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druthb |
Howdy, from Bloomington, Indiana. |
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rangi |
hows the hackfest going? |
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druthb |
Starting in about 40 minutes. :) |
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rangi |
cool |
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druthb |
sekjal has run off to see if he can find a couple of twelve-packs of soda or something. |
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rangi |
cool |
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Brooke_ |
kia ora |
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rangi |
heya Brooke_ |
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druthb |
hi, Br |
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druthb |
grrr..nails. Howdy, Brooke. :) |
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feels the love. |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5726 : MT1059 Follow-up : Fix merge reference selection presentation <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2aa2bc5f030dd44f8> |
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Brooke_ |
sanctuary! |
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New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 3495 : Providing a link to the fast add screen in circulation for an item that... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]78157e069278085c9> |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: adding some copyright BibLibre statements <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]855bdf0e6924c2a09> |
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Brooke_ |
do we have a kete? |
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rangi |
http://www.emeraldinsight.com/[…]1906416&show=html |
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* Paul Poulain: Bug 5726 : MT1059 Follow-up : Fix merge reference selection presentation |
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rangi |
does the koha project have a kete? nope |
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Brooke_ |
is Walter bribeable? |
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rangi |
probably |
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waves to brendan |
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brendan_ |
hi brooke |
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rangi |
hi brendan_ |
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brendan_ |
rangi :) |
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brendan_ |
hiya sekjal |
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sekjal |
hey, brendan |
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Brooke_ |
hi sekjal |
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sekjal |
hi, Brooke! |
01:41 |
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sekjal |
koha hackfest at Code4Lib |
01:41 |
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rangi |
find the soda? |
01:41 |
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sekjal |
yes, got a couple twelvepacks |
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sekjal |
and a growler of local beer for anyone who prefers |
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Brooke_ |
omnomnomnomnom |
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Brooke_ |
can't |
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Brooke_ |
might have to drive. |
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eythian |
a "growler"? |
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Brooke_ |
yep |
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sekjal |
eythian: a very large bottle of beer |
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Brooke_ |
like a pint, but better and bigger :D |
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eythian |
Oh. A rigger perhaps then. |
01:47 |
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eythian |
usually PET bottles, 1, 1.5, 2L |
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brendan_ |
oh cool sekjal - are there a few of you there for a koha hackfest? |
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sekjal |
so far it's druthb, bshum and myself |
01:48 |
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sekjal |
we just opened the doors not too long ago |
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rangi |
make sure you show bshum the packages :-) |
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eythian |
every day is a koha hackfest here at Catalyst :D |
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Brooke_ |
http://www.google.com/images?h[…]&biw=1187&bih=924 |
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Brooke_ |
for growler's sake |
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eythian |
ah yep |
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eythian |
similar things, although ours aren't usually glass. |
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doesn't think jugs are interchangeable with growlers. |
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Brooke_ |
thanks to sekjal, I now have the jug song in me head. :P |
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hudsonbot |
Paul Poulain: adding some copyright BibLibre statements |
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brendan_ |
ah bshum should hop in channel here ;) |
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rangi |
hey druthb and brendan_ |
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rangi |
hmm tab fail |
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rangi |
bshum even |
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Brooke_ |
:) |
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bshum |
/waves at the Koha folk :) |
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brendan_ |
hiya |
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druthb |
howdy from a mini hack fest. :) |
02:07 |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5702 : Adding if statement condition to highlight toggle <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7b0fe636c7ed3d1b9> |
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Starting build 353 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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bshum |
Oh, hi rangi :) |
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rangi |
right that will make cait happy, i just pushed her fix for 3009 |
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druthb |
making_cait_happy++ |
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mtj |
http://www.theaustralian.com.a[…]996-1226002713751 |
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* mtj |
waves ... |
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mtj |
heya folks |
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rangi |
!hudson status |
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hudsonbot |
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Koha_3.0.x(disabled) : last build: 2 (3 mo 11 days ago): FAILURE: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]job/Koha_3.0.x/2/ |
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mtj |
!hudson help |
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mtj |
oooh, nice help |
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druthb |
ibot: jcamins? |
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wahanui |
jcamins is supposed to be an outstanding cook. or well-traveled and brilliant. or trying to think of a solution, but short of a set of three sysprefs (ShelfBrowserUsesLocation, ShelfBrowserUsesCcode, and ShelfBrowserUsesHomeBranch), I don't really have any ideas. |
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ibot: sekjal? |
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wahanui |
somebody said sekjal was a wonderful geek. |
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rangi |
heh did we scare bshum off |
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druthb |
rebooting. :) |
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sekjal |
rangi: he's having some networking troubles, we think |
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rangi |
ahh |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_3009' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8326a33a21638338b> / Bug 3009 - Change items.content field so it prints due date by default <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b212d5333852dd41f> / Adding id tags to some OPAC templates. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.g |
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rangi |
windows? |
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wahanui |
windows is only version 7 |
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rangi |
wb bshum |
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rangi: Thanks. Wifi is being mean to me :( |
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Brice Sanchez: Bug 5702 : Adding if statement condition to highlight toggle |
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kmkale |
namaskar #koha |
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rangi |
namaste kmkale |
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druthb |
namaste, kmkale. |
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kmkale |
kia ora chris |
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kmkale |
Good morning druthb |
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kmkale |
did I get that right chris? |
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rangi |
you sure did |
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kmkale |
:) |
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kmkale |
@weather Mumbai |
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huginn |
kmkale: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 22.0�C (8:10 AM IST on February 09, 2011). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). |
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eythian |
> Conditions: Smoke. |
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eythian |
wut? |
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kmkale |
too many vehicles |
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space_librarian |
smoggy |
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eythian |
but 'smoke'? It makes it sound like Perth or something. |
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druthb |
@weather bloomington, in |
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druthb: The current temperature in Bloomington, Indiana is -11.6�C (10:20 PM EST on February 08, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: -14.0�C. Windchill: -12.0�C. Pressure: 30.34 in 1027.3 hPa (Falling). |
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actually its really pleasant. Not smokey or smoggy at all |
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eythian |
heh |
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kmkale |
had a nice drive to office |
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Project Koha_Master build #354: SUCCESS in 46 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/354/ |
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* koha-preprod: Bug 5629 : Adding an HTML anchor in the link in order to choose the right tab when we click on the link |
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* koha-preprod: Add markers to text in Javascript variable in order to be translate. |
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* Koustubha Kale: Adding id tags to some OPAC templates. |
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* Katrin Fischer: Bug 3009 - Change items.content field so it prints due date by default |
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* druthb |
cheers wildly |
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rangi |
0 in the signed off queue now |
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druthb |
yay! |
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kmkale |
5712 must have one of the fastest patches created, signed-off and pushed ;) thanks to chris and owen |
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rangi |
it was easy, cos it cant really break anything :) |
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kmkale |
:) |
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sekjal |
rangi: bug 5716? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5716 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Whitespace correction for browse shelf link |
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rangi |
yep, wasnt marked signed off, but i fixed that |
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rangi |
(they dont show up in my list if they arent marked signed off) |
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my fault on that one... still have to mentally add that to my workflow |
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@weather kolkata |
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indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 25.0�C (9:50 AM IST on February 09, 2011). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). |
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sekjal |
alright, it's tomorrow, time for sleeps |
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sekjal |
g'night, #koha! |
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cait |
good morning #koha |
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kmkale |
hi cait |
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cait |
hi kmkale :) |
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francharb |
hello all |
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hi francharb |
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mtj |
a random perl Q.... |
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mtj |
how do i load text into a $scalar until XXXX |
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mtj |
something like =cut or EOL/EOF ? |
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magnuse |
kia ora, #koha |
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mtj |
ah, print <<EOF; |
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magnuse |
mtj: http://perl.about.com/od/perlt[…]t/perlheredoc.htm ? |
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mtj |
ta magnuse :) |
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magnuse |
mtj: or more appropriate, perhaps - look for "<<EOF" here: http://perldoc.perl.org/perlop[…]te-like-Operators |
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magnuse |
bonjour hdl! |
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hi magnuse |
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kf |
good morning #koha |
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hdl |
hi kf |
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kf |
hi hdl :) |
08:10 |
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hdl |
magnuse: it is called heredocs |
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mtj |
heya folks |
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mtj |
magnuse: hdl - thanx heredocs worked well |
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magnuse is now known as magnus_breakfast |
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kf |
hah - the perl book already works. I know what a heredoc is (since yesterday) |
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* kf |
waves to magnus_breakfast |
08:23 |
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kf |
hi paul_p |
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paul_p |
'morning everybody |
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kf |
hi jo, were you able to sort out your numbers and calculations? |
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jransom |
hi Katrin |
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jransom |
i'm still standing and still have a job |
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kf |
this whole borrower message structure is a bit insane |
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kf |
that's good to hear, but they would be crazy to fire you |
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kf |
and the first comment was not directed to you - only trying to find out how to make this work |
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jransom |
yep. |
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jransom |
the accountant was really gracious actually |
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said so long as we have identified the mistake and I have a solution to fix it we'll be fine ... just have to work through it. |
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kf |
so it will be ok? |
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jransom |
yep. |
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jransom |
phew :) |
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kf |
:) |
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jransom |
babe, I have to go help my son do his homework. |
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jransom |
cya |
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kf |
cya |
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hi jransom |
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paul_p |
kf & magnus_breakfast : http://www.biblibre.com/en/blo[…]om-apr-4th-to-8th |
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magnus_breakfast is now known as magnuse |
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magnuse |
paul_p: sounds really cool! |
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jransom |
waves at hdl and paul and magnus |
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magnuse |
kia ora jransom! how are the plans for Te Takere coming along? |
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kf |
paul_p: yep - really cool |
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kf |
paul_p: traduction = translation? |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 5716 - Whitespace correction for browse shelf <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5a7aa7e3649f20d0b> |
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hdl |
kf: yes |
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its looking really good |
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jransom |
consulattion (yes - another round) finishes Saturday. |
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jransom |
but the councillors are right behind it and getting lots of positive feedback |
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magnuse |
jransom: cool! |
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paul_p |
magnuse, right. traduction=translation. Fixed |
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magnuse |
paul_p: that was kf, not me ;-) |
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magnuse |
hiya kmkale! |
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hi magnuse |
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* magnuse |
agrees with paul_p: never underestimate the power of eye-candy... |
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Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5716 - Whitespace correction for browse shelf |
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kf |
magnuse: yeah, but colors are difficult - having some different stylsheets to choose from is probably best |
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kf |
grey/black/white are nice and neutral, whatever corporate design your institution has |
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magnuse |
kf: yeah, choice would be good |
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magnuse |
it could be different themes, blue, green, grey etc |
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magnuse |
if we decided on one "palette" of a handful of colours and applied it to different elements it shouldn't be too hard to replace it with another "palette" that applied to the same elements just with different colours... |
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magnuse |
but then, i'm no designer... |
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kf |
magnus: EAN :) |
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kf |
yep, for the colors - this is what I had in mind |
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kf |
or even make the palette configurable like other software does |
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kf |
so you could choose a handful of colors that will be used in the stylesheet |
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kf |
magnus: I was thinking EAN could be an ID for dvds |
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kf: it probably can, but do libraries put that in their records? |
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magnuse |
kf: yeah, having the colours configurable through the web ui would be very cool! |
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magnuse |
letting individual librarians set their own palette would be cool too! ;-) |
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kf |
individual settings would be cool in a lot of places |
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kf |
like search preferences in advanced search |
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kf |
individual default settings for frameworks and such |
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kf |
I had a presentation where they asked for that |
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magnuse |
it would probably introduce a whole new level of complexity, but yes, it would be a good "selling point" |
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kf |
yeah, let's start with stylesheet per library :) |
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kf |
library = installation |
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magnuse |
how hard can it be? ;-) |
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kf |
hehe |
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hdl |
kf EAN is a number identifying CDs and DVDs |
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hdl |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E[…]an_Article_Number |
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had a vision of the OPAC as a social network this morning - give users a profile page and let them show off recent comments, stars and things added to lists - lett them connect with other users and display recent activity from their connections... |
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kf |
hdl: thx - that was what I thought - but not sure about cataloging practice |
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kf |
magnuse: have you read the evergreen 2.0 feature list? |
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magnuse |
we use a program called DVD Profiler (http://invelos.com/dvdpro/Info.aspx) to keep track of our DVDs/Blu-rays, and that program is based around EANs |
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magnuse |
kf: nope |
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kf |
"There is backend code support for a method to allow patrons to link their records in a way that grant privileges. This could be utilized in future implementations for social networking features. " |
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kf |
not sure about the concept |
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kf |
http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuw[…]=feature_list_2_0 |
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magnuse |
not sure i understand "link their records in a way that grant privileges"... |
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kf |
yeah, same problem here |
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kf |
perhals let users see something? |
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kf |
let ohter users see my lists/recommendations/comments |
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magnuse |
yeah, maybe |
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slef |
kmkale (or anyone else near that part of the world): do you offer distance Koha training in English? |
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slef: yes we can |
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slef |
kmkale: would you msg me with details, please, or a URL to a page about it? |
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kmkale |
slef: I dont have a page. Could you tell me a bit more about it? For library staff is it? or installation and configuration stuff? |
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kmkale: doing so in private, thanks. |
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@marc 001 |
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slef: The control number assigned by the organization creating, using, or distributing the record. The MARC code for the organization is contained in field 003 (Control Number Identifier). [] |
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@marc 008 |
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slef: This field contains 40 character positions (00-39) that provide coded information about the record as a whole and about special bibliographic aspects of the item being cataloged. These coded data elements are potentially useful for retrieval and data management purposes. [] |
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marcelr |
hi all, anyone having seen problem of having no marc details for a record in staff client in current master? |
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jcamins_away |
marcelr: doesn't ring any bells. |
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jcamins |
Good morning, #koha |
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marcelr |
there was some reverting done on marcdetail.pl |
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kmkale |
hi jcamins |
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jwagner |
Morning, all |
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jwagner |
Can anyone confirm -- for the -library option on the overdue notices, can you enter multiple libraries like -library BRANCHA,BRANCHB etc.? |
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jwagner |
Or would you need to cron the branches separately? |
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jwagner |
I _think_ from looking at the code you'd have to cron them separately. |
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* kf |
waves to marcelr |
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marcelr |
hi kf |
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* jcamins |
waves to kf |
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kf |
I wrote you a minute ago |
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* kf |
waves to jacmins :) |
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marcelr |
yes saw it |
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kf |
hope it's helpful |
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marcelr |
will look into it, thanks |
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kf |
marcelr++ |
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hdl |
jwagner: you would have to use -library BRANCHA -library BRANCHB |
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kf |
I really appreciate your patches and xslt work |
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jwagner |
hdl, thanks! |
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marcelr |
ok |
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hdl |
I don't remember whether patch done were pushed in master |
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jcamins |
marcelr++ # I also appreciate the XSLT improvements |
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marcelr |
well.. |
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jcamins |
@karma marcel_de_rooy |
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huginn |
jcamins: Karma for "marcel_de_rooy" has been increased 2 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 2. |
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jcamins |
marcelr++ |
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jcamins |
marcelr++ # since I've been giving your karma to the wrong nick |
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sekjal |
morning, #koha! |
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slef |
hi sekjal |
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* slef |
goes to lunch |
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marcelr |
koha, i updated #5462 for not showing the marc details in current master |
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hdl |
jwagner: daae4090e3a1e716495dd505c68b758dc25ac05a this patch on our git |
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jwagner |
hdl, ? |
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hdl |
jwagner: since I cannot confirm this patch was pushed. I let you know what we did to allow multiple libraries. |
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jwagner |
Oh, OK. I'll see if I can tell |
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jwagner |
Do you have a URL to that page on your git repo? |
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hdl |
http://git.biblibre.com/?p=koh[…]791056e54;hb=HEAD |
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hdl |
It contains all our devs and bug fixes on overdue_notices. |
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jwagner |
Thanks much! |
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hdl |
you are welcome |
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oleonard |
Hm, so template toolkit can't handle a TMPL varialbe beginning with a number? |
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oleonard |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…]98f3aef52d#patch2 |
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hdl |
:S |
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oleonard |
That change to MARCdetail.tmpl seems to have been made without a corresponding change to MARCdetail.pl |
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marcelr |
seems to be the case, yes |
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* oleonard |
has a fix |
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oleonard |
Patch sent |
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marcelr |
oleonard: could you attach it to the bug? |
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oleonard |
Done |
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marcelr |
ok, will test it now |
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oleonard |
Thanks marcelr |
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jwagner |
hdl, it looks like at least the parts of your commit that allow the multiple branchcodes are in current head. Not sure about the entire commit, but I see the line: my @branchcodes; # Branch(es) passed as parameter |
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oleonard |
Can anyone tell me how to create the conditions to duplicate bug 5723? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5723 enhancement, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, tiny 'continued by' font with xslt on in staff client |
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* oleonard |
doesn't know how "continues" and "continued by" work |
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jcamins |
oleonard: didn't we already fix that? |
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jcamins |
It's caused by using a self-closing tag. |
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jcamins |
Firefox doesn't like that. |
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oleonard |
nengard filed the bug yesterday |
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oleonard |
I think we fixed it for some other circumstance? |
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jcamins |
Yeah, that might be. |
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jcamins |
I'll try and find an example record. |
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jcamins |
Ooh, I bet I know what the problem is- the fix was for OPAC only. |
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jcamins |
Bug 4928 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4928 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, camins, RESOLVED FIXED, With multiple 76x-78x fields, the font display gets progressively smaller |
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jcamins |
I'm not sure I can think of any example records for you off the top of my head. |
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oleonard |
jcamins: Since you supplied the original fix can I assign this new one to you? |
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jcamins |
Sure. |
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* oleonard |
is pleased to discover he can tab-complete git stash apply |
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oleonard |
Wow, Inbox 5. |
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jcamins |
Lucky. I'm at, like, Inbox One Billion. |
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* oleonard |
feels the gravitational pull of jcamins' inbox |
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* jcamins |
does too |
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magnus_away |
inbox 2, todo-list one billion... |
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kmkale |
bye all. good night |
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jcamins |
I am cautiously optimistic about my sourdough starter... hooray for my new apartment! |
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oleonard |
Your apartment is sourdough starter-friendly? |
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jcamins |
Yup. |
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jcamins |
In my old apartment, anything without live yeast grew mold. |
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oleonard |
jcamins: Do you create your own starter or do you have one that you've nurtured? |
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jcamins |
oleonard: I'm trying to get a starter going. |
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jcamins |
Then I will nurture it through the decades and it will grow old with me. :) |
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magnus_away |
how sweet... ;-) |
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jcamins |
magnus_away: sour, actually. ;) |
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magnuse |
hehe |
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oleonard |
jcamins: Are you following a recipe for your starter? |
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jcamins |
oleonard: yeah, I have a textbook, Professional Baking by Wayn Gisslen, that I use. |
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oleonard |
Wow, a textbook! |
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jcamins |
oleonard: it's fantastic. |
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jcamins |
I also have Bernard Clayton's book of breads, but the textbook is a lot more consistent. |
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oleonard |
I should suggest that my local library get that |
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jcamins |
oleonard: do you bake bread? |
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oleonard |
Rarely, but I love sourdough pancakes |
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jcamins |
Oooh. |
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jcamins |
I bet those would be easy... start them a day in advance and let them ferment a bit. |
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sekjal |
idea: keyword authority records |
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jcamins |
sekjal: a good idea, but first we need subfield authority records. |
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oleonard |
sekjal: I'm sorry, how does that relate to this very important discussion of food? :P |
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jcamins |
oleonard: it will allow us to relate the keyword "yummy" to the subject "sourdough bread." |
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sekjal |
keyword search on "yummy" also does a search on "delicious", "tasty", "scrumptious" and "mmmmmm" |
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magnuse |
sekjal: have you found a bug number for the lexile-patch? |
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sekjal |
magnuse: I don't think a bug report was filed |
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jcamins |
I'm confused. |
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jcamins |
Isn't lexile search already available? |
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jcamins |
lex:? |
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magnuse |
there's a patch submitted about a year ago, but it doesn't seem to have been accepted/integrated |
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magnuse |
at least as far as i could see... |
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jcamins |
magnuse: the thing is, I'm looking in my git log, and it's right there. |
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jcamins |
It's also functioning. |
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jcamins |
Look in record.abs. |
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jcamins |
What's confusing me is that I know I've had this conversation before, and I can't figure out why it's in my system and no one else's. |
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jcamins |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…]272b17e67b2b3db8e |
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jcamins |
So the question is... what am I doing that is resulting in that feature being in my Koha codebase? |
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magnuse |
ah, looks like that sets up the index, but there is noe way to select it for searching in e.g. advanced search? |
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jcamins |
Ah-ha! |
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jcamins |
That's what I'm doing. |
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jcamins |
jquer. |
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jcamins |
*jQuery |
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jcamins |
$("select[name='idx']").append("<option value='lex'>Lexile</option>"); |
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jcamins |
magnuse: thanks. Now I know that I'm not going completely crazy. |
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magnuse |
jcamins: np ;-) |
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magnuse |
does that just allow you to search for one exact lexile value, or can you search for bigger than, less than, between x and y? |
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jcamins |
Hm. |
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jcamins |
That's keyword mapping. |
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jcamins |
*matching |
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magnuse |
? |
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jcamins |
The way I did the jQuery. |
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jcamins |
Sorry, my head is *very* fuzzy from Sudafed. |
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oleonard |
He's totally high on sourdough fumes |
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jcamins |
oleonard: heh. |
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magnuse |
ooh, addictive stuff, that |
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kf: do you know anything about getting branch information to appear in notices? |
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fcapo |
Hello, I have a problem with the merge_authority.pl script. It always seems to return an error when I run it witht he -b option : |
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fcapo |
Merging |
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fcapo |
{_conn} undefined: has this Connection been destroy()ed? at /usr/lib/perl5/ZOOM.pm line 341. |
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fcapo |
Anybody got a solution or a fix? |
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jcamins |
Not me, sorry. |
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fcapo |
Almost forgot: Koha version 3.02.03.001 |
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Nate_ |
Hello #koha! |
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jcamins |
Good morning. |
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tcohen |
hi, what permission enables the user (on staff interface) to edit circulation rules? |
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oleonard |
I would think parameters - Set Koha system parameters |
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oleonard |
Yes, that's the one. |
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oleonard |
It's easy to test: revoke that permission and see if you can get to the admin pages |
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tcohen |
oleonard: thanks, i don't have right now my testing koha running |
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tcohen |
this permissions should be more granular I think |
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oleonard |
hdl or paul_p, do you have some patches pending for that? |
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hdl |
It has been there for a while iirc |
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tcohen |
ps -ef | grep zebrasrv | grep -v grep | grep -v daemon -c |
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tcohen |
26 |
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tcohen |
got them all working on a vm from the storage server :-D |
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jcamins |
Where does Koha put the messaging logs? |
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tcohen |
on the same partition on the storage |
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jcamins |
Oh, message_queue? |
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jcamins |
tcohen: that was a general question, not for you. ;) |
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tcohen |
jcamins: sorry! |
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tcohen |
I think it reports to STDOUT only |
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jcamins |
It stays in message_queue, it looks like. |
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jcamins |
Hm. |
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jcamins |
Why would an e-mail be generated if to_address were NULL? |
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gmcharlt |
jcamins: the message queue processor can pick the email address up from the patron's record |
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jcamins |
gmcharlt: ah. So that doesn't necessarily mean that the e-mail was lost in the ether. |
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gmcharlt |
right |
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kf |
jcamins: see your question - which notices? |
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kf |
overdue should work with the branches table |
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jcamins |
Renewal notice. |
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jcamins |
No, wait. |
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jcamins |
Item now due. |
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kf |
item due - not sure. I think I have the branch address hardcoded in there (one branch library) |
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kf |
I know that some notices don#t work with the branches table |
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kf |
but not sure now which :( have you checked bugzilla? |
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kf |
and yes, it's message_queue |
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jcamins |
I'll look in bugzilla. |
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kf |
there is also an entry for the print message to the library - that's the one with no email address |
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jcamins |
I figured you'd know off the top of your head. |
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kf |
I know it works for overdue - I was testing that recently |
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kf |
I would love to see some work there - there is also a problem with the new <item> syntax |
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kf |
you can't get date from the issues table - so no due date |
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hdl |
Is slef the only one interested on data persistence. |
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slef |
REPLY TO THE EMAIL, PEOPLE :) |
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* slef |
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magnuse |
hdl: i'm interested as an observer, but that shouldn't affect when a meeting is held... |
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kf |
hdl: not my programming level |
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kf |
hdl: not about not being interested in getting that fixed, will probably lurk when there is a meeting |
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hdl |
I knew irc was a bad place for that call |
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kf |
hm? |
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hdl |
I mean the devel list should be the place. |
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wizzyrea |
slef: have you seen bigbluebutton.org |
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slef |
wizzyrea: yes, but I don't remember it. Shall I look again? |
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slef |
:) |
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slef |
I think long-term webmastering screws up one's memory :) |
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wizzyrea |
well it's a FLOSS online meeting software, looks pretty cool, but I don't know how accessible it is |
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wizzyrea |
I was mostly curious as to whether you had any opinions on it :) |
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slef |
"Alternate HTML content should be placed here. This content requires the Adobe Flash Player. Get Flash" |
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wizzyrea |
well, that about answers that |
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slef |
It's not FLOSS for the client. |
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slef |
Actually, might be. I can try it with my browser that has the Gnash plugin later. |
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wizzyrea |
indeed... when are we gonna kick this flash habit we've got going |
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slef |
but that's on another floor just now |
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wizzyrea |
we=the interwebs and it's denizens |
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wizzyrea |
np np |
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slef |
yeah, I was lamenting elsewhere that video is a solved problem, so why don't any webinar tools seem to use one of those solutions yet |
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slef |
I think it's probably a tribute to the perceived ease of "just use adobe". |
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drulms |
Hello all |
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oleonard |
Hi drulms |
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drulms |
Everything ready for 3.2.3 - everything, SIP too ! |
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drulms |
But not the public facing Z39.50 |
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drulms |
My config is: |
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drulms |
<listen id="publicserver" >tcp:@:2100</listen> |
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drulms |
In koha-conf.xml, but I get this error when trying to connect through the zebra-client: |
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drulms |
Z> open localhost:2100/biblios Connecting...OK. Sent initrequest. Connection rejected by v3 target. ID : 81 Name : GFS/YAZ Version: 4.1.3 3ec3ad2bd1e248022bbb7c9d762844bef7f8a461 Init response contains 1 otherInfo unit: 1: otherInfo unit contains 1 diagnostic: 1: code=1 (Permanent system error), addinfo='' Options: search present triggerResourceC |
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drulms |
Connection rejected by v4 target ??? Anyone know what any of this means? |
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magnuse |
drulms: could it be related to this: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5667 ? |
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huginn |
Bug 5667: minor, P5, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED, koha-conf.xml missing entry for z39.50 publicserver |
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wizzyrea |
oh that could def be it, no server but a listening ID |
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drulms |
I added the <listen id="publicserver" >tcp:@:2100</listen> (and commented it out) and restarted zebra - still no dice |
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drulms |
should there be a way for me to fix it? |
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drulms |
zebra search works fine |
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drulms |
from Koha |
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wizzyrea |
right, that's outgoing |
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drulms |
So it should work, correct? |
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Starting build 98 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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New commit(s) kohagit32: Fix for Bug 5716 - Whitespace correction for browse shelf <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]72c5d609dda6f9844> / Bug 3009 - Change items.content field so it prints due date by default <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]59b9000b94f9d6aa1> / Add markers to text in Javascript variable in order to be translate. <http://g |
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magnuse |
drulms: it's been a while since i did it, but i seem to remember having to copy both <server id="biblioserver" listenref="biblioserver">...</server> and <serverinfo id="biblioserver">...</serverinfo> and then replacing those three occurences of "biblioserver" with "publicserver" so you get <server id="publicserver" listenref="publicserver">...</server> and <serverinfo id="publicserver">...</serverinfo> |
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magnuse |
and then restart zebra |
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drulms |
hmmmm, so I wonder if anyone has the Z39.50 public server working in Koha 3.2? |
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drulms |
magnuse: I suppose I can try that |
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jcamins |
drulms: it works on master, certainly. |
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magnuse |
drulms: good luck, i gotta run :-) |
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drulms |
jacmins: on master? |
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drulms |
magnuse: Thank you! |
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drulms |
jcamins: This makes the Z39.50 server work, but now the Koha search does not work ! :) |
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drulms |
(after restarting zebra) |
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drulms |
heh |
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jcamins |
drulms: Hm. |
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jcamins |
I know it can be done. |
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drulms |
jcamins: Authority searching works however |
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jcamins |
Ooh! I think I might know this one... change the port? |
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drulms |
So it seems like a one or the other thing |
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drulms |
I changed the port to 2100 |
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drulms |
is that the probs? |
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jcamins |
I'm not sure. I wouldn't think that port would be a problem. |
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jcamins |
sekjal: welcome back. We're troubleshooting a Zebra server that won't work with both public Zebra and Koha at the same time. |
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sekjal |
which server |
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jcamins |
drulms' 3.2. |
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jcamins |
drulms: which version of 3.2? |
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sekjal |
I have a suspicion |
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Project Koha_3.2.x build #98: SUCCESS in 23 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]ob/Koha_3.2.x/98/ |
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* Colin Campbell: Bug 2742 Correct language names in install |
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* Chris Nighswonger: Updating Version Number to 3.02.03.002 |
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* Fr?d?rick Capovilla: Bug 5616: Corrects an utf-8 encoding problem in cardviews |
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sekjal |
would need to see the koha-conf.xml to confirm |
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drulms |
3.2.3 of course :) |
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sekjal |
does the <serverinfo> tag after the <server id="publicserver"> also have id="publicserver"? |
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sekjal |
I know when I implemented open Z39.50, it was a massive copy/paste job from the regular biblioserver, and I didn't make that change at first. |
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drulms |
OK, I got it! |
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drulms |
Ah, sekjal answered my question |
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sekjal |
that was it? |
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drulms |
I just copied the entire biblioserver block with the serverinfo block and then renamed the 3 tags to public server |
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sekjal |
huzzah! |
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drulms |
I mean publicserver (one word) |
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fcapo |
hum... I got a problem when fetching records from a Canadian Z39.50 server. Accented characters are returned incorrectly :/ |
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fcapo |
For example, I receive eÌ when I should have é |
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jcamins |
fcapo: those look the same to me. |
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jcamins |
e-with-acute |
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fcapo |
yea, but the first one is a non-zebra searchable, decomposed version of the accented character |
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jcamins |
Ah. Right. That. |
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jcamins |
It seems that ICU chains is the best solution to searchable diacritics. Unfortunately I can't give you instructions on setting them up. |
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fcapo |
When we did our first record import, we did a conversion on our records with MarcEdit to get composed accented characters (canonical composition) |
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drulms |
fcapo - thank I cannot help with |
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drulms |
thanks everyone - have a good one(s) |
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fcapo |
I might be able modify Koha so that it does the canonical composition on the Z39.50 search results. But I don't know if it would be a good idea. |
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jcamins |
fcapo: I think the conclusion was that it wouldn't be a good idea. |
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jcamins |
Because Zebra lies about what sort of data it's returning. |
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fcapo |
:( |
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sekjal |
ICU chains would let you search 'e' and get 'é' |
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sekjal |
whether the marc record is normalized for composition or decomposition, that's not dealt with |
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fcapo |
ok... but the non-composed version of the characters look strange in the browser. And copy-pasting these characters and putting them in a search might not work |
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sekjal |
but searching in Zebra is just much nicer with ICU chains |
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sekjal |
fcapo: yes |
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fcapo |
I don't know how our client's old system did it, but the accented characters were shown correctly while they were stored in non-composed format |
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sekjal |
we'd need to normalize the marc before displaying it... good, but much more difficult than to implement than ICU chains |
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fcapo |
Right now, we did the normalization with MarcEdit before passing them to bulkmarcimport and it's working fine... |
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fcapo |
The only problem is when a user wants to create a new records from Z39.50 :/ |
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cait |
not sure where this discussion started - but sounds very familiar |
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jcamins |
cait: feeling a sense of deja vu? |
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jcamins |
:) |
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cait |
yep |
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cait |
I think I was really getting on peoples nerves with my normalization issues |
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jcamins |
You think _you_ were? It's a miracle Ian still speaks to me with all my whining. ;) |
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cait |
fcapo: we do the same, normalize before import, z3950 is a problem (german umlauts), but our records are always overwritten through nightly imports - so the problem is temporary. |
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cait |
it would be great if the records could be normalized during import |
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fcapo |
One of my coworker might have asked the same questions a while ago too, that's how we got the MarcEdit normalization idea. |
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cait |
it's a common problem I think |
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cait |
if I understood you right and we are talking about unicode normalization forms |
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sekjal |
aside from current Code4Lib presentation: compass-style.org.... for maintaining CSS with logic |
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fcapo |
yep |
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cait |
the problem we have with umluats is wrong display in the browser |
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fcapo |
Right now we have a problem with new records from Z39.50 searchs being non-searchable because of decomposed accented characters. |
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cait |
and we have still problems with ß and other diacritics - still not sure if the problem is on side of union catalog or koha |
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cait |
fcapo: right |
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jcamins |
Do we have a list of new features that have been developed since Koha 3.2.0 was released? |
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fcapo |
and they also look wrong :P |
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cait |
fcapo: I think there is no solution in koha for that right now - and it's one of the reasons I think solving it for display is not enough |
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cait |
having only one form in the database is preferable |
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fcapo |
cait : yes, that's my goal |
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cait |
jcamins: I think not - I started one with new features, but lost track |
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cait |
jcamins: perhaps nicole? she updated the documentation for some things |
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jcamins |
cait: that's what I thought. Thanks. So much happened that we lost track, too. |
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cait |
i have three items on my list :( |
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cait |
* new text block in opac for no results page |
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cait |
* ppn in acq |
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cait |
ppn = control number |
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cait |
* control-number as parameter in the opac search box |
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cait |
not much |
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fcapo |
I think I'll just try to use Unicode::Normalize on my Z39.50 search results. Don't have much to lose. |
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jcamins |
Ooh, thanks, forgot about the no results page. |
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cait |
jcamins: :) |
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rangi |
Morning |
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rhcl |
hi rangi |
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cait |
hi rangi |
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fcapo |
Ok, using SetUTF8Flag on the every record returned by the Z39.50 search does fix my problem. |
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cait |
will you send a patch? |
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fcapo |
Dunno, I'm unsure it's a good solution |
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cait |
me neither - but I would like to test it for our records :) |
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rangi |
How about adding an isutf8 test |
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rangi |
Before setting the flag |
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fcapo |
Well, its right after a call to MarcToUTF8Record... |
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gmcharlt |
indeed |
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fcapo |
The record is already UTF8, I just use that subroutine because it does the normalization on every subfield of the record. |
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rangi |
why not do it in the subroutine then? |
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rangi |
Ie if you are getting back an incorrect record from that sub |
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rangi |
Do we have a normalisesubfields syspref? |
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fcapo |
rangi : do it in which subroutine? |
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rangi |
MarcToUTF8Record |
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cait |
rangi: no sysprefs about unicode normalization |
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rangi |
Maybe if we think there might be a reason not to normalise we could do that, but is suspect we always want normalised unicode, but I'm not 100% on that |
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* rangi |
is on the bus before his morning coffee |
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rangi |
So I might be talking rubbish |
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cait |
we always want it - not sure about ohter languages |
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cait |
we do it on the import side from the beginning |
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fcapo |
rango :Well, I'm not 100% sure we always want normalized unicode, that's why I didn't touch the MarcToUTF8Record sub. |
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* sekjal |
just load tested his dev box.... very discouraging |
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fcapo |
^^^ rangi* sorry |
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rangi |
How about adding a switch then, normalise |
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rangi |
If you pass that in, it normalises |
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rangi |
then if there is a place we don't want it, we don't pass that |
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* rangi |
just doesn't like big .pl files |
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rangi |
All the work should be in .pm |
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rangi |
@wunder wellington nz |
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huginn |
rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0�C (8:00 AM NZDT on February 10, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
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rangi |
Gonna be a nice day |
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rangi |
Bbiab |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 1.0�C (8:00 PM CET on February 09, 2011). Conditions: Heavy Fog. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Rising). |
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druthb |
Off to break, then breakouts! |
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Brooke_ |
kia ora! |
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wizzyrea |
hi brooke :) |
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cait |
hi Brooke |
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fcapo |
Is there a place where I could send experimental patches like the Z39.50 modification I just made? |
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jcamins |
koha-patches |
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jcamins |
Just include in the commit message notes on your concerns. |
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fcapo |
Is there any help on how to send patches to koha-patchs? Never used a mailing list before :S |
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wizzyrea |
git? |
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wahanui |
freaking rules |
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wizzyrea |
^^ wow, that's funny |
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wizzyrea |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Control_Using_Git |
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wizzyrea |
sending patches is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Control_Using_Git |
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wizzyrea |
sending patches? |
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wahanui |
sending patches is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Control_Using_Git |
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jcamins |
wahanui: well done! |
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wahanui |
jcamins: what? |
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fcapo |
Thank you and sorry for my ignorance. |
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jcamins |
fcapo: you need to be subscribed to the mailing list for your message to go through. |
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* Brooke_ |
waves to hdl |
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jcamins |
Does Koha work with FastCGI? |
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waves to space_librarian. |
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space_librarian |
morning! |
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blinks into her cup of coffee |
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ibeardslee |
empty? |
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space_librarian |
half full going to need a refill already |
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* ibeardslee |
really does need to learn how to do decent coffee from our machines |
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Brooke_ |
or you could get a one cup at a time jobby |
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Brooke_ |
those are saweet |
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Brooke_ |
and they are verbooten in me house with good reason |
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ibeardslee |
because they are only one cup at a time? |
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space_librarian |
one cup? like those nespresso thingymabobs |
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Brooke_ |
no because they fab such a nice cuppa, I'd be wired 24/7 |
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space_librarian |
mmmm.... good coffee. |
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jcamins |
rangi: do you know anything about how the Koha packages configure Apache? |
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jcamins |
Apparently Apache on my VM is using way less memory than Apache on our servers. |
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jcamins |
Like, an order of magnitude less. |
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eythian |
jcamins: it's me you probably want to talk to about that |
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eythian |
but they don't really do anything funny |
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jcamins |
eythian: Wonderful! |
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jcamins |
Oh. |
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eythian |
the most funny is that they install the per-user thingamie |
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jcamins |
You didn't disable particularly wasteful thing? |
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eythian |
it's too early for me to remember what it's called |
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* eythian |
checks |
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cait |
eythian = new nick ? |
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eythian |
cait: oh yeah |
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eythian |
new channel, but I was already on this server with this nick |
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eythian |
and can't be arsed making two connections just for nick reasons. |
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rangi |
its a dfferent apache |
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rangi |
thats the main different |
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rangi |
gah |
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rangi |
difference |
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wahanui |
difference is, like, merely that 008 uses defined value lists and 260 $a is merely transcribed from the material |
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eythian |
jcamins: apache2-mpm-itk |
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jcamins |
Uh-oh. Where did my data go? |
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rangi |
yup, so that each virtual host can run as a different user |
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eythian |
famous last words... |
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* jcamins |
bangs his head against the desk. |
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jcamins |
Anyway, thanks. I thought our servers were using that same Apache, but maybe not. |
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eythian |
mpm-* is pretty much the same as the regular mpm, but allows for different system users. |
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rangi |
i doubt you other ones are using itk |
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rangi |
most likely worker |
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eythian |
*mpm-itk I mean |
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jcamins |
We were just talking about seeing if worker was more efficient than itk, but maybe we had it backwards. |
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jcamins |
Data's back. :D |
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eythian |
jcamins: on a modern server, the difference should be negligible. |
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jcamins |
InnoDB couldn't start with only 384MB/RAM. |
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eythian |
oh ah |
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rangi |
you need itk to be safe |
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rangi |
hosting more than one koha |
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eythian |
There's been a request to allow it to not use itk, but I'm not sure how I'd make that work so that it worked properly in both cases. |
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rangi |
oh who requested that? |
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jcamins |
Wait... where's my data? |
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* jcamins |
sighs |
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rangi |
youd probably have to disable the multi functions |
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eythian |
s/Wait/Dude/ |
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rangi |
make 2 different packages |
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rangi |
would be the only way i could think of doing it |
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eythian |
rangi: e.s. rosenberg |
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rangi |
koha-multi |
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rangi |
koha-single |
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irmaB |
g'day all |
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rangi |
something like that |
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rangi |
never heard of them |
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eythian |
rangi: well, it'd be a different template really. The zebra users could stay, but the apache template would blow up on non-itk I think |
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Brooke_ |
g'day Irma :D |
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rangi |
eythian: yeah |
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irmaB |
Brooke hi there :) |
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rangi |
heya Nate_ |
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rangi |
hi irmaB |
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irmaB |
is chris_n still online? |
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irmaB |
hi rangi (what was the score last night) Wellington vs Sydney? |
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chris_n |
troubleshooting memory errors in a servers ipmi log, but here for a moment |
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slef |
hi irmaB |
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* sijobl |
wonders if Irma is just rubbing it in |
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sijobl |
we've got a football team for sale, all reasonable offers considered :-) |
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irmaB |
ah thanks chris_n ...about barcode labels: where can I change the batch limit of 20? |
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irmaB |
re football nah ...just curious |
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sijobl |
2-0 to sydney was what I recall hearing in the radio |
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sijobl |
might have been 2-1 |
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chris_n |
irmaB: as in items per batch or total number of batches? |
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irmaB |
no wonder not a peep was heard from my lounge :( |
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irmaB |
items per bath |
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chris_n |
afaik there is none |
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irmaB |
batch |
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* chris_n |
is looking at batches of over 40 items as we chat |
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irmaB |
20 keeps on popping up when i create a new batch |
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chris_n |
are you referring to the batch ID? |
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* cait |
waves to chrisdothall |
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chris_n |
more_chrises++ |
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chris_n |
never mind the spelling :) |
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irmaB |
no, @ "add new items" |
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slef |
they appear in pages of 20 |
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chris_n |
ahh |
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slef |
and yes, it's rather irritating :) |
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chris_n |
that is a limitation of the search code which I did not write, only inherited and have tweaked from time to time |
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irmaB |
Results 1 through 20 of 70 |
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slef |
as in, I get complaints and hack it around, but not in any neat enough way for a patch. Not checked if that's still in 3.2 |
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chris_n |
but I believe there is a bug open for it |
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irmaB |
and yet when I print only 20 print |
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chris_n |
basically |
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chris_n |
you have to page through the results and add all on each page... I think |
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slef |
irmaB: you're doing "add all" and it only adds those on-screen, right? |
20:35 |
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slef |
chris_n: that's correct, at least in 3.0 |
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cait |
and hi Irmab :) |
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chris_n |
the same basic search code is used in 3.2 |
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chris_n |
cait scared her |
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cait |
no I didn't |
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chris_n |
wb irmaB |
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cait |
hi IrmaB :) |
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cait |
but can correct the typo now :) |
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irmaB |
hi again |
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irmaB |
hi cait :) |
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Brooke_ |
everyone <3s irmaB |
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irmaB |
slef yes I select all but only 20 print (should be 70) |
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slef |
irmaB: select all = select the visible, sadly |
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chris_n |
irmaB: basically you have to: 'select all,' 'add checked,' next page, 'select all,' 'add checked,' ad infinitum |
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slef |
chris_n: you near finding that bug number or shall I? |
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chris_n |
looking |
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* Brooke_ |
waves to davi before heading to a meeting |
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irmaB |
ok. Got it chris_n thanks. Will give it a try. |
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chris_n |
bug 5656 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5656 normal, P5, ---, cnighswonger, NEW, Add Checked only adding first checked item to batch |
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davi |
hi Brooke_ |
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irmaB |
waves goodbye to Brooke |
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davi |
hi rangi |
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slef |
chris_n: either that's missummarised or a different bug :( |
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slef |
chris_n: looks like a different bug |
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chris_n |
? |
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slef |
"when I press the 'Add Checked' button on the top of that page only the first item is being added to the batch" |
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rangi |
hi davi |
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irmaB |
thanks slef and saw your email. Will answer after breakfat :) |
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slef |
irmaB: thanks |
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rangi |
davi: i have hte perfect patch for you to sign off on ;) |
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davi |
great :) |
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chris_n |
slef: is that not the problem irmaB was describing? |
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davi |
let me know rangi |
20:43 |
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rangi |
http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5682 |
20:43 |
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huginn |
Bug 5682: minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, POD in C4::Charset was wrong |
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slef |
chris_n: no and not the problem you were describing either :) |
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davi |
thanks rangi. Looking |
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rangi |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]gn_off_on_patches |
20:43 |
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* chris_n |
is totally unfocused atm... sorry ;-) |
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chris_n |
a file server with memory issues has me slightly distracted |
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slef |
chris_n: no problem. I'm trying to do two things at once and failing to spot the bug irmaB describes in bugs either. |
20:44 |
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slef |
chris_n: is it making you forgetful? ;-) |
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davi |
ack rangi |
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chris_n |
LOL |
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chris_n |
no, that is probably an age related problem... ;-) |
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slef |
Actually, I don't think this bug is reported. :-( I'll see if it's in the RESOLVEDs and so on... |
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slef |
no, I can't find it at all... I fail :-( |
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irmaB |
slef do you want me to report it? |
20:58 |
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irmaB |
Also, an other attemp to add the library's name above the barcode number failed. |
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slef |
irmaB: yes, please, as long as chris_n doesn't object |
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irmaB |
in Bibliographic data to print, I choose : "items.homebranch items.barcode" in List Fields. |
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irmaB |
in new layout |
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slef |
I don't know about that. I've not played with the new labeller enough. |
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slef |
I used to hack the 3.0 one into submission. |
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irmaB |
chris_n perhaps? |
21:03 |
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irmaB |
yep that one way :) |
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davi |
I am creating my account and bugs.koha-community |
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davi |
rangi, about that patch I would say it is OK. I will review it a little more and then I will sign it |
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rangi |
excellent |
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rangi |
http://koha-releasemanagement.branchable.com/ |
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rangi |
there is a link there |
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rangi |
patches needing signoff |
21:05 |
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rangi |
anything in there is fair game :) |
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slef |
Does anyone know what "Permanent Flag" means to a library? (bbl, sorry) |
21:09 |
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space_librarian |
usually means when something is scanned a note will pop-up, and it can't be edited. like "this item cannot be checked out", etc. |
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space_librarian |
that's how we used it in circ anyway... |
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davi |
rangi, I have not got the email about account creation yet |
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rangi |
account where? |
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davi |
http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]createaccount.cgi |
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rangi |
email is weird, theres about a million reasons why you may not have got it yet |
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davi |
I created it with email david AT leals.com |
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davi |
after trying |
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davi |
Reset password and getting the message: There is no user named ' david AT leals dot com'. Either you mis-typed the name or that user has not yet registered for a Bugzilla account. |
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davi |
Any hint? |
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rangi |
no idea, seesm to work for everyone else |
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davi |
ok, I am going to try with another email |
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davi |
Now I have just got two email, one for each account creating. I will confirm only one |
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wizzyrea |
koha does age calculations on the fly, correct? |
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wizzyrea |
and/or SIP Doesn't send age if asked, right? |
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gmcharlt |
wizzyrea: I think it just sends the birthdate, leaving it up to the SIP consumer to do the calculation |
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wizzyrea |
aha, interesting |
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wizzyrea |
I wonder if envisionware understands that, their code asks for "age" |
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wizzyrea |
apparently |
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wizzyrea |
from what I can grasp given that I can't actually look at it |
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wizzyrea |
oh that's nice, the sip sends "greetings from koha" |
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wizzyrea |
very cute :) |
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slef |
space_librarian: thanks. I've got both Permanent and Circulate flags though :-/ |
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space_librarian |
then it'll be permanant mark-ups like "this books has been stolen/pages are missing/etc" |
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space_librarian |
this book... sp |
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slef |
it's just a flag, Y or N :-/ I think I'll map it to damaged |
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slef |
no, restricted |
22:47 |
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slef |
if that's wrong, we'll rectify later :) |
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jcamins |
Good night, #koha |
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* mtj |
waves from the sunny coast |
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space_librarian |
that sounds suitably logical |
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rangi |
its pizza thursday! |
23:11 |
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rangi |
bbl |
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space_librarian |
bbl. Time to embarrass myself... |
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mtj |
go get 'em ;) |
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