort
17:12 collum                           I'm surprised you're not getting our run-off
17:12 huginn                           adnc: Error: No such location could be found.
17:12 adnc                             @ wunder ?
17:11 cait                             send it here
17:11 collum                           Rain rain go away
17:10 huginn                           collum: The current temperature in Erlanger, Kentucky is 22.2�C (1:12 PM EDT on April 25, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. Pressure: 29.79 in 1008.7 hPa (Steady).  Flash Flood Watch in effect until 8 PM EDT this evening... 
17:10 collum                           @wunder 41017
17:10 cait                             same here
17:10 nengard_lunch                    :(
17:10 nengard_lunch                    it went from FREEZING to SWEATING
17:10 nengard_lunch                    i wanted a spring but we didn't get one
17:10 nengard_lunch                    kind of annoyed
17:10 nengard_lunch                    yeah - i'm sweating here
17:10 cait                             oh, engard wins
17:10 nengard_lunch                    wow! hotter here than in CA
17:10 huginn                           nengard_lunch: The current temperature in JAT Observatory, Fairless Hills, Pennsylvania is 26.9�C (1:03 PM EDT on April 25, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011.4 hPa (Falling).
17:10 nengard_lunch                    @wunder 19030
17:09 huginn                           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2246 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, cnighswonger, NEW, Label printing doesn't work with Unicode characters
17:09 adnc                             I just see that bug 2246 is from 2008
17:09 cait                             nope
17:09 adnc                             cait, ich denke es gibt noch kein paket-koha 3.4 ;)
17:08 adnc                             ;)
17:08 cait                             rangi is still sleeping ;)
17:07 adnc                             hello
17:07 cait                             hi adnc
17:06 huginn                           cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 20.0�C (7:00 PM CEST on April 25, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 17%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013 hPa (Falling).
17:06 cait                             @wunder Konstanz
17:05 huginn                           bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 17.2�C (10:07 AM PDT on April 25, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018.2 hPa (Falling).  Wind Advisory in effect until 9 PM PDT this evening... 
17:05 bg                               @wunder 93109
17:05 bg                               hiya
17:05 cait                             hi bg :)
17:05 bg                               @wunder 93109
17:04 cait                             we need a karma blame to track that person down
17:04 cait                             decreased??
17:03 huginn                           cait: Karma for "community" has been increased 4 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 3.
17:03 cait                             @karma community
17:03 gmcharlt                         koha_community++
17:03 cait                             koha_community++
17:03 gmcharlt                         that's it?
17:03 huginn                           magnuse: Karma for "koha_community" has been increased 2 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 2.
17:03 magnuse                          @karma koha_community
17:03 magnuse                          koha_community++
17:03 * magnuse                        notes 44 minutes from first report of shelf browser problem to signed-off patch!
16:51 nengard                          those two work :)
16:51 nengard                          oo thanks
16:50 cait                             owen's new comments feature?
16:50 cait                             ? :)
16:50 cait                             q
16:50 cait                             bulkordering of staged marc file in ac
16:49 cait                             ok
16:49 nengard                          http://bywatersolutions.blip.tv/file/4714887/
16:49 nengard                          i do :)
16:49 cait                             if you don't have that already :)
16:49 cait                             opac privacy page?
16:48 nengard                          http://bywatersolutions.blip.tv/posts?view=archive&nsfw=dc
16:48 nengard                          i took a few weeks off so i need to get more in the bank :)
16:48 cait                             hmm
16:48 nengard                          they can be tini tiny short videos
16:47 nengard                          any tutorial video requests?
16:36 library_systems_guy              haha
16:36 cait                             hehe
16:36 wizzyrea                         he gets up in what, 3 hours :)
16:36 cait                             those things go in pretty fast and it's already signed-off and easy to test
16:36 library_systems_guy              (no pun intended)
16:36 cait                             should not be long until it's available
16:36 library_systems_guy              so no big push
16:36 library_systems_guy              yeah we're not in prod yet
16:36 wizzyrea                         lol you're too fast jcamins
16:35 wizzyrea                         also that
16:35 jcamins                          I suggest waiting, though.
16:35 wizzyrea                         technically if you were ... what he said
16:35 jcamins                          Or you can download the patch and apply it yourself, if you need it immediately.
16:35 library_systems_guy              ok :)
16:35 jcamins                          library_systems_guy: you'll have to wait until rangi pushes it.
16:35 cait                             not yet, rangi has to push it into 3.4 first
16:35 library_systems_guy              so to pull it down i can just do a fetch?
16:34 library_systems_guy              since im not in the best standing with the library staff
16:34 nengard                          and it's an easy one to test
16:34 huginn                           New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6263] shelf browser doesn't work in 3.4 <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6263>
16:34 nengard                          cait, i have those commands in muscle memory now :) i can type them so fast and then i just have to test :)
16:34 library_systems_guy              margo...
16:33 library_systems_guy              no lie
16:33 nengard                          now share that process with your staff so they can see how open source works
16:33 cait                             :)
16:33 cait                             you are fast!!
16:33 nengard                          margo and library_systems_guy it is fixed :)
16:33 library_systems_guy              w00t
16:33 nengard                          works lovely!
16:33 nengard                          signed off and submitted
16:31 cait                             done
16:31 nengard                          okey dokey
16:30 cait                             nengard: attaching the patch to the bug now
16:30 jcamins                          boxbe--
16:27 cait                             np :)
16:26 nengard                          thanks
16:26 nengard                          okey dokey :)
16:25 cait                             it's another tt problem
16:25 cait                             found a problem with the navigation, trying to fix that now
16:24 cait                             I will send a patch
16:24 nengard                          to test
16:24 nengard                          cait, what do i do?
16:22 cait                             I have only one item in my database - that makes it a bit hard, but I have the link showing up and he shelf browser opeining
16:21 cait                             can you test it?
16:21 cait                             nengard: I think I found the problem
16:13 margo                            thanks
16:08 nengard                          you can add yourself to the CC so you see when it has been fixed
16:08 huginn                           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6263 major, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, shelf browser doesn't work in 3.4
16:08 nengard                          Bug 6263 reported
16:07 library_systems_guy              woo bugs
16:07 nengard                          off to report the bug
16:07 nengard                          it's not working on mine either
16:07 nengard                          it's a bug
16:07 nengard                          yup
16:07 jcamins                          Did you run the script to remove items from the biblioitems?
16:06 library_systems_guy              3.4
16:06 nengard                          what version are you guys on?
16:06 nengard                          i need to test on my install
16:06 nengard                          but that it's not showing
16:06 nengard                          i see that your preferences are right
16:06 nengard                          no i don't
16:04 margo                            you see the browse shelf?
16:04 margo                            sorry, was looking at something else
16:03 nengard                          i'm searching your catalog now and you get the info there!
16:03 nengard                          how's it going margo?
15:56 library_systems_guy              si
15:56 nengard                          library_systems_guy I sent you a private message ... did you get it?
15:56 margo                            anyone can call me that
15:56 margo                            lol
15:56 library_systems_guy              smh nice...nickname margo
15:56 margo                            hey!
15:56 nengard                          margo! :)
15:55 library_systems_guy              and they have call numbers attached
15:54 library_systems_guy              she says yes
15:54 library_systems_guy              good question, let me ask margo
15:53 nengard                          library_systems_guy do your bib records have items attached?
15:52 library_systems_guy              and i don't get a shelf, so could it be the records we are importing?
15:51 library_systems_guy              ok so I currently have use home branch and use location
15:50 nengard                          they ask where to look for info on how to sort ... branch, shelving location and collection code
15:50 nengard                          there are three preferences linked to that one that you need to set
15:49 library_systems_guy              is there anything I should have turned on to view the shelf in the opac other than the OPACShelfBrowser setting?
15:34 druthb                           They'll be boggled enough at the gender-mismatch on my passport application.
15:33 nengard                          ha!
15:33 wizzyrea                         at least for now, that's still a sacred space :P
15:33 wizzyrea                         I have a suspicion about "who benefits" but it's probably best left in my mind
15:32 nengard                          i mean her birth was pre computers and they hadn't digitized her stuff (if they ever were going to)
15:31 nengard                          my mom tried to do that ... get her birth cert from the state, but it was pre computers and it took months to get it ... my point being, it's all a bit crazy and who are they protecting really by asking all of this?
15:30 wizzyrea                         so if you know that
15:30 wizzyrea                         nengard: you can usually get a copy from the state where you were born
15:22 nengard                          cause i don't know if i have my birth certificate ... cause as i said, we moved like a 100 times when i was growing up (not that many - but still)
15:22 nengard                          what if i have a passport already?
15:16 wizzyrea                         but it's still pretty ludicrous
15:15 wizzyrea                         the comments are somewhat encouraging, i.e. if you have a birth cert they won't make you do that
15:14 nengard                          do you know how many times i moved as a kid? I don't!!!
15:14 nengard                          what???
15:13 wizzyrea                         http://www.boingboing.net/2011/04/25/state-dept-adding-in.html srsly?
15:12 wizzyrea                         k ty, I'll check
15:12 nengard                          wizzyrea, i moved the 3.4 manual to a different brancha nd master is the 3.6 manual if that effects your scripts
15:05 cait                             bbl
15:05 cait                             ok, going to take a break
14:58 cait                             or is he talking about repeating u several times in one tag?
14:57 huginn                           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4958 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, XSLT views in staff client and OPAC don't show multiple URL subfields
14:57 cait                             oh, bug 4958 - that sounds like one that can be closed :)
14:56 wizzyrea                         (at the time)
14:56 wizzyrea                         not on our production system.
14:56 wizzyrea                         Koha*
14:56 wizzyrea                         and that was tested on Koah
14:56 wizzyrea                         actually unspecified version is probably better than a specific one
14:55 wizzyrea                         but it does still happen
14:55 wizzyrea                         a lot less than it used to
14:55 wizzyrea                         yea, this still happens afaict
14:55 cait                             or link to holds rewrite?
14:54 cait                             perhaps updating version?
14:54 huginn                           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4373 major, P2, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Placing and Processing Items Simultaneously causes multiple issues
14:54 wizzyrea                         bug 4373
14:54 wizzyrea                         k sec
14:54 cait                             wizzyrea: the next one is from you: 4373
14:53 cait                             yes, I think if it was a general thing we would have heard about it
14:53 cait                             although i would prefer to get the number down some more
14:53 wizzyrea                         at the very least, it sounds like the sort of thing that would be a local data problem
14:53 cait                             it feels good to at least close some of this bugs
14:52 cait                             thx :)
14:52 wizzyrea                         yes, I think that is what I'm saying >.>
14:52 nengard                          cait .. i did
14:52 cait                             I will mark worksforme
14:52 nengard                          checking it on my system right now, but i think you're right
14:52 nengard                          wizzyrea are you saying it's not a Koha bug?
14:51 wizzyrea                         and the date
14:51 wizzyrea                         looking at the reporter for that
14:50 wizzyrea                         um
14:50 huginn                           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4308 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Inventory - shelving locations has multiple entries
14:50 wizzyrea                         bug 4308
14:48 cait                             no double ups
14:48 cait                             looks ok to me in 3.4
14:48 cait                             can someone confirm 4308?
14:46 cait                             :)
14:46 wizzyrea                         double ups are found at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/#5
14:46 wahanui                          wizzyrea: I forgot double ups
14:46 wizzyrea                         forget double ups
14:46 wahanui                          double ups are listed in the faq as indexing issues
14:46 wizzyrea                         double ups?
14:46 cait                             yep, put a link in there
14:46 wizzyrea                         double ups are found at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/#5
14:46 wizzyrea                         http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/#5
14:45 wahanui                          hmmm... faq is found at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/
14:45 wizzyrea                         faq?
14:45 wizzyrea                         double ups are listed in the faq as indexing issues
14:44 cait                             search faq?
14:43 wizzyrea                         is enough
14:43 wizzyrea                         checking the repo
14:43 wizzyrea                         the multiple holds one
14:43 cait                             wizzyrea: what is enough for which bug?:)
14:43 wizzyrea                         that would be enough for me
14:43 cait                             perhaps a quick check in the git repo to make sure it's not there any longer?
14:42 wizzyrea                         well it's only a problem in 3.0.x?
14:42 cait                             and the multiple holds thing - really not sure aboutthat
14:42 cait                             or invalid perhaps
14:42 cait                             I tend to a wontfix for the indexing bug, with a comment that it sounds like problems with indexing and there is no known bug like this
14:40 oleonard                         I can't remember hearing what the guidelines are about rel_3_0 bugs
14:40 cait                             reassign to hdl?
14:38 cait                             what shoudl we do?
14:38 cait                             ok
14:38 huginn                           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3771 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, nahuel.angelinetti, ASSIGNED, Multiple holds on opac results
14:38 oleonard                         Bug 3771 is also rel_3_0
14:36 cait                             or perhaps wontfix as it's 3.0?
14:36 cait                             sounds like ap roblem with indexing to me
14:36 huginn                           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3879 enhancement, P2, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Showing Multiple entries in Opac and staff client
14:36 cait                             bug 3879 - can I close that one?
14:34 gmcharlt                         hi chris_n
14:33 chris_n                          agreed wahanui
14:32 wahanui                          i heard gmcharlt was an expert in all things library technology.
14:32 chris_n                          heya gmcharlt
14:30 huginn                           gmcharlt: The operation succeeded.
14:30 gmcharlt                         @later tell rangi time for a 3.4.x branch, or are you waiting until 3.4.1 to branch?
14:28 cait                             :)
14:25 oleonard                         nengard: As long as that insert records aspect is confirmed fixed, yes
14:25 jcamins                          cait: delicious!
14:24 huginn                           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5547 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED, A "hidelostitems" option for the staff client
14:24 nengard                          oleonard can bug 5547 be closed?
14:24 cait                             how did the cookies turn out?
14:24 jcamins                          cait: not so's you'd be able to tell. ;)
14:24 cait                             are you singing jcamins? :)
14:23 jcamins                          Gee, kindly judge your honor, you gotta understand...
14:23 jcamins                          I want to be in America, okay by me in America...
14:22 cait                             perhaps west side story would be better
14:22 cait                             at the moment I have all those old bugs flowing around in my head
14:21 nengard                          cait that looks okay
14:21 chris_n                          based on the suggested list of supported OS's that is
14:20 cait                             nengard: about 6262 - I will add a see also to 2084, ok?
14:20 chris_n                          the word "optimal" is apparently owned by Redmond
14:20 oleonard                         chris_n: Also, "Go back to Russia you commie"
14:19 wizzyrea                         bleh
14:19 chris_n                          because I run an open source OS I get junk like this: "We have detected that your operating system does not meet the optimal webcast specifications for listening to and/or viewing webcasts."
14:14 huginn                           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6211 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED, SubscriptionHistory doesn't have default value set
14:14 nengard                          does anyone have a brandy new install they can test bug 6211 on?
14:14 cait                             and for the newsletter, documentation and a lot of other things :)
14:14 cait                             :)
14:14 nengard                          oh bug wrangling :) hehe
14:13 nengard                          for?
14:13 cait                             and nengard++ too
14:12 jcamins                          tcohen: no idea.
14:11 cait                             chris_n++
14:11 tcohen                           does the job, right?
14:11 tcohen                           jcamins: memoize_memcached( 'GetMarcStructure', memcached => $memcached, expire_time => 600 );
14:09 cait                             chris_n for commenting :)
14:08 chris_n                          cait++ //bug-wrangling
13:52 huginn                           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3771 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, nahuel.angelinetti, ASSIGNED, Multiple holds on opac results
13:52 cait                             bug 3771
13:52 cait                             someone an idea about 3771?
13:46 tcohen                           yeap, what I mean is when at cataloguing, koha gets the framework definition from DB
13:45 cait                             jcamins/tcohen: the default framework is under mandatory
13:44 jcamins                          Wait, you said from, not into. Never mind.
13:44 jcamins                          tcohen: I think memcached already stores frameworks.
13:44 jcamins                          kohaclone/installer/data/mysql/en/marcflavour/marc21/optional/*
13:44 tcohen                           s/su/so/
13:44 tcohen                           su memcached is used to store them too
13:44 huginn                           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6193 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED, Use memcached cache koha-conf.xml configuration variables
13:44 tcohen                           i'm willing to do some tests using the code for bug 6193
13:43 tcohen                           hi, anyone can point me to the files where marc frameworks are loaded from database?
13:41 cait                             cool, thx
13:41 gmcharlt                         cait: yes
13:40 cait                             sorry, I wondered about wrappers for some time and trying to understand :)
13:40 cait                             another function that calls the standard DelMember function and checks for permission?
13:38 gmcharlt                         the idea being to use a wrapper instead of individually modifying every C4 routine that might benefit from a permissions check
13:38 gmcharlt                         a wrapper function like I propose would also take the user's session and the required permissions as parameters, and if the session has the right permissions, run the specified routiine
13:37 gmcharlt                         oleonard: DelMember() as a regular C4 routine doesn't take the user's session into account
13:37 oleonard                         gmcharlt: Sorry, I don't understand
13:35 gmcharlt                         i.e., something like RunIfPermitted($session, { required permissions }, DelMember(...));
13:35 oleonard                         A separate wrapper?
13:35 gmcharlt                         oleonard: yes, or perhaps with a separate wrapper
13:33 gmcharlt                         cait: yes
13:33 oleonard                         Would it be appropriate to move the code quoted there into Members.pm?
13:32 huginn                           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5986 normal, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, Inconsistent handling of patron deletion permission
13:32 oleonard                         Soliciting opinions on Bug 5986
13:31 cait                             thx gmcharlt - ok to link to the backup?
13:30 gmcharlt                         actually, 2522 can be marked as resolved complete
13:30 gmcharlt                         cait: apologies, I did not look at this closely enough
13:25 cait                             and the cronjob
13:24 cait                             gmcharlt: we have that table mentioned there
13:24 cait                             gmcharlt: what do you suggest for the bug?
13:23 cait                             hm later then :)
13:22 jcamins                          cait: my test box is currently on 3.3.0.32, and I'm not seeing it.
13:22 gmcharlt                         and the proposed feature was never implemented
13:21 gmcharlt                         cait: here's the archive of the wiki page - http://librarypolice.com/wiki.koha.org/en:development:rfcs3.2:rfc32_hold_request_targeting.html
13:20 cait                             why?
13:20 cait                             late in 3.4 dev
13:20 jcamins                          cait: when did you add UseControlNumber?
13:20 jcamins                          It's a good show.
13:20 huginn                           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2522 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, implement hold request targeting
13:20 cait                             gmcharlt: bug 2522 - can this be closed?
13:19 * cait                           is happy do not know West side story
13:17 jcamins                          mtj: thanks a lot for asking a question that got West Side Story stuck in my head. :P
13:17 mtj                              gosh, that sounds like a pain...
13:16 jcamins                          Kind of.
13:16 jcamins                          That would make sense.
13:16 jcamins                          Could be. Who knows. There's something due any day...
13:15 mtj                              my hunch is different index types are called with a different syntax?
13:14 jcamins                          Oh, right.
13:14 mtj                              im not sure, that why i ask you :)
13:13 jcamins                          mtj: really? How so?
13:13 mtj                              im curious… the zebra config files determine which way you need to call them?
13:11 jcamins                          With some searches, you have to use index:"string" and with others index:{string}
13:11 jcamins                          Probably C4::Search.
13:11 jcamins                          Ah.
13:10 gmcharlt                         zebra or C4::Search?
13:10 jcamins                          Incidentally, Zebra's apparently random behavior wrt quoting is absurd.
13:09 jcamins                          It turns out that the problem was the offset.
13:09 jcamins                          Thank you.
13:09 jcamins                          gmcharlt: yeah, eventaully I figured it out.
13:08 gmcharlt                         jcamins: to answer your question - find/create an index on the 035$a, using that in the matching rule definition along with specifying 035$a as the field and subfield
13:07 gmcharlt                         good morning
12:56 mtj                              *very* impressive stuff!
12:55 nengard                          thanks :)
12:55 mtj                              nengard: amazing work on the doco repo
12:53 nengard                          hehe ... hope that's excitement :) hehe
12:53 mtj                              zzzZaNgGgG!!
12:52 nengard                          thank you :)
12:52 nengard                          http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=kohadocs.git;a=summary
12:52 nengard                          woo hoo!!
12:52 mtj                              im a bit rusty on pushes, i mainly do pulls :/
12:52 mtj                              Find a ref that matches master in the source repository (most likely, it would find refs/heads/master), and update the same ref (e.g. refs/heads/master) in origin repository with it. If master did not exist remotely, it would be created.
12:51 mtj                              git push origin master
12:51 mtj                              .
12:50 mtj                              $ git push origin manual3.4.x
12:50 mtj                              or
12:50 magnuse                          yeah, the thing after push should be the name of the repo, not a branch
12:49 mtj                              $ git push origin
12:49 mtj                              $ git checkout manual3.4.x
12:48 nengard                          fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly
12:48 nengard                          fatal: 'manual3.4.x' does not appear to be a git repository
12:48 nengard                          new-host-3:clonedoc nengard$ git push manual3.4.x origin
12:48 nengard                          Switched to branch 'manual3.4.x'
12:48 mtj                              i think that example is better
12:47 mtj                              $ git push manual3.4.x origin
12:47 mtj                              oops…
12:47 jcamins                          nengard: oh, try it without the "/manual3.4.x"
12:47 nengard                          nope
12:46 nengard                          probably
12:46 nengard                          do i need to be in the master branch?
12:46 nengard                          oh wait
12:46 nengard                          fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly
12:46 nengard                          fatal: 'manual3.4.x' does not appear to be a git repository
12:46 nengard                          new-host-3:clonedoc nengard$ git push manual3.4.x master/manual3.4.x
12:46 mtj                              cool, jcamins example should be good then
12:46 magnuse                          have a look at the examples here? http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-push.html
12:45 Oak                              \o
12:45 nengard                          origin  gitmaster@git.koha-community.org:kohadocs.git (push)
12:45 nengard                          origin  gitmaster@git.koha-community.org:kohadocs.git (fetch)
12:45 mtj                              will tell you what 'master' really is
12:44 mtj                              $ git remote -v
12:44 mtj                              well, master *prolly* equals  git://git.koha-community.org/kohadocs.git
12:44 cait                             hm
12:44 jcamins                          nengard: in that case, mtj is probably right.
12:44 cait                             I think probably both work
12:44 conan                            hi all
12:44 nengard                          um ... you both said something diff
12:43 mtj                              sure you do
12:43 mtj                              git push manual3.4.x  git://git.koha-community.org/kohadocs.git
12:43 cait                             yes
12:43 jcamins                          nengard: git push manual3.4.x master/manual3.4.x
12:43 nengard                          oh wait ... do i have to push with a specific command to push that branch?
12:42 pastebot                         "nengard" at 98.114.30.184 pasted "new manual branch" (8 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/24
12:42 nengard                          k ... that didn't work
12:40 tcohen                           yaaaaum
12:39 nengard                          off to try :)
12:39 nengard                          okey dokey
12:37 mtj                              … (based from 'master')
12:37 mtj                              - make a 'manual3.4.x' branch
12:37 mtj                              - commit all your stuff
12:36 mtj                              - change to master
12:36 mtj                              so, on your local repo...
12:36 mtj                              yes, i reckon so
12:35 nengard                          and it will be public
12:35 nengard                          So, i create a branch locally and then push
12:35 mtj                              yeah, all good
12:35 nengard                          hi :) !!
12:35 mtj                              and 'hi' too :)
12:35 nengard                          i am
12:35 nengard                          yes
12:34 mtj                              nengard:  it sounds like you are working from a clone of that repo
12:33 mtj                              ok, so its not public there, until you push it there
12:32 mtj                              my advice, take a copy, fiddle on your copy, push it to there, when you are happy
12:32 mtj                              well, yes - if you create a branch on *that* repo, its public….
12:32 nengard                          I have the ability to push to there of course
12:31 mtj                              ah
12:31 nengard                          http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=kohadocs.git;a=summary
12:30 mtj                              nengard: i dont know what repo you are working on
12:30 cait                             soemthing like git push localname remotename:namethere
12:30 mtj                              pass
12:30 cait                             hm, you will have to push the branch I think
12:29 nengard                          mtj and that will do that on the public repo - not just locally?
12:29 mtj                              cait:  yep, yours is a better example, than mine
12:29 wahanui                          somebody said cait 3.4 was master
12:29 oleonard                         cait 3.4?
12:29 nengard                          cait 3.4 is master
12:28 cait                             and hi mason :)
12:28 cait                             I think the question is from where you want to start that branch off?
12:28 mtj                              creates a branch, then changes to that branch
12:28 cait                             ?
12:28 cait                             or git checkout -b newbrnachname
12:27 mtj                              $ git checkout 'foofoo'
12:27 mtj                              $ git  branch 'foofoo'
12:27 wahanui                          cait: I forgot master
12:27 cait                             wahanui forget master
12:27 wahanui                          the master is now running from template::toolkit
12:27 cait                             what is the master?
12:26 cait                             hm not sure how you have structured your branches there
12:25 nengard                          git experts, I need some help creating another branch in the Koha Documentation repo for the 3.6 manual.
12:21 cait                             cool
12:21 oleonard                         I'll see what I can do
12:20 cait                             oleonard: I hope you can comment/close some of the real old onces concerning template things
12:20 magnuse                          hehe cool!
12:19 cait                             but I used huginn to compile a long list with things I want to pester people about
12:19 cait                             I hope you do!
12:18 magnuse                          joking! ;-)
12:18 magnuse                          nah, we just delete them without reading...
12:18 cait                             for sending all the mails to the list
12:18 cait                             and I thought you would think up ways to punish me by now
12:18 cait                             hehe
12:17 druthb                           cait++
12:16 oleonard                         cait++ # for Bugzilla work
12:13 oleonard                         Hi
12:12 magnuse                          hiya oleonard
12:12 NateC                            no that was yesterday
12:12 NateC                            Hi cait!
12:12 cait                             no holiday in US today?
12:12 cait                             hi oleonard
12:12 cait                             hi NateC
12:10 NateC                            HI magnuse
12:09 magnuse                          hiya NateC
12:01 magnuse                          \o
12:01 cait                             hi druthb :)
12:00 druthb                           o/
11:54 cait                             trying to clean up a little
11:53 cait                             flooding even
11:53 cait                             sorry for flodding the bugs list
11:34 JesseM                           Hi cait
11:32 cait                             top
11:32 cait                             should start reading on toü
11:31 jwagner                          Hi cait
11:31 cait                             oh and hi nengard, hi jwagner
11:31 cait                             hi JesseM :)
11:29 JesseM                           Good Morning
11:28 nengard                          good morning
11:28 jwagner                          Hi magnuse
11:28 magnuse                          hiya nengard and jwagner
10:59 cait                             I thought we had on shelf
10:59 huginn                           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2465 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, availability of a reserved book
10:59 cait                             hm bug 2465
10:54 cait                             I think he was actively working on a solution lately
10:53 cait                             I think what you could do is update the bug with the examples
10:53 adnc                             the rest did have german/turkish characters
10:52 adnc                             indeet i used one without umlautes, an english book. it does the etiquette
10:52 wahanui                          cait: I forgot umlauts
10:52 cait                             wahanui: forget umlauts
10:52 adnc                             cait, ok
10:52 wahanui                          umlauts are a bigger problem?
10:52 cait                             umlauts?
10:52 cait                             hm
10:50 adnc                             well I tried with even only one
10:50 cait                             or one without and one with
10:50 cait                             perhaps you can try with a small set of records
10:50 cait                             he is working on it, it seems to be a more general problem with the way pdf are produced. I have not worked enough with that module to tell if umlauts are the problem.
10:49 adnc                             is this still with 3.4
10:48 cait                             some strange character somewhere
10:48 huginn                           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2246 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, cnighswonger, NEW, Label printing doesn't work with Unicode characters
10:48 cait                             bug 2246
10:47 cait                             yes
10:47 adnc                             i've this in my logs
10:47 adnc                             [error] [client 77.20.244.49] [Mon Apr 25 12:08:53 2011] label-create-csv.pl: Wide character in print at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/labels/label-create-csv.pl line 63.,
10:46 adnc                             is installed
10:46 adnc                             i A libgraphics-magick-perl
10:46 cait                             but yellow indicates probably your version is only a bit lower
10:46 cait                             I think Graphics::Magick is probably used for labels
10:45 cait                             ah
10:45 adnc                             Storable is yellow and Graphics::Magick
10:45 cait                             when you open the damaged pdf in a text editor, what do you see?
10:45 cait                             there should be yellow /red fields if something is missing
10:44 adnc                             i see  long list of perl modules, how can i find out if those are installed? there are some written in fett/big
10:44 adnc                             ohh there is a tab ;) sorry
10:43 adnc                             Perl @INC shows a list, but nothing about modules
10:42 adnc                             ;)
10:42 adnc                             ich benutze gar keine
10:42 cait                             ja :)
10:42 cait                             and checking about > perl modules - is there something missing?
10:42 adnc                             callnumbers? signaturen meinst du?
10:42 cait                             do you have umlauts in your callnumbers?
10:41 adnc                             hallo cait
10:41 adnc                             the pdf created by koha for signature, etiquettes, patron cards etc. are all damaged. the cvs and xml do contain the informations. what could be wrong?
10:41 cait                             so bad translatio on my part ;)
10:38 adnc                             magnuse,
10:38 adnc                             hallo
10:38 magnuse                          guten tag adnc
10:38 magnuse                          ah, it's in all of them, just called different things...
10:35 magnuse                          installer/data/mysql/pl-PL/mandatory/userflags.sql:INSERT INTO `userflags` VALUES(12,'management','Set library management parameters',0);
10:35 magnuse                          installer/data/mysql/en/mandatory/userflags.sql:INSERT INTO `userflags` VALUES(12,'management','Set library management parameters',0);
10:35 magnuse                          grep -r "Set library management parameters" *
10:35 magnuse                          hm
10:34 cait                             I agree the permission is still ther e- but I am not sure it stil does the same thing
10:34 cait                             I translated it so to something like "access to administration"
10:33 cait                             sql
10:33 magnuse                          where are the names etc stored? template? script? database?
10:33 magnuse                          cait: u huh? my upgraded install has it...
10:31 cait                             magnuse: I think managemet got reworded at some point
10:31 cait                             magnuse: ah... i only see the German descriptions
10:30 Cybermon                         let me try
10:30 cait                             magnuse: you sure you have that permissions?
10:30 cait                             without the -
10:29 Cybermon                         what does mean hyphens ?
10:29 cait                             have you tried searching without the hyphens?
10:28 Cybermon                         how can i enable search by ISBN ?
10:19 magnuse                          good idea
10:18 cait                             and glad to hear someone is reading my comments - that's what I am trying to accomplish. get some fresh comments and thoughts on the old bugs :)
10:18 cait                             can you update the bug?
10:18 cait                             sorry, prehaps I got confused there
10:17 cait                             oh?
10:16 huginn                           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2426 major, P3, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, Management Permissions Deprecated
10:16 magnuse                          cait: re bug 2426: i still have "management Set library management parameters" in my permissions on 3.4
10:15 magnuse                          not sure huginn is the one that likes cookies?
10:10 cait                             ok, so no cookies for helping me bug wrangling
10:10 cait                             hm.
10:10 cait                             !huginn botsnack cookie
10:09 huginn                           cait: I've exhausted my database of quotes
10:09 cait                             huginn botsnack cookie
10:09 SpaceLibrarian_home              night!
10:08 cait                             sleep tight
10:06 magnuse                          sleep tight rangi
10:05 rangi                            see ya in the morning SpaceLibrarian_home
10:04 rangi                            ok, my shirt is ironed, time for sleep
10:04 rangi                            :)
10:04 rangi                            maybe ill catch up to myself
10:04 huginn                           rangi: Highest karma: "oleonard" (253), "gmcharlt" (249), and "chris" (236).  Lowest karma: "<!" (-101), "failed" (-52), and "-" (-35).  You (rangi) are ranked 13 out of 1385.
10:04 rangi                            @karma
10:04 rangi                            heh
10:00 magnuse                          rangi++ # ditto :-)
10:00 cait                             rangi++ for general awesomeness and because I feel like it
09:39 cait                             if nobody cares about fixing it...
09:37 rangi                            imho
09:37 rangi                            yeah, its never really worked, and was a silly idea to begin with
09:35 cait                             :)
09:35 cait                             ok, perhaps we can deprecate it
09:35 rangi                            but will when i get a chance
09:35 rangi                            right, i probably wont get a chance this week
09:35 cait                             I stared at the code for a long time yesterday and I have no idea why it doesn't work
09:34 cait                             because at the moment it's broken
09:34 cait                             no idea, but perhaps we should remove the build new then
09:34 cait                             I think I remember you wrote that and it's not working now
09:34 rangi                            do people still use those?
09:34 cait                             if you get a minute sometime rangi - can you look at guided reports?
09:33 rangi                            cool thanks
09:33 magnuse                          rangi: patch sent: http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-patches/2011-April/014923.html
09:31 cait                             hmpf ;)
09:31 magnuse                          cait: sounds more like brunch at this hour?!? ;-)
09:29 * cait                           needs a bug wrangling  break for breakfast
09:22 magnuse                          goody!
09:21 paul_p                           seems things went well...
09:21 paul_p                           hi magnuse & cait. Nope, not another script, just checking script launched yesterday ;-)
09:20 cait                             hi paul_p - another script?
09:20 magnuse                          kia ora paul_p
09:18 magnuse                          ok
09:17 rangi                            hmm i think for this nope, that isnt necessary
09:17 rangi                            try a patch (sometimes they end up complaining a line is too long)
09:17 magnuse                          should i create a bug for it too?
09:16 magnuse                          ok
09:16 rangi                            might need to be a pull request
09:16 magnuse                          ...i presume?
09:16 magnuse                          and send a patch?
09:15 magnuse                          rangi: ok, will do
09:15 rangi                            ahh, can you do a git mv on it
09:15 magnuse                          yeah, i saw the warning when i went to the currencies page
09:15 magnuse                          rangi: there is a filename problem in the .po files: nb-NO-i-staff-t-prog-v-3002000.po is called nb-NO-i-staff-prog-v-3002000.po, which gives an error when installing nb-NO
09:14 cait                             in acq it shows a warning
09:14 cait                             no it's not set at all by default
09:13 * magnuse                        would have thought the default was to have USD active...
09:13 cait                             cool
09:13 magnuse                          then it works
09:12 cait                             :)
09:12 magnuse                          and i didn't have one set to active
09:12 magnuse                          Home � Administration � Currencies & Exchange Rates � Currencies - of course
09:11 magnuse                          ah found it
09:11 magnuse                          cait: huh? i can't find any currency syspref?!? only CurrencyFormat
09:09 Cybermon                         sorry -:)
09:08 magnuse                          cait: lemme check
09:08 cait                             Cybermon: talking to magnuse :)
09:08 Cybermon                         not yet
09:08 cait                             do you have an active currency set?
09:08 magnuse                          cait: for english too?
09:07 cait                             that's why I didn't wanted it to go into 3.4
09:07 Cybermon                         fine.
09:07 cait                             and retranslate
09:07 cait                             update your po file
09:07 magnuse                          i'm fine thank you Cybermon  - and you?
09:07 cait                             yes
09:07 Cybermon                         i almost did my zebra indexing by http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.com/Cyrillic-Character-Search-w-Zebra-td3048428.html
09:07 cait                             hm
09:07 Cybermon                         how are you?
09:07 huginn                           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6228 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Show active currency in system preferences
09:07 magnuse                          cait: i'm trying to sign off on your patch for bug 6228, but the currencies don't show up after applying the patch. is there something else that needs to be done?
09:07 Cybermon                         hi magnuse.
09:06 magnuse                          hi Cybermon
09:05 Cybermon                         hi all
09:04 Cybermon                         hi all
09:04 cait                             would be nice for opac too probably, but I see there is some discussion about that
09:04 cait                             :)
09:04 cait                             ok
09:04 rangi                            http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commit;h=36e3bed7b1a58eff6b07b5ed882bd4c2bd179a66
09:04 rangi                            just staff
09:03 wahanui                          i guess opac is for patrons
09:03 cait                             and opac?
09:03 rangi                            nope staff too
09:03 cait                             and tomas had added a comment on the old one, saying that he had done smth similar for staff and what to do aobu tit
09:02 rangi                            hmm lemme check the commit
09:02 cait                             hm I am not sure, I thought 5791 was only or opac
09:02 rangi                            ahh i think if we mark 5791 resolved fixed, that one can be done too
09:01 huginn                           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2318 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Attempting to view details of a biblio that does not exists results in a 404 error
09:01 cait                             bug 2318
09:01 cait                             c
09:01 cait                             there is one open for opa
09:00 cait                             thx :)
09:00 huginn                           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5791 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED, Robust handling of deleted biblios/authorities
09:00 rangi                            bug 5791
08:59 rangi                            lemme find it
08:59 rangi                            tcohen or conan did it, made the error handlng a lot better
08:59 rangi                            ahh that was a recent one
08:57 cait                             I know it's there but can't find it
08:55 cait                             searchign for the bug about the error pages in staff when record not exists
08:55 cait                             hmpf
08:41 cait                             love that term
08:41 cait                             bug_archeology++
08:41 cait                             hehe
08:37 magnuse                          for doing bug archeology!
08:37 magnuse                          cait++
08:36 magnuse                          hehe
08:36 cait                             should probably be me, not magnuse
08:35 cait                             lol
08:35 magnuse                          ?!?
08:35 wahanui                          rumour has it magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza
08:35 rangi                            heya magnuse
08:34 magnuse                          and hi rangi
08:34 magnuse                          hiya SpaceLibrarian_home
08:33 SpaceLibrarian_home              hey magnuse
08:28 magnuse                          hiya cait & #koha
08:27 cait                             hi magnuse :)
08:27 magnuse                          that sounds like good plans for 3.6!
08:24 SpaceLibrarian_home              XTF looks interesting...
08:23 SpaceLibrarian_home              rangi:  I saw.
08:23 cait                             hm
08:22 rangi                            to support zebra and solr
08:22 rangi                            i mean the whole search module will be rewritten for 3.6
08:21 cait                             replaced by?
08:20 rangi                            it
08:20 rangi                            well hopefully C4/Search will disappear to be replaced by Koha/Search an nozebra will disappear with tit
08:20 rangi                            cait: yep the plan is to remove the syspref and all the code that uses it for 3.6
08:19 rangi                            looks interesting, i might have to try it out sometime
08:18 cait                             hm no
08:17 rangi                            cait: have you seen http://xtf.cdlib.org/
08:17 cait                             I understood you :)
08:17 cait                             and I told him I want those ugly english strings from the database gone
08:17 rangi                            what does that even mean????
08:17 rangi                            all a lot
08:16 cait                             I hope so too
08:16 rangi                            hopefully fix all a lot
08:16 rangi                            cait: yeah he is doing a big rewrite
08:16 rangi                            SpaceLibrarian_home: i just sent a whereis for us
08:15 cait                             there are lots of things I could link to one :)
08:15 cait                             I asked robin about a bug for accounts
08:09 rangi                            hehe
08:06 cait                             perhaps we should deprecate more features ;)
08:06 cait                             yay :)
08:06 rangi                            yup
08:05 cait                             ok, all of them?
08:04 rangi                            yep resolved wont fix
08:04 rangi                            about the nozebra one?
08:01 cait                             ah, got my question?
08:00 rangi                            :)
07:59 * cait                           should work on her presentation
07:59 cait                             ah :)
07:59 SpaceLibrarian_home              That looks great!
07:58 SpaceLibrarian_home              ah there we go
07:57 SpaceLibrarian_home              it's not letting me look at that link...
07:57 rangi                            SpaceLibrarian_home and I are doing training tomorrow tho
07:57 rangi                            yep
07:57 cait                             isn't today a holiday for you too?
07:57 rangi                            SpaceLibrarian_home: yep not too bad
07:57 rangi                            https://launchpad.net/koha
07:56 rangi                            just updated launchpad
07:56 SpaceLibrarian_home              happy ANZAC day. Had a good weekend?
07:56 cait                             hi rangi :) happy easter to you too :)
07:56 rangi                            hey SpaceLibrarian_home and cait
07:51 cait                             happy easter :)
07:51 SpaceLibrarian_home              hey cait! Happy Easter. :)
07:51 cait                             hi SpaceLibrarian_home :)
07:46 cait                             hi #koha
07:06 rangi                            evening
03:23 AmitG                            hei chris
03:23 AmitG                            heya ll
00:38 cait                             hi druthb