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23:34 munin     brendan_l: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 16.7�C (3:49 PM PST on November 07, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018.2 hPa (Steady).  Wind Advisory in effect from 6 am Monday to 3 am PST Tuesday... 
23:34 brendan_l @wunder 93117
21:33 robin     wasabi: I approve of your reasoning :)
21:30 chris     :)
21:30 wasabi    by then, they've already seen me - mission accomplished...
21:29 wasabi    robin: its the pink-helmet that enrages people ;)
21:25 chris     http://koha-releasemanagement.branchable.com/posts/Patches_pushed_2_November/ was the big day
21:23 chris     i'm mostly caught up now
21:23 chris     yeah if people keep fixing things :)
21:19 chris_n   the way things are going 3.2.1 will be a whopper of an update
21:19 chris     cool :)
21:17 chris_n   which git log confirms as correct :)
21:17 chris_n   the -81
21:17 chris_n   ie. 3.2.x, updated. v3.02.00-81
21:17 chris_n   acutally, the post-receive script keeps track in the subject line
21:10 chris     that will tell you for sure :)
21:10 chris     on the branch
21:10 chris     try git --oneline commit_id..HEAD
21:09 chris_n   if I read right, we have 81 commits on 3.2.x since 3.2.0
21:00 chris     :)
20:57 robin     you're world famous in Wellington! :)
20:57 robin     wasabi: http://weirdinwellington.tumblr.com/post/1377609988/fashion-camp-2010-flawless-victory
20:31 munin     New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_5370' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4a86a4de8c2fd0cb788d21172186f41ef829d741> / Bug 5370: Fix all the references to koha.org <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6df634855cc62a5f31b419ecd1946500bf576065> / Bug 5370: Fix all references to koha.org <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9f688ad
20:10 chris_n   wizzyrea++ # nice work
19:58 chris     wizzyrea++
19:58 chris     well done you!
19:56 chris     it even works !
19:50 richard   cool stuff
19:50 chris     :)
19:50 wizzyrea_ woot: http://koha-community.org/documentation/ (yay, pdf!)
19:42 cait      good night all
19:34 richard   hi chris
19:32 chris     back
19:01 chris     Ok my stop bbiab
18:58 cait      :)
18:58 cait      I like that
18:58 chris     Kaizen
18:58 chris     One thing at a time
18:58 chris     And changing to TT we'd def have to retranslate
18:58 cait      hm right
18:58 cait      a lot of things to retranslate
18:57 chris     If we start moving stuff all round
18:57 chris     its also why I don't want to redesign the templates for 3.4
18:56 cait      ok
18:55 chris     Yep, that's why I said so we don't have to
18:55 cait      that would take weeks
18:55 cait      RETRANSLATE?!
18:54 chris     The trick is to do it so we don't have to retranslate
18:54 chris     As part of the change to TT
18:54 cait      cool :)
18:54 chris     But the translation tool is gonna be rewritten by the student who starts today
18:53 wizzyrea_ sed++
18:53 chris     Yep sed will fix them all in one hit
18:53 cait      yeah, but perhaps we can fix and upload them or fredericd can fix them in bulk
18:52 chris     Well I'm no longer translation dude :) I'm hoping to turn off my pootle when fredericd is ready to go
18:51 cait      chris: tell me if I can fix them - but would prefer something not involving pootle ;)
18:50 chris     Hi paul_p
18:49 chris_n   cait: sounds great, tnx
18:48 chris     Translations in general
18:48 chris     I must chat to fredericd about that
18:47 chris     Ah yeah
18:47 cait      but there are a lot of references in the po files
18:47 chris     They looked fine
18:47 cait      there are only a few references left now
18:46 cait      chris: no hurry, hope they are ok
18:46 cait      chris_n: started configuration to test it, but not sure it will work on my laptop, perhaps at work tomorrow
18:46 chris     Hi chris_n
18:46 chris     cait: will push your other patches today, most likely
18:45 munin     chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 13.1�C (1:59 PM EST on November 07, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 15%. Dew Point: -13.0�C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1012.8 hPa (Steady).
18:45 chris_n   @wunder 28334
18:42 chris     Heya cait
18:41 cait      morning chris
18:40 chris     Morning
17:53 munin     cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 5.0�C (7:00 PM CET on November 07, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Pressure: 29.61 in 1003 hPa (Rising).
17:53 cait      @wunder Konstanz
17:53 cait      getting chilly out there
17:53 * cait    is happy to be home
17:50 cait      hi liz :)
17:50 wizzyrea_ hey cait
17:50 cait      hi #koha
10:34 cait      we have rain here today
10:33 magnus    yup ;-)
10:22 cait      not the snow, but that it waited until you were home
10:22 cait      ah good
10:12 munin     magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -1.0�C (11:20 AM CET on November 07, 2010). Conditions: Light Snow Showers. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -2.0�C. Windchill: -4.0�C. Pressure: 29.27 in 991 hPa (Steady).
10:12 magnus    @wunder bodo, norway
10:11 magnus    bod� is snowing! airport is closed - i got home just in time...
10:11 magnus    hi cait
10:09 wasabi    heyas, just sorting out my irc-proxies...
10:09 cait      how is bode?
10:09 cait      hi magnus
09:47 magnus    aloha wasabi!
08:53 wasabi    heya	 cait
08:31 cait      http://www.koha.org/wiki/?page=KohaInstaller < can't find it :(
08:11 cait      hi mason :)
06:58 cait      what is your presentation about?
06:47 robin     didn't get to work on my presentation after that :/ might have to do that tomorrow evening.
06:44 chris     ahh true
06:44 robin     cait: oh yeah. That :)
06:44 robin     hmm, I don't know if that would work: it hooks into Koha so that it can read the database to work out things like field name to MARC field mappings.
06:44 * cait    hides
06:44 cait      now you can work on making all messages go through the message_queue
06:43 cait      :)
06:43 chris     i wonder if its almost to the point its worth thinking about cpanning it
06:42 robin     Just about, yeah. The latest round of changes have required some refectoring that would make that a bit easier, too.
06:41 chris     heh, reckon time to make it a module?
06:40 robin     of the densest perl I think I've every written.
06:40 robin     and my little "turn a CSV into marc records" script has mutated into a 1,228-line monster :)
06:39 chris     yay!
06:38 robin     awesome, think I'm all done here, and the client can spend the week looking over it.
06:38 chris     so safe to push
06:38 chris     well, there was nothing that broke the tests, or broke the sql
06:38 chris     :)
06:37 cait      chris: that was fast :) hope I made no spelling errors
06:35 munin     New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5370: Fix references to koha.org and other old websites <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=35cf30ef15943240e823b7cdfc0d233727a4011d>
06:24 cait      and as you are here.... there are a lot of references to koha.org in the xslt files to a not existing url - not sure what to do with that
06:24 robin     alternately, I maybe should have put an index on that temp table.
06:23 chris     ta
06:23 cait      hm done
06:23 robin     of course, now I know that it would have been faster to delete everything and re-import, even accounting for the working-it-out time.
06:23 chris     because its a ton easier for me to apply
06:23 chris     yes, lots better
06:21 cait      chris: and sending a manual pull request mail is better than sending it as an attachment? :)
06:20 cait      robin: ust a warning :) because I ended up with itemnumber = null a lot of times and had to delete them to clean the accounts
06:20 chris     that'll work just fine
06:19 chris     branch 5370_koha.org
06:19 chris     git://github.com/kfischer/Koha.git
06:19 robin     cait: that's OK, this is a database for migration testing, but currently I have two different sources in it.
06:19 chris     put
06:19 chris     then in the body
06:19 chris     just send an email, saying Pull Request
06:19 cait      issues and old_issues will not get deleted
06:18 robin     create temporary table to_delete as select biblio.biblionumber from biblio join items on biblio.biblionumber=items.biblionumber where ccode='Actinidia';
06:18 robin     there we go:
06:18 cait      but you have cute children, could be worse :)
06:18 robin     chris: was just about to say that :)
06:18 cait      ah,make sure you have not checked out something
06:18 chris     no, i have children
06:17 cait      chris: you ok?
06:17 robin     no, delete the items too, but that'll happen automatically
06:17 cait      we did that in horizon sometimes, so that the result of the query were delete statements for every number we needed, because some things allowed only deleting of one line at a time
06:16 cait      you could get the biblio numbers first and build a sql statement with that
06:16 cait      and keep the items?
06:15 robin     yeah, I'm trying to delete some stuff I just imported, and they all have a unique ccode in the items table, but I want to delete the biblios.
06:14 chris     try this cait
06:13 cait      is it a one time thing?
06:13 cait      I have no data in my database to try it
06:12 robin     can't do that either. May need a temp table.
06:12 robin     maybe I need to make it into a select and apply that to the delete
06:11 robin     so maybe you can't, which would be a pain.
06:11 robin     it doesn't like the syntax of the join.
06:10 * cait    wonders if you can make a join in a delete - never tried that
06:09 cait      and github is github
06:09 robin     chris: while you're here, any idea why: delete from biblio join items on biblio.biblionumber=items.biblionumber where ccode='Actinidia'; doesn't work? The equivalent select seems to.
06:09 cait      yes
06:09 chris     git.koha-community is your origin eh?
06:08 cait      a lot of aahs :)
06:08 cait      hm?
06:07 chris     2 secs
06:07 chris     ahh
06:05 cait      chris: ok, I have a branch now in my public repo (https://github.com/kfischer/Koha/commits/5370_koha.org) how do I make the pull request?
06:04 robin     ah right
06:03 chris     yeah
06:02 cait      and the statements are all in one line
06:02 cait      I think the problem is caused by the sql files - I fixed the example news links
06:01 cait      ok, I can try to do that, have to look at my notes first
06:01 cait      chris... urgs :)
06:01 cait      warning: no patches were sent
06:01 cait      fatal: 0001-Bug-5370-Fix-references-to-koha.org-and-other-old-we.patch: 25: patch contains a line longer than 998 characters
06:00 chris     :)
06:00 chris     which you can do, now you have a public repo :0
06:00 chris     for patches like that, i send a pull request
06:00 chris     it doesnt like lines that are too long
06:00 cait      I will use the web client
05:59 robin     you can attach the patch file to an email, but I'm curious to see why git-email is unhappy.
05:58 robin     cait: what is it complaining about?
05:57 cait      I have fixed the references to koha.org in various files
05:56 cait      is there a way I can send a patch file with git-email as attachment? or make it stop about a too long line another way?
05:56 cait      yeah, that would be really cool
05:53 chris     i still need to get brian's friend to do the klingon Opac
05:51 robin     that might be true, although I'm not aware of a Latin translation, let alone the little-known sibling language, "Latim."
05:50 cait      you never know, koha is translated to a lot of languages I never heard of before
05:49 cait      heh
05:46 robin     yes, I can see that being wrong.
05:46 robin     heh: "Unknown language: Latim"
05:46 robin     ta, almost done
05:44 cait      good luck :)
05:36 robin     I'm trying to make some stuff work before it's monday.
05:36 robin     yep
05:35 cait      it's still sunday for you, right?
05:35 cait      hi robin :)
05:32 robin     hi
05:31 cait      hi #koha
05:08 bigbrovar Thanks very much ..
05:07 robin     I also need to clarify that, as it's the case that if you provide a default .sql for the database, then the scripts can use that, but if you don't, then it'll run through the web installer.
05:07 robin     in your case, that's correct.
05:06 bigbrovar robin:  one more thing (I am really trying to do it right :) ) according to the wiki the koha-create script "create a new koha catalogue called 'mylibrary', create and populate the database for it, set up zebra, and configure Apache appropriately"  I hope the installer webpage does same in other words there is are no advantage to using the script over the installer webpage?
05:04 bigbrovar thanks
05:03 robin     if you're on the installer webpage, you don't need to use koha-create.
05:02 bigbrovar robin:  Iam done setting up koha (or I should think) following the readme in /usr/share/doc/koha/README.Debian and  am now on the koha installer webpage.  I just need some clearification concerning this part of the wiki  which talks about using the koha-create script. should I do that before completing the installtion from localhost:8080 ?
04:37 bigbrovar ok
04:37 robin     bigbrovar: if you do, that would be great :) anything that seems like a bug, feel free to make a ticket on it too. Anything filed under the 'packaging' section goes to me.
04:36 bigbrovar It would be easier to see this through and see where it leads documenting and improving the wiki all the way. than go and start from stratch
04:36 wizzyrea_ robin: that's so super great
04:36 bigbrovar well I am already kneel deep into this one already
04:36 robin     I very nearly have it so installing the koha package has a koha instance just spring up and everything works, but after the hackfest we ended up so busy catching up that I haven't had time to finish that work.
04:35 bigbrovar hmmm
04:35 wizzyrea_ i can'tfreakingwait until the packages are matured to where it's really sudo apt-get install koha
04:35 robin     that's a good point.
04:34 wizzyrea_ well, not easier, but at least familiar
04:34 wizzyrea_ bigbrovar: the packages are very new, it may be easier for you to install the "old" way
04:34 robin     So it's only been relatively recently that I've been testing the packages without those addons in order to get them more useful for people at large.
04:33 robin     I'm not sure, I focus on the packages as that's what we run here, but we have a handful of custom addons that glue it all together.
04:33 bigbrovar will sure update the wiki when am done
04:32 bigbrovar I am just thinking of migrating us to 3.2
04:32 bigbrovar would it be easier to just install koha from source? that was what I did when I installed the current koha 3.0 which is running pretty well
04:31 robin     anything else you find, be sure to update the wiki with. The packages still need a lot of polish that I hope to find some time for in the near future.
04:30 robin     yep
04:29 bigbrovar robin: so I would create a /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf  file and populate it with the info you posted?
04:27 robin     ^-- bigbrovar
04:27 robin     http://pastebin.com/zaYHSebx
04:26 bigbrovar Thanks :)
04:26 robin     I'll send you an example
04:25 robin     bigbrovar: yeah, that's something I was trying to fix in hackfest weekend, but didn't get enough time for :/
04:24 bigbrovar Hi guys I am trying to setup koha 3.2 on debian following this wiki http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian#Quick_Start .  am told to edit /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf which does not exist.
03:58 munin     wizzyrea_: The operation succeeded.
03:58 wizzyrea_ @later tell nengard http://www.koha-community.org/wp-content/uploads/kohadocs/en/koha3-2manual.pdf
02:32 wizzyrea_ hiyas
02:32 Brooke    ahoy hoy
02:11 Brooke    stupid colloquy didn't bounce on meh
01:31 brendan_l I'd be surprised to see a Freeze warning here ;)
01:31 munin     brendan_l: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 16.3�C (6:44 PM PDT on November 06, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017.2 hPa (Steady).
01:31 brendan_l @wunder 93117
01:17 munin     chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 3.1�C (9:29 PM EDT on November 06, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 0.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1012.8 hPa (Rising).  Freeze warning in effect from 2 am to 8 am EST Sunday... 
01:17 chris_n   @wunder 28334
00:12 Brooke    yo