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nengard |
hi all - i'm wondering if someone knows of a commit that recently changed the order in which the item fields appear in cataloging - when adding an item the fields aren't in alpha order anymore ..... |
00:43 |
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eythian |
new koha packages uploaded, for anyone interested :) |
00:44 |
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rangi |
yay |
00:44 |
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rangi |
packages++ |
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jcamins_away |
usb_hubs_on_external_monitors++ |
02:08 |
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jcamins_away |
nengard: One moment, I recall a bug report. |
02:13 |
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nengard |
jcamins - rangi helped me find it already |
02:13 |
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nengard |
unless you mean another bug report |
02:13 |
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jcamins_away |
Oh, good. |
02:13 |
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jcamins_away |
Nope. |
02:13 |
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nengard |
:) |
02:13 |
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jcamins_away |
I wasn't finding it anyway. |
02:13 |
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nengard |
thanks though!! |
02:14 |
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rangi |
found the commit that broke the ordering |
02:14 |
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rangi |
now just have to fix it |
02:17 |
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nengard |
rangi what bug # was that - i can update the bug report if you want |
02:22 |
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rangi |
4263 |
02:25 |
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rangi |
adding the sort bit didnt work? |
02:36 |
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nengard |
bug updated |
02:44 |
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brendan_ |
evening |
02:46 |
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rangi |
heya brendan_ |
02:46 |
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brendan_ |
rangi - what's happening man :D |
02:47 |
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rangi |
reading good press releases about masscat :) |
02:47 |
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* mtj |
waves at brendan_ |
02:47 |
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brendan_ |
heya mtj - |
02:47 |
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mtj |
long time, no chat :p |
02:48 |
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brendan_ |
yeah been off for awhile |
02:48 |
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brendan_ |
I should be coming back a little bit slowly now though |
02:48 |
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mtj |
getting some sun, i hope |
02:49 |
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brendan_ |
a little |
02:49 |
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brendan_ |
:) |
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druthb |
sekjal++ # for bein' a hero. |
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kmkale |
namaskar #koha |
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druthb |
hi, kmkale. :) |
04:39 |
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kmkale |
hi druthb |
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snail |
mtj: if you're around and have questions about the wikipedia article, I'm around at the moment |
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06:17 |
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kmkale |
can anyone tell me how to initialize a git repo with a copied kohaclone directory? |
06:30 |
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kmkale |
never mind |
06:32 |
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rangi |
snail: do you want to add some of the other awards? |
06:33 |
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rangi |
http://computerworld.co.nz/new[…]&HighLight=2,koha |
06:35 |
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rangi |
it won the 3m award for innovation in 2000 too |
06:35 |
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rangi |
trying to find a 3rd party source for that |
06:37 |
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rangi |
http://lianza2009.wordpress.co[…]ion-in-libraries/ |
06:39 |
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rangi |
Another one in 2004 |
06:39 |
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rangi |
http://computerworld.co.nz/new[…]&HighLight=2,koha |
06:40 |
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rangi |
http://www.nzosa.org.nz/winners finalist in nzosa, and i got contributor of the year for koha work |
06:40 |
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rangi |
prolly not worth adding that one tho |
06:41 |
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rangi |
i think thats all of them :) |
06:44 |
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kmkale |
chris got a minute? |
06:47 |
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kmkale |
many of the templates in opac which deal with users data eg opac-account.tmpl, opac-passwd.tmpl etc do not have a id for the container div like opac-user.tmpl has an id userdetail. having these id's makes it easier to customize with css. If you think adding such id's is a good idea, I can make a bug and a patch. |
06:48 |
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rangi |
yes, that is a good idea |
06:48 |
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rangi |
everything should have an id |
06:48 |
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rangi |
i cant think of any reason not to give something one, even if we never use it, it cant hurt :) |
06:49 |
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kmkale |
cool |
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francharb |
hello #koha |
07:02 |
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rangi |
hi francharb |
07:02 |
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francharb |
hi rangi! |
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07:13 |
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snail |
kmkale: if you're in there giving things id's and there are some that are similar, you may want to group them into a class as well |
07:14 |
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snail |
heh, can ppl see http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net[…]6073_335845_n.jpg ? |
07:14 |
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magnuse |
ooh, cozy! |
07:19 |
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snail |
rangi: cheers, added those awards |
07:20 |
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rangi |
cool photo :) |
07:25 |
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snail |
Outside of a dog a book is a man's best friend, inside of a dog it's too dark to read --- Groucho Marx |
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kf |
good morning #koha |
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08:03 |
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rangi |
hi kf |
08:04 |
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kf |
hi rangi :) |
08:05 |
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kf |
pushing patches? :) |
08:05 |
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rangi |
always |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_5462' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e5cefec1ec661e51a> / Follow-up correction for Bug 5462 - Fix variable names for template::toolkit <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]da132dd06e171eff3> |
08:12 |
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paul_p |
hello world ! |
08:12 |
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paul_p |
working from home today. 2 boys ill |
08:12 |
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hudsonbot |
Starting build 347 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
08:12 |
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kf |
hope they get better soon |
08:13 |
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kf |
and good morning paul_ü |
08:13 |
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kf |
paul_p |
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08:13 |
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paul_p |
thx kf |
08:16 |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5616: Corrects an utf-8 encoding problem in cardviews <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b07be9c49b66e8ced> / Bug 5701: Distinction between authors/additional authors in staff normal view (MARC21... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]796ec80251f3390fb> / Bumping database version <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb |
08:37 |
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hudsonbot |
Project Koha_Master build #347: SUCCESS in 25 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/347/ |
08:37 |
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hudsonbot |
Owen Leonard: Follow-up correction for Bug 5462 - Fix variable names for template::toolkit |
08:38 |
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hudsonbot |
Starting build 348 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
08:46 |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 2742 : Fix typo <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e6a9cb7704a83cf40> |
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08:57 |
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magnuse |
hm, looks like the patch for bug 2742 does not include our beloved "nynorsk" |
08:57 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2742 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, NEW, Wrong language name in the preferences |
08:58 |
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kf |
morning magnus |
08:59 |
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magnuse |
hiya kf |
09:00 |
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09:00 |
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magnuse |
kia ora, jransom! |
09:00 |
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jransom |
magnus baby !! how are you :D |
09:01 |
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magnuse |
rangi: is it ok if i submit a patch for 2742 that just adds "nynorsk"? |
09:01 |
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magnuse |
jransom: fine thanks, lots of work to do and not enough time, though... ;-) |
09:02 |
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jransom |
tell me about it .. |
09:02 |
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hudsonbot |
Project Koha_Master build #348: SUCCESS in 24 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/348/ |
09:02 |
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hudsonbot |
* Colin Campbell: Bug 2742 Correct language names in install |
09:02 |
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hudsonbot |
* Chris Cormack: Bumping database version |
09:02 |
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hudsonbot |
* Marcel de Rooy: Bug 5701: Distinction between authors/additional authors in staff normal view (MARC21/XSLT) |
09:02 |
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hudsonbot |
* Fr?d?rick Capovilla: Bug 5616: Corrects an utf-8 encoding problem in cardviews |
09:03 |
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magnuse |
jransom: and you are crunching numbers? |
09:03 |
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hudsonbot |
Starting build 349 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
09:06 |
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* kf |
waves to jransom |
09:08 |
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rangi |
magnuse: yes, thats fine |
09:09 |
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magnuse |
rangi: cool. do i set the the status back to patch sent when it's sent? |
09:09 |
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hdl |
hi |
09:09 |
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wahanui |
hey, hdl |
09:10 |
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rangi |
yup, thats right |
09:10 |
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magnuse |
rangi: thanks, i'll give nynorsk a try, then |
09:13 |
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rangi |
cool |
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jransom |
hiya Katrin :D |
09:21 |
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jransom |
magnise: been crunching numbers all day. did a bit huge mistake |
09:21 |
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jransom |
just found it but need to explain it now .... |
09:29 |
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hudsonbot |
Project Koha_Master build #349: SUCCESS in 26 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/349/ |
09:29 |
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hudsonbot |
Chris Cormack: Bug 2742 : Fix typo |
09:30 |
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magnuse |
jransom: good thing you found it, then! |
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rangi |
hi indradg |
09:32 |
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indradg |
rangi, hi |
09:32 |
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indradg |
rangi, pm? |
09:32 |
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rangi |
yup |
09:35 |
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jransom |
Magnus: yep - but now I have to fess up :( |
09:36 |
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magnuse |
jransom: ah, you made the mistake earlier and discovered it now? |
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kmkale |
brb |
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jcamins |
Good morning, #koha |
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jwagner |
morning, jcamins |
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jcamins |
Hi there, jwagner and Nate_. |
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Nate_ |
morning! |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
13:18 |
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jcamins |
oleonard: Good morning. I was just thinking of you. Are you working on Bug 5704? |
13:18 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5704 enhancement, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, bib level item type icon should display on search results |
13:18 |
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oleonard |
No |
13:19 |
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jcamins |
Okay. |
13:19 |
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jcamins |
I think I'll take a stab at it. |
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oleonard |
what's your plan? |
13:20 |
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jcamins |
I'm still working on that. |
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oleonard |
:) |
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jcamins |
Does anyone know of a way to quickly delete a huge number of records from MySQL? |
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jwagner |
jcamins, is there something identifiably unique about them? |
13:30 |
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jwagner |
i.e., can you select where.... |
13:30 |
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jcamins |
jwagner: yeah. |
13:30 |
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jcamins |
Huh. That was weird. |
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jcamins |
DELETE FROM biblio WHERE biblionumber < 51200 only took 1:30 today. |
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jcamins |
Cool. If there's a better day to do it, though, I'd be grateful for any pointers. |
13:32 |
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jcamins |
I've been spending a lot of time deleting records of late. |
13:33 |
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jcamins |
Never mind. The DELETE didn't work right. That's why it was so fast. |
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jwagner |
I don't work at the MySQL level much, but if you can do a where you should be able to frame a select. |
13:34 |
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jwagner |
What do you get if you do a select with the biblionumber < 51200? |
13:34 |
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jcamins |
Oh, I got all the results I want to delete. |
13:35 |
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jcamins |
The problem is when there are no typos, deleting 50k records takes a loooooooooooong time. |
13:35 |
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kf |
not sure it will be faster |
13:35 |
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kf |
but I had problems with tables where I was not allowed to delete more than one line at a time (not koha) |
13:35 |
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kf |
and we did rewrite the output from a select to delete statements, using concat |
13:36 |
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jwagner |
kf, that sounds painful |
13:37 |
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jcamins |
Ah. I see why it was so fast. |
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jwagner |
jcamins, I assume you've checked that these records aren't linked to anything? |
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jcamins |
It took 1:30 to delete about 10k records. |
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jcamins |
jwagner: they are. I'd be fine with manually reconciling foreign key constraints, though. |
13:38 |
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jcamins |
I'm just going to blow away the database after I figure out what's going on anyway. |
13:38 |
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kf |
jwagner: only a little painful, once you have the statement it's pretty fast to do |
13:39 |
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jcamins |
Ooh, I'll try SET foreign_key_checks = 0; |
13:39 |
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jcamins |
Woohoo! 4.2 seconds. |
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jcamins |
What do y'all recommend for key_buffer on a VirtualBox VM? |
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oleonard |
bug 5709 |
13:57 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5709 enhancement, P5, ---, brice.sanchez, ASSIGNED, Adding the ability to translate HTML5 placeholder text in an input field |
13:57 |
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oleonard |
Should we be modifying the translator script to accommodate a feature that isn't in Koha? |
14:00 |
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kf |
oleonard: I think the question is if the translator script will be changed for template toolkit |
14:00 |
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kf |
and if we want to change it now before that happens? |
14:00 |
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kf |
and do we plan to use html5 in koha |
14:01 |
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oleonard |
I think we should plan to use html5 in koha eventually |
14:02 |
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oleonard |
We've got too many template-wide change bugs at the moment: bug 4048, bug 5481 |
14:02 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4048 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, CSS and JS libs must be outside of translated paths |
14:02 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5481 enhancement, P5, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Replace YUI JS libraries with Jquery UI |
14:02 |
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oleonard |
And T:T of course. |
14:03 |
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kf |
I think we should wait for the next version perhaps |
14:03 |
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kf |
when the change to template toolkit is done |
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druthb |
Good morning, from code4lib. :) |
14:06 |
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sekjal |
I'm interested in a second template directory with all the templates done in HTML5 and CSS3 |
14:06 |
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sekjal |
oh, and found another followup fix for bug 5462 |
14:06 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5462 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Fix variable names so we dont break template::toolkit |
14:07 |
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oleonard |
sekjal: why a second one? |
14:07 |
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sekjal |
the change to the templates breaks the patron messaging preferences form |
14:07 |
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oleonard |
sekjal: Sorry, I mean why a second template directory? |
14:08 |
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sekjal |
oleonard: ah |
14:08 |
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sekjal |
since not every browser supports HTML5 yet, we can keep koha's requirements lower by making HTML5 optional at first |
14:09 |
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sekjal |
also, we can develop it in parallel, and fall back to prog if things get weird |
14:15 |
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jcamins |
For those of you who have been waiting with bated breath to learn how to delete massive numbers of records, here is what I did: |
14:15 |
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jcamins |
SET autocommit=0; |
14:15 |
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jcamins |
Increased innodb_buffer_pool_size as much as possible. |
14:15 |
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jcamins |
Ran the delete. |
14:15 |
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jcamins |
(actually, I increased innodb_buffer_pool_size first) |
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jcamins |
It was slow, but not like before. |
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jcamins |
I left foreign_key_checks alone, since that makes the deletion propagate. |
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* druthb |
returns ffrom break. |
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jcamins |
Why would Zebra not work only with biblios? |
15:08 |
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jcamins |
Authorities are searching fine, but biblios are not. |
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kf |
have you reindexed with a and b? |
15:09 |
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jcamins |
Yup. |
15:10 |
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sekjal |
jcamins: corrupted biblio record |
15:10 |
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sekjal |
? |
15:10 |
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jcamins |
Probably. |
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wahanui |
hmmm... probably is already fixed in 3.2.x and 3.4 |
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jcamins |
Apparently the very first record, in fact. |
15:11 |
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oleonard |
wahanui: forget probably |
15:11 |
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wahanui |
oleonard: I forgot probably |
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jcamins |
You'd think there would be some sort of error, though. |
15:13 |
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jcamins |
Oh, never mind. |
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jcamins |
It's suppress lost biblios. |
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jcamins |
OpacSuppression, rather. |
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jwagner |
jcamins, do you mean the record wasn't searching because it was suppressed, or it was failing to index/corrupting because it was suppressed? |
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jcamins |
jwagner: no results were coming up because OpacSuppression was turned on. |
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jcamins |
(and the suppress index wasn't set up) |
15:17 |
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kf |
kmkale++ |
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kf |
kmkale: I was customizing one of these pages with jquery yesterday and was missing a unique id :) |
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oleonard |
kf: Are you signing off on that patch? |
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* oleonard |
had just started to review it |
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druthb |
@wunder Bloomington, IN. |
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huginn |
druthb: The current temperature in Bloomington, Indiana is -7.7�C (10:25 AM EST on February 08, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: -12.0�C. Windchill: -12.0�C. Pressure: 30.25 in 1024.3 hPa (Rising). |
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* druthb |
shivers a little. |
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kf |
oleonard: i don't have time now - I could try tonight |
15:23 |
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oleonard |
No, I'll just keep going |
15:23 |
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kf |
ok, thx |
15:23 |
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oleonard |
I just wanted to make sure we weren't both working on it |
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kf |
no, shoudl work on a zillion other things |
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@wunder bodo, norway |
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magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -1.0�C (4:20 PM CET on February 08, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Windchill: -8.0�C. Pressure: 29.18 in 988 hPa (Rising). |
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@wunder 45701 |
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oleonard: The current temperature in Athens, Ohio is -3.0�C (10:15 AM EST on February 08, 2011). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: -6.0�C. Windchill: -8.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Rising). |
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nengard |
@wunder seattle, wa |
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nengard: The current temperature in Herrera Environmental Consultants, Seattle, Washington is 5.1�C (7:49 AM PST on February 08, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 30.26 in 1024.6 hPa (Steady). |
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nengard |
@wunder 19030 |
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nengard: The current temperature in CWOP # AR939, Penndel, Pennsylvania is 2.2�C (10:49 AM EST on February 08, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: -4.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006.0 hPa (Steady). Wind Advisory in effect until 8 PM EST this evening... |
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oleonard |
Are you in Seattle nengard ? |
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nengard |
well - i guess it's good i'm in seattle :) |
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@wunder 11375 |
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jcamins: The current temperature in Long Island City, Queens, New York is 6.4�C (10:45 AM EST on February 08, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017.2 hPa (Rising). |
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nengard |
yep oleonard |
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nengard |
training yet another new koha library :) |
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* oleonard |
should find an excuse to visit Seattle someday |
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nengard |
my second visit |
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nengard |
last time was for SLA |
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@wunder 64507 |
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rhcl: The current temperature in St Joseph, Missouri is -16.7�C (9:56 AM CST on February 08, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: -24.0�C. Windchill: -17.0�C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030.0 hPa (Falling). Wind Chill Advisory in effect until noon CST today... |
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rhcl |
-16.7 Do I win? |
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gmcharlt |
@quote random |
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huginn |
gmcharlt: Quote #112: "gmcharlt: only superlibrarians can be trusted with capes" (added by wizzyrea at 09:17 PM, December 15, 2010) |
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oleonard |
rhcl: A Pyrrhic victory though it is |
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gmcharlt |
@wunder 99517 |
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gmcharlt: The current temperature in Earthquake Park, Anchorage, Alaska is -5.7�C (6:59 AM AKST on February 08, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 30.16 in 1021.2 hPa (Falling). Strong wind through late tonight along Turnagain Arm and higher elevations... |
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gmcharlt |
very Pyrrhic |
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gmcharlt |
does anybody know offhand whether Switzerland is UNIMARC or MARC21 territory? |
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* gmcharlt |
suddenly had an imagine of a weird, cataloger-centric game of Risk |
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jcamins |
gmcharlt: that's a really funny image. But I have no idea. |
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gmcharlt |
hmm, looks like MARC21 if the national library's catalog is any indication |
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hdl |
gmcharlt: we had UNIMARC libraries there |
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hdl |
But there are some MARC21 also |
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gmcharlt |
mxiture, then |
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gathers armies in the other blue countries and prepares to attack Switzerland |
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hdl |
gmcharlt: Do you know what data SimpleServer should send back when being asked MARC records ? It seems that sending MARC::Record->as_usmarc is being interpreted as BAD MARC |
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wizzyrea |
@wunder lawrence ks |
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wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is -15.1�C (10:25 AM CST on February 08, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: -20.0�C. Windchill: -22.0�C. Pressure: 30.59 in 1035.8 hPa (Steady). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 6 am CST Wednesday... |
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wizzyrea |
so close. |
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gmcharlt |
hdl: yep, it should be expecting regular ISO |
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gmcharlt |
though you could try MARCXML |
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hdl |
marcxml is being sent ok |
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hdl |
Our SimpleServer for Solr is working fine with marcxml |
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hdl |
But is rasing an error when answering MARC |
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hdl |
trying to know what we are supposed to send |
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oleonard |
Yes, it's true: I created a bug report and sent a patch for a bug involving one space. |
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jcamins |
oleonard++ # for attention to detail |
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oleonard |
I hope it finds its way into Koha's top-ten list of single-character bug fixes |
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cait |
owen++ |
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cait |
oleonard++ even |
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cait |
this missing space was annoying :) |
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oleonard: my first patch removed one character... ;-) |
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liw |
oleonard, I have a friend who's contribution to the Linux kernel is -1 lines :) he found a bug whose fix was to remove a line |
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rangi |
Nice :) |
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* druthb |
waves to rangi |
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rangi |
Heya how's the conf going? |
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druthb |
so far, so good. |
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rangi |
Cool |
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rangi |
Ahh nickserv, gotta love it |
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fcapo |
Hello, I have some questions on Zebra reindexation : is anybody working on a replacement for zebraqueue right now? |
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fcapo |
Our clients need to have live reindexation of records, so right now we are using zebraqueue with a restart every night because of its memory leaks :/ |
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jcamins |
fcapo: I think ebegin was doing some work on that. |
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ebegin |
I had a look at it, but I was pulled by something else and didn't have time to look at it since. |
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ebegin |
but it still in my todo list :) |
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fcapo |
ok, good :) |
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fcapo |
Today, I had to modify zebraqueue so it would work like rebuild_zebra. I just copied the fix_leader, fix_biblio_ids, fix_authority_id and fix_unimarc_100 subroutines from rebuild_zebra and used them in zebraqueue. |
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fcapo |
I'm just wondering what all these fix subroutines are doing :/ |
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ebegin |
They are fixing things ;) |
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rangi |
Fcapo |
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mtj |
fcapo: i have a similar hack for zebq |
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rangi |
You are better off writing some bash |
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rangi |
To run rebuild_zebra.pl |
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rangi |
In a loop |
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mtj |
ie: a bash wrapper script that calls zebq.pl, every minute |
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mtj |
this allows me to start/start the re-indexing easily, without a cron edit |
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rangi |
Well more that calls it whenever it finishes,every min you will get more than one running |
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fcapo |
Well, my modifications to zebraqueue are already done and working. |
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rangi |
Yes but it still leaks |
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rangi |
That's why it shouldn't be used |
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fcapo |
yea :/ that's why we do a restart every night |
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mtj |
a restart every hour even, and it prolly works ok too |
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fcapo |
yea, If I get memory problem, I'll change the restart interval |
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mtj |
(but i should not really recommend that, to folks) |
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rangi |
Naw |
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rangi |
It still spazzes out |
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rangi |
Every so often |
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rangi |
I wrote it and it sux |
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mtj |
but yeah, what we really need is a new re-index method thats a hybrid of the two |
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rangi |
Don't use it |
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rangi |
Is my advice |
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rangi |
Bbiab |
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mtj |
oops, i take that back!….. |
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fcapo |
so... no perfect way to do live reindexation yet? :( |
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mtj |
i have a wrapper script that calls rebuild-zeb.pl every X minutes |
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mtj |
rather than calling rebuild_zeb.pl via cron |
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mtj |
no, its been on my to do list for a while too! |
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ebegin |
But having to wait X minute for reindexation is quite long for the users. |
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pastebot0 |
"mtj" at 203.97.99.222 pasted "zeb_wrapper.pl" (55 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/141 |
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fcapo |
Well, right now my modified zebraqueue seems to be working correctly, only leaking memory when a lot of modifications are made :/ |
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fcapo |
Thanks for the feedbacks, I'll be careful with it. |
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ebegin |
It's ok for bib appearing in the catalogue, but when they are creating a new bib and want to add a newly created authority, they have to wait for X minutes before being able to search it... |
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mtj |
fcapo: check out my prev. paste.. |
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mtj |
as chris.c said, its a looping bash wrapper for rebuild_zeb.pl, rather than a cron |
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fcapo |
mtj: looking at it. I'll test it |
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mtj |
lol, its actually a *perl* wrapper, not bash ;) |
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fcapo |
yea :P |
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mtj |
but you get the picture... |
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mtj |
sleep for a minute, |
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mtj |
is a current rebuild happening?, no... |
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mtj |
are there any outstanding bibs to index, yes... |
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rangi |
back |
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mtj |
then, start rebulild_zeb.pl.. |
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fcapo |
Well, normal cronjobs have a 1 minute limit, so using that script with a 60 seconds interval isn't really different, no? |
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rangi |
fcapo: i use one that just starts another one as soon as one finishes, well 5 second wait |
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rangi |
you can adjust the time |
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ebegin |
fcapo, you could set it at 10 sec if you want to. If there is nothing to do, this script just access the db once |
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mtj |
no different really , but i/admins can start/stop the job easily |
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fcapo |
just wondering if lowering the interval so it's almost "live" would slow down the server :/ |
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rangi |
if you did it nicely, with a fork, from within perl, then no, no more than the daemon does |
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fcapo |
interesting |
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mtj |
it should *not* slow the server, too badly |
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mtj |
its just a "select * limit 1" lookup to zebra_queue table... |
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mtj |
ive you clean out the zeb_que table every few days, that select is pretty quick |
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mtj |
thats the theory , anyway... :) |
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brendan_ |
mtj I live the name of your computer ( bilbo ) :) |
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brendan_ |
heh s/live/love |
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mtj |
twas a katipo name, i think? |
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fcapo |
I was thinking about the time it takes to start new instances of perl, but then I saw the "Select limit 1" ... nice |
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rangi |
nope katipo is all spiders |
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mtj |
katipo named the box for that client? |
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mtj |
ah, me remembers.... |
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jcamins |
Just for the record, if you set autocommit=0, make sure you run `COMMIT;` after the queries you want to stick. |
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mtj |
fcapo: so my goofy zeb_wrapper.pl script could be increased to loop every 5 /10 seconds |
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mtj |
… which would be close to real-time indexing, without the zeb_daemon.pl memory bloat problem |
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mtj |
ive been too busy/embarassed to submit it to kc.org, but its been running fine on a prod/slave combo for 2 years :) |
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rangi |
everyone say hi to space_librarian |
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jcamins |
Hello, space_librarian. |
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rangi |
today is her 3rd day at catalyst |
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space_librarian |
hello space_librarian. :) |
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ibeardslee |
and she has a computer already! |
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rangi |
heh |
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space_librarian |
and dual monitors. I'm so impressed! |
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mtj |
space_librarian: grateings from planet earth |
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druthb |
hi, space_librarian! :D |
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space_librarian |
Hey all. :) |
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sekjal |
space_librarian: we're watching a presentation on the Astronomical Data System here at Code4Lib |
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* mtj |
always views the matrix with dual monitors, (in hex) |
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sekjal |
druthb and I, that is |
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space_librarian |
that sounds pretty awesome. |
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space_librarian |
And I wonder if I can still find that old school (original) matrix screensaver somewhere... |
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rangi |
space_librarian: this is the main koha channel, its all logged, and its where we have our community meetings etc |
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ibeardslee |
space_librarian: System >> Preferences >> Screensaver >> MatrixView |
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rangi |
http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/today |
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rangi |
http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Meetings |
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space_librarian |
great. I will take notes and be attentive. And go look for that screensaver. |
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rangi |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
mtj: !!!!! Give! |
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wizzyrea |
ok for real this time |
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rangi |
sekja, wizzyrea and druthb are in the us, mtj is somewhere near wellington, ibeardslee is down on level 2 :) |
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wizzyrea |
i'm out, peace :P |
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rangi |
cya wizzyrea |
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* jcamins |
is in the US, too. |
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rangi |
ah yep, and jcamins |
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space_librarian |
ciao wizzyrea, nice to meet you. |
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rangi |
jcamins, sekjal, druthb, brendan_, Nate_ and nengard are all from bywater |
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rangi |
(a koha support company) |
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rangi |
wizzyrea is from NEKLS http://www.nekls.org/ |
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druthb |
:D |
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brendan_ |
:D |
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jcamins |
gmcharlt++ # for including useful information when you run link_bibs_to_authorities.pl with -v |
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jcamins |
useless_verbose_logging-- |
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jcamins |
@karma useless_verbose_logging |
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huginn |
jcamins: Karma for "useless_verbose_logging" has been increased 0 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of -1. |
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jcamins |
That's it? |
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jcamins |
useless_verbose_logging-- |
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oleonard |
Hello from Ohio, space_librarian |
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jwagner |
And hello from Maryland |
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sekjal |
useless_verbose_logging-- |
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sekjal |
I'll chip in on that :) |
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space_librarian |
you know that useless verbosity is a mainstay of bibs and authorities in library cataloguing, right? Just checking... :) |
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jcamins |
space_librarian: no, my objection is when -v gives you all the information in the world except what you need. |
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jcamins |
For example, which record has killed the indexing process. |
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space_librarian |
oh yes. I know. That's the irony of it all. And you can never get a straight answer either. |
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slef |
hi all... been a pointlessly busy day here |
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sekjal |
sorry to hear that, slef |
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sekjal |
nice when busy days are pointy |
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slef |
lots of admin done, but it's just not the same |
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jcamins |
Here's a thought experiment. What if link_bibs_to_authorities committed changes to 1000 records at a time? |
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jcamins |
Would that make it any faster? |
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rangi |
how about making a switch |
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rangi |
where you can specify how many to commit after |
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jcamins |
rangi: yeah, that's what I would do if I were going to implement the feature. |
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jcamins |
The purpose of the thought experiment was to determine whether it's something worth doing. |
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rangi |
well, you'd probably have to try it and see |
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jcamins |
Yeah, that's what I figured. |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5718 : fix permission of moveitem = edit_items needed <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1238a276cc6addbaf> |
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fcapo |
mtj : Thank you for sharing your zeb_wrapper.pl script. It's working great! |
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hdl |
hi |
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wahanui |
hola, hdl |
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rangi |
hdl: another biblibre patch merged ! :-) |
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hdl |
nice. |
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rangi |
i hope to finish 5574 today |
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rangi |
https://library.plantandfood.co.nz/ <-- new koha site live |
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hdl |
fcapo: where is this zeb_wrapper script ? |
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oleonard |
rangi: Nice! |
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mtj |
hdl http://paste.koha-community.org/141 |
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rhcl |
chris: just out of idle curiosity, why https vs http? |
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mtj |
ok, gotta scoot... |
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rangi |
it connects to their active directory |
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rangi |
i dont want passwords floating around in plain text |
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mtj |
ooh, new books! ;) |
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chris_n |
rangi: nice looking site |
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rhcl |
ic login page |
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mtj |
nice css skinning rangi |
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oleonard |
rangi: Is that designed by Catalyst? |
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rangi |
they did most of it |
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rangi |
we just helped them with the trickier bits of css |
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rangi |
that site is your definitive resource for kiwifruit btw :) |
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hdl |
in fact most of Koha sites should be in https |
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hdl |
nice looking |
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hdl |
mtj: good script, could be part of a patch |
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hdl |
I think paul sent his rebuild_zebra_sliced.pl script |
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sijobl |
woo, plant and food |
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rhcl |
there seems to be a dead link on the page -- E Journals and Books |
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sijobl |
rangi: is stephen northover still the librarian? |
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rhcl |
re: plantand food |
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* sijobl |
guesses not, as it as 20 years ago when I worked there :-) |
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rhcl |
well, I guess all the left margin links are dead--site not live yet I guess? |
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rangi |
sijobl: hmm nope, all women |
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rangi |
you were at hort research eh? |
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slef |
rangi: doesn't absol... hmm |
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sijobl |
yup, and the DSIR before that |
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sijobl |
the last six months of that august institution :-) |
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rangi |
right, plant and food were an interesting one, cos it was merging 2 catalogues, crop and food and hortresearch |
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sijobl |
we were so cool, we made our own routers |
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sijobl |
from scratch |
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rangi |
both used different systems |
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rangi |
hehe cool |
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sijobl |
eventually, the router division was commercialised and became allied telesyn |
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rangi |
rhcl: i think that link only works inside their vpn |
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sijobl |
I'm suprised it's taken that long - weren't crop and hort merged years ago? |
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rangi |
yes, yes they were ;) |
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sijobl |
ohh, no, it was only the end of 2009 |
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rangi |
well a year ago :) |
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sijobl |
sorry, end of 2008 |
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sijobl |
so two years to merge library systems |
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sijobl |
you don't want to rush these things :-) |
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rangi |
we only started in sept |
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rangi |
:) |
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sijobl |
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/scie[…]objectid=10533889 |
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rangi |
their building is pretty neat |
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rangi |
its one of those ones they could never build these days |
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rangi |
build old science block |
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sijobl |
whereabouts? |
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rangi |
s/build/big/ |
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rangi |
mt edenish |
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sijobl |
ohh, yes |
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rangi |
you can see eden park from it anyway |
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sijobl |
MARC |
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rangi |
has a bunch of land around it too still |
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sijobl |
it is a bit mad, in the high rise out in the burbs sense |
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rangi |
yeah |
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sijobl |
mount albert research centre |
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rangi |
thats it |
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Project Koha_Master build #350: SUCCESS in 24 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/350/ |
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Paul Poulain: Bug 5718 : fix permission of moveitem = edit_items needed |
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oleonard |
Ciao #koha |
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jcamins |
I seem to recall there being a document explaining Koha version numbers. Does anyone know where that document might be? |
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rangi |
theres more than one |
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rangi |
one is on the site whose name i will not utter |
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* druthb |
announces a code4lib Koha hackfest tonight, in her hotel room. :) |
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rangi |
http://pakbill.net/koha/ |
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* druthb |
must now hustle to get her room tidied up a bit... |
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rangi |
is scrapped from that site |
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rangi |
With Koha 3, version numbering has been changed to use a method similar to Perl's: |
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rangi |
major.minor[.revision[.build]] |
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rangi |
* major: one digit |
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rangi |
* minor: two-digit |
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rangi |
* revision: two-digit |
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rangi |
* build: three-digit |
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jcamins |
Hm. Thanks. |
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jcamins |
How do you find out where two branches diverged? |
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rangi |
2 branches in git? |
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jcamins |
Right. |
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rangi |
git merge-base |
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rangi |
rorohiko:[git/new/enh/bug_5720-]:~/git/catalyst-koha% git merge-base new/enh/bug_5720 kc/master |
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rangi |
d251585f717203b3abc27ab1238a276cc6addbaf |
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rangi |
git freaking rules |
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jcamins |
That's really cool. |
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jcamins |
Okay, one last question... is it possible to get a log going all the way back to a specific commit? |
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liw |
git log COMMITID1 HEAD # iirc |
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jcamins |
Oh, I figured it out. |
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jcamins |
Yeah, I had the two arguments backwards. |
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sekjal |
japanese open source ILS: Enju |
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sekjal |
github.com/nabeta/next-l |
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jcamins |
Good night, #koha |
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rangi |
hi LBA |
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howdy rangi |
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