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ronald |
is Mason around? |
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havent seen him today ronald |
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mtj |
ronald: heya i'm about, now... |
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mtj |
whats up? |
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mtj |
doing tax stuff this arvo… :/ |
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kia ora |
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hey rangi, better bribe me mum, bro |
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she says no yeah buddy waiata on the 2pt conversion... |
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ooof |
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game over, mate. |
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Namaskar #koha |
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mtj |
heya Koustubha |
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hi mtj |
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morning all |
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francharb |
hello alll |
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rangi |
hi francharb |
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* mtj |
has his tax stuff all done :) |
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kf |
good morning #koha |
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kf |
morning paul_p |
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paul_p |
morning kf |
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paul_p |
breaking news kf :we organise a "European debugguing sprint week" in April, here in Marseille, for 3.4, from april 4th to 8th. Public announcement coming soon, you can already note this week on you agenda ;-) |
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Starting build 344 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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rangi |
cool |
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rangi |
speaking of debugging |
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rangi |
http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]4&hide_resolved=1 |
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rangi |
quite a few of these have been merged into master now, if you could test and mark resolved that would be great |
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paul_p |
hi rangi |
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paul_p |
mmm... rangi, how do you get this showdependancytree (can't find the link on show_bug.cgi?id=5574) |
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paul_p |
ok, link found |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'new/bug_5277' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]64c319a16e3846e8c> |
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kf |
paul_p: cool :) |
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rangi |
im doing that with all your branches |
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rangi |
building up a dependency tree and bugs for each feature/bug |
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paul_p |
splitting our split in smaller splits, I understand ;-) |
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rangi |
well splitting and combining |
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rangi |
eg |
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rangi |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…]04dfbac882744c3df |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5699: don't discard $3 when building a record (UNIMARC specific) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]fce0a7b8222b6d5fd> |
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hudsonbot |
Project Koha_Master build #344: SUCCESS in 24 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/344/ |
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hudsonbot |
Mason James: (bug 5277) (HEAD) cant search by barcode in OPAC search-page |
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hudsonbot |
Starting build 345 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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kf |
!hudsonbot botsnack cookie |
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hudsonbot |
kf did you mean me? Unknown command 'bot' |
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hudsonbot |
Use !hudsonhelp to get help! |
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kf |
!hudson botsnack cookie |
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hudsonbot |
kf: great! yum yum. I just love cookie! |
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magnuse |
kia ora, #koha |
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snail |
mÅrena, magnuse |
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* magnuse |
googles |
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magnuse |
"good morning"? |
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kf |
god morgen magnus :) |
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snail |
magnuse: indeed, transliteration of 'morning' |
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magnuse |
cool! |
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magnuse |
guten morgen, kf |
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hudsonbot |
Project Koha_Master build #345: SUCCESS in 24 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/345/ |
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hudsonbot |
Paul Poulain: Bug 5699: don't discard $3 when building a record (UNIMARC specific) |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5700: MT4004 : additem.pl Some Status were not defaulted to the correct value... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e69c4d05056618124> |
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hudsonbot |
Starting build 346 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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druthb |
happy Monday, #koha. :) |
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kf |
happy monday?? |
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kf |
hi druthb :) |
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druthb |
hehehe... |
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mtj |
heyazz, very happy monday for me |
| 09:36 |
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kf |
because it's almost over? ;) |
| 09:37 |
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mtj |
nah, i've sorted/paid all my tax stuff for the last 2 years |
| 09:38 |
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mtj |
$stress_level— |
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druthb |
yay! |
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mtj |
… and about to splurge on some linode VMs |
| 09:39 |
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druthb |
I got a bunch of organizing done over the weekend, too, and tossed out piles of scribbly paper notes, so my $stress_level--, too. |
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kf |
hmpf. |
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* mtj |
hive-fives druthb |
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druthb |
It's not *that* big a thing, but it sure feels good, don't it? |
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mtj |
tax-returns or scribbly-paper tossing? |
| 09:41 |
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mtj |
kidding ;) |
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kmkale |
yo druthb yahhy monday is that thingi like oxymoron or some such |
| 09:42 |
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kmkale |
s/yahhy/happy/ |
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druthb |
for some people, certainly, kmkale. For me, not so much; They're sometimes stressful and busy, but I try really hard to be the happiest person I know. (And that's an internal decision, not a reaction to externalities.) |
| 09:43 |
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mtj |
oooh, VM hosting performance (with graphs) |
| 09:43 |
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rangi |
linode rules |
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kmkale |
:) |
| 09:43 |
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mtj |
http://journal.uggedal.com/vps[…]rmance-comparison |
| 09:43 |
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rangi |
rocksolid |
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druthb |
I'm a big fan of linode; I've used 'em for a number of small projects here and there. |
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mtj |
yeah, im going that way chris |
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mtj |
… and the best bang-for-buck |
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mtj |
rangi: 32 or 64 bit kernel, on linode? |
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mtj |
any prefs? |
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rangi |
i run 64 |
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druthb |
I've done some dev works, approvals and such, on nearlyfreespeech.net....for web stuff, it's decent. You can't run herkin big services there, but for little db-based apps, wordpress, CMS stuff, it's nice, because you pay as you go for what you use. Not a full vm, but not a cpanel host, either, kinda in between. |
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mtj |
ok, i read somewhere 32-bit might be more lean, for a small memory config? |
| 09:48 |
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mtj |
i wanna try running a small demo koha, on a linode |
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* magnuse |
has been quite happy with slicehost so far, but should take another look at those stats... |
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mtj |
linode is better/cheaper than slicehost |
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magnuse |
yeah, looks like it |
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mtj |
and more RAM |
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rangi |
im running hudson, bugzilla, the pastebot and infobot, as well as downloads.koha-community |
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rangi |
on my small linode |
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druthb |
We've been using Rackspace, and there have been some uptime issues. I am not fond of their fixed-size systems...if you need a huge disk, you have to buy huge cpu and memory to go with. my loader server doesn't need a huge CPU, just lots and lots of workbench area. |
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Project Koha_Master build #346: SUCCESS in 23 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/346/ |
| 09:51 |
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hudsonbot |
Paul Poulain: Bug 5700: MT4004 : additem.pl Some Status were not defaulted to the correct value Status 0 was lost because test was done on value and not on the fact that a value was defined or not. when value is 0 then it was not used as default value for |
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mtj |
i worked on a client's rackspace box, and it was sooo slow, i got ssh timeouts constantly |
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* magnuse |
never had trouble with that on slicehost |
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druthb |
I've not had that problem with ours, but we've had some panicky times when their servers act up and have to be rebooted. |
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mtj |
its out-of-the-box config was borked too |
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mtj |
its = rackspace |
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kmkale |
i am using rackspace. and frankly i am happy with it. |
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mtj |
this rackspace was running landscape, which was causing a 3 minute hang after ssh login :/ |
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mtj |
http://www.canonical.com/enter[…]vantage/landscape |
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mtj |
anyhoo, thats the only experience ive had with RS... |
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* magnuse |
looks for a way to see the results of the kohacon vote, but can't find it |
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rangi |
has it closed? |
| 09:58 |
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mtj |
surely not |
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rangi |
nope 17th |
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magnuse |
i just wanted to see the current standing - but guess that won't be available before it has closed |
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* kmkale |
would like a peek at current standings too ;) |
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* mtj |
mods the koha wiki page... |
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mtj |
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/inde[…]5&oldid=412006237 |
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kmkale |
both branches have a very large active team??? |
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mtj |
lol, yeah that stuff should go |
| 10:16 |
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mtj |
someones probably sneaked the harley details in as relevant, i think… |
| 10:17 |
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mtj |
i want to make an april fools joke release of Koha , called 'Furby' |
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kmkale |
brb |
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mtj |
KohaAloha, NZ releases what it considers to be a stable release of Koha, called 'Furby'… |
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* druthb |
is not gonna release a fork named after her pet. "Captain Midnight" is a screwy name for a release. :) |
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* magnuse |
would have to relase 3 forks, Rosa, Benoni and Lina... nah, sounds like too much work ;-) |
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druthb |
keeping up with more than one fork at a time is *hard work*. |
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mtj |
… we've cherry-picked 50 exciting Koha features on a 3.0.1 codebase, and tested them on *actual* furbies! |
| 10:23 |
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mtj |
amen druthb |
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mtj |
thats why we all have to help each other |
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magnuse |
amen mtj |
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kf |
poor furbies |
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kf |
@later tell jwagner tested bug 5688 - good catch, I never noticed the column! |
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huginn |
kf: The operation succeeded. |
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kmkale |
in opac where is the link to take a user to opac-user.pl? |
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kf |
you mean account? |
| 10:57 |
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kf |
ah sorry, have to go, lunch |
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kmkale |
yes the my summary page |
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kf |
@later tell kmkale opac-user.pl: when you are logged in on top of the page: 'Welcome....' |
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kf: The operation succeeded. |
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jcamins_away |
Good morning, #koha |
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Nate_ |
morning jcamins! |
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jwagner |
Morning all |
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jcamins |
Woohoo! My paper on the role of women in establishing the Russian canon was accepted! |
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Nate_ |
congrats!! |
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Nate_ |
morning! jwagner |
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jwagner |
morning, Nate_ and congrats jcamins |
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kf |
jcamins: congrats :) |
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ebegin |
hello #koha! |
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kf |
hi ebegin |
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* chris_n |
welcomes ebegin |
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ebegin |
:) |
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ebegin |
I do have an mismatch for a tag somewhere in one of my .tmpl file. Is there an easy way to validate a .tmpl file ? |
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mtj |
ebegin: nope, use diff |
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mtj |
or git-diff, the only method i use |
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ebegin |
Hmmm, it won't be easy, I reindented most of the file. |
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jcamins |
ebegin: there's some way to have diff ignore whitespace. |
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ebegin |
got it :) it was not that long after all :) |
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mtj |
reindent *after* the mod works |
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ebegin |
I added an extra space before the > by mistake in a <!-- /TMPL_LOOP --> |
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* mtj |
speaks with much personal experience on the issue |
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ebegin |
is it just me or the indentation of the .tmpl files could be improved? :) |
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oleonard |
It could certainly be better standardized |
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oleonard |
Not everyone agrees on indentation style, so "improved" is a problematic term |
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ebegin |
oleonard, i wanted to be polite. :) you could replace could be improved by sucks :) |
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oleonard |
Either term has little meaning if you don't offer a suggested standard to apply |
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kf |
perhaps we can decide on that after the switch to template toolkit? |
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oleonard |
I'm not sure we'd manage to keep everyone on the same standard without some kind of Tidy script |
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pastebot0 |
"ebegin" at 24.202.39.26 pasted "Indentation proposal for .tmpl file" (30 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/140 |
| 13:26 |
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ebegin |
that would be a first proposal |
| 13:26 |
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ebegin |
http://paste.koha-community.org/140 |
| 13:27 |
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ebegin |
basically, group what reprensents grouping, both in HTML::Template (<!-- TMPL_IF -->, <!-- TMPL_LOOP -->, ...) and HTML tags (<div>, <table>, <ul>, ...) |
| 13:27 |
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mtj |
i think 2-char spacing might be better than 4 |
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ebegin |
mtj, i used 4 chars in the example, but I prefer using tab instead. If you want your tab to be 1, 2, 4 or 10 characters is up to you and is usually a setting in your editor |
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ebegin |
I used 4 chars in the example because I was not able to use tab in the form |
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mtj |
no tabs, set your tab key to input spaces ;) |
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* mtj |
dons tinfoil pants… |
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ebegin |
that is always an eternal debate,. |
| 13:32 |
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ebegin |
but if you use spaces, that brings another questions. how many... 2, 4, 6, 8 ? |
| 13:32 |
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mtj |
some template files in koha get pushed waaay right, with 4-char indenting |
| 13:33 |
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ebegin |
That's why with a tab, you can set it to whatever you want ;) |
| 13:33 |
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mtj |
as many as it says in the kc.org style guide, silly |
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oleonard |
Doesn't say: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Coding_Guidelines |
| 13:34 |
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kf |
I think 4 space indentation? |
| 13:34 |
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kf |
* Indentation: 4 spaces [+++] or tabs [] or 2 spaces [] or don't care but give us perltidy settings [+] |
| 13:34 |
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mtj |
lol, so add it... |
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* jcamins |
doesn't care, for what it's worth. |
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mtj |
nah, its a serious thing to agree on |
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ebegin |
jcamins, I think that it worth it actually. |
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mtj |
and every once/while someone brings it up |
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mtj |
4-char is prolly what folks will decide upon |
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kf |
ebegin: I think we will need a suggestion for template toolkit - perhaps a tidy up could be done with the conversion scripts? |
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oleonard |
kf++ |
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ebegin |
jcamins, sorry, I agree that the spaces vs tab doesn't worth it... but a standard on indentation (when changing line, for exemple) worth it. |
| 13:38 |
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mtj |
i *still* haven't found an html tidy/beautifiler that handles <!— TMPL —> blocks |
| 13:38 |
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jcamins |
Yes, that's what I mean. |
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ebegin |
I can believe that we have to look at .tmpl file for 15 or 30 minutes to know where that <!-- /TMPL_IF --> has to go |
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jcamins |
mtj: probably because they're an offense against nature. |
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kf |
ebegin: I hope the new syntax will make it a little easier |
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mtj |
there was a WIP for html-tidy to handle html::template, a few years ago, i haven't looks at it since |
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ebegin |
kf, I hope too |
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oleonard |
mtj: It's a little late to be working on that again |
| 13:41 |
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mtj |
ha, sure.. just saying.. |
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oleonard |
ebegin: One problem with <!-- /TMPL_IF -->placement is that even an editor with good code folding is going to have trouble handling both HTML and TMPL at the same time |
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ebegin |
oleonard, this is why we are there, us, poor human ;) |
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ebegin |
s/human/humans |
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ebegin |
why count onan automated task when we can do it correctly while writing it... |
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oleonard |
At the moment, because people have many patches pending which haven't been written according to any standard |
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ebegin |
oleonard, I agree. That whu there will be a transition. |
| 13:51 |
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ebegin |
If we say that from now on, every time we modify a file we have to align them, chances are that most files will be standardized. |
| 13:52 |
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ebegin |
or we can postpone that forever. |
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oleonard |
I think kf's idea of building this into the T:T transition is a good one, although I have no idea if it is feasible |
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ebegin |
We will always have pending patches |
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oleonard |
But after the T:T transition *everyone* will be required to submit patches in a new format. Good time to begin a new standard. |
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ebegin |
oleonard++ |
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kf |
we should ask chris about ti |
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kf |
or rangi |
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oleonard |
Of course |
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kf |
but I would like it |
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kf |
would make reading the templates easier I think |
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oleonard |
I think the proof will be seeing how it handles a complex page like moremember.tmpl or circulation.tmpl |
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oleonard |
Hi nfred |
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kf |
mormember template needs a clean up |
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kf |
some things there are bad for translation too |
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kf |
like cutting sentences into smaller parts with if clauses - hard to translate such things |
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kf |
tried to change them, but always broke something until I gave up |
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kf |
too many ifs |
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nfred |
Hi oleonard, glad to be here. Been away for months! |
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oleonard |
kf: Feel free to file a bug if you'd like me to take a look. I don't always recognize that kind of problem |
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kf |
thx for the offer owen :) |
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oleonard |
nfred: Do we know you by another nick from the old channel? |
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nfred |
Yes, I'm being inconsistent! I was nelsonf I think - Nelson Fredsell Atlanta, with installation in Cape Town, South Africa |
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oleonard |
nfred: Welcome back. We're still getting used to some new nicks around here :) |
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nfred |
I thought nfred would be easier for folks to type. I've been working a plan for some time and move at snails pace... |
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* oleonard |
's irc client has tab completion so it doesn't matter how long the nick is as long as it doesn't start the same as someone else's |
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nfred |
My challenge for some time has been simply to install Koha on my laptop, and darned if I haven't been able to do it yet. |
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kf |
which os are you using? |
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nfred |
I want to set up a similar environment too the Cape Town install. |
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nfred |
OpenSUSE 11.3 in virtualbox |
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kf |
never worked with opensuse |
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nfred |
I've been following instructions on the koha site. |
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kf |
I think debian is what most people use and there are good manuals and even packages for that |
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jcamins |
Yeah, I saw that Debian 6 was released. :) |
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kf |
question: can place holds for debarred user - bug or feature? |
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nfred |
Yes, but the Cape Town install is OpenSuse. w/ Koha 3.00.01.005 |
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mtj |
bug :) |
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jcamins |
nfred: I wasn't suggesting you use Debian, just expressing my excitement about there finally being a version of Debian with MySQL 5.1. |
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kf |
mtj: I feared you would say that |
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oleonard |
kf: Feature :) |
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oleonard |
It could be called a bug if there were code in Koha to prevent it from happening but that code didn't work ;) |
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jwagner |
kf and mtj, as a matter of interest, what would you expect should happen if a patron has existing holds and then gets debarred? Do those holds remain valid? |
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jwagner |
The answer might have an effect on what happens at the point of debarrment. |
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oleonard |
You'd have to add a "suspend hold" feature (sounds familiar) |
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jwagner |
That could work -- the tricky part would be unsuspending. When someone is debarred, it could automatically suspend holds, but no good way to automatically unsuspend them I can think of. |
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jwagner |
No way to distinguish between holds the patron might have suspended himself versus ones the system did |
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kf |
oleonard: I think I would expect it so show a message with an override option |
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kf |
jwagner: I would think yes - remain valid. it will make it easier to make him show up and pay his fines |
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nfred |
kf: I'm working with http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_on_openSUSE_11.3, but can't make the virtualbox server visible to my Windows laptop. Freek (and previously Ricardo Dias Marques) suggested static IP. Using yast with minimum os install, i.e. no gui. |
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kf |
nfred: sounds more like a virtualbox issue than koha |
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nfred |
Yes, I haven't even gotten to the koha part yet! |
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nfred |
However, I'm trying to follow steps listed on the koha site |
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jcamins |
nfred: change VirtualBox to use bridged networking. |
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wahanui1 |
jcamins: that doesn't look right |
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jcamins |
Oh no! I killed wahanui1! |
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nfred |
oops |
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jwagner |
jcamins, it was a MERCY killing! |
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jcamins |
nfred: anyway, use bridged networking. |
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nfred |
I changed to bridged from NAT last night. I then went to my windows browser and still couldn't see http://192.168.1.16 or http://localhost |
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jcamins |
nfred: no, of course not. I was just waiting for you to get your VM booted after you changed it for the next step. |
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mtj |
nfred: you shouldnt be able to see localhost from your windows box ;) |
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nfred |
I'm booting now.. |
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nfred |
okay, logged in as root |
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jcamins |
Run ifconfig |
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jcamins |
It should say something like en0: UP 192.168.1.16 netmask 255.255.255.0 |
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jcamins |
You want to know A) the IP and B) that first bit. |
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nfred |
yes, and Bcast 192.168.1.255 |
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jcamins |
(whether it's en0 or eth0 or what) |
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nfred |
eth0 |
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nengard |
morning all - got a question about recent commits - does anyone know what commit/bug report added the item type icons to the search results in the staff and opac? |
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jcamins |
Okay, now, open up a terminal on your Windows box. |
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jcamins |
Then run ping 192.168.1.16 |
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nfred |
there's also similar info with lo. re ping on windows, request timed out |
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jcamins |
nfred: lo is loopback, so it won't be accessible from Windows. |
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nfred |
jcamins: okay, thanks |
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kf |
jcamins: do you know where I can find a list of relator code or terms? |
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kf |
$4 apparently in 700 and others |
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kf |
bug 5701 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5701 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED, Distinction between authors/additional authors in staff normal view (MARC21/XSLT) |
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jcamins |
kf: yes. http://www.loc.gov/marc/relators/ |
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kf |
thx, was looking there but missed this link |
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jcamins |
kf: recent practice has changed to using terms ($e) instead of codes. |
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kf |
I think we still use the codes |
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kf |
there should be a way to translate them |
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jcamins |
kf: yes, indeed there should. :) |
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kf |
and not sure everybody wants to show them - will complicate the opac view |
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jcamins |
There should be a syspref for that. :) |
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nengard |
as an 'additional author' i would like it to say what i did :) |
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nengard |
right now illustrators will show under additional authors instead of as 'illustrators' |
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nengard |
that too is confusing |
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nfred |
jcamins: should I run another command on the linux side to trouble shoot, or run yast? |
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jcamins |
nfred: sorry, I've been trying to figure out what the next step is. |
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oleonard |
bywater++ # MassCat! |
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nengard |
@later tell rangi got a question about recent commits - what commit/bug report added the item type icons to the search results in the staff and opac? I have a comment but I can't find where to put it |
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huginn |
nengard: The operation succeeded. |
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nengard |
thanks oleonard :) |
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jcamins |
Is it possible to override noissuescharge? |
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jwagner |
jcamins, see Bug 3496 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3496 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jwagner, ASSIGNED, Override maximum fine at checkout |
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oleonard |
jwagner: Sounds like something that should be cherry-picked into master and resubmitted |
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oleonard |
Hi wizzyrea |
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wizzyrea |
good morning :) |
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kf |
nengard: I agree about the separate line - only not happy about the codes/terms |
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kf |
nengard: and it should work for 880 - but the display for 880 is not optimal at the moment |
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nengard |
kf i'm saying that some of those terms need to be there (editor, illustrator, translator) the biggies cause otherwise those people are listed as 'additional authors' and they're not really |
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kf |
ah, so more than one separate line |
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kf |
have different labels and show them, I would like it htat way for opat at least |
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kf |
because ourlibrarians don't know the english codes / terms |
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kf |
and some of them are quite cryptic |
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kf |
ah, mid-air collision |
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kf |
I added a comment to the bug (thought it was already there, missed the bugzilla error message) |
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oleonard |
Hi sekjal |
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oleonard |
You at code4lib? |
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sekjal |
hi, owen. yes, at the pre-conference session on cloud computing |
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* oleonard |
should try to make code4lib someday |
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sekjal |
oleonard: it's pretty neat |
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* oleonard |
hadn't even realized it was coming up |
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kf |
sekjal: druthb with you? |
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sekjal |
kf: she's in transit today |
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sekjal |
will be here around 6pm, I think |
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kf |
ah |
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kf |
sekjal: hope both of you have a good time :) |
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sekjal |
I think we will. hopefully will have some time for a bit of hackfestery |
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oleonard |
Any other koha enthusiasts you know of coming? |
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sekjal |
I've got some patches I want to work up, but they aren't requests from our clients, so it's hard to find the time during the normal work day |
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sekjal |
atz is here |
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kf |
sekjal: speaking of patches - have you seen my comment on the autobarcode issue? |
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kf |
I have to say using our ISILs as branchcode is a bit mean to the system |
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sekjal |
kf: I saw it, but haven't tried to do anything with it yet |
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kf |
ok, just let me me know if I can test or provide more information :) |
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kf |
oleonard++ |
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sekjal |
http://bit.ly/i3bBLw |
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sekjal |
(my article has been published) |
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wizzyrea |
woot! |
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jcamins |
Congratulations! |
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kf |
sekjal++ :) |
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ebegin |
congrats sekjal |
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sekjal |
thanks, everyone |
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sekjal |
full disclosure: I had a co-author, but at the last minute, she asked to have her name taken off for political reasons. |
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magnuse |
sekjal++ |
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rhcl_away |
sekjal++ |
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magnuse |
sekjal: are you allowed to post a preprint/open access version somewhere? |
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magnuse |
e.g. http://eprints.rclis.org/ |
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sekjal |
magnuse: just reading the legalize now. Yes, I'm allowed to republish with impunity |
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* druthb |
pops in for a bit, before lunch and flying.. |
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sekjal |
hey, druthb! |
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magnuse |
sekjal: cool! |
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druthb |
Congratulations, sekjal, on your publication! |
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sekjal |
how was the first leg o' the flight? |
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* magnuse |
waves at druthb |
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druthb |
Mine is only one leg. I'm at DCA (National) now. |
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magnuse |
btw: e-lis has 9 hits for koha: http://eprints.rclis.org/simpl[…]ry=koha&submit=Go |
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wizzyrea |
indianapolis? |
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druthb |
yep. going to Indy, then taking a shuttle to bloomington for code4lib. :D |
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druthb |
(and also, seeing sekjal....actually, that should be the other way around; I'm going to bloomington to see sekjal, and also go to code4lib.) :) |
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magnuse |
lucky people - code4lib sounds cool! |
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sekjal |
druthb: ah, thought you'd have a connection... but since I connected in DCA, that train of thought doesn't really hold |
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rhcl |
eprints seems to be using DSpace, and excellent app |
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magnuse |
rhcl: free software FTW! ;-) |
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jcamins |
What time is it in Detroit? |
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druthb |
sekjal: I should be done with the newbee dinner 8-ish...call me when you're un-busy after that? (and if you don't have other dinner plans, I'm sure there's room for one more friend.) |
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rhcl |
I actually evaluated DSpace here, and plan to go back to that archival project "some day". |
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* druthb |
waves to jcamins. |
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jcamins |
(don't answer that... one of my other channels has a bot which would tell me, and I wondered if munin did too) |
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sekjal |
druthb: I don't have any particular plans after lunch today. I'll give you a buzz |
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druthb |
great! I fly from DCA about 1400 (yes, in 2.5 hours), and will be on the ground by about 1630 in Indy. |
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druthb |
sekjal: I'm supposed to arrive on the shuttle at 1820, at the hotel, and I'll check in and boogie to the dinner. :D |
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sekjal |
druthb: cool, noted |
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magnuse |
rhcl: kete is worth a look too, depending on your use case... |
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rhcl |
I see Kete and DSpace having differences--I've looked at both, though not recently. |
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rhcl |
Kete looks great for recording the memories of living people, audio or visual I think |
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snail |
anyone know who the wikipedia editor 'Alohabot' is? |
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rhcl |
For more static things like still images and documents my _general_impression_ is that DSpace is better suited |
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rhcl |
I also note that many people, possibly including Joann, might disagree |
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kf |
snail: I would guess mtj |
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* oleonard |
too |
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* magnuse |
too |
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* druthb |
waves to Nate_ from DCA's big concourse. |
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magnuse |
rhcl: i see kete more as a "wiki with documents", dspace more as an archival tool, strong on metadata, weak on user participation |
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Nate_ |
Hiya! |
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rhcl |
yes, concur |
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rhcl |
Hey Nate |
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magnuse |
does anyone know the status of "search domains" - do they actually do anything? |
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kf |
hm |
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snail |
mtj: please don't mess with my carefully chosen words around the fork in the wikipedia article. i understand your point of view, but wikipedia has the whole encyclopedic voice thing going on which means it has to be balanced and impartial |
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magnuse |
hi Nate_ |
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jcamins |
Did nengard prepare a training video on customizing notices? |
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oleonard |
snail: Why not take it up in the discussion on that article? |
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kf |
jcamins: I know more about notices than I ever wanted to know - do you have a specific question? |
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jcamins |
No, I just thought it would be nice to send a video on how to customize notices to a customer. :) |
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snail |
oleonard: because far too many of the contributors have COI issues. did you read what I wrote recently at https://secure.wikimedia.org/w[…]ser_talk:Jkostoff ? |
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snail |
oleonard: technically, pretty much anyone in this channel editing the article is a COI |
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oleonard |
Good thing we all exercise such great caution ;) |
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hdl |
hi all |
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kf |
hi hdl |
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magnuse |
hiya hdl |
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hdl |
hi all |
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snail |
I've reverted some of mtj's changes to the wikipedia page. if they show up here and ask about it, encourage them not to simply revert my revision. that way lies the path of madness. I'll be back here as I can, but I can't connect from work |
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oleonard |
I guess my suggestion for using the Wikipedia discussion area didn't go over well |
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schuster2 |
I'm confused by bug 5297 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5297 minor, P5, ---, nengard, NEW, emailLibrarianWhenHoldIsPlaced does nothing |
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schuster2 |
So is this feature working or not now? |
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schuster2 |
Then bug 5489 came about |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5489 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, amit.gupta, ASSIGNED, Send hold email to branch email address if it exists instead of koha email address |
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oleonard |
schuster2: I would say so based on gmcharlt's comment |
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schuster2 |
Does anyone know if the "demo" server from bywater up and running from koha-community has emails running? |
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jcamins |
schuster2: I don't think it does, but I'll check. |
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oleonard |
schuster2: I wouldn't think it would since it's a public demo |
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jcamins |
It may be a few minutes since I'm eating lunch now. |
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schuster2 |
ok - I was just playing around and now realize part of what I was trying to test isn't on that server yet - 5489 isn't applied so it really doesn't matter. |
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schuster2 |
Thanks everyone. |
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schuster2 |
But I will ask this question of those here! When you are editing in a git branch - how does the web know which branch to use and display changes? |
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oleonard |
schuster2: When you check out a branch all the files are updated to that branch's version. Your installation immediately uses those changed files |
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schuster2 |
So if you delete a branch because you abandon the changes you were working on the installation reverts back to the main code? |
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oleonard |
Since you can't delete a branch which is checked out you would have already had to switch to another branch |
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schuster2 |
OK so when you switch the web knows to use whatever the "active" branch is... |
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oleonard |
the web site always looks in the same place for the files to use to do its thing |
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oleonard |
Those files change the moment you switch branches |
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schuster2 |
OK thanks - I'll need to do some playing on my own to get my brain around it... |
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* oleonard |
comes up with several metaphors which are just more confusing |
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sekjal |
alright, time for some lunch |
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schuster2 |
Another question - as I'm working on this kids icon driven searching project. If I wanted to house them on the Koha server I probably need to create a directory on my server. Where would the best place be? |
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sekjal |
back after |
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jcamins |
schuster2: what do you mean? |
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schuster2 |
Gotta go to a meeting sorry be back in a bit |
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oleonard |
What do you all think: Okay to mark a bug "patch sent" if the patch is attached to the report, even if it hasn't been sent to the list? |
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oleonard |
Now that we need everything to have a signoff, the signed-off version will make it to the list |
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oleonard |
briceSanc is attaching reformatted versions of his patches to the bugs and I'd like to mark them "needs signoff" so they'll get looked at. |
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jcamins |
oleonard: makes sense to me. |
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rangi |
As long as the signed off version goes to the list, and ppl set the bug statuses correctly should be fine |
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rangi |
@later tell nengard don't know, way too many commits to memorise them, try searching the git log |
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huginn |
rangi: The operation succeeded. |
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oleonard |
rangi: nengard and I figured it out |
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rangi |
Cool |
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oleonard |
that discussion led to my patch today for Bug 5462 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5462 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Fix variable names so we dont break template::toolkit |
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rangi |
Yay |
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rangi |
I think chris h has a few more for that too |
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rangi |
And yes html tidy and tt play nice |
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rangi |
But I will throw a stapler at anyone who tries to tidy the templates as we convert them |
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rangi |
Because that makes spotting differences |
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rangi |
And applying outstanding patches almost impossible |
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jcamins |
rangi: what kind of stapler? |
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rangi |
The heaviest I can find |
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rangi |
We need to get them converted and be happy we haven't broken stuff |
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* jcamins |
makes a note to send in a patch tidying a small portion of the templates so that rangi will send him a nice heavy stapler. |
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rangi |
Then we can shift everything around |
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rangi |
Ill bring it to ala and throw it :) |
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rangi |
So 3.6 we could start with a big tidy |
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* jcamins |
will take a nice heavy stapler any time, even if he has to wait until June. |
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rangi |
If we do it now, all patches not applied now would have to be rewritten |
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jcamins |
rangi: I agree. I just want that stapler... |
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rangi |
Heh |
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oleonard |
Nice Google home page, NZ: http://www.google.co.nz/ |
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brendan_ |
morning #koha |
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schuster2 |
So rangi you are coming to ALA in June? |
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rangi |
Yes indeed |
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rangi |
Barring unforeseen circumstances |
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rangi |
Ala in june, access in october |
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rangi |
Are my 2 north american trips this year |
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schuster2 |
Wow world traveler! Are you presenting or??? and when??? I will be there working on some School business/Texas Library Association stuff. I would love to buy you a beverage one night. |
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rangi |
Presenting at access, not ALA at least I don't think I am |
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rangi |
And beverages of course gratefully accepted |
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gmcharlt |
rangi: I have ways of getting you to present at ALA ;) |
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rangi |
Orly? |
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gmcharlt |
for the LITA OSS interest group, if nothing else |
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rangi |
Cool, I reckon I could swing that :) |
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rangi |
its on same time as the conf proper? |
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rangi |
Ok my stop bbiab |
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rangi |
back |
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* oleonard |
can't git fetch.. times out... |
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jcamins |
Item type icons and OPACXSLTResultsDisplay. |
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jcamins |
Do they work together? |
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oleonard |
item type icons do not display on the results page unless item-level_itypes is set to OFF |
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jcamins |
Ohh. |
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jcamins |
I see. |
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oleonard |
jcamins: You have a client asking about it? |
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jcamins |
Yep. |
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oleonard |
(just had a conversation about this with nengard) |
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jcamins |
I was trying to figure out why I never had any problems before. |
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jcamins |
The ANS used biblio-level itypes. |
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cait |
hi all |
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jcamins |
Does item-level_itypes affect anything else? |
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oleonard |
Not sure, beyond display of item type images |
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jcamins |
Ah, grep, how I do treasure thee. |
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jcamins |
Oh, it must affect limits. |
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cait |
it should |
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cait |
but there are some smaller bugs |
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oleonard |
jcamins: I think what we should probably work for is a display of item-level material types on the search results page |
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cait |
we had a library reporting that if the biblio level itemtype is not for loan they don't see holds links in the staff result list |
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cait |
oleonard: I think there is no right way to do it if you have more than one item type |
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oleonard |
But if we displayed material-type icons like on the XSLT display... |
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oleonard |
I'm not sure how you'd do it, but I know that what my patrons really want to be able to see at a glance is whether it's a book, DVD, audio book, etc. |
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jcamins |
Yeah, that's the problem I'm trying to deal with. |
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cait |
and the material type icons are not obvious enough? |
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jcamins |
cait: not on the search results page. |
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cait |
are we talking about xslt or normal view? |
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jcamins |
XSLT. |
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jcamins |
Or normal, for that matter. |
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oleonard |
Evergreen does what I'm thinking of, if I'm not mistaken. |
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oleonard |
gmcharlt: Do you where I can find an up-to-date Evergreen OPAC? |
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rangi |
hi anitsirk |
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anitsirk |
morning rangi. |
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anitsirk |
now i need to be careful again to always type in the correct chatroom ;-) |
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rangi |
:) |
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gmcharlt |
oleonard: see http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuw[…]nity_demo_servers |
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gmcharlt |
there's a 2.0.0 (i.e, about as recent as you can get) OPAC demo included there |
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oleonard |
I was surprised that the gapines one was so out of date (in distance from 2.0) |
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oleonard |
gmcharlt: Does the Evergreen search results page indicate item- or biblio-level item/material type? |
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gmcharlt |
oleonard: PINES is only running 1.4.0.7, as it happens |
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magnuse |
hiya anitsirk! |
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gmcharlt |
oleonard: Evergreen has no concept of a bib-level item type as such; what it does is choose the icon to display based on leader and other fixed field values |
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anitsirk |
hi magnuse :-) |
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cait |
hi anitsirk |
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oleonard |
http://evergreen.seo.lib.oh.us[…]er&l=1&d=0&f=&av= |
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cait |
I think that's what we are doing on the result and detail page now too |
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oleonard |
So only one of that row of images will ever be "active" at one time |
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anitsirk |
hi cait. thanks for your nice tweet |
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cait |
not in staff, but in opac |
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gmcharlt |
oleonard: in an ordinary search, yes |
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cait |
different code though - we thought it should be the same include for both when we first looked at it |
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cait |
anitsirk: it's only true - I click on your twitter links every day :) |
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gmcharlt |
there's a "metabib" type search that tries to group formats together; for that type of search, multiple material type icons may get lit up |
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cait |
and it's even more exciting when I know the corner or the place in your photograph |
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oleonard |
I'm picturing a row of images in which more than one is active based on what different types of items are attached |
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anitsirk |
something off topic: check out today's / tomorrow's (?) special Google logo: Jules Verne - it's moving and it's under water :-) |
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oleonard |
But you'd have to do some kind of matching between broad material types and individual item types/collection codes |
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jcamins |
oleonard: shiny! |
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jcamins |
oleonard++ |
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cait |
can we make it a sys pref? |
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* cait |
hides |
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oleonard |
jcamins: That link? Not me. |
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gmcharlt |
oleonard: if it were based on items instead of bib values, could be done (or if it were diving a lot more deeply in fixed fields that could encode multipe formats) |
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jcamins |
oleonard: I was picturing your implementation of that for Koha. |
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cait |
hm, can't access the link |
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cait |
running into a timeout |
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oleonard |
jcamins: I'm curious: Is your client dissatisfied with the material type icons offered by the XSLT results view? |
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oleonard |
jcamins: I'm curious what information isn't displayed by the material type icons that they would want to see |
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jcamins |
oleonard: we just introduced XSLT results view to this client. It helps, but they want the icons larger. |
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jcamins |
And to be able to differentiate downloadable MP3s versus downloadable other things. |
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jcamins |
Based on the 007. |
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oleonard |
jcamins: We've always had to have XSLT turned off because our MARC data is wrong so much of the time :( |
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jcamins |
Heh. Sounds about right. |
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cait |
oleonard: I think there was a syspref to hide the icons in those cases |
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cait |
or hide them in general from the xslt view |
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oleonard |
True. But I'm not sure how much we gain if we leave out the icons. |
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jcamins |
oleonard: direct links to downloadable resources. |
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oleonard |
anyone else having trouble connecting to git? |
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cait |
hm not sure |
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cait |
hm, yes |
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mtj |
oleonard: works ok for me |
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cait |
ah, now it worked. I did a git pull and it took a little while to start |
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sekjal |
oleonard: git pull just worked for me |
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oleonard |
Weird. "fatal: unable to connect a socket" is what I get |
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sekjal |
oleonard: verify which remote? |
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oleonard |
git.koha-community.org[0: 174.143.233.17] |
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sekjal |
hmmm |
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jcamins |
When an item is transferred between branches, it needs to be discharged before it shows up as having arrived at the destination library, right? |
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oleonard |
When an item is transferred its holdingbranch is set to that of the destination |
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oleonard |
I consider this to be wrong |
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jcamins |
Hm. |
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jcamins |
Any idea how it could happen that the holdingbranch is not changed? |
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oleonard |
What are the circumstances? |
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jcamins |
The staff client says "In transit," and the books were sent from the first library to the second, but they can't discharge the books at the second library. |
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schuster2 |
did they check it in? |
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jcamins |
schuster2: they tried and were told they couldn't. |
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oleonard |
Sent as in did a transfer or sent as in checked in at the first branch and Koha initiated an automatic transfer? |
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jcamins |
The former. |
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schuster2 |
What message do they get when they check it in? |
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schuster2 |
How many branches are in the system? Maybe they sent it to the wrong branch. |
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jcamins |
"CANNOT |
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jcamins |
CHECK IN. This item must be returned to home library." |
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jcamins |
I don't think so. |
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schuster2 |
Independant branches on? |
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jcamins |
I think so, yes. |
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jcamins |
(but I'm confirming that) |
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schuster2 |
I'm not sure how that all works with independant branches... Can they share stuff? |
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oleonard |
Could the item not have the homebranch is should? |
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jcamins |
I think it was IndependantBranches. |
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jcamins |
Ummm... has anyone else noticed that IndependantBranches is spelled wrong? |
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jcamins |
I had the spelling of "independent" right the first time. |
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gmcharlt |
jcamins: there's a long-standing bug |
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gmcharlt |
with an argument that we English-speaking folks are the ones spelling it incorrectly ... according to the French ;) |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
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oleonard |
In that case "Branches" is spelled wrong ;) |
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cait |
or we rename it to UnabhängigeBibliotheken ;) |
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gmcharlt |
s/IndependantBranches/SYSPREF_23445/, perhaps? :) |
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jwagner |
Bad girl, cait. Bad |
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cait |
huh? |
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jwagner |
remaining things :-) |
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jwagner |
s/remaining/renaming/ |
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* cait |
is confused |
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jcamins |
jwagner: at least it would be spelled correctly in *some* language then. |
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* jwagner |
was referring to your threat to rename Branches |
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jwagner |
Thought that's what translations were for...Maybe we need an English translation for that one? |
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cait |
ok, confused enough to go to bed, reading my perl book |
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cait |
bye all |
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Come back, cait! I didn't mean to drive you away!!! |
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thinks maybe I'd better leave too -- getting a little too slap-happy.... |
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Good night, #koha |
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sekjal |
cheers, #koha |
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New commit(s) kohagit32: Updating history docs <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]96677c1f9b829671e> / Bug 5700: MT4004 : additem.pl Some Status were not defaulted to the correct value... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]02b4808fd3b030c88> / Bug 5699: don't discard $3 when building a record (UNIMARC specific) <http://git.koha-community.org/ |
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