Time Nick Message 00:33 druthb Howdy, from Bloomington, Indiana. 00:35 rangi hows the hackfest going? 00:35 druthb Starting in about 40 minutes. :) 00:35 rangi cool 00:36 druthb sekjal has run off to see if he can find a couple of twelve-packs of soda or something. 00:36 rangi cool 00:44 Brooke_ kia ora 00:44 rangi heya Brooke_ 00:45 druthb hi, Br 00:45 druthb grrr..nails. Howdy, Brooke. :) 00:46 * Brooke_ feels the love. 00:47 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5726 : MT1059 Follow-up : Fix merge reference selection presentation <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3a29f37dff1c58a344822a52aa2bc5f030dd44f8> 00:53 Brooke_ sanctuary! 00:57 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 3495 : Providing a link to the fast add screen in circulation for an item that... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7c376879b4fc53a47a5a4d578157e069278085c9> 00:57 hudsonbot Starting build 351 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) 01:07 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: adding some copyright BibLibre statements <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d22001b1c49bf06ef86bf50855bdf0e6924c2a09> 01:25 * Brooke_ grins impishly 01:25 Brooke_ do we have a kete? 01:26 rangi http://www.emeraldinsight.com/journals.htm?articleid=1906416&show=html 01:26 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #351: SUCCESS in 29 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/351/ 01:26 hudsonbot * Paul Poulain: Bug 5726 : MT1059 Follow-up : Fix merge reference selection presentation 01:26 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Bug 3495 : Providing a link to the fast add screen in circulation for an item that isn't found 01:27 hudsonbot Starting build 352 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) 01:28 rangi does the koha project have a kete? nope 01:29 Brooke_ is Walter bribeable? 01:30 rangi probably 01:38 * Brooke_ waves to brendan 01:38 brendan_ hi brooke 01:39 rangi hi brendan_ 01:39 brendan_ rangi :) 01:40 brendan_ hiya sekjal 01:40 sekjal hey, brendan 01:40 Brooke_ hi sekjal 01:41 sekjal hi, Brooke! 01:41 sekjal koha hackfest at Code4Lib 01:41 rangi find the soda? 01:41 sekjal yes, got a couple twelvepacks 01:42 sekjal and a growler of local beer for anyone who prefers 01:42 Brooke_ omnomnomnomnom 01:42 Brooke_ can't 01:42 Brooke_ might have to drive. 01:46 eythian a "growler"? 01:46 Brooke_ yep 01:47 sekjal eythian: a very large bottle of beer 01:47 Brooke_ like a pint, but better and bigger :D 01:47 eythian Oh. A rigger perhaps then. 01:47 eythian usually PET bottles, 1, 1.5, 2L 01:47 brendan_ oh cool sekjal - are there a few of you there for a koha hackfest? 01:48 sekjal so far it's druthb, bshum and myself 01:48 sekjal we just opened the doors not too long ago 01:48 rangi make sure you show bshum the packages :-) 01:48 eythian every day is a koha hackfest here at Catalyst :D 01:48 Brooke_ http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&sugexp=ldymls&xhr=t&q=growlers&cp=0&client=safari&rls=en&bs=1&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1187&bih=924 01:48 Brooke_ for growler's sake 01:50 eythian ah yep 01:51 eythian similar things, although ours aren't usually glass. 01:51 * Brooke_ doesn't think jugs are interchangeable with growlers. 01:51 Brooke_ thanks to sekjal, I now have the jug song in me head. :P 01:52 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #352: SUCCESS in 24 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/352/ 01:52 hudsonbot Paul Poulain: adding some copyright BibLibre statements 01:53 brendan_ ah bshum should hop in channel here ;) 01:58 rangi hey druthb and brendan_ 01:58 rangi hmm tab fail 01:58 rangi bshum even 01:58 Brooke_ :) 01:59 bshum /waves at the Koha folk :) 02:00 brendan_ hiya 02:01 druthb howdy from a mini hack fest. :) 02:07 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5702 : Adding if statement condition to highlight toggle <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=02824a0b08fd2178fa970277b0fe636c7ed3d1b9> 02:12 hudsonbot Starting build 353 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) 02:13 bshum Oh, hi rangi :) 02:23 rangi right that will make cait happy, i just pushed her fix for 3009 02:23 druthb making_cait_happy++ 02:24 mtj http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/media/catholic-confession-app-on-iphone-and-ipad-provides-virtual-priest/story-e6frg996-1226002713751 02:24 * mtj waves ... 02:24 mtj heya folks 02:24 rangi !hudson status 02:24 hudsonbot status of all projects: 02:24 hudsonbot Koha_3.0.x(disabled) : last build: 2 (3 mo 11 days ago): FAILURE: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.0.x/2/ 02:24 hudsonbot Koha_3.2.x: last build: 97 (1 day 2 hr ago): SUCCESS: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.2.x/97/ 02:24 hudsonbot Koha_Docs_3_2_x_Branch: last build: 6 (7 days 1 hr ago): SUCCESS: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3_2_x_Branch/6/ 02:24 hudsonbot Koha_Docs_Master_Branch: last build: 56 (7 days 1 hr ago): SUCCESS: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_Master_Branch/56/ 02:24 hudsonbot Koha_Master(BUILDING: 12 min and counting): last build: 352 (57 min ago): SUCCESS: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/352/ 02:25 mtj !hudson help 02:25 hudsonbot Available commands: 02:25 hudsonbot abort <job> - specify which job to abort 02:25 hudsonbot alias [<alias> [<command>]] - defines a new alias, deletes one or lists all existing aliases 02:25 hudsonbot botsnack [<snack>] - om nom nom 02:25 hudsonbot build <job> [now|<delay>[s|m|h]] [<parameterkey>=<value>]* - schedule a job build, with standard, custom or no quiet period 02:25 hudsonbot comment <job> <build-#> <comment> - adds a description to a build 02:25 hudsonbot h [<job>|-v <view>] - show the health of a specific job, jobs in a view or all jobs 02:25 hudsonbot health [<job>|-v <view>] - show the health of a specific job, jobs in a view or all jobs 02:25 hudsonbot jobs [<job>|-v <view>] - show the status of a specific job, jobs in a view or all jobs 02:25 hudsonbot q - show the state of the build queue 02:25 hudsonbot queue - show the state of the build queue 02:25 hudsonbot s [<job>|-v <view>] - show the status of a specific job, jobs in a view or all jobs 02:25 hudsonbot schedule <job> [now|<delay>[s|m|h]] [<parameterkey>=<value>]* - schedule a job build, with standard, custom or no quiet period 02:25 hudsonbot status [<job>|-v <view>] - show the status of a specific job, jobs in a view or all jobs 02:25 hudsonbot testresult [<job>|-v <view>] - show the test results of a specific job, jobs in a view or all jobs 02:25 hudsonbot userstat <username> - prints information about a Hudson user 02:25 mtj oooh, nice help 02:25 druthb ibot: jcamins? 02:25 wahanui jcamins is supposed to be an outstanding cook. or well-traveled and brilliant. or trying to think of a solution, but short of a set of three sysprefs (ShelfBrowserUsesLocation, ShelfBrowserUsesCcode, and ShelfBrowserUsesHomeBranch), I don't really have any ideas. 02:26 druthb ibot: sekjal? 02:26 wahanui somebody said sekjal was a wonderful geek. 02:26 rangi heh did we scare bshum off 02:26 druthb rebooting. :) 02:26 sekjal rangi: he's having some networking troubles, we think 02:27 rangi ahh 02:27 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_3009' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bdd0e225bc291280cc40b4a8326a33a21638338b> / Bug 3009 - Change items.content field so it prints due date by default <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=224d2dee90237670672a7f2b212d5333852dd41f> / Adding id tags to some OPAC templates. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.g 02:27 rangi windows? 02:27 wahanui windows is only version 7 02:29 rangi wb bshum 02:29 bshum rangi: Thanks. Wifi is being mean to me :( 02:37 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #353: SUCCESS in 24 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/353/ 02:37 hudsonbot Brice Sanchez: Bug 5702 : Adding if statement condition to highlight toggle 02:37 hudsonbot Starting build 354 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) 02:47 * druthb gets out the Velcro for bshum. 03:04 kmkale namaskar #koha 03:04 rangi namaste kmkale 03:05 druthb namaste, kmkale. 03:05 kmkale kia ora chris 03:05 kmkale Good morning druthb 03:05 kmkale did I get that right chris? 03:06 rangi you sure did 03:07 kmkale :) 03:10 kmkale @weather Mumbai 03:10 huginn kmkale: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 22.0�C (8:10 AM IST on February 09, 2011). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). 03:12 eythian > Conditions: Smoke. 03:12 eythian wut? 03:14 kmkale too many vehicles 03:14 space_librarian smoggy 03:16 eythian but 'smoke'? It makes it sound like Perth or something. 03:17 druthb @weather bloomington, in 03:17 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Bloomington, Indiana is -11.6�C (10:20 PM EST on February 08, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: -14.0�C. Windchill: -12.0�C. Pressure: 30.34 in 1027.3 hPa (Falling). 03:18 kmkale actually its really pleasant. Not smokey or smoggy at all 03:18 eythian heh 03:18 kmkale had a nice drive to office 03:24 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #354: SUCCESS in 46 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/354/ 03:24 hudsonbot * koha-preprod: Bug 5629 : Adding an HTML anchor in the link in order to choose the right tab when we click on the link 03:24 hudsonbot * koha-preprod: Add markers to text in Javascript variable in order to be translate. 03:24 hudsonbot * Koustubha Kale: Adding id tags to some OPAC templates. 03:24 hudsonbot * Katrin Fischer: Bug 3009 - Change items.content field so it prints due date by default 03:24 * druthb cheers wildly 03:25 rangi 0 in the signed off queue now 03:26 druthb yay! 03:33 kmkale 5712 must have one of the fastest patches created, signed-off and pushed ;) thanks to chris and owen 03:34 rangi it was easy, cos it cant really break anything :) 03:35 kmkale :) 03:52 sekjal rangi: bug 5716? 03:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5716 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Whitespace correction for browse shelf link 03:54 rangi yep, wasnt marked signed off, but i fixed that 03:55 rangi (they dont show up in my list if they arent marked signed off) 04:10 sekjal my fault on that one... still have to mentally add that to my workflow 04:38 indradg @weather kolkata 04:38 huginn indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 25.0�C (9:50 AM IST on February 09, 2011). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). 04:57 sekjal alright, it's tomorrow, time for sleeps 04:57 sekjal g'night, #koha! 05:34 cait good morning #koha 05:38 kmkale hi cait 05:54 cait hi kmkale :) 07:04 francharb hello all 07:13 cait hi francharb 07:45 mtj a random perl Q.... 07:46 mtj how do i load text into a $scalar until XXXX 07:46 mtj something like =cut or EOL/EOF ? 07:48 magnuse kia ora, #koha 07:49 mtj ah, print <<EOF; 07:49 magnuse mtj: http://perl.about.com/od/perltutorials/qt/perlheredoc.htm ? 07:50 mtj ta magnuse :) 07:52 magnuse mtj: or more appropriate, perhaps - look for "<<EOF" here: http://perldoc.perl.org/perlop.html#Quote-and-Quote-like-Operators 07:52 magnuse bonjour hdl! 07:52 hdl hi magnuse 08:04 kf good morning #koha 08:09 hdl hi kf 08:10 kf hi hdl :) 08:10 hdl magnuse: it is called heredocs 08:10 mtj heya folks 08:11 mtj magnuse: hdl - thanx heredocs worked well 08:23 kf hah - the perl book already works. I know what a heredoc is (since yesterday) 08:23 * kf waves to magnus_breakfast 08:23 kf hi paul_p 08:23 paul_p 'morning everybody 08:30 kf hi jo, were you able to sort out your numbers and calculations? 08:31 jransom hi Katrin 08:32 jransom i'm still standing and still have a job 08:32 kf this whole borrower message structure is a bit insane 08:32 kf that's good to hear, but they would be crazy to fire you 08:33 kf and the first comment was not directed to you - only trying to find out how to make this work 08:33 jransom yep. 08:33 jransom the accountant was really gracious actually 08:34 jransom said so long as we have identified the mistake and I have a solution to fix it we'll be fine ... just have to work through it. 08:35 kf so it will be ok? 08:36 jransom yep. 08:36 jransom phew :) 08:37 kf :) 08:37 jransom babe, I have to go help my son do his homework. 08:37 jransom cya 08:40 kf cya 08:46 hdl hi jransom 08:53 paul_p kf & magnus_breakfast : http://www.biblibre.com/en/blog/entry/koha-34-sprint-week-from-apr-4th-to-8th 08:56 magnuse paul_p: sounds really cool! 08:56 jransom waves at hdl and paul and magnus 08:57 hudsonbot Starting build 355 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) 08:57 magnuse kia ora jransom! how are the plans for Te Takere coming along? 08:58 kf paul_p: yep - really cool 08:58 kf paul_p: traduction = translation? 09:02 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 5716 - Whitespace correction for browse shelf <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d7208f76bda9073df0452b85a7aa7e3649f20d0b> 09:12 hdl kf: yes 09:15 jransom its looking really good 09:15 jransom consulattion (yes - another round) finishes Saturday. 09:16 jransom but the councillors are right behind it and getting lots of positive feedback 09:16 magnuse jransom: cool! 09:18 paul_p magnuse, right. traduction=translation. Fixed 09:19 magnuse paul_p: that was kf, not me ;-) 09:19 magnuse hiya kmkale! 09:19 kmkale hi magnuse 09:21 * magnuse agrees with paul_p: never underestimate the power of eye-candy... 09:22 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #355: SUCCESS in 25 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/355/ 09:22 hudsonbot Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5716 - Whitespace correction for browse shelf 09:49 kf magnuse: yeah, but colors are difficult - having some different stylsheets to choose from is probably best 09:49 kf grey/black/white are nice and neutral, whatever corporate design your institution has 09:49 magnuse kf: yeah, choice would be good 09:50 magnuse it could be different themes, blue, green, grey etc 09:53 magnuse if we decided on one "palette" of a handful of colours and applied it to different elements it shouldn't be too hard to replace it with another "palette" that applied to the same elements just with different colours... 09:53 magnuse but then, i'm no designer... 09:55 kf magnus: EAN :) 09:55 kf yep, for the colors - this is what I had in mind 09:56 kf or even make the palette configurable like other software does 09:56 kf so you could choose a handful of colors that will be used in the stylesheet 09:57 kf magnus: I was thinking EAN could be an ID for dvds 09:59 magnuse kf: it probably can, but do libraries put that in their records? 09:59 magnuse kf: yeah, having the colours configurable through the web ui would be very cool! 10:00 magnuse letting individual librarians set their own palette would be cool too! ;-) 10:00 kf individual settings would be cool in a lot of places 10:00 kf like search preferences in advanced search 10:00 kf individual default settings for frameworks and such 10:00 kf I had a presentation where they asked for that 10:02 magnuse it would probably introduce a whole new level of complexity, but yes, it would be a good "selling point" 10:08 kf yeah, let's start with stylesheet per library :) 10:08 kf library = installation 10:09 magnuse how hard can it be? ;-) 10:17 kf hehe 10:35 hdl kf EAN is a number identifying CDs and DVDs 10:35 hdl http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Article_Number 10:36 * magnuse had a vision of the OPAC as a social network this morning - give users a profile page and let them show off recent comments, stars and things added to lists - lett them connect with other users and display recent activity from their connections... 10:37 kf hdl: thx - that was what I thought - but not sure about cataloging practice 10:38 kf magnuse: have you read the evergreen 2.0 feature list? 10:38 magnuse we use a program called DVD Profiler (http://invelos.com/dvdpro/Info.aspx) to keep track of our DVDs/Blu-rays, and that program is based around EANs 10:39 magnuse kf: nope 10:39 kf "There is backend code support for a method to allow patrons to link their records in a way that grant privileges. This could be utilized in future implementations for social networking features. " 10:39 kf not sure about the concept 10:39 kf http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=feature_list_2_0 10:40 magnuse not sure i understand "link their records in a way that grant privileges"... 10:47 kf yeah, same problem here 10:48 kf perhals let users see something? 10:48 kf let ohter users see my lists/recommendations/comments 10:49 magnuse yeah, maybe 12:18 slef kmkale (or anyone else near that part of the world): do you offer distance Koha training in English? 12:18 kmkale slef: yes we can 12:18 slef kmkale: would you msg me with details, please, or a URL to a page about it? 12:19 kmkale slef: I dont have a page. Could you tell me a bit more about it? For library staff is it? or installation and configuration stuff? 12:20 slef kmkale: doing so in private, thanks. 12:33 slef @marc 001 12:33 huginn slef: The control number assigned by the organization creating, using, or distributing the record. The MARC code for the organization is contained in field 003 (Control Number Identifier). [] 12:34 slef @marc 008 12:34 huginn slef: This field contains 40 character positions (00-39) that provide coded information about the record as a whole and about special bibliographic aspects of the item being cataloged. These coded data elements are potentially useful for retrieval and data management purposes. [] 12:44 marcelr hi all, anyone having seen problem of having no marc details for a record in staff client in current master? 12:44 jcamins_away marcelr: doesn't ring any bells. 12:44 jcamins Good morning, #koha 12:45 marcelr there was some reverting done on marcdetail.pl 12:45 kmkale hi jcamins 12:46 jwagner Morning, all 13:10 jwagner Can anyone confirm -- for the -library option on the overdue notices, can you enter multiple libraries like -library BRANCHA,BRANCHB etc.? 13:10 jwagner Or would you need to cron the branches separately? 13:11 jwagner I _think_ from looking at the code you'd have to cron them separately. 13:17 * kf waves to marcelr 13:17 marcelr hi kf 13:17 * jcamins waves to kf 13:17 kf I wrote you a minute ago 13:17 * kf waves to jacmins :) 13:17 marcelr yes saw it 13:18 kf hope it's helpful 13:18 marcelr will look into it, thanks 13:19 kf marcelr++ 13:19 hdl jwagner: you would have to use -library BRANCHA -library BRANCHB 13:19 kf I really appreciate your patches and xslt work 13:19 jwagner hdl, thanks! 13:19 marcelr ok 13:20 hdl I don't remember whether patch done were pushed in master 13:20 jcamins marcelr++ # I also appreciate the XSLT improvements 13:20 marcelr well.. 13:21 jcamins @karma marcel_de_rooy 13:21 huginn jcamins: Karma for "marcel_de_rooy" has been increased 2 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 2. 13:21 jcamins marcelr++ 13:21 jcamins marcelr++ # since I've been giving your karma to the wrong nick 13:23 sekjal morning, #koha! 13:23 slef hi sekjal 13:23 * slef goes to lunch 13:23 marcelr koha, i updated #5462 for not showing the marc details in current master 13:24 hdl jwagner: daae4090e3a1e716495dd505c68b758dc25ac05a this patch on our git 13:25 jwagner hdl, ? 13:25 hdl jwagner: since I cannot confirm this patch was pushed. I let you know what we did to allow multiple libraries. 13:26 jwagner Oh, OK. I'll see if I can tell 13:26 jwagner Do you have a URL to that page on your git repo? 13:28 hdl http://git.biblibre.com/?p=koha;a=blob;f=misc/cronjobs/overdue_notices.pl;h=2bb572b78815174474eb1aab437417a791056e54;hb=HEAD 13:28 hdl It contains all our devs and bug fixes on overdue_notices. 13:30 jwagner Thanks much! 13:31 hdl you are welcome 13:31 oleonard Hm, so template toolkit can't handle a TMPL varialbe beginning with a number? 13:32 oleonard http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8fd29f3d62d1aa5d7e728032ea00bd98f3aef52d#patch2 13:33 hdl :S 13:34 oleonard That change to MARCdetail.tmpl seems to have been made without a corresponding change to MARCdetail.pl 13:35 marcelr seems to be the case, yes 13:37 * oleonard has a fix 13:41 oleonard Patch sent 13:42 marcelr oleonard: could you attach it to the bug? 13:43 oleonard Done 13:43 marcelr ok, will test it now 13:47 oleonard Thanks marcelr 13:54 jwagner hdl, it looks like at least the parts of your commit that allow the multiple branchcodes are in current head. Not sure about the entire commit, but I see the line: my @branchcodes; # Branch(es) passed as parameter 14:06 oleonard Can anyone tell me how to create the conditions to duplicate bug 5723? 14:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5723 enhancement, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, tiny 'continued by' font with xslt on in staff client 14:06 * oleonard doesn't know how "continues" and "continued by" work 14:06 jcamins oleonard: didn't we already fix that? 14:07 jcamins It's caused by using a self-closing tag. 14:07 jcamins Firefox doesn't like that. 14:07 oleonard nengard filed the bug yesterday 14:07 oleonard I think we fixed it for some other circumstance? 14:08 jcamins Yeah, that might be. 14:08 jcamins I'll try and find an example record. 14:08 jcamins Ooh, I bet I know what the problem is- the fix was for OPAC only. 14:09 jcamins Bug 4928 14:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4928 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, camins, RESOLVED FIXED, With multiple 76x-78x fields, the font display gets progressively smaller 14:11 jcamins I'm not sure I can think of any example records for you off the top of my head. 14:11 oleonard jcamins: Since you supplied the original fix can I assign this new one to you? 14:11 jcamins Sure. 14:29 * oleonard is pleased to discover he can tab-complete git stash apply 14:35 oleonard Wow, Inbox 5. 14:36 jcamins Lucky. I'm at, like, Inbox One Billion. 14:36 * oleonard feels the gravitational pull of jcamins' inbox 14:37 * jcamins does too 14:37 magnus_away inbox 2, todo-list one billion... 14:38 kmkale bye all. good night 14:43 jcamins I am cautiously optimistic about my sourdough starter... hooray for my new apartment! 14:44 oleonard Your apartment is sourdough starter-friendly? 14:45 jcamins Yup. 14:45 jcamins In my old apartment, anything without live yeast grew mold. 14:46 oleonard jcamins: Do you create your own starter or do you have one that you've nurtured? 14:46 jcamins oleonard: I'm trying to get a starter going. 14:46 jcamins Then I will nurture it through the decades and it will grow old with me. :) 14:47 magnus_away how sweet... ;-) 14:48 jcamins magnus_away: sour, actually. ;) 14:48 magnuse hehe 14:50 oleonard jcamins: Are you following a recipe for your starter? 14:50 jcamins oleonard: yeah, I have a textbook, Professional Baking by Wayn Gisslen, that I use. 14:50 oleonard Wow, a textbook! 14:51 jcamins oleonard: it's fantastic. 14:51 jcamins I also have Bernard Clayton's book of breads, but the textbook is a lot more consistent. 14:52 oleonard I should suggest that my local library get that 14:53 jcamins oleonard: do you bake bread? 14:53 oleonard Rarely, but I love sourdough pancakes 14:53 jcamins Oooh. 14:54 jcamins I bet those would be easy... start them a day in advance and let them ferment a bit. 14:55 sekjal idea: keyword authority records 14:55 jcamins sekjal: a good idea, but first we need subfield authority records. 14:56 oleonard sekjal: I'm sorry, how does that relate to this very important discussion of food? :P 14:56 jcamins oleonard: it will allow us to relate the keyword "yummy" to the subject "sourdough bread." 14:58 sekjal keyword search on "yummy" also does a search on "delicious", "tasty", "scrumptious" and "mmmmmm" 15:04 magnuse sekjal: have you found a bug number for the lexile-patch? 15:04 sekjal magnuse: I don't think a bug report was filed 15:05 jcamins I'm confused. 15:05 jcamins Isn't lexile search already available? 15:06 jcamins lex:? 15:06 magnuse there's a patch submitted about a year ago, but it doesn't seem to have been accepted/integrated 15:07 magnuse at least as far as i could see... 15:07 jcamins magnuse: the thing is, I'm looking in my git log, and it's right there. 15:07 jcamins It's also functioning. 15:07 jcamins Look in record.abs. 15:08 jcamins What's confusing me is that I know I've had this conversation before, and I can't figure out why it's in my system and no one else's. 15:09 jcamins http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commit;h=fda681b2d037e0d64d8ed71272b17e67b2b3db8e 15:11 jcamins So the question is... what am I doing that is resulting in that feature being in my Koha codebase? 15:12 magnuse ah, looks like that sets up the index, but there is noe way to select it for searching in e.g. advanced search? 15:12 jcamins Ah-ha! 15:12 jcamins That's what I'm doing. 15:12 jcamins jquer. 15:12 jcamins *jQuery 15:13 jcamins $("select[name='idx']").append("<option value='lex'>Lexile</option>"); 15:14 jcamins magnuse: thanks. Now I know that I'm not going completely crazy. 15:14 magnuse jcamins: np ;-) 15:16 magnuse does that just allow you to search for one exact lexile value, or can you search for bigger than, less than, between x and y? 15:16 jcamins Hm. 15:16 jcamins That's keyword mapping. 15:16 jcamins *matching 15:18 magnuse ? 15:19 jcamins The way I did the jQuery. 15:19 jcamins Sorry, my head is *very* fuzzy from Sudafed. 15:20 oleonard He's totally high on sourdough fumes 15:20 jcamins oleonard: heh. 15:21 magnuse ooh, addictive stuff, that 15:29 jcamins kf: do you know anything about getting branch information to appear in notices? 15:36 fcapo Hello, I have a problem with the merge_authority.pl script. It always seems to return an error when I run it witht he -b option : 15:36 fcapo Merging 15:36 fcapo {_conn} undefined: has this Connection been destroy()ed? at /usr/lib/perl5/ZOOM.pm line 341. 15:37 fcapo Anybody got a solution or a fix? 15:38 jcamins Not me, sorry. 15:39 fcapo Almost forgot: Koha version 3.02.03.001 15:41 Nate_ Hello #koha! 15:41 jcamins Good morning. 15:48 tcohen hi, what permission enables the user (on staff interface) to edit circulation rules? 15:52 oleonard I would think parameters - Set Koha system parameters 15:53 oleonard Yes, that's the one. 15:54 oleonard It's easy to test: revoke that permission and see if you can get to the admin pages 15:56 tcohen oleonard: thanks, i don't have right now my testing koha running 15:57 tcohen this permissions should be more granular I think 15:58 oleonard hdl or paul_p, do you have some patches pending for that? 15:59 hdl It has been there for a while iirc 16:01 tcohen ps -ef | grep zebrasrv | grep -v grep | grep -v daemon -c 16:01 tcohen 26 16:02 tcohen got them all working on a vm from the storage server :-D 16:03 jcamins Where does Koha put the messaging logs? 16:03 tcohen on the same partition on the storage 16:03 jcamins Oh, message_queue? 16:03 jcamins tcohen: that was a general question, not for you. ;) 16:04 tcohen jcamins: sorry! 16:04 tcohen I think it reports to STDOUT only 16:05 jcamins It stays in message_queue, it looks like. 16:07 jcamins Hm. 16:08 jcamins Why would an e-mail be generated if to_address were NULL? 16:14 gmcharlt jcamins: the message queue processor can pick the email address up from the patron's record 16:14 jcamins gmcharlt: ah. So that doesn't necessarily mean that the e-mail was lost in the ether. 16:14 gmcharlt right 16:15 kf jcamins: see your question - which notices? 16:16 kf overdue should work with the branches table 16:16 jcamins Renewal notice. 16:16 jcamins No, wait. 16:16 jcamins Item now due. 16:17 kf item due - not sure. I think I have the branch address hardcoded in there (one branch library) 16:17 kf I know that some notices don#t work with the branches table 16:17 kf but not sure now which :( have you checked bugzilla? 16:18 kf and yes, it's message_queue 16:18 jcamins I'll look in bugzilla. 16:18 kf there is also an entry for the print message to the library - that's the one with no email address 16:18 jcamins I figured you'd know off the top of your head. 16:18 kf I know it works for overdue - I was testing that recently 16:19 kf I would love to see some work there - there is also a problem with the new <item> syntax 16:19 kf you can't get date from the issues table - so no due date 16:32 hdl Is slef the only one interested on data persistence. 16:33 slef REPLY TO THE EMAIL, PEOPLE :) 16:33 * slef is less subtle than hdl 16:33 magnuse hdl: i'm interested as an observer, but that shouldn't affect when a meeting is held... 16:34 kf hdl: not my programming level 16:34 kf hdl: not about not being interested in getting that fixed, will probably lurk when there is a meeting 16:34 hdl I knew irc was a bad place for that call 16:35 kf hm? 16:35 hdl I mean the devel list should be the place. 16:48 wizzyrea slef: have you seen bigbluebutton.org 16:49 slef wizzyrea: yes, but I don't remember it. Shall I look again? 16:49 slef :) 16:50 slef I think long-term webmastering screws up one's memory :) 16:50 wizzyrea well it's a FLOSS online meeting software, looks pretty cool, but I don't know how accessible it is 16:50 wizzyrea I was mostly curious as to whether you had any opinions on it :) 16:50 slef "Alternate HTML content should be placed here. This content requires the Adobe Flash Player. Get Flash" 16:51 wizzyrea well, that about answers that 16:51 slef It's not FLOSS for the client. 16:51 slef Actually, might be. I can try it with my browser that has the Gnash plugin later. 16:51 wizzyrea indeed... when are we gonna kick this flash habit we've got going 16:51 slef but that's on another floor just now 16:51 wizzyrea we=the interwebs and it's denizens 16:51 wizzyrea np np 16:52 slef yeah, I was lamenting elsewhere that video is a solved problem, so why don't any webinar tools seem to use one of those solutions yet 16:52 slef I think it's probably a tribute to the perceived ease of "just use adobe". 17:14 drulms Hello all 17:15 oleonard Hi drulms 17:18 drulms Everything ready for 3.2.3 - everything, SIP too ! 17:18 drulms But not the public facing Z39.50 17:18 drulms My config is: 17:18 drulms <listen id="publicserver" >tcp:@:2100</listen> 17:19 drulms In koha-conf.xml, but I get this error when trying to connect through the zebra-client: 17:19 drulms Z> open localhost:2100/biblios Connecting...OK. Sent initrequest. Connection rejected by v3 target. ID : 81 Name : GFS/YAZ Version: 4.1.3 3ec3ad2bd1e248022bbb7c9d762844bef7f8a461 Init response contains 1 otherInfo unit: 1: otherInfo unit contains 1 diagnostic: 1: code=1 (Permanent system error), addinfo='' Options: search present triggerResourceC 17:20 drulms Connection rejected by v4 target ??? Anyone know what any of this means? 17:20 magnuse drulms: could it be related to this: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5667 ? 17:20 huginn 04Bug 5667: minor, P5, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED, koha-conf.xml missing entry for z39.50 publicserver 17:21 wizzyrea oh that could def be it, no server but a listening ID 17:21 drulms I added the <listen id="publicserver" >tcp:@:2100</listen> (and commented it out) and restarted zebra - still no dice 17:22 drulms should there be a way for me to fix it? 17:23 drulms zebra search works fine 17:23 drulms from Koha 17:25 wizzyrea right, that's outgoing 17:25 drulms So it should work, correct? 17:27 hudsonbot Starting build 98 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 17:35 huginn New commit(s) kohagit32: Fix for Bug 5716 - Whitespace correction for browse shelf <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6588e313bb9316bdc8b75cf72c5d609dda6f9844> / Bug 3009 - Change items.content field so it prints due date by default <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=880bc46a9f7526c23bc6ac359b9000b94f9d6aa1> / Add markers to text in Javascript variable in order to be translate. <http://g 17:35 magnuse drulms: it's been a while since i did it, but i seem to remember having to copy both <server id="biblioserver" listenref="biblioserver">...</server> and <serverinfo id="biblioserver">...</serverinfo> and then replacing those three occurences of "biblioserver" with "publicserver" so you get <server id="publicserver" listenref="publicserver">...</server> and <serverinfo id="publicserver">...</serverinfo> 17:36 magnuse and then restart zebra 17:36 drulms hmmmm, so I wonder if anyone has the Z39.50 public server working in Koha 3.2? 17:37 drulms magnuse: I suppose I can try that 17:37 jcamins drulms: it works on master, certainly. 17:38 magnuse drulms: good luck, i gotta run :-) 17:38 drulms jacmins: on master? 17:38 drulms magnuse: Thank you! 17:45 drulms jcamins: This makes the Z39.50 server work, but now the Koha search does not work ! :) 17:45 drulms (after restarting zebra) 17:45 drulms heh 17:46 jcamins drulms: Hm. 17:46 jcamins I know it can be done. 17:48 drulms jcamins: Authority searching works however 17:48 jcamins Ooh! I think I might know this one... change the port? 17:48 drulms So it seems like a one or the other thing 17:48 drulms I changed the port to 2100 17:48 drulms is that the probs? 17:49 jcamins I'm not sure. I wouldn't think that port would be a problem. 17:49 jcamins sekjal: welcome back. We're troubleshooting a Zebra server that won't work with both public Zebra and Koha at the same time. 17:49 sekjal which server 17:50 jcamins drulms' 3.2. 17:50 jcamins drulms: which version of 3.2? 17:50 sekjal I have a suspicion 17:50 hudsonbot Project Koha_3.2.x build #98: SUCCESS in 23 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.2.x/98/ 17:50 hudsonbot * Colin Campbell: Bug 2742 Correct language names in install 17:50 hudsonbot * Chris Nighswonger: Updating Version Number to 3.02.03.002 17:50 hudsonbot * Fr?d?rick Capovilla: Bug 5616: Corrects an utf-8 encoding problem in cardviews 17:50 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Bug 2742 : Fix typo 17:50 hudsonbot * Paul Poulain: Bug 5718 : fix permission of moveitem = edit_items needed 17:50 hudsonbot * Paul Poulain: Bug 5726 : MT1059 Follow-up : Fix merge reference selection presentation 17:50 hudsonbot * Paul Poulain: adding some copyright BibLibre statements 17:50 hudsonbot * Brice Sanchez: Bug 5702 : Adding if statement condition to highlight toggle 17:50 hudsonbot * koha-preprod: Bug 5629 : Adding an HTML anchor in the link in order to choose the right tab when we click on the link 17:50 hudsonbot * koha-preprod: Add markers to text in Javascript variable in order to be translate. 17:50 hudsonbot * Katrin Fischer: Bug 3009 - Change items.content field so it prints due date by default 17:50 hudsonbot * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5716 - Whitespace correction for browse shelf 17:50 sekjal would need to see the koha-conf.xml to confirm 17:52 drulms 3.2.3 of course :) 17:52 sekjal does the <serverinfo> tag after the <server id="publicserver"> also have id="publicserver"? 17:53 sekjal I know when I implemented open Z39.50, it was a massive copy/paste job from the regular biblioserver, and I didn't make that change at first. 17:55 drulms OK, I got it! 17:55 drulms Ah, sekjal answered my question 17:55 sekjal that was it? 17:56 drulms I just copied the entire biblioserver block with the serverinfo block and then renamed the 3 tags to public server 17:56 sekjal huzzah! 18:05 drulms I mean publicserver (one word) 18:08 fcapo hum... I got a problem when fetching records from a Canadian Z39.50 server. Accented characters are returned incorrectly :/ 18:08 fcapo For example, I receive eÌ when I should have é 18:08 jcamins fcapo: those look the same to me. 18:08 jcamins e-with-acute 18:09 fcapo yea, but the first one is a non-zebra searchable, decomposed version of the accented character 18:09 jcamins Ah. Right. That. 18:10 jcamins It seems that ICU chains is the best solution to searchable diacritics. Unfortunately I can't give you instructions on setting them up. 18:11 fcapo When we did our first record import, we did a conversion on our records with MarcEdit to get composed accented characters (canonical composition) 18:11 drulms fcapo - thank I cannot help with 18:11 drulms thanks everyone - have a good one(s) 18:13 fcapo I might be able modify Koha so that it does the canonical composition on the Z39.50 search results. But I don't know if it would be a good idea. 18:14 jcamins fcapo: I think the conclusion was that it wouldn't be a good idea. 18:14 jcamins Because Zebra lies about what sort of data it's returning. 18:14 fcapo :( 18:15 sekjal ICU chains would let you search 'e' and get 'é' 18:15 sekjal whether the marc record is normalized for composition or decomposition, that's not dealt with 18:16 fcapo ok... but the non-composed version of the characters look strange in the browser. And copy-pasting these characters and putting them in a search might not work 18:16 sekjal but searching in Zebra is just much nicer with ICU chains 18:17 sekjal fcapo: yes 18:17 fcapo I don't know how our client's old system did it, but the accented characters were shown correctly while they were stored in non-composed format 18:18 sekjal we'd need to normalize the marc before displaying it... good, but much more difficult than to implement than ICU chains 18:21 fcapo Right now, we did the normalization with MarcEdit before passing them to bulkmarcimport and it's working fine... 18:21 fcapo The only problem is when a user wants to create a new records from Z39.50 :/ 18:22 cait not sure where this discussion started - but sounds very familiar 18:22 jcamins cait: feeling a sense of deja vu? 18:22 jcamins :) 18:22 cait yep 18:23 cait I think I was really getting on peoples nerves with my normalization issues 18:23 jcamins You think _you_ were? It's a miracle Ian still speaks to me with all my whining. ;) 18:23 cait fcapo: we do the same, normalize before import, z3950 is a problem (german umlauts), but our records are always overwritten through nightly imports - so the problem is temporary. 18:23 cait it would be great if the records could be normalized during import 18:24 fcapo One of my coworker might have asked the same questions a while ago too, that's how we got the MarcEdit normalization idea. 18:24 cait it's a common problem I think 18:24 cait if I understood you right and we are talking about unicode normalization forms 18:24 sekjal aside from current Code4Lib presentation: compass-style.org.... for maintaining CSS with logic 18:25 fcapo yep 18:25 cait the problem we have with umluats is wrong display in the browser 18:26 fcapo Right now we have a problem with new records from Z39.50 searchs being non-searchable because of decomposed accented characters. 18:26 cait and we have still problems with ß and other diacritics - still not sure if the problem is on side of union catalog or koha 18:26 cait fcapo: right 18:26 jcamins Do we have a list of new features that have been developed since Koha 3.2.0 was released? 18:26 fcapo and they also look wrong :P 18:27 cait fcapo: I think there is no solution in koha for that right now - and it's one of the reasons I think solving it for display is not enough 18:27 cait having only one form in the database is preferable 18:27 fcapo cait : yes, that's my goal 18:28 cait jcamins: I think not - I started one with new features, but lost track 18:28 cait jcamins: perhaps nicole? she updated the documentation for some things 18:29 jcamins cait: that's what I thought. Thanks. So much happened that we lost track, too. 18:31 cait i have three items on my list :( 18:32 cait * new text block in opac for no results page 18:32 cait * ppn in acq 18:32 cait ppn = control number 18:33 cait * control-number as parameter in the opac search box 18:33 cait not much 18:34 fcapo I think I'll just try to use Unicode::Normalize on my Z39.50 search results. Don't have much to lose. 18:34 jcamins Ooh, thanks, forgot about the no results page. 18:35 cait jcamins: :) 18:49 rangi Morning 18:50 rhcl hi rangi 18:50 cait hi rangi 18:56 fcapo Ok, using SetUTF8Flag on the every record returned by the Z39.50 search does fix my problem. 18:56 cait will you send a patch? 18:57 fcapo Dunno, I'm unsure it's a good solution 19:00 cait me neither - but I would like to test it for our records :) 19:00 rangi How about adding an isutf8 test 19:00 rangi Before setting the flag 19:01 fcapo Well, its right after a call to MarcToUTF8Record... 19:01 gmcharlt indeed 19:01 fcapo The record is already UTF8, I just use that subroutine because it does the normalization on every subfield of the record. 19:03 rangi why not do it in the subroutine then? 19:03 rangi Ie if you are getting back an incorrect record from that sub 19:04 rangi Do we have a normalisesubfields syspref? 19:05 fcapo rangi : do it in which subroutine? 19:05 rangi MarcToUTF8Record 19:06 cait rangi: no sysprefs about unicode normalization 19:07 rangi Maybe if we think there might be a reason not to normalise we could do that, but is suspect we always want normalised unicode, but I'm not 100% on that 19:08 * rangi is on the bus before his morning coffee 19:08 rangi So I might be talking rubbish 19:09 cait we always want it - not sure about ohter languages 19:09 cait we do it on the import side from the beginning 19:09 fcapo rango :Well, I'm not 100% sure we always want normalized unicode, that's why I didn't touch the MarcToUTF8Record sub. 19:10 * sekjal just load tested his dev box.... very discouraging 19:10 fcapo ^^^ rangi* sorry 19:10 rangi How about adding a switch then, normalise 19:10 rangi If you pass that in, it normalises 19:11 rangi then if there is a place we don't want it, we don't pass that 19:11 * rangi just doesn't like big .pl files 19:11 rangi All the work should be in .pm 19:15 rangi @wunder wellington nz 19:15 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0�C (8:00 AM NZDT on February 10, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). 19:15 rangi Gonna be a nice day 19:19 rangi Bbiab 19:20 cait @wunder Konstanz 19:20 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 1.0�C (8:00 PM CET on February 09, 2011). Conditions: Heavy Fog. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Rising). 19:23 druthb Off to break, then breakouts! 19:26 Brooke_ kia ora! 19:26 wizzyrea hi brooke :) 19:26 cait hi Brooke 19:29 fcapo Is there a place where I could send experimental patches like the Z39.50 modification I just made? 19:30 jcamins koha-patches 19:30 jcamins Just include in the commit message notes on your concerns. 19:33 fcapo Is there any help on how to send patches to koha-patchs? Never used a mailing list before :S 19:33 wizzyrea git? 19:33 wahanui freaking rules 19:33 wizzyrea ^^ wow, that's funny 19:34 wizzyrea http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git 19:34 wizzyrea sending patches is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git 19:34 wizzyrea sending patches? 19:34 wahanui sending patches is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git 19:35 jcamins wahanui: well done! 19:35 wahanui jcamins: what? 19:35 fcapo Thank you and sorry for my ignorance. 19:35 jcamins fcapo: you need to be subscribed to the mailing list for your message to go through. 19:45 * Brooke_ waves to hdl 19:53 jcamins Does Koha work with FastCGI? 20:02 * Brooke_ waves to space_librarian. 20:02 space_librarian morning! 20:03 * space_librarian blinks into her cup of coffee 20:03 ibeardslee empty? 20:03 space_librarian half full going to need a refill already 20:04 * ibeardslee really does need to learn how to do decent coffee from our machines 20:04 Brooke_ or you could get a one cup at a time jobby 20:04 Brooke_ those are saweet 20:05 Brooke_ and they are verbooten in me house with good reason 20:05 ibeardslee because they are only one cup at a time? 20:06 space_librarian one cup? like those nespresso thingymabobs 20:06 Brooke_ no because they fab such a nice cuppa, I'd be wired 24/7 20:07 space_librarian mmmm.... good coffee. 20:08 jcamins rangi: do you know anything about how the Koha packages configure Apache? 20:09 jcamins Apparently Apache on my VM is using way less memory than Apache on our servers. 20:09 jcamins Like, an order of magnitude less. 20:16 eythian jcamins: it's me you probably want to talk to about that 20:17 eythian but they don't really do anything funny 20:17 jcamins eythian: Wonderful! 20:17 jcamins Oh. 20:17 eythian the most funny is that they install the per-user thingamie 20:17 jcamins You didn't disable particularly wasteful thing? 20:17 eythian it's too early for me to remember what it's called 20:17 * eythian checks 20:17 cait eythian = new nick ? 20:18 eythian cait: oh yeah 20:18 eythian new channel, but I was already on this server with this nick 20:18 eythian and can't be arsed making two connections just for nick reasons. 20:18 rangi its a dfferent apache 20:18 rangi thats the main different 20:18 rangi gah 20:18 rangi difference 20:18 wahanui difference is, like, merely that 008 uses defined value lists and 260 $a is merely transcribed from the material 20:19 eythian jcamins: apache2-mpm-itk 20:19 jcamins Uh-oh. Where did my data go? 20:19 rangi yup, so that each virtual host can run as a different user 20:19 eythian famous last words... 20:19 * jcamins bangs his head against the desk. 20:20 jcamins Anyway, thanks. I thought our servers were using that same Apache, but maybe not. 20:20 eythian mpm-* is pretty much the same as the regular mpm, but allows for different system users. 20:21 rangi i doubt you other ones are using itk 20:21 rangi most likely worker 20:21 eythian *mpm-itk I mean 20:21 jcamins We were just talking about seeing if worker was more efficient than itk, but maybe we had it backwards. 20:22 jcamins Data's back. :D 20:22 eythian jcamins: on a modern server, the difference should be negligible. 20:22 jcamins InnoDB couldn't start with only 384MB/RAM. 20:22 eythian oh ah 20:22 rangi you need itk to be safe 20:22 rangi hosting more than one koha 20:23 eythian There's been a request to allow it to not use itk, but I'm not sure how I'd make that work so that it worked properly in both cases. 20:24 rangi oh who requested that? 20:24 jcamins Wait... where's my data? 20:24 * jcamins sighs 20:24 rangi youd probably have to disable the multi functions 20:24 eythian s/Wait/Dude/ 20:24 rangi make 2 different packages 20:24 rangi would be the only way i could think of doing it 20:24 eythian rangi: e.s. rosenberg 20:24 rangi koha-multi 20:24 rangi koha-single 20:24 irmaB g'day all 20:24 rangi something like that 20:25 rangi never heard of them 20:25 eythian rangi: well, it'd be a different template really. The zebra users could stay, but the apache template would blow up on non-itk I think 20:25 Brooke_ g'day Irma :D 20:25 rangi eythian: yeah 20:26 irmaB Brooke hi there :) 20:26 rangi heya Nate_ 20:26 rangi hi irmaB 20:26 irmaB is chris_n still online? 20:27 irmaB hi rangi (what was the score last night) Wellington vs Sydney? 20:27 chris_n troubleshooting memory errors in a servers ipmi log, but here for a moment 20:28 slef hi irmaB 20:28 * sijobl wonders if Irma is just rubbing it in 20:28 sijobl we've got a football team for sale, all reasonable offers considered :-) 20:28 irmaB ah thanks chris_n ...about barcode labels: where can I change the batch limit of 20? 20:29 irmaB re football nah ...just curious 20:29 sijobl 2-0 to sydney was what I recall hearing in the radio 20:30 sijobl might have been 2-1 20:30 chris_n irmaB: as in items per batch or total number of batches? 20:30 irmaB no wonder not a peep was heard from my lounge :( 20:30 irmaB items per bath 20:30 chris_n afaik there is none 20:30 irmaB batch 20:31 * chris_n is looking at batches of over 40 items as we chat 20:31 irmaB 20 keeps on popping up when i create a new batch 20:31 chris_n are you referring to the batch ID? 20:32 * cait waves to chrisdothall 20:32 chris_n more_chrises++ 20:33 chris_n never mind the spelling :) 20:33 irmaB no, @ "add new items" 20:34 slef they appear in pages of 20 20:34 chris_n ahh 20:34 slef and yes, it's rather irritating :) 20:34 chris_n that is a limitation of the search code which I did not write, only inherited and have tweaked from time to time 20:35 irmaB Results 1 through 20 of 70 20:35 slef as in, I get complaints and hack it around, but not in any neat enough way for a patch. Not checked if that's still in 3.2 20:35 chris_n but I believe there is a bug open for it 20:35 irmaB and yet when I print only 20 print 20:35 chris_n basically 20:35 chris_n you have to page through the results and add all on each page... I think 20:35 slef irmaB: you're doing "add all" and it only adds those on-screen, right? 20:35 slef chris_n: that's correct, at least in 3.0 20:36 cait and hi Irmab :) 20:36 chris_n the same basic search code is used in 3.2 20:36 chris_n cait scared her 20:37 cait no I didn't 20:37 chris_n wb irmaB 20:37 cait hi IrmaB :) 20:37 cait but can correct the typo now :) 20:37 irmaB hi again 20:37 irmaB hi cait :) 20:37 Brooke_ everyone <3s irmaB 20:38 irmaB slef yes I select all but only 20 print (should be 70) 20:39 slef irmaB: select all = select the visible, sadly 20:39 chris_n irmaB: basically you have to: 'select all,' 'add checked,' next page, 'select all,' 'add checked,' ad infinitum 20:40 slef chris_n: you near finding that bug number or shall I? 20:40 chris_n looking 20:40 * Brooke_ waves to davi before heading to a meeting 20:40 irmaB ok. Got it chris_n thanks. Will give it a try. 20:41 chris_n bug 5656 20:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5656 normal, P5, ---, cnighswonger, NEW, Add Checked only adding first checked item to batch 20:41 davi hi Brooke_ 20:41 irmaB waves goodbye to Brooke 20:41 davi hi rangi 20:41 slef chris_n: either that's missummarised or a different bug :( 20:42 slef chris_n: looks like a different bug 20:42 chris_n ? 20:42 slef "when I press the 'Add Checked' button on the top of that page only the first item is being added to the batch" 20:42 rangi hi davi 20:42 irmaB thanks slef and saw your email. Will answer after breakfat :) 20:42 slef irmaB: thanks 20:42 rangi davi: i have hte perfect patch for you to sign off on ;) 20:42 davi great :) 20:42 chris_n slef: is that not the problem irmaB was describing? 20:43 davi let me know rangi 20:43 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5682 20:43 huginn 04Bug 5682: minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, POD in C4::Charset was wrong 20:43 slef chris_n: no and not the problem you were describing either :) 20:43 davi thanks rangi. Looking 20:43 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sign_off_on_patches 20:43 * chris_n is totally unfocused atm... sorry ;-) 20:44 chris_n a file server with memory issues has me slightly distracted 20:44 slef chris_n: no problem. I'm trying to do two things at once and failing to spot the bug irmaB describes in bugs either. 20:44 slef chris_n: is it making you forgetful? ;-) 20:44 davi ack rangi 20:44 chris_n LOL 20:44 chris_n no, that is probably an age related problem... ;-) 20:45 slef Actually, I don't think this bug is reported. :-( I'll see if it's in the RESOLVEDs and so on... 20:47 slef no, I can't find it at all... I fail :-( 20:57 irmaB slef do you want me to report it? 20:58 irmaB Also, an other attemp to add the library's name above the barcode number failed. 20:59 slef irmaB: yes, please, as long as chris_n doesn't object 21:01 irmaB in Bibliographic data to print, I choose : "items.homebranch items.barcode" in List Fields. 21:02 irmaB in new layout 21:02 slef I don't know about that. I've not played with the new labeller enough. 21:02 slef I used to hack the 3.0 one into submission. 21:02 irmaB chris_n perhaps? 21:03 irmaB yep that one way :) 21:04 davi I am creating my account and bugs.koha-community 21:04 davi rangi, about that patch I would say it is OK. I will review it a little more and then I will sign it 21:04 rangi excellent 21:04 rangi http://koha-releasemanagement.branchable.com/ 21:05 rangi there is a link there 21:05 rangi patches needing signoff 21:05 rangi anything in there is fair game :) 21:05 slef Does anyone know what "Permanent Flag" means to a library? (bbl, sorry) 21:09 space_librarian usually means when something is scanned a note will pop-up, and it can't be edited. like "this item cannot be checked out", etc. 21:10 space_librarian that's how we used it in circ anyway... 21:17 davi rangi, I have not got the email about account creation yet 21:18 rangi account where? 21:19 davi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/createaccount.cgi 21:21 rangi email is weird, theres about a million reasons why you may not have got it yet 21:21 davi I created it with email david AT leals.com 21:22 davi after trying 21:23 davi Reset password and getting the message: There is no user named ' david AT leals dot com'. Either you mis-typed the name or that user has not yet registered for a Bugzilla account. 21:23 davi Any hint? 21:25 rangi no idea, seesm to work for everyone else 21:26 davi ok, I am going to try with another email 21:31 davi Now I have just got two email, one for each account creating. I will confirm only one 22:24 wizzyrea koha does age calculations on the fly, correct? 22:26 wizzyrea and/or SIP Doesn't send age if asked, right? 22:30 gmcharlt wizzyrea: I think it just sends the birthdate, leaving it up to the SIP consumer to do the calculation 22:30 wizzyrea aha, interesting 22:31 wizzyrea I wonder if envisionware understands that, their code asks for "age" 22:31 wizzyrea apparently 22:32 wizzyrea from what I can grasp given that I can't actually look at it 22:38 wizzyrea oh that's nice, the sip sends "greetings from koha" 22:38 wizzyrea very cute :) 22:45 slef space_librarian: thanks. I've got both Permanent and Circulate flags though :-/ 22:46 space_librarian then it'll be permanant mark-ups like "this books has been stolen/pages are missing/etc" 22:46 space_librarian this book... sp 22:47 slef it's just a flag, Y or N :-/ I think I'll map it to damaged 22:47 slef no, restricted 22:47 slef if that's wrong, we'll rectify later :) 22:58 jcamins Good night, #koha 22:58 * mtj waves from the sunny coast 23:00 space_librarian that sounds suitably logical 23:11 rangi its pizza thursday! 23:11 rangi bbl 23:11 space_librarian bbl. Time to embarrass myself... 23:12 mtj go get 'em ;)