IRC log for #koha, 2010-11-07

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00:12 Brooke yo
01:17 chris_n @wunder 28334
01:17 munin chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 3.1�C (9:29 PM EDT on November 06, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 0.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1012.8 hPa (Rising). Freeze warning in effect from 2 am to 8 am EST Sunday...
01:31 brendan_l @wunder 93117
01:31 munin brendan_l: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 16.3�C (6:44 PM PDT on November 06, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017.2 hPa (Steady).
01:31 brendan_l I'd be surprised to see a Freeze warning here ;)
02:11 Brooke stupid colloquy didn't bounce on meh
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02:32 Brooke ahoy hoy
02:32 wizzyrea_ hiyas
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03:58 wizzyrea_ @later tell nengard[…]koha3-2manual.pdf
03:58 munin wizzyrea_: The operation succeeded.
04:24 bigbrovar Hi guys I am trying to setup koha 3.2 on debian following this wiki[…]ebian#Quick_Start .  am told to edit /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf which does not exist.
04:25 robin bigbrovar: yeah, that's something I was trying to fix in hackfest weekend, but didn't get enough time for :/
04:26 robin I'll send you an example
04:26 bigbrovar Thanks :)
04:27 robin
04:27 robin ^-- bigbrovar
04:29 bigbrovar robin: so I would create a /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf  file and populate it with the info you posted?
04:30 robin yep
04:31 robin anything else you find, be sure to update the wiki with. The packages still need a lot of polish that I hope to find some time for in the near future.
04:32 bigbrovar would it be easier to just install koha from source? that was what I did when I installed the current koha 3.0 which is running pretty well
04:32 bigbrovar I am just thinking of migrating us to 3.2
04:33 bigbrovar will sure update the wiki when am done
04:33 robin I'm not sure, I focus on the packages as that's what we run here, but we have a handful of custom addons that glue it all together.
04:34 robin So it's only been relatively recently that I've been testing the packages without those addons in order to get them more useful for people at large.
04:34 wizzyrea_ bigbrovar: the packages are very new, it may be easier for you to install the "old" way
04:34 wizzyrea_ well, not easier, but at least familiar
04:35 robin that's a good point.
04:35 wizzyrea_ i can'tfreakingwait until the packages are matured to where it's really sudo apt-get install koha
04:35 bigbrovar hmmm
04:36 robin I very nearly have it so installing the koha package has a koha instance just spring up and everything works, but after the hackfest we ended up so busy catching up that I haven't had time to finish that work.
04:36 bigbrovar well I am already kneel deep into this one already
04:36 wizzyrea_ robin: that's so super great
04:36 bigbrovar It would be easier to see this through and see where it leads documenting and improving the wiki all the way. than go and start from stratch
04:37 robin bigbrovar: if you do, that would be great :) anything that seems like a bug, feel free to make a ticket on it too. Anything filed under the 'packaging' section goes to me.
04:37 bigbrovar ok
05:02 bigbrovar robin:  Iam done setting up koha (or I should think) following the readme in /usr/share/doc/koha/README.Debian and  am now on the koha installer webpage.  I just need some clearification concerning this part of the wiki  which talks about using the koha-create script. should I do that before completing the installtion from localhost:8080 ?
05:03 robin if you're on the installer webpage, you don't need to use koha-create.
05:04 bigbrovar thanks
05:06 bigbrovar robin:  one more thing (I am really trying to do it right :) ) according to the wiki the koha-create script "create a new koha catalogue called 'mylibrary', create and populate the database for it, set up zebra, and configure Apache appropriately"  I hope the installer webpage does same in other words there is are no advantage to using the script over the installer webpage?
05:07 robin in your case, that's correct.
05:07 robin I also need to clarify that, as it's the case that if you provide a default .sql for the database, then the scripts can use that, but if you don't, then it'll run through the web installer.
05:08 bigbrovar Thanks very much ..
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05:31 cait hi #koha
05:32 robin hi
05:35 cait hi robin :)
05:35 cait it's still sunday for you, right?
05:36 robin yep
05:36 robin I'm trying to make some stuff work before it's monday.
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05:44 cait good luck :)
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05:46 robin ta, almost done
05:46 robin heh: "Unknown language: Latim"
05:46 robin yes, I can see that being wrong.
05:49 cait heh
05:50 cait you never know, koha is translated to a lot of languages I never heard of before
05:51 robin that might be true, although I'm not aware of a Latin translation, let alone the little-known sibling language, "Latim."
05:53 chris i still need to get brian's friend to do the klingon Opac
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05:56 cait yeah, that would be really cool
05:56 cait is there a way I can send a patch file with git-email as attachment? or make it stop about a too long line another way?
05:57 cait I have fixed the references to in various files
05:58 robin cait: what is it complaining about?
05:59 robin you can attach the patch file to an email, but I'm curious to see why git-email is unhappy.
06:00 cait I will use the web client
06:00 chris it doesnt like lines that are too long
06:00 chris for patches like that, i send a pull request
06:00 chris which you can do, now you have a public repo :0
06:00 chris :)
06:01 cait fatal: 0001-Bug-5370-Fix-references-to-​ 25: patch contains a line longer than 998 characters
06:01 cait warning: no patches were sent
06:01 cait chris... urgs :)
06:01 cait ok, I can try to do that, have to look at my notes first
06:02 cait I think the problem is caused by the sql files - I fixed the example news links
06:02 cait and the statements are all in one line
06:03 chris yeah
06:04 robin ah right
06:05 cait chris: ok, I have a branch now in my public repo ([…]ts/ how do I make the pull request?
06:07 chris ahh
06:07 chris 2 secs
06:08 cait hm?
06:08 cait a lot of aahs :)
06:09 chris git.koha-community is your origin eh?
06:09 cait yes
06:09 robin chris: while you're here, any idea why: delete from biblio join items on biblio.biblionumber=items.biblionumber where ccode='Actinidia'; doesn't work? The equivalent select seems to.
06:09 cait and github is github
06:10 * cait wonders if you can make a join in a delete - never tried that
06:11 robin it doesn't like the syntax of the join.
06:11 robin so maybe you can't, which would be a pain.
06:12 robin maybe I need to make it into a select and apply that to the delete
06:12 robin can't do that either. May need a temp table.
06:13 cait I have no data in my database to try it
06:13 cait is it a one time thing?
06:14 chris try this cait
06:15 robin yeah, I'm trying to delete some stuff I just imported, and they all have a unique ccode in the items table, but I want to delete the biblios.
06:16 cait and keep the items?
06:16 cait you could get the biblio numbers first and build a sql statement with that
06:17 cait we did that in horizon sometimes, so that the result of the query were delete statements for every number we needed, because some things allowed only deleting of one line at a time
06:17 robin no, delete the items too, but that'll happen automatically
06:17 cait chris: you ok?
06:18 chris no, i have children
06:18 cait ah,make sure you have not checked out something
06:18 robin chris: was just about to say that :)
06:18 cait but you have cute children, could be worse :)
06:18 robin there we go:
06:18 robin create temporary table to_delete as select biblio.biblionumber from biblio join items on biblio.biblionumber=items.biblionumber where ccode='Actinidia';
06:19 cait issues and old_issues will not get deleted
06:19 chris just send an email, saying Pull Request
06:19 chris then in the body
06:19 chris put
06:19 robin cait: that's OK, this is a database for migration testing, but currently I have two different sources in it.
06:19 chris git://
06:19 chris branch
06:20 chris that'll work just fine
06:20 cait robin: ust a warning :) because I ended up with itemnumber = null a lot of times and had to delete them to clean the accounts
06:21 cait chris: and sending a manual pull request mail is better than sending it as an attachment? :)
06:23 chris yes, lots better
06:23 chris because its a ton easier for me to apply
06:23 robin of course, now I know that it would have been faster to delete everything and re-import, even accounting for the working-it-out time.
06:23 cait hm done
06:23 chris ta
06:24 robin alternately, I maybe should have put an index on that temp table.
06:24 cait and as you are here.... there are a lot of references to in the xslt files to a not existing url - not sure what to do with that
06:35 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5370: Fix references to and other old websites <[…]dfc0d233727a4011d>
06:37 cait chris: that was fast :) hope I made no spelling errors
06:38 chris :)
06:38 chris well, there was nothing that broke the tests, or broke the sql
06:38 chris so safe to push
06:38 robin awesome, think I'm all done here, and the client can spend the week looking over it.
06:39 chris yay!
06:40 robin and my little "turn a CSV into marc records" script has mutated into a 1,228-line monster :)
06:40 robin of the densest perl I think I've every written.
06:41 chris heh, reckon time to make it a module?
06:42 robin Just about, yeah. The latest round of changes have required some refectoring that would make that a bit easier, too.
06:43 chris i wonder if its almost to the point its worth thinking about cpanning it
06:43 cait :)
06:44 cait now you can work on making all messages go through the message_queue
06:44 * cait hides
06:44 robin hmm, I don't know if that would work: it hooks into Koha so that it can read the database to work out things like field name to MARC field mappings.
06:44 robin cait: oh yeah. That :)
06:44 chris ahh true
06:47 robin didn't get to work on my presentation after that :/ might have to do that tomorrow evening.
06:58 cait what is your presentation about?
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08:11 cait hi mason :)
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08:31 cait < can't find it :(
08:53 wasabi heya cait
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09:47 magnus aloha wasabi!
10:09 cait hi magnus
10:09 cait how is bode?
10:09 wasabi heyas, just sorting out my irc-proxies...
10:11 magnus hi cait
10:11 magnus bod� is snowing! airport is closed - i got home just in time...
10:12 magnus @wunder bodo, norway
10:12 munin magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -1.0�C (11:20 AM CET on November 07, 2010). Conditions: Light Snow Showers. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -2.0�C. Windchill: -4.0�C. Pressure: 29.27 in 991 hPa (Steady).
10:22 cait ah good
10:22 cait not the snow, but that it waited until you were home
10:33 magnus yup ;-)
10:34 cait we have rain here today
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17:50 cait hi #koha
17:50 wizzyrea_ hey cait
17:50 cait hi liz :)
17:53 * cait is happy to be home
17:53 cait getting chilly out there
17:53 cait @wunder Konstanz
17:53 munin cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 5.0�C (7:00 PM CET on November 07, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Pressure: 29.61 in 1003 hPa (Rising).
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18:40 chris Morning
18:41 cait morning chris
18:42 chris Heya cait
18:45 chris_n @wunder 28334
18:45 munin chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 13.1�C (1:59 PM EST on November 07, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 15%. Dew Point: -13.0�C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1012.8 hPa (Steady).
18:46 chris cait: will push your other patches today, most likely
18:46 chris Hi chris_n
18:46 cait chris_n: started configuration to test it, but not sure it will work on my laptop, perhaps at work tomorrow
18:46 cait chris: no hurry, hope they are ok
18:47 cait there are only a few references left now
18:47 chris They looked fine
18:47 cait but there are a lot of references in the po files
18:47 chris Ah yeah
18:48 chris I must chat to fredericd about that
18:48 chris Translations in general
18:49 chris_n cait: sounds great, tnx
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18:50 chris Hi paul_p
18:51 cait chris: tell me if I can fix them - but would prefer something not involving pootle ;)
18:52 chris Well I'm no longer translation dude :) I'm hoping to turn off my pootle when fredericd is ready to go
18:53 cait yeah, but perhaps we can fix and upload them or fredericd can fix them in bulk
18:53 chris Yep sed will fix them all in one hit
18:53 wizzyrea_ sed++
18:54 chris But the translation tool is gonna be rewritten by the student who starts today
18:54 cait cool :)
18:54 chris As part of the change to TT
18:54 chris The trick is to do it so we don't have to retranslate
18:55 cait RETRANSLATE?!
18:55 cait that would take weeks
18:55 chris Yep, that's why I said so we don't have to
18:56 cait ok
18:57 chris its also why I don't want to redesign the templates for 3.4
18:57 chris If we start moving stuff all round
18:58 cait a lot of things to retranslate
18:58 cait hm right
18:58 chris And changing to TT we'd def have to retranslate
18:58 chris One thing at a time
18:58 chris Kaizen
18:58 cait I like that
18:58 cait :)
19:01 chris Ok my stop bbiab
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19:32 chris back
19:34 richard hi chris
19:42 cait good night all
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19:50 wizzyrea_ woot: (yay, pdf!)
19:50 chris :)
19:50 richard cool stuff
19:56 chris it even works !
19:58 chris well done you!
19:58 chris wizzyrea++
20:10 chris_n wizzyrea++ # nice work
20:31 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_5370' into kcmaster <[…]72186f41ef829d741> / Bug 5370: Fix all the references to <[…]cd1946500bf576065> / Bug 5370: Fix all references to <[…]mitdiff;h=9f688ad
20:57 robin wasabi: http://weirdinwellington.tumbl[…]-flawless-victory
20:57 robin you're world famous in Wellington! :)
21:00 chris :)
21:09 chris_n if I read right, we have 81 commits on 3.2.x since 3.2.0
21:10 chris try git --oneline commit_id..HEAD
21:10 chris on the branch
21:10 chris that will tell you for sure :)
21:17 chris_n acutally, the post-receive script keeps track in the subject line
21:17 chris_n ie. 3.2.x, updated. v3.02.00-81
21:17 chris_n the -81
21:17 chris_n which git log confirms as correct :)
21:19 chris cool :)
21:19 chris_n the way things are going 3.2.1 will be a whopper of an update
21:23 chris yeah if people keep fixing things :)
21:23 chris i'm mostly caught up now
21:25 chris http://koha-releasemanagement.[…]ushed_2_November/ was the big day
21:29 wasabi robin: its the pink-helmet that enrages people ;)
21:30 wasabi by then, they've already seen me - mission accomplished...
21:30 chris :)
21:33 robin wasabi: I approve of your reasoning :)
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23:34 brendan_l @wunder 93117
23:34 munin brendan_l: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 16.7�C (3:49 PM PST on November 07, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018.2 hPa (Steady). Wind Advisory in effect from 6 am Monday to 3 am PST Tuesday...
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